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I mean Trump has been in over 150 federal lawsuits and is currently being sued by the state of NY for defrauding over 5000 people. All politicians are scums, get over it

>>691145439

DONT IGNORE ME YOU RANCID SWINE

>>691145815

No source = gtfo

>>691146147
What do you mean?

http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/trump-university-lawsuit-will-go-trial-ny-judge-rules-n562816

http://lawnewz.com/high-profile/we-investigated-donald-trump-is-named-in-at-least-169-federal-lawsuits/

this merica doesnt matter who the people want we get what the rich and politicians want plan and simple. noone likes or wants that cunt but bet your ass shes next.

>>691145439
It's either this birch or trump, and fuck that shit

>>691145439
gotta be honest. I've never even met anyone who wants to vote for her. I was a big Bernie supporter myself and unless she chooses someone like Bernie (or Bernie himself) as a VP, I still will not vote for her. But i'm not going to vote for Trump either. I think we all need to find a good third party candidate and all vote for that person.

atleast Trump is open about being a walking piece of shit.

Hilary is a fucking liar and a cunt and no more qualified then Trump just because her Husband was president.

same exact thinking gave Canada Justin Trudeau

Just because your daddy did a good job back in the day in no way reflects on your ability to do the job.

fucking corrupt bullshit.

>>691148178
>knowing youre a piece of shit somehow makes it better

>>691148333

doesn't it?

why pretend your nothing but scum?

>>691145439
No
I dont think her voters wear a uniform

>>691145439

Because they believe in the platform of the Democratic Party, and think that promoting that platform is more important than the personal characteristics of the President.

Also, because the appointment of the next Supreme Court justice (and probably at least one more) will have a far greater impact on the trajectory of this country than the election fo the president.

If you don't agree with the Dems' policies, that's one thing. If you do, voting for Hillary is the most rational choice.

>>691145439
Because she's not Trump.
And because she has a vagina.

>>691145439
First a nigger, and now possibly a woman
The US has really gone to shit

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>>691145439
that's like saying how could anyone vote for lady gaga over a lobotomized rhino. maybe lady gaga isn't the best person to be in charge, but i don't want a fucking orange rhino dictating the future of the united states and the world

>>691145815
> over 150 federal lawsuits
it's business as usual when lazy socialists are about. They always want something for nothing.

>hoping you'll not litigate and just pay out

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>>691148728
Pretty sure they do

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>>691149433
this.

>>691145439
Her voters are very informed, but more importantly they know the difference between actual info and right-wing fiction.

>>691149433
Jordanians dont get a vote.
Plus that poor dude is dead.

>>691145439

America is overdue for a woman president.

She is a women.

The choice is simple.

>>691145439
I'd only vote for her if my only other choice was Donald Trump.

Because shes bought by the saudis and the Democrats are generally dumb as dog shit

Id rather trump clinton ccares only for herself shes already owned by our new saudi muslim masters she has done nothing but shady shit in her career she doesnt deserve to be president

>>691149986
Democrats are much smarter then republicans that is a statistical fact.

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>>691145439
It's also the "it's time for..." effect
Like "it's current-year, it's time for [something different]"
It gives people all warm and fuzzy feelings inside because they're being soo inclusive and progressive, without actually doing anything. Through simply having an opinion people can feel like they have impact on the world.
I guess this election it's "It's time for a female president". Unfortunately they don't see or ignore the clear signs of someone slowly going crazy in their lust for power.

Pic related, it's the modern era 'it's time for' a model with vitiligo.
Half of all people are dumber than average.

>>691150272
Hmm sounds like something a democrat would say

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>>691145439
I am not american, not a voter, and not up to speed on this shit, OP, what happened?

>>691150272
So your fine with her being owed by muslims? Your ok shes under fbi investigation?? Your ok she could.give a fuck about the people she got killed?

>>691150272
this Holier-Than-Thou attitude of the left is the sole reason I don't associate myself with them

>>691150408
Ive know some really stupid college graduates. I went to college doesnt mean shit id rather be street smart and know how to connext with people. Besides college degrees arent what they used to be

Why do you keep asking if her supporters wear uniforms??

>>691149786
>America is overdue for a woman president

Because choosing a president based upon physical attributes is a good idea.

>>691150375
100% of right wingers place themselves im the top 1 percentile of intelligence but really they are confirmed dumb

vote trump.

>>691150764
Im not a gun person at all dont own or plan on owning one but when the dems get their way and start taking away peoples right to bear arms its gonna start a big problem

>>691150858
Vote trump 2016

>>691150777
Exactly. Women are equal to men, but only women should get stuff for having a specific set of genitalia. Modern feminism.

>>691150408
This says all the communist professors are working hard to indoctrinate their students - and it seems to be showing.

Communism is so great that colleges and universities across the US manage to weave it into almost all curriculum

>>691149701
If hillaries voters were informed they wouldnt be voting for her. Fuck i took the bait.

>>691149423

how can anyone be this delusional?

seriously do you try to be a fucking idiot or is it just natural for you?

what the fuck is wrong with you you fucking subhuman shitstain?

>>691151071

holy shit are you delusional or what.

post literally ANY evidence of ANY of the fucking moronic shit you think. i won't wait, because i fucking know that you can't, because there is no evidence, because you're a fucking dipshit who's scared of a fucking boogeyman.

>>691150408
The stupid person will say "oh, liberalism is a sign of higher education". Whereas we know that colleges are socialist/communist turn out stations.

Later in life, most grow up and grow out of stupid baseless ideologies - when they find out that all people are not equal- and do not deserve equal distribution of the good.

>>691145439
Yea they wear uniforms.

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>>691150768
>>691151071

It is exactly this sort of anti-intellectualism that is destroying the United States.

>>691151550
This is what you get when you talk to a liberal. Thank you for making my point.

I love this election because it's really going to show which ASPD is more powerful

malignant narcissist or sociopath

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>>691145439
Because people are stupid and easily influenced by based media reports

>>691148821
like hillary will stick to the platform at all and not just sell out to the highest bidder

>>691150949
agreed. it's a temporary solution to a permanent problem.

the point of the amendment is to make sure people can protect FROM THE GOVERNMENT. Handing over control of firearms to the government to protect yourself from the government is retarded.

people that lived when the amendment was written were aware of the fact that power breeds corruption no matter what. You can take an absolute gentlemen, christ follower, role model citizen, put them in power, and over time it will infect them. Thats why the system they set up has all sorts of "checks and balances" to make sure nobody goes apeshit with lawmaking.

Like Obama, he seems like a nice guy to be around or have a convo with, at least how he is portrayed in media (propaganda), but with the amount of times the checks and balances have had to deny Obama from making vaguely worded, reactionary laws, it proves the logic behind the second amendment

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>>691151654
You don't show any evidence to prove socialism or progressivism (which anyone pushing it are both linked to communism), has any link to a better happier society.

We have hoards of examples of failed societies that are not democracies.

When you insult the person that disagrees with you, you're using one of the lowest forms of argument by the way. It shows your lack of education or simple knowledge.

You're not capable of forming an argument that attacks the idea you're opposed to.

>>691146831

>trump university lol

You mean that program that people signed up for and then fucked up on their own and are looking for someone to blame? That one?

>lawnewz.com

For that sorry man. I am not going to even bother reading a link that ends their site name with a "z" haha. gtfo

Literally still waiting for an explanation of the transcripts. Will it come?

Outlook is bleak.

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Ignorance is strength

>>691150768
You know someone who doesnt fit the statistic therefore its all wrong and therefore you can only trust yourself and what you see with your eyes and therefore can believe the things happening in your little world. Its called being small minded.

>>691145439
Oh it's easy. I'm not gonna vote for her
BECAUSE I DONT LIVE IN THE USA
NOT THAT'S ___REAL___ FREEDOM

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>>691145439
Are you still around OP? If so I'm happy to give an honest answer to your question.

>Voted for HRC in the primaries
>Will vote for her again in the general

I need the webm of the jewish guy standing up after Hillary Speech, please.

>>691152453

Yes I'm still around.

>If so I'm happy to give an honest answer to your question.
>Doesn't give an answer...

(You)

>>691152453
cuck traitor

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>>691151380
>>691149423

>>691148821
>>691149254
You people are both retards. If hillary gets elected instead of arrested, then the rule of law means fuck all in America.

>>691152285
go suck Trumps dick some more fag

>>691149701
Refute her criminality or fuck off and sit on a chainsaw.

Even the worst conservative is better than the democrats offerings. Democrats now are in fear of losing their entitlements, so "anything to stop the trump"..

They attack trump people because they fear their entitlements for doing nothing are at risk - so they attempt killing him, and hurting trump supporters.

Yes, if you're a lazy socialist or a mexicant, or a Jihadist, we'd like you to be afraid, but chances are mostly things will stay the same.

But, it is not suprising the way the liberals are acting.

Attacking people for their beliefs is a sign of stupidity.

If conservatives are so stupid, why don't you see them attacking liberals, or Hillary fans?

>>691145439
Both Trump and Hilary are cancer, but at least Trump can make America a little less politically correct.
And it's about damn time.

>>691147983

A vote not cast for trump is a vote cast for hillary.

As a berner myself im biting the bullet and giving a giant middle finger to the DNC and voting for trump.

>>691145439
you have 3 main voters in this election
1- women who dont care cause 'lulz its a vagina in the white house OMG!'
2- better then trump
3-better then hillary

>>691153148
>a little less politically correct.

Political correctness has been physically endangering people. Americans are so afraid that offending shitty people is worse than people actually dying.

>>691153208
I'm in a similar boat. If hillary wasn't running, I'd vote libertarian

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>>691152795
Not an argument of any kind yo

>>691152730
Because her political beliefs are much closer to mine than Trump's. She believes climate change is a very serious problem for instance; Trump has said it's a fiction invented by the Chinese and has promised to withdraw from the Paris climate deal. She's pro abortion and pro gay marriage. Trump is against both.

She's promised, at least in private, to nominate someone more liberal than Garland to SCOTUS. He's promised to appoint a conservative. Etc., etc. I could go on.

>But what about her character issues?

Below is a good piece by a journalist who's covered HRC for years. The journalist correctly criticizes HRC for being too secretive, for having inflated expectations of privacy given her status as a public figure. This has led to a perception that she's corrupt. Why won't she release her speech transcripts? She really should imho, but she doesn't because past candidates haven't been made to do things like that, and she thinks it's unfair to be held to a different standard.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/mar/28/hillary-clinton-honest-transparency-jill-abramson

WE MUST NOT OFFEND THE MUSLIMS, BECAUSE THEY'RE ALL TEETERING ON THE EDGE OF JIHAD!

>>691153148
he will literally wreck 200 years of foreign diplomatic progress and peace, and cause internal rioting and destabilize if not dismantle the entire federation, breaking apart the republic. It will happen, and that's only the good parts..

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>>691145439
They fear the power of the Trumpster... Hill-Dawg is the cuckolds' choice

>>691153533
These days, guns have been endangering far more people than PC culture. Just sayin', 10k people don't die each year in this country on account of people being too politically correct.

>>691153630

ok but what about the transcripts?

i really dont like the socialist leanings of the democratic party, and find most of their ideas and base idiotic. Im more libertarian I guess.
That said, hillary is supposed to be pro union, and my family wouldnt be anywhere near where it is today without unions.

>>691153208
Also, if this is true, you're a dolt. If you were voting Stein I could understand. But Trump? The guy who's announced plans to massively cut taxes for the wealthy? The climate change denier? The man who wants to appoint a conservative to replace Scalia, when we haven't had a chance at a liberal-majority Court in 30 years? You're gonna vote for him because you're just THAT petulant your preferred candidate didn't win the Dem primaries?

>>691153697

Hillary confirmed this in her last speech about Orlando. So, lets not have an intelligent conversation about Islam, lets attack the NRA, the GOP, and guns.

Because Omar Mateen was a registered democrat progressive gay muslim

>>691148821
So you're a cultural marxist that uses progressive social agendas to achieve your sociopathic goals? Scum.

>>691145439
>Are all of her voters uniformed?
They are uninformed, gullible, weak minded, brainwashed, and/or dumbed down. But if you ask me, there's no "or" about it. All of the above sounds right.

I'm with her because I think rash decisions out of vanity are worse than the cool calculated decisions of someone without emotion

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>>691150272
>smarter

Trump pays himself out of his campaign contributions, and is paying his companies from his election funds.

Because he's fucking broke.

He won't release his tax statements because he's fucking broke.

He's taking GOP money because he's fucking broke.

He's running for president because he's fucking broke.

He can't have daddy bail him out again, because he's fucking broke.

Do you know how many of Trump's businesses fail? ALL OF THEM.

It's a running joke in Chicago, Atlantic City, and New York - he puts his name on buildings so the banks know which ones to reposess.

>>691154010
>he guy who's announced plans to massively cut taxes for the wealthy

The ultra wealthy foot 70% of the US tax bill. Do you feel like it needs to be increased? Do you feel they need more regulation? Do you feel like they don't pay enough?

>>691145439
>are all her voters uninformed?

literally answered your own question.

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>>691145439
Waaah, I'm a Trump fag, and I'm gonna yell and scream like a little bitch until someone pays attention to me.

>>691153842
I tried to explain that. She has an unfortunate tendency toward secrecy. She doesn't think she should have to release the transcripts, because past presidential candidates haven't had to do things like that. Speech transcripts have never been treated like tax returns (which she, unlike Trump, has actually turned over).

It's a political mistake because it feeds questions about what she actually said that are probably unfounded. I don't think HRC is so stupid as to make inflammatory statements in speeches where she was gonna get paid one way or the other. No benefit to her whatsoever. She should release the transcripts, but if you see things from her perspective (not wanting to be held to a higher standard) you can kind of understand the stubbornness.

>>691153939
also, stein is not good

>is it too late for kasich or rubio?

>>691145439

The DNC is rigged, no one is even voting for her. Democrats are corrupt as fuck.

>>691148821
If you value to principles of the Democratic Party, then voting for Hilary is the worst thing that you can do. The Democrat leadership has long ago abandoned the ideals upon which it was founded (but so has the Republican establishment). If one truly valued the core ideals of the Democratic Party, then Bernie was the way to go. Unfortunately, the fix was in with the DNC from day 1 and he never really had a chance. Ironically, if you are a Bernie supporter, your best bet would be to vote Trump. He is the only candidate left in the running that is an anti-establishment candidate. If you can't make that step, then vote for Stein or Johnson. If the Greens or Libertarians can reach the 5% threshold, then they will become eligible for the same federal funding that the Dems/Reps get and can finally begin to compete at the same level and start moving us away from the 2 party nightmare that we have today.

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>>691154246

>implying applying for bankruptcy means your business instantly fails

Learn to economics, you piece of shit. Hilary is going to fuck your country up.

>>691154309
If those are the beliefs you hold, I won't debate you. You were a dolt to support Bernie Sanders in the primaries, however. (Or maybe you're just a random guy responding to a post directed at someone else...Sad!)

when the other major option is Trump its easy to vote for her

>>691150408
So this proves that brainwashing is effective, but not 100% effective? kek

>>691154380

Yeah, at least you know the Republican party is legit. You know you're primary vote is counting when you have someone like Trump nominated.

>>691154010

In what dream land do you live in where a 3rd party has a shot in hell at winning?

The next leader of this country will be either trump or hillary.

And since the DNC fucked over sanders hardcore the people need to stand up and fuck the DNC in the asshole.

And a liberal court means fuck all. The court should not vote party line but vote on how the constitution reads

>>691152285
It's an unfortunate domain name choice, but the guy is legit

>>691154246

everyone depends on donations. he spent enough of his own and he needs the contributions. EVERYONE DOES IT RETARD

>>691153768
>These days, guns have been endangering far more people than PC culture.

This is the fastest way to remove personal accountability.- say that the guns endanger people.

PC culture protects the gang violence in Chicago, by renaming it "gun violence". Yes, PC culture kills people.

We cannot say that black people are responsible for over 50% of murder in the US, because of PC culture. We cannot name the problem.

As long as we cannot name the problem we can never address it.

PC culture:
We'll continually point our fingers in other directions. If we ignore the problem, and be nice to it, maybe it will stop?

Perhaps a more stupid question is how the fuck Americans got themselves to the point where people like Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton are running against each other. Both are insanely stupid, stupidly insane, and completely corrupt in their own fucked-up ways.

Now personally, under duress (IE, if somebody put a fucking gun to my head) and told me to pick one or the other, I would probably chose Trump, simply because the worst thing he's done so far is offend people. But make no mistake, they're both ass-barrels.

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>>691154430
If you care to even glance at the actual ISSUE POSITIONS that Clinton and Trump stand for, it would not take long to realize that she's much closer to Sanders than Trump.

Also, the fix was never in for Sanders.

http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/pollster/2016-national-democratic-primary

As this average of national polls for Clinton vs Sanders shows, Clinton had a lead over Sanders among Democratic voters at large from beginning to end. It fluctuated, but it was always present. Stop being a sore loser kind anon.

>>691145439

Not sure if youve noticed, but all voters seem terribly misinformed about their favourite runner.

Its total bias. You like what you see so you ignore what you don't like.

Truth is this time around good choices are thin. Almost all the candidates are pretty fucked up.

Except Bernie. Except I dont live in your country we consider him left centrist, and since your system really does lack a left wing, therefore Im bias towards him. See what I did there?

>>691154459
I asked you some questions, and you give me insults. You simply do not understand how progressive the US tax system is well enough to debate someone on it.

You're not really good at this intelligent discussion game.

>>691148178
Besides the fact that shes been secretary of state and in the whitehouse staff for quite some time. I agree though, Clinton signed off on Iraq, Libya, Syria. If she gets in there is a risk of heightened aggression in the M.E or an outright invasion of Iran.

>>691154555
Excuse me? Sanders ranted and railed against the Citizens United decision, a 5-4 opinion in which all Republican appointees were in the majority. And you probably nodded your head as said ranting and railing occurred.

Also, system=not rigged. Y'all just lost

http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/pollster/2016-national-democratic-primary

>>691153768

I beg to differ. The mindset that follows political correctness is the same mindset that encourages people to sit and wait for someone else to do something about that guy with the gun, instead of allowing people to take their personal safety into their own hands.

You want tons of people to die? Teach them to wait for the police instead of stopping the murderer themselves.

While some may die in the process, far less would if people were willing to defend themselves instead of wait for someone else to defend them instead.

>>691154710
Actually, our country incarcerates massive numbers of black and Latino youths. If our PC culture impeded us from tackling gang violence or whatnot, that wouldn't be the case.

>>691145439

I will vote for her because

>moderate/center left
>hawkish (good)
>can be diplomatic if it's really necessary (Iran Deal with Kerry+Barry)
>knows how to play the game, powerful
>she's not Bernie "muh evil Wall Street" Sanders
>she's not Donald "literally zero political experience" Trump

>>691154958
You're right. Don't leave the thread though--let me bask in your superior intelligence for just a moment longer.

Now, I don't like Hillary.
But I know she is not that level of incompetent at business.
I know she isn't the biggest blowhard idiot who just says whatever whenever and makes promises nobody takes seriously, because at least she tries to make things happen.
I don't LIKE Clinton.
See, this is the thing. I dont like her. I dont like her values, and I dont like that her entire strategy from the start has been "dont suck as badly as someone else."
That doesn't mean Clinton is the worst choice this election for president. It means that I don't like her.
But if it came down to voting for a dead man or Trump, I'd pick the dead man. Because the dead man is less likely to fuck up everything in five minutes.
Trump can't be trusted to make money on a fucking CASINO, where all you have to do to make money is keep doors open, serve drinks, and not fuck up.
He couldn't make money on a fucking beauty pageant he OWNED.
He can't make money on his own buildings because he's too stupid to realize how to finance them.

Clinton may be a raging bitch, but Trump is a dumbass motherfucker.

Put it this way: I prayed Bush II would get shot in the head every day of his presidency with Cheney right behind him in the line of fire for the ballistic sloppy seconds.

I would vote for Cheney over Trump.
Hell, I would FUNDRAISE for Bush II over Trump.

He is that fucking bad.

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>>691154430
>muh ideological purity
Tea Party of the left, everyone.

>>691145439
>being this asleep this late in the game
People like you are why the Illuminati is winning

>>691145439
It's because we all she's going to lose.

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>>691145439
It's just you are too innocent, boy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k8vVEbCquMw [Embed]
vid related

>>691154309
Yes.
Because your numbers are faked.

>>691145439

Because. They like. Her policies. More than. The other. Candidates. Who. They have. To choose. From. You autist.

>>691155132
I'll be dropping by /b/ and /pol/ on election night to bask in all the tears when she wins.

>>691154951
>Not sure if youve noticed, but all voters seem terribly misinformed about their favourite runner.


All I can do is go their websites (like I do) and see what issues they feel are important to show their potential constituents. Additionally, we can look at Hillary's sorted past and learn a lot about her.

She's said an done some pretty fucked up things, and capitalized on all of it - or at least was above the law for all of it. I can't figure out how she didn't fade from existence already, accept that we can know the power of stupid people in large numbers.
Example: See islam.

>>691154951
bernie is super far left and i am very sorry that your country has gotten to the point where he seems moderate. unfortunately america is now headed left, too.

Trump opposes net neutrality. Hillary is a shell. They are both literally garbage who will do nothing but make the country worse.

>>691155379
This.
Pretty damn simple if you stop crying about it. Im not a fan of hillary either but this anon just gave you the basic primer of how the system works.

>>691154430
Bullshit.
Trump stands for everything that Sanders would fight a LIFETIME to end.

I support Sanders, and fuck you, I'm not that stupid.

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>>691155385
now you're talking

>>691155100

But because you can't actually put your finger on the root of the issue, it will always be ignored and left to fester.

Treating symptoms does not equal treating the disease, Anon. PC culture only aims to keep a blind eye turned to anything that could be found offensive to minorities, when they are in fact causing the biggest problems.

>>691145439
What is really going to rustle your jimmies is that she beat Obama in the primary in 2008 by several hundred thousand votes...the only reason she is running is to teach your country a lesson lol

>>691145439
The ultimatum argument their supporters are using now is that she and Trump are the same, so why not vote for a woman. To that I laugh, and also it is a great commentary on Hillary herself that the media she buys out and the robots she hires can't even DEFEND her, only pull attention away from her. That is how OBSCENELY corrupt that woman is, she is a true laughing stock that is only taken seriously because the media wants her to be.

Regardless, if they truly were both the same, why would you not vote for the man who will guaranteed have you pay less in taxes, instead of the woman that would have you keep paying as much as you do?

>>691154457
>not realizing that I'm not talking about 1 company, I'm talking about literally DOZENS he ran
You fucking shitheap.

>>691155614
False.

>>691145439


OP, Clinton has no legal obligation to release private speech transcripts and you know it.

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>>691154958
>believes taxes are too high on the wealthy
>a Bernie Sanders supporter

you deserve every insult that comes your way

>>691155100
>our country incarcerates massive numbers of black and Latino youths

This statement fails to address why there is so much black and latino crime. It again looks at a result, and assumes the wrong agent of cause.

Your statement assumes the latinos and blacks are innocent, when indeed they're not.

>>691155100
actually, black and latino arrest rates are lower than the report rate, unlike white reports/arrests.

>>691155644
I have never seen any Clinton supporter make that argument. That is what you call a strawman

>>691147983
The fact that Trump is there to fuck it up means most liberals will vote Clinton to stop him.

Deal with it.

>>691155462
This whole "Bernie is a moderate by european standards" meme pisses me off because it's so obviously made up by delusional young americans.

Bernie aligns 100% with the Left parties of Germany and France. They have the same stump speeches, policy proposals, etc.

In no way would he be considered "moderate" in my country

>>691152285
>LOL he posted sources but i didnt read them

>>691145439
god ur a brain dead fucking nigger. Jesus fucking Christ end it all. People are voting for Hillary because they hate trump. what is so hard to understand?

>>691155223
Stay as long as you want - but keep your mouth shut. It leaks diarrhea sometimes.

>>691155592
Most minorities find mass incarceration pretty offensive, and the death penalty too. If we had a truly PC culture we'd stop doing them on that account. We don't

>>691155849
Yeah but what Sanders is proposing is moderate and many cases already established in your country. Stop being a faggot.

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>>691155518
Hillary is that you?

>>691145439
People are voting for her because they give more of a fuck about "equal rights" and "equality" and the first female President than they do actual issues at hand.

If she becomes president, we're fucking doomed. At least with trump we have a chance at kicking shit back where it came from

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>>691155518
pretty much this

>>691155932
triggered this hard

>>691155644
>The ultimatum argument their supporters are using now is that she and Trump are the same, so why not vote for a woman.

lol wut never heard that one before

>That is how OBSCENELY corrupt that woman is

muh evul corporations will destroy america :(

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>>691152928
Did it ever NOT mean that?

Laws don't matter to the people who make 'em up, silly billies.

>>691155722

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/democratic_vote_count.html

true

>>691155809
Really? I see it all the time, although I suspect the majority of them are probably pretending to be independent.

>>691155982
ayy lmao

>>691155761
I make no such assumption. Just pushing back against the idea that our system is so riddled with PC mentality that it bends over for minorities. I think mass incarceration of minorities is strong evidence that that isn't true (whether or not said incarceration is a good thing is a separate question I did NOT opine on)

She a women oP you fucknig misognyst

>>691155373
>Because your numbers are faked.

Just because you simply don't look at the actual numbers or research "US progressive tax system" doesn't mean you have an intelligent dog in the fight.

It means you think you have something to say, when you simply don't. Do your research first, then talk about it. Most people do this, instead of coming across as a complete imbecile.

>>691156024
The funny thing is /pol/ tards can't even find ONE example of Clinton's supposed "corruption."

>>691153208
I dont understand this logic.

>If I can't vote for a super liberal democratic socialist
>I'll switch sides to vote for a racist bigot who's the EXACT opposite
>that'll show em lol

This is politics, not reality TV. Electing a retard into office out of spite is probably the most childish way a nation could handle an election.

>>691155988
>actual issues at hand

https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/265895292191248385?lang=en

I do care about the issues. And this tweet alone should disqualify Trump for the presidency. How do people take him seriously when he expresses views like this?

>>691155957

You're not understanding. They find these things offensive because PC culture allows them to foster the belief that those who are incarcerated really didn't do anything wrong.

Hence, the Dindu Nuffins.

It gives people just enough belief that they are in the right in some way to argue back that they aren't causing problems when they're busy burning down suburbs and stealing shit in what they call "peaceful" protest.

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>>691149268
Lady gaga isn't being investigated by the FBI for mishandling top secret documents in her email scandal dipshit

>>691156318
>https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/265895292191248385?lang=en
>view other replies

lol

>>691145439
Um, look at the alternative. First of all, trump hates women, so there's that. And he hates brown people, so there's that. You can't antagonize that many people and expect them to vote for you.

>>691145439
So, your only criticism is "her whole transcript fiasco." WTF you talkin' about?

>>691156227

NO STFU MY SPORTS TEAM CANDIDATE LOST SO NOW IM ROOTING FOR THE WORLD TO LITERALLY END

LITERALLY

LITERALLY

>>691152285
>summerfag_detected.exe

>>691155981
examples please, how is he moderate?

>>691150529
This

>>691156562
OP's butt festers, itches, flakes

>>691156579

Because it helps make his point, you fucking buff foon.

>>691154774
Give it a day, Hilary will change her mind on some issue if she thinks that she can get an extra vote. Please tell me that you are trolling and not actually buying anything that the HuffPo is spewing? The reason that the fix was in is due to the support and resources thrown to Hilary by the DNC while Bernie was left out in the cold. Not to mention all the dirty tricks such as that debacle in Nevada and such instances as what happened in Detroit, where DNC staffers made the rounds in black communities to spread rumors that Bernie was planning to cut welfare in order to pay for his free college plan. That is why I say that the fix was in. Lastly, you have missed the main reason why people support Bernie. He is a new direction for the future while Hilary is just more of the same, tired old breed of Politico that has been screwing things up for years. Bernie would have been a new direction. Trump/Stein/Johnson may not be the direction that some would have wanted, but at least they aren't just more of the same old recycled crap.

>>691145439
Also, Clinton is a lot more alligned to Bernice's views than trump is. So by default she has the Bernie supporter's votes, save for the retards that are throwing a fit.

>>691156508
Haha

>>691156726
Lol Bernie* not Bernice. Stupid autocorrect

>>691156579
Just pointing out that single payer, regulation of finance and free education are already established policies in European countries, in some cases for scores of decades. They're mainstream concepts. Not radical.

>>691145439
as I have said in every other thread I am voting for Trump not because I support him in any way - I am voting for him because I think we haven't learned our lessons, I thought we were good after the Bush/Cheney fiasco but it looks like we need one more to get people motivated...

>>691156227

You start with Candidates X, Y, and Z.

30% of people like candidate X, 30% like Y, and the remaining 40% like Z.

X's voters dislike Y, and hate Z.
Y's voters dislike X, and hate Z.
Z's voters dislike Y, and hate X.

Over the course of the campaign, Y is removed from the equation, leaving 30% of the voters without a candidate.

Y's voters will now switch allegiance to X, because they only dislike X, while they hate Z.

Get it now?

>>691156726

lol@u

Voting for the candidate that has integrity and isn't being convicted currently by the FBI is the reasonable thing to do. It's not throwing a fit cucktard

>>691156817
Thanks. I thought you were being a huge faggot on purpose.

>>691145439
I'm sure there are plenty of feminists and SJWs who will vote her based solely on the fact that she is a woman. Also, them thinking trump is "literally hitler" helps make them lean that way.

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>>691145439
1-3 Supreme Court seats will be filled by the next president, whomever she will be.

I'd vote for literally any sitting Democrat because of that alone.

>>691154309
I've had this told to me before, and did some research into it. While the wealthy do pay around 70% of the taxes, they also control more than 70% of the wealth. The tax distribution % across classes was pretty consistent, where the % of taxed paid by class was similar to the % of wealth owned by the class.
If more taxes are required it should come from the wealthy, since it will not impact their standard of living at all (they can still buy yachts and fancy cars even if they are taxed 5% more). If you tax the poor and middle class more, they'll end up in living on the streets.

>>691156915
Except Z is Trump, not Clinton.

Sorry faggot.

>>691156947
He hates women. He hates Muslims. He is an alleged rapist. If you think ANY of the candidates have integrity you truly retarded.

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>>691156698
Sanders actually outspent HRC in the primaries. He was hardly left out in the cold in terms or resources.

Don't like the HuffPost? The realclearpolitics average of national polls shows exactly the same thing. Again, these aren't opinion pieces, these are averages of the polls being released, and they show that more Dem voters prefer HRC to Sanders.

And yea, people like Sanders because he proposes a new direction--toward democratic socialism. Trump's new direction, based on his own words and statements, is decidedly a conservative one.

If all you ever wanted was to watch Rome burn, then o.k. Vote Trump. If you care about the issues themselves, Clinton, as a center-left Democrat, is far closer to Sanders than Trump, who's staked out right-wing positions on nearly every major issue.

>>691156947
Except Clinton isn't being convicted by the FBI.

Mad?

>>691156915

what has always boggled the mind about the US system, for example in the Bush v. Gore contest the election turnout was like 50% so Bush was elected with 25% of the electorate...the other 75% get fucked...no wonder why everyone is so pissed

>>691157239
>Clinton, as a center-left Democrat,
Warren is a center-left Democrat

Clinton is center-right like Obama and most of the Dems in Congress

>>691157009
Exactly. We can't have trump responsible for that.

>>691151550
See how you don't put a question mark behind your questions?
You don't want anything to be answered because you've convinced yourself already that you have all the answers. Basic liberal logic.

>>691155981
>nationwide $15 minimum wage
>completely debt free college
>tax the millyuhnaires and billiuhnairs

Find me a member of Germany's or France's Social Democrat / Center parties who propose any of those. protip: you can't

Bernard is left populism, deal with it

>>691157009
The last thing we need is a more liberal supremecourt. They keep overstepping their authority and the balance of power has gone to hell.
The supreme Court is supposed to inerprit laws, yet under Obama, they have been making laws. And speaking of that, Obamaaking laws with executive powers is an abuse of said power.

>>691157308
Because idiots believe their vote doesn't mean anything.

Funny how it means everything when some dipshit like Bush gets in there.

>>691156915
Yeah but it's still spite, in that sense. Voting for someone you hate a little less than someone else just goes to show that you're not focusing on the issues, you're focusing on personal bias. Both candidates are still being investigated for fraud, but switching sides just because you don't like Clinton is just reckless. This is the balance of the future of the nation, not a high school popularity contest. Moreover- the balance of the future of a world superpower, not just some shithole like Sri Lanka or something. What we do matters to everybody, and who we elect is going to fuck over everyone not just us.

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>When you're white, you don't know what it's like to be poor
What did he mean by this?

>>691157460
You're right. No one's proposing that in Europe

Europe already has a higher minimum wage than that, education is easily obtainable debt-free and Europe already has high taxes on the rich.

>>691157224
Hillary covered up her own husbands rapes and attempted to steal White House furniture and was caught.

>>691148821
yep

>>691157224
But his lawyer said it was his own wife so its not rape.

>>691157460
Bullshit. None of Sanders' ideas are radical. Stop carrying water for the rich, faggot.

>>691157779
and you stroked your tiny pee pee typing that didn't you

>>691157152

When the Berniefags lost their candidate, quite a few of them got mad at the Democratic Party, in addition to not really liking Clinton anyway. So, they change to Trump, because now they have nobody to vote for that they like, only dislike and hate. They'll go with the dislike for obvious reasons.

And if you're only going to call me a faggot for explaining it to you when you announced that you did not understand, you need to either go back to surviving whatever little 2nd rate shithole European country you're in and leave America to its politics, or tear up your voting registration, shut the fuck up, and never have children.

>>691157256
If our laws have any meaning she will be. The evidence is pretty damning. Only partisan retards and paid shills believe otherwise.

>>691157712
because of systematic racist distribution of wealth

all white homeless people are actually sitting on mountains of cash.

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>>691157779
>white house furniture

>>691157779
If you think trump hasn't done way worst shit then you're absolutely delusional. It's not a question of who has integrity because neither of them do.

It is very easy.
If you dont want change you vote clinton.

>>691157712
he means "im a reddit mouthpiece"

>>691152928
minor detected

>>691157851
That's not to mention the children he raped.

>>691156854
remind me again which country has the better universities with tons of foreign students who come for that education and do not go to europes free unis. and why should citizens have to pay for everyone elses education.

remind me again which country fronts the overwhelming majority of the worlds military protection and cant put that money towards other things.

remind me again which economic system is not currently collapsing on itself due to stupid spending.

remind me why people need to pay into a healthcare system if they don't want to. And why they need healthcare at all if they don't want.

>>691157009
Probably two, minimum. Thomas already wanted to retire in 2012, but scrapped those plans when Romney lost. He really wants a GOP picked successor. But I don't think he has another eight years in him. He will probably retire after Clinton wins her second term.

>>691157919
Nobody's going to "change to Trump" autismo

go divide by zero or something

>>691157919
>you have two anons responding to you
>and that wasn't the original one

but you're still acting like a massive faggot so now i cant take anything youve said seriously.

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>>691157473
Which decisions are you talking about here?

Gay marriage is one of those decisions the majority of people agree with, and the Obamacare suit was just conservative butthurt that the Democrats passed anything that helped poor people.

>>691157529

The problem here is that once the candidate you like is removed, it become a lesser of two evils decision. You can't NOT vote, or the person you hate is more likely to win than the person you only dislike. That is why we have problems with this in America.

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>>691145439
It's call will full ignorance. They chose not to know, not to be informed, and not to dare to think for them self.

Because they dismiss all the corruption, and all the shit she days as conspiracy.

Even if you link them an unedited video of her saying some thing something else hey stll wont believe you...

You could have hard evidence it wouldn't matter. They are the kind of people that would fallow her off a cliff like lemmings...

>>691157946
Whatever it is, I wish the other fucking shoe would drop.

>>691150516
Nothing happened. There's nothing to get caught up on.

>>691158092
Remind me again why you're still pushing this crap after getting your ass handed to you about how Sanders' proposals are moderate in Europe.

>>691157946
The law doesn't allow the FBI to convict anyone. Stupid

>>691158209
So the alternative to corruption is even worst corruption? You're an idiot.

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>>691157977
Like what? Said some things that hewt your wittle feewings? Awww

>>691157763
German here.
>education is easily obtainable debt-free
Oh shit, so all those college fees I have to pay are actually illegal?
>Europe already has high taxes on the rich.
You're right, the Merkel administration is going after rich folk big time. It's not like the middle class is disappearing or anything! :>)

>>691158070
Retard alert. Guess again jackass. Believing laws should have meaning isn't childish or idealistic.

>>691154331
>like all those dumb faggot dems sitting on the floor of the House literally screaming like children
>ok

>>691158495
You've got free universities faggot. STFU.

And yes, Europe has higher taxes than the US. Stop being a Dumbkopf.

>>691157779
Sauce anon?

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Would you, /b/?

>>691158144

Respond to whoever talks to you, gaylord. You literally cannot tell who you're talking to is who you WERE talking to before outside of conjecture. These posts could be the same fag, they could also be 4 different fags who sound alike. Lurk moar, fagot.

>>691158555
wasted trips

sorry you think exercising free speech is "literally screaming like children."

>>691158666
Would smash and not just because of satanic trips

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>>691157976
>misspelt word! We got a misspelled word here!
>see nobody cares.

Nice gif decision

>>691158702
Stay autistic faggot

post another stupid math equation and tell us how everyone's gonna vote Trump

>>691157918
Great insult.
I think they missed it back on Reddit though.

>>691158366
moderate in europe does not mean moderate in reality. Europes entire political spectrum is pretty far left. I thought i made that clear when I first started arguing (but if not here it is).

>>691157976
that's not Newman though

it's Dennis

get it right

>>691158194
Or, maybe, just maybe, it's that he doesn't think the Supreme Court should be making ethics and morality decisions. They have one job, rule whether or not a law, ruling, or decision violates the constitution. Everything else is judicial activism.

>>691158969
>damage control

Sanders' policies are mainstream in Europe. Get over it.

>>691145439
It's mostly the blacks and hispanics. Those two groups will always vote for a Clinton because it's handout city.

>>691159026
Or maybe just maybe Trump is an uneducated dipshit who shouldn't be playing Judge.

>>691158843
>Misspelt
>Misspelled
Pick one

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>>691154341
>I tried to explain that. She has an unfortunate tendency toward secrecy.

This is a major problem I have with her.

>I don't think HRC is so stupid as to make inflammatory statements in speeches where she was gonna get paid one way or the other. No benefit to her whatsoever.

I don't know about that. Remember: one of those "private speeches" pretty much killed Romney's chances last election cycle (the 47% one). That was a speech that appealed to the small group in the room, but offended a large segment of voters. I have a feeling Hillary's speeches are along the same lines, especially given the audience (wall street).

How can one have any shred of belief that Hillary cares about the general populace when she's shown time and time again her allegiance to wall street? While I don't think there is anything damning in the transcripts, I suspect that they show where her true interests lie.

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>>691158611
I guess I don't live in Germany after all then.

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>>691145439

I will vote Dem until the slack-jawed Theocrats on the right can nominate someone capable of the job.

Tell me, if the RNC doesn't want Trump as their nominee, why would a rational person want him?

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>>691158092
>remind me why people need to pay into a healthcare system if they don't want to. And why they need healthcare at all if they don't want.

Because people without insurance or savings still get sick/injured and we've collectively decided that letting those people die on hospital steps is unacceptable for the world's richest society.

Or, if you want to go the selfish angle, private insurance holders were paying more to indirectly subsidize the care of non-payers. Getting more people on board who have the means to pay for insurance is better for the overall cost curve.

>>691156007
so fuckn' true

>>691159140
trolling is a art

>>691157239
Then I would ask you to check how many times Hilary's name was reported by the media vs. Bernie's. There was a deliberate effort on their part to NOT cover him nor his events, yet Hilary could sneeze and the press would be all over it, why? Because they knew that if they wanted to stay cozy with the DNC, they had to back Debbie's prized horse.

No, I don't like HuffPo. Huffington was an arch conservative until she realized that she could make money by switching sides. If you legit change parties/factions/etc. thats fine, but she is just a sell out.

As for saying a vote for Trump is to watch the world burn, WOW. Now you sound like Chicken Little, from the kids book. Will you be warning us of the sky falling next? This is the same alarmism that we hear each election. When Bill and Obama were elected the Right was preaching the end of days, when Bush 2 was elected the Left was warning that he would bring the apocalypse and after all those administrations, we are all still here. My point is (and has been) that regardless of their stances on this issue or that, a vote for Hilary is a vote for the establishment. If you want to find a candidate that wants to poke the old guard in the eye a bit, then Hilary is not for you. You should support Trump or Johnson or Stein.

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>>691158885

Stay mad that you can't understand a concept, bitch.

Post another insult that only proves you're a faggoty 15 year old who doesn't understand anything at all about politics.

>>691159049
Uhhm no?

>>691159186
Sorry you can't face the truth about your own country.

>>691159186
Sorry faggot
Hitler's not coming back