How do I joint the illumanati?

Wtf are the perks?

>>691013469
when you get caught fucking little boys do they pay off the victims and ship you off to another chapter like the catholic church?

What do freemasons do? Manage their communities? I've always felt like they're just a council that oversees their communities

Lurking. Curious and considering joining.

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>>691013812
>a council that oversees their communities

>>691013469
My father was a freemason and I am considering to be one. How expensive is it to join? And what are the requirements?

>>691013654
perks are definitely connections.
and connections are everything.
I landed my job because the head boss was a freemason

>>691013812
as far as ive seen, yes, we oversee the communities and do fundraisers and what not.
no Illuminatti as far as I can tell.

Its made me a wiser man

I don't believe in god, is that a problem with joining up?

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>>691014114
>Its made me a wiser man

>AMA on /b/

okay bud.

>>691014044
its not a lot. I cant remember but i think my dues are like 30 bucks a year.
You must believe in God. It can be any god as long as you believe its a higher power than you.

look for a lodge in your area and ask about joining. we love to meet expecting brothers

>>691014277
Just pretend you do, faggot

Hey brother... from which direction do you seek further knowledge

>>691014277
yea. you can lie, but everyone prays every meeting.
>>691014338
lol well im bored

>>691014488
I seek west brother

>>691013469
My grandfather gave me a penny with the compass and square mason G stamped in it. What does it mean?

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>>691014436
>we love to meet expecting brothers

>>691014801
my dad gave me one too.
its nothing special its just a regular penny.
but the square and compass meaning is secret. but the G I never really got an answer to. Its probably God

>>691015088
Geometry

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>>691015088
> the square and compass meaning is secret

>>691015088
Well yeah I actually know a lot about the symbol. I believe the G stands for gnosis. But what significance does the penny bear? Does everyone get one or is it for higher ups?

>>691015309
ah yea makes sense.. a lot of sense actually

>>691015474
Apprentice Mason reporting in

>>691015423
its supposed to be secret. you learn the meanings when you go through the levels.
but all the secrets can be googled now

>>691015433
nah its just a pressed penny. nothing special.
Now I have a ring that was my grandfathers who passed it to my father who passed it to me.
It is incredibly valuable to me personally

>>691013469
Freemasonry is a cult, no different than Islam or the Catholics.

>>691015557
are you saying you are an apprentice?

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>>691015783
>all the secrets can be googled now

>secrets, just google them.

>>691016053
the secret isnt anything wild.
its supposed to make you learn something.
you take an oath not to say what you learn, but of course people do

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>>691015821
lil difernt bud

>>691013469
>gay men's club

>>691013469
earth is flat?

>>691013469
I've been offered by two members to join a few times. Should I take up the offer? I'm kinda interested in making good connections to get into a career so I can escape poverty.

>>691016975
yea, definitely do it even if only for the connections.
That is the real biggie.
but as you go through the levels to become a master mason, you might actually learn something.

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>>691016975
>I've been offered by two members to join a few times

>>691013469
Is freemasonry dead because the new millenium and are it's only members the people who longed for a part of a story that has been long since finished or family members who are in a sense obligated to continue attempting run the community?

>>691013469
My entire family is masonic but me. Mum is OES dad is Star of the East and I think does some scottish rite stuff and my little sister is a Rainbow Girl. I probs would have joined a youth order if I cared enough.

I might be able to find one in my new town but I still can't be arsed.

>>691013469
Fellow mason here
Hello

>>691015557

Hold there, brother. Caution.

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>>691017881
>my little sister is a Rainbow Girl

finally this thread gets interesting.

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Hello hiram

>>691016441
You made Islam look interesting.

>>691013469

>HAVE YOU ALONE FATHOMED THE MASTER'S GRAND DESIGN?

>>691016053
when it's all symbols and allegory answers are arbitrary

>>691013469
Texas EA here. Good to see another Brother.

>>691013469
Can you quit if you want to?

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>>691017392
Can only join of your free will and accord buddeh

>>691019327
You can resign.

>>691019438
Any consequences? Shunning? Harassment?

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>>691013469
Alright i've got a question
Can you impress me?

>>691017881
I dont believe in youth orders and all that.
I live in alabama, and they just tried to lower the joining age from 21 to 18.
it failed and Im glad. I think 21 is a good year to start.

>>691019619
i hate jews

>>691014436
>>691014044

Another Freemason, but not OP, so not faggot.

You need to believe in a supreme being, it doesn't really matter which one.

My initiation fee was $55. Dues are $100 for my lodge but only begin when one becomes a Master Mason.

>>691019343
There's nothing wrong with

>hey the offer to join is here if you want
>nahh
>okay

>>691019653
Depends on the reason for leaving, if you are a galloping twat then yeah. Otherwise not really.

>>691019797
That is so unrelated to freemasonry

>>691019850
For proper orders the age is 21 unless you are the direct son of a mason. Queensland is kinda weird that way.

>>691019653
The part of the ritual is to tell you the consequenses (which are brutal btw) but that was back in the time of king david.
so no consequenses,
you will be blindfolded and be "neither naked nor clothed" your junk will be covered, but your shirt will be off

>>691014114
>wiser
>shit grammer

>>691019964

Jews? Lol this knowledge predates the Hebrew understanding of the Kybalion

>>691020239
they also wanted to start a "code" book to help with teachings.
But that was turned down too.
its meant to be learned by mouth

Alberta MM reporting in

>>691020239
You're probably in a separate jurisdiction and quite frankly I've never spoken to anyone who did not initially have the interest in the fraternity. I do not agree or condone your statement.

>>691013643
You must sacrifice a loved one. Preferably a young virgin girl fag

>>691020484
Most of my dad's ritual work had books from what I remember it was all encoded kinda like

>the W.M to S.D Give the Charge of F.

It is not hard to guess but it was enough to get me to put the book down and not really care.

>>691020239
>That is so unrelated to freemasonry

>>691020383
Who are you really affiliated with anon

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>>691013469
You people are the foundation
without the likes of you religion would have been eradicated in the western world

>>691022135
I don't think you quite understand how this all works friend.

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>>691021525
No

Im pretty sure modern free masons are fake as fuck becouse of all the illuminati shit these days but I know y'all do some dirty shit on the low, but that's none of my business

>>691022514
I't's funny how you have eyes to see but don't look.

>>691022799
chill dubs

they hired alex jones and put up these chaps to seem all credible, dead end so to speak.

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>>691022919
But my eyes aren't even real...

>>691014801
Post a pic, or describe anything else you see on the front or back. If there's only a square and compasses, it is probably just a souvenir from some Blue Lodge related occasion. Other odd symbols may mean it is from the Chapter Degrees, in the York Rite of Freemasonry. Also, more or less a memento from some sort of an event. You'll see as you move along. Don't ruin the experience by reading too much about it.

My question for you is: "Which office have you held that you have enjoyed most, so far?"

SD, for me. Very impactful presence. Especially in the degree work. I feel connected to the role of Chap., as well, and try to really create a space.

>>691013469
Youre a third generation faggot go kill yourself

Hey I was thinking of joining the Mason lodge near my house but after reading about them they won't accept members who are atheist. Can you comment on that OP? It seems like a cool community but I don't believe in God, I just wonder how much of a problem that's gonna be.

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>>691013469
Is the swag worth dues?

>>691020751
Must be, to be fair I have only extended the offer to people who have interest already. Normally not a very formal offer either mostly just dispelling the notions of crazy entry requirements and the like.

Can only whites join or are other ethnicities welcome? Ima spic by the way.

What is the point in joining

>>691024919
Spics would probably rather join the Knights of Columbus

I live in kosovo can I join?

>>691024919
Their is no cracker only rules anymore

>>691024948
Being part of a community, cool aprons.

When I turn 60 can I join and play bingo with you fags

>>691020484
I learned from code books. There wouldn't be nearly as many Masons if we all had to devote too much time away from work and family to learn things the old way. People are too busy these days. It's unfortunate. I draw the line just beyond the code books. I disagree with these one or three day "classes" I hear about. I disagree with the SR trimming up their degrees and allowing some to be skipped. I disagree with the Shrine going public and allowing non-masons to join. Ugh. Too "businessy" these days. Ugh.

>>691025342
I'm an introvert and don't care about aprons

>>691013469
Why do you guys refer to people who aren't Masons as traveling men?

>>691024235
It's a disqualifier. God is a big deal in Masonry. Which God, makes no difference. A Mason believes in some form or idea of a Supreme Being. Interpret that, as you will.

>>691015088
33

>>691025862
Can I believe in multiple gods?

>>691024235
Not OP, but a Mason.

An atheist cannot become a Mason, unfortunately. One of the base requirements is believing in a Supreme Being.

I believe the belief in a Supreme Being is necessary because of the influence that religion itself has had on the Fraternity, not just Christianity.

>>691025402
No, at 60 your flesh will be too tough to chew. Join now.

>>691013469
Have you found out that you worship Satan yet?

Ffs I live in kosovo, idk where can I join or where can I find them, any help?

>>691026555
Checked

And you really don't know how this works

>>691013469
My wife is convinced your organization is satanic and controls the world. Can OP confirm?

>>691013741
Thats Catholicism not freemasonry

>>691026765
she just doesn't want you outside of her control

>>691026744
Yes I do . It's you who is foolish .
Albert Pike was a Satanist

>>691014026
Lol KKK not the same thing

>>691027140
No it's not
Albert Pike started the KKK

>>691026214
Good question. I'm no expert on the topic... but I suppose it would depend on whether or not those multiple gods were all aspects of one greater God, or Supreme Being. I welcome anyone more knowledgeable to help clarify.

>>691019850
I also live in alabama. What are the people like?

>>691027272
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UcINDQDOUpk

>>691016053
just like Scientology. They used to sue people for trade secret infringement and copyright, whenever they told the story of Xenu or the other ridiculous stories at each of their expensive levels. Until the internet spread the stupid stories so widely they could no longer do so. Or sue critics and journalists into oblivion.

Today Scientology's membership is in freefall.

Alister Crowley was a mason , pedophile , satanist

>>691013469

I just got my 3rd degree a few weeks back! Where you from, brother?

>>691019327
check out any time you like. But you can never leave.

>>691015088
You didn't get the G lecture?

In washington the standard work explains it explicitly.

>>691027841
jej

>>691027679
He was not a mason by any stretch, wanted to be, but not a mason.

My grandfather had stonemasons in his family and he partook in it for a little. But I'm not technically his blood-relative so....mhm...

Being alive sucks sometimes

>>691027978
I think everyone gets the lecture.
I'm done here. He's walking backwards in another post. Hmmm. I'm outta here. Travel safe, Bro... ... ...

Freemasonry is proof that god is a made up man made concept.

There is absolutely no proof that there is an intelligent creator, but there are many story books and legends of where we came from. So some idiot makes a club for believers.

>>691013469
What do you feel about supporting yet another group that superimposes it's own agenda and petty interests in society. Favoritism is a cancer that allows for undue exercise and accumulation of power, old boys networks are one of the main culprits in corruption and government incompetence, nevermind they disrupt competition and free markets. Doing something that is so inherently self serving under the guise of upholding principles is just petty and certainly a form of hypocrisy.

>>691028686
The point of believing in a higher power is so you have a sense of humility, you twat.

>>691028686
Gotta read between the lines.

Is the door still closed for you and your friends?

>>691028495
>I'm not technically his blood-relative

WTF does that have to do with anything?

>>691013469
Do you believe in their god

>>691020239
I'm in Brissy, are you?

What is the best way to go about joining?
I see on the website that you can submit an inquiry but I feel like it would probably be ignored. I can't really sell myself that way.

Should I just befriend a mason and flat out ask them?

I've heard their standards have lowered now due to dwindling numbers. Once upon a time, people like Voltaire and Mozart were Masons. Now it's not held in such high regard

>>691029190
>WTF does that have to do with anything?
idk, I've never had the pleasure of knowing if it even matters. Sometimes I'd like to think my family has history but I don't come from much

>>691027272
Nathaniel Forrest started the KKK.

>>691029540
Al Gore invented the KKK.

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I've traveled so long, I know longer know if I will ever find my way out.

This path is through a cold desolate world and it's freezing me, inside. This is the direction I chose, and it was originally for the right reasons; day by day the farther I go, the more I feel lost, and alone.
The silence in this forest echoes the dark thoughts that I will never make it out, that I am going the wrong way, that I am wasting my time and energy.

Every step I take, brings me one step closer to the frozen center. It burns, this cold waste. This frigid hell.
In this place, I feel so alone. I miss the company on the journey. These steps are those no one can take with me.

A fear grows that there is nothing for me on this path I take. A rising dread that the direction I am headed will be fruitless for me.
Sometimes, I remember my self. Brief moments of clarity where I see.

This path I'm on, I don't travel to reap the seeds for me.
I do this all for You.

Forgive me.

>>691029006
Humilty isn't the same as stuopidity, is critical thinking a requisite as well?

>>691028983
It's less about the affiliation, and more about trustworthiness, team playing, mental competency, professionalism, courtesy & etiquette, a generally pleasant and friendly demeanor, problem solving ability, etc. These are qualities that can be almost assumed of any Master in my Lodge. Most EAs, even......... otherwise they wouldn't have made it that far. I don't see it as a terrible thing. I think the military and churches do the same... it's just the way people are. They'd rather choose someone out of a group they feel they can trust the most. If it's more than just that... I disagree with it.

>>691029448
>Now it's not held in such high regard

In the 18th and 19th century, masonry was basically a revolutionary organization. It didn't care if a member was Lutheran, Anglican, Orthodox, or whatever. Nobles got no special treatment. Royalty was inducted as apprentices like everyone else.

Masonry, like all such dissident organizations, matters more in hostile environments. Only a small number of people participated in the French Resistance during WWII, but afterwards tons of people claimed to be in it and those that really were became heroes.

There are "Voltaires" and "Mozarts" in the fraternity now. But no one cares.

>>691030041
It does not seem to be a task you are used to.

>>691030041
Uh oh, a middle schooler who thinks Atheism makes him smart. Look out, everyone!

>>691013469
Can someone tl;dr me on what freemasonry is?

Any chance of getting a freemason invite for Brazil? That's all I care...

Masonry is Jewry and must be destroyed.

>>691031797
OP here, absolutely not. Spanish are not allowed.

>>691032152
Nazis are here.

>>691032152
I hate Jews

>>691026214
Nope... Membership requires the belief in a Supreme Being. In other words, you have to believe in one creator. This is also my argument for Satanism in Freemasonry. I would never allow a Satanist to join the lodge because their faith would be in the Creation instead of the Creator. Who created Satan, and who created these other gods? God would have, so it is in him who you should trust.

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>>691032630
Heil!

I'd like to join I belive in god go to church most Sundays and live in Montreal. I know there's one here and I mostly need connections and jobs to get out of my town. I wouldn't mind sacrificing

>>691032474

What the fuck are you talking about son? We got Freemasonry here in Brazil too, and just to be clear we speak PORTUGUESE dumbass.

>>691030476
ad hominem, how cute...
>>691032654
You accept nothing but brainwashed idiots into your little treehouse but let's be fair, you do have some standards

>>691013469
senior demolay here