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Does it bother anyone else that we have no idea why we exist? Think about it. Since the dawn of time we've been questioning our existence and still have no answers. What's the purpose of life? If the laws of the universe allows life then there has to be a purpose to why life exist. Maybe it's something that the human brain can never comprehend.. what's your theories to our existence /b/?
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>>690901014
Either god created us, or we just happened, and either seems pretty fucked
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Why do we need a purpose/reason to exist? I don't think just because we exist means there necessarily has to be a reason why. Things just happen, and can be the way they are for no larger philosophical reason. Why is the sky the color blue? Theres the science behind it but there is no larger reason as to why it specifically had to be blue and not any other color. Maybe we should view our existence that way as well. It is what we make of it, nothing more and nothing less - but there is no fundamental meaning to life.
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Allow me to point out a flaw with your argument.
You might think that because the big bang resulted in this conversation, some force or being must have created it for the express purpose of your existence. This is vanity. No, just because life exists does not mean their is a higher purpose.
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>>690901252
l think it's something that our brain is just unable to learn. If there's a cause there must be an effect. But maybe there's something more than that....
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>>690901014
Literally, it bothers me everyday that first we dont know, and second that nobody seems to care
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Consider the following. There is no god. Dealwithit.jpg
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>>690901014
to be or not to be?
i think, therefore i am.

just pick something to believe in anon. ull be fine.
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>>690901779
Terrible advice. Belief is defined as a state of mind in which evidence is treated with disregard.
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>>690901779
Also, you have no reason to expect that you'll be fine.
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>>690901872
sorry anon, you cant just make up definitions for words.
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>>690901687
I never really cared about it until recently.. and now it consumes my mind..
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>>690901014
If you can't give yourself a purpose than you're wasting your life
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>>690901014
Why does it need an answer? And what if there is no answer?
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>>690901014
life is just another level of complexity
there is no reason
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>>690901946
you have no reason to NOT expect that youll be fine.

it all comes down to the attitude if you want to be negative and expect life wont be find then go ahead and do that with your life.

i on the other hand wiill expect everything to turn out great!
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>>690902314
I just like hearing other's theories to why everything happened.
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>>690901014

I'm a deist. I believe that some kind of high power or force that science will never be able to comprehend created the universe and humanity. I also believe it doesn't give a shit. No I can't prove any of this, but I'd rather believe in something and have death insurance than be a fedora tipping atheist faggot.
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>>690902049
My definition is the same as yours but mine also accounts for popular connotation while communicating the same meaning with fewer words. You can just "accept" that or you can explain very carefully explain how belief is not, in fact, a state of mind in which evidence is treated with disregard.
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>>690901014
Purely coincedental. Move on bro.
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since there's no free will life's already determined for ya
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>>690901528
/thread
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>>690902843
>>rather believe in something than be an athiest
You're more concerned with the appropriated reward for group allignment than you are with knowledge and for that you should kill yourself.
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>>690901014

There is a purpose yes. But not from the outside, from the inside.

We are a step in brains and consciousness trying to evolve.

Which is why everyone should practice meditation.
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>>690902670
Yeah you just do that you get fucking cake in the sky forever when youre dead so why bother being anything but a piece of shit while you're alive
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I think we're here to help the universe experience itself.
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>>690903300

>I definitely know for sure that god doesn't exist haha I'm so smart I have KNOWLEDGE !

You're a complete and utter total faggot and should go back to watching Banana boy fuck himself in the ass and pour hot oil on his cock.
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>>690903504
We are the universe and we are trying to figure out what created us.
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>>690902746
Here's a theory for ya. The big bang is only an explosion relative to us. Mathematically certain, for every black hole there is a white hole. I propose our entire universe and all of the matter within it was born as a blackhole in some other dimention where matter is more available for consumption than what we could imagine. Our universe is a fart and this alternate universe that contains our mother (black) hole is more like a soup.
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>>690901014
My gut tells me that the human brain can't comprehend most of the universe. I don't think there really has to be a purpose for our existence but I always like what Carl Sagan said

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xaj407ofjNE
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>>690903640
Hey buddy stick around! It gets better. Consider the following. You're upset.
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>>690901014
1. our minds may be able to comprehend it, they may not.
so what is the point, we need to treat life with more urgency, if god created us in his image then with our superior intelligence we should use that to create amazing technology and just generally promote the betterment of mankind
-mdm
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>>690903726
Why does it matter what created us? You might come up with a name for that creator - then what? Then you've got a name in a book naming that entity. So what? How would life change? It would be a word on paper. You'll never witness creation or have true contact with the creation. Thus that "knowledge" just remains a name on paper. You can write down a name on paper right now and there you go... Who cares?
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>>690903726
We're not the universe. We are one small part of the infinitely expanding universe.
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>>690903880

No you're just a pessimistic faggot because your life is shit. Stop trying to spread your negativity upon others. If you're so mad slit your wrists already.
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>>690904194
>infinitely expanding universe
You don't know this.
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>>690903784
Heres a thought. At the smallest level of particles, subatomic particles like neutrinos will fly through 10000 light years of lead and never bump into any matter. Thats because relative to the size of the neutron, a vast majority of the space in front of it is completely unimposed by matter. The area between the atoms which assemble lead would look like thin air to a neutrino and make up roughly 99.99% of the volume within what we observe as a solid.
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>>690901528

This. The reason life exists can probably be explained by matter/energy distribution in our universe and enthropy and more fundamentally the simplest laws of nature we can hope to someday understand. That, however, doesn't mean that life itself has to have a reason or a goal (apart from the usual evolutionary explanations).

It's a bit sad, yet hugely comforting IMO.

The reason for the existence of a sentient, experiencing self is of course a different matter. I've always been interested in the evolutionary meaning of conciousness, but all the phenomenological and ontological 'research' in the world still can't explain why, how and when.
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>>690901779
thinking does not equate being though
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>>690904194
actually, our universe is closed

and it is contracting which means
time is moving backwards.
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>>690904469
Okay so now use the same image of the speck flying through a rock like a spaceship between stars and imagine that instead of lead atoms they are universes and instead of a neutrino that's you. All of existence? It's much bigger than most people let on.
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>>690901014
That's the problem with humans. You keep finding a reason higher than the obvious true answer: to pass on your genetics. That's it. No "space exploration", no "tall monuments". Searching for answers only raises infinite questions. You are born to support your habitat, the earth, and to pass on genetics, enjoying the simplicity of life itself. That's why the first sin was eating from the tree of knowledge. It was a metaphor. Seeking higher places only leads to chaos and more sin due to the confusion that the ego brings.
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>>690901676
"If there is a cause there must be an effects".

Nope, this is a major flaw in human knowledge and learning, and it's the reason religion exists.

Just accept something are, they just are.
Big bang, our existence, whatever, it just is. No need to find a cause.
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Because shit happens.
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>>690904501
I recently learned that some inferior apes like gibbons engage regularly in play that mimics the actions of what appears to be drunkenness. They close their eyes, raise their hands above their heads and spin around. I connected it to this theory that human conciousness is a result of the consumption of psychedelic mushrooms, which act both as a performance enhancer and a recreational drug. Human society may have developed the first cultivation techniques in the early hominid years.
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>>690905219
Excuse me?
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>>690901014
>If the laws of the universe allows life then there has to be a purpose to why life exist

this is bait, isn't it?
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there is a reason, you just aren't privy to it.
dealwithit.
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>>690905471
At least the bait has the potential to start a discussion.
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>>690905633
Notice how i said potential because there's no discussion happening just adamant refusals and claims
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>>690904672
Link? Explanation? Ken M.?
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>>690905065
Right its a metaphor for how searching for knowledge is bad. Always remember to keep your head down and your feet moving! Your god smiles when you enjoy your place. You belong in your place.
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>>690901014
It's simple, we are part of this planet, in the grand scheme of things we are really just energy transporters, we are meant to breed and perpetuate this machine.
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>>690905065
I think your place might be the 4th grade, buddy
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>>690906234
It's like you're a ribosome in human form. Why dont you just carru that fat sack of shit you call energy to the nearest infertile soil and make yourself useful already
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>>690901014
Nah it doesn't bother me. It's a fucking pointless question. We are. That's it. Quit letting small details be big headaches.
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>>690905388

That theory is at least interesting and not totally unplausible. Psychedels have some really amazing effects on your feeling of seld and conciousness overall. I suppose there are no papers on it? (used to study evolution at undergrad level so I'm intrigued)

I don't see any problem in the 'theory' that conciousness just simply was constructed bit by bit by natural selection. It's a fact that there can be different stages of conciousness and it is also a pretty convincing theory that the brain is just a modular, hierarchical information processing system so there shouldn't be a insurmountable problem in explaining the hows and whens and whys (unlike I mistakenly stated earlier).

The fundamental nature of conciousness seems to be as elusive as it gets though. I mean, scientifically.
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>>690906522
because in our lifespan we are meant to transport energy all around, shitting, eating, fucking, all these things burn and transport energy, shitfucker.
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pretty sure you humans will kill yourselves before you can even figure out what lies just beyond your home planetary system
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>>690901014
It bothers me that you used an yin yang taoist image, yet you imply that life has to have a purpose.
Life doesn't have a purpose.
The reason for life is life itself.
It cannot be studied, nor analized, nor theorized.
It can just be lived.
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>>690901014
I can't stop thinking of that Rick and Morty episode where Rick has built an entire (tiny) civilization inside his car battery, to have them generate power for his car. And the whole civilization is clueless.

Now I can't stop thinking we may be in the same sort of situation. Life would be pretty lame if our ultimate cause was to power some guys battery.
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no no no you retards, yes we dont have answers but we have the ability to seek them out. the point of life is to live. simply speaking, find meaning in your life, you have free enough will find that on your own and accept the fact that nothing you matters. we are born, we live we die. cycle of life
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>>690906789
Hey Mr. Thermodynamics over here says the meaning of life is to move around energy. Listen here buddy. One day there will be no light in the night sky because every single star in the galaxy- big or small- will be a black dwarf. A marble in the sky incapable of transporting energu in any other form than momentum. Moving energy around huh? Yeah where to
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>>690906720
old pasta of mine regarding consciousness and AI etc.:
The problem is that most of these words/concepts were invented well
before Darwin and people haven't been willing to place them under scrutiny - now matter how little reason there is to believe that they comply with reality or not. It is deplorable how many otherwise intelligent people claim they accept evolutionary theory (of course, duh!), but when you start talking about humans they will deny the consequences. Sentiments like a "subtle difference that robots could never *actually* experience", that there *must* be something that only humans have (like sentience), are seen as axioms and everything else is build upon that premise. A network of weigthed connections i.e. a brain isn’t any less deterministic than an if else script, the cause and relationships are just less obvious. Sentience/consciousness didn’t _evolve_ , we simply decided to call the level of complexity/intelligence we arrived at that way and declare it something fundamentally different from anything any other animal or machine could ever experience.
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We exist because someone didn't pull out. That's it. But that's good because it's easier to count when you start from zero.
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>>690906720
>>690905388
thats called the "stoned ape" theory, developed by terrence mckenna.
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>>690906720
Sigh of relief* i was starting to feel like a knight without armor in a savage land. I never bothered to actually research the topic since the big picture can be understood at a glance.
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>>690901528
Dis
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>>690903189
can determinism and free will co exist?
i think it can
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>>690906982
Biology- "the study of life"
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>>690907143
"i think, therefore i am"

>>690901014
>>690901014
OP people have been pondering this since the beginning of humanity, maybe if everyone pitches in we can crack the answer in this thread tonight
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The question is the answer.
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>>690902883
"butt muh evidence!!"
not everything is quantifiable.
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>>690907059
>>you have free enough will
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>>690907523
With enough amphetamine anything is possible
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>>690906170
>>690906247
Like I said, Ego. What's wrong with simply enjoying a sunrise and thinking "yeah, I was here to enjoy this" every morning, instead of seeking for reasons you'll never be satisfied with? What of the reason was to smash as many ants as possible, and that's it? Can't you learn to live in the moment and enjoy what you have?
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>>690901014
My vote is four dimensional creature and we're their playthings.
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>>690901014
Its like a man in a cartoon. He will never know see or hear about its artist...
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>>690907143

Absolutely right. It seems so natural for humans to think that there is some magic trick (or even worse -- a 'quantum weirdness' or similar) behind it all.

ATM I'm doing some reading to get a cohesive picture of the evolutionary processes behind conciousness and the computational theory of mind etc. Because I'm still a bit lacking when it comes to the greater picture.

Hell, might even shift to cognitive science or philosophy who knows.
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Life is absurd. Everything is absurd.
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>>690907200

Oh that guy. Well thanks for the information, dude.
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>>690907482
excuse me?
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>>690907771
also always thought its possible we are basically in a fishtank like pets for someone
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>>690907083
just shifting it around to burn it, we are living entropy
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>>690907545
Your unwillingness to learn is pathetic. Saying you cant quantify everything is like saying some stuff is magic it's just fucking nonsense. Go ahead and choke on this series of syllables you fucking ape. BANAL PLATITUDE
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>>690907723
Anonymous genius guesses the meaning to life on first try.
Directive #1: >>squash ants
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>>690904501

To eventually create something that can evolve itself.

When we perfect nanotechnology and are able to amplify our intelligence, capacity and physical survivability we can become "gods."
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>>690901014
I recently thought about the multiverse theory and came up with the idea that everything exists.
Similar to the multiverse theory, there is a universe for every possible value any physical constant can have.
Now, don't imagine them as closed off bubbles but as a continuous field, that contains multiverses.
Each multiverse would describe a set of constant that would allow for matter or energy to create structures or behave in a structured way.
Hence the difference from the 'outside' of the universes area.
Basically existence is a hypercube with an axis for each physical constant.
Within the volume of the cubes there are (probably spheres) of combinations of constants that allow for existence like ours.
Every possible combination of constants exists, even the things that according to our comprehension can not exist, we're just lucky to be part of one of those sweet spots.
What do you guys think?
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>>690907723
>>cant you learn
Sounds alot like "i know better than you"
>>thats the ego
You are a fucking satirical hypocrite who only exists as a cautionary tale
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>>690908145
if you just take like one class of college philosophy you will learn of a whole new world of unquantifiable things, like qualia for instance.
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>>690908317
That will never happen because some humans are always going to pursue power, hence why human race is the only one capable of auto-destruction.
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>>690908317

I'm not a transhumanist but I find the idea pretty cool. And why not if it's possible?

>>690908415

I think you should read pic related.
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>>690907723
Organisms use all of the resources available to them to make their lives more comfortable. It's like you're declaring that you're a helpless moron
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>>690907804
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>>690907723
I agree with you anon. Don't listen to these clueless assholes:
>>690908510
>>690908676
>>690908267
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>>690908673
>I think you should read pic related.
The title seems about right.
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>>690908571
You're incapable of reconciling with the fact that you mis-spoke so now you're trying to redirect the conversation to something you think you know more about than me.
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The purpose of life?

We forge our lives through what we love and what we're passionate about. We have to stop thinking of 'Why' we're here.

The point of life is to live it. That's it. There's no more, and none less.

The point of life is to live, be happy, and be yourself.

I love you all.
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>>690907034
Anyone else feel like this?
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>>690908934
Yeah /b/ro. Good luck with that. Some people will never understand it, sadly.
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>>690909022

I do find the simulation hypothesis intriguing but I'm not sure if things like that are worth contemplating.
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>>690908925
what do you mean i mispoke?
i said not everything is quanitfiable.
then you said it wasnt true.
so then i provided you with an example of something that was not quantifiable.
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>>690908853
Stand fast against adversity and guide those in most need of direction. I took so much amphetamine today that my heart wont chill out even though my last dose was a mere 10mg over 8 hours ago
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>>690908917

Read it, bro.
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>>690909022
Yeah, there even is a scientist who claims that we're all living in a simulation.
Imagine the moment humanity reaches the fringes of the universe and the realm of possibility we realize that we've all just been the simulation of a single program and start to incorporate that knowledge into our existence.
Basically the moment before skynet becomes sentient, except we're skynet.
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>>690909117
You're right. It probably isn't worth it.
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>>690909164
Then stop doing that and go for a walk in the morning instead.
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>>690901014
take dmt, ayahuasca or lsd(at least 500ug preferably 1000ug) and find out by yourself trough your own direct experience without theorizing or asking questions. I mean it.
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>>690909117
>>690909022
i actually think that simulation is the only logical truth.

if you think about our civilization. its safe to say the one day our technology will advance enough for us to simulate a universe of our own. and given the fact that our universe is billions of years old, its only logical that some civilization already achieved this and we are just the results of that civilizations experiments.

sometimes i think that our universe is just a simulation to figure out what life would do when left completely alone in the universe.
as in, there are no aliens, and the universe is actually indeed built specifically for us humans to be alone in.

the answer is life would destroy itself over and over again until the end of the simulation.
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>>690909254
I'll try, currently looking if I can get easily here.
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>>690909215
you went to all the trouble of copying somebody elses words so that you could communicate absolutely nothing
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>>690909288

Or maybe it is? I dunno man.

Have you ever thought about the fact that if this hypothesis is correct we probably live in a infinite system of layered realities?
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>>690909282
Not 100% sure, but I think Occam's razor applies here, similarly to "maybe a god was behind the big bang". We could be in a simulation, but it is more likely that we aren't.
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this thread makes michio laugh
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>>690909419
> indeed built specifically for us humans to be alone in
See, this always leads me to the question which substandard programmer decided it was important to simulate galaxies and stars we can't even measure?
Wouldn't that be a huge waste of resources?
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I think the space is basically black infinite nothingness....and a planets, humans, animals is just temporary shit. The nothingness must be somehow alive and intelligent, and it was able to create life... Thats the one and only logical explanation
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is it possible that every theory of everything coexists and fits together in a manner that is beyond human comprehension?
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>>690909363
While i appreciate the idea that somehow meaning can be discovered through a journey into ones own mind, the reality is much funnier you delusional tweaker.
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>>690909560
Michio's guess is as good as anyone's guess.
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>>690909506
Yeah, I mean it could be anything, we don't know.

I came up with that as part of a sci-fi story, so don't think I actually believe we're a simulation.
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>>690909575
it wouldnt be considered an accurate experiment if shit was left out would it?

and im sure simulating universes is as difficult as the flip of a switch to amazingly advanced civilizations.
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>>690909355
Good deed for the day. Hey thanks gramps but theres actually no pattern of repetition here. Today is the first time i ever touched the stuff in my life and im fresh out. Great advice though. A walk in the mornings should help me digest my microwavable tv dinner you senile fucking slug
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>>690901014
Fuck Bitches, Make Money?
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>>690901252
>Either god created us, or we just happened
Or we're just a simulation.

That's a valid theory and can't be proven wrong as of now. (Not proven to be true too but well...)
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>>690909915
or string theory
or multiverse theory
or big bang theory
who the fuck knows man.

its not about finding the answers, its about changing the questions.

at least thats what i think
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>>690909727
Well yeah.
We could assume that this is the great final run, where everything is being simulated as realistically as possible.
Hey, maybe that means they assume we're going to leave our planet at some point and not destroy it. Because why else should they bother?
It's not like the movement of galaxies or stars has been important to human development until very shortly, unless of course the humans are not the focus of the experiment.
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>>690909419
>>its only logical
We have a mathematician here folks watch him as he defies all odds and says something even more cancerous and dull then the last guy
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>>690909650
try first. then talk. that which you experience is only your mind, you can not experience something which is not your own mind, because you experience everything with/trough your own mind. for each of us personally there is no "reality" other than our own minds. regardless whether an outer objective reality exists or not. we are each stuck in the realm of our own mind.
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>>690909419
>>its safe to say
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>>690910042
im afraid i have no idea what your point is.
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>>690909466
Nice dubs tho
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>>690910136
>>690910136
oh i guess its not.
humans will never ever advance far enough to simulate a universe.
sorry im assuming things for the sake of fun conversation.
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>>690909497
>>the fact that if
>>we probably
Conditional statement 101
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>>690909560
Michio aways raff first
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>>690909587
True. Whatever you said is the only logical explination. Hell, anything you say is a fact if you want it to be hard enough.
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>>690909622
No. Because in mathematics it takes one counter-argument to render a logical statement false. And there are many conflicting theories. What theories are you talking about? What compelled you to post this? Are you a zombie or what? Jesus m8 youre slow
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>>690910202
My point being, that I can't imagine someone simulating the entire universe, so he can look at a couple billion apes that haven't left their planet and likely will never leave their galaxy.

Would make more sense to simulate the solar system or galaxy and fudge the remaining universe data.
Hence why I think, we're either not being simulated, or we're not the goal of the simulation, just something that happens to be part of it.

Unless of course the universe is some kind of pre-packaged library the lazy fuck imported.
> Oh yeah, I used universe.js for exercise 1.1 Simulate small scale evolution
> are you fucking crazy?!
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>>690909830
I truly don't get why you are so angry at me :I
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>>690910751
oh i see what you mean now.
makes sense.

but why would someone simulate just the solar system. this completely removes the possibility of ever leaving the system much less the galaxy. if you are simulating something, should every possibility be available?
cutting things out just screws up the balance of it all. i dont think that a good enough reason to throw out simulation.
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But what we humans want is irrelevant, you dumb mortal, none on this matters, black holes could just appear near this planet and destroy everything you've ever known and delete all of what you've known from this universe, forever, your narcissism and over-appreciation for your species will be the end of you, no you are not special, and you will not be special, there is no meaning for life besides living, no, justice doesn't exist, Hitler probably doesn't burn in hell, stop being a bitch and grow into reality, where things are dark and scary and uncertain, and there is no relief.
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>>690909419
Watch the 13th floor. It's literally your idea turned into a movie. I'm sure u'll enjoy it.
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>>690910073
Not only is your point valid, but it hits the right at the heart of this thread. To say something so profoundly stupid that it permanently reduces your own intelligence.
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>>690910751
what about size differences? how many cells, live bacteria and microbes are you keeping in a potted plant in your garden? it's not like you observe them, they are just incidental to the fact you have a plant
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>>690905466
Why did you say that in response to his post? He wasn't incorrect.
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>>690910751
>>690911104
maybe our entire universe is one cell of one organism in one being's pet fish
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>>690910268
Humans like you? Probably not
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>>690910268
>>humans will never ever
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>>690911104
>>690910751
maybe our universe is the size of an electron in comparison to something else's grain of sand on a beach
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>>690901014
We need to become just smart enough to pass the torch to a super advanced AI, like Skynet or Brainiac in Superman lore.

After this task is completed not much more will matter over the endless time.
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>>690910945
It surely limits the simulations capability, but since we're probably never going to leave our galaxy at all, they might as well make that one of the assumptions.
Since apparently some pesky laws prohibit us from ever reaching them, even if we had light speed travel.

Basically I assume that there would be a much more efficient way to simulate evolution and the rise of a humanoid species, than to simulate an entire universe.

>>690911104
Completely correct, but at that moment I'm taking care of the plant. I don't really care what the micro organisms are doing, as long as they don't do too much.
So they'd be simulating the universe measuring how life affects it, or maybe our planet.
See, I think we're part of the simulation that is being used to simulate something else, while the natural assumption is, that everything else is being used to simulate us.
Assuming we're actually l iving in a simulation of course.
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>>690911167
Hahah not even the pet fish but like some kind of parasite living in its guts. Fantastic. Thank you for playing
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>>690901014
>If the laws of the universe allows life then there has to be a purpose to why life exist

I don't know why people are so convinced of this. There's literally no reason that this must be true.
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>>690911246
>Implying our universe isn't just a meatball in the starchy tendrils of the great flying spaghetti monster
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>>690910804
Im not angry. Im just disappointed. And very. Very sleep deprived. And i possess a colourful vocabulary. And amphetamine.
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>>690910804
Maybe the reason you're confused by the emotions of other people is because you're autistic
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Humans exist due to possibilities arising in a state of flunctuating chaos. Non-loving matter turned to living, and created a second nature which shouldn't exist. Human nature. We have fucking buildings, internet, and other contraptions that make you really think, how the fuck was any of this even possible from Earths natural resources? It doesn't make sense how we have this knowledge, and live in a society where we are basically controlled. We aren't even free. We always have to grow up and work and do stupid fucking shit. Nobody asked for this but they accept it, and therefore nobody thinks of these things so they make it seem weird to do so. They are brainless, and one with the mob. But I really think it's the most fascinating thing and I have always been that way. I would move my hand around and just watch me move my fingers and wonder how I'm doing that. It feels very odd to be alive, and to live like this knowing everything else.
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>>690901014
" If the laws of the universe allows life then there has to be a purpose to why life exist"

no. there's a crucial difference betweens laws of physics and nature. laws of physics work independent from the human mind and we only have models for them. purpose as a concept is due to our thinking, something we imply. a tree doesn't care about purpose, it's just something that appears in the human mind and is therefore irrelevant for every "form of life" outside our brains. in other words: purpose is not something which is really "out there"
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>>690911349
hey it's humbling how small we humans are in comparison to our own solar system, much less galaxy, much less universe

unless science figures out a way to mitigate distance or time, assuming it is even possible, humans wont know the answers to these questions
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>>690911887
sorry. nature = purpose
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No but what bothers me is the fact that no matter what college I go to, no matter how much I earn at my job I will still die one day
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The purpose of our existence is for existence itself to become self-aware.
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>>690912118
why does death bother you?
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>>690911108
The statement is just confusing because it suggests that causality isn't a fundamental law of time and motion. And he also says something p autist here
>>"if a cause exists then there must be an effect." FALSE
A cause by definition only exists relative to an effect. I mean what about this is so hard for you?
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our sun can fit 1.3 million earths in it. just think about that when trying to grasp the size of a human in relation to our universe


>everything you have ever heard about, anything that has been done, all of mankind's accomplishments, kings, wars, religions, can be covered by your thumb from this perspective
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>>690911108
Must be new to english
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>>690912230
BC unlike most of the edgelords on this board I enjoy life
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>>690911810
Or maybe because those emotions are generated by drug usage hence confusing :^)
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>>690912488
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>>690911601
Well ok then. Have a nice day I guess.
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>>690912519
Seems to me you're more afraid of death than favorable of life.
Enjoying being alive has nothing to with whether you're scared you're going to die one day or not.
Unless you're the kind of person that locks himself in a room and spends his days crying that he's gonna die in a couple of decades.
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>>690912519
but death if part of life (or how would you clearly distinct those two?), so: enjoy life, enjoy death
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>>690911927
Well hey now that's dangerous thinking now. You better keep your eyes off the sky and fixated on the dirt where you belong
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Nature has no purpose. "Purpose" is a metaphysical concept that life creates in order to grant meaning to itself in an egocentric way. In other words, nonliving things do not serve a purpose as purpose is subjective to a living entity. Nothing in the universe has purpose to an amoeba other than to reproduce. They're not concerned with their over all existence because they are not intellectually concerned with it.

>tldr
Purpose doesnt exist to the majority of living things, mostly things lacking intellect.
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>>690912118
Without it? We are. With it? We are not. Don't concern yourself with the affairs of a person who no longer exists
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>>690912171
Nice theory except that we are self aware and theres alot of shit that's incapable of being self aware.
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>>690912488
>>3 deep 5 me
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>>690901014
> why we exist

Why does there have to be a 'why'? Who says there's some 'greater purpose'?

Sounds to me like you're trying to find a reason for your life to continue, or perhaps some rationale as to why you're wasting your life thinking about stupid shit on /b/.

Just come to terms with the fact that there is no greater purpose and there are no sky daddies watching over us dictating what is and what must be.

We are. That's all there is to it. We exist, and that's it. What's important is WHAT we do with that existence, not WHY we exist.

Sadly, we're doing pretty fucking terribly in the "what" department.
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http://multivax.com/last_question.html
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>>690913084
Any chance to use that big scary word metaphysical. Even if abstract would have been a better word. You're like no. Its more than abstract. It's abstract metaphysical. Thats so redundant man come on
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>>690913990
Seems fine to me, purpose is a non-physical concept propagated by physical concepts.
Hence, metaphsyical.
Could've used abstract but that's less precise imho.
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>>690901014
>there has to be a purpose

What if there's not? You can't take a purpose as the only answer, as there might be no purpose at all.
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