>>689772276
Look up polyamourous

jack off

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Are you just trying to fuck or do you wine and dine her before? A little bit of romance goes a long way. Also have you told her outright that you are left unforfilled or are you too much of a beta fag?

>>689773029
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>>689772276

I really think you should slap a ring on her, and call it quits anon. You'd be greedy to look elsewhere.

If you dump her for some cumslut, the slut will probably cheat on you, and you'll never get wifey back. The "better" the sex, the crazier the girl. Heed these wise words.

My wife is the same as your grill. She was like that before marriage. Then kids killed her sex drive, and she killed mine. All those fetishes came true as we tried to make things interesting again. Anal, BJ (won't swallow though), lots of awesome oral, watch porn, I eat her as too, she's working towards mine, (but lots of taint). Not saying yours will turn out that way, but there's hope. Sanity with a 7+/10 is worth fantasies remaining just that. It's almost impossible to find a grill at that age that isn't batshit crazy.

tl;dr put a ring on it.

Similar situation to op. My gf is basically a 10/10 match with me personality wise. Same exact interests, funny, loyal as fuck, knows how to get me out of my shell and have fun, and is a great cook. She's even horny as fuck, but into just vanilla sex. Problem is I'm not attracted to her physically at all anymore. She gained weight after thyroid surgery, so it's a legit excuse, not just being a lazy fuck. But still, I don't really find her hot at all anymore. Sex is basically a chore.

Also, My ex was hot as fuck and the best sex I've ever had, but a complete spoiled bitch so I broke it off.. But I keep thinking of fucking her and other hot girls.. What do I do?

>>689772600
Thing is, I don't want her to get dicked by some other dude if we're in a relationship.
And she's not about putting another girl in the equation 'cause: 1) no friends of her would be into it; 2) she says if we someday do a MFF threesome someday then we'd have to do a MFM one too and I don't want that.

>>689773029
Wow, never thought of that. I do that more often than I'd like.

>>689773187
Like I said, I've broke up with her before because of this, so I told her, to her face on the last time. And it was quite a lengthy talk, quite emotional for both. But she admits she just has low sex drive and I know I have a high one.
We sometimes have sex even if she doesn't want to. She does it just so I can be relieved and happy. But I hate that. I know she can't just change the way she is, but I need more...

>>689773936
I know what you're saying.
She's definitely wife material but being only 23, is "sucking it up" the way to go? I don't want to be this unhappy for 60+ more years, you know? Is there a chance she'll change?
Trust me, I know a slut when I see one, and I've dated one before, who never cheated but it was a highly unstable relationship so we just broke up. I wouldn't be falling for that again. If I dump my gf again I wouldn't look for a relationship elsewhere anytime soon. Just some hanging outs, make outs and one night stands. Or some sex friend stuff.

>>689774162
My fear is committing to her, at this age, and then turning 30 or 40 or 60 and be like "bah, shit.... should've lived more:"

>>689775126
OP here. Kinda different problems there, but I understand the feels.
Also, my ex and I had a complicated relationship but she was crazy good at sex and I know she wants to fuck me still and loves me. She attempts to chat with me at times, which worsens my case, 'cause I know I'd have crazy good time with her. She has a bf though but I know she'd fuck me, no problem.

>>689772276
get her drunk

>>689775617
Shit, that's even worse than my situation. I haven't kept in contact at all w my ex because I know id be too tempted to just fuck her again because she was so damn hot and the sex was amazing. I guess there's nothing for you to do but avoid the temptation. Think you could just cut her off? Otherwise the temptation would probably be too much

>>689775197
You're going to have to compromise on MFM if you want FFM. Have fun spit roasting her...you'll learn to like it, and she will love DP.

I'd say she has some fantasies of her own, and the offer was an admission of a wild side. But you need to work with her to get her to open up and have fun. And she might not without a commitment.

>>689775727
Will second this. Just drink w her to loosen her up and she'll likely be more open to trying new things. I've had relationships w pretty lame sex and booze always helped to open it up.

Wow OP, this is exactly my problem too, awesome gf like she will suck my cock some mornings or jack me or whatever but when it comes to her she has zero lust or desire to want me to make her cum, she just star-fishes it when we fuck to and as soon as she makes me cum she just rolls over and goes to sleep, it kills me as i hope above hope itll change. She thinks going on the pill might help but ive read that kills sex drive too. Would marry her but im in your position too bro, 24 and if i commit whose to say she wont just turn into a sour cunt or what if i loose my mojo, then we both will may as well be 80 fucking years old and never fuck

Is sadly very depressing, i mean i can fuck for hours i can suck a clit like no other and all that shit so its not an issue of professionalism more so she just has no want for any of it. The amount of times she has rejected me ive lost count, i miss my ex gf, fucking cunt may have cheated on me but shit she was always thirsty, she would have like 7 orgasms every fuck sesh. Does any /b/ro know of any natural supplements that can help boost females libido

>>689776015
Like, I don't want to completely cut her off because we ended on good terms, despite a complicated relationship. It took a lot of effort and patience but we did t and I'm happy with that. She, though, isn't really over me when it comes to love. I don't love her anymore but I want to fuck her so bad... Thing is, I don't give her much convo and she comes to chat with me 'cause I don't want to upset my gf. I've explained both my position when it comes to that chat shit. So, yeah...

>>689776219
I rather not have a MFF if that means I'll have to MFM though, so I'm not doing that.
She doesn't have a wild side, except for a MFM. That's it. I'd know by now if she had any fantasies other than that. She doesn't. Which makes it hard to "negotiate" 'cause I've told her I'd do stuff with her if it involves only us both and she doesn't want anything. Like I said, she has low sex drive, no horny somewhat-crazy shit.

>>689775727
>>689776288
This would work if she wasn't such a bird with drinking. She very rarely gets drunk. And since none of us got car, we always have to walk home and when we arrive she's only tipsy...

>>689776354
>>689777173
Yeah man... feels bad... My gf doesn't suck dick in the morning though. I wish, lol.
Our sex (no suck) is either in the morning when she has a higher sex drive (still small though) but I don't feel like fucking 'cause I'm sleepy af or at the end of the night, before sleeping, when she's already in lame pyjamas and I have to "seduce" her.


Also, if I break up with her this 3rd time, I'm afraid getting back together will go a long way...

>>689778063
Does she drink? Cause that will make her Horny as fuck

>>689772276
Im in the same boat, /b/ro...

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>>689772276
You're gonna have to let her go. after two years, the longer you go until you break it off and those expectations aren't met, it will slowly start to turn to resentment and your relationship will become really shitty.

>just broke it off with a 4.5 year relationship for same reason. I'm 36.

At youre age, if she's not fucking your brains out as much you want her to, she never will. The only course of action is to break it off and find someone new. You're young enough. it'll suck at first but when you find someone different, you'll be glad you did and you'll think back "That anon was right, I'm glad i took his advice."

>>689772276
imho you will never find the girl with which you are perfectly connected in every aspect in life. so if the rest is so much better together with her, i say keep her

>>689778795
That's not all true. Have been with my gf for 8 years now fiancée. She didn't used to have that big of a sex drive it wasn't horrible but it wasn't exactly what I wanted. For about the past 3 years she blows or fucks me almost every night. It's probably been about 2 months since I went a full 24 hours without having her drain my balls. So shit can change

>>689772276
I did lots of shit with my girl. But FFM 3SOME almost did in the relationship. Most stuff is overrated. You just want it cuz you think you are missing out from watching all the porn grills doing crazy shit. A loyal sane grill is much better than a crazy trick.

>>689772276
Go to a whore each month

>>689779241
Based anon. Please teach me how to buttfuck my fiancée though. Have tried many times in many position lots of lube or when she is drunk and what not. Still can't seem to get more then just the head in before she can't take anymore

>>689778479
She does but very rarely. With me alone she won't drink more than a glass. If she's with her friends though she sometimes gets drunk but it's never that much.
This kinda pisses me off though. If she's with me and her friends I tend to try to get her to drink more.
But either way, it doesn't change much. Her sex drive doesn't really change when drunk or not. I've tested that enough times to know.

>>689778795
Yeah, I'm very afraid of that, because I've started to feel some resentment already. The thing is, I feel shitty about feeling that way. She doesn't deserve it. But man..... I have some needs she can't fulfill and at teh end of the day that sucks very very badly.

>>689778840
I know, that's one of the roots of the problem... Thanks for the input, dude.

>>689779151
Why did that change happen? Any reason behind it?

>>689779241
I know that a sane girl is better. I don't want to date a slut thought. I just want to have better sex, much better. Not having to wear my gf down for a shot at sex. That's the sucky thing... On one hand I have a loyal very cool gf, on the othr hand she rarely wants to fuck and when we do the sex sucks, while there's tons of girls around who'll give me a MUCH better time.

>>689779621
Lol. Nope.

>>689772276
Fucking hell mate I was in your exact same boat except she had vaginismus or whatever it's called where women's vaginas close off and we couldnt have sex at all.

It was a tough two years and in the end I called it quits. I cheated a couple of times as I couldnt handle being surrounded by so much poon day and night and going home everyday to cuddle time and the occasional lacklustre handjob. Felt like shit though as I really loved her.

>>689780036
Do you regret?
Also, how many time has passed since breaking up?

>>689774162
That is terrible advice. What if it hadn't worked out?!

>>689779927
Sounds like you're not getting her drunk enough. My fiancée and I drink all the time just us 2 and watch funny shit on Netflix. She takes 3 shots of 151 rum mixed in a big cup of OJ. She gets so fucking horny

Stop being such a prick and wasting her time. You're not into her and are taking advantage of her to comfort your own insecurities. No doubt if a hot kinky chick comes onto you you'll be off like a shoot. If you truly value her as a friend man up and let her go now not when opportunity comes knocking which it wIll.

>>689778063
You have to take the lead you beta faggot. She wants you in charge, and her offer is her giving you a nudge to do just that. Jesus christ, do I have to spell it for you!

I give up anon. You come for advice and argue with all of it.

KYS

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>>689780346
Can you read nigga?

Exact same situation as you OP except I decided to put a ring on it. I love her, and i just have to jack off lots to make up for things. I do sometimes have the urge to get a prostitute or something (so that there's zero emotional connection or 'cheating') but so far have decided not to do that.

>>689780160

Well I miss her a lot. She was my best mate and we lived and worked together for a year of the two we were together

But she made zero effort at fixing our situation. We even had a gyno come out to our resort and I had to beg her to ask if she could just even just talk to this woman (getting a dr's appointment was never going to happen). I know we all have our own demons and battles to fight but i was like jfc just try

to answer your question we got together a few times at social events and still had the same issue so it was for the best. she's shagging the hell out of some douche with a smaller dick than me now though

>>689772276

forget the sex: if she isn't willing to try harder in bed when she knows you're not satisfied, why on earth would you consider a long-term relationship? she's clearly being selfish or lazy or both. talk to her about your needs and if she says "nope" then you're not dealing with the nice girl you thought you were.

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Oldfag here, have been in the same situation you youngfags describe.

Would strongly advice all and everyone of you to call it quits. I didn't and what followed was 8 years of pure torture, that in the end turned into a sniper war of back-handed comments and passive aggressiveness.

Don't do that to her (or him for the gayfags and straight femfags among us), don't do it to yourself.

>>689779927
I'm >>689778795
Make sure you at least talk to her about it a few times first. Gauge her reacts, she if she's willing to compromise... if there's strong resistance, you have your answer. Cut it off before you waste more of your own and her time.

There are so many more people in the word to let one thing that REALLY bothers you make you feel like you're stuck.

>sorry to use the fish in the sea phrase, but it's true.

>>689779151
Yes that can happen, but some people are not willing to stick it out that long. I'm sure as hell not going to wait 8 years to get my balls drained.... I have way more options out there to get what I want now, and not later.

You rolled those dice and it worked out for you. Not many people win that roll, my friend.

Ring. Also try to talk to her about it, but don't mention "unsatisfied." Then she'll dump your ass probably.

>>689772276
Leave her

>>689780837
"everything is great, except the sex"

Anon's reply answer said his then gf loved sex and kids killed the drive after marriave. that's not a congruous scenario

>>689772276
>>689778063
>have to "seduce" her

Don't be a beta doing that shit, women dig confidence and dominance. She's most likely not "low sex drive", you're just too shit/predictable/respectful every time
Does she look up to you? Exert some of that power over her, but not in a degrading way. think Khal Drogo from GoT.
And to pull that off, you need to have the physique. Start lifting, and your sex life will improve, basically.

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>>689781512
holy fuck you must be 16 years old.

Come back to a thread like this in a decade when you get a good range of flavors in women under your belt. not every woman fits this "oh he's an alpha male I'm suddenly going to fuck his brains out" mentality.

Good god kids like you are so short sided and have no fucking clue about people.

>>689781512
son, never go full retard

>>689781512
this seems like very one dimensional advice

>>689780520
Lol. Noted.

>>689780643
Well, that's partially true. Thanks for the input.

>>689780724
I'm sick of having to take the lead, dude. I always have to wear her out for something to happen and after that I have to take the lead? I'm sick of making an effort and just want to dick her by then.
And of course I argue with all of the advice. I'm confused, I'm trying to sort it out and I have, somewhat. This has helped me. I don't want to be right or wrong, I just want to know what's the best thing to do taking into account the experience of people here and their advices on my doubts.

>>689780870
I'm 23yo , man, I don't want to jack off for the rest of my life.

>>689780915
Man... Sad story... Thanks for the input, dude.

>>689780990
Thanks for the input.

>>689781023
Yeah, I'm afraid of that too... Thanks for the input, man.

>>689781123
Thanks for the input.

>>689781208
Tried several times...

>>689781309
Thanks for the input.

>>689781512
I'm not a physical alpha, no, and I'm not getting ripped 'cause I don't have money for gym since I'm not yet working and my mom can't afford it. I'm trying to finish Uni (worked 3 years beforehand) to then get a job.
Also, I'm like 5'5, 121lbs and she's like 4'9, around 88lbs.

Deal with it, jerk off sometimes, and accept her.

My Mrs doesn't even do blowjobs unless she's drunk, and has a very low drive, but I love her and my family so I just accept that she's not perfect. Are you perfect?

>>689781123
That's partially true. But she would try anything I wanted at least once. No she does it more often without me asking and with lots of excitement basically over the years she has listened to what I want and tried to give me the best sex because she knows that's what I want. Sounds like your gf doesn't really care what you want. If great sex is important to you she will try harder to make that happen

>>689772276
fap faggot, doesnt matter how great the sex is, after 10 years it will be old and youll be back to fapping anyway

>>689772276
If you can't answer this question you're a BITCH

>>689782463
>>689781023
>Yeah, I'm afraid of that too... Thanks for the input, man.
It's a really hard thing to do. I've had to do a handful of times in my 36 years. This last one was the first. i love her to death, but i knew it was the right thing to do.

Just rip that shit off like a bandaid. It's only a 2 year relationship. You'll get over it fast that you realize.

>>689782463
Just re-read your original post. How often are you getting laid OP?

I know you've been together a while but maybe giving her a facial is something she needs to build up to. It's not like she's complete anti sex is she? I mean at the end of the day you're getting laid right?

>>689772276
Masturbate to pornography.

>>689782463
Do you have a small cock op? Mayb she isn't satisfied and the sex is boring for her too?

>>689782029
I'm 26. I just told the guy to get /fit/ which tends to improve one's confidence and looks and thus overall success in social situations. Like sex with his unsatisfied girlfriend.
And the thing about women craving dominance?
It's monkey-brain stuff, it doesn't have anything to do with what person itself is like. It's not insulting to claim majority of women have these urges, no more than I can be guilty of liking tits and asses.

>>689782686
Yes i understand that. mine didn't want to (and I was a fantastic boyfriend, she would even tell me and felt guilty about it all) which is why I ended it. She just had a low libido and had prior abuse in her youth that even with help, she couldn't get past, so i ended it. I can talk about it callously now, but at the time it was rough and a really hard thing to go through but I needed to do it for my own mental health.

This anon seems to be stuck in the same boat. He needs to, like i suggested, talk to her about it and see what happens. if nothing changes, he should move on. I'm sure you can agree with that.

>>689772276
Explain yourself with music
https://m.youtube.com/watch

>>689782463
You don't have to jack off, just tell her you want to fuck other people. Use prostitutes or one-night stands so you don't develop any emotional attachments.

>>689783635
Stupid thing.. Community Property by Steel Panther.

>>689783368
>unsatisfied girlfriend
You're making an assumption, my friend.

Women don't just magically get turned on because of a fit guy and confidence. There are WAY more reason that it can be the way it is. He needs to talk to her about it.

The way you talk about it, shows me you're still in the "getting laid" phase and haven't really had a sincere long term yet.

The advice you give is great for hooking up on the weekend and having week long flings.

Also if you met another chick with a better sex drive do you think it would be any different 5 years down the line? You'd be back to jacking off.

>>689782674
I'm not perfect but I'm young.
Like, I do everything for her, she does that for me too. But she has a low sex drive and I have high (a least comparing with her). I only fucked 2 girls before (my ex and this gf) 'cause I didn't know best, but now I know and since I got to Uni there's plenty of chicks around that want to get dicked and I need more than I have, sexually. And, like, she has fucked many guys before (although only, like, once or twice with each) before dating me.
I'm 23, dude, I don't want to jerk it off for the rest of my life, that's just sad...

>>689783061
I'm getting laid but she's not into it and thus she doesn't do shit and the sex doesn't satisfy me. It's like jerking off but with her body instead of my hand. Sometimes it's good enough but overall it's just plain boring shit, and being a Uni student, with lots of good pussy around and a hot ex that wants to smash, it just saddens me at the end of the day.

>>689783311
3.5 inches soft, 6.7 inches hard.
I know she doesn't like much our sex. Because when we do it, she had to be wore down. So her sex drive doesn't build up, so the sex sucks for and for me.
Do you think being with her less often will increase her sex drive? Or not really?

>>689783650
If I go fuck other people, she then claims the right too as well, and I don't want that, man. I don't want my gf to get dicked by other dudes... I rather break it up and go fuck girls than dating this one and fuck other girls while she's getting fucked by other dues... Thus why my MFF/MFM threesome problem. She'll only do the first one if I'm willing to do the 2nd one. Which I'm not.

>>689772276
This is my relationship like. I have even tried to cheat on her but I just cant get it up to other bitches.

>>689784451
Just explain to her that if she wants dick she can have yours any time. The reverse is clearly not true.

>>689784451
Honestly if she isn't trying to please you in bed And at least try things you want or just act like she's actually excited to fuck you then I would break it off. A good gf or bf does things they don't want to do because they know it will make their br gf happy

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>>689784451
If she would want to go out and fuck other people, then she doesn't have that low of a sex drive

>>689782463

If the rest of the relationship is golden.. Don't fuck it up over this.

I have a similar situation.
Came to a logical conclusion.. I cheat for the good of my relationship.
We don't fight, we have great chemistry, laugh, love, live, etc.
Best gf I have ever had.
But I need release of a different sort at least once a year. Something different to tide me over. Once I got over the moral dilemma society imposses.. The relationship got BETTER.
I wasn't unfulfilled.. I wasn't pressuring her to do what she doesn't want to either.
Just don't make a habit of it and never get emotionally invested with sluts.
They need to know what they are and accept it. Last one was in the same situation. Bf couldn't satisfy her with kinky shit. We hooked up and got it out of both our systems.
Just NEVER tell her what you need to do.

Works for me.. Good luck to you.

>>689784033
I've been in a relationship for the past 7 years. It devolved to the same point OP describes.
I cracked the code at some point and started lifting. It's all been uphill since. Might be anecdotal evidence, but it's a powerful effect. I get attraction from random women I meet, something that never happened before.

>>689784992
What does that mean though? Break up or continue?

>>689785456
Thanks for the input.

>>689785559
She doesn't say she's hungry for other cock. She just says that if I have the "right" to go out and fuck other chicks then she'll have as well. Also, you know how girls are. If you hurt them enough, they'll do some shit just to piss you off.

>>689785600
That's some cold ass shit, Anon, lol. I don't know if I can do it... Cheating is not in my blood. Especially not multiple times in the back of someone I love a lot.
But I understand what you're saying and it would help me a lot. I just think I have the balls to do it.

>>689785638
Thing is, when me and my gf first met and hung out, my physique was the same as it is now and we fucked better and more often, less "scripted" as well.
Also, am not going to the gym before getting a job. Since I'm still studying, it'll take a while.

>>689785600
So you say you love this girl but you are self centered enough to cheat on her multiple times and if she found out it would probably devistate her. Great advice ass clown

>>689782029
Holy fuck skinnyfat detected

>>689786308
yeah, I recognize the "scripted" thing as well. It's just boring for her if she knows what to expect every time. Catch her unaware or snap her out out of the routine. I bet you only do it in the bed? Just pop a stiffie and fuck her on the couch or something, slap her lightly during doggystyle, something she hasn't experienced a hundred times before.

>>689786308
>>689785600

I fucked up a couple of relationships prior to this because I "wasn't a cheater."

One because I told her what I needed.. She said she understood, I fucked another girl. And yeaaahh she was NOT as okay with it as she thought.

Another because I did it and still had some leftover guilt. Figured something was messed up with my view on relationships.

Know what I learned? The most stable marriages and long term relationships I personally know of contain cheaters.
Friends and coworkers with families, a house and a retirement plan.. Cheaters or sometimes Swingers.

Once I accepted that humans are NOT monogamous by nature, and watched all the couples I knew that struggled as you and I have ultimately fail.. I decided to be an unrepentant physical cheater.
She has my heart.. But I need to satisfy baser desires as all of my forefathers have wether they admit it or not.

>>689787011
Na he is right. You would for sure get more pussy if you are yoked but that's not what this thread is about. If someone loves you for you then size really doesn't matter. I have always been kinda chubby but I played sports in HS so I was at least strong and somewhat fit but then I got a job and put on like 50 pounds over the past 6 years and my fiancée fucks me more then she did when I was in way better shape. And she is amazingly beautiful. At least to me but I'm sure I'm bias. Great body 5'2 120lbs with DDs and a great bubble butt and she fucks my fat ass like I'm a chizzled zac Efron

Having emotionless sex is not the same as being in an actual relationship with another woman. Both are bad but one is MAYBE justifiable if she won't give you any action.

>>689788888
god damn son