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When will Americans wake up and smell the blood soaked coffee?
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When will Americans wake up and smell the blood soaked coffee?
Guns are fucking up your country. The only way to stop the blood shed is to ban guns. It's that simple. Let go of your God damn pride and agree to do the right thing.
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Tits for you op
http://www.streamboobs.com/lady_anal/
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No you fucking retard, ban assault rifles.

>Implying people will just let their guns be taken
>Implying NO ONE having guns means it's impossible to get them
>Implying Republicans will back this
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Here we go blaming the guns again
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But but but amerca
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Oh yeah and how did Banning drugs work out for us
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>>689550550
50 less fags
Sounds like guns are a pretty good thing to me
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If you ban guns and build wall USA will be the safest country in the world.
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>>689550869
This
Lets just make it illegal giyz
Then people will stop!
Murdering 50 people was illegal. Did that stop him from killing them?
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>>689550955
>I'M 14 BUT I'M SO EDGY GUYS LOOK AT ME
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Too many asshole Americans own guns. The only way to stop it is to slowely ween them off them. Guns are like drugs to those crazies.
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>>689551113
Do you think he could kill 50 people with a knife?
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>>689550869
>>689551113
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>>689551129
How about if you didn't like America and the way we handle our country then get the fuck out faggot
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>>689550550
If we banned niggers and sand niggers then our gun deaths would fall below most countries.
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>>689551277
If your "system" works it doesn't matter if they are niggers or ISIS rebels
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>>689551282
I'm pretty sure he could if he was fast enough yes
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>>689550764
What's an assault rifle? There's no legal classification named as such.
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>>689551569
>American Education
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>>689551282
as long as the blade dont break, yes.
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>>689551282
http://www.cnn.com/2014/03/01/world/asia/china-railway-attack/
Not 50 but still a lot.
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I'm not American and I'm pro guns in the US because I like to see them killing each other

Americans are mostly stupid neckbeards and niggers
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>>689551277
True but white people seems to use guns for things like killing their family/selves oh and don't forget the accidental 'kid gets hold of a gun and shoots himself because daddy forgot to lock the gun away after having sex with it". Oh yeah and serial killers, disputing neighbours road rage, Theatres schools.... Churches.
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>>689550550
They drink coffee? Almost time I was served cafe ristretto there, i've got some lame liquid. :/
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>>689551394
It would because smart people won't risk back alley abortions due to their dangerous nature. Also, when they have to kill the baby themselves they will think twice.
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>>689551865
How about you kill yourself
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>>689551789
It took 10 people to stab 29 to death you stupid American nigger
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>>689550550
America is behind the following restrictive Europoor countries in both gun deaths per 1 million population and mass shooting events per 1 million population - finland, norway, slovakia and switzerland, and also the jews in israel.

Game. Set. Match.
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Yes lets leave it up to the law it will protect us for sure because everybody obeys the law
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Wait ppl in other countries don't drink blood coffee? How do you get work done?
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>>689551488
Niggers find a way to get illegal guns no matter what. Sand niggers did so in Paris and niggers do so in Africa.
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>>689550550
It's not pride. It's fear. Americans are afraid of other Americans and their government. It is literally every one of their arguments for having them.

"I need to protect myself and my family"
"I need to fight my government if they come for muh freedoms"
"ISIS is coming to get me"
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>>689552009
>republican logic at work....
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>>689551789
So a few years passed since a knife incident . guns In America it's every day.
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>>689550550
Shit b8 m8
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Determined criminals will find ways to get guns.
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>>689551865
I am an eurofag and I approve of- and second this opinion.
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>>689552244
I need to protect myself from my family.
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>>689550955
>50 less fags
It's 50 fewer; KYS you illiterate clod.
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>>689550550
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>>689552217
It would be more expensive to get if it's illegal which would definitely lower chances of one tard to go on a spree
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>>689550764
Assualt rifles are banned or at least heavily regulated. You cant get a variable fire rifle without a license.
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>>689550550
why do you care? you dont live here.
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>>689551663
Idk what that's supposed to mean. You act like killing multiple people with a knife is impossible.
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>>689550550
You cannot ban guns in America without going full tyrannical. There is literally more guns than people in the US. Even if there somehow managed to be a ban of guns without any type of backlash then guns would just become the new thing that a bunch of people illegally traffic in. There is a high demand for guns in the states, therefore someone is going to try to meet those demands.
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Duck you op.even nazi germany had relaxed gun laws for citizens.
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>>689550550
sure kid. post this ten more times today.
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No white ppl are the reasons why we have all of these shootings not blacks.
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>degenerate sandnigger shoots up a club
>blames guns
whew lad
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>>689550550
No.
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>>689550550
Guns aren't even a big problem. I'm way more worried about our carbon emissions and a billion other much more important issues
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Ban murder
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>>689553576
This. Why the fuck hasn't anyone thought of this before.
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>>689553483
>carbon emissions
So another bullshit thing to worry about
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>>689551922
oh look a tard. how cute a potato that can type.
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>>689553576
You're a genius.
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>>689553849
>existential threat to human civilization
>bullshit
Don't bother, I know you're baiting
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>>689550550
Agreed. Amerifags are idiotic enough without their damn guns. Allowing themselves the freedom to carry is like infecting chimps with the rage virus.
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>>689553576
If it was illegal, no one would do it...
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We trying to sleep, asshole. Who dafuq put blood in de coffee. That the dumbest shit I ever heard. I empty the powder from .50 cal round into my coffee and mix it wit the casing. Chew on the bullet and blow square fucking bubbles out of lead.
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>>689550550
Ah yes, take the guns away from the law abiding citizens. That makes sense. Criminals will always be able to get guns, it's the same with drugs. Just because something is illegal/banned doesn't mean people will stop doing/obtaining it. As everyone's parents must've told their children, Think before you speak.
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>>689554552
Alright you're tough enough. Go on in.
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>>689554914
How u find my picture? On the line?
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How u soak a liquid with another liquid? You ghey and stoopit
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Because we don't really have a problem like the media would have you believe.
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>>689555299
>percentages
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>>689550550
Take your fucktard liberal political agenda and shove it back up your ass.
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>>689554035
Not b8. If you really think it's b8, you're as blind as they want you to be. Now go and rally against plastic grocery bags.
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>>689555735
And?
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>>689555299
Shhhh. You're going to ruin it.
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>>689555853
Example:
Only 0.1% of your brain cells are cancerous
>no reason whatsoever to cure your cancer
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>>689551410
Nobody will admit it for fear of being called a racist, but this anon is probably right.
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hey how about instead of
>ban guns!
vs
>freedom!!

lets have an actual discussion where we try and find a way to mitigate the violence. Does restriction help? i dunno. Does improving the mental health system and society in general help? I'm not an expert. But what definitely doesn't help is picking a side and vehemently fighting for it with stupid strawman arguments and hypotheticals
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>>689555843
Who exactly want me to be blind?
These guys?
Plastic grocery bags ought be banned, and any conscientious human bean should refuse to use them and bring a container from home or unload them by hand.
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>>689556144
Buy a lottery ticket. Outcome either win or lose. 50/50% Right?

Percentages need context.
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>>689555735

> how dare he challenge my opinions with those evil facts!
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>>689556189

The courts gutted the mental health system in the 70s and 80s.

I'm all for restricting convicted felons and those mentally ill that can't be trusted to have guns, but not without due process. We can't strip away a free man's rights because of what he might possibly someday maybe could do. He gets his day in court first.
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>>689550550
Guns aren't the issue bullets are the issue. Its the bullets from the guns that kill people not the guns themselves.I vote for all ammo to be made non lethal in america!!
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>>689556144
Ok. I can play your game.
Only 0.1% of your brain cells are cancerous
>we can cut it out and you will survive but you won't be able to control your bowels anymore. Also if we don't cut it out you will still have the same life you had and die of old age before this affects you in any real way shape or form
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>>689550550
guns don't kill people, cops kill people
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No. I don't even own a gun but I would buy one in order to fight for the rights of those who do if it reached that point.
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>>689556500
Plastic grocery bags are a by-product of petroleum production. Eliminating them does very little of meaning. It just makes you feel good. You can't win the fight you want to fight, so you pick an easier target.

We can have more people living well on earth, or we can have a pristine environment. Pick one and fight for that.
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>>689550550
Okay, I'm gonna lay this down one time for you all, and I'm Australian btw and I don't own a gun.
America cannot and will now ever create strict gun ownership laws or enact a gun buy-back scheme like our government did in the late 90's after the Port Arthur massacre. What was possible in Australia is simply impossible and undesirable in the USA. There are too many illegal firearms out there that gun laws have no effect on, and regular gun-owning Americans will never stand to have their weapons taken from them while there's 10's of thousands of guns in criminal hands that aren't even registered, and nor should they. I wouldn't.
Why debate over something that is impossible? It cannot, will not, ever happen. It is a political and practical impossibility. Even if you managed to say, remove semi-automatic rifles with large-capacity magazines, people who want to commit massacres will still be able to get them, people will even begin to manufacture them themselves and sell them privately.
The horse has bolted. There will never be any significant increase in gun-control in America, it's too late.

I always thought the logical thing was to focus on ammunition control anyway, since reliable ammunition is much harder to manufacture. Maybe stop selling 5.56 NATO rounds on the checkout at Walmart for $1.75 per dozen or whatever it is y'all do.
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>>689556779
I'm not following what parallelism you're trying to make with "control your bowels". Need further explanation to continue
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>>689550550
Let's ban drugs too so no one can use, buy, or sell drugs.
>oh wait, bans don't work
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>>689551579
I'm a liberal but this faggot is objectively correct. You should try not to sound like s retard when you make your arguments.
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>>689551282
Probably even more, in a very crowded area with loud music it would be easy for him to go from target to target because it will cause less commotion then loud bullets being fired. Also he did have a bomb which is illegal also, but luckily he didn't detonate it.
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>>689556990
Plastic bags are a semiprescient pollutant that significantly degrades aquatic and terrestrial environments. They are also unneeded, everyone has a bag already. It does nothing but serve consumerism.
>we can have a pristine environment or more people on the planet.
Wrong, human civilization is in no way possible without nature. That's the limiting factor for humanity. If we do not consider our impact on the natural world that we receive everything from we will crash and burn.
A pristine environment is essential for civilization and the quality of human life
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Banning guns would just disarm the good citizens while giving the criminals more overall power. By the way, that bar was a gun free zone yet it didn't stop that crazy mudslime from going in with his and bombs are illegal too yet he had one on him.
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>>689557623
I reload my own ammunition. I haven't bought store ammo in several years. I can buy stuff to build my own bullets as well. The parts that need to be controlled are the primers and powder.

But that said the way to do it is like what they did with the Hughes Amendment. Ban the sale of them. Then they will slowly to away by attrition. It'll take more than 100 years, but it'll happen.

That said I'm not really for any restrictions. We've got 300 million people. We can spare some to violence.
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Let em keep their fuckin guns until no fuckmericans are left
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>>689550550
I think the Team America came up with the best answer to all the whys of the US

"How many times are you going to make the same mistake?"

"As many times as it takes"
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>>689551410
This anon is absolutely right, and it's important to cite your sources.
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>>689557811
It's like this. Either I leave it in and live the same all the way up to my old age death and keep from shitting myself as long as possible. Or let them cut it out, go through decades of horseshit involving treatment. Jump through hoops to maintain my previous quality of life and even then it'll never be the same, oh and also now I can't stop shitting myself. No thanks.
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>>689550550
How does it feel to be an Eurocuck?
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>>689550764
>Ban assault rifles
Anybody who was around for the 1994 Assault Weapons Ban could tell you that it did absofuckinglutely nothing for crime
I mean, for fucks sake the North Hollywood Shootout happened in 1997, during the ban and those guys had not only "Assault Weapons" but ones that were converted to full auto
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>>689551922
>le bad white people meme
Meanwhile
>13% of the population
>37% of all homicides
https://www.census.gov/quickfacts/
https://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2014/crime-in-the-u.s.-2014/tables/expanded-homicide-data/expanded_homicide_data_table_3_murder_offenders_by_age_sex_and_race_2014.xls
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>>689558719
Nigger that doesn't even make any sense. Who kills the last one?
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>>689558081
Alright faggot. I said 'more people living well' not 'more people on the planet'.

And insofar as you're prone to simple arguments, you've made my point.

>A pristine environment is essential for >civilization and the quality of human life

You've got to balance the two. Grocery bags are going to require a change in a massive number of individuals' daily routines. Education campaigns, local law lobbying, redneck holdouts. Huge effort, minor change.

Find a job closer to home even if it pays less. Pamper your own ass less in a hot shower. Those individual actions won't make you feel better, and they're probably harder to accomplish but they'll sure help more.

The environmental movement is filled with straw men like this.
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>>689553483
Then quit breathing, dumb ass.
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>>689559622
Well if it's a white mass shooter he kills himself obviously.
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>>689559955
>require a change in a massive number of people's routines
So it's okay to trash the system that feeds us.
Plastic bags negativity impact ecosystem function and therefor human life. Especially in marine communities. The cost are far more than the benifits.
Every year Americans throw away 100 billion plastic bags. I live and work on a 10 acre farm. You have to be conscientious about every impact you make on the system that sustains us.
The problem with the environmentalist movement is lack of grassroots activism and mainstream support due to retards like you on both sides that believe in a false dichotomy of man and nature.
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ask the people of stalinist russia how well disarmerment worked out for them
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>>689550550
I don't even own a gun and I think banning guns is stupid. You don't ban them, it'll just push it into the black market. Instead make it fairly easy to obtain a gun but you have to provide ID, get a background check against a national registry, and have a 1-3 week cooling-off period.

The people who want guns will always find a way to get them. The people who shouldn't have guns will hopefully be stopped by a better background check system.

If you combine this with a government run health-care system with mandatory checkups and free psychological help then even more crazies can be prevented from getting guns.

Overt is never the right way, always go with subtlety or the peasants will notice.
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>>689556587
this anon gets it
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>>689561854
UK banned guns, seems to work over there. Canada has tight restrictions of gun ownership. Definitelya lot less gun Incidents there.

I can't Beleive how blind you Americans are. Selfish is all I can say.
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>>689556189
we need a shift in the american mind set. Particularly in the black communities. As it stands people value each other less and less every day. they just want to get "what's mine."

We need to overhaul our education system and retool it to better engage the disenfranchized youth of today.
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>>689561854
People will still find way to get guns. The only difference is, if you make then harder to obtain a whole lot less people will try to obtain them. Your point is invalid in so many ways.
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>>689561341
I didn't know Stalinist Russia was a democracy
Ask Australia how it went for them.
And I'm not even in favor of disarmament
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>>689556500
this is a chart on every political topic ever lef and right. just replace the names. it's the basic frame for modern politik.
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>>689550550
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>>689550550
Fuck you were going to make America great again
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>>689563303
you can get a 20$ hand gun in the UK on the deep web easily. just sayin.
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>>689563998
By shooting it full of lead
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>>689551113
Strawman argument is autofail
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>>689563303
>UK banned guns
But Niggers still Gonna Nig.
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People arguing that X shouldnt own guns are effectively stating Y shouldnt have guns. X are fine.
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>>689564028
And most people are too dumb to even understand what the deep Web is. So still less people trying to obtain guns. Are you so stupid to nit understand that. LOGIC
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>>689563809
No that's a chart of organized climate denial, it's well documented
https://books.google.com/books?hl=en&lr=&id=RsYr_iQUs6QC&oi=fnd&pg=PA144&dq=organized+climate+change+denial&ots=r5QG01sa5F&sig=A_I_uu4fL3IhMqeuKJFq7W3wTkM#v=onepage&q=organized%20climate%20change%20denial&f=false
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>>689563303
you're jealous we can have our guns how will banning guns from law abiding citizens stop criminals? Fucking liberals I don't get how retarded you can be criminals will get guns fucktard what's so hard to understand?
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>>689564216
How many of these were fatal.
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>>689552279
Because everyone knows guns are better then knifes at most everything
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>>689561263
I don't believe in the false dichotomy of nature. I don't believe it's ok to trash the system that feeds us.

And fuck you for making me say it, because the SJWs stand a better chance than environmentalists. A grassroots campaign isn't going to do shit if the plebs are against it, and the straw man arguments are there for exactly that reason: to give you a pointless task.

On your deathbed, when you look back on your life of envirofawning and realize it didn't do shit to change energy policy in places where material aspirations are rising, who will you bitch at then?

Pick your battles.
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>>689564528
Except it's not criminals doing this shit. It's everyday people who get mad one day. Amerca
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>>689564295
if someone wants a fucking gun they will fucking get one you libtard don't even say they don't know how to. I can buy drugs over the deepweb and I have never seens drugs in my life so again ill say it slow. If someone wants a gun, they. will. get. one.
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>>689564354
And you trotted it out in response to someone who isn't a climate change denier, making an argument about how environmentalists are spinning their wheels and making themselves feel better.
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>>689564657
>fuck you for making me say it, because the SJWs stand a better chance than environmentalists
With that attitude
>plebs aren't on board
Grassroots is for plebs by plebs
>who will you bitch at then
The people that spent their lives doing nothing because they don't get every individual effects society.
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>>689554100
You can have my gun, when you pry it from my cold dead finger. But before you do that, just remember, we got more nukes then you, which you will also have to pry from my cold dead fingers
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>>689550550
Banning guns will keep guns out of the hands of law abiding 3d printers, but criminal printers will keep printing guns until they are completely filling up your ass, faggot.
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Liberal logic: we need more gun free zones to prevent shootings and massacres that happen in gun free zones

Conservative Logic: we need more law abiding citizens to have guns and no more gun free zones so armed citizens can kill the shooter before he can kill someone.

Which one will work? average cop response time is 6 minutes I can kill a lot of people in 6 minutes even with a revolver...
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>>689563589
I'm not saying banning or even making them that much harder to get. It's literally:

>Walk into gun store
>Pick out gun
>Clerk gives you a 1-2 page form to fill out
>You pay either all or a percentage of the gun's price (depends on how individual sellers want to do it)
>Seller holds onto the gun while they run your form through the national database/background check system
>After 4-21 days of "cooling off"(depending on what the actuarial data supports) the gun is ready for pickup
>On pickup you receive a licence card for that particular firearm with it's serial number, registration number and your name and home address.
>In order to legally carry the firearm on non-private property you must carry said card with you.

If you wanted to transfer a gun's ownership you'd need to take it to a registered gun seller and the buyer would fill out the same form as above plus a rider that says it's being transferred, maybe a nominal ($25-50) fee.

Now, how is that invalid? It keeps felons and crazies away from guns, it keeps resellers from buying guns from legitimate sellers and putting them on the black market.
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>>689550955
le lel of truth
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>>689564801
And yet you still dont get my point. Just another Blind refusing to listen refusing to change American. You're the kind of person that is making america a third world country. I mean looking from the out side, you guys do look like a third world country to everybody else.
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>>689565065
>And you trotted it out in response to someone who isn't a climate change denier
>>689555843
>Not b8. If you really think it's b8, you're as blind as they want you to be. Now go and rally against plastic grocery bags.
u sure?
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>>689565182
I got my muzzle-loader when I paid for it no wait time or anything but then again it's a one shot deal so hard to kill with it no wait time or anything
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>>689565134
>we need more gun free zones
so its easier to arrest the people who DO have guns, so they wont shoot the other people who DONT have guns.

if a criminal is the problem, hes easily pre-empted if you catch him with a gun on his person. because guns would be illegal, and so owning one would get him landed in jail. BEFORE he had the chance to use it on YOU.
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>>689563589

They tried that in australia, Gun crime went down, Indeed, but all other crime went up.

His, and your points are invalid.

Whats next? make it harder to get knives or bats, or frying pans,
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>>689565083
Special snowflake detected
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>>689550550
Without guns you'd get something like Bataclan in France. Guns aren't the issue, pisslam is.
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>>689564801
no ill say it slow.

they. can. already. get. one. if. they. want. to.
so your logic of "well if theyll still be getting them so why even bother trying to save our children from mass shootings?" is fucking ridiculous.

people have access to that shit now, here and abroad. and other countries dont have this problem as badly as we do. hopefully this will sink in because its the last time im babystepping you conservacucks through this flaw in your thought process. ive got shit to do today.
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>>689565761
Is it hard?
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>>689565718
Whered you get those stats?
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>>689557623
They enacted gun buy-back system in L.A. no questions asked, just walk up and sell them weapon. You silly non-American
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>>689565314
people get drugs one way or another so will they with guns. Why the fuck should I give up my guns for the acts of some retarded muslim? or the because other countries are doing it? every country that's allied with america is so small and would be fucked since they got us and their military to save their asses in america you got the military plus a shitload of citizens with guns itching to kill terrorists or invaders. You can't invade america since we have the military + a shitload of gun owners
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>>689565314
>looking from the out side
Keep it that way, faggot.
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http://millerreport.us/mary-jordan-and-sammie-whaley/docs-ashley-england-mary-jordan-sammie-whaley/
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>>689550550
>Let go of your God damn pride and agree to do the right thing
that's not the american way damnit
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>>689565432
Yes, I am. Read up.
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>>689550550
but then the mexicans will take our jobs and hookers
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>>689565314
>you look like a third world country.

Not knowing the definition of "third world country".
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>>689550550
I just don't get what difference it makes to faggots in third world countries.
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>>689565850
I'm not sure, ask him.
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>>689565872
How many did they get?
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>>689550550
What are the gun laws like in France?
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>>689559622
The police as he has comitted murder, a lot of murder
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>>689551116
Kys faggot
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>>689565544
I can bring a gun anywhere no plastic sign is gonna stop me but I won't since I don't wanna get in trouble. Criminals and shooters don't give a shit since most commit suicide anyway
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>>689566018
Even if you are not a climate denier that wasn't apparent until afterwards. Anyways, the picture was more of an ad on to
>who are they exactly
That question was never answered
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>>689566126
I am him, I'm asking you
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>>689557623
One correction you should consider: Americans will never stand to have their weapons taken from them if there was zero guns in criminal hands.
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There was literally nothing wrong on the gun side of the Orlando shooting.
What's actually wrong is governments not taking radical islam seriously. It's done tons of damage over the past 2 decades and its basically allowed to run rampant.
I fear Islamic internment camps may be necessary. Not because every Muslim is bad, but because there's a select few that ruin it for everybody else.
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>>689565831
I say arm the fucking teachers if sandy hook had some staff with guns there wouldn't be many dead kids since the teacher would kill the shooter arm. the. teachers. so because they can get guns illegally means I should give mine up?
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>>689566431
Ok, Is what hard?
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>>689550869
Did no one pay any attention to this guy??
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>>689566529
It
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>>689550550
Guns don't kill people.
People kill people.
It are those people that should be stopped.
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>>689552180
the slightest idea that a [particularly NW] European country is anywhere close to the US for gun deaths is beyond absurd, failing the giggle test without the need for even the crudest form of research.

but fwiw -
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_firearm-related_death_rate
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>>689566665
One off
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>>>689562211
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>>689565831
I'll say it slow to you moron

Less peeeeoople will want to obbbbtaaaaaiiin guns if it became more of a chaaaaaalenge. Everyday people are owning guns and using them out of anger or revenge, accidents. everyday citizens don't save people from being killed by mass murderers. And the shooter always offs himself in the end anyway. That or the authorities take him out. I'm all for authorities to have guns. This is about everyday people.
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>>689550550
How do you get rid of the millions of guns in this country already? Banning will cause more problems than it will fix
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>>689566805
It's literally easier to help the mentally ill instead of trying to fix gun laws
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>>689550767
It certainly makes it easier for crazy people to kill people more efficiently. Especially with how easy it is to obtain them in the US. I bought a five seven at a gun show in Washington state all I needed was ID and cash walked out same day.
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We should make meth illegal too
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>>689552244
it is fear. As an American who had used firearms three times to defend family and property, I have only done so out of fear.

I have also taken fire, and taken guns from others on several occasions. I've never fired a shot at a person, nor ever been shot.

Guns are a reality, and you eurocucks should have them, like the Swiss do. Since the Swiss have no niggers to defend against, their gun crime rates are very low, even though their gun ownership is similar to America's.

Now that we can just print them, there's no way to ban them. It's just the reality, so deal.
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>>689550550
Shill much? Paid to post same drivel..same day..
sand niggers are responsible... not guns..
How about you whine about getting the sand niggers removed?
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>>689566319
So in that sense, child molesters won't obey a plastic sign that says "Women only". So why give a fuck which bathroom people use? No one's really listening, are they?

Is that the logic you comfort yourself with when your children are gunned down in their classrooms? You cared more about where trannies shit than you did about Sandy Hook, you hypocritical fucks.
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It's not up to our government if guns are banned or not. They never will be banned. We keep guns to stop tyrannical government from stomping us to shit. Guns aren't going anywhere...no matter how many shit threads you europigs post.
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>>689550550
No thanks, I'm good.
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Start shooting yourselves with smaller calibre bullets to build up an immunity to larger ones. Tah dah.
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>>689567107
If that is a human then I'm not human. I'm out. I'll just call myself Homo novus and move the fuck on.
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>>689564560
Who gives a fuck how many were fatal?

You know, not all gun shots are fatal. And actually, you have a damn good chance of being shot and living if you get to a hospital. If you get stabbed, lol not so much. You'll fucking bleed out before the EMTs get there.


>>689550550
OP, nice bait. Seriously. Been starting these threads for a while now.

The solution to gun violence, is not to get rid of guns, but to make it mandatory that everyone have one and train with it.
Also, adequate mental health care, good social welfare systems, etc. This will reduce problems as a whole.


"Guns, abortions, and a minimum income for everyone!" --Anon for President
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>>689550550
This is a daily b8 thread. It's a constitutional right to have a gun, and nobody is able to remove the big 10.
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>>689550550
Then we'd end up like europe, flooded with shitskins trying to take over our land
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What baffles me about the Florida tradgedy is how a club full of MEN let a si gle shooter kill 50 and injure 50 more before he was stopped. Why was he not rushed. Why were not tables, chairs, bottles, bodies thrown at him. Where all the guys screaming pansies ... oh ya it was a gay bar. And to think were supposed to embrase and fully welcome gays in the military lol ... ya sure.
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>>689556500
Fuck you! I recycle those grocery bags as trash bags. If I didn't get them for free, I'd have to buy plastic bags to put my garbage in.

You are dumb.
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>>689551070
If you don't mass kill yourselves before that
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>>689567906
>2016
>having garbage
What's being cucked by consumerism like?
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>>689556587
Due process really doesn't exist in America anymore, as well over 90% of trials end in plea bargain, and it is quite common for people who are innocent to take a plea, just to get out of jail.

I know.
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>media gives fuck loads of attention to crazy people that shoot a bunch of people
>other crazy people think it's a good idea to go do the same
>other crazy people get famous for murdering dozens
>cycle repeats
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>>689567402
Is that an airsoft rifle? Or is that actually a plastic AR lower?


I happen to think that the plastic AR lowers look cool, and it's a sweet idea. I particularly want a translucent blue one.

I forget, was there some restriction about them? Didn't they have to have like, a metal plate glued to them to be legal? Or was it that the whole gun had to have at least some metal on it?
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I'm sure you'll all agree; the poor, working class, and minorities need easy access to firearms, so they can defend themselves from police, military and other authorities. And, eventually, they'll need these firearms to dismantle capitalism, and seize control of the means of production. We need the best guns available. Nothing's too good for the working class!
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>>689564354
literally replace the names of the organizations and it fits any topic politically in the last 20 years.
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>>689558081
I don't have a half dozen grocery bags, which I need when I shop, so need the bags my groceries are packed in.

Also, I REUSE the grocery bags. It's not rocket science. If I didn't use the grocery bags for garbage bags, I'd have to buy plastic garbage bags, like you do.

why don't we just ban plastic garbage bags, so all you compleat fucktards that buy them will be forced to use grocery bags to bin your trash?

You fucking eedeeots! i've actually moved from towns that banned plastic garbage bags, because of that.
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>>689551282
What about a fucking homemade bomb?
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>>689568436
Duh, political movements are systems. It's the parties involved and the goal that make this a conspiracy.
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>>689568729
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>>689564295
Well geewillikers you're right! It can't possibly be that they have a different set of values and ideals than us, not in the slightest. It's GOT to be the guns. Some how just existing in a certain shape metal makes people want to kill people.
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>>689567662

"I told them that 2000 years ago..."
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>>689550550
>ban guns
>citizens give guns away
>criminals dont give a fuck because criminals
you see where this would go, right?
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>>689568642
What I do all the time because I always forget is just opt out of bags and put them in my trunk by hand then I put them in a box and carry whatever inside, it's not hard. Fatty?
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>>689568676
Or a Buick? He could just as easily driven through a kindergarten class at recess.
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>>689567402
Lol at your airshit
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>>689561263
No, the problem with the environmental movement is the environmentalists. Most of them are retarded and haven't taken a shower in weeks.

Also, you. Just recycle. It works. Why do people throw away perfectly good trash bags, and buy brand new plastic trash bags? O_o
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>>689566096
Oh sorry, you looks like the shittiest part of Africa meant. Or Afghanistan.
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>>689556587
Felon here. It is completely illegal for me to even hold a gun. Could I get one if I wanted to? Not from any legal method but yes I could.
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>>689564176
What strawman? This argument is not a strawman. It is an ironman.

Bans create black markets, and black markets are controlled by criminals. They NEVER eliminate what is banned. Never have, never will.

The argument you dismissed is totally valid, and utterly dismisses your stance.
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You fucks. Had he walked into a bar with a clientele that believed in gun rights, he may have gotten a couple shots off before he was stopped. But that club was the embodiment of everything you SJW liberal faggots want America to be.
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>>689565112
bait or not, people like this are the problem.
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>>689550550
Why do you care
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>>689561854
>>689565182
So nobody has given a counter argument other than "shut up fag" so... I guess I win.

Good game everybody.
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>>689564779
No, its niggers dumbass
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>>689569169
I don't know, I actually use most plastic waste for building materials and have compost. I grow most of my own food aswell. I know many people don't have that option. But mitigating your waste through conscientious consumerism is possible for almost all Americans. Why even use trash bags?
Like I said there are retards on both sides.
Environmentalism needs to be presented in a rational way as a human issue. Polarizing rhetoric needs to be avoided, which is made difficult by the apparent prejudice against environmentalism by some members of society.
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