>>689351470
Weak troll bullshit. No democrat is voting for Trump because of one shooting. But a lot of us are seriously thinking about it because Shillary fucking cheated her way to the nomination.

>>689351470
Too late to change party's fag.

>>689352340
...the fuck are you talking about? Primaries are over. In the general election you can vote for whoever you want, you don't even have to be registered to a party.

>>689352458
Trololololol

>>689352135
>because Shillary fucking cheated her way to the nomination

So if she hadn't cheated you WOULD consider voting for her?

Wow! Just Wow. You are fucking retarded then. I think you are exactly the millennial I described earlier; not a clue about what is going on in this country culturally and socially.

Obama has gone AWOL on the Islamic threat and we're looking at a future where 9/11's could be happening again.

This country needs a rethink on immigration but also on Islam, integration and society.

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>>689351470
>"Too many millennials/liberals are quite happy to see innocent people die in the meantime."
>Nope
We want actual gun control. If you're against that then you're happy to see dozens of fellow Americans massacred like they were in Orlando and that means you're just as bad as the terrorists that hate this country.

Im a democrat and I will be voting for Trump too. Fuck Hillary!

I lost my job running CNC machinery in a factory because the operation was moved to the Dodge factory in Saltillo, Mexico.
So, yeah fuck Hillary and the dems, they did nothing to try and save jobs like mine.

>>689353028
>We want actual gun control.

Omar Mateen had legal gun licences, and was on a FBI watchlist and STILL managed to kill 50+ people.

How is your 'gun control' going to stop that from happening again?

>>689351470
>If Hillary wins, I'm leaving the country.
Canadian here. You won't be let in. We don't need the dregs of American society here. Stay in Kentucky or Mississippi or whichever shit states you Trumpies are unfortunate to live in.

Thanks.

>>689352340
Political newfag detected, you can vote for anyone in the general election cum bucket

ITT: People who don't understand how American politics govern.

>>689353174
I would hope that it's going to make it so that suspected terrorists can't just buy military grade weapons at the drop of a hat.

>>689353078

Oh boo fucking hoo. You picked a job that makes you easily replaceable and got replaced. You sound like fucking detroit. "Oh no! I put all my eggs in one automotive basket and now it fell through! It's everyone elses fault!"

>>689353028
Yeah because gun control always stops terrorists....

They would never fill up a truck with fertilizer and diesel fuel to make a bomb or hijack a plane and use it as a missle...

More people die from cigarettes and yet I still see they are legal too.

>>689352789
>So if she hadn't cheated you WOULD consider voting for her?

Yeah.

If the DNC had run this primary the same way they did in 2008 and she had legitimately won, then I would've voted for her. The only reason I've looked as deeply into her background as I have int he past year is because of all the bullshit they pulled to thwart Bernie.

That said, Hillary loves throwing wars in the Middle East, so what are you worried about?

>>689353374

You know how often they regulate cigs compared to guns? A lot.

>>689353374
Not always, but this guy was a suspected fucking terrorist and he was still able to purchase multiple weapons. If that's not fucked up I don't know what is.

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>>689353078
>My job got outsourced!
>As a protest I'm voting for a man that outsourced thousands of jobs to China!
>Murican logic.

>>689353028
If you actually think that gun control is a way to save lives, then you should legitimately kill yourself.

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>>689353028
>If you're against that then you're happy to see dozens of fellow Americans massacred
>you're just as bad as the terrorists

Remove guns from the equation and terrorists would just use bombs, vehicles, gas, knives, poison etc. hell maybe even airplanes..

You're right guns are too easy to acquire, however this guy was legally entitled to them, not mentally ill, no significant criminal history but still wasn't noticed.

Also, criminals will always be able to acquire guns.

Removing guns won't stop terrorism, removing Muslims will.

Look, I'm not gonna lie; I don't give a shit about Orlando. I do not give a shit. It didn't happen to me, it didn't happen near me, it didn't involve anyone I personally know, so I'm not gonna pretend to get all brokenhearted and butthurt about some random asshole perforating some random faggots just to earn some imaginary internet points. Florida is as far away from me as France.

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>>689352705
where do you newfags come from
oh yeah

Hmmm.. you are right, it is all my fault, I should have gone to college and gotten a degree so I could work at Starbucks or Abercrombie and Finch, since those are the only jobs soon to be left...

Fuck You Cocksucker...

>>689353478
Really? Try buying a gun in California..

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>>689351470

>>689353223
No one wants to move to you, Canada. Your PM Justin Trudeau is so cucked that he apologized for an event tha occurred hundreds of years ago.

>>689353174
Lol youre a fucking idiot. With gun control he wouldnt have had a gun license. The FBI did have him on a watchlist but they cant do shit because there isnt any gun control.

>>689353514
> completely ignores the fact that Democrats have been in power for almost a decade and the economy is still shit.

>>689353607
>I don't give a shit about Orlando. I do not give a shit. It didn't happen to me, it didn't happen near me

This guy must really love his country.

Millennials are the death of america

>>689353514
Thats not the standard MAGA hat you fucking autist. They only sell red, and all of those are made in the USA.

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Let's all hope for a better future...

>>689353756
Given the choice between Trudeau, Trump or Hillary I'd vote Trudeau.

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>>689353223
Canadian here.
Sorry about this guy.

>>689353514
Trump hats are made in USA though. That's fake.

Stupid millennial.

>>689353798
>With gun control he wouldnt have had a gun license

So gun control = nobody is allowed guns?

That isn't going to work buddy, security guards are allowed to have guns legally.

>>689353798
Huh? This has to be bait as even on /b/, no one is actually this fucking dense

>>689353492
If he was a suspected terrorist why wasnt he arrested or detained?

Because if they picked him up for suspected terrorism, without actually doing anything, people like you would criticize the FBI for being racist and being Islamophobes... so insread nobody did anything until it was too late.

>>689353817
Some faggots actually believe this. The economy is way better than under bush and it drives you crazy it was a nigger who did it.

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>>689353817
>Thinks voting for Trump will fix the economy.
>Forgets about the countless times Trump has been bankrupted.

>>689353887
Then youre obviously a lost cause

>>689353887
Given the choice, you'd also suck a meaty cock. No surprises here.

>>689351470
And while I agree that strength is necessary in this fight I really don't think Trump is it. He is just a blow hard who is good at getting people rattled up. I don't think he is the answer to anything.

>>689353492

He was investigated multiple times by the FBI yes, but at the time that he purchased the guns he was't currently they had dropped all investigation and deemed it incunclusive. He was also a security guard and had a firearm license through work. He's kind of in a gray area, but I agree it is fucked up.

>>689351470
It's a good thing the majority of people aren't fooled by your false logic. Also..
>Proud democrat
I call bullshit. You're just another republican hate and fear monger.

>>689354011
Its not like they do any research aside from "GRAAA DEMOCRATS BAD!"

>>689353633
Well if you had gotten a degree you would know most retail and food service jobs don't require them you working class cuck.

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>>689353174
Wow

Even for self-defence purposes you don't need a gun that fires more than one well aimed round to defend yourself/others. Having a clip of around 3 rounds is all you need if you suck.Having weapons that fire hundreds of rounds a minute with enormous, armor piercing rounds only exist to either shoot at non-live targets or multiple live targets. Shooting at multiple live targets is called mass murder. These kinds of guns should be kept strictly for recreational purposes (i.e. non-live target shooting) and should be monitored and locked away by a third party authority to keep it that way.

Think it's about time we all woke up and seriously considered banning these killing machines. No civilian in their right mind needs an assault rifle.

Columbine.
Geneva County.
Fort Hood.
Aurora.
Sandy Hook.
Fort Hood TWICE!
Now Orlando.

Enough is enough.

>>689354066
But he and Hillary are our only two choices... we can only hope if he is elected he gets good people around him to run things.

>>689353996
LOL no its not. Get out of your mother's basement sometime kiddo.

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>>689354011
lol who told you that Anderson Cooper?
do you know how many businesses trump owns
he never claimed personal bankruptcy just on the business that failed when you have that many it happens they don't all succeed you stupid millennial Hillary cuck

>>689351470

Dude.

Hillary is going to bomb the shit outbid them just like Obama.

More troops, defense contracts, all that jazz.

Chill. Muslim's gonna be dying.

>>689354011
He declared bankruptcy as a financial strategy to stop losing money. He has hundreds of other businesses all across the country that are earning him millions of dollars per year. Two businesses in the shithole of NJ going bankrupt doesnt mean that he will cripple our economy.

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Wah! Millennials!

Well im a bernie supporter who is now voting for hillary because of you fucking internet trolls over and over have to post up trump,

>>689353798
Actually YOURE the idiot. The FBI couldn't do anything because every time a rag head gets questioned you fucking morons cry racist.
The guy used an illegal gun to kill people that could not shoot back. Had they been able to shoot back there would have been far less dead people.
Stop being a fucking government shill

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>>689351470
Nice knee-jerk reaction

But if destroying your country is how you want to stomach Islam go for it, I'm sure ISL would love to see the US collaps and Trump is just the guy to do it.

http://www.cnbc.com/2016/05/06/donald-trump-on-us-debt.html

http://www.cnn.com/2016/05/10/opinions/trump-debt-louis/

Hope it's worth it.

>>689354236

Ok dad. Never mind the actual facts I guess. Go trump right?

>>689354011
>Countless times
4 times retard. Go ahead and look up how many successful businesses he has

Then please kill yourself.

>>689354324
If you honestly belive this shit, you should strongly consider suicide.

>>689354353
typical millennial
chooses president because of "internet trolls"
aka people with different opinions

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Low testosterone losers make me sick. Such feeble minds so easily manipulated by what theyre told is right on tv and facebook. its SAD!

Fortunately the voice of our God Emperor is loud...

>>689353492
>ban moderate muslim from buying guns legally
>moderate beheader now knows he's on a watchlist
>moderate jihadi buys guns illegally
>religion of peace claims 50+ more lives and govenment loses tax dollars
>????
>Wall

>>689353996
This is a classic example why I could never be a democrat. You project your own inadequacies on the "other side". Racism, incompetence, intolerance, etc.
The economy is shit, Obama has failed miserly in all aspects of his presidency, the "progressive" model has failed. No amount of projection can change these things. You and your other leftist buddies live in a world of delusion and self-hate.

>>689353028
What is gun control? If they are able to legislate and control one right, what stops them from regulating all the others? Where does it end? It will start here and end with you going to jail for saying mean things.

>>689354408

Listen.

I'm all for carrying, but gun control doesn't go into this.

It was packed there. Had anyone responded with a pistol (likely Al they would have) it's not very likely they would have been effective against the guy with an assault rifle and a grenade, or worse, they would have just expedited deaths by shooting bystanders running all around.

More guns would have made any difference, for good or bad, the guy was shooting fish in barrel, give a few of the fish guns and all the other fish are still in the way.

>>689354543
You got us pegged alright. Tell your friends working at the piggly wiggly you won on the internet.

>>689354470
>Nice knee-jerk reaction

As opposed to liberals who DON'T REACT when terrorist massacres happen on their streets!

You think Islam is gonna get bored and leave the West alone?

Just like in OP's post - millennials are too clueless about TAKING ACTION and would rather sign a petition or tweet #GayLivesMatter instead of actually doing something FOR THEIR COUNTRY.

>>689354476
You have no idea what the real world is like do you kiddo?. I almost forgot it's summer.

>>689354672
>a gun wouldnt have stop it
Maybe not, but it could have helped. You cant speculate and call it truth

>>689353961
>huh? What? Is this really? I mean you couldnt seriously? Im just gonna stutter and? Fuck you nigger

>>689351470
Thank you for finally not being stupid and seeing the light

>>689353028
>Think back on history
>War on drugs
>Prohibition days
>Shit was still around during those times
>gun control
>guns will still be around
>people will kill if they wanna kill.

>>689354520
This. You fucking millennials need to grow some balls and think for yourselves.

>>689353028
I notice this idiot poster hasn't responded once to any of the legitimate arguments made against him.

>>689354543
Rightists are mostly dedicated religiously. And we're delusional?

>>689354672
Entirely based on the assumption the people with the guns would be in the back..

Automatic weapons empty extremely quickly. A hand gun, or several would have given the dead people a chance .. As it was they had no chance.
There is even a repot that some other rag head was holding the door so no one could leave... They could have shot him..
Gun control is just a catch phrase for disarm the public. So YOU can't defend yourself from crime or from the government.

Its bush fault for bombing the middle east, its trumps fault for his anti muslim policies, if were gonna ban muslims for this than less ban white men aswell, because there was a man on his was to gay pride in santa monica with an arsenal

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>>689353028
Children these days.

>>689353223
From America: you can fuck right off. Nobody wants your shitty cucked culture anyway

>>689355142
They caught him though huh?

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>>689351470
>Proud democrat here but after last night and recent events will definitely be voting Trump for President.
go away trump shill

>>689351470
IT WAS NOT A TERRORIST, you dumb shit! Just a normal, twisted, gay-hating asshole.

>>689354737
>join Internet argument
>get wrecked
>get feelings hurt.

Enjoy being butt-hurt kiddo. It's gonna happen a few times this summer.

Nice damage control btw.

>>689354940
Yet all you guys do is post shit trump said, your not even republicans your just a fag for trump

>>689353223
>Canadian here. You won't be let in.

Lost hard. I wouldn't step foot into Canada, enjoy the Muslim invasion

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>>689355165
>American
>Judging the culture of other countries.
Topkek

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>>689351470
>If Hillary wins, I'm leaving the country.
buh bye take that liar Rush Dimballs with ya

>>689354011
>countless times
>its 4
>out of over 100 businesses
>Well above the normal failure rate
Dude... Stop falling for bullshit propaganda and open your fucking eyes..

>>689355039
He probably got his feelings hurt and pussied off like a true millennial.

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>>689354207
Nice imaginary numbers.

>>689355142
Holy fucking shit, do you even speak english?

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>>689353857
>>689353899
but his entire clothing line is made in China
faggots

>>689355125

If they were in the front they would've died first.

If they had more security there with guns, the patrons wouldn't be allowed to carry inside.

This was not a stick up.

The guy entered shooting. He was about killing. That is not a situation where firing back would save lives because the target wouldn't even be visible, and the target doesn't care either.

>>689354835

>Maybe not, but it could have helped. You cant speculate and call it truth

So you can? It's not speculation that he had superior firepower to anything the Yb would carry and line of sight would be a problem for anyone else but him. He doesn't care about hitting other people, but you should, and it would be inevitable in that situation, that isn't acceptable.

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>>689355280
go away Hilary shill
see that can work both ways

>>689355282
>IT WAS NOT A TERRORIST

>Kills 50 civilians
>Allies with Isis
>Extreme muslim family and lifestyle

>Not a terrorist

Liberal logic in 2016 America

>>689354835
Really you have no argument. Youre not jason bourne, you wouldve shot into a crowd of scattering people and inevitably wounded or killed someone else. The argument for gun use often implies trust in the human ability to use one precisely. My problem lies in the lack of trust for that. I really do not believe (even though natural thought patterns oblige us to feel this way in order to survive and think well of ourselves) that humans are precise enough to carry around handcannons. This is why the believe it only hurts more than it helps. A sort of overestimating of human capabilities

>>689355282
The man called 911before the shooting and openly claimed his allegiance to ISIS, and he's not a terrorist? Kys.

>>689352789
What about all the other shootings then? Sure, this Omar dude was a lot more successful at his mass shooting but that doesn't change the fact he is an exception, not being a mentally unstable white Christian and all.

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>>689351470
We didn't start the fire

>>689355282
who is Muslim with Arab Muslim parents
gays who Muslims openly target and kill
a Muslim terrorist you corporate media
brainwashed Liberal cucktard

>>689355623
>superior fire power
Not really. Just a semi auto rifle and a semi auto pistol. Sure he can just unload into a crowd, but all you have to do is hit him. Most people who carry, get training. You are speculating again, i am as well, but im not trying to claim my view is the truth.

>>689355706
You can believe whatever you wish. I am competent with a firearm and could prove it. Your opinion shouldn't infringe on my rights.

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>>689355758
It's not just about shootings believe it or not ...

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>>689354331
>he declared bankruptcy to make money for himself and screw over employees and contractors that worked for him.

fixed

and

fuck that orange faggot.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/money/companies/as-its-stock-collapsed-trump%e2%80%99s-firm-gave-him-huge-bonuses-and-paid-for-his-jet/ar-AAgWORF?li=BBnbfcN

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/usa-today-exclusive-hundreds-allege-donald-trump-doesn%e2%80%99t-pay-his-bills/ar-AAgR9h6?li=BBnb7Kz

http://www.addictinginfo.org/2016/06/11/this-is-how-trump-made-millions-while-running-his-casinos-into-the-ground/

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>>689355636
Did somebody say liberal logic?

>>689355706
Most people who carry will voluntarily take courses to make them more efficient. Also your use of handcannon shows me you have no clue what you are talking about.

>>689355908

Superior to anything they would be allowed to carry or have inside. Plus a grenade?

You're really squirming, but that point is irrefutable.

>>689355605
Fake.

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>>689355633
yes but I'm not pretending to be something I'm not

>>689355282
>ISIS claims responsibility
>The guy talked to a cleric who had been on a watchlist for terrorism
>He himself was on a terrorism watchlist
Defintely not a terrorist tho. Nope, nothing to see here.
#notallmuslims
#religionofpeace
#thisposterisafuckingidiot

>>689356097
Youre pretty ignorant when it comes to firearms and munitions huh?

>>689355758
>this Omar dude was a lot more successful at his mass shooting
I think he got too much credit.

When I awoke and read the news there were 20 people killed.
Then it went to 50 AFTER the police barreled through a wall, used explosives and engaged him in a "firefight".

We all know how cops are trained to shoot and how many times they miss their targets.

I doubt we'll ever see the autopsy reports but I'd bet LE killed just as many as he did.

>>689356010

That's the kind of guy I want taking care of me.

If someone applied for a position in one of his companies with no experience but simply claiming he means to do well and make his company great again, he would tell him to fuck off, that his company is great and then poach some dude in another company with yrs of experience.

>>689351470
Please don't come to Canada, I really don't want more dudes from the USA here.

>>689355282
I notice this poster isnt responding to anything that we are sending his way. Maybe he is cooed into submission upon realizing how fucking stupid of a statement he made was?

>>689356210

That's it?

Are you tapped out already?

>>689356002
Don't think muslim immigrants were responsible for that one

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>>689356020
Did someone say republican logic?

>>689356265
I certainly hope he didn't kill 50 but I don't see why they would lie about the numbers.

>>689351470
You are a liar and you know it.

>>689356196
This is not Twitter. Get out.

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>>689356107
it isn't fake and you know it you wannabe troll.

>>689356422
> source: OccupyDemocrats
topkek

>>689351470
or post shit on 4chan, oh wait...

>>689355995
Its not really an opinion. Owning a firearm doesnt require you to return to the range and practice any time after you register and acquire one. So maybe you practice constantly and have a nice shot. Who's to say under the pressure of being shot you wont fuck it up? Who's to say that someone who literally never goes to the range wouldn't ultra-panic and start blindfiring like a retard into the crowd. Honestly, its not opinion that humans are programed to think highly of their abilities. Its what were supposed to think to survive. But now that these sort of things exist and we dont live in caves, its time to take careful consideration into what you have the "right" to own.

>>689355605
He recognizes a problem with the u.s. but uses it for his advantage? That's all I'm seeing here. Sounds like a decent business practice. No?

>>689354289
yeah so basically he slides away with no personal blame and dumps the project
Hillary is shit and Trump is shit no ones gonna do well this year

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>>689356196
>guy on terrorist watchlist is still legally allowed to buy an assault rifle

THANK GOD AND THE LITTLE BABY JESUS FOR OUR SECOND AMENDMENT RIGHTS!

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>>689356540
it's funny because it's true!

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>>689351470
>both sides of this thread

>>689356137
so you're a fucking psychic now
fuck off you millennial libtard cucklord

>>689356685
And yet you still ignore the main point of my post. Congratulations on your autism.

>>689353174
Because why is he able to buy fucking guns if he's on an FBI watch list? My cousin, robbed a grocery store when he was 19.. he's 31 one now and can't legally buy a gun. The FBI aren't watching him. He did some dumb shit as a kid and now as a grown man with a wife and two kids he can't legally buy a gun. That makes sense to you? A guy on an FBI watch list can buy guns freely but a guy on a fucking watch list can't.

>>689353260
lol I love this term "military grade"

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>>689351470
Too many idiots think the president has any affect on incidents like this.

There's a fucking war on. Like an actual fucking war.

Trump can't do fuck all to stop it. Nobody can.

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>>689356589
>meanwhile he preaches how China is taking all our jerbs

yeah no problem there at all

>>689356803
I'm 47
kid

>>689354227
Did you forgetbyou can WRITE-IN a candidate of your choosing? You have as many choices as there are legal native residents of the USA whom have not previouslt served two terms as president.

>>689353223
I'm coming in.

>>689356383
What are you on about? You are trying to claim that a semi auto rifle and one grenade apparently makes you a one man army, it doesnt. Too much cod man

>>689356020
I dont carry because i have no use for one. And i dont believe many gun owners take the time to efficiently use their weapon when its needed in a tight situation. Its a hero complex that just cant seem to be overcome by humility and humble thinking. Admitting that you cant control any situation is humble. Carrying around a gun to make you feel safe just tells me youre desperately scared of everything and a gun comforts you.

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>>689356813
the main point of your post was stupid
you're stupid
congratulations

>>689354207
oh yikesssss wheww lad.

>only need one round
>clip
>enormous armor piercing rounds kek
>third party authority

You sir, are the problem.