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Gun laws in America are fucked.

What should America do to fix this /b/
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Less gun free zones
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>>689275421
nothing i love my guns
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>>689275421
allow people to legally carry their handguns, get rid of restrictions on full auto, no magazine capacity limits in certain cuck states, get rid of gun free zones. thats about it faggot. also a bit of common sense muslim control couldnt hurt
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Remove absolutely every restrictions on gun purchasing and background checks.

Its like the purge IRL except every day of the year.
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>>689275421
Get rid of muslims
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>>689275421
It's not about guns, it's about there not being enough money put behind proper mental health treatment.
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>>689275421

SHALL
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guns don't kill, muslims do
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>>689275960
Yeah its horrible how that magazine capacity killed all those people...
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>>689276443

Even aside from the daily gun massacres, this is very true. The mental health issues of this country have been allowed to fester and money REALLY needs to be put towards better care for these people.
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>>689276547
NOT
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>>689275421
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>>689276665
/thread.
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>>689275421
>obvious b8 thread
I'm willing to bet you don't know shit about them.
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DEY GON TAKE AH GUNZ

AH GUUUNNZZZ
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>>689276665

except for all the non-muslim shooters who make up the vast majority, I agree with you
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>>689276861
>daily gun massacres

...uh, you know shootings have actually gone down the last 10 years right? And your chances of dying to a gun are actually far smaller than being either stabbed or even beaten? Source: FBI statistics, 2014.
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>>689276443
By mental health treatment you mean converting people away from Islam right?
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>>689275421

They should make killing people illegal. That would take care of the problem of people killing each other.
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>>689275421
Ah, look at the Muslim OP trying to disarm law-abiding Americans.
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>>689275421

>50 people dead in a country with 320,000,000 people
>statistically irrelevant

Who gives a shit, mass shootings are less than 1% of all gun homicides
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>>689276443

THIS

'dah muslims' is another convenient scapegoat to once again ignore the failings of american healthcare
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>>689276861
>daily gun massacres
Yeah no
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shut down all gun manufacturers.
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>>689277358
bout fucking time. thank you
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It's simple just put all muslims that are in the US into internment camps just like the Japanese during WWII and kill any muslim who either acts up or refuses
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>>689277205

not religion per se, but in the case of radicalisation from cults like IISIS, the majority who join them have mental health issues with little support, which is why they seek 'help' from these nutjobs promising the world
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>>689276885

BE
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>>689277207
That's a good idea. I can support this 100%.

Well, 99.9+%. Killing murderers is also a good idea.
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>>689276885
BE
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>>689277443

Even if all new guns stopped being made America has over 300 million guns in civilian hands you idiot. Are you going to go door-to-door to try to take them back? Prepare for a civil war.
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>>689277340
The muslims should all be locked up right along with the spastics and psychos. Not a scapegoat at all. They are all pieces of shit.
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>>689275421
get rid of liberals and niggers, 90% of crime gone overnight.
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>>689277662

but if you kill a murderer then you become a murderer who must then be killed and so on until no one is left
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>>689277340
>>689276443
You DO seem to be in need of treatment anons.

The county hospital is there to help you.
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>>689277885

let me file down those edges for you, you might cut yourself otherwise
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>>689277619
>radicalisation
Retarded European detected. Fuck off back to your islamic nations, this thread is for actual discussion.
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>>689277892
>but if you kill a murderer then you become a murderer
lol no. if you kill a murderer they cancel each other out. its called double jeopardy
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Don't see why they shouldn't make gun ownership similar to being able to drive a car. Take a class, take a test, get a gun. Re-register it every couple of years, etc...

People act like that shit is some sort of stepping stone to a tyrannical governments. Like their AR-15 is going to somehow save them from a fucking tomahawk missile if it came to that anyways... Dumb bitches.
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>>689277892
Nice story, except killing a murderer is not murder retard. It is justice.
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>>689276775

I know right?

If only there was someone there who could have shot back.
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>>689277340
>tfw my state has ZERO mental health facilities anymore, as of last year
>people with problems are just sent to jail instead
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>>689278076

>he doesn't understand the difference so resorts to cliche insults

bless your little cotton socks
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>>689275421
our problems cannot be fixed. even if there were a viable solution you could never get people to agree to it
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>>689278016


>>689276443
>>689277885
These are me. This faggot>>689277340 twisted my words
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YOU CAN'T TAKE MY GUNS IF YOU DON'T HAVE A GUN STUPID LIBTARD CUCK
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>>689278147

This guy was a security worker, he had full vetting dude, took hours of training, extensive background checks, etc. He'd have got it, Paris attackers got their fullauto AKs on the black market.

Also, do you know how much Tomahawk missles cost?
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i see no news on this.. i dug and nothing so
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>>689278147
Please feel free to forfeit your rights.

I'll be keeping mine, thank you.
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>>689277892

Why not put them in solitary with a noose hanging up from the rafters in the corner?
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>>689278533

it's on EVERY major news station you fucknugget
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>>689276775
Virginia tech shooter carried 17 ten round magazines. Good thing he didn't have 8 twenty round magazines or he might have hurt someone.
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>>689278590

good thinking batman!
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>>689276665
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>>689275421
Stop invading the Middle East and shut down the CIA so that we stop creating so many extremists for the Pentagon to fight.
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>>689278270
Your argument is retarded anyway. Any proper muslim is pretty much in favor of these massacres anyway, and there is no way they will go to get mental help by themselves.

Don't suggest reeducation camps either, the EU is about to fuck the entire continent with those, so if you are in the UK, you better vote leave.
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>>689277078

Yeah. Most shootings are nig nogs shooting other nig nogs anyways.
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>>689277340
Ah yes, don't blame the shooter who believes all gays should die, blame the society that allowed gays to get married.
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>>689277340
I agree, all muslims should be locked up in insane asylums. Good point.
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>>689278147
I don't need the government's permission to exercise my right to own firearms thank you
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>>689278911
Yah because pulling all out defense now would accomplish so much that the threat exist
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>>689278942

>Any proper muslim is pretty much in favor of these massacres anyway

/discussion
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>>689278784

Just looked it up, Glock 19.

15rd standard, though 10s are available.

Still though, can't imagine it'd make much of a difference.
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This is the fault of gun nuts.

You have a lot of blood on your hands.
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It's just the price for conquering country's of monkeys
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>>689278850
Leave the mass shootings in, but take out all instances where the murderer was a nigger. We now have a murder rate comparible to some european countries that dont even allow guns. we dont have a gun problem, we have a nigger problem
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>>689279161

see

>>689278493
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>>689278147
You're literally retarded.
>you need to stop posing for these hentai drawings, anon
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>>689279161
What about the bataclan? Whose fault was that? Still American gun nuts?

Moron.
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>>689279006

FUCK that guy, he is a murderous cunt. Not due to religious but due to the fact he is a cunt. /pol/ must be imploding right about now, since they hate both anyone Muslim and anyone gay. kek
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gun laws cause people to not want to murder other people - fact.
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>>689278194
How was anyone kept from shooting back? It happened in Florida. Anyone there could have carried a gun and shot the terrorist. The thing is guns don't magically deflect bullets you stupid fucking hick. Nothing can stop someone who is determined to kill dozens of people if they can get their hands on a firearm. The only way to prevent shootups is to make it hard to get firearms.

Ask yourself why the fuck does this keep happening in America. There's been multiple dozens of shootings since Sandy Hook. Pull your head out of your ass already you stupid fucking selfish piece of shit redneck scum. Your penis compensation rights aren't more important than all the lives at stake.
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>>689275421

60 dead fags and 1 dead muslim.

Seems like a great day in America to me.
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>>689279161

So much this!

I need to sue the people who makes spoons and forks for making me fat! Its not my fault im fat its the spoons and people who make them!

This fucking keyboard of mine too. IM not mispelling words!!! ITS THE KEYBOARDS FAULT!!!!!

ITS EVERYONE'S FAULT BUT MY OWN!!!!
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replace all guns with nerf guns
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>>689275421
Make better people
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>>689279161
My guns haven't kill any one or any thing, so fuck off
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>>689279121
What defense? We aren't doing shit over there, it's all Russia. All we've been doing in the Middle East since the 70s is pissing people off.
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>>689276443
This faggot swallowed the liberal horse shit
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>>689279437
A hard fact is that self defense is now banned in many countries. Kill a man to save yourself in Australia, get prison time for it.

These laws are genuinely preventing people from protecting themselves.
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50 homos is a good start. As long as the Muslim dies in the end, it's an all around good thing when this happens.
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>>689279161

lol you are a retard. the guy was a islamic homophobic and a democrat. but idiots like you are saying not religiously motivated and guns/republicans fault. like seriously how dumb are you? also Orlando native and current resident. talk of the town is how Muslims shot up a gay bar not the fucking national narrative of Muslims are peaceful. get fucked. 407 32803.
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>>689279121

>defense

wut
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>>689277207
This. Restrictions won't fix anything. If we could drip acid onto a murderer and use cruel and unusual punishment nobody would even think about it without killing themselves after/during
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>>689278493
>Do you know how much Tomahawk missiles cost.
>Sir, we can't do anything against the civil uprise! They have automatic firearms and using any weaponry stronger than that would cost, like, tons of money!
>I guess we gotta concede. The american government is disbanded. We did all we could.

It's fine to be a retard, it's just... why do you go through life thinking your opinions are worth anything? That's wrong.
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>>689275421
Outlaw guns. Start a forced buyback program where the government buys all the guns from the populace and then recycles them into something useful.
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>>689279696

so you're saying it IS the fault of guns? I thought that was the 'liberal' stance?
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>>689279814

i know, right? remember that time we sent all those tanks, drones, and missiles to afghanistan, and now there's no more terrorists?

lol, those guys thought they could stop us with a few shitty assault rifles.
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>>689279401
I'm the guy that you responded to and i frequent /pol/. It's happening just like we all thought. The retarded leftists who allowed these savages to live here will be forced to choose between islam and gay rights. The left is eating itself just like we all knew it would. Personally i think gays should be allowed to get married. Faggots > muslims.

It's sad that people died, but at the same time i have to thank the left for being such incompetent feels-over-reals retards, since they're just making everyone more and more nationalist.
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>>689279462
I cannot help but to notice that shootings only happen in legal gun free zones or establishments that forbids it.

Almost like shooters know that guns can stop them no matter what.
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>>689279462
Gun free zones are why they were unable to shoot back, idiot. Think before you spew bullshit next time.
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>>689279844
>take all of the citizens guns
>criminals with unregistered guns fly under the radar
>they can now freely rob people with no fear of being shot

Well, gun deaths would probably go down, but robberies and other small crimes would skyrocket.
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>>689279844
>forced buyback program

And what happens when most people ignore it? I sure as fuck won't obey an unconstitutional mandate and I have several homemade guns the government doesn't even know about.
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>>689279654
Guns are made to kill people. They have no other purposes. You should be suspected of intending to kill somebody for owning one.
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>>689279769
That is the American way to spell defence
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>>689277358
Preach it /b/rother. America's only problem is the pussies that grew up in a culture that wanted everyone to get a trophy. Fucking cucks
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>>689280119
>make a bunch of barely functional homemade guns out of pipes and 2x4s
>sell them to the government
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*cough*
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>>689280015
Do you seriously think that someone who conceals firearms just gets rid of them before entering gun free zones?

You watch too many action movies. You can't prevent a terrorist attack with a gun.
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>>689280171

>implying self-defense isn't lawful
>implying hunting isn't lawful
>implying killing pests like Coyote and Feral Hog
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>>689279844

right, because once you get rid of all the guns, nobody could POSSIBLY just, you know, make more?
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>>689280171
Good men carry guns to protect their lives and the lives of innocents. If that triggers you then this clearly isn't the place for you.

If nobody deserves guns you should be protesting for the police to be disarmed.
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>>689277338
THANK YOU
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>>689275421

We should all bare our arms.
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>>689277207
Underrated post
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>>689280119
Are you part of a well regulated militia? How about a slave patrol? No? I guess it isn't unconstitutional then. But to answer your question, arrest them, take their guns and then give them some money for the appropriated guns. It worked in Australia.
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>>689280171
>Guns are made to kill people
No, they are made to make bits of metal go fast and accurately hit a target

>They have no other purposes
Sport shooting and hunting are the most common uses for firearms actually

>You should be suspected of intending to kill somebody for owning one
No
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>>689280390
>canada

Lol those stupid americans are so backwards with their gun rights. By the way did you hear we recently made bestiality legal? We're very progressive.

Did you know that if you kill your enemies they win? But if you fuck a moose you win.
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>>689280626

you know australians can still own guns, right? and that the confiscation only managed to destroy around 20% of registered guns?
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>>689280536
HOW MANY FUCKING TERRORIST ATTACKS BEFORE YOU START ASKING YOURSELF SOME QUESTIONS YOU FUCKING NUT!? YOU ARE LITERALLY WATCHING PEOPLE DIE IN FRONT OF YOU AND SAYING "nope. Can't do anything about it" WHEN LITERALLY EVERY OTHER FIRST WORLD COUNTRY IS LIGHT YEARS AHEAD OF YOU IN PREVENTING TERRORIST ATTACKS BECAUSE THEY HAVE REASONABLE GUN LAWS AND ACTUALLY ACT AGAINST GUN TRAFFICKING.

YOU ARE LETTING PEOPLE DIE BECAUSE YOU ARE TOO SELFISH TO GIVE UP THE SLIGHTEST BIT OF YOUR STUPID MICRODICKED COWBOY "RIGHT"
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>>689280518
Cool. That's what law enforcement is for, arresting maniacs who make illegal and unregulated firearms.
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>>689280443
Because of the harsh penalties that you support, yes. I do believe that. Law abiding citizens are put at a disadvantage from restrictions. You are an idiot.
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>>689280443
>You can't prevent a terrorist attack with a gun

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/volokh-conspiracy/wp/2015/10/03/do-civilians-with-guns-ever-stop-mass-shootings/

How does it feel to live in a fantasy world where you simultaneously think guns kill people AND that it's impossible to kill someone with them?
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>>689280626
>Are you part of a well regulated militia?

Yes, per 10 US Code 311: "The militia of the United States consists of all able-bodied males at least 17 years of age and, except as provided in section 313 of title 32, under 45 years of age who are, or who have made a declaration of intention to become, citizens of the United States and of female citizens of the United States who are members of the National Guard.
(b) The classes of the militia are—

(2) the unorganized militia, which consists of the members of the militia who are not members of the National Guard or the Naval Militia."

Also, irrelevant because DC v Heller: "(1) The Second Amendment protects an individual right to possess a firearm unconnected with service in a militia, and to use that arm for traditionally lawful purposes, such as self-defense within the home"

Got any more questions, idiot?
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>>689280626

10 U.S. Code § 311

Yes, I'm in the Militia, so are you.

SCOTUS has already ruled firearms ownership is an individual right unconnected to Militia duties, Heller v Columbia and shit.

Hence, "right of the PEOPLE" and not "right of the MILITIA"
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>>689279776
>If we could drip acid onto a murderer and use cruel and unusual punishment nobody would even think about it without killing themselves after/during
yeah its not like every single shooter has killed themselves right ya stupid fuck?
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>>689280938
So you're saying we should deport the muslims?

Or are american gun laws also responsible for brussels and paris?
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>>689280837
So gun control does not make a difference then. Thanks for the confirmation.
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>>689280443
The terrorists would have twenty targets. All twenty targets would have one target. What are the chances of that one bad person dying first? Now shut the fuck up you god damned retard. I hope niggers rob your ass tonight. That would change your stance real fast.
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>>689280261
It's like the cobra effect and the rat effect.
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>>689281046
Fucking nice
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>>689275421
Compulsory gun ownership
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>>689280837
That would be over 60 million guns removed from the country. Assuming 20%.
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>>689279462

>How was anyone kept from shooting back?

I dont care enough to look it up. But Wherever the fuck this happend was more likely then not a "Gun Free zone!" like almost every other mass shooting.

Because all "gun free zone" signs mean is "people here cant shoot back"

But again, i really dont care enough to look that up. so eh.

>The thing is guns don't magically deflect bullets you stupid fucking hick

Correct. But when the shooter gets a handfull of rounds put into his chest that will stop him from shooting more bullets... though thats not magical.

>Nothing can stop someone who is determined to kill dozens of people if they can get their hands on a firearm.

Wrong. a single well placed shot will stop someone who is determined to kill dozens of people.

>The only way to prevent shootups is to make it hard to get firearms.

All this dose is make it harder for law abiding citizens to get guns to protect themselves.

Do you really think someone who is going on a shooting rampage to kill dozens of people will give a flying fuck if he breaks a few more laws to get his hands on some guns? or he / she would care enough about their bank account to just buy them off tyrone in the hood?

>Ask yourself why the fuck does this keep happening in America.

Because we like to put signs up because good intentions protect people better then a CCW.

For real. most shootings happen in gun free zones. the batman movie theater guy skiped over like seven theaters and targeting the one that was gun free for a reason.

Do you think that reason was because their popcorn sucked or because he knew the law abiding people there would not be able to shoot back?

> Pull your head out of your ass already you stupid fucking selfish piece of shit redneck scum.

Had no idea chicago burbs was redneck scum... but ok.

>Your penis compensation rights aren't more important than all the lives at stake.

I must ask what is it with anti gun people and their obsession with dicks?
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>>689275421
As a Democrat who also "loves muh guns" I accept the increased gun violence from an armed populous. It's inevitable. I accept it and will live with it.
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>>689280390
Gee, if there was only a country that protect all of these 'good' countries...
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>>689280978
When the fuck did I say I supported gun free zones?

And no, law abiding citizens are not disadvantaged from restrictions if they follow it. If restrictions are a problem to you, then you are in fact a law breaker. You don't get to draw the line on which laws to abide to to make one a law-abiding citizen.

Gun control is merely about licensing, registration, gun handling courses and limited speed/magazines. A law abiding citizen is as capable of defending themselves from a criminal under such laws as in a state where there is no gun control. The difference between two such states is the likeliness of encountering a fucktard wielding an AK-47 and shooting up the place. No amount of of guns will shield you from a bullet.
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Why are Americans the most oppressed people living, yet also believe they're the most free?

Also why are you so afraid of little girls
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>>689280967

are you going to outlaw power lathes and drill presses? are you going to make a registry of all pipe fittings? because any asshat can use those things to make guns in his basement.
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