>>688610224
18 minutes

>>688610224
Quick guess. 8minutes. The last of light will end reaching us, starts to get really cold after that. Also, the centre of mass of the galaxy would be around jupiter and then the planets would go out of whack. since sun was 98% mass of sytme probably go and leave solar systme. It'll get cold anyawy.

>>688610224
3 years

>>688610566
I'd say somewhat more than that because earth's ability to retain heat. But I woudlnt know for how long.

>>688610952
oh yeah good point. Not long. humans go bye bye quickl withough some tech. Only some species around thermal vents survive for maybe years

The first day would be no big deal...
Gradually though night would take over.
99% of people would die in the first month or two.
After a year or so...

The only survivors would be:
1) Deep Underground away from the elements
2) Nuclear powered
3) Grow own food
4) Have air filtration
5) Have water filtration
6) any other needed things

A few generations may live on after the death of the sun, but most everything would die because temperatures would drop to colder than pluto.

>>688610566
you know overnight you usually go about 12 hours without sunlight right? Do you usually die 8 minutes after sunset?

Vsuace already discussed this.
Whole video about it.
Its called "what if the sun disapeared"
Educate yourselves

>>688611215
>air filtration
not going to do much good when individual elements start freezing out of the atmosphere.

>water filtration
replace that with recycling and it might help.

Honestly though, a nuclear power source big enough to sustain an underground population, keep them from freezing, and provide enough heat and light to grow enough crops to feed them? that's a bit of an ask.

protip: earthquakes will become really common as the top of the crust cools, bad time to be underground

>>688611526
not sure if troll

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>>688611215
Take Millions of years to reach roughly -400f....End of first week -100F...Get to Iceland fast....Or nuclear for heat....Many underground cathedrals aka mines available (salt mines for one)....But would be 2012...Most wouldn't get an invite...

>>688611526
You're such a fucking retard man. Seriously, I had no clue there was people this fucking stupid ahah! Can I ask your age?

>>688612625
12

>>688612757
also what is this

>>688612757
Yea that might explain 20% of this troglodite's stupidity, where did he get the other 80%? Also, how much fucking effort does one have to put in to be this fucking downy?!

>>688611215
this scenario ignores celestial mechanics.

the moment the sun disappears the earth would go off balance.

even the best astrophysicists can only speculate as to what would happen

but you can expect polar shifts and disproportionate gravitational pull throughout the earths surface caused by increased planetary "wobbling"

uninhabitable for humans even underground

>>688611739

this faggot is right.

its on youtubes.

fucking newfags.

This is more of a matter of heat, not just light, we can most likely survive for a while in near total darkness (moon would provide enough to an extent) but I doubt we would last long with no heat.

since the sun would expand to a red giant before imploding we would be vaporized in mere minutes

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>>688611147
There's a species that lies deep in the ocean, at the bottom, these creatures hang out by volcanic vents and can withstand the oceanic pressure. They will definitely be the last thing to survive, in a million years we will have humans all over again from them.

>>688613422
You dumb fuck where do you think the moon gets its light

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>>688610566
the centre of mass of the galaxy would be around jupiter

>>688613034
Are you talking about the Earth's oblateness???

>>688613034
Most likely crashes between plannets as they form new orbits around each other. Huge explotions and debree that could erradicate us if for some reason the earth didnt collide with another star.

>>688613422
Are you actually autistic?

>>688613542
no fag.
its a hypothetical spontaneous disappearance of the sun

we all know what a supernova would do.

>>688610566
> Also, the centre of mass of the galaxy would be around jupiter
>galaxy

Also, everything in the solar system would be moving away from each other so fast that Jupiters gravity wouldn't matter.

>>688610224
https://what-if.xkcd.com/49/
tl;dr: cold, swift death

>>688613880
12

>>688613571
that's... that's not how it works...

>>688610224
DISAPPEARED HOW?
THAT KIND OF IMPORANT things missing

like if it burned out vs blowing up what would happen would be diffent lol

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>>688610224
It would get cold and dark pretty quickly.

>>688613639
Again, the point is that we are talking about fucki mng heat, not light. How does that change the fact that we would fucking die without the heat of the sun? Even by your rules we arrive at the same outcome, even if we can see even less than I thought.

>>688613840
given current velocities they'd probably just all sail off in different directions into space. I doubt there's enough mass remaining to pull teh inner plannets anywhere, but if the orbits were just right some of the outer planets might hang around together

>>688614107
op probably meant if it just poofed out of existence

>>688614104
But if the Earth keeps twerking why would it matter about the sun?

the question is moot... the sun dont just poof

>>688610224

You would die. Trust me I'm a Doctor.

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>>688610224
What a bunch of fucking idiots. We don't even need a sun.

>>688614444
checked

>>688613880
Explain my good man. What conclusion did you draw from the sudden disappearance of the sun? We're all ears.

>>688614430
I poof on ur mums ass m8

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>>688612989
Wow. What a fucking loser you must be.

>>688614444
check em>>688614384

Just think of the effect of the discontinuity from the loss of the Sunday gravity. Also the new geostrophic balance.

>>688611526
You do know the heat of the sun is still present right? The sun doesn't disappear from the solar system just because we can't see it.

>>688614242
Nah, nigga. You said that the moon itself would provide light for us. The moon reflects light, it's doesn't generate light you fucking idiot.

>>688610224
Okay, if it takes the light and heat from the sun 8 minuets to stop reaching Earth, what if we just travel away from the sun at 8 minuets per hour? We'll always be keeping up with where the warm is, so we'll never run out of sun.

>>688611111

>>688612029

Dam ;_; gg based anon

>>688614661
u talk like a fag

>>688614755
> 8 minutes per hour

>>688614504
"We don't need a sun"

Plants do, and without them you would have no fucking clean air first of all

Most species would go extinct, even if by some reason we don't, which is unlikely.

>>688614821
Wasted quints

>>688613571
Yeah lol

>>688614875
I took a shit like 5 mins ago, I feel better now

>>688613838
not really, i believe that has to do with rotational speed and gravitational pull, like on some of the moons.

i mean rapid, uneven, nonsequential movements of the earth that would make standing on the surface an impossibility.

>>688613034
i think it would be very unlikely that the planet could encounter another star and be pulled into orbit and included in the new system.

Maybe a month, at very best

>>688611147
Solar energy isn't the main source of inner earth proceses, radiation is, so energy would be released anyway

>>688614573
>Im gonna call this guy a loser even though I browse /b/ too!

We're all fucking losers budy, tell me something I don't know

>>688615148
I release energy on ur mums ass m8

>>688613422
But what if someone unscrewed the giant spotlight on the moon's surface that gives us the light?

>>688614430

What does Moot have to do with the sun and us dying?

>>688614755
What the fuck is 8 minutes per hour

>>688610224
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rltpH6ck2Kc

>>688614914
Idiot plants work off of any light. Stars provide light, photosynthesis can take place, even with low light intake FAGGOT!

>>688615032
Thank god you're ok anon

>>688615256
But if all these losers are winning then the competition is throwed as hell that means swoop in for the kill anons

>>688615148
It's the reason Jupiter can heat its moons, but we don't have the mass to keep us very long.

>>688615346
the speed of time

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Without the sun acting on the moon via gravity, is it reasonable to expect the earth to pull the moon in, from our gravity?

>>688615402
thank you for your concern. truly, God is with me

>>688610224
We could just switch to geothermal energy, use the energy to power uv lamps to keep SOME oxygen production. 99 percent of humans would die and the survivors would be something like astonauts

>>688614741
Re read my comment again dumbass it applies to both of your comments.

>durr I have no reading comprehension techniques.

Okay let me dumb it down
We would die either fucking way.

>>688614755
>8 minutes per hour

lol, you almost had it son.

>>688615564
lol wut

The moon stays in orbit because of its lateral velocity.

The Earth is pulling it in, it is falling at freefall speed right now.

It is just going sideways so fast that it misses.

>>688615564
The moon was once much closer. Earth would definitely pull it back.

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>>688615564
>gravity
Read a fucking book you Gook!

>>688615857
only thing I pull back is my dick outta ur mums ass m8

>>688615483
>

>>688615970
Gravity is a myth

>>688615437
No one wins in /b/
If you're in this shit hole, you've been lost for a while

>>688614914
80% of the oxygen produced doesn't come from trees. It comes from plankton.

Using some other form of energy, geothermal or nuclear, Humanity could survive below the surface for a long time.

>>688610566
Good one, I don't know that gravity moves at light speed tho... But I agree, the after effects of whatever happens to earth when it's no longer on orbit would probably wipe us fast.

>>688611215
This one and is more on the lines of what would happen if the sun's light stopped reaching earth. While I can't provide a timeframe atmosphere would be gone and oceans along with it not long after, it isn't just light for warmth and photosynthesis that we need the sun's light for given stopping reactions (eg ozone cycle) in the upper atmosphere would alter equilibrium and lead to the atmosphere outgassing until we are left in a similar state to Mars... Esentially terraforming in reverse...

>>688610224
it's not a big deal. with electricity we can grow plants even without the sun. as a race we will pool our funds and create a ship, travelling to the next solar system and find a new home planet.

We have come this far as a race, we shouldn't rely on some stupid star to keep us alive.

>>688615666
Oh boy, you and I are gonna have a good chuckle about this when we're older. I meant to reply to this dummy>>688613422

>>688615389
Disappearance of the sun would cause a fucking ice age you flamboyant cocksucker

>>688610566
What about creating an artificial sun?

>>688610224
https://youtu.be/8bgV1RXQvXs

>>688610224
Indefinitely. Ronald Reagan's star wars program would be initiated igniting Jupiter and mass migration to Wolf 1061c would proceed.

>>688616214
only flamboyant cocksucker I know is ur mum m8

>>688616337
only mum i know is ur mom m8

>>688616054
>Gravity is a myth

>Gravity is demonstrably not a myth

Corrected that one for you friendo, I wouldn't want people to think you were a fucking retard or anything.

>>688616084
Even during the ice age?

>>688611831
That dude is cool to watch

>>688616451
cheeky cunt

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>>688616214
Ice age still happened with a sun present correct? Idiot butt dick sitting on sponge bobs dick butt while squidward slaps patricks cock loving ass mouth around sandys nastay ass stank ass pussy lips before mr krabs took pearls flaps and slapped them all over your bikini bottom. cunt

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>>688616658

>>688616514
The surface would be frozen over, and humanity would need to live below ground where the core of the earth would heat the ground to livable conditions, but we would survive.

Sure it would likely cool once the tidal forces working on it from the sun were gone, but it would take a long time (thousands of years), plenty long enough for people to sort out some kind of way out of the solar system.

>>688616658
You just made my fucking point faggot.

>>688610224
like 10-ish minutes

>>688616879
So the sun disappeared once before in history?

>>688616649
Ohes noes!

>>688616220
But the question I want to know is would humans be able to create and alternative light source and heat source in the face of such adversities?

>>688617086
Nuclear power requires no light.

>>688617015
ye

>>688617199
Yeah but we need light to find the radioactive things for the reactor

>>688617404
lol

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>>688617404
atheists btfo

>>688616860
Mo, we wouldn't, the technology does not exist and we can't make it on short notice. No government/private entity or individual on earth is prepared to survive nuclear winter, let alone losing the sun altogether...

>>688617545
This son was easier to live without

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>>688617404
>find the radioactive things

>>688614755
>what if we just travel away from the sun at 8 minuets per hour?

Genius stuff. Well played.

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>>688614755
>8 minutes per hour
>where the warm is

>>688618080
where the warm is, is in ur mums ass m8

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>>688614755
Anything with mass can't go 8 minutes per hour the very most 7 minutes and 59 seconds per hour

>>688618479
But that would require a lot of light, no?

>>688618479
prove it Mr. Science McFucknut

>>688614384
>But if the Earth keeps twerking why would it matter about the sun?

Thread/

>>688618999
checked

>>688618999
Also check'em

How does the earth go around the sun? Wouldn't the gravity just pull it in?

>>688619261
magnets

>>688619479
But how?

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>>688619594
no idea

>>688619594
think of a tether ball with nothing to stop it. You throw it to one side and the cord makes it move in a circle, gravity is the cord

>>688619784
But what made it go in motion in the first place? Is the earth powered by light?

>>688620784
Was meant for
>>688620430

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>>688620784
serious?

>>688620838
everything is moving away from the center of the universe (roughly) and all the stuff that became the earth, which was originally moving in one direction, got trapped by the gravity of the sun and then coalesced into the planet. Generally speaking that is how it happened.

>>688621373
Fair, but what's keeping the earth from rolling down the hill towards the sun?

>>688621430
Cool thanks. What about the moon did the sun make that too?

>>688610952
The core yes, the surface not so much.

>>688611215
Ya, I kind of think being plunged into darkness at the 8 minute mark might be a big deal for the world. Plus the freezing to death.

With the center of mass disappearing in our solar system, we may fly off into deep space or maybe collide with a gas giant.

Our prospects look pretty bleak, you fucking retard.

>>688610224
the light would no longer reach us after 8 minutes and 34 or 35 seconds, after that it would be like night time. and it would cool down. not too bad at first but would continue to get colder and colder until we freeze on the surface. Geothermal heat would still exist because the core is molten with or without the sun's energy. other than that, we would have no energy or heat because solar, wind, water power doesnt exist without the sun. sure coal burning and nuclear fission, but we dont have a ton of crazy deep reactors on earth, nor could we build one in such an incident. 99.9% of humanity would die out. some would live.

astrophysics major, did this scenario with one of my professors a few semesters ago

>>688621494
Well considering that the warp in space isn't in just one direction. Imagine the grid below the sun is also above it and flipped so there is a bulge in space going both below and above the sun. It's not a 2D plane, only represented that way.

>>688622077
Oh so the sun doesn't actually play a part in it, it's just there to make the buldge

>>688621494
go look up kepler's work on orbits to understand how they work, then you would understand why it doesnt roll into the sun... so to speak

>>688622307
The mass of the sun warps space around it. Causing, the force known as gravity.

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>>688621673
this is a good example, the a is the suns gravity and the v is the initial velocity it had when the sun trapped it. The sun didn't make it, it made itself. Basically a clump large enough to exert some gravity pulled in some dust and got bigger which means more gravity and more dust and so on and so on. We're not completely sure where the moon came from but a likely guess is that it actually used to be part of the earth and some enormous impact billions of years ago knocked it loose and the earths gravity trapped it the same way the sun trapped the earth

>>688610224
Sun goes out.
We go indoors, elites go into underground cities with food reserves and geothermal heat.

First plants die, then everything else in just a few weeks. Elites live on a bit longer, but they will eventually run out of food, and turn on each other. All life will be extinct.

Except that's not entirely true. There's enough geothermal energy in the Earth to keep it going for billions of years. It will be warm enough around ocean vents to keep water liquid, and to keep simple plants, animals, and microbes going.

Eventually Rogue Earth may get captured by another star, and given a second lease on life.

I think there's a vsauce video about this.

One week.

>>688622036
how cold would earth get. obviously all fresh water would freeze, but what about salt water?

>>688615267
She would be pleased, she loves micro penises

>>688622521
bingo. also waterbears. tiny microbes that, without heat, go dormant for billions of years until rogue star like you said and cycle starts a-new

>>688622370
>>688622456
>>688622496
Thanks all. I learned something ew today

But to go back to the original question, if the sun was gone, wouldn't the bulge go around the earth and then things would go to earth?

>>688622672
salt water would freeze too. we would get to like... im thinking surface temp of like -240 C. not too far above the Cosmic Background Radiation temperature. floats a few degrees above absolute zero

>>688623002
What I mean is wouldn't the earth start having the gravity, pulling things to go in circles around it?

>>688623002
sort of, I assume you are referring to the bulge in >>688621373 and in that case the earth already has one it is just much much smaller than the suns. It is also a bit more of a total of the mass in the system and right now the sun is something like 96% of the mass in our solar system so the bulge is centered there. If the sun was just gone the center of the bulge would probably be somewhere a little past jupiter but it wouldn't be strong enough to keep everything together so stuff would most likely start flying out in various directions

>>688623002
the bulge is a concept. its not a real thing. its like a trampoline. put a person on it, and some ping pong balls around that person, they go around until they fall inward. remove the person and the ping pong balls travel all the way across the trampoline undisturbed.

except in space, there is no friction/ air resistance/ anything to really stop a "ping pong ball" like the earth from traveling forever

we would continue in the direction we last were in right as the sun disappeared.

and gravity doesnt move at a speed. its always present. the effects of us flinging outward would happen before lights went out in the sky

>>688623478
That's sad :( do you think collisions with astroids or comets would be more or less likely if the solar system fell apart?

>>688623002
there's a bulge in space around all objects with mass, which is everything. That's the theory of gravity, that mass fucks with the fabric of space and creates, in essence a 3D vacuum effect around it. Like on a trampoline, but it's 3 dimensional so it completely surrounds the object in all 360 degrees in every possible direction. But it's not really a vacuum only an effect that looks similar to the way vacuums work ie: stuff from high pressure goes into low pressure. Gravity is it's own thing.

>>688623718
not really any more likely than it is now. probably the same, if not smaller chance of impacting.

>>688614718
... you do know that's exactly what he's implying right? Like.. you are agreeing with him.

>>688622672
The top layer of salt walter would freeze at about 28 degrees F.

However, ice is an excellent insulator which means after a layer of ice has formed on the top of the ocean, the heat would have a hard time escaping the ocean. The ocean also has vents on the floor of the ocean that expel tremendous amounts of heat from the earths mantle. In theory, life in the ocean could exists thousands of years without a sun.

>>688623117
So how deep would humans have to go to survive? would any currently built mines be able to sustain us? Assume the humans in question have a power supply allowing them to produce enough light to grow a sustainable amount of food. And describe the effect the -240 C would have on the air itself at the surface.

>>688623646
yeah I didn't want to get into warping of space and all that so I just used bulge to get the meaning across. Im a little foggy on this but since gravity is a force, just measured gravity waves and all that, it should have to obey the speed of light so I would think the effects would start at the same time

>>688623766
3d trampolines sound cool