>>688514372
No. Only humans can have defined nationality.

>>688514372
No such thing as american

American=European

>black
>people

choose one

Black people raised America.

>>688514746
In the sense that tractors "raised" America. But I'll credit you with the appropriate use of past tense, as they drag us down now.

>>688514592
You don't think you get American tractors or American cars?

>>688514616
By that logic we are all Africans

>>688514734
True

>>688515560
Most are assembled here. Not manufactured. It's like being born in Russia and moving back home to France after. You may be Russian on paper, but you're still a faggot.

Of course not. They blame current whites for slavery, but there were slave owners in Africa that now dead whites bought their now dead slaves from. Slavery in Africa negates american slavery.

>>688514372
only anglos are americans
most us born mexicans (socal) that i know view themselves as mexicans not americans.

>>688514372
Obviously bait, I know I'm "American" (and black) but I know it's just a social construct, the same with race. "Hey you were born and raised within these imaginary lines, so you are XYZ."

>>688516427
only eagles are americans
FTFY

>>688515560
>By that logic we are all Africans

Seriously all jokes and memes aside, please go and jump off the nearest tall building you fucking retard.

>>688516573
Fucking cotton picker.

>>688516853
>please go to the nearest Trump building
FTFY

>>688517121
Ahhh, kind of wish you were a bit more original. But this is 4Chan, I shouldn't have standards for you cucks.

>>688514372
what else?

>>688517308
The Internet was a much nicer place before king nigger gave you all free phones.

>>688514372
Well one of them currently leads the US and by definition you need to be an American citizen to be president.

Also the US us a melding pot nation, you can be any ethnicity and be American.

>>688516619
The egal is also a national symbol of Russia, was used by Nazi Germany and the Roman Empire, try again.

>>688517441
Hahaha, at least you made me chuckle.

But come on you know you love us, it makes you feel less shitty about your life.

>>688517805
Yeah, I like the Egal.

Itarian.

>>688517633
who said he was a citizen?

>>688516619
Oh please the Egale is one of the most over used national symbols.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eagle_(heraldry)

Even some middleastern nations use them.

>>688514372
*Can white people be American?

>>688516573
>social constructs meme

No one has ever denied this. Pointing it out doesn't make you smart.

Do you have a point?

>>688517633
>USA is a melting pot
Nice meme Shlomo. America was founded as a white man's country. In so far as it was supposed to be a melting pot, it was supposed to be a melting pot of white Christian Europeans who spoke English.
No one really wanted blacks to be citizens until long after the civil war.... even Lincoln wanted them deported.

>>688518237
The fact he's your president.

The US is retarded but it's not so retarded it let a non citizen hold government office for multiple years before becoming the leader.

Unless the US is that reararded.

>>688517633
Obama is biracial / mulatto / oreo / etc.
white mother, black father.
50% white, 50% black.
we've had a black first lady, still waiting on a first black president.

also inb4 "one drop rule" cucks

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Yes

>>688518054
Some, yes. Though none of your women. Totally understand why you shark white girls.

>>688518249
>https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Egale_Canada(heraldry)
FTFY

>>688518370
>Unless the US is that reararded.

we almost elected a socialist kike

yes, we are that retarded

>>688518351
The fact us it's a nation of imagrants and became a melding pot.

Remember most of the founding fathers disliked religion or where atheists yet you have "in god we trust" on your money and have become a theocratic state where religion dictates law.

>>688514616

Idiot. If there's no such thing as an American, there's also no such thing as a European.

Humans came from Africa. All of them.

>>688518588
>or were atheists

somebody doesn't know his history very well....

>>688514372
>national boarders

We are all terran and that's all that matters.

>>688518729
and dogs are just wolves

all of them

>>688518803
>2016
>being a globalist faggot

kys

>>688518750
The founding fathers wanted a nation where anyone was free to practice their religion but it was not apart of government.

The US is now a theocracy

So if the US was supposed to be a white nation it dosnt matter as its now a melding pot.

Nations change bra

>>688518818

Dogs are not the same species as wolves. Two different races do not count as distinct species.

>>688518942
I'm not wrong we are all the same species and no amount of edgy muddleschooler retohric on your part will change that.

>>688518942
I think it was more of a Starcraftist statement. But I'm not pop culture retarded.

>>688518999
>The founding fathers wanted a nation where anyone was free to practice their religion but it was not apart of government.

actually thats not true

read Jefferson/Adams letters, separation of church and state is about keeping the state out of the church, not keeping religious morality out of law

also in what way is the US a theocracy? other than common sense thou shall not kill type shit we don't adhere to a religious code in governance

Its not like sharia, theres no religion based code you MUST follow

Thats was adultery and pre marital sex are ok


>white nation
Thats a whole different story, but a total lost cause not even worth talking about

>>688519036
>>688519112

Here we go again in (current year). Stay out of the sun, guys.

>>688518351
When did I ever say it made me smart?
I'm just saying it's all a joke, because people take it way too seriously and some actually don't realize that it's all inside their head.

>>688518519
Meh, I'm actually more attracted to Latinas, although they can be quite religious which is a turn off for me.

>>688518729
It's all imaginary or at the very least very vague, but it's useful to us.

>>688519256
No

Terran is mostly used in sci-fi but it is a proper term to describe anything from Earth as its the Latin term for anything that comes from Terra, Terra being Earth.

>>688519488
Was joke.

>>688519447
Can't defend your statement?

Guess I win

I'm right, we are all the dame species and no amount of middleschooler retohric can Chang that.

Is this the /pol/ containment thread?

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>>688518942
Ebrace it

A United Earth is our future.

>>688519036
>dogs are a different species after 50,000 years of evolution
>different breeds after under 1000

>all human are the same despite thousands of years of isolated breeding and development

if if if if if thats sounds like a bunch of okie doke

>>688519452
I don't trust them. Too many birth control hang ups. Plus their accents are horrible.

>>688519634
On 4chan everything is a joke but I'm just here to annoy the Murican children who think it's cool to be racist on the internet.

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>>688519675
Yup

/pol/ is leaking a little.

I suppose I can post furry porn Here to make them more mad.

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>>688519488
You're just a big, heretical, xeno scumbag.

>>688519648
>shifting the burden of proof to me
Nigger, I'm not a part of this shit-fest; you have no idea how many times this argument has happened on 4chan. This argument has no value. It's (current year). You know the answer. This may as well be >>688519675.

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>>688519675
>>688519936

>everyone who disagrees with me is /pol/

embarassing

>>688519820
The one thing I'll side with the feminists on is that very point.

>>688519812
All ethnicities of human still class as one species "homo sapien"

Dispite what you think currently only one species of hominid lives on this planet and we have not speciated.

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>>688519820
>racism is bad

wrong site m8

>>688519812

Natural selection is very slow. If you want to use the "breed" terminology to refer to different races, I suppose you could, but different races aren't very different genetically.

Dogs have been bred by humans from wolves for thousands upon thousands of years, much faster than natural selection could on it's own. Different breeds of dogs are done over many generations of careful selections of which ones should/shouldn't breed.

You can't compare how dogs have been bred to how human races diverged.

>>688520021
Not shifting burden of proof

It's a fact all humans are the same species as we have not speciated.

>>688520078
Disagreeing with basic biology makes you from /pol/

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So did you all get another option for race when you were born? I didn't see gnome or high elf

Fuck no.

Throw them all in overs and burn them alive. If America had no nigger we would be such an amazing nation.

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Black people are America

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>>688520167
>dispite

kek

Thats great and all, but based on the large range of discernible variations between races on everything from skull shape/size to muscle and bone density id say statements like "we are all the same" are routed more in ideology than science

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>>688520176
>look mom I'm edgy on the internet

4chan is a porn site don't kid yourself.

>>688520364
So... what do you think I meant when I said
>>688520021
>This argument has no value
?

Are you suffering from heat stroke?

>>688520450
We are not all the same, we have different morphology but are not a different species.

It's you vs the entirety of evolutionary biology here. All humans are the same species.

>>688520406
1000 niggers in 1000 people?

nobody could ever believe that shit

>>688520543
I dunno I'm just here to see how dumb Muricans are, guess I shouldn't be suprised a country where evolution is "contraversial" produces people found in this thread.

>>688518750
Yea you. Franklin was an atheist. Jefferson was a deiest who didn't believe in the divinity of Jesus or even a non apathetic god. Adams was a Unitarian which is the same a deiest. Washington was at best agnostic. I could go on but you can just read a fucking history book.

>>688520860
>Americans
>reading any kind of history or science book

Lol

>>688516573
>social Construct
>black
You cannot be a citizen if you aren't a person!

>>688514372
It's not that hard
Move to the Americas (south or north) and earn citizenship

>>688520672
Numbers don't lie. You're all niggers.

>>688521028
Skin color has no bearing on personhood.

Niggers are still biologicaly human bruv.

>>688521057
This

>>688520264
>but different races aren't very different genetically

Theres common genetic material shared by most things on earth.

But there are enough notable differences between races that you cannot say all people are the same.
Different groups are more prone to different ailments, certain medications are not advised, bone structure and development vary, obvious stemming from the different conditions races lived in for prolonged periods
They each developed to suit there needs

Like the north america indians in mexico who could (and still can) run 50 miles+ a day in the sun, or the Scandinavians natural resilience to cold

>You can't compare how dogs have been bred to how human races diverged

There are certain similarities, both are eugenics based to a degree. But with humans it was obviously more location based than directly trying to breed to reach a predetermined end

>>688521131
>cringed so hard
SINCE WHEN DID WE BECOME FEMINIST CRYING FUCKS?!?!

>>688520945
Plenty of americans believe in science and read history books. There is just a large uneducated mass like in any other country. Unfortunately unlike other countries we tend to elect our uneducated people to public office

>>688521028
>cannot be a citizen if you aren't a person
>both are abstract
>can't be one abstraction because of another lone abstraction that relies on more sufficient abstractions

>can be a person without being a citizen
>can bait

>>688521262
>feminism
>race
I think you meant to ask when we became Egales.

>>688520860
>deists are the same as atheists

Thats what i was talking about retard, they're not

>franklin was an atheist
yeah, until he was 29

then he went from christian to deist


stop embarrassing yourself

>>688521262
Understanding biology makes you a feminist?

Shit son

>>688521276
Yeah its sad, this is why NASA us so underfunded

>>688521303
Humans are people, niggers are human.

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>>688521131
Shut up nigger

>>688520945
>he hasn't read enough to know he just agreed with an incorrect statement

lmaoing at your life

>>688521415
A deiest believes in a god in the way that I believe in alien life. Yea they may exist but they certainly aren't here now and they don't affect my life.

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>>688521660
Did I make you mad with a statement you can't disprove?

>>688521638
Why does everyone in this thread fail to understand that I'm agreeing with them?
pleaseread

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>>688521768
Nothing to disprove here. Just facts.

>>688521763
No deists believe in a god (creator) who basically made the earth and then abandoned it.

They believe in divine creation without divine intervention

What your describing would be agnostic

>>688521841
No I also agreed with you

The uneducated mass in the US is why the US looks bad and why good things like NASA are undefined.

>>688514592
I kek'd

>>688521930
Memes bruv

Guess I win the argument as you can only reply with memes.

Good day.

>>688521944
The point being made though which is the original point is that America wasn't founded on chritian ideology. It was founded on racism and elitism

>>688520662
>All humans are the same species

when did i claim that we are not?

I just said its reductionist to say "we are all the same"

>>688522213
Much like 4chan

>>688515560
>By that logic we are all Africans
What logic?

>>688522252
...

I think this is another case of us arguing dispite agreeing with eatchother...

Fuck this website.

>>688522023
Well, make sure to make that extra clear, because otherwise, there's a whole lot of (You)'s paraphrasing what was previously posted in a structurally argumentative way.

And then we get >>688522382, which is always fun, and further fuels certain biases of what people believe each anon to be.

>>688518256
/thread

>>688522302
If Americans are European because most of them are decedent of Europeans we can say we are all African because as far as we currently know modern humans evolved in Africa and migrated out a number of times.

>>688522213
>America wasn't founded on chritian ideology

no but christian morality and principles were directly used in the creation of our laws

That was an intentional move that is no secret if you read any book on the continental congress proceedings

>It was founded on racism and elitism
uhhh the entire revolutionary movement was against elitism.
and the only truly racist founder was jefferson, and he hated anglos and fucked black chicks all day

well, him and Jonah Johnson, but he wasn't even in congress until the 1790s when he fought against slavery

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>>688522123

>>688522572
And therefore we are all aliens if you follow panspermia

>>688522213
Nope, it was founded on Enlightenment ideals, Software not hardware defines the U.S.

>>688522637
When the county was founded only rich landowners were allowed to vote.

>>688522382
i think everyone creates adversaries here in whatever image they desire

this place is a shithole but its our shithole

>>688514372
B8 > R8

>>688514372
They have to pass the michael jackson test

>>688522733
Panspermea is pretty cool however it's not the proven mechanism for out origin, we have a lot of chemical evidence life started here but we also have a lot of evidence life can survive transfer.

Facinateing stuff, the real kicker will be if we find microbes on Mars that are geneticly like us, did it come from Earth or vise versa? I love astrobiology

ITT dick waggling

>>688522848
literally a meme

PA overthrew the land owner voting laws when they were voting on whether or not to join the independence movement (before we were even a country), in part because the elites didn't want to join

Only holdout states like VA didn't give merchants and craftsmen the right to vote before 1800-1810

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>>688522974
Overdose?

>>688514372
your white which means your not american. you just stole america

>>688523290
*conquered

FTFY

>>688523143
No that's already something they do all the time. I mean being white. Maybe not permanently. A hologram maybe?

>>688523129
North Carolina didn't allow non landowners to vote until 1856. Google it.

>>688522572
Older skeletons found in asia

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>>688514372
No because, no matter how many years go by, they'll always feel that they are owed something rather than getting the fuck over it and earning it for themselves.

They want all the benefits but not willing to put in the hard work for it.

I blame black music.

>>688523494
>the south
>only niggers and landowners

I only know about the northern states tbqh

the south has always been shit, so im not surprised

>don't free our slaves
>what do you mean our slaves only count as 3/5s a person?

They a

>>688523653
PREACH

>>688523499
That's why it's not 100% fact, it's thought humans either migrated out multiple times sooner than we thought, or homonids developed independent of one another which is unlikely.

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I'm half black and half white and I'm an American (citizen of the United states). What grinds my gears is when a lot of blacks in the US call themselves African Americans. The only African Americans here are long gone and dead, recent immigrants, or dual citizens. I think a problem with this country is that they misplace their nationalism to a different country from the one they live in which the needlessly separates themselves from the other people in the society they live in. But fuck me right?

>>688523712
My point exactly this country was founded for white rich non Christian men As one of those I'm cool with it (well I'm not rich but I am a landowner so I'm in)

>>688516853
>>688517121
Nice memes

>>688523653
Wasn't that nice man killed by somebody?

>>688523290
A lot of the land was bought tbh; Natives had plenty land and would willingly trade it for first world gizmos.
Also how does that stop people being American lmao

>>688523843
They are Africans living in America. What do you expect?

>>688514372
these titties say otherwise
http://1312484.igenapps.com/go-figure#0

>>688524059
Well it was founded by colonists who got fed up with the British.

>>688524354
Who were white and non chritian and rich

>>688519815
Haha, the accents don't bother me, but yes a few of them do be spitting out babies. The few I socialize with are quite chill, but I live in a rural part of America. So it might be different depending on where you live.

>>688520406
Haha, it says nigger in the title. xD I wouldn't take it so seriously and I lost it at the sources.

>>688521028
Well shit you got me there, I have no idea how I will counter such a solid argument.

>>688521193
Obviously no one isn't the same, except for twins which can get a bit murky once you include epigenetics. But the categories are human made.

>>688522572
Yep, I try and explain the same when discussing Indians and America. They migrated here just like the Europeans. I think some of them were right when they say land can't be owned.

>>688523653
Probably bait, but having this view is no different than black believe the whites are oppressing them and are all out to get them.

>>688523843
I think it depends on the context, if someone is asking for my nationally I say American, which I think a good portion of blacks would say. If asked about my race, I would keep it simple and probably say African American or Black.

>>688524203
Well it was probably misunderstanding, more than Indians trading land for gizmos. And the US broke so many treaties from the Indians and took their land that America promise them.

>>688524160
James earl ray. Sounds pretty bright.

>>688523653
Main problem is how black music is oppressing themselves.

It perpetuates negative stereotypes of themselves and it's all about "making it big" or "becoming someone" by fucking over anyone and everyone, taking shortcuts, and putting no hard work into doing it. That's so anti- community, society, country... anything.

Impressionable minds eat it up and they emulate it because it gives them attention regardless of it's negative.

They have no respect for themselves, others, or even property.

https://youtu.be/GVF96Qv7Eu0

Look at how their "community" awards bad behavior.

Jackasses need to so playing so much GTA and get a JOB!

Fuck those parasites...

>>688525352
Most Native American tribes recognised land ownership at least on a tribal level. It was also necessary to stop animal extinctions through a tragedy of the commons.
Tbh I don't think it was a misunderstanding. Lots of Natives even encouraged whites to buy land since they made a buffer against other tribes encroachment

>>688525352
>issue schism

>>688523653
Also, their community leaders fought for their education, bitches don't even do well in school or even go.

They don't even bother learning English.
Now their ghetto English is protected because it's "culture".
(Example: as a teacher, you can't correct their speech/pronunciation because you'll be potentially treading on their culture.)

Immigrants from elsewhere speak better and English is their second language!

Being black just flat out sucks.

>>688525352
I don't see how races are human made, they describe a set of characteristics which occur in a certain population. Usually all the people from a certain region.

>>688521193

> Like the north america indians in mexico who > could (and still can) run 50 miles+ a day in > the sun, or the Scandinavians natural > resilience to cold

I don't think either of those are true.

>>688514372
can white people be american
i mean what about natives hurdur

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>>688514372
If you only knew the future of white people in America.. lol.

>>688527207
>>688527296
>hir
>lel

>>688523653
they do work hard, you are just lying
most likley not knowing that it is a lie

why are racist so afraid of bbc?

>>688514372
They can only ever be 3/5s American

>>688527945
this is a picture of a ape and a child dump ass

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>>688528054

>>688526720
We create the category they are in, there is no such thing as a defined race. There is so much genetic diversity in Africa, we could "create" more races, we are just creating more category and often it is vague.

>>688525906
Well, I know of some cases, not sure if all or even a majority, believed that they were selling hunting rights and thought they could share the land or that it was only for a certain period of time. But it isn't false to say America stole land from the Indian, especially when we talk about the treaties.

>>688527885
>>688527885
>>688527908
>>688527945
>>688527987
>>688528024
>>688528036
>>688528058
>>688528100
Struck a nerve there, huh shillilah?

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>>688528054
there was no joke about my comment, your post was maybe, implying i made a joke would be a lie

>>688514372
I get called Japanese, not American.
Gen 1 Blacks get called African American, not African.
E q u a l i t y.

>>688528142
there was no joke about my comment, your post was maybe, implying i made a joke would be a lie

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>>688528394
wow, how do you operate your internet connected device, being that fucking dumb?

Haha the cake is a lie

>>688528365
>>688528376
>>688528384
I let this happen

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>>688528645
Did not. That was powerful shenanigans