>>688513529
Yeah but the US is funding ISIS

>>688514003
We are funding the cartels too

>>688514003
Aren't the US funding the Cartel too though? The war on drugs is big business

>>688513529
>Saving Soldado Perez.jpg

>>688514003
they're also funding you you fucking nigger, i bet you're on the way to pick up that welfare cheque right now

>>688514160
This tbh
Cartels support Trump

Cartel. They're more funded and organized. It's like asking who would win in a fight: The bloods or the Italian Mafia

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>Cartel has more cash
>Isis live in caves
>both are the lesser race.

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>>688514174
Whoa so edgy, calm your tits down , why u so mad?

At least some cartels help poor ppl and steal oil from greedy Mexican oil companies. Moreover the members and leaders of Cartels our fellows Christians.
ISIS is just angry uneducated mudslim bigots.

>>688513529
Not exactly Mr Global Affairs are you, faggot?
The cartels (let's say for instance the Sinaloa) are mainly about smuggling narcotics. While that is profitable, they do not have the means to outright dominate their terrain and move freely in it. No matter how brazen they are, they're still too weak to overthrow their local government and just be the shotcallers. They're ruthless, and have some muscle but are by no means an army.
Now take ISIS. An army funded by the US, with weapons from the Russians, US and Turkey. Left over Iraqi war vehicles and munitions. Dominant and we'll trained enough to overthrow several governments and create the caliphate. 30 times the manpower of any one cartel. Vastly more battle hardened experience than all of the cartels. Religious fanaticism backing them.

This is like asking if a basketball player could beat an MMA fighter.

ISIS roflstomps.

>>688514477
Man i really wanna see this milf get assfucked. Any more?

>>688513529
This is a head collection contest?
I say ISIS. Those fuckers never seem to run out of heads.

>>688514865
>taking this meme seriously

Nigger, this is like taking the Gardfeld Vs 100 lasagnas seriously

Pick a side and stfu

>>688514865
>are mainly about smuggling narcotics.

not anymore
https://youtu.be/mPEfArQU7tc

>>688514865
so much this
did u see when the cartels twitter got hacked and challenged isis how quick they schmoozed up to them when they got it back? cartels dont want none of that shit kek

>>688513529
The cartels are not a military organization, and most of them are not willing to give their life for their cause.

I'd love to see them fight and then drop a nuke on whoever wins.

>>688515107
Oil makes $$$, this makes sense

>>688513529
the US made sure the cartel would win with operation fast and furious.

>>688515222
got a screenshot?

>>688515222
Even Mexican cartels have tweeters lol?

>>688514704
>stealing from oil companies is good
Kill yourself 14 year old faggot

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>>688515644
yes they post shit like this

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>>688513529
All money would be on the mexicans no doubt, those fuckers are loco.

>mexican sugar dancing

Can't really compare the two. As other anons pointed out, cartels operate with the sole purpose of amassing wealth through drug smuggling and criminal enterprises and so their equipment is and skills is tailored to that end. They are just a brutal and ruthless as ISIS but the main objective of isis is to create a state complete with an army and military grade equipment.
In a open battle field of course isis would win. But again the goals of the cartels are not land domination but instead wealth accumulation.

>>688513529
Cholos =/= cartel
Cholos pretty much only exist in the US and are a bunch of pussies

>>688514174
EU FAG DETECTED, go be degenerate on another board faggot.

>>688516250
yeah WTF is a cholo, i starting hearing that shit recently

>>688516250
it was an irony you fuckhead.

>>688516186

>>>/pol/

>>688516429
lol you faggot

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>>688516429
Look somewhat similar to this. Theyre pretty much the Hispanic/Latino community equivalent of niggers. Here in LA they're everywhere

>>688514663
A of school around the world have broken up for summer holidays.

The rush to shout nigger over and over is a tell tale sign.

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>>688513529
Isis because of founding and civilized world cuck mentality, and most of all because they have arlach

>>688516429
american spic subculture.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IstEhoHL41w

>>688516697
Holy shit

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>>688516866
Well done you fucking retard.

>>688513529
Are you kidding? Cartel works in the background, abusing the system. Isis straight up takes over towns fighting off the military. Cartel still fucked by the navy, just look at el chapo

>>688516697
I grew up in east San Jose. Same shit raider/niner fans

>>688514865
As much as no one wants to admit this. It's truth.

>>688514704

you could literally exchange every noun in that sentence and it would still make sense

>>688516186
Now if the question is more along the line of who is better trained I would probably go with the certain elements of the Cartels. For example, the zetas were found by ex mexican and Colombian paramilitary commandos who were likely trained by the US in counter intelligence, etc to help stop the Columbian drug trade. They operated with deadly efficiency as the military wing of a major drug cartel until they broke off and are now a cartel in their own right. Their ranks are no longer ex commandos but they still operate as a military unit and are crazy mother fuckers.
Isis recruits seem to me like a bunch of Muslim neck beards, much like /b/ except Muslim, who joined isis to be edgy and fuck bitches cause they weren't getting any at home.

>>688514003
They're funding both.

Buy if you ask me I say the cartel. Those Mexicans breed like rats.

>>688517366
why would no one want to admit it?
I smell samefag

It's funny that Islamic militants are flooding into the US thru Mexico. They disregard the cartels and have no respect for Mexico in general. This is wearing thin on the cartels, who are infidels by definition. The cartels are going to band together and form a resistance once the first terrorist attack on Mexico becomes public knowledge. They may be greedy power hungry murderers but that doesn't mean they aren't patriots. Don't believe me, just watch.

>>688515983
that's Chino Antrax

>>688517668
As if cartels have respect for Mexico kek

>>688517668

get your news off the back of a cereal box?

>>688517640
Negative, not samefag. Slut that was my first post in this thread. -_-

No one cares to admit ISIS can be an adequate fighting force because A: If feels shitty to do so and B: most feel that it somehow validates them.
>Generalizes everything
Now, if I smell that fucking bad I guess I'll go take a shower...and empty my piss bottles.

>>688517948
This was told to me in a vision....univision

>>688513529
ISIS seems united with a common enemy. Cartel just kills each other off..

>>688517948
Do you have news on the back of cereal box?

>>688517809
Yeah. I think he got arrested already, didn't he?

>>688517928
and what do you know about that?

>>688518047
>-_-

Stop.

>>688517668
Your info has been proven to be false and was a stupid Facebook hoax that republifags still believe in.

>>688517092
try to find something of better resolution you dumb, dumb nigger

>>688518226
he's already extradited in USA waiting for his sentence :)

>>688518328
But I don't wanna. :3

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>>688517948
Nothin but troofs there>>688517948

>>688518238
They disrespect Mexico every time they violate the Mexican law dude.

>>688513529
The sand niggers would exterminate the cartels. ISIS knows urban and unconventional warfare and they have good weapons at their disposal, whereas the cartel members have no proper training with handling guns or tactics. Alot of the new members are just random idiots that think they are cut out for the job and they are given a gun, a radio, and a salary of roughly $150 per week but within less than 6 months they have to be replaced after they are killed by the Mexican Military, or rather the Mexican Marines cause everybody else is corrupt.

>>688518338
All fact. Proven true by demoncrats

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>>688514174
>cheque
>check-yew

>>688514143
>>688514003
Confirmed tinfoil tippers

>>688513529
Cartel baby

>>688518709
>believing demoncrats

Demons can't be trusted anon

>>688514003
Fuck you JIDF. US is funding the cartels. ISRAEL is funding isis.

Get it right.

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>>688513529

I used to test coke for the cartel. I think they win this.

>>688514003
funding isis?

how so?

>>688518743
Don't call me Surly

>>688518619
Look at this faggot with insider information.

fuck both of em.

>>688515983
Baller

>>688518816
Beelzebub is surly not a liar

>>688513529
So would you kill for money or religion.

Im saying the mexicans are 50 times smarter.

>>688518743
>Looks out window at Canadian flag
Yep.. that about sums up my countrymen, but then again Anon didn't apologize for calling out the other Anon which is totally unCanadian of him.

>>688513529
I'd say ISIS...As far as I know, ISIS has some trainment in guns and combat. Cartels just kill people because it's ez af for them (they just kill civilians).

>>688518877
check the dub dubs

>>688519197
Cartels kill cops and military all the time.

Isis kills civilians all the time.

>>688513529
Isis is basically the Mossad, most ruthless terrorist force from Israel in conspiracy with USA, Cholo gangsters have no chance.

>>688514865
This is correctly stated argument.

>>688514003
What is Op Fast and Furious

>>688519418
Never say never. The French might help the Mexicans.

>>688513529
Mexico vs Israel?, Israel wins by far.

>>688519197
El Chapo's cartel is ran by ex military, it's not like they are just Mexicuns with guns playing Scarface

>>688518877
Yeah, just like with Al-Qaeda and I believe the Taliban. If you do some digging and you look through IS origins you'll more than likely find at least some US involvement. Wether its in the form of weapons and trainingfor "moderate rebels" or equipment, the US is involved. Think of it as a new pretext to stay in the Middle East since the fear of Al-Qaeda is declining within the public.

>>688513529
Hard pick but if it was a flat out war between the two ISIS all the way. They are very religiously motivated and willing to die for their cause. Cartels are in it for the money and want to live to see tomorrow. If it were between 10 crooked Mexican special forces and 10 top trained ISIS it would be pretty equal

>>688519197
Cartels are ex special forces and commandos and they hire ex militia from around the world .

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>>688518932
If you ever been to Mexico like I have you'll know this to be true. If anything, you're more likely to see guys like in pic related than scary dudes in full military gear like you see in the news. These guys are the type of idiots with egos bigger than their actual capability but when it comes down to doing their job they are killed with not much effort needed.

>>688519977
But this isn't deadliest warrior... although it would make a good episode.

>>688513529

Cartels.

Money, drug money cant be compared to whatever money ISIS gets from Qatar and Saudi Arabia.

Ruthless, cartel soldiers have been killing people since they were 13, while ISIS is mostly composed of posers and edgy kids who like to take on peasant villages

Professional, cartel hit squads are composed by ex Mexican and Guatemalan special forces or SWAT officer. Not to mention the hordes of idiot cholos who they can send as cannon fodder.

ISIS is bullshit, if the Russian used the second chechen war method (bomb and kill everything that moves) ISIS would disband in 3 months

>>688513529
ITT: Mexifags defending the cartels because they think they know them.

>>688514003
>>688514143
>>688514160

>Wetbacks

>>688516429
Cholo-
>shaved head
>neck tattoos
>high socks and house shoes
>low riders playing mariachi music at +9000 decibels

They're basically Mexican trash. Just like niggers and skins, they won't do shit to you until there's more than 2. If you ever get invited to a cholo BBQ though, go. Entertaining as fuck

>>688518793
The US is DEFINITELY funding the cartels though. It's not a conspiracy, it's just logic.

>>688513529

Mexican Cartels aren't "cholos", they're just paisa farmers. Cholos are American gangsters of Mexican heritage. Some times the cartels hire cholos who return to Mexico from the USA to do the extra fucked up brutal stuff, but as a whole work separately from cholos. With that said, I'd rather fuck with the Mexican Cartels (Mexico) than the Mexican Mafia (USA).

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>>688513529

Maybe the Cartels would won during the Calderon's period (Mexican Drug War).

But dunno, I think ISIS is quite more creative than the Cartels, bloodily speaking.

Cartel's torture methods are rather more conventional than the used by the ISIS.

>>688520670
Ever smoke Ice with 9 gang members in a travel trailer with mariachi music playing? Not just white here, proper english white. They are trash, but they only don't like you if you are a pussy.

>>688518052
Kek

>>688519977
>10 top trained ISIS

The only trained people they have are the Chechens, all others are euro-trash arabs and village idiots.

>>688521224
Not with mariachi music playing no. It was some shit nigger beats.

>>688516429

A cholo is a chicano gangster. a chicano is a mexican american.

cholo culture started in the 1940s when the mexicans got into fights with u.s. soldiers. it was during the zoot suit riots era. in the 1960s-1990s cholos started their own sub-culture (flannel shirt, khakis, Dickies clothing, slick back hair, low riders, tattoos, pin up girls, Locs, etc). during the same time there was an influx of mexican immgrants into the united states that the prison system became mexicanized. so there was a split between mexican cholos who became the "mexican mafia" and the mexican immigrant farmers who became "Nuestra Familia". fearing that they would end up losing to the farmers, the Mexican mafia restructed itself and became significantly smaller. they made it an exclusive club for all cholos to strive for (and they do). They also put a green light on any street gangster that was chicano who didn't pay loyalty to "La eme" ("the M" aka Mexican Mafia). So all these new bald headed cholos from the 1990s - NOW started using the "x13" number as a sign of loyalty to the Mexican Mafia (La eme). 13th letter of the alphabet is "M" and they became the "Esses" ("The S's - stands for Surenos).

Mara salvatrucha or however you spell it, from el salvador, told the mexican mafia that they wouldn't pay tribute. so la Eme put a green light on them. immediately they changed their name to MS13 to pay tribute.

>>688519602
well is the taliban, it was originally to fight the russians. then with the others, it was to help over throw the lybian dictator and shit as part of the arab spring. but i dont think they ever funded directly isis as it is today. just certain elements that later became part of it, yea, cause we supported the overthrow which lead to isis rule

the world was safer with those dictators in place

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>>688513529
Well, look at it this way. I'll go over their strengths and weaknesses.

ISIS

Strengths
>great at hiding in caves and mountains
>draw seemingly unlimited tard strength from their faith in god
>decent teamwork
>everything is a weapon


Weaknesses
>uneducated as fuck and only speak Arabic
>unwashed and have limited food supply
>many are drug addicts
>no chance of forming an alliance with US or European forces

Mexican Cartel

Strengths
>fuck caves, they dig their own tunnels
>fight for themselves, their friends, and their families
>many are bilingual (English and Spanish) so they'd be able to communicate with US or European forces regardless of where they're fighting in the world
>small chance of forming alliances

Weaknesses
>many are drug addicts
>horrible team players
>pants hang so low they can't run


I VOTE WETBACKS

>>688522077

Cartels aren't cholos. They're farmers or ex-soldiers. They also don't do drugs. It's actually frowned upon and drugs have a negative connotation in Mexico, unlike the west where they want to legalize it. The drugs are means to profit, but they just see it as a gringo vice.

>>688521891
Yeah, that is true. And the same will happen when Assad is ousted as well as the Iranian government.

>>688521891

The Taliban didn't fight the Russians. That was the Mujahideen. The Taliban means "Students" and most-likely are the children of the Mujahideen who taught Islam by Wahhabi Imams in refugee camps in Pakistan. They emerged to rule Afghanistan after the Soviet-Afghan War when the country fell into tribal conflict. The Mujahideen kicked the Soviets out of Afghanistan and the Taliban removed the remnants of the Mujahideen, who they saw as immoral war lords who overstayed their welcome.

The Libyan rebels were 100 percent terrorists. The USA didn't give a fuck though because Qaddafi needed to go.

You're right about ISIS being more of a result of a power vacuum than actual western funding, but the USA has helped out terrorists before. At least terrorists by their own definition. They did sell weapons to Iran, who they classified as a terrorist nation after the 1979 revolution. They sold them weapons in exchange to fund the Contras in Nicaragua, another terrorist group.

>>688518841
And who is funding Isreal? Oh, that's right... USA.

>>688522300
Contrary to popular belief, only a small fraction of cartel members are actually ex-military and even a smaller fraction of that fraction is ex-special forces. A large portion of them are just random idiots that want to get in on it and are given a gun and told to stand somewhere and warn the rest of cops, smuggle drugs, or take care of territory. They are not a paramilitary force like the FARC. And from my experience on traveling in Mexico its not rare to see some of them drunk or high.

>>688514003
>>688518841
>>688522875
You're both right.

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>>688513529

fucking niggers , im from mexico an cartel people are not cholos

they like banda and corridos and they look like this

>>688515090
nigga u just went full retard

>>688518047
>-_-
stopped reading there

>>688523010

I never said that most of them were ex-military. Most are just paisas though, low level farmers or people without a job. They're not cholos. Mexico doesn't have cholos. That's an American thing. Mexico does have wanna be cholos or cholos from the USA who go to Mexico for easy money, but Mexico's gangs are pathetic when it comes to that kind of stuff.

>>688523385
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>>688523115
they like to fancy on instagram

u can see some pics here

http://www.taringa.net/posts/noticias/17597960/Hijos-de-El-Chapo-presumen-lujos-mujeres-y-armas.html

>>688522822
Gaddafi didn't need to go. He was just a big liability because he wanted to implement a new gold backed African currency called the dinar. This was seen as a huge threat to the petro dollar and if they did it that would cause turmoil with the US economy and many other countries would likely follow suit. Do you actually believe they removed him from power because he killed some protesters and violated human rights? Do you know what other country does this shit on a daily basis and no one bats an eye? This country is an arab country and is not going anywhere any time soon

>>688523051
they are the cancer of mexico , trump for president!, im a mexican too by the way :v

>>688523115
>they are the cancer of mexico , trump for president!, im a mexican too by the way :v

>>688523391
You're right about the cholo thing

>>688523806

No, I think you misinterpreted my post. I never said Gaddafi was bad or that he was wrong. Gaddafi was 100 percent right, therefore from the western point of view he had to go. The Libyan rebels were trouble makers. It was nothing more than an Islamist uprising and those rebels would end up being the precursor to the Islamic state anyway. Gaddafi should have mowed them down, but Gaddafi had a lot of enemies. He had too much inside knowledge and from the western perspective he had to go.

The Lockerbie bomber was randomly pardoned and went to Libya. nobody ever questioned why the western governments would just allow it. but they did and a lot of people think they low key did an oil deal with Gaddafi and they didn't want that knowledge being released. also that faggot Sarkozy was probably funded by Gaddafi and wanted Gaddafi out for it. Then the Arabs hated Gaddafi because of his plans for the African Union, which threatened Arab supremacy in the region. The West didn't like his plans for new currency and there was a lot of Islamists that hated Gaddafi being a secular revolutionary instead of a fundamentalist.

>>688523806
kek , mexican people are pathetic

>>688514174
Middle schoolers on /b/ tryna be edgy

>>688524406
Its true, this had to do more with the preventing African empowerment. Especially since most of the world takes from Africa but never gives back.

>>688523010
You forget the fact that in Mexico everybody is drafted in the military because they have conscription.

>>688524661
lol wut?

>>688514477
>lesser race

I wonder if you idiots ever wonder how insecure you make white people look.

>>688518793
Supply and demand faggot, why else would they fuck up everything from south america up to mexico but to deliver your fucking drugs

>>688525019
No, thats wrong too. Its true that there is conscription but usually its just a few hours of drill and social services. They receive no real military training. Military service is voluntary.

>>688513529
The cartel, obviously

Isis has been doing this thing since, what, 2001? Cartels has been a thing for years. They are amateurs.

>>688514865
no you idiot, the cartels have infiltrated their government. They are the shot callers and the only time they get busted is with the help of US federal officers working with non corrupted mexican federal officers. These cartels illegally tax the population of mexicans to do any type of business (taco stand, food mart, whatever) and control roads. The only reason it seems that ISIS is more powerful is because their objective is different. I bet if the cartels wanted to they could fund an army similar to ISIS but that is not their goal. Their goal is to just spread drugs and make profit. Remember that the next time you enjoy your party night with some herb or coke.

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>>688517668
So we are just sating false statements now? You should stop watching youtube videos with no evidence. Explains why our nation is now stuck between choosing hillary and trump. Nation of retards.

>>688525826
>>you sound like a pro-mexinigger cartel stuff , kill your self mexifag :::v

>>688513529
ISIS obviously.
They're fighting military with rocket launchers and bombs.
Mexican Cartel kills pedestrians with guns.

>>688521295
If that's the case, then theyll use the Chechens.

>>688522822
good lord...i also call every hispanic a mexican. my point remains, we didnt straight up arm al-queda, we gave weapons and training to the enemy of our enemy....unfortentaly the weapons and training went on to help terrorist efforts.

however, there are plenty in power who like this because they make a ton of money off of it. possible they planned this out, sold it as one thing, with an underlying goal of the other happening

>>688525764
This thing?
Mexican Cartel fights civilians with guns.
ISIS fights off US military with rocket launchers and tanks.
Different things dumbass.

You know what? Why DONT we send POWs from both to fight our wars for us? Suicide squads and all that. Give them guns, send them out into the designated zones, and have them Duke it out. Kills two birds with one stone.

>>688513529
This is misleading because you put more heads on the Mexican cartel side, isis would win by a landslide. Maybe if combined Mexican with south American cartels if could of been a better match up against the sand apes.

>>688526792
this shit thats right , mexican cartel are pussy , the turn they arms againts the innocent people, isis put they armas against US :::V

>>688526350
yes, because I called them illegal and dangerous. Fucking retard. If you just wanted to spurt out racist bullshit you could of done that without accusing me of supporting crime.

>>688513529
Um the entirety of Mexico would be dust like hundreds of middle eastern villages crushed by ISIS. How is this even a question?

>>688527042
Because we have laws that value human life.

>>688527633
Why? Why do we have to respect their rights when people from both of these groups don't give a shit about the rights of the people they behead, dismember, burn, shoot, and stone?

>>688527042

because the POWs were isis members... when you release a POW with a gun, and send him home....he just rejoins the fight for his home team you idiot

>>688527959
Because were a first world country, not degenarets.

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>>688527959
soo your point is kill both with nukes? , im in :v

Pretty tough since both are entirely similar in weapons and soldiers.
ISIS would win simply because they have more money. And in our current conditions, they could acquire a nuclear bomb.

>>688526792
>ISIS fights off US military

mmm they usually hide from US military (the 4 of them who are out there) and hide in hole when they see the Russians.

For fuck sake they even got beaten by some Kurd militia that uses untrained girls as soldiers.

>>688527096

wut, they only attack peasant villages and poorly defended cities.

they're method of operations is: kidnap foreigners to make gore flicks, capture little girls and kill their parents or go into a city break all the statues and temples, then gtfo out when someone approaches.

>>688528313
Personal experience, or talking out your ass? They destroy and capture cities on a daily basis broseph.

>>688528750
Ya'll have no fucking clue what youre talking about.
https://www.rt.com/news/167636-iraq-cities-captured-isis/
Why the fuck you think this war has been going on for over a cuntury?

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>>688518180
Isis common emmy is anyone who isn't sunni. And even among sinuses they still fought alqaeda

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>>688519977
Even with isis special forces they'd just blow themselves up.

Itd be a stalemate. No candlejacking out of this on

>>688528313
Um the only reason the Middle East is still in tact is because the greatest military in the world is defending the.. You people really have no clue what's going on huh?