Teemo and Shaco

>>688039577
Is it possible to carry with Shaco? Does he fall off?
I've wanted to try him for awhile now but I'm not good at the mind game shit with his ult.

>>688039377
Supp blitz
Adc jinx
Top...garen when I wanna win easy, teemo when I wanna have fun.

I try to avoid mid and jg.

>>688039377
Sion

>>688040396
>I try to avoid mid and jg
but they will carry you to victory and beyond

>>688040099
there are ways to carry with shaco, but it isn't direct.
If you go AD shaco you'll have a great presence early to mid game, and the ability to pop any lone target late game.
Caveat: you cant team fight or force objectives unless you have gotten your team very far ahead or have lots of dragons and play stupid smart.
Personally, if im trying, i go AP shaco.
you suffer a slight mid game depression, but your early game doesn't suffer at all, and 3/4 abilities scale hard with AP and you get full CDR for mroe decieves and boxes.
you can safely pop anyone with just a few daggers, your clone exploding is an AOE monstrosity. Outplay power is just a lot higher.
So you suffer a weird power depression in the semi-mid to mid game, but your late game is horrifyingly strong.
tl:dr
go ad for fun or if u can easy stomp the team if ur ahead early
go AP if u need to carry or dont have a strong sustained AP damage threat, or not great peel for your backline, if they have divers,
AP is just better.

>>688039377
>2016
>playing LoL

i main mcgee

Riven 45%cdr

>>688041477
I'm the noskillz guy who always goes garen top in blind and prays for riven.

>>688041376
ITS TIMEEEE!

>>688041233
>>688041376
these guys know
now is the time of overwatch
overwatched official ranked will eventually be a become a huge thing.
although i hope mccree isnt ruined by the upcoming nerfs.
I'm a hanzo/junkrat/fill primary for defense
tracer/genji/fill for offense.

Singed best champ without a doubt

Top main:
1. Gnar
2. Nasus
3. Renekton
4. Gangplank
5.Singed

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syndra main here, i stomp everyone if mid. top is pretty shit and i cant syndra adc or support either. so yeah... ama

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>>688041477

Yasuo but honestly it's getting demotivating playing against this cancer meta so i just roll with irelia or some shit and get freelo

Banner of Command + Zz'rot portal Heimer
Balls to the wall, full AD no armour or health Yi

Lissandra top regardless of matchup.

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>>688041784
r8 my luck

>>688041997
Sirhcez is my bae

>>688042204
Bronze IV detected.

>>688042169
does banner of command upgrade ulted turret?
why zzrot? i've seen this in normals once or twice but idk what makes it viable

Big question:
would league benefit from the overwatch system of telling you what roles need to be filled?
Perfect league team ex
taric supp, jhin adc, gragas jung, maokai top, carry midlaner.
why? two hard frontline cc tanks, high damage ranged cc catch out adc, carry ap damage mid, strong support.
has teamfight catch out and ojbective control. etc.
however, REAL league of legends tends to have 5 squishies because your top wanted to kayle
mid wanted to leblanc,
your support is sona
jungle is kha
and your adc is twisted fate.

>>688042344
What makes it viable? Top lane can't even fucking touch you, the wave is so strong you win by just placing down turrets and watching as your ZZ minions and bannered minions push the towers for you, tanks can't deal.

>>688042262
eh
0/4
not frog face lucio
not firefighter mei
not sprays youre gnna ever use.
You have made no progress.

>>688042362
>REAL league of legends tends to have 5 squishies
So this is what normals are like. Try playing ranked.

>>688042623
the real is the reference to dunky
my usual play area is my smurf at plat five because holy fuck que times too high higher up/
in ranked people will routinely pick dogshit teams
unless you play with 5 and do that shit (which is fun i highly reccomend)
but again, its hard to have my team of 5 on at a time.
real league is real selfish people picking shit comps because they want to play their character instead of win, yet still are in ranked, and often are on bought accounts.

>>688042604
nah
hockey fan
cute mei
4/4

Adc
Twitch in normals, anything that fits our team/counters thier team in ranked

>>688042362
just had the shittiest game in a long time
rengar jungle (full ad + statikk shiv) 4/8/6
morgana supp 4/4/11, never ONCE shielded anyone at the right time
vayne adc 3/9/2
yasuo top 3/7/2
syndra mid (me, i went liandry, rylai, rod, protobelt, rabadon, boots, because nobody bought a SINGLE health item) 11/4/5, beat cs count of my other allies by atleast 80

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>>688042968
4/4
=> A/A
AVA
stock is up .72 today
your luck is officially 72/100
i needed a little more from you
the luck of the skins is balanced out by the pure dogshit of the sprays combined with public opinion.
enjoy.

Genji

>>688043159
so im hearing i was right hahaha

>>688040396
bronze faggot detected

>>688043302
Sucks being the only one with positive k/d, cs count, proper build and not winning the game. i'm trying to be postiive and give advice to teammates but they refuse it because "i don't need help from a fuckin bronze" while my score is around 11/2 and they're at 1/7

>>688039377
Sona

>>688043645
whats the core item on sona for you?

>>688043257
Awesomenauts? I haven't played in ages. Damn good game though. I always played the plant barfing dog thing

>>688043553
Sure i bet that happens alot, bronzie
Give in to the dark side and start flaming

>>688043748
faggot i've got 3 perm banned accs all 3 over plat elo, you're not talking to a newfag here cunt

>>688043719
Morellonomicon

>>688041997
>2. Nasus
What's your average cs with him?

>>688043747
Hoping this is a troll, but kek nonetheless.

>>688043159
No one played a tank, including you. Of course you lost. Just as much your fault as anyone.
-but muh stats

>>688039377
fiddle, before the rework. i'm d5 but i mainly smurf around to play with friends.

Yasuo main

>>688043553
you're running into the same problem i did a few seasons back. Now after the nefs to khazix's ultimate (no longer 40 percent dmg reduction inside it) and turrets stopping isolation, larger isolation radius, change to Q, etc.
you could no longer 1v5 solo win games.
What you're running into is win lane lose game, and assuming that advice helps.
The normal LoL player hates unsolicited advice. Telling them theyre wrong is toxic. 'helping' them is toxic.
Theyre all children.
If you want to win, you need to learn the macro game. You have clearly mastered the micro if youre going that positive. Good.
Now you should focus on what wins games, not lanes. Learn about rotation times, wave control, and shot calling for objectives and TP ganks bot.
Stop picking champions that don't roam well or support other lanes well because you aren't with a team of five that can handle you not helping them. You need to pick twisted fate, zed, ahri, katarina, xerath, ziggs, and other roamers/globals and hard carries.
Once you learn how to do the macro game, youll end up winning about 75 percent of the time.
Also, just fucking dodge if the team comp sucks, but only once a day.
You'll lose 3 lp, but thats better than 20 and 20 minutes. Versus that next game u will have a better chance for a real comp and can win. it's just statistics. IT feels shitty to do so, but it's worth it.

>>688043881
Why is this so damn believable

>>688044063
sona supp or sona mid?

>>688043505
Jokes on you, I've never played ranked. faggot.

>>688044128
>No one played a tank, including you.
Read the items again and tell me if that wasn't tanky enough for an ap caster mid. don't give advice if you aren't atleast diamond. please.

Test

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AMUMU!!!

Although it appears that I've got a CURSE on me that makes it so I can't leave bronze!!!!

>>688039377
nothing, LoL is for faggots

>>688044586
Then you'd fit right in.

League is 2 much of a bitchslapathon when it comes to combat.
I play Dota 2.

>>688044169
also, things to remember
this isn't a high enough level where farm is going to define your effectiveness.
I routinely am behind about 100 farm from my laner
however, i am up 4 kills, and their botlane is routeinely behind 150 farm from mine and has died 4-5 times.
THis means they lack the damage to deal with my tanks at every other stage, and can no longer contest any objectives or pushes.
So while my laner is effective, he's now fighting essentially 4v3 best scenario(if your toplaner got shafted) and that's still pretty fucking impossible when those 3 are fed out to shit.
So yeah, my advice to you is to use your dodge per day well and dont be afraid to use it, and to master the macro game because that's how you actually win when your team otherwise wouldnt: using higher level strats and organizing a team against one that won't be.

>>688044169
This is the only quality post in this thread.
Others are either faggots trying to advertise Overwatch or fuckers who suck/never play ranked.

>>688044429
Health on a mage is not a tank, dumbass. Kek at that don't give me advice shit while a few lines up you whine that your team members won't listen. Such cancer.

>>688044169
>shot calling
you don't get it, do you? nobody ever listens to advice that helps win the game. i did my part, others can't do their parts.

>>688044169
This. Macro is so important because people are totally unaware of it at lower elo. Just tell your scrub-ass teammates where to go and what to do, and watch the enemy team fall apart against your unstoppable strategy.

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>>688044524
If you really feel that way:
1.) Create a new account
2.) Level it to 30
3.) Played your promos
If you get bronze again you deserve it

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>>688044067
Troll? No troll here friendo

Nice dubs btw

>>688044169
im ganking both toplane and botlane aswell with syndra, successfull ganks, always hitting my stun.

>>688044877
l2p, thats all i gotta say.

>>688045003
>Space Butterfly Prophet
More originality than Dota, League, and Overwatch combined.

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ghostrider1997

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ghostrider1997

Top - Renekton, Garen, Trundle
Jungle - Master Yi, Gragas, Shaco

Gold 3, on major tilt at the moment and have dropped from Plat V mmr in Gold 2 to Silver 1 MMR in Gold 4 and just back up to gold 3 again, but mmr still sucks. Honestly I think it's because Renekton isn't in as good a spot as he was in the early season and Yi has been shit on and is still finding a new identity.

>>688044889
Oh, shut the fuck up. That's such a noob mentality. Your teammates just want to win. If you can be charismatic enough to prove that your shots are called correctly, you'll be fine. People are really touchy when playing video games. To start, congratulate them on things they do well. If they think you have a high opinion of them, they'll be more open to your ideas. But if the way you actually feel about them carries over into your communication with them (which is likely), then it's no surprise they don't listen to you.

>>688045195
Don't bitch about your team when it's obvious to a baby that you picked a hugely flawed comp. And don't whine about other people not listening if you are too pussy to listen yourself.

>>688042096
Yasuo always fucks me top lane, even though I play Renekton and used to win against him it seems like recently he just shits on me because of his early poke

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>>688045197
Trolling aside, its a pretty good game. 2d Moba. Worth it on sale I'd say. Provided anyone else still plays it

>>688044762
league is tons of fun but the fact that its a team-based game makes it hard to climb

>>688039377
Taliyah.

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>>688044889
>i did my part
If that's true the game will recognize such.
Quit blaming your team and focus on how YOU can do better.

>>688045507
l2p

Sona

>>688044889
youre literally head butting into what i just said
if you win lane, you did about 1/4 of your part as a midlaner.
The other part is carrying your team, shot calling, and ojbective control.
There is also a correct way to shot call,a nd i get the vibe you do it in a way that makes people not want to listen. Watch some soloque pro streams and watch how they go about it and copy them. It'll work, trust me.
The big thing is you can't come froma position of being better than them. Everyone hates that and will fuck you out of spite.
>>688044895
to be fair sometimes they wont listen, but if they were smart enough to comp well and youre the midlaner and roaming well and doing stuff right, you can totally ruin everyone and climb
>>688045005
Possible issues
>ganking top
dont do that, top is an island where tanks build cheap effective tank stats. If you kill a maokai top 4 times, he's just as effective as if he's 5-2 or 0-0. It's very inefficient.
>syndra
She isn't a hard carry in this meta. SHe lacks strong mobility, and doesn't provide a lot of utility to her team. Winning game's honsetly requires S tier picks and playmaking picks. I addressed this with better picks
>roaming bot
are they dying? And are you taking the kills?
as syndra, you don't want those kills. The kills will be far more efficient with your adc, as their damage is hyper scaling and ishow you kill tanks, push turrets, and provide threats besides yourself. Your pick can't carry with those kills in general (sometimes yes).
Also her lack of mobility creates large time wasting issues, and he play making is low. An issue here is your pick, mostly. ALso, when u gank botlane, if u kill, are you taking dragon and other objectives to press your advantage?
if your team has ezreal/lucian you will suffer fall off, andnot closing/pressing advantage means theyll outsscale and beat you most of the time if the game goes past 30 (which it is now designed to at lower levels)

>>688045677
"hurr durr you did everything perfectly but you should still focus on how YOU can do better"
fuck off with your bullshit preaching, i'd love to destroy you in a 1v1 mid and feel the silence after you realize how hard you'd get rekt.

>>688045698
That explains why you're having butt issues.

singed :^)

Ez is love Ez is life

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>>688045930
you're either toxic or a troll.
pic related

>>688039377
Draven is the only right answer

>>688045698
>>688045932

The funny thing is I bet his teammates were throwing this exact infantile shit at him and it obviously got him salty as hell. Some kids just haven't learned to observe themselves critically.

>>688045930
Nobody cares if you can "destroy" some rando 1v1 in a TEAM game. l2lead, you fucking scrub.

>>688045770
You obviously have no idea how hard syndra can carry. If only people with a great mind had seen how good syndra is. it's only a matter of time until syndra is a must-ban.

>>688039377

Hecarim, Shaco and Tryndamere.

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>>688045930
With that attitude you aren't going to climb, and even if you did higher elo players aren't going to take your shit any more than low elo players.
I'd suggest working on bettering your attitude for when you want to get serious.

>>688046253
are you even trying?

>>688046246
>>688046073
>>688046180
ITT : new players to league trying to act like a coach

yo, elise main here, spiderbros represent even though elise winrate has been going down dramatically for some reason.

main is another word for i can only play one hero

lolfags cant even find their way to /vg/ what can u expect when everyone thinks its easiest game of the century

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>>688039377
Vayne

>>688046374
Stay salty, babby.

-muh stats

Top: Nasus, Shen
Mid: Yasuo, Zed
Jungle: Rengar, Kha'Zix

Don't usually play bot but if I do it's usually adc as Draven, Lucian or Jhin

>>688046374
In this response:
obvious troll or player who wants to act good and defend their poor tactics as correct but others sucking by performing personal attacks on experienced players offering real advice.
again
are you even trying, your bait is poor.

>>688044383
Kek

>>688039377
I main overwatch

>>688046374
I've been playing since s2, but you're implying that one can't possess basic strategy outside of league. All video-games are similar.

>>688046670
>>688046516
Obvious wanna-be coachfags have no idea how well syndra-mid can be. get educated, start accepting that perfect gameplay exists, then start talking with ego.

>>688046418
ah,
the winrate decline has to do with build issues and meta shifting. (mage meta is weaker for her because she benefits highly from being able to avoid MR in her build and CC in the environment, both of which mage/tank meta sort of encourages)
Don't worry, still highly viable.
Although she's most effective in split push/rotation comps, early comps, comps where their adc is lucian/ezreal (fall off), or immobile adc, and comps where she can go higher damage.
SPIDER REPRESENT.

>>688046963
>start accepting that perfect gameplay exists

Bwahahahahahaha

Ohwaityourseriousletmelaughharder.jpg

>>688046963
Perfect gameplay exists, but you definitely do not possess it.

>>688046253
dat point and click lame ult

>>688047136
cringed

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>>688046963
you aren't even trying dude.
>wanna-be
>well can be
>get educated
>perfect gameplay
>ego
you need to change your vocab if you want to bait better. This makes me sad.

>>688047201
simple/narrow minded. kys.

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Thinking about running this glorious bastard jungle/top, any thoughts or advice from the salt mines?

>>688046963
Perfect gameplay? Oh my, which pro team pays you for your perfect gameplay?

Fucking retard.

>>688047207
>point and click
whoa. that's new.

>>688047295
Okay then, I'll be open-minded. Please, link me to a video of you playing perfect.

>>688047327
forever OP and viable

>>688047087
>build issues

the story of elise, I started maining her right after they gutted her and haven't given up yet. I even used magic pen quints before they buffed her back to viability. unfortunately im high silver and no one properly rotates in my mmr. I win mostly when I play ranked but its such a draining experience since they released dynamic q that I perfer to just play normals. Can't wait for that skt skin to be honest, already got all the others and as long as they make it not shit i'll be hype.

>>688047234
>still thinking its a bait because you can't accept the fact that you meet someone too good for your beliefs
ah, gotta love narrow-minded newfags

I am a darius main top, while being a cho' main in the mid lane

ADC-
Vayne
Lucian
Jhin

Mid-
Orianna
Ahrie
Viktor

Top-
Olaf
Malhpite
Jax

Dont really like to jungle and support.

>>688047327
he's an incredibly strong niche pick.
Look for times to use him, really do.
He offers utility in the form of being a high damage tank, tank softener, zone control, and high sustain and lane safety.
Basically just lane safely, use your TP to gank only (like botlane, jesus fuck its strong)
and use him into teams relying on a strong frontline. It'll make him shine.
Just be sure to adapt your build to the game and you'll see a lot of success.
>>688047454
yeah.

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Sithis isn't here now so hail MALZAHAR!

>>688044293
Support

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Blitz, best support for soloq carry easy

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>>688039377

I only play good games.

>>688047443
I dont need to prove you i'm the best syndra in the world. start thinking like you're talking to the best syndra right now or you'll never be able to understand my view of ranked games. oh wait, you already don't because you're nowhere near being good with any champ to put yourself in the same view

>>688044984
What if I'm in bronze because I'm bad and I try to play Amumu in all the roles? Will this work?

>>688047327
I don´t get why people complain about trundle, all I have ever done is run away when he ults and then rape him when his ult ends.

>>688047620
if you want to avoid rotation issues, i would highly suggest taking her top into health stacking tanks.
It allows you to bully their tank into uselessness, push hard, and rotate with TP.
also a non meta pick which people just lack the knowledge to play against.
Try that. She's also a very specific pick, and her playstyle with the highest success (in yoloque low level) is actually a burst mage since she can actually burst tanks. Playing toplane/split allows you to 1v1/2v1 a lot more and play to her strengths, and as long as your durability is covered elsewhere you can easily function as a catchout/backliner for your team.

does anyone wanna play

>>688047626
>cant accept
>narrow minded.
this is your last reply from me.
please try harder.

>>688039377
Pudge

Warwick

>>688048210
thats okay, i have no need to talk to mere bronzefags trying to teach something new, topkek.

>>688048042
No. That will never work, even if Amumu become the new OP champ. His kit simply isn't desinged for it.

>>688048022
If you think you're the best Syndra in the world, then it's obvious why you're losing. Suck it up and realize that there is someone always better than you until you actually become the best. Which you won't, with that attitude.

>>688048042
yes.
always
because if youre having fun then you're completing the game objective because in bronze, literally nothing else matters hahahaha

>>688048022
You know they really love and appreciate perfect players like you in overwatch. You should switch, you'd love it.

>>688048352
Nah, you're completely incorrect.

>>688048401
im poor

>>688048455
Oh, okay. Good point.

Mid
Azir
Ahri
Viktor
Orianna

Adc
Kalista
Miss Fortune
Ezreal

Top-
Riven.

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My top three champs are (in order):

Taric
Kayle
Annie

Yeah. I like to get beat on and attack people from a distance. I am not sure what that says about me. Teemo and Heimer are fun too.

>>688048062
a big issue in soloque is that knowledgeable trundles pick good times to engage and target well.
Also you most likely play champs that allow you the mobility/peel necessary to do that.
If you look at your other team members when they complain, theyll likely be your tanks or your less mobile members.
He really does cause large problems when used correctly, but is actually worthless if he's not because he lacks hard cc.

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>>688046253
it doesnt matter you fucking idiot. your team still needs kills, ESPECIALLY your adc, its not fucking call of duty. This is why youre in bronze.

Why roam to help others if youre going to take all the fucking gold, dumbass.

>>688048502
Impossible - what about all your sponsors? Cloud 9 has you on payroll, right?

How has your perfection gone unnoticed? It's practically criminal.

>>688048839
says about you?
it says you want to have maximum game impact in assasin meta, really
annie: point click instant stun aoe burst. FUck squishes and everyone around them.
kayle: fuck assasins, and if ur carry is fed, fuck the enemy team.
taric: fuck teamfight comps,
those are high impact champs. Learn bard if u can and youll do troll shit and carry games and do 2nd most damage as the support without building any but iceborn gauntlet lol.

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Draven

ireliaaa is back

>>688049286
Lulz, thanks I guess. I do not even have Bard bought. I guess I should get him. I have seen some cool plays with him, but mostly he seems useless as a support when there are so many better ones like Taric and Soraka.

>afk getting meeps

>>688049533
You like outputting tons of damage on squishies, bulling them until they just intentionally feed, and then you spam all chat like a twelve year old saying you won.

>>688049912
I have played more bard than most people.
Here's the thing, theres a barrier between shit bard and great bard that's very thin.
Your chimes give you mana, allowing in lane sustain to be very high. You go and get them when your wave is no longer farmable and your adc is backed to base or backed off. You grab them during rotations.
You do a LOT of damage, and late game i have about 3k hp and have 1k dmg stored in the meeps.
Fucking terrifying.
Your ult allows you to force flash or a catch out, itll make you feel like a god chaining your ult into an instant binding.
He's a much higher skill support than any of the others besides thresh and janna. REquires a lot of games and knowledge but you become a god when you get him down.

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>>688039377
how bout we post mains from good games instead?

Only the manliest of champions

Pantheon
Darius
Singed

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>>688050620
>Only the manliest of champions
Jhin
Taric
Varus

>>688039377
Malzahar, Thresh, Urgot and Vel'Koz

TOP - Renekton , Rengar
JUNGLE - Ekko , Lee Sin
MID - Orianna <3
SUPP - Thresh , Bard , Alistar
ADC - Sivir , Jhin

AP Sona
Morgana
Supp Nami

>>688050935
>varus

alright look, jhin is his own man and taric is truely outragous I agree, but varus is unironically the aatrox of adc's. Edgy faggot whose never going to be allowed to be a good champion in any decent meta and when he is it ends with items getting nerfed

Still not sure why you shitstains play these fucking WC3 mods so seriously, play a real game and stop thinking you're tough shit for playing a game with 0 execution

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>>688039377
I only main 2 roles:

Mid and Support
both Soraka

top/heimer/d5

Karma, anywhere but ADC
Bard as support
Enjoy playing those two, winning or losing.

>>688051551
>Playing the flavor of the month OP champion.