>>687839921
This is very relative, by the boxing rules the boxers win but by the mma rules the mma fighters win, without rules depends on the fighter.

>>687840637
No rules. Fight to the death. MMA still wins.

>>687840637
/thread

>>687839921
he could stand against them because mma is all about getting on the ground

>>687840753
No. No /thread. Thread keeps going. Fuck off.

>>687840740
this is still very relative, has a psychological factor, it is not anyone who is able to pick up a steel bar and beat someone to death, an athlete is not ready for it.

>>687841697
Hand to hand combat to the death. No weapons. An mma fighter is simply better prepared

>>687842178
the psychological factor still exist both to kill the opponent as by the fear of dying, an experienced military in krav maga for example would defeat both, in my opinion.

>>687842870
I agree with this. But even people in Krav Maga are trained in grappling. An mma fighter will have a better idea of how to get off of the ground with someone gouging their eyes out than a boxer.

>>687842178
and is not just the psychological, it would be a fight without breaks, would require more strength and fitness, fatal blows would be allowed, have a lot to be considered.

>>687839921
Are you stupid?
Boxing rules, the boxer wins
MMA rules, the mma fighter wins

>>687840740
mike tyson in his prime, no rules cage match would demolish most mma fighters

>>687843552
There are dozens of videos on the Internet of boxers thinking they can step in the octogon.

>>687843236
honestly I can't say which one would win but now that you mention it, boxing by requiring some proximity could give an opening for submissions on the ground, this could be a positive point of mma.

>>687843513
The thread isn't that long. Please read.

>>687844091
the octogon has rules and "dozens" is not a really big number retard.
Also, these "dozen" boxers are not the world heavyweight champions, faggot.

>>687839921
Take Ali in his prime, train him properly for MMA, and he would have eviscerated any of them.

mma
>murifags reality tv show
EPIC KEK AT ALL THIS FAGS SAD AND PHATETIC
SAGED.

>>687844456
I'm sorry I just don't see how any boxer is going to be able to stop someone from taking them down and breaking their arm. I don't care how good of a boxer you are it would be like taking an amateur to the ground for any grappler.

implying everythin on tv is not staged

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milo_of_Croton

Pick out one MMA boxer you think could beat this guy in a death match.

>>687844764
Yeah, but Ali was a fast motherfucker.

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Just a daily reminder that, even in his prime, Wayne Gretzky can't dunk over Shaq. Different fucking sports OP.

>>687844764
if mike tyson charges at you and starts swinging youre fucked.

hes a heavyweight behemoth and he was quick as fuck. it wouldnt be easy to grapple him in a no rules fight

>>687844764
Some are just beyond all of that

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Melankomas

>>687845276
>charging
>literally what every grappler wants

>>687844764
im guess youre about 19, grew up with UFC not boxing, so you wouldnt understand how tough those motherfuckers actually are

>>687845428
not a 120kg rhino dumbass

>>687845537
Yes faggot. Even bigger. It doesn't fucking matter. You are just showing how much you boxing queers don't know about ground fighting.

>>687845537
You you you you cannot beat a ufc fighter its not gonna happen

>>687842178
>>687843505

Fucking children

>>687845746
>>687845813
fuck off retard, you're probably just old enough to even watch a ufc match. Dont talk about shit you dont understand

>>687839921
OP is 14yo and thinks that two, sweaty, fucknuts having a pub car park fight in a playpen is the height of one-on-one fighting.

http://mmajunkie.com/2016/06/twitter-reactions-mma-fighters-on-boxing-legend-muhammad-alis-passing

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>>687839921
Guiz just a daily reminder that an attack helicopter is superior to an abrams tank. The Abrams tankin its prime couldn't stand against an average attack helicopter

>>687846146
A staged pub car park fight

>>687846146
Grappling is literally the most primal form of fighting. You boxers are denying evolution.

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If you're not an experienced grappler you will lose.

If you are experienced, boxer will lose.

>>687846049
It's just someone who knows how to fight. You're saying knowing a certain number of fighting systems or being a former "street brawler" is basically indomitable against someone who's say simply a master of boxing, or taekwondo.

I don't even watch UFC or know anything about fighting. Stop being such a meatheaded blowhard about your personal super heros.

>>687846684
I guess if you feel you have to limit it to that.

A gay little grappler will lose in a street brawl to me if I have a hidden knife

This is a toddler-level "batman is better than spiderman" thread

Fast twitch muscle is pointless when someone gets on top of you.

>>687846978
Space marines vs master chief

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>>687839921
Didn't Ali fight a kick boxer?

>>687846703
im saying there is an element of savagery that comes in a no rules contest fuckface. if you dont watch ufc or boxing then stfu faggot

>>687839921
Doesn't matter. Both train their whole lives to be good at what they do. Comparing the two to eachother is retarded. I'm superior to any MMA fighter aswell. Any MMA fighter couldn't beat me with a fully loaded AK-47 either.

>>687847126
Ok. I understand it's very hardcore and tough.

I can still win if I am a chimpanzee or have a weapon. Primal combat doesn't account for being someone who can forcibly make me submit hand-to-hand because people didn't fight that way a long time ago.

If someone who's relatively good at UFC tries to beat someone who's at the same level in boxing on the streets they're going to get knocked out before they can even implode his kidney after diving to take out his legs. It's about 50/50 whether this happens or not as far as you know, and depends on the individuals.

>itt: faggot neckbeards pretending to know anything about boxing or mma

>>687847082
Antonio inoki, but with shitty rules. Ali had to wear gloves, and throw punches only. And inoki couldn't kick or punch in the top of the body so he slipped on the ground with low kicks all over the fight.

>>687847742
do you have sex with other men on a regular basis?

>>687847742
No no no you fucking retard. You've obviously never had someone try to take you down. Once someone grabs ahold of you you are done. You literally only have one shot to knock them out before they grab you. You want to risk that? Most street fights I've seen have gone to the ground or involved a lot of clinching.

Fuck it I'll even go as far as to say an mma fighter is even a better puncher than a boxer while on the ground. A boxer doesn't know how to ground and pound. All the leverage in his punches come from his legs and body.

>>687848295
The uniformity you're trying to present with people who want to get far as boxers today simply isn't there. If there is a boxer who can easily beat a UFC fighter in a fist fight, he can probably do it just as well on the streets, you "fucking retard". I understand that it would be hard for someone who doesn't know anything about this to try to free themselves from a grapple or a full-nelson. No matter what you think though and no matter how many times your cousin has beaten the local boys, this doesn't happen every time. On the streets, it's mostly dependent on the circumstance, and then on the individual.

You probably think being tougher than the other person pretty much guarantees you a win

Go take your ritalin

>>687848982
You are right it doesn't happen every time. What I'm saying is if you have two equal fighters the mma fighter is going to be better prepared.

>>687849242
Having two totally on-par fighters is rhetoric

Once you are a person getting paid to fight, most are not going to be able to perform only in one school of practice. What you don't understand is that a boxer is not totally incapable of grappling and that in reality many are very proficient at it

Anybody got a link of the stream of the fight tonight?

>>687849744
Proficient? No they are going to be just as good at grappling as any person on the street who doesn't practice martial arts. Besides all of that we haven't even taken into consideration how a boxer will have to adjust to elbows knees and kicks. Face it boxing fags pankration is how humans are evolved to fight.

Bruce lee beats them all anyway

>>687850099
>Proficient? No they are going to be just as good at grappling as any person on the street who doesn't practice martial arts.

No, not really. Not usually anyway. They're athletes not some formula 1 driver. While there do exist boxers who have only ever fought in a gym, at my gym mostly everyone does other things as well. It's just their personally best at hand-to-hand.

It's almost never as ordinal as you're making it out to be.

>>687850730
Retard if they practice other things then they are an mma fighter who only competes in boxing. I'm talking about people who think you can get away with only taking boxing.

Fedor vs Tyson
Both in prime, no rules, no weapons
Who wins?

>>687851130
Well I'm saying that's not always the case. Just because you see someone in boxing ring with another person who they are boxing, it doesn't mean that comprises the total amount of fighting technique they have ever learned (which is what you think)

>>687851359
I'm gonna say Fedor

>>687839921
>i said something, therefore it (must be/is) true

>>687851359
Same thing I've been saying applies here too. Fedor is obviously the inferior boxer but if he takes him down its done. He may even bring him down standing up with kicks knees and elbows. Remember fedor is used to standup combat, Tyson isn't used to clinching or grappling.

>>687851579
It's sad but a LOT of people walk around ever day ready to assert this at any moment

>>687851526
As I said before I know it's not always the case but an mma fighter is just better equipped.

>>687851887
Many MMA fighters have trained in boxing gyms, where almost everyone else has is into other forms of fighting

You're the type of person who sells weed to youth

>>687852372
That's not true. I also sell weed to adults.

You guys know mma and ufc is a fixed sport like wrestling right?

>>687852639
Have fun denying things you know are true because it enables you to continue being hateful

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A boxer who hasn't trained in kicking, grapling, ground fighting, choke holds etc. will get demolished by a well rounded and trained martial artist. Boxing is a much simpler sport. A boxer isn't going to be trained to be looking out for for kicks or arm bars.

>>687852819
I've fought in a cage before. I assure you it is very real.

>>687839921
Like comparing rap to opera. Two different categories /b/ro

>>687853002
I'm sure at the more amature level it is 1005 real. But I also believe that at the top levels there are multi million dollar fixes and deals going on. Plenty of fighters nearing the end of their career will take a dive for a bunch of money.

>>687852990
Not taking into account that the boxer maybe could knock out the MMA fighter with the first punch. Game over, Your opinion proves nothing.

>>687853341
>100%, not 1005...

>>687852639
lol. You're alright man

>>687853341
Obviously same with boxing.

>>687853002
I mean like the ppv shit, the shit you see is all a huge act put on by them to make you invested in a few selected fighters

>>687853360
You better hope you can knock them out with that first punch. As soon as they grab ahold of you you're done. Why risk it.

Can someone please make a meme with Haramble's face on Ali's body? I thought you faggots would have thought of this already.

>>687853360
A boxer isn't that much stronger of a puncher. In fact, I would argue that if they are fighting in equal weight classes the boxer has no advantage at all in striking power. There are plenty of huge MMA fighters that could punch as hard as the boxing heavyweights.

I think you are comparing a heavyweight boxer to a middleweight MMA fighter. In that case boxing vs mma has nothing to do with it. It is down to body size and muscle mass.

Why not compare a heavyweight MMA fighter to a middleweight boxer?

They are all humans. Humans of equal size and weight and muscle mass are going to be similar strength. If both know how to punch then both will have equal power punches.

>>687853565
Once a pussy MMA fighter grabs Tyson, He'll fucking bite his ear off.

>>687853779
This is funny because I have seen very little guys take out very big guys if they hit em right. Your arguments are not to the point.

>>687844091
Holly Holm V. Rhonda Rouse?

>>687853807
>Tyson bites ear while I'm clinch with mma fighter
>mma fighter fighting through pain hip tosses Tyson
>Tyson stuck
>can't get off ground
>can't throw punches while on his back
>Tyson slowly slips into darkness as mma fighter chokes Tyson with his own arm
>"I sthubmit" Tyson mumbles before fading into sleep

>>687853985
Yes the little guy can win. But if weight was not important then there wouldn't be weight classes. You are talking about exceptions.

If you had 100 fights were every fight was a bigger guy vs a smaller guy and they were of similar skill I would bet my life savings that the bigger guys would win more fights than the smaller guys.

That's why wrestling, MMA, and boxing all have weight classes and keep similar sized people fighting each other in most cases.

>>687854021
Glad you brought that up. Ronda Rousey got cocky and thought she could beat holly at her own game. Remember when Rousey submitted Tate? And then Tate submitted Holms?

It all sounds good in theory but the MMA fighter would have to close the gap. The boxer is quick and evasive. The MMA fighter would have to risk being open shooting in for the take down. Holly Holm proved that against Rousey but messed it up against Tate by letting her get too close.

>>687854410
But this is a non-rules fight, so you are forgetting the crazy factor. Alle these boxers are mostly professionals, But guys like Tyson are from the streets, they don't give a fuck and will fucking kill you. Weight classes are just there to prevent injuries and headcases like Ali. If someone is crazy enough they will take on anybody and win.
Two different sports, not comparable, especially when u don't define the circumstances

>>687853779
Where are you getting these stats?

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>comparing two different sports

If a competitive archer fought against a competitive shooter, the shooter would win! WHO WUDA THUNK.

>>687855025
Why are you assuming the smaller guys are more crazy? What happens when the bigger guy is the crazier one?

>>687855496
They never are because they don't have to be because their size gives them confidence.
Smaller guys need that pump to take a big guy down. A big guy is never crazy (not taking into account roid rage) but little guys who are willing to fight usually are. If u are willing to take on a guys that is twice your size you are fucking crazy

>>687856065
Dumbest thing I've ever read. You must be a manlet

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>>687839921

>>687856274
Resorting to namecalling. Satisfies me as a winner, Goodbye.

>>687856862
Would you like me to go into detail on how wrong you are? You really think that big guys can't go crazy like smaller guys?

>>687839921
Mike tyson one hit ko, you mma cuck. Its over before it begun

>>687856862
Resorting to an age old tactic of pussying out of arguments. Satisfies you as a faggot.

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you are all fags of the highest degree.

>>687859513
I agree with this

>>687852639
then it all good mane

Am i the only one who heard about his death years ago?? memorial tv shows and everything. wtf is going on

>>687853002
most of the times it it is all shit talking like ''i am going to kick your fucking teeth in faggot.'' And after the fight it is all like ''oh respect mane give me a hug.'' the shit talking is just getting people hyped for the fight

>>687839921
He's dead, the shaking finally stopped.

>>687854329
>''I sthubmit'' Tyson mumbles befor fading into sleep
kek

this comparison is stupid it depends on the fighters, ali was fast as fuck so a not fast enough mma fighter might not be able to catch him.

>>687850334
An average mma fighter would get Bruce Lee on the ground and destroy him. You're comparing apples to oranges.

fighting is a human vs human thing so there is so many variables that can effect the outcomes.

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Its like comparing a rallycar driver to f1driver, get bent

>>687861698
Stop contradicting yourself

>>687861854
>cats have bellybuttons
I mean I knew they had to have an umbilical cord but I just never seen one before.

>>687839921
ITT people who have no clue about martial arts bitch and moan about martial arts

Pic related: what happens when a boxer gets taken to the ground the first few seconds of the fight.

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>>687862860
Fuck

>>687839921
>MMA

lol

MMA fags.

Watching them "fight" and pretend to act tough is fucking hilarious. And to think, some dumbasses actually take them seriously, too!

>boxer beat each other silly for anywhere up to 12 3-minute rounds
>MMA fighters grapple each other for 5 5-minute rounds, and only for the big fights
>he thinks MMA fighters are tougher than boxers

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>>687840946>>687839921
Stop trying to bait summer fags you stupid shit. Kill yourself. You are the plague that ruins the little light on this board.

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>>687839921
Talk shit somewhere else faggot

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>>687839921

>MMA

Don't you mean:

mm,mm, gay?

>>687839921
>>guys who fight with their hands AND feet are more likely to win than guys who use only their hands.

Thanks for the info OP

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>>687864469
seriously kys tbh fam

>>687843552
Only if he was able to keep the fight standing up.

https://www.reverbnation.com/americanritual/song/9906927-muhammad-ali

>>687844920
True, but where's he going to go if you're locked in the ring/octagon?

>>687853779
99% of mma fighters can't punch nearly as fast or accurately as a pro boxer. Ali or Tyson in their primes would light any mma fighter up before they could take them down.

>>687865427
You can't reason with boxers. They've been hit in the head too many times. They are so confident that they can just knock someone out before they can grab ahold of them every time.

>>687855119
out of the back of his asshole.

>>687852372
And they went into MMA instead of boxing because they were not good enough to become boxers. Who gets paid more, boxers or MMA fighters?