>>686748939
ACTUAL muslim here from yesterday feel free to AMA, faggets.

>>686748939
that they don't exist?

>>686749593
Why do you hate America?

>>686748939
1. There's no such thing as a moderate Islam
2. Refer to 1.

>>686749901
I dont personally, but many people do because you bombed them for 100 years straight, and made illegal settlements in their countries, probably.

>>686748939
They don't blow people up but instead rape them

>>686749593
I think you're a fucking retard because you share the same religion with some of the dumbest people on the planet. I wish all Muslims would die and I instantly hate anyone who identifies as a Muslim. Mohammad can suck my bacon-wrapped dick. Fuck Muslims.

>>686750052
You're basically describing the UK/France/Spain/Portugal/Netherlands, et al.

That they support radical Muslims by screaming Islamophobia every time a jihadist blows up a crowd of innocent civilians, and someone suggests reforming Islam. But that's because there are no "innocent civilians" under Islam, right?

>>686750118
That was not a question, please re read what I wrote, my friend :^)

>>686750181
And the US, also known as "the west" here, which a very good percentage of people dont particularly like.

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>>686750285
Thats the same with those damned Christians. All those crazy bastards killing people in the name of god.

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>>686748939

If you are really moderate like "no sharia", "I'm not better than other because of my faith" and "I don't have to touch women who wear no hijab" you are OK to me.

But I also have to note that maybe 90% of the muslim world won't see you as muslim then.

So I don't know if you are - by definition coming from the majority of muslims - just "moderate" or just like me an infidel who thinks religion is ok, but should not rule anyones life.

I kinda feel sad for you, because your "brothers" fuel hate against you by the american/european people, while also hating you.

Do you agree that we should banish political and radical parts of religion and punish/deport people who want to kill/regulate others because of not sharing their faith?

Seriously tho, I am Muslim and I hate all the refugees trying to shit up other peoples countries. They don't even see they are just gona make europe as shitty as the mid east

>>686750412
>And the US, also known as "the west" here, which a very good percentage of people dont particularly like.

I'd love to know anywhere the US has colonized. Moreover, I would love to know why that "very good percentage" of you "the west"-hating subhumans are flooding into the west like a sewage pipe burst.

>>686750583
No sharia is not moderate, its going against islam, while I am pro sharia I am also in favor of it under circumstances, you cant put sharia in a land you dont own and even then, sharia law is for muslims only, you cant give a non muslim a sharia punishment.

>>686750790
The US falls into the "bombed" category, and were going to the west because the living conditions and education is better, just like you were doing a few hundred years ago.

>>moderate muslim

No such thing. That's like saying 'moderate nazi' or moderate commie. It doesn't exist

>>686751018
>sharia is anti Islam
>I am pro sharia

So, you're anti Islam. Good for you.

>>686750790
Any country under NATO is a US colony. If the US has a military base and troops in an area during peace time, then that place is a colony. So basically all of the Eurocucks are US colonies, as they should be.

>>686751018
We can all agree, you are certainly a few hundred years behind.

>>686751161
Probably bait but whatever, I said "No sharia" is not moderate.

>>686751260
I wonder why :^)

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>>686748939
they would never bomb/behead/flay people themselves, but aren't against it
some even support it: a big part of the 'refugees' from syria/iraq are fleeing because they supported the IS and when the regime and the kurds started retaking land they feared their revenge

>>686751018
The individuals who founded the US went from a developed to a lesser developed land seeking freedom and built it to what it is. Not the same as Muslims are doing. They are trying to usurp a developed land, destroy it, and force feed Islam under the guise of "tolerance." Lest we forget that a non-Muslim is not permitted by law to enter the city of Mecca. How is that for tolerance.

>>686751418
Fighting everyone in the way of Allah is to literally do nothing.

>>686751605
haha wow, I dont, and nor does anyone I know want to "destroy and feed islam under the guise of tolerance", and yes, yes they arent, but non muslims have been in mecca in the time of the prophet and after for extended periods of time seeing as the kaba was a praying place for many other religions, so theres that.

>>686748939
Males the dangerous one/ring leaders mostly.You rarely see muslim woman doing theese kind of stuff.

>>686748939
Dated a few growing up in the Middle East (britfag here), it was fun sending them to hell I suppose. Had to teach them almost everything but it felt so fucking good when I got them round to it.

>>686751515
this

>>686748939

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=83nFiPoSuzU

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>>686749593
Muslims don't hate niggers right

>>686753061
Nah.

>>686748939
>moderate muslim

No such thing, they all follow the same filthy book.

>>686748939
Moderate muslims are like black people who live in peaceful suburbs, white.

>>686748939
Shut the fuck up and post some muslim pussy!

Muslim reporting in.
In the Quran it says 'Do not raise your children as you were raised'
We are progressing by the generation, we're the modern religion.

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>>686753704
the pussy didn't go all the way

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>>686751900
They are all the same, backwards violent garbage

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>>686748939

they say "Allah ackbar" without shouting, and use moderate explosives.

>>686753856
Yeah, for a certain time that was the norm. Along with any other religion that stood a chance.

>>686748939
they show tits or they gtfo

>>686753842
Love him or hate him this is why Trump's muslim ban is such a good idea, nobody want's these people in the west.

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progress

>>686749901
everybody who's not america hates america. It's a nation of arrogant, stupid, armed children.

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>>686753999
They are still pretty enthusiastic about following that bundle of toilet paper.

>>686748939
i know a couple
>dont want sharia law for uk
> halal slaughter is barbaric (she veg)
> just ignores the bad bits in texts like christians do

> one makes her size 3 feet smell for me and presses them on my face after work
>she was also into the roughest sex ever

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>moderate

No such thing as moderate muslims.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_2w4zAken08

>>686754320
If they don't follow the teachings in their Koran, they are truly Muslims

>>686754320
4 muslim grills also hates rapefugees, and cringes at white cucks. A stranger hijabi i met at work yday was saying how asians are racist but only whites get called out.

Strangely its muslim women who are like this, though i have met muslim men like this, its usually the women.

>>686754547
yeah or they are, they believe in allah and the mo is the final prophet....thats all thats needed

>muslims actually believe you need to think its ok to kill animals without justification to be a muslim

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>>686754303
>>686754240

>>686748939
>>686749593
Can i marry as non-muslim muslim girl?
Can i see her naked before i will marry her?
How old must she be before i will be able to mary her?

>>686754811
>people only take 1 1 pic at 1 event

>activists only ever go to 1 event

>>686754303
You could use that logic for any religion, you failed troll.

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>>686754644
Hezbollah ?
>Izvouli

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Piss be upon him.

>>686754811
That guy doesnt even look the same...

>>686748939
only enough to hate the term. You are muslim or you're not. You belive in god or you don't. There can't be in between ... like I "partialy" belive in god.

Alah exists or he dosen't. So which one is it?

Same works for modernate cristians. Most of them describe their beliefs by cherry picking certain sentences from 2000 year old book written by uneducated nomads....

Also remember: the word Alah = Jehovah in jewish = God in english.

Isn't 2016 late enough to stop believing in talking bushes, flying horses, angels, people living inside of whales, zombies, etc. etc. ??

>>686748939
I know that 25% of them think terrorist acts are justified and 75% want the world to be ruled by shria law.

>Not all muslims are bad

Uh huh. 75% are, though. More than enough to justify killing them all.

>>686751418
Isn't that Bible vs Hadith? Do you know the difference?

>>686754443
uuuuuuuuuuuuuuwotototototototo

>>686754811
He doesn't quite look the same person, but this supports my political and racial views so I accept it as the truth. Thank you.

>>686748939
I know they rarely speak out against the actions of the extremists.

I also know that moderate Muslim women are wonderful whores in the bedroom, once you finally convince them to go there.

>>686755721
Pretty much every muslim I know speaks out against actions of extremists. They do so privately and publicly. Don't let your mongoloid views taint others.

>>686755721
so fucking true, muslim women are goat in the bedroom

>>686755875
hairy and smelly?

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>>686753790

>>686755948


No not hairy....as they have to keep body hair down.

No not smelly, because im in a 1st world country

>>686748939
>What do you fags know about moderate Muslims?
U mean unicorns?

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>>686750052
Bullshit. Muslims have been capturing slaves and cutting people up since their conception. Don't blame your shitty ideals on the west. Want the real reason why Muslims are so violent and backwards? Just look at the Koran. Any "moderates" in the west are only moderates because they've had lives in civilized countries with 2000 years of science and innovation, rather than stoning people for showing their ankles.

>>686749593
I want to follow the prophets example and marry a child. What countries would be the best for getting my 6 year old bride?

>>686754172
why don't we just ban all superstitious faggots? oh right 1st amendment or some shit herp derp

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>moderate moslem

>>686750514
Plz show me some modern day Christian jihadism. Make my day

>>686748939
They lie often.

>>686756099
hehe

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At the foundation of islam, like any religion, is a system designed to manipulate human nature.

While one aspect of islam is dedicated to explaining beauty in all things and the importance of family, another aspect is dedicated to subjugation and control of of everyone and everything within a society.

If you took the time to look into it's history and evolution, the institution of Islam is a highly refined social engineering system. mohammud put together a compendium of Jewish, Christian, and arab successful traditions and rules, and used it to galvanize control over arab populations. Much like Christianity, it took hundreds of years before a group of men recognized the power of the writings, and then compiled anything and everything they could find. They used this to, again, galvanize control over arab populations.

Objectively look at the system. Ask why one cannot do or say something. If you are confronted with "Because God said so", put that to the side for a moment and ask yourself if it is because God said so, or because doing so will be an affront/challenge to the systems logic.

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A jihad is approaching; the Western counter strike

>>686756598
This guy is a Shia bumpkin tho

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>>686756389
>That's 'What is the IRA?', Alex.

>>686756598
They also do not allow any discussion about their prophet, because if he is not viewed as a vessel for the divine their religion falls apart.

>>686748939
they become western aetheists

>>686756712
A political army that happen to be Catholics cause they're fucking Irish. Try again

>>686754811
It's a different guy at the bottom, completely different facial features.

>>686748939
No such thing, just another sand lie.

muslims are a death cult. that cult must be abolished completely and thoroughly. we're not dealing with a religion or culture, we're dealing with an etho's that promotes all of the most dramatically barbaric traits of humanities past. They need to be exterminated, they are truly an enemy to all humanity and it's not going to be long before the rest of the world wakes up and see's that. Words aren't going to cut it though, the world will unfortunately have to witness the muslim horde's barbarism on their streets to get it through their heads that the threat and danger is real. We need to have our noses bloodied before we unite and put an end to this cult forever. We will though, humanity has a way of persevering. The muslims don't stand a chance, not in the long run. It may be decades before they're wiped out though.

>>686756858
They talk about their prophet a lot. At least try to be creative with your bullshit.

>>686757036
This will never happen and you are getting worked up for no reason. Focus on your studies and live a good life. Stop imagining stupid scenarios that will never come to pass.

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>>686756712
IRA is a political movement, not religiously motivated like these muslim shit heads.

>>686757000
>a religious (catholic) terrorist group bent on killing protestants
the politics were just an excuse for a modern crusade. doesn't matter that the people they were killing were their own countrymen, or even just a different sect of the same religion (sound familiar?), you can be sure when people divide themselves 'politically' into groups that become internally homogenous from a religious standpoint that you are no longer dealing with 'politics' but religion, and as humans we seem to be wired to hate and kill the 'other'.

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>>686755007
Most religions embrace syncretism and evolve to fill the need of spirituality and structure in society. Islam is still forcing its medieval perspective on its followers. Try looking up the word "fundamentalist", you ignorant piecet of shit.

And, yeah. There are christian fundamentalists as well. The entire branch of Yahve worship is a backwards, aggressive mistake that just won't go away on its own.

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>>686756858

Correct. If you question about any time during the prophets life you will get that response. There is an ingenious catch that has been established to respond to these questions. "The wars and death and evil of this time period are a special time commanded by God and are not subject to the rules of today." With this muslims shoot down challenging logic.

Basically, anything bad is not islamic, and/or a natural defensive response of an oppressed people. Anything good is the glory of God and is the shining example of islams glory. This social manipulation is a mainstay of insecure institutions.

I'd like to point out, again, that this is a social engineering system, created by, and comprised of, humans. They will do catches and other similar mental gymnastics like this all the time. Many other social engineering systems exist. Governments and political ideologies are also social engineering systems.

>>686748939
They do not exist.

http://youtu.be/bV710c1dgpU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQzuFrMRA3M

Why is it that /b/ regulars and other alt right people are pro rape, pro homophobia, pro theocracy, anti women's rights, pro racism, pro death penalty, pro mass shootings, pro bombing civilians, pro war, anti immigration, etc, but suddenly it's a bad thing when muslims do it?

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>sandniggers
>moderates

pick one

>>686758070
uhhhhh
no

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>>686758070
Isis is like 4chan just slightly less gay

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>>686758332
a moderate muslim isn't a friend of the West. what were the Crusades about fucktard?

>>686758601
Territory.

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>>686758070
muslims are perfectly free to do it, just do it over in their islamic shithole countries, not in the civilised west.

>>686758332
>thinking you have any connection to men from a thousand years ago wearing a bunch of metal

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>>686748939
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ry3NzkAOo3s
>4min which will give you answer to "not all muslims are extremists"

>>686758809
That really surprised me!
More people want death for adultery than death for leaving islam.
Interesting

What is a "moderate" muslim, anyway?
Look at the Pew Polls of all Majority Muslim countries and see how universally fucked up they are on all issues that the West has grown up about.

>>686758809
Doesn't really answer the question.
Why is it bad that muslims bring behaviors to your country, if you personally already approve of those behaviors when non-muslims do them?

ISIS

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>>686756712
>>686757000
>>686757357

What many do not recognize is that political islam is a recent phenomenon. Many governments successfully existed in the Middle East without islam as recently as 70 years ago, maybe less. They were destabilized a brought down by Western interests for access to natural resources.

Unfortunately, the posts above demonstrate one of the most dire consequences of these campaigns. Too many people are ignorant of the Middle East without political islam. muslims will use this to their advantage and will argue with you that Christianity does the exact same evil that political islam does and therefore nullifies anti-muslim arguments.

What you need to do is NOT get pulled into this logic, and recognize that the West has fought 1000 years, and sacrificed the lives of millions, to wrest political away from the Church and aristocracies. The Church has been moderated down to a level where it no longer was a serious threat to society.

When a muslim argues that the West is hypocracy, state that the West no longer has religion overtly controlling aspects of governance, whereas the nations of the Middle East do. It is because of this that the situations are so different. And it is sad that political islam exists today and allows backwards logic like theirs to exist in the mainstream.

They want to disarm you and draw you down to their level of circular logic to nullify your arguments. Do not let this happen.

>>686759059
Uhh... Islam has been political since its inception buddy.

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>>686751126
The top right?

>>686759542
That's a sikh boi. Look at the bottom left.

>>686759028
Why are progressives against child rape unless Muslims do it?

See why your question is unanswered? Because it's a dishonest question to begin with.

>>686759059
>political islam is a recent phenomenon

A religion founded as a method to unify the disparate Arab tribes by a caravan master-turned-warlord, whose two main sects differ in who should lead the Ummah, has NEVER been political until recently? You need to read up on your history bub

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>>686759233

So has the Church, so has Judaism.

My post informs the readers that political influence of Christianity, Judaism, and aristocracy has been reduced over 1000 years of violence. Now, these institutions has only permeating social influence that does not overtly influence the drafting of policy.

This is not the case for islam. In the history of Egypt, 70 years ago, islam had a very similar reduced influence over the society, similar to the West and Christianity/Judaism. Unfortunately political islam (which I state as islam having overt control over aspects of governance) made a comeback in Egypt and now controls many aspects of the Egyptian government.

My post also says that because of this governments of the West and governments of the Middle East are EXTREMELY different. The Middle Eastern governments have backstepped into the middle ages, and islam is the cause of this backstep.

My posts final point is to convince the reader, when a muslim tries to commit a false equivalence between the West and Middle East, calling out apparent hypocrisies, recognize that their argument is very, very, weak and desperate.

>>686759897
Except it isn't. Progressive don't support child rape when muslims do it. Conservatives are anti women's rights when non-muslims do it. See the difference?

>>686755379
Americunts are the least educated people in the developed world. Why would you expect them to know this?

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>>686759028
muslims shouldn't be in white western nations in the first place.

>>686760245
>The Middle Eastern governments have backstepped into the middle ages
>mostly with the interference, exploitation, and tacit approval of western governments

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>>686760228

Yes, the Abrahamic faiths are indeed political. What I am stating is that the political influence of Christianity and Judaism have been reduced in modern times, whereas the political influence of islam has actually increased. This is a bad thing. The West is also partly responsible for causing this.

>>686750078
top kek

>>686760569
If you think their values are morally correct, what's the harm in living close to them?

>>686760652
They're not fleeing you neckbeard, they're spreading the word of Islam in infidel countries.

>>686760332
>pro rape
>pro homophobia
>pro theocracy
>anti women's rights
>pro racism
>pro mass shootings
>pro bombing civilians

These are some of your earlier assertions of what conservatives stand for.
You really think that's accurate? Your question was dishonest and I get the impression you are too.

>>686748939
They support isis.

>>686760376
Isn't early morning a America?

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>>686748939
Moderate musims don't exist. Re-open the concentration camps Germany, Europe is burning.

>>686760894
Guess they don't need their mothers, wives, and children to do that and that's why they leave them behind to get the shit bombed out of them while the men complain about having to live in a camp in Germany.
Fucking niggers.

>>686761130
Isn't it early morning in America*

>>686748939
ones born and raised in us and parts of europe are ok, more religious than most christian groups. ones in middle east (kuwait, iraq, saudi places ive lived and basing off of) are a plague. they see any non muslim as a lesser person who deserves to die if we dont convert. its not even hateful, its just matter of fact to them. you could be friends and when radicals roll up its just well been fun but now you gotta convert or die, maybe see you tomorrow. they want isis to win because they want the world isis is trying to create, they may not support the super extremist methods but they do not oppose them either.
the ones in the western nations are extremely easy to sway to this same thinking because of how religious they are which makes hem a threat when you introduce middle east variants into the community. all it takes is a few to turn the community into that and those few dont even have to be radicals. but this will cause radicals to be created leading to shit like in europe right now from the small scale to large scale

>>686760745
Because they are a backwards barbaric people, they don't deserve a modern western lifestyle, they need to be ruled with a rod of iron in some islamic hellhole that their religion created.

>>686756691
>>686756691
isnt it like the same shit?

>>686756112
Another moderate muslim here, not OP

not going to dick around and argue that point because not only is it controversial but the fact is that muslims themselves don't truly know what actually happened back then

point being is this: if your ancestors took over the US, and now muslims came and attacked the US and took over it, you'd absolutely fucking hate us, right?

people believe that you should correct your ancestors right and pay off the debt of your parents. tbh i see no logic in that, but hey, c'est la vie, right?

>>686760922
Yes, all of these are accurate.

Btards and alt righters never admit that rape even exists, and in many cases they are actively promoting rape. See Roosh V, Matt Forney, Cernovich, etc.

Homophobia - do I really need to make the case for this one?

Mainstream conservatives, and alt righters likewise, have been opposed to the separation of church and state all along. Every single conservative Presidential candidate thinks the christian god picked them to rule the country under god's law. So, yes, theocracy.

Conservatives in general are opposed to women's bodily autonomy and health care services. All conservative candidates for President wanted to shut down Planned Parenthood, whose procedures are 97% not related to abortion. Alt righters also frequently suggest that women shouldn't be allowed vote. So, yes, anti women's rights.

If you want evidence of pro racism, scroll through any thread on b.

And yes, they are pro mass shootings. Mainstream conservatives want to do nothing about the ridiculously high gun crime rates in the US, and alt righters actively cheer and celebrate when a mass shooting happens. E.g. Elliot Rodger.

Finally, the conservative foreign policy has been pro bombing civilians all along, especially since W and on. (Sadly this can also be said for Bill Clinton and Obama.)

Which part was dishonest again?

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>>686761372

Correct. Think about the aspect of islam that allows a group of people to not be radical, to be docile instead, maybe considered 'moderate'. The writings that support the docile muslims are easy to live by and easy to defend. Now consider the aspect of islam that supports the radicals. The writings that support the radical muslims are easy to live by and easy to defend. Now imagine them living together.

If you insult one you insult them all. This is the insidious nature of that institution. This is how the social engineering system within islam rebukes challenges. Moderates defend radicals whether they know it or not.

I hold the same standard for Western society. When radicals state that a peaceful American is in their own way responsible for the destabilizing of the Middle East, I don't disagree.

>>686761431
Why do you call it a hellhole when it's your preferred type of society?

>>686760922
Not to mention that progressives were fine with Muslims raping English children. Even went so far as to call the Muslim pedophile ring an "Asian gang" to cover for their pet savages.
Anything to subvert and take down white societies, eh?

>>686762319
leddit strawmanning: the post

>>686762346
You do know that the vast majority of Middle Eastern refugees stay in neighboring countries, right? Turkey has by far the most Syrian refugees of all nations. Your picture is retarded.

>>686762550
>complain about strawmanning
>won't specify which part is a strawman
Good job, retard.

>>686754443
too late she is not the first.

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>>686756712
>Irish nationalism = christian jihadism
its "I dont understand the nothern Ireland conflict" Dave

(honestly religion playes a miniscule role...)

>>686754443

so basically, it's impossible to not offend this person.

>>686762569
Adding to that turkey is a secular country.

>>686753790
bro that wasn't even the Quran that's Ali Ibn Abi Taleb

>>686763005
Semi-secular, I would say.

>>686748939
I have more than 1 muslim friend. Their religion is absolute bullshit and they know it but its a unique case of Stockholm syndrome. They would quickly adopt another identity if everything else in the world did not disgust them.

>>686763005
>Adding to that turkey is a secular country
rather was...when it was ruled by a maniac who commited like two or three genocides...
(everything has a downside)
The AKP tries everything in its power to desecularise the country

>>686762385
No one want's that sort of dictatorial society, it's only fit for muslims, they only understand force and brutality. As Donald Trump proposed, a muslim ban is a good idea.

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>>686748939
Real muslims hate them.

>>686748939
My muslim firends drink, sleep around, eat pork...etc...
they are pretty chill

>>686763359
facepalm
>we don't want THEIR oppressive totalitarian theocracy
>we want OUR oppressive totalitarian theocracy

>>686762319
>when people say there's a big problem with false rape accusations, they are in favor of rape
>homophobia = if you have a dick, use the men's room
>Huckabee is every candidate
>if you're opposed to abortion or being forced to subsidize someone else's abortion, you're anti-woman
>the internet's "racism" isn't backlash against progressives constantly elevating minority shit to the forefront of everything and/or acknowledgement of the fact that races are different
>nevermind that all shootings happen in lefty gun-free zones, getting rid of guns will stop shootings... just like marijuana prohibition always kept me from getting weed
>2/3 civilian bombers i mentioned were on my side but nevermind that, it's you guys and W that actually believe in it.

Yeah. Dishonest.
Back from whence you came now.

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All muslims stink of camel dung, pedo savage sandmonkie bastards.

Extremist muslims want to kill the infidels.

Moderate muslims want the extremists to kill the infidels.

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>>686763386

>>686763693
We don't want anything to do with their filthy book and it's rules, no. Keep muslims and their barbaric religion in islamic sand toilet countries ruled be ruthless dictators, everyone would be happy then.

>>686762569
turkey is actually stopping more from leaving than they are staying of their own accord. they dont want to flood europe with them and some of the events that have taken place were because they didnt listen to turkey and took known criminals/radicals thinking if we're nice they wont be bad. seems that way of thinking didnt work, shame about brussels and all the rapes and assaults going on

>>686755721
>I also know that moderate Muslim women are wonderful whores in the bedroom, once you finally convince them to go there.
how do you do it?

>>686764483
Make a noise like a goat.

>>686763798
1. When you say you are in favor of rape, you are in favor of rape. Additionally, when you defend rapists, you promote rape. False accusations are not part of this argument, but is a completely different conservative talking point with no basis in reality.

2. This trope is related to transphobia, not homophobia. Again this is a different conservative talking point than the one I mentioned, but thanks for adding more examples of conservative bigotry.

3. Yes, all conservative candidates agreed on almost all issues in this primary season.

4. I specifically mentioned opposition to Planned Parenthood as an institution for women's health that has almost no relation to abortion. Yet you focus on abortion. What's that about strawmanning again?

5. Dude, you're literally promoting racism while claiming you don't promote racism. Pick one and run with it.

6. You literally promote increased focus on gun culture while caliming not to promote shootings. Again, pick one and run with it. Can't have it both ways.

7. What makes you think that Obama and Bill Clinton are "on my side"? Those are conservative Democrats. I'm a progressive. Are you really pissed off that I apply the same standard regardless of party affiliation? Is intellectual honesty a bad thing now? However, Republicans have without a doubt put more focus on indiscriminate carpet bombings and full scale wars in modern times, including almost all of this cycle's Presidential candidates. Trump being the one exception, but he's obviously unqualified for many other reasons.

>>686764215
Nice no-source bullshitting there.
By the way, violent crime and rape are at all time lows in the EU.

>>686764721
tl;dr - Tits or GTFO

Why the fuck would you be a muslim in CURRENTYEAR?

lol, looks like /b/ and /pol/ are one and the same.

it's hilarious how confident most of you are in your misinformation and lack of understanding. This full "REEE" against Islam that propaganda got inside your head is exactly what groups like ISIS wants.

The moderate Muslims who live in the west without issue are not a problem. But you keep up your shit and keep alienating them and alienating those who are more level headed and defend them. Let your society get divided.

>>686764949
>/b/ and /pol/ are the same
What, you just noticed this?

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>>686764949
Fuck off, Paki cunt

>>686764855
Thanks for confirming that conservatives can't read.

>>686765081
>not racist

>>686761181
Thought it was Michael Jackson in the thumbnail

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>>686765160

I've read the Koran, it's not worth defending, and neither are muslims, faggot.

>>686765080
I know right? What a newfag.

>>686765231
>not a Paki faggot

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>>686764949
>The moderate Muslims who live in the west without issue are not a problem.

Fuck off you shill, nobody believes your bullshit

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>>686764949
>moderate
>muslims

kek

Their first claim is judaism and christianity was corrupted by their followers. That Muhammad is the mesaiah and the arabs are the chosen race.

Muhammad proceeds to ensure that the same fate does not happen to islam by prohibiting critical thought, having strict rules for handling the quran, ensuring that it is always written, read and understood in arabic.

The laws he set seemed great and divine at that time. He set them in stone. This was his first mistake.

The second sign is that inspite of eveything he did to prevent misinterpretation, it still happened. Muslims can now longer claim to be somehow superior because of their 'puriry' of translation. Muhammad failed to realise the basic flaw in relying on any group of people: there will always be people who perverse the truth.

To top this off, he prevented freedom of thought on religion. He punished questions and basically tells his followers that if you question him you will burn in hell. Allah gives you the power to reason but it should not be used. This is his third and final mistake.

Add to this, the current state of the religion is pathetic, whatever the reason may be. Followers are lost. Do we wear the burka, do i get laughed at or stay true to my religion? This coflict is clearly visible.

Theee is no divine element in Islam.

>>686764949
Spotted the genetic garbage muslim.

>>686765304
That's not at all what we were talking about, but thanks again for confirming that you can't read.

>>686755037
Underrated post

>>686765336
>not homophobic

>>686764835
>By the way, violent crime and rape are at all time lows in the EU.
except Sweden.

>>686764949
>The moderate Muslims who live in the west without issue are not a problem.

The taqiyya is strong with this one.

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>>686766104

Hurr, and, furthermore, durr.

I HAVE read, though, that Mohammed was a pedophile warlord slaver, who drank the urine of camels - can you, using scripture, disprove me?

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>>686766169

Fuck this - you're a poof, Abdul.

>>686766190
Wrong. Violent crime in general are at all time lows in Sweden. Reported rapes are at average levels since the new interpretations of rape laws passed in 2005. There was a spike in 2013 but it has since come back down to average levels.

Why do conservatives lie so much?

>>686749944
/thread

>>686766352
Thanks again for confirming that you can't read.

>>686766430

Sweden falsifies the figures where immigrunts/our colored cousins are concerned

>>686764721
>False rape is a real thing. Women go unpunished and men get ruined. Famous examples include that stripper who lied about the Duke lacrosse team and that Jackie chick in Rolling Stone last year.
After this constant threat that men face, saying women deserve rape (not that i've ever heard anyone say this seriously) would be about like saying "die cis scum"... there's nothing behind it.

>your mental illness does not trump biology
>you think this place is homophobic? yeah, i never see cock threads or trap threads or any other gay shit here

>yeah. i remember the debates as just a bunch of people agreeing with each other

>planned parenthood is known for abortion even if that's not all they do... either way, saying that you'd rather not be forced to subsidize them is not the same as saying women should have no access to an obgyn or whoever... Actually, saying that women can't have these things unless everyone else pays for them is like saying women can't take care of themselves.

>islam is not a race

>there were always tons of guns in the US but the shootings only started once progressive social subversion gained a foothold. This is the future your people chose.

>obama is conservative
>mmhmm
>Democrats are acrually the warmongers... It was Dems that got us involved in WWI (against public sentiment), WWII (also against public wishes), Korea, and Vietnam
>all republicans but trump... you mean the one that most republicans picked? And you forgot the Paul boys

>>686766520

Thanks for confirming you wipe your ass with three pebbles, and want a child bride.

>>686766570
Grab a tinfoil hat, please.

>>686766651
Learn how to use greentext, moron. This is impossible to follow.

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>>686766694

No, u. We're all outta tinfoil turbans, so here's a tinfoil fedora.

>>686748939
the attractive muslims are surprisingly hot under their towels or w/e the fuck they are, and non slutty because they are trained to be shut ins their whole life and indoctrinated to fuck one guy or be killed and go to hell

>>686766688
Nice meltdown. Why does this always happen when conservatives are challenged on their positions?

>>686766779
Yeah. I reformatted midpost. You can manage, there are far less readable things here all the time.

>>686762311
> people believe that you should correct your ancestors right and pay off the debt of your parents

Not in the West.

>>686767108
not true, if your parents owe debt to a bank then that debt automatically transfers like heritage to the next of kin.

that makes no sense.

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>>686766856

Assuming you are the 'can't read' faggot, I'm illustrating how the Koran promotes hatred, and all you can say is 'LOL conservatives can't read, LOL ROFL XD etc'

Muslim people writing here are actually convicted moderate muslims. So they are convicted. Wtf?

They are dirty stinky fucking smelly cunts who should all die

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>>686767258
anything promotes hatred if you want it to promote hatred.

with politics, anything is possible, but if you read into history you'd soon realize the fact that during the islamic age "conquests" were only done versus countries that opposed islam and prevented islamic messengers from entering said countries, hence had to enter by force.

you also have to understand that at the time Muhammad was talking to Gibril, the angel through which God communicated. Whether you believe in that or not is irrelevant, it is the fact that they believed in it at the time. if you wish to read more about it then go educate yourself, you do not need a tutor.

back to our main subject; countries such as Egypt (where I live) weren't forced into Islam. Au contraire, Egyptians were allowed to keep their churches (which they had most of at the time), and practice whichever religion they wished to practice, in return they paid Jizya which is the equivalent of current-day taxes.

in fact, the idea of taxes was based upon Jizya and Zakah.

i know that moderate muslims are having hard times and things will get even harder for them unless they go full ape shit radical like most of muslims

>>686757640
>>686757973
>>686758871

These.

>>686748939
No such thing as a moderate Muslim, only Muslims pretending to be OK until they outnumber you.

>>686748939

It's a myth perpetuated by kikes for white countries to accept moar terrorists

>>686756565
Good point.
But to be honest: I always think of him as a nazi rather than as a christian.
He was also not part of a human killing organization.

>>686767552
Well, no one wants to let more of them in either.

>>686751126
"And now for my next trick ill make his head disappear"

>>686767258
We weren't talking about the Quran, moron. That's why I'm saying you can't read.

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>>686767621
>"conquests" were only done versus countries that opposed islam

Yes, I'm sure the 800 Medinans were killed by the gentle flute music from Mohammeds rainbow-coloured tour bus, as he handed out free bubbles and soft cushions to all.

Saying 'I don't want to be a muslim' qualifies as 'opposing islam - penatly = death.

>Muhammad was talking to Gibril

The same 'Archangel' who told him to fuck a child? Get a grip, FFS.

I think that verses such as 'Smite at the necks and tips of their fingers' etc encapsulates islam perfectly.

Libtards and Muslims use some backward ass logic...They start with

>ISIS kills more Muslims then any other group!

then follow it with

>If you talk bad or profile Muslims they will go join ISIS! Its what ISIS wants!

So basically what your saying is Muslims should all be in jail for racketeering?

Racketeering, often associated with organized crime, is the act of offering of a dishonest service (a "racket") to solve a problem that wouldn't otherwise exist without the enterprise offering the service.

Shit is basically the same kind of tatics the Mafia used,
>Pay us, or maybe your business is broken into

>Be nice to us, or we will join a group that wants to blow up your country.

Fuck Mudslimes

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>>686768091

I am, it's a thread about islam, who's 'we'?

>>686753918
relpace the islamic moon with the 4chan leaf

>>686767607
Go back and read what I said in my previous comment. There was a re-interpretation of the legal language in 2005, which led to a wider variety of sexual assaults being labelled rape. That's why rape statistics are up in the last 10 years. However, that graph is still incorrect. The numbers have been virtually unchanged since 2005, with the exception of 2013.

>>686768178
Myself, and the person I originally commented to with "you can't read". It wasn't about the Quran or details about Mohammed. It was about other conservative talking points. Try to keep up, retard.

>>686754363
imajen a world without oil

>Sharia law is so great
But all you mudslimes moving to places without it because its so good huh?

>Sudan
>Afghanistan
>Iran
>Iraq
>Pakistan
>Yemen
>Nigeria

Go fuck yourselves. If you want Sharia law you can move to Indonesia or Malyasia, they seem to at least somewhat have their shit together. Except when it comes to airplanes.

>>686749593
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AEYVkaDAlMc

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>>686768311

Islam encourages rape, Abdul. Google the phrase 'that which your right hand possesses'.

>>686748939
their existence is equal to that of moderate christians since they are the same religion.

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>>686768432

I AM that man. I am not interested in your circle-jerk anti-conservative, anti-Western, pro-pedophile bullshit.

>>686768532

How'd you figure that one out?

>>686768442
theocracy is indeed the most cancerous and faggoty forms of government.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_terrorism
enjoy.
religion = shit