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You guys do now that porn is actually destroying you, right?
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You guys do now that porn is actually destroying you, right? Like literally, fucking you up on a biochemical level.

When watching porn, your brains dopamine levels fucking sky rocket, which is why it feels good.

>how the fuck is that bad you fucking faggot?

Well, when our brains constantly and frequently experiences such extremely high, unnatural stimulus of Dopa, it releases a protein called DeltaFosB, which basically makes your dopamine receptors less and less sensitive and functional, so you wont fucking OD on your own dopamine.

>so what faggot????

Thats how addiction works, you then need more and more, increasingly extreme porn, just to get the same "high" as when you saw your first tits as a 10 year old. Remember those times, you could jerk off to a pic of a butt, not even naked. What do you need to get off now, m8?

And oh yeah, Pron induced ED. Are you one of the guys who can no problemo get hard with porn, but without, youre a fucking limp faggot?

Just quit it, it negatively impacts a lot of other areas.
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https://youtu.be/2CKuSYzwFkQ

watch this, m8s
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>>686588825
>Just quit it
So to people who are addicted to a specific dopamine response pathway, your advice is, "just say no"?
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>>686588825

Joke's on you, I can't even get hard with porn.
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4159 She was a huge whore.. I have finally decided to release it. Mirror : https://mega.nz/#!i04y1bZa!A4yGbHGZdPelSib8Cye87PVKv8Av5XSBt2Lp3gYrQZo
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>>686589194
I'll be sure to just tell myself to cut it out next time I have the urge to gamble.

With my track record I should be able to test the theory in an hour or two.
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>Thank you, Mr born-again scientist
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>>686589219
Neither can I after 5 years of this website
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>>686588825
Ok, you persuaded me, I'm gonna stop watching porn every day and start havin sex everyday instead. That should drop my Dopa down pretty quick
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>>686589365
Good luck buddy. Maybe this time you won't be such a loser and you'll actually win some money you worthless fuck.
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>>686589194
yes, what the fuck else? thats how you get rid of addiction. Porn taps into the primal sexual urges, you cant just "cut down" your consumption with success, unfortunately, you gotta go cold turkey.

Also, most people addicted to porn, go into a flatline phase, wheer they have no sex drive at all. Because all that fucking porn watching wasnt sex drive, it was PORN cravings.

>>686589219
Well, then its not porn induced, it might be clogged arteries, which is a pre sign for heart attack. Cut down your consumption of saturated fat and cholesterol.

Now here me out, i know that people in the west are fucking biased and hate vegans, but frankly, go vegan. No saturated fat and cholesterol when you go vegan.

I dont wanna force you to anything, just go vegan for a month then, and see if your dick comes back. Stay away from obvious fatty food under than month, just because its vegan doesnt mean it isnt fatty
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>>686588825
Time and evolution will fix this. just stop this homie.Go find your summermoode
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>>686588825
Jokes on you, faggot.

I watch porn all the time and I can still jerk it to a picture of a butt.

I win. You lose.

pic related.
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>>686589608
fuck off you retard

"muh time and evolution" yeah, how fucking long? You seriously think the answer to addiction is "keep on doing it, our brains will addap through evolution"
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>>686589743
i dont really care if you deny this, you dont effect anyone else by fucking up yourself.
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>>686589601
>go vegan

Everything you've said prior to this has just been invalidated. Aside from the obvious douchefuckery involved, as a diet alone vegan is bad for you.
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>>686588825
It keeps me sane, makes me think less about how lonely i am, makes me stay functional because i don't get horny all the time.

Plus my taste of porn didn't really change since when i started fapping.

I really don't see the problem.
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>>686589903
>go vegan.

Yeah, this thread is now about pictures of butts.
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Trying to quit porn for 1,5 years. After only 15 days the life is fucking better. I managed to stop porn for 90 days straight then failed again. Too hard to stop
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>>686589787
But the dopamin shit you are talking about is all around us. Our consumption in general is motivated by our dopamin. You attack 1 angle of this. Porn.
Makes me think you have are a moralist.
>God don't want you to masturbate

Fuck off homie. Masturbation and porn is a minor problem in our society compared to the debt people put them self in to buy shit they dont need.
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>>686590129
gif ok?
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>>686590285
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>>686590005
oh, all this is invalidated? ook, sure. Vegan is bad for you? No its not https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d0IhZ-R1O8g retard. Oh, so what if im a fucking douchebag? If you cant see beside that and look at the content, youre a fucking kid.
>>686590117
In your case, porn is like alcohol. Many drink alcohol to forget about their condition, so they can keep living in it, instead of facing how much it sucks.
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>>686588825

So this is why I'm fucking squirrels now, is it ?
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>>686590117
Maybe you should feel lonely and hornet so you are compelled to find people
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>>686590285
Yes it is, but very fucking little is as extreme as industrialized high quality porn
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>>686590285
I'm guessing it's a woman. Women hate porn because it decreases their value.

Also it said it was vegan.
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I can get hard to a pair of shorts after years of fapping....where did u find this op?
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>>686588825
Guess I better stop eating or petting dogs too. Every positive response provides us dopamine, if I'm jerking off, eating candy, playing a game, playing fetch, listening to music, or anything else enjoyable, I'm getting dopamine.

You're argument is ignorant and short sighted.
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>>686590456
>so they can keep living in it, instead of facing how much it sucks
My main problem is with that is that i think that biological urges suck because they're not logical. I didn't decide that i currently want to spend a large portion of my time to chase after random chicks for a slight chance of getting my dick wet.

Science > chicks.
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>>686590720
"muh vegan is for pussies"

Porn is fucking up your brain on a chemical level.

Nothing new in the way you react though, men in the west react the same to veganism and porn, like religious people do to non believers.

Also, you are addicted to it, so of course youll react irrationally
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>>686588825
>im dumb
thats coo
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>>686590465

Any butts will do.
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>>686590550
Have you met our economic system? all you are doing is derailing, just as porn, people from real issues. You are as much a problem as porn are
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>>686588825
I am a 30 year old foreveralone permavirgin who has never had a girlfriend.

porn is the closest thing i can get.

considering that i'll kill myself long before i hit 40, i really don't care about what porn does to me.

but interesting, nonetheless
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>>686590882
It's not just for pussies, it's physically bad for you.

Drop the "in the west" bullshit, loser. Everyone knows you're from some Podunk town in Nowhere America.
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>>686590865
fuck, go up and read

yes, positive things release dopamine, BUT WHEN ITS AS EXTREME AS INDUSTRIALIZED PORN, IT LEADS TO ADDICTION.

"muh, why should i stop doing heroin? Everything good releases dopamine!!"

Not the same extremity.

>>686590881
biological urges are logical. How is it illogical for someone wanting to fuck?
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>>686590865
Also, don't hang out to much with too good friends. It will ruin your relationsship with "normal friends", they wont spike your dopamin as much
>All of the sudden you only wanna hang with René Diff and Rudi Frederiksen
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How can something created by our own body be called "unnatural"
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>>686591088
how is it illogical that people wanna masturbate? I'm pretty sure it counts as an biological urge
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>>686588825
Cheers for the picture op
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>>686591048
No its not, come with your arguments, why is it physically bad for me?

im not american, are you guys here actually retarded? you seriously claim to know wheer im am?

why is vegan bad for you
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>>686591194
i never said jerking off is bad, i never said porn is illogical, i said its bad.

>>686591157
Wathcing thousands of women and jerking off to pixels is unnatural, thats what i meant.

>>686591107
you fucking retard, ITS NOT AS EXTREME
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>>686591088
The amount of people addicted to porn is practically none. Most people just use it as a sex substitute. Maybe read something not writen by a cult leader about human sexuality.

Maybe you should stop eating plants or drinking watet, I think youre addicted. You should try and go at least 5 days without food or water, the addiction is killing you.
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>>686590456
There isn't a chance in hell that you are a day over 20, so stop posturing.

Yes vegetables are good for you, moron. Eating nothing but vegetables however is bad for you. Not as bad as eating nothing but processed food, granted, but still worse than eating a balanced diet. Much worse.

Incorporate meat into your diet. How about you start with a bag of dicks?
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>>686591088
>How is it illogical for someone wanting to fuck?
If you use a condom you don't get children - so what's left? Oh right - dopamine - the same dopamine that comes from fapping. So how would someone logically defend spending hundres of hours and much money for something you can have for free without all the bullshit?
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>>686591365
"practically none"

nope, thats not true.

yes, most people use it like that. So what, heroin addiction isnt widespread either. Well, it kind of is though, but thats another story.

Oh really, youre saying youll die if you stop watching porn? Cause i dont think you know how analogies work.

its funny how you guys react like this to porn, but with other addictions, completely other reaction
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>>686590456
That's why every vegan is a scrawny weak guy who gets cucked by his wife.

Tell your wife's black kid that I said "happy birfday son." But make sure he knows I ain't coming to see him or shit.
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>>686591207
I'm not here to teach you how not to be a fucking retard. It's not worth the effort and you seem to revel in your stupidity.

Google "vegan is bad for you" and read a bit if you are truly interested.
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>>686589903
>effect
Affect, you tedious cunt.
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>>686591493
This
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>>686591493
"hundreds of hours and money"

lol, its simply sad if you need to substitute your shit personality with material goods to get in contact with women.

Your dopamine receptors dont get fried from sex, weird i know, but it doesnt.

>>686591401
I never said im over 20.

Eating nothing but vegetables? i eat fruit and starches too you fucking retard. You still dont come with any arguments. all you say is bassically "muh, its bad"
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Jerking off and blowing loads to porn is God's gift to men, and faggots like the OP want to squander it with their delusions.

Enjoy porn and being a pervert.
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>>686591831
>I never said I was over 20
HAHAHA


MODS

please get rid of this 13 year old vegan who wants us to stop looking at porn because his single mother couldn't be fucked to give him "the talk"
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>>686591831
How the fuck is sex dopamine and fap dopamine any different? You're getting off for the same reason. Say I wanna fuck a girl with a fat ass and i do and I cum in like 10 minutes. What's the difference between that and fapping to a girl with a fat ass?
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>>686591595
yeah, of course, vegans are weak. because we only eat plants, and muh proteins. im not even gonna refute cultural dogma like this.

>>686591646
nice cup out. Still not an argument, youre wasting your time on 4chan and yet not worth the time, sure. and typing on a keyboard is effort to you?

>>686591740
big deal
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>>686592075
but all protein in the world comes from plants when you trace it back
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>>686588825
It's less like an addiction and more like a tolerance, after a few days it feels like new again.
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>>686591831
What if you have really freaky sex? Like isnt it the same thing that happens. You get sexually more weird with your aging and the more experience you have.

I mean, ever since i peed on a girl at the age of 17, i have never been the same sexually. I need fingers and my dick in the cunt. I need to see shes hurting and pleasured at the same time.

So i can't have experiemental and freaky sex? Cause all of the sudden i dont enjoy the missionary position.

dude, i need to know how old you are, cause you really don't sound that old. Even with your fancy words and styff
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>>686591831
>lol, its simply sad if you need to substitute your shit personality with material goods to get in contact with women.
Nice ad hominem you got there m8 :^)
>Your dopamine receptors dont get fried from sex, weird i know, but it doesnt.
Same should apply for fapping? Or is fapping much more pleasurable then fucking? Please explain what you're implying there.
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>>686592056
i dont know, all i know are the facts, that sex doesnt lead to decreased dopamine sensitivity as porn does. Fuck, you retard think im talking about fapping, im talking about PORN you retarded morons.

>>686592046
you gotta be 18 you dumb fuck, holy shit.

Also, just because i know for a fact that the vegan lifestyle is superior, doesnt mean im vegan. Im not, i dont have the opportunity to be it, my parents are ignorant retards like you guys.
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>>686592164
But not vitamin b12
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>>686588825
Right, I normally only lurk, but I have to second that. Have been off porn for 1.5 w , normally I jerk off every day or two since 13y, now 25. I have more energy, feel more alive, and addiction free for some reason and have morning wood, which i haven't in years.
take it for what you wish, but at least try so you can see for yourself
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>>686592075
Seriously kid, every one of your arguments have been claiming the other side is saying "muh (x)" and yet you claim no one refuted your arguments. Gb2tumbr or make a factual, logical, backed up, peer reviewed or common knowledge statement instead of something your yogi told you in (as you would put it) "muh spiritual lifestyle"
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>>686592205
people arent into freaky sex naturally. believe it or that, thats usually people trying to live out their porn induced fantasies.

>>686592221
its true.

>>686592164
i know. Thats why i dont fucking get how people can say youre weak without proteins

Yes, same for fapping, its the fucking porn messing you up.
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>>686592317
vitamin b12 is found in water and soil. but because of modern agriculture and because water is treated we dont get b12 like that.

actually humans do have bacteria in their bodies which make b12 but thats not enough.

so people eat meat for b12 except the animals they are eating are fed b12 supplements for the same reasons i said before. so your better off just eating b12 supplement. you will get better doses without satured fat and cholesterol
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>>686592455
I knew a girl who never watched porn but was into some freaky shit. What caused that? Just watching her parents fuck?
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>>686592524
thank you, finally a sane person
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>>686592455
>people arent into freaky sex naturally. believe it or that, thats usually people trying to live out their porn induced fantasies
Op confirmed faggot
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>>686591360
No one cares you silly stupid man. Come back with real arguments. But you'll still be a faggot
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>>686592591
nah op your stupid only good point you have is to go vegan. fapping helps people get rid of stress
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>>686592639
/thread
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>>686592579
The first sexual experience shapes a person for the rest of their life. She might have stumbled upon some weird form of masturbation at a very young age and experimented heavily till she found out about 'normal' masturbation.
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>>686589194
>>686589365
Weak willed addicts detected
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OP is an anti-porn vegan
why should we even talk to him

just ate delicious tikka chicken in a restaurant and gonna lurk gif for porn before seeing my gf
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>>686592729
for fucks sake, ok, you are fucking retarded too.

How many times am i going to say this??? ITS PORN not fapping, but PORN thats fucking you up, you dumb fucking idiots.

>>686592702
i know

>>686592639
Im the only one with arguments here.

>>686592607
why am i a faggot now?
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>>686592780
Or maybe not all people are into the same things as you?
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>>686592893
but how can i fap without porn, i need visual stimulation
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>>686592455
>people arent into freaky sex naturally. believe it or that, thats usually people trying to live out their porn induced fantasies.

And you based that on your own experiences on the virtuel world? Many of my fantasies have been created on drugs or alkohol while have sex and then i started to find the porn i needed to satisfy that.

>Good ol' Chicken and the Egg debate

But how did people come up with sexual destryoing porn, when there was no porn to teach them freaky sex? They naturally had thoose thought :O :O :O :O Shiit homie you realize this ?
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>>686592164
Are you stupid for a living? Our bodies create what we call non essential proteins, not because we don't need them, but that we don't need to get them from food. We only need to get the essential ones from food, all at the same time, mind you. seeing as plants have incomplete proteins you have to match them up just right which is why most vegans are skinny wimps (they suck at pairing food). I'm a chef, took years of nutrition classes, end results always show vegans have the least healthy eating habits and forcing a child to go vegan can result in very negative effects.
Multiple kids have died over it.
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>>686592884
because it's fun to argue with retards on /b/
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>>686592884
vegan is factually better.

Im not anti porn, im anti addiction. Are you anti alcohol if you dont want people to be alcoholics? Retard logic 101
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>>686592893
Because you're so fucking preachy. If someone's into something you aren't there's something wrong with them. >>686592607
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>>686588825
Well, masturbation helps lower blood pressure m8. Its a good thing to do.
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>>686590865
Well, you could always just combine them.
When even the most extreme porn is not enough, you can start eating candy while watching porn.
And once you burned through that too, you can start petting dogs while watching porn and eating candy.
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>>686592971
well if you eat only one food of course you are not going to have enough of certain amino acids.
thats just being dumb not because you are vegan. almost everyone eats different foods so they are fine.

and the reason you don't see lots of muscle head vegans is because they are about only 1% of the population and an even smaller amount of them are people who work out.

also your body can only produce those proteins because of the essential proteins which it is getting from plants.
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>>686592907
But biologically speaking humans should have mostly identical taste in a partner. We have two factors that limit this: Genetics (but we know relatively little about this - just that some trans people are actually genetically fucked up) and culture. Culture includes mostly parental behaviour and some own experience.
It's way more intresting to understand why people are different then to just accept it.
Imagine you had the chance to fix your childs mental disorder before birth - would be nice - right?
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>>686592954
not being able to fap without porn, is a sign that something is fucking wrong with you. You really think that human beings naturally cANT jerk off without porn? Are your fucking nerve endings in your dick dead without visuals or something?

>>686592959
On reality.

Youre dumb too, huh? People got used to regular shit, porn tried more extreme porn, it sold, the cycle goes on.

Think for yourself next time.

>>686592971
We dont need protein from meat, breat milk is 5% protein, and that was more than enough for the fastest growing we do in our life. If we really needed protein that much, we would have protein receptors on our tounges like many animals
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porn isn't addictive for regular people
your argument is invalid

everything is addictive for beta/fag
porn meat sex in general video games sugar gambling everything

what is discipline ?
eating meat and watching porn are first world problem you vegan cuck
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>>686589601
so you're saying "go vegan" and "quit porn" and your dick comes back? is masturbating without porn an option?
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>>686592893
No you don't, this is bait you stupid niggerfaggot
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Righto boys I propose you all try something.
Try to quit porn for 7 days to start with, see how you feel.

Best case scenario is it will make you more energetic and less brain fog plus you will have a higher chance of getting a girl (tried and true)

Worst case scenario is it did nothing but you've got a massive load to blow so it will feel good AF.

Just test it for fucks sake. I don't agree with all the points Nofap raises but I can say from experience that it does passively improve you. Or don't do it, bash it and keep throwing BS arguments either way. If its too hard for you then there's definitely an underlying issue..
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>stop masturbating

Oh, not that debate again...
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>>686593467
should definitely go vegan.

should consider stop watching porn, but not as important as going vegan.
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>>686593375
Have you ever read about how old civilizations had sex? >>686592959

>Think for yourself next time.
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We have a sweet tooth for a reason, we dont long for fat or proteins like many animals do, but SUGAR

because fruits, thats why

thats why candy companies color their candies in colorful ways, they dont color them all red or all green, because we are meant to eat a lot of fruit
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>>686593467
>so you're saying "go vegan" and "quit porn" and your dick comes back?
What. Can't you get a hardon or what? Did your dick go on vacation?
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>>686588825
Agreed. I mostly fap thinking of women I know. I only use porn for milfs and gay shit since I have no direct contact with those people.
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>>686593419
>cuck
>an insult
pick one
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>>686593581
you fucking, unfathomable piece of fucking shit.

I SAID QUIT PORN

that equals not jerking off to you? Cause if you cant jerk off without porn, i got bad news for you.

>>686593616
so what? Some people from the past did some shit, so it means biology?
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Too much gaming is bad
Booze is bad
Smoking is bad
Living in an area with polluted air is bad

We're all gonna die some day - not a reason to be a slob - but if your habits don't insta kill you or make you not able to function in society then who really cares aside from your doctor and your organs?
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>>686593566
>random boners are fun!
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>>686593037
>vegan is factually better.
no it's not
> im anti addiction
i understand you are bored but leave us alone
>Are you anti alcohol if you dont want people to be alcoholics?
no that make you a proselyte douche who should mind his own buisness
who do you think you are for wanting things for other people ?

implying people listen vegans and their worthless opinion about porn
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>>686593638
yes
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>Watching porn feels so fucking good

Uh, no, no it doesn't. Jacking off to porn is what feels good. If I'm just WATCHING porn, I don't feel "good".

GG failed on your first attempt.
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>>686593889
We get told daily that our lives, our very existence is bad so we may as well just An hero as a species.
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>>686593869
IT MEANS ITS NOT BECAUSE OF THE PORNO INDUSTRY THAT PEOPLE ARE FUCK UP SEXUALLY. THE PORN INDUSTRY IS JSUT OUR MODERN SOCIETYS WAY OF EXPRESSING OUR SEXUAL FREAKY THINGS (its only freaky if you are a moralist otherwise its fucking fun and rewarding)
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>>686592591
>>686593037
Factually better? How so? You talk a lot of shit faggot, your asshole must be jealous. To get buff and make gains you need a lot of protein. Look at all the "Vegan bodybuilders", they haven't got shit on any of the proper body-builders. What's even the point of being a vegan? If it's trying to save the animals then it's pointless, that food you would've eaten would be thrown out. So in fact, you are worse than meat eaters.
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>>686593869
Go jerk off in a bowl of lentils.
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Been jerking off to the same pair of tits for 15 years. OP is a fag.
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>>686594037
in that case i might just agree with op - coming from a guy fapping twice a day
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>>686594173
post em
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>>686588825
Porn isn't nearly dopamergenic enough to cause down-regulation. It isn't fucking cocaine.

> Well, when our brains constantly and frequently experiences such extremely high, unnatural stimulus of Dopa

Sexual arousal is anything but "unnatural"

You're an idiot and you need to re-take your neurochemistry course.
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>>686593995
yes it is, i bet you cant come with any criticism of veganism that i cant refute.

the fuck is that supposed to mean? I didnt interrupt what ever you were doing you fucknut, you comment on my thread.

Oh shit, where do you live? Where wanting people to have it better is being a doucehbag

>>686594097
no, human beings are naturally freaky.

We start watching porn (insert dopamine explanation here) and we need more, and more, increasingly extreme porn, just to reach the same level of satisfaction.

Youre just dumb as fuck, arent you?
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>>686588825
Jokes on you, I have a jerking off problem not a porn problem. Every few weeks a go 5 days without jerking. By day 3 a can get hard by a fat girl in a coat.
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>>686594433
>a fat girl in a coat
explain
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>>686588825
You guys do know that being OP and sucking dick is actually destroying you, right? Like literally, fucking you up on a biochemical level.

When posting new threads and sucking dick, your brains dopamine levels fucking sky rocket, which is why it feels good.

>how the fuck is that bad you fucking faggot?

Well, when our brains constantly and frequently experiences such extremely high, unnatural stimulus of Dopa, it releases a protein called DeltaFosB, which basically makes your dopamine receptors less and less sensitive and functional, so you wont fucking OD on your own dopamine.

>so what faggot????

Thats how addiction works, you then need more and more cock in your mouth, increasingly larger cocks, just to get the same "high" as when you sucked your first dick as a 10 year old. Remember those times, you could suck any old dick, not even naked. What do you need to get off now, m8?

And oh yeah, dick-sucking induced ED. Are you one of the guys who can no problemo get hard with a dick in your mouth, but without, youre a fucking limp faggot?

Just quit it, it negatively impacts a lot of other areas.
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>>686588825

I watch porn at least once a day u dumb cunt.
for the last what 15 years.

Still hard as a rock the moment my >wife walks into the bedroom.

Don't project your limp cock onto nme.
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>>686594433
True
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>>686592056
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I was depressed but I stopped fapping
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>>686592591
Man you stepped into the lions den with your arguments. Barely anyone here has any other interests than porn and vidya that's why they're so defensive. There is increasing evidence in studies that say that porn is highly addictive and has a bunch of negative effects.
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>>686592269
I know just the place for you.
It's called tumblr.
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>>686594617
Don't be so hard (no pun intended) on him - he's vegan and lacks protein, therefore he searches for ways to make the lifes of people arround him worse so he can feel a little better about his own chemical inbalance.
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>>686594401
if everyone goes vegan, we wont have any animals on farms.

so how will you grow crops because salinity will rise and literally everywhere you farm will turn to dessert
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>>686594932
we have that problem now
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>>686594579
To be honest, sucking dick increases the chance of getting throat cancer.
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>>686588825
do you know what else elevates levels of dopamine???

EVERYTHING ENJOYABLE.

you are completely retarded to the point of not understanding that you can have a dopamine addiction to almost anything you find enjoyable.
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I DISAGREE WITH OP ABOUT PORN BUT HE IS RIGHT ABOUT GOING VEGAN

THERES NOT A SINGLE REASON TO NOT GO VEGAN
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>>686594932
>you farm will turn to dessert
>...
>salinity will rise
not the guy you quoted but crop rotation makes it possible to use a field without fucking it up on the long run
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>>686595136
Bacon.
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>>686594932
you fucking muppet, even vegan farms have animals

it's one of the basic rules when doing crop rotations -- plant/grow crops, harvest crops, let cows in to eat remainder/fertilise, let field rest, rinse & repeat
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>>686595136
exept children who grow up as vegans get sick more easily and have a generally worse development
for adults on the other hand you're right, but meat is tasty m8
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>>686594932
kek, it will turn into dessert, living in a fat fucks paradise.
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>>686595136
Honey farms for one, shits important.
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>>686595343
why would children have worse development?
they would have better development because they would have less cholesterol, saturated fat and hormones
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>>686595594
having bees in captivity doesn't mean you have to eat their food.
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>>686595622
You're fucked cunt. Hormones are what allow you to go through puberty and actually develop. Go back to school you faggot.
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>>686595622
>In theory
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>>686595183
yes, a pigs ass justifies destroying the planet, your health and raping, torturing killing and imprisoning animals in the hundreds of billions,
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>>686588825
Well thanks for the help op and i just love that you had to post if a pic of a nude wood elf dryad thing along with it
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>>686595711
So you expect people to do it out of the good will in their heart and for no profit whatsoever?
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>>686595737
are you stupid i meant hormones that negatively affect humans, like the ones found in meat and dairy.
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>>686595738
>theory of evolution
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>>686594088
Might as well have a pint on the way out, no?
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>>686595822
>raping

you sure you're not on the wrong website?
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>>686595876
are you saying we need bee farms for pollination?
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>>686595622
Nah, that's plain and simply not true. The body needs some of that stuff to build up the cells as a child grows up or the development is hampered.
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>>686595909
Who gives a shit. I'm not on the top of the food chain to eat grass. Meat is used for gains, be an alpha instead of a beta you colossal faggot
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>>686596011
We need wasp farms for shitstains like op.
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>>686588825
Is this why I'm a straight male but when I see a dick bigger than mine it's easier to get off?
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>>686595822
I didnt know you had to rape pigs for bacon
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>>686588825
I have anhedonia and i can't feel pleasure anymore. I hate living like this.
Don't worry im already planning my suicide.
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>>686588825
Na I've been watching porn for longer than you've been alive kid. I can still wank to a cleavage
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>>686595935
In practice vegan kids are not healthier at all.
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>>686595959
I'm sure that you have been living in ignorance.

Cows only produce milk when pregnant, just like every other fucking mammal.

So how can a cow make milk unless you rape it to cause pregnancy? When I say rape I don't mean a bull. I mean that people stick their arm in the cows vagina with bull semen.

The baby then gets taken from the mother (otherwise the baby would drink the milk) and is kept in a dark cage inside a warehouse. It is killed before it turns 1 and it becomes veal.

Anyway whats the point of drinking another animals titty juice which is full of fat, hormones and puss? It tastes horrible, its bad for your health and its cruel and bad for the planet
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>>686593623
>Pseudoscience
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>>686596011
We need them to keep bees (our number one pollinators) from going extinct
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>>686596361
This is the most vegan post in this thread so far.
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>>686588825
if I didn't fap a lot I would probably rape someone IRL
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>>686591360
Sounds like you need some good porn, friendo.
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>>686596361
I'd drink human milk
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>>686588825

This is some reddit-level analysis right here.

You're right OP. I will delete my porn stash and become a gender-fluid vegan. Also I will sign up for Reddit Gold.
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>>686596361
>>686596735
wait what if we raped human women so they produce milk?
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>>686596068
>hurr durr im such an alpha
>i pay other people to kill helpless, harmless creatures and then cut them up and package them
>i go to the grocery store and pick up my dead animal food
>i eat it and get cancer, diabetes, heart disease

>im so alpha, i choose to live in ignorance and ignore real issues because im a man who eats animals that someone else killed for me


No you are not alpha. You are stupid.
I am the real alpha. I am standing up against the majority with a real issue, something that matters.
How can you call yourself when you hide from a problem?

>HURR DURR FOODCHAIN
>I live in a enclosed brick structure where i cannot be harmed from nature or animals.
>get help from medicine against bacteria
>dont have to kill my own food
>pick up dead animal from grocery store in plastic package

You really are dumb dude. Humans are not in the food chain anymore and you certainly are not on the top.


So basically you are stupid, ignorant and insecure about your choices because you know you are wrong.

>meat is used for grains

what the fuck??????
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>>686596361
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Hey vegan's.
Would you eat meat and drink milk from a beeing without conciousness?
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>>686596174
no you rape cows for milk look here

>>686596361
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>>686596914
b&
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>>686596355
I was.
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>>686596891
i think the anon you quoted would also help out with that
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>>686596891
Women can actually produce milk through repeated stimulation.
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>>686588825

[Citation Needed]
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>>686596361
i heard a rumour that there's actual chicken inside these weird birds... you seem to know a lot about the meat industry, can you confirm?
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>>686596986
Anecdotal evidence is not real evidence
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>>686596891

I'll run that idea by your mom
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>>686596914
mad?
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>>686588825
I fap at least five times a day and can still go off to creepshots, selfshots and the like

Just because you need a excuse for ordering chees pizza every day does not mean that others are equaly fucked up
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>>686588825
>You guys do now that porn is actually destroying you, right? Like literally, fucking you up on a biochemical level.

I don't see a problem here.
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>>686597068
forgot to post image, think i'm lacking protein
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>>686596891
No what the fuck.

ONLY BABIES NEED MILK.

No female will get raped, you just need to educate people. People need to know that if you keep drinking milk after you are no longer a baby it is not good for you (cows milk). you could drink human milk as an adult with no issues but whats the point.

WHY DO YOU WANT TO DRINK TITTY JUICE THAT IS MEANT FOR BABIES??
MILK IS ONLY FOR BABIES
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>>686588825
What you say may be true, buuuuutt

I'm not getting any pussy anyway, and I really don't want any. Fuck dealing with women.
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>>686596944
i wouldnt.

its still bad for your health and the planet
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>>686597246
why do you want to drink soy/almond/coconut milk that is meant for baby soybeans/almonds/coconuts?!
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I am also addicted... but to air. Every time I beathe it I feel great, but any time I try to stop I feel bad.
So I guess its time for the plastic bag over the head.
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>>686596914
Dude, settle down. You scrawny sack of shit. That's going to happen either way you cunt, so you are worse as you are causing them to throw that food out. Are you insinuating that by being vegan you are automatically immune to cancer, diabetes and heart disease? Nice try faggot, and I'm he arrogant one? I don't hide from the problem, I know where my food comes from and I'm not a little pussy bitch like you. HURR DURR IM A VEGAN CUNT WHO THINKS IM SUPERIOR. fuck up cunt, you'll die alone for being an arrogant piece of shit. Humans aren't in the food chain anymore? Sorry, we don't all only eat grass like you. I'm not stupid, ignorant or insecure. I'm at peace with everything I've done, you're the only insecure one. You don't eat animals because you feel that will make up for how shitty your life is, but it really won't.
>gains
learn to read you illiterate fuck. If you weren't a couch potato beta, you'd know what gains were.
Stay mad faggot
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>>686597246
>MILK IS ONLY FOR BABIES
>cum is only for the pussy, but people enjoy blasting their load in mouth's and asses
can't explain that
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>>686596735
It tastes like skim milk with a hint of cotton candy.
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>>686597123
i agree anecdotes are not evidence.

but vegan children should be healthier.
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>>686588825
>>686589078
>>686589601
>>686590272
>>686590456
>>686590994
>>686591197
>>686592385
>>686592702
hi faggots, learn something

https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/women-who-stray/201307/your-brain-porn-its-not-addictive
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>>686596361
>animals ... juice which is full of fat, hormones and puss
By a very similar argument, you should also be opposed to vaccination. Can you confirm?
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>>686594401
>We start watching porn (insert dopamine explanation here) and we need more, and more

You should read some Freud. He'll explain that most of, what you call, the sexual destroyed, happens because of some shit in their childhood and the porn is just a way to coop with their negative experiences.

Again the porn industry is just a product of other things that are fucked up in our society, not the fucking cause.
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>>686597246
Let me prepare your next answer:
By letting babies drink their mother's milk, both are being raped by the patriarchy into upholding the necessity for a woman to produce milk and giving it to the baby.
Also that milk isn't vegan.
Give fucking vegetables to the baby.
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>>686597456
>cotton candy
i think you're romanticizing the taste of tit milk
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>>686597456
Sounds delicious
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>>686597354
i dont personally drink that.

i assume that is there to help people transition into a vegan lifestyle as they are used to drinking titty juice. and even these plant milks have no purpose in my opinion.

and plant milks are not meant for their babies?? what the fuck
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>>686590720
Kill yourself faggot. Women don't have anything against porn, but how would you know, you have never left your basement right?
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>>686597530
>You should read some Freud.
Actual psychologists cringe at people like you.
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just smoke weed fgts
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>>686597054
this. THIS
Also, congratulations OP, for such succesfull bait
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>>686597597
soymilk is used for xenoestrogens.
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>>686597545
I think it might be that she had a huge sweet tooth, but that's what it tasted like.
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>>686597456
actually it's more like slightly salty sweet coconut milk

>source: married with breastfeeding wife
>have stuck a titty in my mouth and tasted it many times
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>>686597685
Whatever you say woman. Just know that one day you'll be replaced by sentient fuckbots.
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>>686597713
Explain?
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>>686597360
so you just admitted that you lie about being alpha and being in the food chain.

You claim that i am causing people to throw food out.

Do you know one hamburger uses the same amount of water as 2 months of showering and roughly every 1kg of meat needs 20kg of plant food.

So if you really dont want food to be wasted go vegan you fuckwit.

I dont eat grass you retard maybe you might because you have the intellect of a cow.

>gains

Look at all the vegan bodybuilders, you might claim that they can't do x weight exercise or they are not x size. that is because vegan is only 1% of worlds population and there are not enough vegan body builders


at the end of it all your just dumb.
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>>686594617
Same....
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>>686597374
nah i cant m8 humans are weird

i think it might be something about how abnormal it is that arouses humans
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>>686597354
>english
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>>686597713
not the one you answered.
Actually, many of the best psychologist on my university value Freud, as he made a lot of good ponts.
Agreed however, that shitheads like to read the most inacurate he ever made up and to twist it even more
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>>686597528
no i support vaccination anyone who opposes it is dumb as they are going against demonstrable evidence and the chances of getting autism? are so low
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>>686588825
totally agree with you.

my bf has a porn addiction along side chronic masturbation. But I'm cool with it. He jerks off at least twice a day, I always eat his loads. He has never been able to orgasm any other way besides his hand. Works for me since I'm more into our foreplay than actual penetration. His last relationships didn't work out due to this though, his exes were never satisfied. I'm beyond content with his numerous big loads I get daily. Plus I like gay porn too. So our kinks somewhat match and our sex life fits well
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>>686597947
[citation needed]
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>>686590882
yes yes, white man are again the root of your poor personal problem.

srsly, gtfo
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>>686597947
>one hamburger uses the same amount of water as 2 months of showering
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>>686588825

He is absolutely right.

The thing is you must remember, not everyone is equally sensitive and responsive to this stimuli, some may not be affected as much as others, but the studies and theory behind is pretty solid. There are guys who are going to keep masturbating to this shit and won't be as negatively affected or will take more time for it to start an affect on your life, nevertheless, most of the time, it happens so slow that you aren't even aware that it's happening and one day you'll hit rock bottom, erectile dysfunction, escalating to more extreme porn, you'll concentration and mental abilities will drop, life will simply not be as green as it used to be, because the extensive stimuli from the porn will desensitize the parts of your brain that make you enjoy life.

Porn is cancer that makes you a vegetable.

Anyone who disagrees, just try to masturbate without porn, a healthy, normally functioning, especially until the 30's shouldn't have problems jacking off without hardcore porn. If after 2-3 weeks you still will have problems getting an erection without porn, you are 100% affected by it more or less. That's like fucking in your own competence, it's up to you to find out if you are not already a vegetable, nobody else will care but you.
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>>686592524
Lol do you science or just repeat dumb shit
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>>686594713
So are cane sugar and corn syrup, but it's not like those are leaving the world market anytime soon, huh?

Pretty much everything you're exposed to on a daily basis is "bad" for you in excess. The trick is to not be a faggot and learn to regulate your intake of everything like a responsible adult. And when you inevitably get cancer (if you live to your upper 60s or 70s), you can reflect on the fun times you had for less than a blip of time on this small, blue rock hurtling through space.
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>>686592269
Holy fucking shit, you are the definition of retarded. Go back to Tumblr and join the circle-jerk of faggots and autists.
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>>686598037
did you not understand me? sorry man ive got like 10 people asking me questions im struggling to keep up its just me alone
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>>686598190
Vegans always use that argument like the water just disappears, when in reality it just goes back to the environment.
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>>686598193
you're wrong.

source:
http://www.socioaffectiveneuroscipsychol.net/index.php/snp/article/view/20770
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>>686598225
lol can you prove me wrong?
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are you really arguing about this?
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>>686598124
gay and faggot responding truthfully to OP's bait. Man, you're like the postcard from 4chan
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>>686597947
>only 1%

WE ARE THE 99%!
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>>686588825
Is this why I'm severely depressed
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>>686588825
u wrong bro
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>>686598437
No, ops just a faggot
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>>686598340
Those sources do eventually get replenished by precipitation, but that can be a very long, slow process—with groundwater, for example, it can take hundreds or even thousands of years.
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>>686598407
not entirely, my bf has been porn addicted for two decades. He has a wonderful penor. Not a faggot only one of us has said penor.
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>>686598352

Bitch please, I've been on this for 2 years now and I can say I've found everything so far against this to be a logical fallacy. It's you who needs to study more.

http://yourbrainonporn.com/
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>>686598340
yeah it does, but it takes a LONG TIME and thats why it is considered to be "wasted"
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>>686598529
Where do you think all that water goes then?
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>>686597838
Them being a woman only makes their point stronger anon.
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>>686597947
I never denied either, I think the lack of food you are eating is giving you delusions. Well, they produce food for the majority and minority who do infact eat the meat most of the time, but people like you who aren't eating it cause leftovers which will be thrown away. Is that not obvious? Holy fuck, are you autistic? Cite that you autist. If you don't want food to be wasted, get the fuck off your high horse cunt, you're no different to everyone else, you just claim it. I just said I eat meat, your joke was shit just like your life. God fucking damn you're stupid, to make proper gains you need meat. Ask any personal trainer, ask anyone. You can't get the most out of it without meat.
>becomes a vegan to feel high and mighty and think that his worthless life means something
Yeah, we're the dumb ones. Do us a favour and kill yourself.
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>>686598620
>Your brain on porn
Totally not a biased source
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>>686598620
i've already studied that site. did you even read the study? here's another site that covers the same study, maybe it'll be easier for u to understand:

https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/women-who-stray/201307/your-brain-porn-its-not-addictive
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>>686598646
>I never denied either, I think the lack of food you are eating is giving you delusions. Well, they produce food for the majority and minority who do infact eat the meat most of the time, but people like you who aren't eating it cause leftovers which will be thrown away. Is that not obvious? Holy fuck, are you autistic? Cite that you autist. If you don't want food to be wasted, get the fuck off your high horse cunt, you're no different to everyone else, you just claim it. I just said I eat meat, your joke was shit just like your life. God fucking damn you're stupid, to make proper gains you need meat. Ask any personal trainer, ask anyone. You can't get the most out of it without meat.


can you please retype this in context i am confused.
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>>686598617
ok
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>>686588825
So what you're saying is that if we watch porn we get sexually satisfied harder?

So basically we'll be lasting longer in bed?

You just motivated me to watch more porn OP.
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>>686598874
>>686598646
oh and also explain what magical properties meat has that it and only it is necessary for muscle development and why without meat you cannot develop muscles?
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>>686588825
Ah, thank god; so it's the porn that's giving me the limp dick.

I thought it was just how fat and ugly ur mum was faggot
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>>686595622
Gastroenterologist here.

The reason you really need to balance your intake of both meats and vegetables/fruits is because of the micro organisms living in your intestinal tract. Those symbiotic microbes are what allow you to digest food, as well as regulate various hormones and chemical releases throughout your body.

From a simpler perspective, those microbes in your guts actually do control most of your personality -- they send chemical signals to your brain telling you what you want to eat based on what they need to survive. We're puppets to parasites that we also need to survive.

Going full vegan (or full meat bro) can seriously fuck up the natural balance of microbes in your gut.
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>>686597532
what the fuck?
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>>686598630
i am not sure.

im pretty sure you could find out if you did a quick search on google
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