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>In skype call with friends
>Politics comes up
>"Trump will win no matter what"
>Me, a Bernie supporter, brings up the facts that Bernie has a fighting chance against trump.
>Friends dismiss this with the "trillions of dollars of debt caused by his proposals"
>Show them the plans for making back atleast 18 trillion from new proposals
>Still get dismissed.
>Show how Trump wall will cost atleast 10 trillion.

/b Please help me show my friends how corrupt and terrible trump is.
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>>684459336
You're wasting your time. They're not responding to his policies, they're responding to the primate dominance game.
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>>684459336
Mexico will pay for the wall. Who cares how much it costs. Bernie is taking other peoples money. How is that fair to you?
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>>684459336
Look in the mirror. Now say out loud "I know free healthcare and education is ridiculous. I know that I am a cuck"

Admitting you have a problem is the first step towards recovery
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...I don't get it, people don't realize that there is actually no chance for Bernie to win anymore? Its Hillary vs Trump.
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>>684459830
Because the bernie people are delusional as fuck. There are a bunch of retarded facebook "graphs" showing that how if Bernie would run independent he would stomp both hilary and trump. But somehow he can't even fucking beat Hilary in a primary. Bitches be delusional
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>>684459714
>Taking other people's money
>Means taxes
>mfw the taxes are being reallocated, not more taken
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>>684460013
>can't even fucking beat Hillary in a primary

Except that out of the last 21 primaries he's won 14...?
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>>684459830
NO! Bernie will win!!
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>>684459336
how do you not understand that mexicans are paying for the wall

fucking retard
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>>684460118
Great! He managed to carry states like Rhode Island and New Hampsire and Maine. Oh wait also Wyoming! Clearly on his way. But who needs those swing states like Florida, Ohio, New York.

You also fail to mention that of the 41 primaries he has won 17. So that is great that he has won 14 of the last 21, its to bad that out of the first 20 he won 3
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>>684459336
Bernie can't even win the primary, you're delusional
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>>684459714
>Mexico will pay
That's not how international relations works, tho
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Think of the chaos in the streets of the US if trump wins the presidency. America has the largest immigrant population of any country, trump is telling them to go fuck Themselfs.
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>>684459830
After what happened in Nevada last night, people are getting pissed. Something big and unprecedented is going to happen at the DNC.
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The wall will cost $10 BILLION, not $10 Trillion, unless he's planning to make it out of solid gold
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>>684460632
If he wins a landslide in California, then he'll be our next president. Put money on it.
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>>684460031
Incorrect.

W/ Bernie's proposal ppl on avg will be paying 1k$ more per year in taxes
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>>684459336
Just kill them. There's no reasoning with Trump supporters.
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>>684460960
Except that in the polls he is down 9 points to Hilary. So even if he manages to win which is a big if, he isn't going to "win by a landslide"
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>>684461003
And $0 per year on healthcare or tuition.
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You know what I hate the most about all this misinformed idiots who claim Trump is the devil? That they think that building the wall is going to stop everyone south of the U.S.-Mexican border from entering the country.

How fucking retarded do you have to be to try to insult Trump on his views on an issue and not even know exactly what it is that he wants to do?

They see the words "build a wall" and instantly assume that this means every single Mexican is now strictly forbidden from entering the country.
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>>684461113
He was down 40 points in Michigan and he still won. Every primary, every state, his numbers steadily improve right up to the election.
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>>684461151
>Because the first thing the Republican controlled congress is going to do is pass all of Bernie's promises.
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>>684460960
Rofl lots of contingency with that claim.
Also requires Trump to drop out
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>>684459336
Look on the brightside, he'd be theoretically better than $hillary
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>>684461273
If Bernie wins the nomination, there won't be a Republican controlled congress anymore. Every single seat in the House of Representatives is up for grabs.
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>>684459336
Get your numbers right you fuck.
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>>684461272
It was 20 points, not 40. And he won by 1.5%, hardly a landslide.
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>>684461465
And assuming that democrats fill those seats, most don't support his plans either.
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If there is a wall built, don't people realize that will create a market for ladders?
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>>684461593
If he went from -20 to +1.5. An identical performance would move him from -9 to +11.

Y'know, California and Oregon are both reporting record numbers of people registering as or switching to democrat.
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>>684461151
Public health care will cause one of two things to happen
>private health will be forced to become more competitive
>the economy will collapse because the private health can't exist in the market

Either way, the medical industry will Jack up prices because this is capitalism and you'd then be giving them access to a bottomless wallet

Lrn2economy
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>>684460231
I don't think you know how politics work
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>>684461465
Also, they would need to gain 30 seats to take control of the house. In 2014 when the republicans gained 15 seats and only lost 2 it was a shock. I dont see dems gaining 30 seats, not impossible but pretty damn unlikely
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>>684461967
The medical industry will be legally barred from jacking up prices, like they are in the rest of the world.
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>>684460712
Oh look someone smart
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>>684462004
Mmm it sounds like you don't rofl

You can definitely make Mexico pay for the construction of the wall
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>>684462077
>not impossible but pretty damn unlikely

Just like Bernie's entire campaign. Shillary swore she'd have him knocked out by March, yet here we are. She's still scrambling for cash and buying ads like crazy in California because she knows she could still lose.
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>>684460712
actually it is nigger. THere generally are things called tariffs. Go look up the peso before NAFTA then talk to me. Also we can tax money leaving the country for Mexico. Numerous ways to get the funds or destroy mexico. Go look up history.
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>>684462129
You might be retarded.

Getting that law to pass in the US would be impossible.

News flash, the large industries in the US buy politicians to influence legislation. It's been that way for a while
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>>684461832
Yes because both states are extremely liberal so there are record number of people registering to stop trump, not put Sanders in charge. Of the new voters, even if he is polling 60% of those that won't make up the ground.

Let's also not forget that Hillary carried California from Obama in 2008 by a pretty good margin, over 8%
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>>684460791
Actually he is telling illegals to go fuck themselves. Legal immigrants should love him. How would you feel if you did everything right spent 10 years waiting, spent 10k on a lawyer and some brown skinned nigger crosses a stream in the middle of the night and wound up right where you were.
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>>684462224
>You can definitely make Mexico pay for the construction of the wall
Yeah Bush Sr, gave Trump the power with NAFTA.
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>>684461318
>comes out wanting to send mexicans back to mexico
>still crushing hillary among mexican voters

smdh lol
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>>684462753
Most legal mexicans hate illegals ,the only people that has problems with deporting illegals are either illegals or far left freaks
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LET THE NAZI PARTY BACK IN WE DID NOTHING WRONG!!!!
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>>684462329
I am not saying he hasn't put up a good fight and hopefully woke people up. I'm saying he is fucked though.
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>>684463001
We do need to start gassing and burning niggers,spics,homosexuals,jews and sand niggers, I'll give you that
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>>684459336
You fucking cunt. /b/ is a contested board, in order to maintain peace here we don't talk about politics. You're opening Pandora's box asshole.
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>>684462753
>Intentionally misinterpreting the statement he made to make him appear racist
>being this desperate for something to use against him

I bet if he said some snakes are poisonous you'd say he thinks all snakes have lethal venom and then call him an idiot
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>>684462753
My exact reaction
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I wish more people would read Mitchel Heisman's suicide note. The whole biology vs. technology thing is a pristine description of this race.

It's 1,905 pages, though, and you'd have to get most of the way through it to know what I'm talking about.
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>>684459336
We don't need a special fence like in china. Just put up some razorwire and prevent thousands of welfare leeches every night. Fuck you, they hate us you dumb pussy. I'm the least racist person in the world, but if they like you, they start talking about white people this, white people that, fuck niggers. It's all they ever talk about.
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>>684462479
>News flash, the large industries in the US buy politicians to influence legislation. It's been that way for a while

Which is Bernie's entire platform. This way of doing things is the root to almost all of our problems and it needs to be fixed.
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>>684459336
Why are you guys still talking about that clown?
Thats Clinton's game now
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>>684459336
Why are Trump supporters so delusional and think that Trump winning is some sort of inevitability and that the election is essentially a formality?
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>>684463595
Yeah so you should be aware that it's also the root of Trump's platform as well, but Trump can actually fix it.
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>>684463926
It's really not. It most likely is going to be, but it's not.

So, why talk about it? Because people always talk about the underdog. Because they think his message is important. Because he's been hinting at a win in California for a pretty long time now.

I think the real question is, why are you so dismissive?
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>>684459714
>he thinks Mexico will pay for it
They won't and Trumps plans to force them have already been called out as retarded. YOU will be paying for every cent of that 20 billion dollar wall, anon.

Sorry Billy, we couldn't afford college or healthcare for you because we needed to build retarded walls to keep da darkies out
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>>684464310
But will he? Do you trust him to be the first politician to actually do what he promised to while campaigning?
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>>684464194
Because have you looked at any polling information or been on the internet and seen his overwhelming support?
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>>684464310
The issue is that we can't trust politicians to fix a problem which pays them.

Trump says he can't be bribed.
Sanders says his record shows he can be trusted.

Trump gives more reasons to be called a liar. It's hard not to side with Sanders.
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>>684464536
Trump's not a politician.
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>>684464372
>I think the real question is, why are you so dismissive?

No the real question is Why do you think who you vote for would actually make a real change in the status quo?
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>>684464539
So why is he trailing by nearly 15% and also the most disliked candidate in US history?

You take meme popularity on 4chan as some sort of evidence the world love shim when the contrary is quite evident. He's about as "sure a thing" as Romney was and if the election ran tomorrow he would lose. So why act like he's some inevitability when he's losing?
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>>684464720
>running for president
>not a politician
Pick one, retard.
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>>684464720
Indeed, he's a corrupt businessman who made a lot of his power by fucking over old ladies and the like out of their land in the 80's
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70 posts and only one of them says "cuck", good job everyone not being cancer
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>>684464707
Sanders is a jew, He can't be trusted by default
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>>684459714
Um anon, you contradicted your own argument.
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>>684459336
you might try to at least sound like you know what you are talking about before posting here.
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>>684460870
He does like gold. His butler said so.
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>>684464991
>implying Trump's daughter isn't a jew.
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>>684464920
No, he made the majority of his money off a trust fund , he's a trust child
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>>684464784
Even is politicians completely ignore it, people don't. And, thanks to the internet, people have gotten pretty good at organizing protests. At the very least you can expect face values changes as a result of those sorts of protests.

To say nothing of the politicians who actually do represent their citizen constituents.
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>>684460791
>Wanting to remove illegal immigrants.
>talking about legal immigrants.

Here's what I don't get. If Trump is so awful, why do liberals have to completely make shit up and lie about him? Like this fucking idiot pretending Trump has EVER said he wants to remove legal immigrants.
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>>684459336
Because a majority of people on /b/ fuck their siblings and love Trump's billion dollar cock
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>>684460870
the wall the he himself said was a meme.
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>>684465110
Oh Trumps daughter is running for the presidency, I see now.
Also this is a political discussion, so you basically invited /pol/ here
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>>684462129
Muh ferretdoms
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>>684461086
come around anytime little man.
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>>684464720
Y'know he ran for president in the '90's as a libertarian (so naturally it didn't go anywhere). They weren't fighting him because he wasn't in the club, they were fighting him because what he was saying was making them look bad.
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>>684465339
That is one hell of an offensive line of bullshit. Only a Jew would say or think that
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>>684461003
I already pay enough. fuck you. how much do you pay?
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>>684465339
Trump: I don't have time for total political correctness

Why the double standard?
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>>684460960
Cali is filled with Bernie supporters. The old man is going to beat Hillary's cunt.
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>>684465346
Trump allows the Jews to fuck his daughter, just like he will let them fuck America. I can't believe you autists approve of this.
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>>684464991
He's a lapsed jew. He's still technically allowed in the club, but he hasn't been to a meeting in years and he probably lost the hat.
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>>684464899
Well if he doesnt win, he will still hold the title of Never a politician.
But I see your point. And you are right. He sure does know how to play the voter manipulation game, like all the other politicians running.
He even speaks at a 4th grade reading level!
And uses big words like TERRORISM and TERRIFIC.
And he constantly reassures us that he will do such a GREAT JOB.
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>>684461465
try knowing what you are talking about before you post.
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>>684465450
I'd fuck the Bernie out of his daughter there, I fuck her so hard and so long, she's start to feel the bern
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>>684464757
And almost 300 thousand rushed in the 3 months before it went up. And of course it will take some time for them to come up with a new way over the border.
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>>684464899
>Hes a politician
>hes never held any political office

Pick one
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>>684459674
And the attention whoring.
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>>684465609
>>684465614

I never said I was a Trump supporter
You are Implying I'm a trump supporter
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>>684465195
>liberals have to
They don't. I think some might enjoy it though, because they dislike him that much.
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>>684459336
OP, would like me to vote for Sanders?
Should I vote for a guy who spent 4 times more on his campaign and is still losing the nomination?
Should I vote for a guy who claim that is supported by young people, yet the young people failed to turn out to vote?
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>>684464707
sure kid. muh free has nothing to do with it.
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>>684464819
sure kid.
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>>684464920
more rumors you can't prove.
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bernie won't win shit
he just makes crazy promises he can't deliver on
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>>684465116
sure kid. waaaaaaah someone has more than me.
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>>684465827
>Should I vote for a guy who claim that is supported by young people, yet the young people failed to turn out to vote?
Well duh, they were all under the voting age , he should of thought out his target demographic more thoroughly
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>>684462472
guess that will work wonders for your outsourced economy kek, still you gotta be pretty fucking retarded if you think this wall will ever exist. Trump riled up the rednecks to get the votes and now the back-pedalling starts. courtesy of American tradition and its retarded election system, enjoy
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>>684466019
I don't see how that's a bad thing, hopefully he makes being gay and transgender a capital offense punishable by execution
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>>684466088
>Trump will answer all of his promises.
His own party didnt even want him. What makes you think anything he said will happen??
Its just until lately that they are trying to swallow him down, its all a horse and pony show though... they already proved they were willing to throw millions of dollars at him to stop his campaign.
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>>684465827
sanders has ton of support from young people
problem is it is in the 12 to 16 age group
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>>684465462
really I don't recall that happening. I was even alive in the 90's and still don't recall this.
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>>684465407
Yeah, you imbecile, because he still needed to be competitive. In fact, he is a hero for wanting to put taxes on China imports, despite everybody making products in China.

Would you have wanted him to fail at his business, just to show some mindless false "integrity"? Instead of acting like a retard, he played the game, he won the game, and now he's going to change it.

People who make statements like you make, are either disingenuous, or lack basic logic skills. In both cases, you're not worth a damn talking to.
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>>684465526
never answer this one do they.
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>>684466269
Post the pictures of Trump getting kicked out of Chicago. That was fun.
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>>684459336
Its not that I like Trump, I hate him, but none of Bernie Sanders ideas to fix the deficit will actually work.
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>>684466133
No, I'm a Capitalistic Conservative. No someone said he made most of his money robbing old women out of land, and I told them the truth, he's a trust fund baby
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>>684465609
like this is an issue?
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>>684466400
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>>684466329
>>684466139
Sincerely, I have no idea if you're tolling me, or if you're agreeing with me, or if I'm a retard...
I will just sit back and try to lurk more to see what the fuck do you mean by "underage supporters".
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>>684466439
And he won Chicago anyways :^)
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>>684459674
Better a man than a shifty jew or coke dealer. Other leaders will like him for the same reasons they think Obama is a fag.
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>>684460031
Do you cucks even listen to what bernie says?

He's going to fund his policies by raising taxes.

He says this.
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>>684466320
i didn't say trump would answer his promises lil nigga I said bernie made promises knowing he could never make good on them
im not even a trump voter
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>>684465742
>working class
There hasn't been a single and re presentable working class in ages. The barrier to entering most of our work force is at least a 2 year degree post highschool. The values of people who care enough and work hard enough to get that extra degree are dramatically different from the people who hopped into an industry and waited / demonstrated skills for promotions. The latter is quickly becoming the minority.
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>>684466509
prove your statement or shut the fuck up kid.
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>>684459336
firstly, do you know know the difference between a billion and a trillion? because Trumps wall is supposed to cost somewhere in the region of ten billion

secondly, if you don't understand Bernie's policies well enough to explain them to someone else maybe you shouldn't be voting for him

also, what this guy said >>684459830
this argument is completely moot anyway

not that I couldn't explain why Bernie's plan would work, and why Trump is corrupt. But it doesn't really matter now, does it?
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>>684462753
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>>684464384
20 billion is nothing for the US. Are you actually retarded?
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>>684465924
I already graduated from college. If I wanted free shit, I'd vote for Clinton. She wants to reduce college debt. Instead, I'm voting for the person who wants to raise my taxes more.
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>>684466609>>684466719
I don't pay corporate income taxes, so I don't give a shit. Keep sucking corporate cock, friendo.
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>>684466602
they are agreeing with you
you are kind of stupid
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>>684459492
fpbp

/thread
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>Show how Trump wall will cost atleast 10 trillion.
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Let's say in a "magical fantasy land" Bernie gets elected. Do you think congress will let anything through? Besides the routine shit.
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>>684466602
He aimed at voters children thinking it would get their parents to vote for him, that was an actual strategy he employed.
Look it up, all over youtube,reddit and tumblr about how kids are trying to convince their parents to vote for him.
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>>684466552
>makes you look like a fucking tool
>post some meme pic to try and make you look somehow more right
>rather than replying with valid points
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>>684467129
cucks better get to mexico before the wall goes up
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>>684467041
>muh evil corporations
Hes also proposing an increase in personal income tax retard
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>>684467080
Well... then thanks for agreeing with me, and thanks for informing me that I'm stupid.

>>684467126
>He aimed at voters children thinking it would get their parents to vote for him, that was an actual strategy he employed. He aimed at voters children thinking it would get their parents to vote for him, that was an actual strategy he employed.
>kids are trying to convince their parents to vote for him.

OHOHOHO! HE DID THAT SHIT? OH, THIS IS SO FUCKED UPPPPP! O EM GEE, THIS IS AMAZING! THIS GUY IS FUCKING WORSE THAN STALIN!

COMPARING BERNIE TO STALIN INSULTS STALIN! NOT EVEN STALIN WOULD DO THIS FUCKING SHIT!
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>>684464384

Food stamps cost America 70 billion annually.

A wall would take a few years to build, and that 10-20 billion would be split up into 4 easy payments 5,999,999,999.99

Literally a pittance compared to 20 trillion in debt.

Nigga, do you even basic maths?
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>>684467188
Oh, you came to /b/ expecting a thoughtful debate?
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>>684467281
Trump's going to make america white again
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>>684467353
Not on anybody making under 250k.
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>>684459336
i know ur feels <3
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>>684461151
If you are already in college or paying for some sort of education, you will pay twice for it. Unless you cashed in your Good Boy Points for an education.
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>>684467118
>not thinking a wall spanning out entire southern border won't cost 10 trillion.
Riiiiiight, you're a smart one
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>>684462472
boy you sure like fucking your sister
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>>684465195
If I recall corectly it doesn't matter if you're a legal citizen or not if you follow the muslim religeon you'll be deported even if you were born in America.

Understand that means anyone can say you're a muslim and you'll be deported.

The more you know.
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>>684467409
god i hope so, all these faggots, coal burners, trans sympathizers, hilary supporters etc etc should be shot in the street.
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>>684467497
Did you even read his income tax proposal dipshit?
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>>684459336
>Implying Sanders is any better
Try to find a common ground among your friends by reminding them that both candidates are doom for us.
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>>684467375
I never said he was evil for doing it, I just said it wasn't the best strategy .
Honestly I think Political dramas like we are seeing now are just for entertainment, and have absolutely nothing to do with how the country is ran, and who actually runs it. No one would be interested in politics if they didn't have shows like this to promote
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>>684462472
>2016
>not knowing what bit coin is
Good luck with taxing those remittances. Faggot.
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>>684467633

>religeon
>anyone can say you're a muslim and you'll be deported
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>>684467690
Did you?
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>>684466203
Kek! thats something i'd like to see! some old fart runing in a kicking everyone's ass.
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>>684467396
>i-it's /b/!
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>>684467633
Where are you geting thins info from, do you have a link?
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>>684466961
I would gladly pay $70 to keep the wetbacks out of my country.
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>>684467611
You know that it's estimated at the most to be 30 BILLION right? There's a little bit if a different between that and 10 trillion, a small one but a difference exists.
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Trump's wall will only cost $8 billion, and Mexico has already considered paying half of it. Bernie's socialist policies will cost $20 trillion. If your in college and don't want to pay your own way in life, then Bernie's socialism crap sounds great, because your forcing others to take care of you. If your mature enough to realize everyone should be responsible for themselves and pay their own way in this world, you would cringe at the idea of burdening tax payers with the cost of your free college and healthcare.
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You're wasting your breath, OP. Trump supporters are mouth-breathing tribalist apes who hate and fear information. Confronting them with facts will do nothing but make them dig in harder.
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>>684461244
He also talks about sending immigrants back which also costs more money and won't stop them from getting in & hints that he wants to be Hitler 2.0
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>>684461244
Is not like that dumb ass
Is the environmental damage
That you stupid wall is going to
Caused fucking beaners can
Jump high or use tunnels as moles do
But what about us citizens that going
To lose them home land just to build a stupid wall come on you guys can't be that retarded to trust a fucking cunt as thrump
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>>684467952
That's $35 a head for you idiots that can't math
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>>684467806

HAHAHAHAHA

>He thinks they're going to all jump on bitcoin.

Jose is literally cutting grass and grabbing scrap steel from your garbage can to survive.

That motherfucker is completely reliant on the currency exchange, you're braindead if you think otherwise.
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couldnt we just cut off foreign aid to mexico until they pay for it?
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>>684467757
It doesn't even matter if child brainwashing is a successful strategy or not. It is immoral as hell.

Children don;t have the right to vote. Conversely, that also means they don't have the obligation of listening to bullshit politics.

You can't bully a child for not voting. You can't question them on who they vote for. They are not obligated to vote or to express opinion on politics. They don't have a duty to participate in the political process.

Anybody who manipulates children into the political process, consciously knowing that those children don't actually have the right to make their own decisions is wicked and horrific.
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>>684459336
Be satisfied that you're one of the intelligent ones and you don't resort to the retarded, "OMG TREMP IS RACIST" bullshit, anon. You should be proud.
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>>684459336
>Sanders doesn't have a chance at beating Hillary, the LEAST-electable person in US politics...
>Sanders only exists to create the illusion of choice and competition; Hillary has already bought 2016's Dem ticket.
>Sanders is senile autist socialist who thinks it's still 1967.
>mfw: people are still supporting this fuckwit.
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>>684468053
We should cut it off forever
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>>684468053
Mexico has a childhood obesity problem. We should have cut aid 7 years ago.
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>>684465608
that kid in the back has seen some shit
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>>684467633
ope. He actually wants to stop the importation of them and deport the illegal one. Do you know the difference between legal and illegal?
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>>684461086
The words of the tolerant left. Fuck off.
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>>684468154

>Hillary bought the dem ticket
>x-files.jpg

The left is batshit insane, that's why Hillary is the nominee.
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>>684467925
Your bullshit picture is corrupted as fuck. It won't open.
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>>684461318
Dumb as fuck ahah so you believe EVERY SINGLE latino is voting for either trump or Hillary? Every single one up to 100%?
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>>684467952
I agree cause I'm not paying for millions of anchor babies who shouldn't be here in the first place
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>>684462472
>destroy mexico
>???
>profit

Trump 2016
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>>684468121
Yeah, you could be right, but it has been a strategy that has been employed by Media for years, using children to influence their parents was what TV cartoons and commercials did for years.
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>>684468154
>being weeaboo
>criticizing others opinion
methinks you need a mirror
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>>684468531
I had no idea of that shit going on. And I think it's illegal, too. Propagation of politics, bluntly, is illegal.
Religious or political indoctrination for kids in schools is illegal.
I don't know when or how or why it happened, but I'll look it up.

By the way, has Clinton or Trump employ the same strategy?
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>>684459336
Just let them be. You wouldnt like it if they were trying to convince you to vote Trump.

People will vote how they want, and there's not much you can do about it.
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>>684461792
Or start to manufacturing his stupid
Clothes over there where he
Can pay fucking 2 pesos to
A beaner because he'll never going
To bring them business here no
More or you guys are so stupid
To believe that this fucker going
To loose money just because
He is going to make America great again
Seriously you misinformed stupid ass can't be that dumb
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>>684468775
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>>684467850
>https://berniesanders.com/issues/how-bernie-pays-for-his-proposals/
>http://taxfoundation.org/article/details-and-analysis-senator-bernie-sanders-s-tax-plan#_ftn1
The problem is that dumbasses like you are allowed to vote in this country
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Bernie lost he can't win the nomination at this point. Him sticking around shows he wants Trump to win too.
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>>684468592
>can only base a comeback on the reaction img posted
>thinks they're witty and kewl
>is actually a fedora-wearing Bernie-supporting autist faggot.
>mfw
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>>684464757
There are very geographic differences here.
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>>684467393
>Literally a pittance compared to 20 trillion in debt
You do realize that we as the American people will be paying this with taxes we give to the government for the proposals
that Bernie said right?
Also don't give me that shut with
>"b-b-but the white man is going to have to pay for this not the Niggers, stinking Mexicans, Asians, and Arabs wouldn't be paying right?"
No fag they will be paying for everything too because if they are an American citizen they will have to pay taxes too
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>>684468950

>Raize taxz mur welfare!

Go the fuck away Venezuela
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>>684459336
OP, Bernie is a LIAR. And I will tell you why.

The only reason he supports free college is because young people can vote. Sanders is playing the game, the political game. Giving away free shitty college or free cars is the same thing, and it is rude and stupid.

Because, if you really want to solve some problems, there are REAL problems to solve.

There insane people who are dying homeless in the streets. There are children who die of starvation; white children and black children alike, in poor neighborhoods.

There are so many problems, and this free college shit is nothing but an enormous handout, white-world-style for white people. I don't mean white as in Caucasian. I mean white as in fucking oblivious to the real problems that exist in the world.
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the wall thing isn't going to happen
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>>684469142
See >>684469091
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>>684459336
Sanders literally has no chance. Most Americans don't know it yet, but we will not stand for socialism. That is why Hillary Clinton has more super delegates.
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>>684459336
The people who say that Sander's ideas will cause debt or take a bunch of money from people literally do things like forget the individual won't be paying for insurance or that it's already proven most of the consumer market runs off the middle and lower classes.
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>>684466400
Yeah, he says all this shit, just like in 2008 he said the most leftist bleedin' heart liberal bullshit.
You're being manipulated.
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>wanting to pay for someone else's college or healthcare
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>>684459336
>Show how Trump wall will cost at least 10 trillion.
Ah ha ha ha ha ha...

And you wonder why they dismiss you.
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>>684459336
Bernie Cancers has literally no chance. Most people don't know it yet, but America will not stand for socialism. That is why Clinton has more superdelegates. I personally hate the Clintons with a passion, and I think Bernie would be a better grandfather that president.
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>>684469425
Yes, nigger, I'm being manipulated by the facts I see, by the pares I read and by the things I see with my own eyes.
Do you have a solution for me?
Should I go to the country and stare at birds fucking to clear my head?
I mean, spending some time where there's no information whatsoever will clearly give me a healthy perspective on the situation, huh?
Let's escape those pesky facts, and build own rainbow imaginary world!
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>>684468754
Well in the cast of TV, look at the different cereals like Frosted flakes Back in the 50's and 60's the media knew they couldn't sell a box of unhealthily sugar coated diabetes to parents. So they had to target their children directly to indirectly target their parents
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SmeMNakcQWE
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>>684460791
You mean think of the order in the streets right?
Your taxes would be spent on public services and not spent with some illegal
The real immigrants wouldnt be hated AND wouldnt feel like complete idiots for becoming legal immigrants while a bunch of fucks dont and still managed a way in
There would be less mexicans working in conditions similar to slavery seeing that now you are able to go to the police if that happens (no, illegals cant go and protest without the rick of being deported)
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>>684469040
>projecting this much
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>>684469650
>America will not stand for socialism
Why, what changed?
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>>684466310
Trump is chill with the gays and would rather not involve himself with trans issues.
If you want to ban the gays, you wanted Ted Cruz not Trump.
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>>684469709
But... we were talking about politics. Has the media ever used cereal commercials to promote a political party platform or some ideology to kids?

I know they manipulate kids, but is it politics? Do they manipulate kids with politics? Or just with consumerism and shit?
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>>684459336
Sounds like you need new friends OP.
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>>684468950
http://www.bernietax.com/

Here is his plan.
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>>684469760
how is he a bernie supporter you cuck? did all the weed you used consume your brain cells?
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>>684469938
>being this insecure
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>>684469436
Did you not read what I said?
I said that EVERYONE over the of 18 will pay taxes. Especially the people who pay taxes while they are in college for their tuition
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>>684469142
>The only reason he supports free college is because young people can vote
The only way to get a decent job is college right?
Some people can't afford college right?
Just follow that thought trail and see how an educated populace isn't a bad white-world-style handout.
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>implying Trump can be stumped by that cuck

he cant even win within his own party!
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>>684469806
LOL the board fucked up, it says I wrote that, but I didn't
>>684466310
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>>684460598
You're not allowed to talk sense around here!! Gtfo!!
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>>684469369
>we will not stand for socialism
Fuck public schools, and roads, and social security. We will not stand for it!
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>>684459336
But, Bernie is so wrong in so many ways. All you have to do is stop listening to the lefty rhetoric, and study socialism's horrible bloody past, and how it fails Venezuela and every single country that it has enveloped.
You're living in the benefits of capitalism. If Bernie's dreams came true, you can kiss your lower middle class life goodbye. The only ones with any money will be government officials. This is fact.
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As a Eurofag I feel as though I should tell you guys this... The world is laughing at you. Your election is a fucking meme and no one will ever take you or your shithead candidates seriously. Your country is the laughingstock of the world. Even the fucking Greeks are making fun of you.
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I don't really like that logo for Hillary. I prefer the smiley face one.
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>>684470030
>XD le funny implying maymay cause i has no valid points in the thread
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>>684469698
Do you honestly believe that the people who support a democratic politician aren't also responding to fact and personal experience?

The way I see it, it's mostly a matter of culture (experience), not facts. Facts look different when your interests change, and your interests change with your experiences. Democrats simply have different experiences.

There's no rainbow imaginary worlds, there's only the influence of many cultures. That said, Trump really does seem more of a manipulative bastard to me than most politicians.
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>>684469436
Yeah, and they'll pay for mine.
What's wrong with wanting to help someone?
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>>684470257
u mad bro?
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>>684470241
Why are you standing there laughing when you could be invading and bringing democracy?
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>>684467393
You are straight up fucking retarded it's not even just the cost that's the problem, there's a shitload of other problems.
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>>684459336
>bernie needs 76% of the remaining votes to stand a chance
From a bernie supporter myself, Trump will win.
As hillary will buy through the primary, and bernie supporters will still type in him, because 2004 is too long ago for people to remember what they learned.
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