Troll harder

Burn more trees, make those green house gases keep us warm!

Did you know? that 79.65% of people make fake ass charts and percentages? And then others believe its real because its a pie chart?

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>>681935317

>>681935317

Maybe you should actually take more time than 5 minutes to do your research. Also it's probably a good idea to use other sources than just pol. Also, b8 harder m8.

I believe that even the smallest percentage of co2 is harmful due to its heat trapping properties, however, its people who scream 'muh co2 levels' that are the problem. I believe that methane gas is the main cause.

>it all comes down to, to many people

Kek.

Yurocucks still buying whatever propaganda their government tells them.

Hey OP... Isn't that a lot like saying the sun makes 97% of the radiation that hits the Earth, so man-made atomic bombs aren't actually harmful?

>>681935725
>government s behind global warming

people are responsible
people dont care
people didnt listen to scientists 30 years ago

go back to /x/

>>681935603
No this is pretty accurate. And it doesnt even mention that 90ish% of the greenhouse effect is caused by water vapour. It also fails to mention that none of that matters, because everything other than anthropogenic co2 and methane is basically in equilibrium and even though the relative amount contributed by humanity is small its enough to tip the equilibrium into much shittier balances

>>681935611
> takes time to actually post
> takes bait comments about bait
ok

>>681935935

Can I have a source on that please?

>>681936070
On what precisely?

>>681935588
MOVE NORTH!!!

>>681936001

I answer to every b8 simply based on the assumption that there's a tiny chance that it isn't in fact b8 and that op is actually this fucking retarded.

>>681935317
how about methane you fucklord

>>681936261
The methane fraction is even smaller

>>681935934

Rent Seeking Behavior.

ECONOMICS 101

>>681936070
You do realize the global warming hoax was created only to implement the CARBON TAX.
Which is the most pathetic piece of shit scam by governments EVER.
I own a 2006 BMW and I pay 400 fucking euro annually ECO tax (carbon tax).
fucking bullshit.

>>681936157
Op here, classic liberal cuck move - attempt to make anyone else opinion look bad with bullying (calling me retarded) ITS MY POINT OF VIEW - democracy only works when it's in ur favour hmm?
Cruz 2016

>>681935921
kek
>uses this line at parties

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>>681935317
yeah, I belive that too and my fellow liberals hate me

>>681936367
Own a less damaging car then

>>681935935
the thing that people forget is that for millions of years, co2 levels were a lot fucking higher

>>681936444
yeah, lets just steal one

>>681936442

Strawman harder

>>681936583
Thats fine

>>681936517
So? No one gives a shit what the balance was like in the past, we are dealing with the balance at the moment, and dumping a large amount of methane and co2 into the mix over a short period of time WILL fuck that balance up

>>681936655
what do you think I just said?

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what we need is a culling

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>>681936442
it's ok, you obviously know more about climate change by reading some wikipedia articles compared to people who devoted their whole lifes to the research on it which is considered proven by 99% of the scientific community.

>>681936583
who the fuck would steal a prius anyway right?

>>681936833
yeah, I read what they have said and most of them agree with my position, the rest can devote their life to bullshit if they want, I don't care, but selling it as truth just to gain global influence and power is wath bothers me

>>681936721
you dump fuck, if the dinosaurs lived in a world were co2 levels were 5 times higher than today, and they were even higher before then. then this phenomena isnt that bad.

I get fucking snow in summer sometimes
>global warming is a myth
>climate change aint that bad

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>>681937061
So you're saying there's something wrong with trying to not fuck up the environment as hard as possible?
Even if you believe climate change is a hoax you will understand that polluting everything will only make life worse for future generations - right?

>>681937214
>if the dinosaurs lived in a world were co2 levels were 5 times higher than today
That is simply, literally, not how it works, even though it seems like it should when you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about

>>681936711
That chart pretends that the Hebrew Exodus actually happened, calling bullshit right now.

>>681937328
of course it is co2 concentration was higher, more heat was trapped. as we know, temperatures were high.
The trouble is that every year, methane levels are simultaneously, worldwide increased due to farming; farming to feed the ever growing population

>>681935317
CO2 Isn't the only contaminant, m8.

Wouldn't it be silly to spend millions of dollars reuniting every country so that they try to reduce greenhouse gas emition? Either you are a troll. or you need to open a serious biology textbook.

>>681937637
I mean that its not as simple as x co2 content = y average temperature, or the x avg. tempertaure = y global climate

Methane is a worse greenhouse gas than co2, but so far most of the human caused greenhouse effect is because of co2 emmissions

>>681935317
YES KEEP CONSUMING OIL FROM YOUR MILLIONARE OVERLORDS AND KEEP GIVING THEM TAX BREAKS YES YES YES

>>681937835
Idiot, like you wouldn't want to be a millionaire! Fuck taxes those people work for their money unlike liberal cucks! Lazy fgts

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Most of you people are either trolls are complete fucktards. There is a direct emperical relationship between human CO2 emmisions and the rising temperature of the Earth

>>681937214
>I get fucking snow in summer sometimes
You shouldn't skip your meds faggot

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>>681938099
please
someone tell me this guy is 'trolling'

nigga 3.5% is a shitton

>>681937267
are people really trying to fuck up the world? Is that the goal? Or is the goal to make more products and food for a socieaty that is getting larger and larger, we also need more hausing, cars to reach standards of normality, when those standards are reached we can (and most western/capitalist countries are) take intensive care for the environment if it is needed, people need nature, parks, fountains and other circusess and the only countries and goverments who do not care about those things tend to not care for the environment either. Countries like China or Venezuela.

A little pollution in african countries will not do much harm to the planet or to the atmosphere, it will only do harm to rich countries who are using all the hippie science they can to stop those countries from developing, and it's working pretty well.

I care more for people than for nature and I can't denie that peple need nature so I have to take care of both, but not at the same time, do you understand?

>>681937826
yes, but I'm saying that when co2 levels increase by 0.001% in global atmosphere, its insignificant.

the root cause of climate change is the vast amount of methane produced each year; most notably from beef. beef used to feed the world.

see previous post for my views
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>>681936102

Every factual statement in that text. Don't you know how sourcing works?

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>>681938164
nice chart you got there

>>681938211
Classic hostile liberal! What about ur overlords using 'climate change' to brainwash you hmmmm?!

Oh, so you're a conspiracy theorist? You should have a moron tax on top of the tax on your car.

We had snow here 2 days ago, ergo global warming is a hoax.

do people really belive there will be a big global flood? do we need to find another Noa?

>>681936833

/thread

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>>681938745
is anyone here a scientist? where are those scientist actually? still counting their money?

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>>681938340
>posts the already obvious

Let me put this graph into perspective

>>681935317
>THERE IS NOTHING WE CAN DO TO CHANGE THE WEATHER
We have the capability to create 10x full yield Tsar Bomba.
A gigaton bomb going off would sure as fucking hell change some things.

Or we could shift the orbit of a 1-2km asteroid so it hits the planet. That'd make some minor changes.

>>681938700
>National Outsourcing Association ?
i dont think you do, because you can just outsource it

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>>681938340
heres what this fucker looking for a government grant will show you
>wow, the worlds fucked

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>>681935317
After 15 years I finally believe global warming isn't so much a myth as grossly blown out of proportion. 90% of global warming graphs are extrapolated out to 2050 with the assumption that CO2 levels will rise exponentially, despite the fact that in the last 10 years we've created lower power technology and non-emitting forms of energy production. Our rate of releasing CO2 has fallen precipitously but no one seems to notice or care so long as "muh global warming" keeps them employed and able to sway the opinion of the public.

My primary reasons for doubting the existing of global warming were two-fold. First, the obvious fact that over the last 6,000 years the temperature has gone from freezing to burning several times. Hell, in the 70's they thought we were entering a period of global cooling and even recommended INCREASING CO2 emissions to counteract it.

Second, every single global warming graph ever shows global temperatures from 1900 to 2000. Nothing shows 2000-2015 because the temperature stopped rising so it didn't fit their story. Unfortunately the temperature didn't fall in this time, either - it flat-lined. Then from 2015-2016 it rose again.

Compare this with known features of CO2 (the difference between an ice age and the extinction of all life is 3 parts per million versus 6 parts per million), known rates of emission, and measured quantities in the air, and it's pretty clear that we have caused the planet's temperature to rise in the last 100 years

What is NOT clear is that this trend will continue, what is NOT clear is that this is irreversible, and what is NOT clear is that "we're going to die in 10 years". At the current rate of CO2 emission we won't reach dangerous levels until around 2080, and considering that the rate is decreasing we should last until closer to 2300-2400 without a dramatic change in our technology. And we're on the cusp of a dramatic change in our technology.

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>>681939060
3 parts per 10,000 and 6 parts per 10,000 -- sorry. Forgot my numbers

>>681936390
It is bullying to call you retarded so, no, you're not. However, the "It's my point of view" defense is bullshit. Your point of view on a fact can't challenge its truth. You can talk about how climate change and our response to it affects you, like >>681936367, but "muh beliefs" aren't persuasive to anyone else.

>>681938956
Noah* (sorry, not my first language)

>>681938164
>a small ant colony living their life in an ant hill next to the beach
>one day they make a trail to a dead fish during low tide
>tide starts coming in
>"You fucking morons, the water levels rising are correlating exactly with our destruction of the dead fish, global flooding is real how can you even deny it smh fam"

thats you.

>>681938944
the things we can do to save humanity
>kill ourselves
>leave the planet
>shift earths orbit
>move greenhouse gases to mars

>>681938817
Chemist here. The world getting a few C warmer pales in comparison to the negative efffects of carbon dioxide in its aqueous state. CO2 is acidic in water. Most life in the oceans that we desperately need can't survive in acidic conditions. Their calcium carbonate skeleton can't solidify. And that's just one other issue that you usually don't hear about.

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>>681938302
>are people really trying to fuck up the world? Is that the goal?
No, but they do it anyways because humans like to go the easiest way - which currently includes the rampand use of oil till it's all fucking gone.
>most western/capitalist countries are take intensive care for the environment if it is needed
Only when it happens on their own ground, the air on the other hand just like large parts of the ocean are pretty much free rape zones.
>A little pollution in african countries will not do much harm to the planet or to the atmosphere, it will only do harm to rich countries who are using all the hippie science they can to stop those countries from developing, and it's working pretty well.
Nobody said that developing countries may not use fossil fuels - they will anyways, and it's a relatively logical step. But the next step would consequently be to think of future generations when you've got the time, money and expertise.

>>681939205
>save humanity
>kill self

you first fgt

>>681939199
dubs
/thread

>>681939252
about fuckin time someone spoke some real sense

lets not forget the shit tonne of plastic that is entering the biocycle in the oceans

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>>681938944
somebody watched too many N24 "12 stupid ways earth could theoretically be destroyed" episodes

>>681939325
I am opting for the first option

>>681939444
nice trips
now fuck off and die

>>681937267
CO2 is not pollution fucktard. Every time you jack off to pictures of your mom and you breathe heavily, you emit more CO2.

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>>681939535
>CO2 is not pollution

How can i be responsible for green house gases when i don't even have a green house?

>athiests 1
>science 0

>>681938443
Pretty much this. Even if Global Warming turns out to be just false data, republicunts are so taken in by the big companies they refuse to do anything that doesnt DIRECTLY make their lives easier. IE why they are against abortions. They want to force people to have the kids but dont care what happens to it the moment it comes out of its mom's cunt.

>>681939060
disregard this person that do not know what they are talking about. chemist here.

>>681939416
hahaha yeah those fuckin fish are dumb

>>681939607
because plants would do so well without c02
>learn to science

>>681939416
thank you I only spent my entire time in college studying this shit.

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>>681939724
i feel my iq sinking when reading your posts

>>681939649
Your aptitude for discourse is baffling. I'm utterly convinced.

>>681939754
sucks to be you... i built a public pool once... learned that you can use c02 to make a pool acidic more gently than other chemicals, but hey

no but really, i hope you can put it to good use and fix our fuck ups

>>681936517
Yes. And the planet was a lot fucking hotter, and sea levels were a lot fucking higher. What's your point?

>>681935317
On track for hottest decade on record.

Yeeeaaahhh, Ummmmmm, I'mmmm going to have to uhhh disagree with you on that.

>>681939863
we're on the fucking internet there's a million different resources to educate yourself with. ".edu" is usually trustworthy...

>>681939305
Oil will not be good in the near future, this is just a hoax to keep the oil prices up. And why are you worried about it anyway?

So rich countries should just care for everyone? I think that they shoul care for what is happening on their own ground, and so shoul everyone else. ''the air''? Ever seen people in those countries wearing face masks because of air pollution? Or what are you talking about here?

That's what I'm advocating for, let them have their industrial revolution, that would surelly make the whole situation more stable and less barbaric. The next step is also a logical one, you star taking care of the other human needs (after you already took care of the basic ones) and that is the need for nature, healthy food, animals, marriges made because of love and all the other faggy stuff.

>>681939858

aw i know it must be hard realising you arent as smart as you thought you were.... but really, there are special ed schools if it gets too hard for you

>>681939754
what did you study?

>>681939724
Think of CO2 like cinnamon. A little is fucking great, it makes everything taste a little better. However, if you try to down a fuckload of it at once, you're going to choke, vomit, scar your lungs, and slowly die of emphysema.

>>681939858
>>681940096
shut up you autists

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>>681939535
this guy raises an even bigger point, what about all of the jizz being produced by this site?
>pic related

>>681940103
"environmental chemistry"

>>681940011
life... finds away
>planet isnt doomed

>>681938164
That's not the question. The question is whether or not the CO2 is effecting global climate as much as we think.

We can CHANGE the weather, but not control it, but yeah, not much damage is being done right now.

>>681935317
Agreed. Libtards just regurgitate what they've been told and easily believe. If on a hot day, some liberal politician or musician says "It's hot, so global warming is real," then those social nutjobs think "the man" did it and they have to intervene. The problem with the whole liberal agenda is that we've allowed too many to rise too high in society.

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>>681940381
answer: no
over population and the gasses produced as a result are
>methane

>>681940144
no, think of it as Carbon Dioxide... that there is actually a carbon cycle that needs to be maintained.

or think whatever magical fairy shit you believe in, because an autist will autist

>>681939973
and MSDS will likely point to that as well. Understanding these global systems was what i studied. And current IPCC reports would indicate that at the very least there will be extreme landscape desertification and our lower latitudes. Not much that's fixable... more like figure out how to make humans mole people.

>>681936655
that's... not a straw man.

>>681940486
>methane... and literally too many other compounds to even begin to type out. 0/10

>>681935317
man made or not the deforestation, heavy industries, toxic waste, bleaching of coral reefs and drought among others have been man made and how can you explain that? I don't think by your logic "liberals" aren't the only people behind this movement.

Tell me is justifiable to keep contaminating the planet?

>>681940546
Yeah, the cycle needs to be maintained, but dumping more into the atmosphere by approximately one metric fuckton every day is not maintenance.

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>>681940080
>And why are you worried about it anyway?
Because it destroys the place my children and their children will probably try to live. It's pretty self centered not to worry.
>So rich countries should just care for everyone?
We can be a role model to developing countries - would that be undesirable?
> ''the air''?
Air pollution isn't only made up of particles - and yes, developing nations don't care because they have other problems - i can accept that, but we've reached a point where we can afford to watch out for the environment - so we should do that.
>The next step is also a logical one, you star taking care of the other human needs.
And one of these needs is living in an environment where rivers aren't filled with toxic waste and the climate makes more and more animals and plants go instinct. Even if we could manage somehow - we don't have to, and if we decide today that we'll prevent that from happening we can do it.

>>681940814
>CO2 is pollution
>CO2 is part of carbon cycle

Choose one FGT

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>>681941258
>implying a human can't drown because he drinks water
>implying adding a component to a certain system doesn't change anything else within a system

>>681941258
If you recall the cinnamon analogy, CO2 is critical to have at the proper level, the problem begins when there's way too much of it, and we show no signs of decreasing that amount in the near future.

>>681941258
it's actually both.

>>681941455
The dubs are on the side of nuance

>>681935317
>Why do some liberal cucktards still believe 'climate change' is man made?
>99% of climate scientists for the last 30 years

OP, why do you believe propoganda from the energy companies?

I know this is b8, but jesus christ, It is amazing that people are so fucking stupid

>shits in own house
>HOUSE WOULD SMELL LIKE SHIT ANYWAY NOT MUH FAULT
>anon: please stop shitting in the house
>OP: YOU CANT PROVE MY SHIT MAKES THE HOUSE SMELL COULD BE ANYONES SHIT FUCKING LIBRAL CUCK VOTE TRUMP VOTE ROMNEY VOTE REPUBLICAN

>>681941441
by your logic
>implying water is pollution

>>681941448
there is carbon forcing, but it aint a pollutant

>>681935317
before i click the little "X" and say goodbye to your pathetic thread forever, I will say this:

1. climate change evidence outweighs counter-evidence basically 1 to 0.

2. For years the argument from the right-wing establishment was that climate change doesn't exist:

2b. Now they insist that, ok, maybe climate change is real but it's not man made.

3. Even if all the evidence were false, pollution reduction measures are still such a high priority that it wouldn't make a difference.

4. Nice chart. I have no idea where you got it, but i like the colors.

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>>681940075
Post was marked as spam, made it a pastebin: HPzJvbih

Includes 4 .gov links and 1 .edu link related to every point in my post

Now instead of building up ad hominem attacks try actually defending your stance... whatever it is. So far your stance is "I'm a chemist"

fuck global warming. this is the one that will fuck us over:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ocean_acidification

>>681941650
Please submerge your head in some for a few days, tell us how it works out.

>>681941455
nope, if there was too much oxygen, you would be saying its pollution as well?

kek

>>681935317
>why is the desert cold at night

fucking moron

>>681941740
Oh look, CO2 fucking us up even harder

>>681941700
this. in the 70s you were an "anti car nut" if you believed in public transportation

in the 80 and 90s, global warning "didn't exist"

2k+ global warming exists, but it isn't from manmade causes

next it will be "oh well, its too late to do anything now"

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>>681941650
it was an analogy

>>681941746
no thanks... you told me it was pollution
/thread

>>681941797
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxygen_toxicity
Are you too retarded to do research?

>>681938817

No, exactly, nobody here is a scientist, which is why you listen to the actual scientists you moron.

Or are you some sceince-denying fundie?

>>681941917
Then you could always try breathing pure CO2 or pure Oxygen

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>>681941955
you are a literal retard for not understanding what pollution is

>>681942022
If you care and got a internet connection and some braincapacity you can learn about the subject. Science isn't black magic.

>>681939060

>not a scientist
>looks at graphs
>concludes 99% of scientists are wrong

Are you a wizard?

>>681942079
thanks i would rather have a balance, including my "polluting" co2

>>681942138
>It isn't referred to as X, there\fore it is not X
You have the logic of a toddler
Did you not fucking read that article? It makes very clear that too much oxygen will fucking kill you. However, we don't have a problem with too much oxygen in the atmosphere.

>>681936390

"2+2=5. It's my point of view"

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>>681942138
Apparently you don't know what pollution means...

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>>681942375
derp it is

>>681935317
>mfw our accepted selfdestructive behaviour is used as troll material.
We're dying but before we're gone we can troll so much with this.

>>681942216
>Not a scientist
>Glances at a post without reading its contents
>Concludes the poster didn't do any research
>Didn't look at pastebin / HPzJvbih where every point in my post is backed up by reputable .gov and .edu links
>Makes an ad hominem attack instead of posting any links to back up his own view

Are you a /b/tard?

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>>681940350
The planet won't be destroyed, but human society as we know it probably will be.
But yeah life will definitely continue on earth because as you say life, uh... finds a way.

>>681941864
Actually...
In the 70s we were bracing for "the new ice age" and had to do away with CFCs to save the ozone layer

In the 80s and 90s, it was "global warming" and we had to curb the consumption of fossil fuels to prevent CO2 oversaturation

2k+ it's "climate change" and we have to pay money because the previous claims turned out to be bullshit.

People who are financially benefiting from "climate change science" are driving the narrative and have been for the past 40+ years. Meanwhile their environmentalist counterparts created the huge US dependence on coal by nixing nuclear power after the Three Mile Island incident. Had nuclear energy continued at the rate prior to that, we'd probably be using clean (and cheap) electricity and would more than likely have developed a real electric car by now.

TL;DR: climate change is a hoax, but technology is more eco-friendly than environmentalism

Refer to bill nye. He will school yout tits on evolution and climate change because he is a living, walking, pimp machine.

>>681940441

lol

Can anyone explain why NASA says the polar ice caps are growing?

>>681942459
Your argument has devolved to shitty memes
I'm calling victory now

>>681942527
yes

>>681941650

>Being this retarded

>>681942567
why did they even bring a professor of chaos theory to a paleobiology theme park?

>>681942711
yes actually, you see the ice caps naturally melt and refreeze annually, however recently much more than usual has melted, and when that refreezes, it forms a thinner layer over a larger area. It looks like more ice, but in reality its less.

>>681940441

And if on a cold day some republican politician or actor says "It's cold, so global warming isn't real" then those scientifically illiterate morons think it's not real and there's nothing to worry about.

The knife cuts both ways anon.

>>681940441
samefag harder,faggot

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Final post before I leave:
who the fuck cares whether we live for another 50 years or 30.
Global warming myth or not is irrelevant because it doesn't matter either way.

normies are still going to fuck, have kids, limit the planets resources.
in 10 years the population is expected to double, therefore everyone here wll most likely die in 20.

>life is meaningless
>life is torture
>why not just end it

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Prepare to get redpilled.

>>681942711
I believe that is in the south pole ice is growing, but it is not growing at near the rate that the north pole is losing land ice.

>>681935934
This is true. Reminds me of an often used tactic by creationists. "well scientists like to believe theyre the only ones who know whats going on". Yes, because theyre fucking scientists and have studied this for years. They didnt follow the half assed teaching of ancient scribes. Fucking amazes me, their idea that the truth behind the world should be so simple that they can understand it. Anything that takes an ounce of hard work and trial and error must be wrong since i cant understand it.

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>>681942749
Well, at least you admit it.

Just so you know, one of the founding principles of science is: nothing is true just because someone says it's true

A thousand years ago 99.9% of people claimed the king had divine right to rule and god willed it so. Instead of trusting something because you hear about it in the news try doing actual research.

Also, stop conflating the media with scientists.

>>681942746
your meme, my victory

>>681942991
I gotta have a woman to nut into. after that, we can talk

>>681942999
>hey look at these isolated graphs that some guy on 4chan quoted
>they prove that x is fact
>no, i won't google once for more input because i've already been redpilled

>>681942184

Right, and in what way did I say you can't do that? The point is unless you take a degree in something and actually do proper research, there are scientists who know stuff better than you, regardless of how much you read online yourself. That's why a rational non-moron accept what the consensus of the scientific community is. And that consensus is that man-made global warming poses a serious thread to our survival.

>>681937061

> most of them agree with my position

But that's not true. Nearly 100% say global warming is *not* a myth.

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>>681943252
>This level of autism

>>681940441
If on a hot day, some scientific research says "the data suggest that global warming and man-made climate change is real," then those conservative nutjobs think "the librul conspiracy" made it up and they have to intervene. The problem with the whole conservative agenda is that we've allowed too many to rise too high in society.

>>681941441
poor choice of analogy dude, stick to your herbs and spices

Funny how in countries that aren't oligarchies where opinion and media are bought out by the rich to spread their politics, there is no debate on climate change. It's real, we know it's real, our political right knows it's real, and there's no grand TV debates of Bill Nye vs. Some guy.


In our countries the debate is "so what do you want us to do, stop selling oil and go bankrupt? China and America isn't stopping anytime soon our efforts are useless, and we kind of like being a first world country."


If you deny man made climate change you're an idiot. Plain and simple.

Stop reading newspapers and science reports that agree with you, go learn about co2, and it's actual properties as an insulator. Learn about its role in the natural cycle of climate change (which is also real, and doesn't at all mean man made isn't). Learn about why the levels shifted before humans, what happened to the vegetation (hint, it boomed, and sucked up all the co2 and replaced it with oxygen), learn about human emissions vs. Natures emissions. Learn every fact from outside sources.

You can piece it together yourself without an expert's opinion. It is plainly obvious and easy to accept.

Just because liberals accept it and can be faggoty sometimes doesn't mean it's not real. If you hate liberals so much, realise even naturopath's accidentally sell medicine that works as advertised.

But don't just hate something despite overwhelming scientific consensus because a hippy filled to the brim with shit and yoga agrees.

>>681935317
>Why does every credible scientist still believe 'climate change' is man made?
FTFY

>>681939199
I mean, in this scenario all the ants drown if they don't stop.

>>681943476
another meme? thats how you live your life and pose your arguments?

must be good to be 11

>>681942527

I have no interest in looking up your wastebin.

Are you saying that you're an actual climate scientist and that you agree with the consensus? Then good.

Are you saying you're an actual climate scientist who disagrees with consensus. Good, get your finding submitted it to peer review.

Are you a non-scientist in the field and think you know better than the scientific community, then you are clinically retarded.

>>681943521
>poor choice of analogy
How was it a bad analogy?

>>681943466
100% of those lying pseudo scientists who were actually caught faking data .... say global warming is not a myth. Yup..I'm worried about what they are saying....

>>681935934
>people didnt listen to scientists 30 years ago


You mean 30 years ago when they said we were moving into an Ice Age?

Governments wants more control of populations. Government pays researchers to conclude people are responsible for natural occurrences. Governments have excuse to grow bigger and exert more totalitarian control over you lives.


Stupid cucks believe in Global Warming and happily give their lives over to governments.

>>681943180
ah, but the king having 'divine right' to rule is technically true.

from an evolution stand point people would have started with tribes. at some point,the strongest guy would have united the tribes and created a more prosperous society. to introduce a civilized manner on ruling, it would have the offspring of said leader. etc through history. and over time people would have been brainwashed to believe this, even the king.

>divinity is ancestral achievement

>>681942616

Yes, and BANKS, BIG PHARMA, REPTILES, THE JEWS

>>681943661

> 100% of those lying pseudo scientists who were actually caught faking data

Citation needed

> say global warming is not a myth.

As opposed to the 0% of actual scientists who say it is a myth.

You should be worried, you're just too dumb to have an opinion outside of what fox news says is your opinion to be worried.

>>681937576
ha, calling You bullshit!

-->Evidence of Chariot Wheels in the Red Sea Found in 2000
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>>681935921
How did you ever learn to read?.... you did learn to read right?
100% of people who breathe air, die!... quick..stop breathing..save your life!

NASA has admitted they have been spraying chemicals into the air to change the weather. So how much of that have you accounted for in your assessment that the world is warming?..

If NASA has admitted o this, you know the Chinese are also at it, as well as a lot of other countries.

Again, this data is left our entirely, but lets run for the hills because plant food is on the rise.... good call. .. moron

>>681943661
None of them were caught faking data. NASA's study and review found 97% of climate scientists agree

>but anon! How did they conduct their study they're biased.

Great question, that's critical thinking. That is a good thing. A question posed by the 3% of scientists denying climate change. They did their own counter study, with their own definitions and their own biases (because both sides are always bias.

They found it was closer to 80%, and declared "as can see, it's not like all of them.. It's just a very large majority. Therefore NASA lied and none of it can possibly true."

I'm paraphrasing but that was essentially their stance after.

>>681943722
your acting like this is the 50s. even in the 50s people knew that they held the power over authority. there is no conspiracy or government manipulation.

when the government do try to manipulate peoples opinions, they get called out today because the internet exists.
>look at iraq war

>>681938164
>Most of you people are either trolls are complete fucktards. There is a direct emperical relationship between human CO2 emmisions and the rising temperature of the Earth


Only problem is that temperatures are not rising out of the norm. The only rise in temperature is in the models themselves and this only occurs when they artificially lower past temperatures and artificially show a rise in current temperature.

You are being played for a fool and since you have no idea how to think critically any longer, you are actually stupid enough to believe what you are being told is fact.

>>681943806

Dipshit

http://www.snopes.com/religion/redsea.asp

>>681943540

This is true. The rest of the world is laughing at American rebublicans who deny climate change, in the same way they laugh at creationists.

Then again, the percentage of uneducated morons is higher in the US than in any other developed country.

>>681943924
>NASA's study
the government owns them mate

>>681943806
http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Evidence_for_the_Exodus

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>>681944046

> When climate change deniers call people out for being unable to think critically and believing what they are told

Kek, bet you think vaccines cause autism and evolution is a hoax too

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>>681943887

Wait, you don't believe in global warming and you believe in chemtrails?

>>681935317
1. No sources for your claims.
2. The average temperature in most places is increasing.
3. Ice masses like Greenland are losing area everyday.
4. The increase in our CO2 emissions is way past the ideal. We're at a relative high.
5. Although mankind is not all to blame for the entirety of climate change, we're the ones who are mostly responsible for it.
6. Aside from our carbon emissions at a high, we're responsible for the holes in the ozone layer that haven't gotten much better. At least we put an international stop to them.

Liberal cucktards? More like you're the conservative cucktard who hasn't done his homework to even be aware of the problems.

>>681944140

> All scientists are wrong and being paid by the government
> Therefore whatever they say the opposite is true, the vast majority of scientists who spend years studying the subject say global warming is true, therefore it is false

Brb, gonna go for a fly, I'm not gonna buy into this "gravity" myth these con-artist government shill scientists have been peddling for years.

>>681940080
Oil is at the lowest prices it has been in 30 years... open a window and look outside....

>>681944284
You're a short-sighted idiot for thinking to put evolution and vaccines together in a group and limiting someone that way.

>>681943924
>None of them were caught faking data. NASA's study and review found 97% of climate scientists agree


Uh, No. They have been caught faking data. And that 97% number is as fake a global warming is=.

>>681939130
Cool chart but Dracula should share that middle piece of the chart with Jesus. Fucking supernatural denialists, will you ever learn?

>>681944046

Not that you're not obvioulsy trolling, but what basis do you have for those statements? I mean, you being a critical thinker and all.

>>681944083

I don't even blame them. They don't have laws like the rest of us against misleading and lying on the news.

They have one powerful propaganda machine, and anti science interest groups can just buy official looking billboard ads to promote their stance unchecked.

They also use one on one debates and make them huge spectacles, which gives the illusion the facts are 50/50, and LEDs credibility to the dude on the wrong side.

Also rhetoric works all too well in that country.

I'd be confused too.

>>681943540
If you don't agree with lies, you are an idiot..... nice.. paid to post much fool?

>>681944482
theory of gravity was opposed by government rule
>must be true

theories produced today are used by government
>politicians = liars
>theories today must be false

>>681944500

It's analogous though.

The same thought process it takes to say

> Hurr durr the majority of experts who devote decades of high level study to this field are wrong and I am right

Is identical for climate change deniers, anti-vaxxers and creationists.

It's unbelievably high levels of arrogance, delusions of being the more intelligent people, utter mistrust of anything resembling a government and believing anything republicans say.

While it is of course possible to be a climate change denier and also accept evolution as a fact and understand vaccines don't cause autism you're still just as stupid and wrong as the other two groups

Here's a basic formula

The experts > You

It takes a real crazy belief in conspiracies to think that over 90% of the experts worldwide in a given field are being paid out to lie.

>>681944046
The choice is to believe in the scientific process and the idea that if one scientist just makes shit up and skews the data, others will call him out on it, or to believe in a huge scientist conspiracy.
As a member of the scientific community, albeit in a totally different field, I refuse to believe that scientists could successfully pull off such a conspiracy. Or even stop arguing for long enough to try and organise it in the first place.

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>>681939205
You all can be an heroes
I'm going to keep driving my mustang and eating my cheeseburgers
I'm telling my kids they can go to Mars someday though

>>681943540
Yes, this seems fair enough to me.

>>681944919
Truth

>>681943784
Have you actually read anything on both sides of the debate? only 500k in emails were released showing the data was being faked. They blatantly admitted they were faking the data because the government was paying for it.

Fucking retards arguing a point that has been absolutely proven to be a lie...Seriously, you guys need to invest in K-tel records..

>>681944762

If you believe they are lies and people are being paid to make 4chan posts to call you dumb then yes, you are an idiot.

>>681944662

Yeah, America's problems is fundamentalist religion, that necessarily have to promote anti-intellectualism and anti-scientism. These morons are taught to distrust science because science contradicts their religion.

>>681944404
So NASA admits, publicly they did this, but somehow I have to "believe"? back to sunday school with you kid.. seriously... read before you post. You are what is wrong with the world.

>>681944762
Yes I was paid to invite you to do independent study and research away from the biases of both sides, where, if it was a lie, you'd surely figure it out.

>>681944919

/Thread

>>681945067

Source on that please.

>>681945087
Paid posts are still paid... even on this shitty board... morons..

>>681944980
lol, mars is an unrealistic prospect.

sure you can travel there someday.
yeah you can survive for a while.
but unless we actually create a base powered by renewable energy to provide light and heat etc. you'll just die up there

>>681945067

> Fucking retards arguing a point that has been absolutely proven to be a lie.

Yes, that global warming is a myth. That's been proven to be a lie.

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OP is actually right. The earth goes through cycles of cooling, followed by rapid increases in temperature. These phases happen in 40,000 hear cycles. The amount of carbon dioxide humans produce does not have a significant effect on climate, because vegetation and the ocean absorb most of it.

What IS dangerous however, the level of deforrestation being performed across the world.

>>681945355
lrn 2 google idiot.. If you have never heard of Wikileaks, Edward Snowden or others.. you need to finish school.

>>681945449
This is absolutely true.. Global warming IS a myth.. it's thereto give the government a new tax that even they admit won't help change anything. This tax just goes into general revenue.

>>681945397
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paranoid_schizophrenia

>>681944625
>Dracula = Jesus
Over 90% of scientists agree that Jesus became Dracula after his crucifixion yet so many deniers out there making stupid charts like that other anon. Its really a shame so many jerks out there

>>681943887
Cite your sources. If this information was not published in a relevant scientific journal with good reputation and peer review, it has no value. You don't even say what person in NASA has made this claim. In short, peer review or it didn't happen.

>>681945669
Cites Wikipedia...

nice..obviously never finished school.

>>681935317
You can't convince them of anything. Despite their preaching of tolerance they are extremely set in their beliefs and will not even entertain the opinions of others. The resort to insulting the intelligence of and projecting their self loathing and guilt onto others.

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>>681945397

> He actually thinks his opinion is so important that the government pays people to argue with him

Pic related.

This is the heart of any conspiracy theorist, they are the original special snowflakes, they want to be special and unique and believe they are important.

If you were born in the tumblr generation you'd be an intersex transgender lesbian identifying male.

>>681936102
Jesus Fuck, how stupid can you get?

>>681945652

Read my post again.

>>681936070
/thread
Information without a source is worthless.

>>681945508

So no source then.

It's easy to say

"WOW even after the scientists admitted to lying about global warming you still believe it"

But it's quite hard to provide a citation that isn't infowars.com isn't it?

>>681945721
Blow me... Google it idiot

>>681945687
Fucking bullshit. Everyone knows that those scientists are shills for the agnostic/athiests trying to descredit Jesus and all he has done for this world. Wake up!

>>681945756
I was paid to post that by wikipedia.
Also do you seriously think that wikipedia contains an inaccurate definition of paranoid schizophrenia? Do you even read the posts you reply to?

>>681936367
still not seeing a source...

>>681945987
There has been zero ...thats ZERO sources in this entire thread... but YOU expect others to do work for you... eat a dick

>>681946088
Wikipedia cannot be used as a source you moronic twat. Take a university level course and watch you get thrown out for citing wiki-fucking-pedia.

>>681945756

Differentfag. That was the opinion when I was in school 11 years ago and Wikipedia was new. It has since been declared an accurate and credible source. It is still no good as an academic source because it's information is very broad. But for a general topic, like, paranoid schizophrenia as the other guy posted, it is acceptable to brief on information.

Also I don't think he was trying to convince you of anything. I think it was a jab at you saying you have paranoid schizophrenia. You weren't at all expected to read it. And the fact that you missed that brings seriously brings your intelligence into question.


http://www.cnet.com/news/study-wikipedia-as-accurate-as-britannica/

>>681942394
Kek