>>680955970
No but it does open up your mind to more things. Also there is a god, but not in the way most people believe

It has nothing to do with intelligence. Being an atheist means that you are not mentaly ill.

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Of course it does. If you're a fully grown adult and still follow a belief system that goat herders created to feebly attempt to describe the world around them; you're a thundering dolt.

>>680955970
yes, instead of wasting brain power on stupid religious beliefs & rituals the mind is free to pursuit better things with critical & logical thinking

>>680955970
no, being more intelligent makes you an atheist

>yes

No. It makes you more rational though.

>>680955970
no it just means that you call your unprovable beliefs something different

>>680955970
yes

>>680955970

No, it doesn't at all. I don't believe in God or afterlife or anything, and I don't think it automatically makes me intelligent. Anyone who does is a fucking retard.

>>680955970
Does having an opinion make it said opinion factual?

>>680956715
It does if it's my opinion.

>>680955970
no but being intelligent makes most people atheists.

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>>680956370
I'm sure you thought that was a clever things to say except every time i see one of these threads i see that fucking comment copy and pasted 20x

Not really.

It does seem to automatically make you some kind of self important whiny bitch though.

Atheists are a lot like feminists except they feel micro aggressions come from the church and bitch.

I don't even tell people I'm an atheist because it has become such a shitty thing to be.

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>>680955970

No. Being an Agnostic makes you more open minded and intelligent.

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>>680955970
ITT: No body respect Atheist and no body respect people who serve God.

Why can't people mind there own shit? Who cars who believes in what..


You can't prove god exist and trust me you can't.. but you also can'y prove he doesn't exist... soo it's really just pick "Blue team or "Red" team... at the end of the day no one gives a fuck.

>>680957095
because it a fact. IQ correlates very well with atheism. Google it up.
Not attempting to be original or witty.

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>>680955970
No but being intelligent makes you an Atheist.

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>>680955970
Not really, i'v seen some Atheist so loud mouthed it makes you want to blow your brains out, i don't believe in god but i don't bother to call my self an Atheist, because i don't hold the door open for Women or tip my Fedora.

>>680956195
Mentally ill decease that been spread by indoctrine

>>680956370
/thread

There's nothing inherent about atheism that makes a person more intelligent.

There are plenty of stupid atheists and plenty of intelligent religious people.

>>680955970
It makes you right , but not better in any way .

>>680957446
>because it a fact. IQ correlates very well with atheism.

[CITATION NEEDED]

>>680958467
/Thread

>>680958137

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>>680956340
>>680956344
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>>680958067
cringe

>>680955970
Nope. Just dead.

>>680958467
Only partially right. I've met plenty of dumb atheists but never a truly intelligent religious person. By definition they lack the critical thinking skills to be considered intelligent.

>>680958137
I'm an atheist but I can't stand 80% of atheists.

I used to be one of those "fuck your god" atheists when I was a 16 year old edgy kid, but I've moved past that. It seems like most atheists have issues moving past that stage though.

No, because if you knew shit you'd know that the church nowadays is a widely ignored source of finding young women to fuck (and would make a good wife if you're into marriage). It's not that hard to fake it and as long as you keep the act up nobody will know.

Only downside is the ones who actually believe in the no premarital sex thing, but deep down almost all Christians are bad Christians and it's mostly an act. Think of Church more like a social club.

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>implying being an immature edgy rebellious 15 year old that hates God because you have daddy issues makes you more intelligent

BEING an athiest does not MAKE you more intelligent. More intelligent people are simply more inclined to become athiest instead of simply following the stupidity of the masses. Not saying that there isn't a god for sure that may have created the big bang or something before it, but it's certainly not a man in the sky that created the world a few thousand years ago.

>>680958764
Don't you think you could be biased?

Your perception of intelligence is automatically manipulated as soon as you figure out they are religious.

I understand the rationale why that may be to some very small degree, but you kind of took that and ran with it at an extreme level.

>>680955970
No. Believing that religion is the root of every conflict in human history is just as retarded as cowaring in a church.

just like Christians need The Devil, in order to know themselves as good, atheists needs religion in order to identify themselves as enlightened.

all narratives are a flat circle.

>>680955970
I don't think it makes you more intelligent, but it makes you right.

>>680958764
>who was Albert Einstein and Niels Bohr

>>680955970
yes, and vice versa

>>680958867
Btw, let me correct what I said, more intelligent people are more inclined to be athiest OR agnostic

>>680958990
Lol, i like this.

>>680957220
you cant be agnostic without being an atheist since all modern religions require a gnostic viewpoint as part of their practice

>>680959046

How does having the belief that there is no God make you right? Wouldn't that mean religious people having the belief that there is a God be right too? Your logic is retarded anon.

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>>680955970
fun fact:

richard dawkins invented the term meme and considered religions the be ultra memes basically

>>680958867
>simply following the stupidity of the masses
the whole YEAH SCIENCE BITCH crew, do exactly this.

>>680958635
are you saying that there's no correlation between rationalism and intelligence?

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No, but atheism and IQ correlate together

>>680959048
agnostics you retard I'm a physicist myself and am very much familiar with the lives and works of Einstein and Bohr.

>>680959154
ultimate irony: Dawkins became a meme.

>>680959113

Sorry, but you're wrong. I am Agnostic. Not an Atheist. I don't have proof that there is no God. Neither do you. And neither does everybody else on this planet for that matter.

>>680959084
and let ME, random anon, fix that for you.

the most intelligent people ARE agnostic. Atheists are often pretty illogical and retarded individuals.

agnostics cant prove nor disprove, but say, "hey, maybe, like, it could be real...or maybe not. I dont know"

>>680958764
I'm an athiest, and I come from a scientific background, but I can still tell you there definitely are and were smart religious people

>>680959269
I'm not who you responded to but Ben Carson is one that should ring a bell.

Maybe "truly intelligent" needs to be defined, but he's definitely more intelligent than 95% of the population.

>>680959202
no, I'm not. But I'm saying that correlation is not causality.

>>680955970
>Does being an Atheist make you more intelligent?
No, but intelligent people are often atheist.

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>>680959202
I think he means more around the fact most Atheist don't know when to shut up.

He never said he didn't believe in god he was just simply showing every ones cringey remarks.

Atheists are social and identity leeches
They have the lowest view imaginable of religious people and think it's okay to use the fact that they're not them as their entire identity

>>680959368
He's literally a nutjob conspiracy theorist. Do you not watch the news?

>>680956370
/thread

>>680956370
I agree.

>>680959269
"The most beautiful emotion we can experience is the mysterious. It is the power of all true art and science. He to whom this emotion is a stranger, who can no longer wonder and stand rapt in awe, is as good as dead. To know that what is impenetrable to us really exists, manifesting itself as the highest wisdom and the most radiant beauty, which our dull faculties can comprehend only in their most primitive forms -- this knowledge, this feeling, is at the center of true religiousness. In this sense, and in this sense only, I belong to the rank of devoutly religious men."

- Einstein.

>2016
>believes in materialism

>>680959410
name some.

>>680959269
Yep, but to be more specific, note the anthropic principles. They are agnostic towards THAT, not towards organized religion. You have to specify that for stupid people to understand the difference

>>680959132
not believing in god is correct. mearly belieing in something doesnt make it right...... for instance people who believe they cannot breath water are correct.. if a person simple decides that they believe they can breath underwater they will be incorrect and drown

>>680959301
do you have proof there arent subterrarean caves on pluto containing unicorns?

no? ok so we all accept the possibility that theyre there.

>>680959132
No, it's not.. your comprehension skills are poor and your assumption has no logical connection.

Believing that there is not a god makes you right. You can be a retard and say an absolute truth as well as you can be a savant and say something that is exceptionally wrong. It's not the credentials of the messenger that add validity to the message, it's the message that does. That was my whole point, but you slipped up terrible there.

>>680959461
Pretty much this.

Just retards who believe they aren't as retarded as others by doing the same damn thing - listening to some bigger retards opinions.

>>680957095
It's not the common response because it's clever, you idiot. It's common because it's obvious. Statistically, people with higher IQ are much more likely to be atheist. This isn't because your choice of beliefs magically changes your brain. It's because being smarter leads to different choices. Save your butthurt for something that doesn't make you look like a moron.

>>680959497
Has nothing to do with his studies or ability to perform complex tasks.

Pretty sure Alex Jones is an atheist and is also a nutjob.

The whole point I'm driving at is either can be completely retarded or intelligent, but the view that both have towards each other just completely fucks the perception.

The inherent bias they have towards the other side basically makes both of them incapable of admitting intelligence of the other in most cases.

>>680955970
Being an atheists makes you just as unintelligent as being religious, the real intelligent people are agnostic.

>>680959368
>ben carson
>intelligent

BAAAHHAHAHHAHAAAHAHAHAHA

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>>680959515
>>680956370
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>>680959410


Someone is same fagging really hard.

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>>680959301
youre trolling right?
surely any person, certainly someone who claims to be rational would know the definition of the words hes labeling himself with.
Im not going to sit here and try to convince you to make more of a dumbass out of yourself so ill just post a graph for anyone who might be curious about the subject.

>>680959298
yes but society has bastardized the term meme to mean macro picture. "meme" is supposed to be synonymous with "fad"

>>680955970
Yeah my dog and 4 year old son are so much smarter than stephen colbert

>>680959727
Being a good politician is not an indicator of intelligence, we all know that.

Dude is a neurosurgeon. Regardless of anything retarded he said, he's still more intelligent than 95% of the population..

>>680956370
That's what happened to me although I would use the word "enlightened".

>>680957101
devout Christian here, my kik is: Nighva

Come debate me you stupid atheists

>>680955970
No, because you are wasting time denying god. if you want to be more intelligent, learn something. The fact that you even asked that question means that you aren't the brightest bulb in the batch.

No.
If you choose to be an atheist, you don't magically become more intelligent.
However, a lot of intelligent people are atheists, or at least agnostic, because they're the ones that question things and don't take everything at face value.
They don't get told one of the stories of one of the different gods and think "Welp. That's me sorted. That must be it. Not even going to think about other possibilities."

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>>680959674
I hope you're joking.

>>680959317

your thought on the celestial tea pot?

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>>680959796
>>680959301
related

>>680959912
Deny Allah and Mohammed and they will behead you, dont forget that

>>680959258
They don't correlate actually;
A more actuate claim is that anti-organized religion correlates to intelligence + education - [whatever beliefs your parents/society taught you as facts] (analytical intelligence helps you cancel that last one out to become agnostic or atheist, though obviously there ARE stupid atheists and agnostics out there, where are that simply because their parents/friends are)

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>>680959727
Carson was the first surgeon, to successfully separate conjoined twins connected at the head.

sure, he's a raving conservatard and republicunt, but saying he's not intelligent is rather daft, anon.

>>680959393
only a few of those posts made that claim.

>>680957220
Agnostic = pandering.

>>680955970
In this episode of "does A make you B"

>>680959813
so, he simply came up with a new word for "fad". What a grand contributor to out species.

>>680956456
No, it just means you belief in the most likely thing to be proven, instead of trying to bend proof to what you want to believe.
It's reason vs wish fulfillment, and while intelligence makes it easier to understand reason, you can still be blinded by what you want to be true, even if you are extremely intelligent.

I would say no. Many doctors are pretty religious

>>680959887
>Dude is a neurosurgeon.
he left a rag in a womans fucking brain
when she complained of headaches he basically told her to fuck off
finally somebody xrayed her and saw the rag and he was like "lol oops"

>>680955970

The only thing you can be that would make you more intelligent is educated.

Atheism and intelligence are not related.
Religion and intelligence are not related.

>>680959533
is this post trying to claim that einstein was religious?
because he was not.

this quote is actually explicitly stating that.

>>680960120
The truth is no one will ever be able to definitivley prove how the cosmos started and being agnostic is admitting that.

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OK guys let's get one things straight, you can't disprove god nor can you prove god.

Every one has an opinion, and when people say being an Atheist is "Fact" makes me cringe so fucking hard, HOW ARE YOU SO FUCKING SURE?

Most Atheist come from a religious family, and that's how the "Majority" are at least.

Be honest with your self guys, you don't know for sure that there is no god.

But i'm sure someone will try to call me a fucking idiot when in reality that's not a valid awnser.

Get back with be when you figured out what went on before the big bang. And don't say nothing, because there was always something.

>>680958764
True. I had an interesting talk about how religion is a virus of the mind with a fellow atheist coworker. That same day he wanted me to watch this "awesome" documentary on Bigfoot.

>>680955970
Not inherently, but a lot of intelligent people are atheist. There are also a bunch of intelligent people who are religious though.

>>680959368
>95%
That's only 1 in 20
By that definition even *I* fit into that category, considering I got 97th percentile in math, 98th percentile in science, and 90th percentile in English for my age group

>>680955970
>Does being an Atheist make you more intelligent?

No. Being more intelligent makes you an Atheist.

>>680960487
Bruh u went 2 deep for me

>>680955970
Being objective does

>>680960487
/Thread

>>680958635
this is real cringe

>>680960487

Proof of god is not possible. You can't disprove something if there isn't proof of it existing. It would be like proving vampires don't exist.

You can, however, disprove events The Bible claims to have happened such as the Great Flood, indication that the Earth is only 6,000 years old, etc.

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>>680955970
Just gonna remind everyone that the most Christian States in America are also the most poorest and least educated

>>680960487
Fucking idiot

>>680960080
>Carson was the first surgeon, to successfully separate conjoined twins connected at the head.
im sure that was more the doing of the patients than the surgeon. IOW, if another brain surgeon operated on those exact twins I bet the outcome would have been the same

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>>680959715
lol... are you under the impression that agnostics think there is a 50/50 chance that god exists?

>>680960661
(Me again) Also yeah despite that Ben Carson doesn't even reach there, but your Ben Carson comment is like 50% chance bait

>>680959924
>because they're the ones that question things and don't take everything at face value.

people in most religions are encouraged to question things, from that believe. in order to get a better understanding of themselves and the religion.

Needless to say they have safety nets so that they don't go a drift and lose faith.

Much in the same way atheists use safety nets in order for them to remain non-believers. they just don't wanna know about it and will not challenge themselves to any route that is deviating them from their own path.

its the same fucking thing in both camps. people simply pick a side and stick by it no matter what.

>>680960759
Not true, the ones sea that carried the ark that's now a dessert holds sea creatures barried under the dirt.

Do a little re-serch before you make a fucking fool of your self.

>>680960487
You need to understand the evidence for gods is in the same level as dragons and unicorns. I'm not being condiscending. When you say things like "can't be disproved" it becomes a malformed question.

>>680955970
depends on if you are intelligent to begin with.

>>680960920
I never said there was a 50/50 chance god existed, im saying i have no clue how the cosmos started and until we have definitive proof of either or i wont admit to.

>>680960759
No where in the bible did the anyone say the Earth is 6,000 years old.

Human life yes.. the earth.. no... the earth has been here for a crazy amount of time.

>>680956159
its the fucking algorithm, its not even sentient.

human can't handle that.

>>680960211
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meme

theres more to it than that of course

>>680960456
How do you know it will never be discovered? I think we need to be a little more humble in that regard. It was once believed that only Zues can bring the rain.

>>680959796
"I believe no good exists" is what I fall under, but I still call myself an athiest

>>680961119
You need to understand saying you don't believe in god is like saying i don't believe in the wind because i can't see it.

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>>680955970
Are mostly atheist smarter than him?

No, but it used to. Classic atheism was a magnificent brain pool that would constantly keep the Church on it's toes. Nowadays, New atheism is a fucking joke and atheists have no philosophical expertise in which to articulate their views (or lack their of).

I'm Christian. I miss debating honest to goodness atheists who had a classical background. It's like watching your sparring partner become an alcoholic.

Fucking clean your shit up, atheists.

>>680959170
The scientISTS do not. Just because a lot of people don't educate themselves doesn't mean that science isn't educated. Since there's no point and no way to ban stupid people from agreeing with science, you can fuck off with your dumbass comment.

>>680961209
my view is that the reality is much more out there and absurd than we have yet to imagine

>>680957220
Being agnostic isn't a position though, it's a way to elaborate on the position you hold to be more clear. "I don't know if a god exists, but I find it unlikely" = agnostic atheist. "I don't know if a god exists, but I would like to believe one does"= agnostic theist.

>>680961347
fucking newton man, hyperboling apples and thinking his sperm can be gold

>>680961327
you can clearly see wind anon

>>680961477
Oh yea? I can hear lighting to.

>>680956370
/thread

>>680960006
You're a fucking tard. That pic is so wrong, because if a person is agnostic they done believe there is no God, they simply don't take a stance on believing anything because you don't have to pic a side just because you don't know what the truth is.

what if there is a reason we cannot proof God exists?

something like humans becoming total cucks once they realize a supreme being exists.
I bet 95% of the world's population would become entitled, even more lazy, expecting HIM to solve crap and having no incentive to move things forward because you know...HE is there, let him fix it.

>>680960550
he was trying to quote dawkins

>>680961327
You can't be serious. The wind is measurable. There is no mechanism by which to measure anything outside the natural world. Therefore there is no difference between anything supernatural (including gods) and non-existence.

>>680958808
let me guess, you're about 17-19 and going into college. You think of yourself as quite the adult yet watch leafy videos. am I right or am I right?

>>680961405
Mind debating an agnostic?

>>680958533
on mobile but this seems to sum it up nicely

http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/religious-people-less-intelligent-atheists_n_3750096.html

tl;dr it's a meta-analysis of 63 different studies that commonly show that religious people are genrrally less intelligent

>>680960391
".. In this sense, and in this sense only, I belong to the rank of devoutly religious men."
he was a free thinker, a man of faith in God but with no affiliation to organized religion. That means that yes, he was religious; but not in adherence to dogmatic, organized religion.

>>680961595
No it wasn't in a correlation to religion kind of way. He's an atheist that believes in Bigfoot.

>>680961347
Not even gonna explain the huge irony AND stupidity in your comment, but all I'll say is that that claim does not determine whether God exists or not.

>>680961539
yea i know

>>680960006

I like how to Agnostic is normal and the Atheist looks like a NEET. Very accurate representation.

>>680960752
ur mom is reel krænge

>>680959533
Only a religious retard would quote this as pro-god.

>>680955970
No, being more intelligent makes you an athiest

>dawkins
>einstein
>hawking

>>680961741
>huffpost.com

Stopped reading there.

>>680961868
EXACTLY! Thanks

>>680961780
"At the atomic level, your autism is only surpassed by your faggotry."

- A.Einstein

You know what? I'm out. Even half of the atheists and agnostics here are stupid.

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>>680961327

you can see wind, and it can be sensed in many other ways

>>680955970
I actually have real life challenges so I can't consistently obsess over whether God is real or not, what does that do for intelligence?

>>680961930
>680961595
>fag
>jew
>derp

>>680960810
no matter is other surgeons could've done it, it is still testament to the fact that Carson is intelligent. If he wasn't intelligent, he would've never become a surgeon in the first place.

other people could've found The Americas, too. But Columbus was first, still.

huevo de colon, motherfucker.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Egg_of_Columbus

>>680959059
If you are not a troll, im gonna kill myself on the spot

>>680961978
>stopped reading there
I bet you did. Too many big words after that Mr. Religiousfag?

>>680961258
I know, bro. I was just being funny. I made a joke.

s-sorry.

>>680958808

Underrated post.

>>680959059

>because this is analogous

>>680955970
Atheism doesn't breed intelligence. Intelligence breeds Atheism.

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>>680961406
uneducated people talk about science, in an attempt to make themselves look smart. You know this, you fucking idiot. Just like uneducated bigots use religion to legitimize their stupidity.

you
endless
twat

>>680960759
....biggest idiot itt. keep coughing up other peoples thoughts on the matter that are ignorant and outdated.

the bible has more factual accounts than you think, retard. it has a lot of nonsense in it.

dumbass

also, define wht a vampire is? there are people who drink blood and sleep in coffins (theyre fucking crazy, but they still exist). last time i checked the only definition is that they drink blood and sleep in coffins and shit

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>>680961597
I see you're splitting hairs now, that's fine, i'll split hairs as well.

Most will argue the fact Aliens exist even though the majority have never seen an Alien.
and the people to claim to of seen an Alien are clearly missing a couple screws, it's easy to look into ones eye and see someone isin't fully there.

It's ok though i understand where you are coming from, you might lay in bed at night thinking well is there really was a god there is no way he'd allow all the bullshit going on in the world right now... right? or how do we know it's god and not a diffrent foreign god?
Hell maybe even Aliens?... I know you think along these lines, we all have time to kill at the end of the day to test our intelligence; it's human nature.

And guess what, at the end of the day you don't know for sure, and there will always be that thorn in your thinking... the "What if" thorn.

You'll never be sure. just as you can't comperhend the vast amount of stars in the vast open nor will you ever understand how the space between the stars will go forever.

I'm not sure i believe in god my self, but i'll never be so closed minded to compleatly shut out the idea.

And sorry for some of my grammar issues i may of made, i'm on my Iphone.

>>680955970
Coming from an atheist, no, it doesn't.

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>>680956344
.... Like 4chan memes.
Good job, master minds.

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>>680961868
>>680962006
>implying I quoted this as "pro God" or pro anything

I was making the point, that Einstein was not an atheist. Deal the fuck with it however you like.

>>680962309
lol its hard to tell whos troll and whos dumb

>>680961930
jfc you moron Dawkins says he is a agnostic

eintstein wasnt an atheist dipshit

hawking isnt atheist either

wow fucking ignorant atheist scum

>>680955970
Yes, in general
But
Religion makes you braver in general.

Ain't no atheists in a foxhole man.

In.the end though, who cares? Any person with reasonable intelligence will say if God exists it'll be much larger than we can imagine, that hell isn't real and that God really wouldn't give a shit what you call it or that you call it at all. Just don't be a cunt and use this gift of life to the fullest and it'll be happy. And if you fuck up and kill a billion people. It'll just say yes I knew that would happen because I am alpha and omega and ordained it.

>>680962743
some are both bro, and they don't even know.

>>680962744
Do Christians even browse /b/?

>>680956159
>Also there is a god

>Citation needed

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>>680962878
>Religion makes you braver in general.

....yup

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>>680955970
No it doesn't, it just opens up the opportunity to be slightly more open-minded. I'm an Atheist myself, and know some Christians that are almost as open-minded if not more than other Atheists I know, if you can believe that.