I'd say 5 or more is perfectly acceptable

>>678065092
why tip someone for doing their job ?

what about 3 dollars?

>>678065363
cuck detected

>>678065092
Offer to suck his dick.

>>678065356
$1.50

reword it and say, "a game costs $1 plus 50% tax" and its essentially the same shit.

nigger

>>678065092
I tip 2-3 dollars for a pizza.

10 dollars is perfect if you order 200 dollars worth of pizza

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>>678065092
Doesn't matter, either way pizza delivery guy is fucked.

>>678065473
>somehow thinking that tipping is stupid makes someone a cuck

How's that $15 minimum wage going?

>>678065092

tips should be whichever is higher between 4 dollars or 15 percent of the total.

>>678065701

but how much for a cheese pizza???

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>>678065363
America, thats why.

depending on how far the place is, i usually give 3 plus 2 for every mile from the store.

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>>678065712
lol

>>678065711

this is incorrect.

>>678065701

that is low, unless you are black.

>>678065815

this seems very logical and reasonable

>>678065092
No, if you can't afford $20 for tip then pickup your own goddamn pizza.

>>678065356
$2
Price = $1 + 0.5*Price
0.5*Price = $1
Price = $2

>>678065768
I think about 18 bucks after tax. Then the delivery fee is about 2.25 so I only tip 2.

>>678065989
I don't care if its low :^)

>>678065989
ok you got me 10 dollars for 100 dollars worth of pizza

>>678065758
Shut the fuck up dipshit. If I eat for fucking 6 bucks I won't leave a 4 dollar tip. Pffffff. 2 dollars max. And the biggest tip I have left was 20 bucks from 150 dollar meal. Fuck that shit. If you want a bigger tip, go under the table and suck my dick. If you're a guy bad luck son.

>>678065092
I got tired of humming and hawing, so i just go Deliveries :
On time - 18% of bill
Late (im not gonna be a bitch on a sporting event day or holiday, so i mean like... run of the mill late) 2 bucks for the effort

In restaurant
18% unless the service was awful, in which case 2 bucks because at least I didnt have to cook

>>678065989
>says the currently/ex poor and upset pizza delivery boy

why would you pay someone when your not forced to pay ?

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>>678065363
Worked delivery for a few months. Have to pay for your own gas. If you order somewhere far and don't tip, don't expect priority.

>>678065356
about tree fiddy

>>678066093

>you fail hard

I deliver in an uppermiddle class area, like four or five snobbier cities near the ocean. They tip on Average 5 to 10 bucks, I can make 100 bucks in 3 and a half hours plus my 7/hr rate on a good day.
People that tip ten bucks are gods, unless it's like a 500 dollar order, gimme a 50 spot fgt

>>678065092

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T4S2EyB9iTA

>>678066225
my place will give you a buck for local shit, and they used to do up to 3.50 in gas compensation if you drove really far, which was dope if you got a 10 dollar tip, its 13.50, but now they averaged it all out and it's a flat buck twenty five per run, which still by far is not shitty at all, but le wtf. why not 1.50? MATHER FUCKAR

>>678066539
what a fucking faggot

>>678065092
Unless you ordered $60 worth of pizza, that's too much.

>>678066178

Cheap bastard. Where are you from? Alabama?

20% minimum, and then I'm talking to your manager. 25% regular service, 35% for good service. 40% rounded up for excellent service. That's pretty much standard for most people.

>>678066730
def a junkie, def shot that shit up and died like right afterward.

I'm still fucking waiting for my shit, I make double what the female drivers I work the exact same shifts with make. And it's not like we have cheap pizza, a large cheese is like 16 bucks after taxes, so the tips are weighted to be higher if the customers do a real 15 or 20% tip, but they DEF stiff these people, and it's kinda fucked up because one's like really fat and far gone, but the other's this really sweet old lady who reminds me of my grandma and im like 'HOW DID THIS GRANDMA GET STIFFED ON 3 OUT OF 10 DELIVERIES AND IM GETTING NO LESS THAN FOUR OR FIVE BUCKS A POP?!?!?!?!?

>>678065363
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>>678066176
>>678066213
>>678066113

then come fucking get it your damn self

>>678066176

there is no way you can order a pizza delivered for 6 dollars. promptly end your own life.

>>678066178

> punishing the driver for the store's fault.

drivers take pizzas only when they are done cooking. guess who does not cook the pizza?

>>678066216

there are two types of americans that do not tip

1) people who have never worked a day in their life. this is common for 4chan users as they are young, un/underemployed, often live with their parents, and generally sheltered from reality

2) cunts.

>>678066822
Where the fuck are you from then? No way I'd pay that much anywhere in Cali at least. It's 15% ok job, 20% good job and 5-10% when its a bad job.

>>678067067
Stop fucking offering the service asshole! Stop.

So... does every occupation in yankeeland expect tips or just the food industry?

Do you have to declare tip income?

>>678067015

lol, cause grandma's smart dude. She pocket that cash and pay no tax. Unlike you reporting your tips like a sucka.

>>678067078
I was talking generally, but I've gotten 10 dollar pizza delivery and there is NO way I would tip more than 2 bucks. You're fucking dreaming.

>>678067307

just certain jobs. delivery drivers and waiters get paid less than minimum wage because tips are part of their wage.

it is illegal not to declare tips.

>>678067078
Dominos used to have a 35 minutes or its free policy. not anymore.

honestly i figured I was being fair but at this point fuck em. we need a culling and lets start with the current gen of fast food employees

for crying out loud i ordered boston pizza in and the 18% tip was 12 dollars. go fuck yourself if you think you deserve more for driving 8 minutes because im too drunk to drive

>>678067482
>delivery drivers and waiters get paid less than minimum wage

Man, that sucks. I understand tip culture now.

>>678067246
Just like a fucking nigger, take advantage of the services offered to you by people who want to give you a better experience and all you care about is your own goddamn self. Must be nice living like an asshole. I guess that's what happens when daddy is heavy handed and mommy makes all the money.

Also, general behind the scenes post to put you fags in the right tipping state of mind - and here's the mind blower.

The delivery driver, unless they are an ultimate autist, are not responsible for your pizza being hot or cold. It's the restaurant. Take it from me, I worked at one place that had two drivers on a friday night to cover like five towns around a major higheway. I left that place and work at a different branch - same store just a different manager, and we have five drivers at night. If you get five to ten deliveries ordered per hour, like both restaurants getting the same action, who's getting the pizzas there faster? Two guys taking two or three orders at a time or five people taking doubles? The driver isn't 45 minutes away from you, your order is - if it's backed up that shit sometimes doesn't even get out of the oven until 40 minutes later, and then it takes them five or ten minutes to commute the order, bang - if they promised 45 and the driver got there in 50, you're going to say that it's that guy's fault that he's been driving around all night and walked in thirty seconds before picking up your order and gunning it over to your place? Think about this shit! Delivery drivers are pawns, messangers, they just pick shit up and bring it places!

>i am high as fuck, forgive me
>dubs

>>678065356
2 dollars... the rest of you suckers go back to college algebra

>>678065668
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>>678067524
Exactly. Then don't fucking offer the service and quit the job. I'm tired of these whiny bastards " bawwwww I'm not getting ripped like granny" fucking idiots. I don't owe you shit.

>>678067787
I meant fuckers*

>>678067452

that is also highly unlikely. most places have a minimum 10 dollar or higher order amount, and that is pre-fee and pre-tax.

>>678067524

15 percent is the amount, i have no idea why you are saying 18 percent.

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>>678067078
There are 1 type of people who tip.

retarded faggots.

>>678067648
Like i said a little eariler, I get 7 bucks an hour when I'm driving. I also make pizza in the kitchen some nights, I get four dollars more an hour just because im making the pizza, not delivering it. And there are kids out there making like 15 bucks an hour to make pizza, while drivers get like 9 dollars and hour max. If you get 9 bucks an hour to deliver pizza and the tips aren't bad, you could probably save a decent bit if you're not blowing it all on rent and living like a normal person, but then again people in my company aren't the same as people who work for sub shops that do make like 5 bucks an hour and get stiffed by the poor assholes that can't throw three bucks on a 30 dollar order

>>678067708
Well nope. Make around 170k a year in silicone valley. If you don't like your job , quit. If you don't do a good job, don't expect shit. However for a 10 dollar pizza I won't pay more than 2 bucks tip. Talk to your fucking manager to raise up the delivery charge you asshole. So your customers are the dipshits in your world? No fucking wonder you wondering don't get tipped. In a matter of fact, fuck you. Get a degree and stop wasting your fucking crack head life.

>>678067742
The thing I loved about working at Papa John's was when people pour in the store, see that there is like 5 or 6 people in front of the and the insiders have phones glued to them taking an order a minute and the carry-outs bitch about timely orders when they can SEE how bad it is.
>tl;dr: fuck pizza, I don't ever want to work for hungry people again

>>678065356

1 +.5x =x
1 = .5x
X = 2

>>678068025
the machines they hand me when i hit % give me the option of 15,18 or 20

middle ground i guess.

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>>678067101
He's either trolling or a dreaming pizza boy.

15% is still the tipping standard for an actual restaurant. 20% for good service (which is what most people do because they suck at math and "shift the number right, then halve it, then add those together" is apparently something only NASA engineers can grasp).

But delivery? Nominal couple of bucks. Same for pretty much anything that's not a waiter -- delivery boys, cabbies, bell boys. In fact, if there is "boy"anywhere in your job description, it probably indicates you're not getting a percentage.

The one exception is bartenders. Bartenders could arguably use either method above, but they demand $1 per drink. Because bars are crowded, and they can ignore whoever they want and still be busy making the bar money all night long.

There are some edge cases -- you tip a doorman or handyman all at once at Christmas, which is supposed to be more of a gift. You tip furniture movers with lunch or a similar cost.

i tip drivers $2 unless the order is over 25 bucks

but ultimately about $2 for every $20 before tax

>>678068214

you do not make 170k, nor do you live in silicon valley, nor can you get a pizza delivered for a total of 10 dollars.

>>678068215
No seriously. I've seen some bad nights. People that are like aggressively hostile to you as you yell at your coworkers to get their shit together. I had this guy shouting at me over like one large cheese one time and it was literally the last order of the wall of death: friday night edition & it was even cooking and the guy's like 'so whats up ive been here for a half an hour and im like yeah when did you order?
>he says a half hour ago
>I say the wait was 35, your pizza will be done in 5
>oh look we're on time
>guy still shouts at me
>yes, that will make the pizza cook faster, yell at ME

>>678067067
nah keep driving it to me fuccboi

>>678065092
$1
assuming I bother tipping, more likely to tip if bitter cold or raining, but I useally don't tip,

tipping is BAD

>>678068373

anyone who thinks a couple bucks is correct for some who makes less than minimum wage and uses their own car and gas to get the pizza to you is literally retarded. they fall under the have never worked a day in their life category.

>>678068472

you tip the same as a black person -- not enough.

>>678068373
People have problems with tipping still? How 2 change decimals over 1 spot

>>678068566
Sigh. Ok. Whatever. I can get a fucking milk delivered to me here. You fucking idiot. A single milk.

>>678068214
>>678068566
dubs speak the truth.
more evidence you are a nigger. 170k a year and ordering from pizza hut? Get a fucking life and pull daddy's hand out of your ass. Most of us work for tips to get that degree, asshat. Ever consider that? Delivery drivers are a step above strippers in this world, only thing is that strippers make better money cuz people like you want to see mommy grind that pole for a few hours a week.

>>678068214
>cry to your boss because the customers suck
>no wonder you don't get tipped
>I don't want to drive to the pizza shop but ill tell the person doing me a favor they should be grateful for barely getting compensated for driving upwards up 10 miles in some cases to get a pizza to a fat neckbeard jew

Why would you come on here & ask a question like this faggot?.

>>678069007

> i can get not pizza delivered to me

cool story bro. that is not even an attempt to refute me.

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>>678067307
see >>678068373

The idea is:
1) Europe invented this first. It took a long time to take hold in the U.S. because some people find it degrading. (So fuck y'all.) It eventually caught on because waiters wanted it, because they used to make slave wages an NO tips.

2) if you're paid to deal with a customer and whatever they need, some people are going to end up making more work for you in a given amount of time than others. A tip is recognition that some suitcases are heavier, some tables have more dinners, and some fares are more out of your way than others.

3) Theoretically, you can tip all sorts of people... BUT REALLY, it's pretty much just waiters. Bartenders, taxi and peditaxi drivers, and delivery men come up less often, and while they'll be irritated you didn't tip, they probably won't say anything about it.

3) Waiters and security guards are some of the only jobs in the U.S. that you don't have to pay a minimum wage. (There's some handwavy theory about how an employer is supposed to track wages and tips and assure it's at least the equivalent of a minimum wage, but no one does that and all tips are essentially under the table.) Restaurants go under more than any other business, and have some pretty terrible margins. Most used to be family owned, and now most are franchises run by small business entrepreneurs. Many would fail if they had to directly pay a real wage and set prices accordingly. People in the U.S. seem to prefer reading a lower price on the menu and adding tip after. Not everyone tips, which means that richer diners are basically subsidizing poorer/cheaper ones.

>>678065092
tip me for being unemployed tho
or just go round tipping everyone
construction workers, CEO's, all that shit
pizza delivery, waiters - some of the easiest fucking jobs i can imagine

>>678069064
Lol. Guys who work in IT don't eat? Drink beer? Wtf are you on about? You think we dine in fancy restaurants all the time?? Wtf. Like I said before, 15% for and ok job is the norm here, and you have to be shooting bolts of lightning out of your ass if you think I would pay 10 bucks tip for a 10 bucks pizza. And yes for you idiots who have not been to Silicon Valley you can get ANYTHING delivered. A fucking 1$ toy car if you wish.

>>678068938

your currently bankable immediately applicable skillset is driving a pizza to my house... you earned that two bucks. use it to buy a soda and wash the salt off your tongue.

>>678069603

you cannot get a pizza delivered to you for 10 dollars.

>>678069074
Cry to customers for not tipping excessively. Not getting tipped. Next guy who delivers me shit I won't tip at all. Fuck you and fuck him.

>>678068938
> anyone who thinks a couple bucks is correct for some who makes less than minimum wage and uses their own car and gas to get the pizza to you is literally retarded

You can go drive for a company that actually covers expenses. You took a job with the word "boy" right in the title. Did you think this was a job meant for grown, rent-paying men? Because it's not. You're taking a job from some zit-faced kid whose yet to learn that the universe is in every way trying to grind him down to his constituent parts so they can be redistributed.

>>678069700

enjoy your cold pizza with my spit on it. and no, there will be absolutely no consequence, whether legal or business based, for me doing this.

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>>678069603
deliver my dick in your mouth

>>678069932
Cry me a river. I will stand by and play my worlds smallest violin for you.

Delivery drivers make shit. Dominos pays minimum wage while at the store and 3.50 while delivering. Since they're always delivering they're never making minimum wage. People who don't tip are assholes. Get off your ass and drive to the story you lazy cunt. I ate this bait, shit it out and refucking ate it. If you don't want to tip, then make restaurants pay min wage. Oh but wait, that means to keep their 600% markups they have to charge $20 for a pizza instead of $12 and your poor bitch ass can't afford that so they hope you take advantage of them so the drivers get mad at you instead of the company they work for.

>>678069886
this poisonous, entitled, niggerish attitude is stillbirthing america's future.

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Fuck you if you expect a tip.
First thing I do at a restaurant is ask if they charge service tax, or in anyway automatically put tips on bills.
If they do, I'm out.

Don't like it?
Study hard like the rest of us non socially leeching niggers, and get a real fucking job, where your feeble mind won't be persuaded that you have to have your salary paid by the customer and not by your boss.

>>678069716
Grubhub, thistle, munchery ,slice of anything from any place. Done.

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>>678070160
with my dick, nigger

>>678070379

> i will not tip for a job that exists only becaue of the tips
> not entitled

try again, kike

>>678070261
And no, I'm not a degenerate doing nothing with my life. I do it to pay the bills in between selling houses in real estate as its a new field for me and am not established yet.

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>>678070505

source?

> mfw no source incoming

>>678069886
I'm confused: do you think you can figure out who will tip before you get there (giving you time to fuck it up), or do you just fuck up a random number of deliveries anyway, then justify it after because they didn't tip you and your shitty service?

Because you can't tell me you remember who was cheap and who wasn't. I don't believe you're consistently employed enough to have a lot of repeats.

A tip is not a promise. It's a judgment. Lots of people at lots of places get great tips. Just not you.

Don't tip at all, they are getting payed to do that job anyway.

>>678070527
What's with you and dicks? You a nigger, son? Muh dicka! Pathetic.

>>678070261
>clearly dosent know shit.
If they dont meet min wage equivilent at the end of the fiscal year,the owners pay them the difference

Tips really dont matter,they still make minimum wage

>>678070480
I did study hard. I have a degree in biomed and molecular biology. Was offered a job at mass general (world leading hospital in Boston) in the worlds most reputable Alzheimer's lab and would have made 35k with no opportunity to move up. Yeah. It was worth the stress and time.

>>678070642
Why don't you put your brain cells to work there son. I'm typing on my fucking 6s iPhone here, this still isn't a multitasking powerhouse for copy pasting shit.

>>678065092
>be a shit head
>have a shit life
>get a shit job
>recieve shit wage
>have a shit boss
>restaurant with shit prices
>serve shit customers
>take their shit
>swallow their shit like a whore
>expect tip
>ONLY 20% WHAT THE FUK M8
>thats some shit right there im going to rub their steaks with smegma
>only recieve more than 80% of world population even without tips
>keep working shit job

>>678070673

do you really think all deliveries are for people who have never ordered before? all nontippers are literally written into the computer. when the person calls the person taking the order can see this as long as any driver. and any driver remembers the big tippers and the niggers (nontippers) without the computer record

>>678070770
You have to prove that you haven't made minimum wage throughout the year. The owners at my dominos refuse to provide the forms to do so. The attourney General is currently helping fight the case.

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>>678070952
>Why don't you put your dick to work there son. I'm typing on my fucking 6s dickPhone here, this still isn't a touchy uncle for heavy handed fathering shit.

I'll tip other people when people start tipping me for doing a job I am already getting a salary for.

And just to be clear, I will tip a maximum of 10% of whatever I get tipped.

Please be patient, while you wait for me to start getting tips.

>>678070952

i appreciate you proving me right. you cannot get a pizza delivered for 10 dollars.

>>678071121
>do you really think all deliveries are for people who have never ordered before?

No, not at all. I'm just going by your attitude and assuming that while people will call a place plenty of times, you're probably just not the one working there anymore.

>>678071314
Pff. Just sad. You know if you stop that crying and bitching, you might actually make something out of your life. Wipe the tears now.

>>678067787
>>678066093
>>678068276

I know the math behind it, but what gets me is if you see this in a store, everyone will say it's $1.50
Problem is you say "a game COSTS $1". So right there you're setting the price in people's heads.
"plus half it's price", so people go back to that $1 and take half of that.

Reword it as "A game's price is $1 plus half it's price." (makes no sense wtf why would you say "price" twice?) and it becomes clear it's a tricky sentence circlejerk-puzzle for autists.

>>678070927
And yet you still want a tip?

Let me guess...

American education, ammirite?

I started tipping $2 max a little while ago. Feels good to pay for my meal and not some bullshit attached extra tax because some asswipe said so. You get $2 for carrying a plate from there to here. More than enough.

>>678071121
>buy something online
>pay for item + servicing, tip not encluded
>wait 8-12 eons
>itshere.jpeg
>go outside
>tip the hobo living next to your porch
>tip the dogs for taking a shit on your lawn
>tip police officer for not arresting you today
>police officer tips you back for not being a nigger
>take package from delivery guy
>reach for wallet, gotta tip
>only have hundreds
>give 2 bills, tip fedora
>go inside, get on 4chan and complain that shits expensive in U.S.

>>678066302
Classic.

>>678071492
shame you only know what it is to want, and not actually need.
go beat your dick some more to your make believe 6S

>>678071346
Well when your employer starts paying you $3 an hour and forces you to rely on others for support I'm sure you'll be saying something different. Most people don't have jobs like this because they're idiots. It's a second job to them or their degrees are foreign and not recognized here. I work with someone who has an MBA in their country but it's not recognized here so they have to start over, which they are, but this is what they're stuck doing in the mean time.

5 Dollars normally(sometimes more if it's a cute driver, if I have a free pizza token from Papa Johns or Dominos I normally give the Driver what I would of normally paid for the pizza, also sometimes smoke them up if they comment on the pleasing order wafting from out my front door, no reason to punish them because the wage system is broken

>>678071498
I mean I guess only a store trying to rip an autist off would do that

>>678071265
They have to keep accounting info....

If they refuse take them to court.

>>678071390

at our store there is a large number of people within the delivery area so the manager is very good to the drivers by blacklisting nontippers who complain about the ramifications they receive for not tipping.

it is also the highest priced and best quality pizzas in the area. after blacklisted the manager only allows you to order with a credit card and with a minimum pre-tip before they will deliver to you again. call from these types of people are also recorded,m because one guy tried to call the credit card company and dispute the charge.

>>678071691
You don't anything delivered by a real delivery service. Just pizza boys.

>>678071380
Don't get hung up for the ten bucks. Let's say accurate would be 17 bucks. I give around 15% which comes up to 2.5 bucks. Anyway you get my point. If you don't, then you don't. Like I said before, 15% ok, 20% good, 5-10% how bad you fucked up. Spit in pizza 0%. I'm guessing you are intelligent enough to see what the whole discussion is about.

>>678071951
>If they refuse take them to court.
That's the point where many people find themselves.

Funny enough, courts also have costs that are hard for the underemployed to pay....

>>678065356
Fuck you and your shitty mind games !!!!!

>>678071612
I couldn't care less if I got a tip. I'd rather make minimum wage than get a tip and rely on people to pay extra when they shouldn't have too. I'd love to work somewhere where there is a steady minimum wage but they don't accommodate the hours of my real estate job so I'm stuck doing this shit for now.

>>678071986
>5-10% how bad you fucked up. Spit in pizza 0%.
No, no, no: fuckups get 0%. Spit gets me driving to the store to get the douche fired.

>>678071951
And pay thousands in court fees? Sounds like you're oblivious to how this works. They are not required to track any of your tips. When there is cash involved you can't prove what you have and what you don't have since there is no trail. It becomes a game if he says she says

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>>678072363

you will be trespassed for being a nontipper if you attempted that. possibly also catch an assault charge for any treating behavior you try at the store. i've seen it three times before.

>>678071876
>Wait till my employer pays.me 3$ an hour?
Wtf?
Even if for some extreme bad luck I ever need to go on unemployment, I'll be getting roughly £38 an hour.

Pick up a book, study it. Repeat. Get good. Get paid. Stop blaming others for your shit tier business attitude.

I usually tip 25% for delivery food, 15% if eating in the place. Bare minimum of $2.50 tho, and I'll usually tip higher if I ordered a lot.

Like I'll tip $3 for a $11 pizza, but if I order like $60 worth of shit with friends I'll tip like $20.

>>678072168
Small claims court,you wont even need a lawyer,just documentaion,and affidavits from your co-workers.

>>678072363
The fact is that with minimum wage on South Bay Area you won't be able to live here. A shitty 1 bedrooms rent is almost 2k a month. So most low income people commute in this horrible traffic for 3h a day to do the minimum wage job. So I usually always leave a tip, even for a cold served meal. I'm not heartless. Lol.

I recently stopped tipping above $2. That's the max you get for carrying food from point A to point B and it's plenty generous considering what you have to do.

If I'm traveling on business and eating alone? No tip. Never coming back to this restaurant? No tip. Mediocre or shitty service? No tip.

Feels good to pay for what you received and not have to make up for the other guy's cheap boss/shitty decisions.

>>678065092

Instead of tipping the pizza guy, I make up an excuse about not having enough money to tip him but then offer to suck his cock instead.

This usually sends the pizza guy running, saving me the tip money, or, I actually get to suck the guy off and I still save my money.

Either way it's a win win situation for me.

>>678072571
First, I'm not sure where you learned that form of the verb "trespass", but that's not how it works. Second, you can't be charged for assault or trespassing for coming in to report about someone violating health code.

>>678072679
Like I said, I have a degree. However that degree pays shit until you have a phd. Unemployment for me would be 17k a year due to the fact that I am 22 and have not had a high paying job due to the fact that I've been in school my whole life. Still in school so I can get a good job. Going for an iMBA in finance. You're from Europe where people actually pay livable wages, even do those who work I food. Here in America the food industry is only required to pay 3.50 an hour because tips are expected, not just a reward for good work. It's the most fucked up system and I wish it worked differently, but you know...American greed and all. That's why I'm going to school to learn to control corporate greed.

>>678065092
I'd shoot for 60 dollars

>>678072534
B-b-but I think I feel that you should give ME money because YOU make more money than me..
Isn't it obvious that it is unfair for others to get better salaries, just because they studied harder than me?

So, tip me. You owe me.

>>678065092
Demand seppuku

>>678073304
It's not working very well in Europe either. People get paid the same if they did a good job or not. And the wait is usually horrible as there's too few waitresses around. It's the customer who suffers in Europe, but hey, at least you get paid. Who's the egotistical shithead now?

>>678072982

you have never heard of the word trespassed? are you retarded?

any threatening behavior can be turned into an assault charge. it is very simple

> you walk in
> your thighs scraping each other
> the i love anime shirt is stained
> you smell of bo and hand lotion
> you start screeching about your pizza
> you lunge, maybe accidentally when you trip over your sandals

boom, that can be an assault charge.

>>678073378
In fairness, there seem to be a lot of bay area folks here, and homeless people there were using the phrase "you owe us" seriously even before the city was conquered by internet and new media douchebags. You hear it enough, you start to accept it.

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>>678065092
If your neighbor is a berniecuck. Go ahead and order it
When the driver gets there tell him that your neighbor will cover whatever you are short. He can't deny you. He owes you. You have a right to eat and if he has money he should give you some. That's his fuhrer's mantra. See socialism works.

>>678065092
$5 is enough unless its some fancy restaurant

>>678073304
>I chose a degree which pays shit
>I chose to work in a low wage job.
>therefore the world needs to pay me for making poor decisions.

Go eat Smegma

>>678065092
was the pizza 100$ no? fuck off! you're getting 10%, and you're going to fucking like it, nigger.

>>678065668
You're an idiot

>>678074194
this is you, silicon valley faggot

>>678073666
Get paid like shit because of how few people tip because they don't think it's necessary. Let me work for 5 hours and earn $28 (this includes my hourly wage and tips from yesterday btw). Doing this 4 times a week while working another job so I can actually have a career, but wait, I'm 22 and get paid a shit salary anyway that I still can't live off of. Oh yeah, and pay 25k a year to go to school on top of the 60k I have in loans to get my bachelors education. Hm...but you can't get hired anywhere because you don't have experience, but yet you can't get experience without a degree, but they won't hire you without experience...wow this system makes sense.

>>678073704
"trespass" is the act of coming unbidden onto private property, or to curtilage contrary to posted warnings. Unless you do something to make them feel unsafe, a public business during store hours or whenever is reasonable given a prior business relationship will never be trespassing.

Second, "to trespass" is to commit a act of trespass. The one who trespasses is a trespassers. Trespassers are those who are trespassing, or have trespassed. Trespassers may be prosecuted. It is grammatically impossible "to trespassing anything", much less a person. It is just not that kind of verb.

And assault requires a threat, such as but not limited to brandishing a weapon, making verbal threats, physical contact. At no point is coming in to report a driver's violation of numerous laws any of those. And if I'm ever in your store and you feel it is, please call the cops, because you're just going to save me the trouble.

>>678065092
It's about $10 too much

I actually enjoy it when waiters pause a tiny bit when they give me the change, expecting me to leave something for them.

I smile at them, say have a nice day, while putting all the change in my wallet.

Yes, your poorness entertains me.

>>678073744
Yeah . I don't really like this Bay Area. South Bay especially. Expensive as shit even with my salary. Full of Indians and Asians. Paying now around 3500 a month for this place, people going door to door trying to get money for "their education". Then when you say no I'm not handing out free money they get pissed. Usually at that time I just tell them to get the fuck off my lawn. One good side in this is that the police average time to be anywhere in this area is 2 minutes, crime is super low. However it's good to check your firearms from time to time.

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>>678074578

so confirmed, you are literally retarded.

the scenario laid out could be seen as assault, given the lunge. try harder retard.

>>678065092
For 10 i'll buy a pizza and a beer

>>678074480
You're dreaming if you think there is a working system somewhere in the world. But if what you mean by the working system is that it works for YOU, then it's a different matter, but your no better than anyone else with an opinion.

>>678067708
Well not my problem if your negroid boss can't pay you fairly? dafuq youre asking me for? Its your fucking job if you dont like it or you do.
Also why does a delivery guy get tipped but for example a postman dosen't?

>>678074878
"given the lunge"

Yeah, anything described truthfully as a lunge could. But nobody actually lunges. Especially not because of some retarded sandal scenario. Why don't you just say, "and then you accidentally kill one of my coworkers, possibly because you mistook her for one of our surprisingly large roaches. Boom! That's murder and you're going to jail." That scenario is roughly as plausible as the one you outline. Stop trying to act internet tough.

>>678074965
No system is ever set up to help people in the long run or else how would it produce money to continue the program? The whole point of systems are to keep people repressed and to get caught up in affording the little things in life so the big picture is missed. people think they need to repress others so that the cycle appears on every level of the social pyramid. The only people who understand it are those at the top and those at the bottom who aren't ignorant. The people in the middle are just trying to keep the cycle going with complete ignorance to what's going on.

>>678075790
Yes? Isn't that what i told you? There is no perfect system in this planet. This is how it is done. The whole money system is rigged. However by studying and advancing you will get closer to the top, but you are standing on more unfortunate people. That is life now. You want to change it? Good luck.

>>678075790
>No system is ever set up to help people in the long run or else how would it produce money to continue the program? The whole point of systems are to keep people repressed and to get caught up in affording the little things in life

That is not and never has been true. If anything, that is a rosy scenario where some deliberate evil choice has been made and your suffering is proof that someone else is benefiting, and maybe even that there's some fair system out there where we're all happy. That's just not the case. None of us know what the fuck we're doing, and even if we did we would probably still be fucked.

The fact is there's never a conspiracy. There's a network of casual, loosely related violence. But one wants to curse about how "the economic realities of a 7 billion person heavily networked world" done them wrong. They want to believe that "the man" done them wrong.

$1 is too much of a tip. I'm not giving away money to some fuccboi ass teenager for doing his job. Maybe if the total is $9.50 I'd give them a $10 and say "keep the change" but other than that they don't get shit from me.

Also, saying "plus tip" is a fool proof way to get literally 0 cents of a tip from me. I will count out 67 cents in change if I have to, you entitled fucks don't get shit. Kill yourself or get a better job

>>678076146
It's people like you who are sour towards having to work your way up and not helping others get there that keeps the system in place. I'm not asking for handouts. I'm asking for a livable wage with the degree I paid the government 60k for and am paying another 50k for an MBA. But that can't happen. But if I don't do go into debt then I'm stuck delivering pizzas my whole life and have no shot at bettering myself and community. It doesn't take a lot to make a big difference

>>678076651
No. That's completely wrong. Don't blame me for your choices. And don't blame me if I don't give out ridiculous tips. I give out money for charity every year, to veterans mainly. However I won't pay for your education. I won't pay for your tv. I won't pay for your stuff. You need to work for it and whatever choices you have made in your life have brought you to that point and I'm in mine. I don't owe you anything.

>>678076388
Im currently studying for an iMBA in finance. What I am being trained on is designing management and financial systems that literally do not provide living wages at the most basic levels for maximum profit. I'm learning how to target people who are most desperate for work and will settle for the wages paid. I'm literally being trained in suppressesing people. But you know, companies don't do that.

>>678077248
I don't have any stuff for you to pay for because I can't afford it and won't go into debt for it, except for school because educating yourself if so important. If I wanted handouts I'd be on unemployment getting free housing, utilities, food stamps because as a student I'm legally allowed to do that. But instead of being part of the problem, I'm working two jobs for my education and trying to support myself and not rely on the broken system. So actually, I'm saving you money by not doing what a legal student can do and getting free EVERYTHING because it's less taxes you would have to pay. It's unbelievable to me that you want to give me shit for working as hard as I am and asking a decent wage for it. I'm not asking for 40k a year to deliver pizzas. I'm asking for min wage, and it's seriously that big of a deal apparently.

>>678077534
Of course they do. That's why companies lay people off when they are only doing OK and pay huge bonuses to upper management. I worked my whole life after 15, still in some school debt but I'm paying it out. Soon I'm in the clear and can just start living. The whole system works by having people who don't make as much. Otherwise everything would be expensive as shit if everyone had the same salaries. Your computer is made in Asia, for their minimum wage and it's not much what they earn. They are made there because it's cheap and people in countries like ours can buy that stuff. Everyone can here. Buying an iPhone in China is a fucking status of "I'm rich" or a hooker, usually decided by gender. Would you pay 10k for a basic computer made in USA by workers making 30 bucks an hour? Your actual buying power will go to shit.

>>678078499
It is. Take the handouts if you want. You do know that it's more profitable to tax the lower income / middle income people than higher income people? And now I'm talking just reasonably high. Why? Takki 20k in taxes from 30k households is a lot less than taking 500 from 50 million households. So basically you will be taking handouts from your future self.

>>678078684
Being pissed at the system doesn't get you anywhere. Learn to work the system.

>>678078684
Manufacturing only costs more here because of competion elsewhere. Countries like China are actually so smart it's scary. China owns more than double of any other countries share of US debt. China alone could bankrupt the US at any point in time. This is one reason why their stock market crashing was so scary. If they cashed in on us we would have went inter as would the global economy. They literally have a monopoly over half of the industrialized economies. Due to this they are actually rapidly growing their economy. This is a huge reason as to why they are a BRIC superpower. We are forcing so much debt on people to live that's it's going to be our collapse and instead of addressing it and spreading the 1% wealth, we put down the other 99% to keep the system as it is.

>>678079267
That's what I'm going to school for haha

>>678079874
Exactly. However China's economy is spiraling now. I've been to cities that are like ghost towns. My point is that for you to get something like consumer electronics relatively cheaply, you have to exploit the system. That's how it works and that's how it will work with the current monetary system, unless it is significantly changed. But changing a global system when everybody owes everybody is a sure way to start ww3.

>>678079110
I understand how it works. That's why microtheft is more common now. If someone steals 50 cents from 2 million bank accounts then no one will notice and you just made a million rather than stealing 2 million from one source directly. It's not a hard concept. Thankfully there are people like Elon musk who are willing to put their investments in government failures for the better of people instead of themselves (while still allowing themselves living expenses)

>>678067708

>people who want to give you a better experience
>people who want to take as much of your money as possible
ftfy
>all you care about is your own goddamn self
says the shitbrain who's bitching at people to pay him more money

>>678080289
Honestly I think that's what we need.

>>678069074
It's not like the delivery guy is providing an extra service and goes out of his way to deliver, it's part of the job he's paid to do

>>678079874
Not that guy but holy fuck im amazded that a single post can contain so much inaccuracy and misunderstanding of global economics in one post. You dont seem like a dumb guy but its pretty obvious everything you "learned" about economics is from the internet

>>678080579
EXACTLY THIS

Maybe this has already been said here, but can we be fucking real about this shit? Pizza delivery is standard, it is not some "extra" or "special" service that they do only for some people. They deliver to anybody, it's just part of their business.

Not to mention the fact that most pizza places automatically add on a fucking delivery fee to your bill now anyway. WHY THE FUCK WOULD I PAY YOU A TIP FOR DELIVERING WHEN NOT ONLY ARE YOU GETTING PAID FOR DOING YOUR GODDAMN JOB ALREADY, BUT YOUR FAGGOT EMPLOYER IS CHARGING ME EXTRA TO HAVE IT DELIVERED TO ME ALREADY

I hate delivery faggots who bitch about small tips. I hate them so fucking much. They are the shittiest kind of good-for-nothing, lazy, handout-wanting, welfare-loving pieces of shit.

>>678067067
You will be the bitch whining when you get fired cause they going out of business. If you take a bitch job expect to be treated like a bitch, that's what you are.

>>678065356
Is this supposed to be ba repeating function? If yes, infinite.

>worked as a pizza delivery boy for 2 years
>not once did I expect a tip as I was working for minimum wage and therefor making enough to live

Don't tip the pizza delivery guy, we didn't need that shit

>>678081189
Because the delivery tip doesn't go to the driver, it goes to our employer, jackass.

>>678081060
Nope. I get my info from scholarly resources and derive conclusions from it. Ive gotten all As in my global economics classes and currently have a 3.94 (fucking A- ruined it -___-). I'm not an idiot, I know how to do research. My first degree is biomed and molecular biology. I'm not a fucktard like most 4channers. I work hard for what and where I am. I'm just trying to prove all of the fucks who are trying to keep the system instead of fix it. Not that any of this shit matters. I'll never meet you and it won't matter tomorrow and you'll never know if I'm telling the truth, but my opinions (because that's all they are) are not drawn from some utopian cloud in the sky.

>>678081189
You do realize that tip doesn't go to the driver right? It goes to the owners.

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>>678081579
holy sweet goddamn are you shitting me? do you honestly think I give a flying fuck if your faggot employer keeps the money that I am charged for you to deliver it? that's like when people tell you you need to tip waitresses because their employers pay them shit.

THAT'S NOT MY FUCKING PROBLEM YOU MASSIVE DUMBASS

if your employer keeps the delivery charge and YOU'RE the one delivering the pizza, take it up with them you fucking waste of oxygen

>>678081540
You worked for one of the good ones. My owners pay 3.50 during deliveries and the hours is rounded so as long as you do one deliver per hour you make 3.50 for the entire hour even if you get no tips and are at the store for all but 5 minutes of that hour.

>>678081579
>>678082387

It's not even a tip because it's mandatory. It's a service charge. You then tip the driver. If you wana get fancy tip them 10-15% without the delivery cost.

>>678082194
that's not my problem, dipshit. if their employer is keeping money that should rightfully go to them, I can't do a goddamn thing about it. I'm just supposed to pay them extra because their employer is an asshole? get the fuck out.

1$ tip is more than acceptable, might as well bought another fucking pizza with the 5-10$ you just gave the lowesy fuck

>>678082531
>It's not even a tip because it's mandatory. It's a service charge. You then tip the driver.
Why the fuck would I tip the driver when I am already paying for his service?

Seriously, just why? Do you retards ever actually as yourselves that question?

>>678082774
*ask

>>678082387
Your life must really suck to be so malicious like that. You should try and be happier instead of this macho complex you're throwing around to make yourself look better.

>>678082939
>macho complex
wtf are you talking about, do you even know what those words mean because they don't apply to this situation whatsoever

but obviously you aren't going to argue my actual point since you know I'm right, you're just going to distract from the issue by attacking my character. classic.

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People who don't pick up their own pizza and complain about deciding wether to tip the delivery guy are literally the worst pieces of shit in the world.

Seriously go pick up your pizza. It's always cheaper to pick up since every pizza place has plenty of carry out specials.

Ignorance is bliss my friend

>>678082774

Because until the industry realizes we can't actually rely on the charity of jocks/dicks like you see in this thread, you probably should. Imagine if the hardest part of your job ended up paying you half of what you normally get because "Well you have to work for tips now!". It's not like any delivery drivers gunna get pissed with a 3 dollar tip, cause if they work at Dominos their usual income is 7.25, brought down to 4.25 when they deliver. You don't have to tip us some crazy amount and smart ones generally don't EXPECT a tip but a 3 dollar tip means we'll atleast remember you took care of us and we won't deliver a cold pizza.

>>678083228
Exactly. If I have to choose between a customer who I know tips and one that doesn't, guess who's getting the cold pizza?

>>678083198
this tbh fam

Delivery is a Jewish conspiracy, carry out is the only way to get pizza since it's always ready in 15min and you don't have to wait an hour for cold pizza.

>>678067307
I declare what the computer estimates, which is like 30% of what I actually get

>>678083228
>Because until the industry realizes we can't actually rely on the charity of jocks/dicks like you see in this thread, you probably should.
>"I choose to work at this job of my own free will but I don't like how much they pay me so YOU should pay me extra or else you're an asshole"

>Imagine if the hardest part of your job ended up paying you half of what you normally get
>the hardest part of your job
>hard
Driving is part of my job, I do it every damn day and it's by far the easiest part because it's just driving a goddamn car, oh and I don't get tipped for it

>but a 3 dollar tip means we'll atleast remember you took care of us and we won't deliver a cold pizza.
that's called blackmail, you dumb piece of shit

>>678068868
Fuck you, Richard Orchard that lives on Kenosha and orders a small shrimp pizza with extra chz

Take a fucking shower sometime you sperg fuck

I tip 15%-20%. It isn't a set value.

>>678083198
>go pick up pizza
>become friends with owner of small pizza joint
>dude gives me free wings sometimes
>don't even care if they're old wings

Pizza pick up is literally the only way to get pizza.

>>678065092
I worked delivering pizzas in Australia, I got Paid $17.51 an hour + $2.50 per delivery
Tips are rare but a nice bonus

Must suck to live in America, where you have no idea how much you will actually earn in a night

>>678084071

Yeah, funny thing is, is if you choose to be a dick to the guy handling the food you're going to consume we'll do the same thing and be dicks right back. Funny how that works isn't it?

Yes, it is the hardest part. If we get into a traffic accident because of bad drivers on the road, that's on us to fix. Don't be an idiot and try and blame us for bad industry practices like not paying people properly because "charity", kid.

>>678074501
It's always bugged me that the black community hasn't been more supportive of LeVar.

He is one of the best black role models I can think of. He promoted education and reading, played a very influential role in Roots as Kunta Kinte, and played a very articulate and educated engineer in Star Trek.

But niggers care more about twerking and rap. LeVar is just an uncle tom to them. Because education and being smart aren't what they value at all.

>>678065092
I usually just give them like 3-4$. The pizza places already charge me for delivery. Its enough when I buy a 12$ pizza from Dominos, the delivery charge is ~4$ and I'll usually just round it up to 20.

>>678068276
cost = $1 + (.5*price)
price = $1
cost = $1 + (.5*$1)
cost = $1 + ($0.5)
cost = $1.5

>How much does it COST?

>>678084834
Place I work at doesn't have delivery charge, so I normally get larger tips

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>>678065092
>CURRENT YEAR
>Tipping
Kek

>>678084607
>Yeah, funny thing is, is if you choose to be a dick to the guy handling the food you're going to consume we'll do the same thing and be dicks right back. Funny how that works isn't it?
Yet again you're implying that not giving you extra money for no fucking reason at all is "being a dick"

>Yes, it is the hardest part. If we get into a traffic accident because of bad drivers on the road, that's on us to fix
The whole tipping debate aside, the fact that you are honestly trying to argue that driving is a difficult part of your job makes it painfully obvious how legitimately stupid you are.

> Don't be an idiot and try and blame us for bad industry practices

>that is literally exactly what you're doing by putting the responsibility on the customer to pay you more when in reality it is your employers responsibility

You're seriously retarded, dude. Like not even just as an insult, I really mean it. It's no surprise that you deliver pizzas for a living.

>>678065758
Good rule

>>678084834
>>678084834
>almost $20 for one pizza
>carry out pizza is $8-12 depending on how much toppings I want
>don't have to even consider tipping

Why do you faggots complain about delivery guys and tipping when you can easily pick up your pizza?

>>678068276
where did x go? lol

>>678083198
Sauce

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>>678067067
LOL little bitch boi thinks he's worth something.

I delivered for a busy Papa John's in a fairly big city for four years, and this thread is making me crack up. The only people who didn't tip were people who lived in either the literal government housing ghetto, or in the redneck trailer parks. If you don't tip, WE KNOW BEFOREHAND. It's recorded in the caller ID next to your number. Ghetto people are gonna ghetto, so we don't fuck with them, but when the phone rings and "VIRGIN FATASS NO TIP" pops up we'll put your ass on hold for 15 min and fuck with your food. No sick days, guess who's coughing into your wings.

>>678067787
you randomly dropped a "price"
>bad math

>>678085325

When you're ready to have a discussion and not resort to preteen insults, then you should post again.

>>678065092
It's more than enough. That's fuckin rich people talk. Ten dollar tippers were always in giant houses.

Delivery guy here. Ive gotten a handful of $10 tips in my time. I make $8 an hour plus $2 dc for every deliver and then whatever in tips. For me its more about the fact that someone tips me than what they gave me. $2 is pretty much fine for the average delivery

>>678086068
>When you're ready to have a discussion and not resort to preteen insults, then you should post again.

I'm going to go ahead and assume you were talking to yourself since you have very obviously been the one contributing absolutely nothing intelligent to the discussion.

You are seriously unbelievable. I hope you're just a dumb teenager.

Good luck with your life, you're obviously going to need it.

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>>678086068
Nigga what? Not even that guy, but you sound like a ducking teenager mad because someone only gave him $5 and think that you deserve everything because you deliver pizzas. Something a trained fucking monkey can do. Holy shit you're delusional. 7/10 if troll.

>>678086759
I second this

>>678086734
> Work at IBM as independent contractor as I help them make their training programs for 15$ an hour

>Sometimes they don't have work, so I do a weekend job at Dominos.

Oh? I feel like I'm doing fine. Nice try though!

>678086898
Sounds like rhetoric coming from a person who's never actually had the job and thinks they can have a 100% accurate opinion. Expected out of 10.

>>678086068
i just read your entire convo and you are legit retarded buddy. i honestly cant believe how stupid you are

>>678087368

You're "legit retarded" if you can't believe others have differing principles and different ideas. Honestly. =).

>>678065092
depends. was it delivery? and how much was the bill otherwise?

I always tip delivery guys a bit more than expected

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>>678087256
HOLY SHIT THE BACK PEDALING. So, now all of a sudden you work at IBM but you moonlight as a pizza delivery guy and get butt blasted by a few bucks in tips? Sorry new score is 0/10, try again next time.

>>678087256
You just made yourself look EVEN MORE idiotic than you already did.
Do you honestly expect anybody to believe that you are an independent contractor who makes 15 dollars an hour, but sometimes also delivers pizzas at Domino's for minimum wage? If you had computer/tech skills and experience, you would easily be able to find a different "side job" than delivering pizzas.

So, either you're a shitty liar because your story sounds like obvious bullshit, or it's true in which case you're a complete dumbass.