>economically illiterate people

This is why.

Historical Literacy, we see nations that make an effort to remove corruption, and add socialism prosper in the past. It works.

>>677761277
I dont know lets ask a bunch of kids and like three grown ups

Good place to start I guess

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>>677761454
>677761454
Found one.

>>677761277
Shill detected

Well the economic standard most Republicans are pushing has practically driven the economy to the ground and contributed to the housing collapse

On the other side many other countries that adopted democratic socialism early on are doing pretty well for the majority of their populations

Also I'd like to point out democratic socialism isn't an economic system. It's more like a certain type of tax system since it doesn't influence the economy whatsoever and only changes what the tax money is spent on

Lots of people are retarded when it comes to politics/the economy and hear "free stuff" so they support him, not realizing the downsides of giving away "free stuff". Bernie and other democrats know this and abuse it for free votes

Because people are fucking retarded. Entitled. Not properly disciplined. Easily offended.

My generation are a bunch of homos, but call us homos and we get mad.
>inb4 Bill Clinton was a great president

>>677761277
so who would u vote for

>>677761913
>Clinton
>1992 AWB
Keep dreaming, cuck.

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>>677761277
you answered your own question

>>677761913
very sensitive gay men run rampant

Take a dick but not a joke


I mean really

>>677761832
>tax system
>doesn't influence economy
this is why you Bernie fans are seen as economically retarded, I bet you give a dollar to every sob story every nigger has ever told you too

>>677761277
Because the middle class wants to stay that way and social services need to be more streamlined.

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>>677761832
>only changes what the tax money is spent on (and raises taxes)
>doesn't change the economy whatsoever

>>677761277
I don't care about most of his "free" bullshit, but our current healthcare spending trends are 100% unsustainable. We spend almost 20 god damn percent of our entire GDP on healthcare.

A single payer system would drastically lower the prices of all healthcare through monopolistic price "negotiation."

On top of all that if you actually look at how much your taxes would go up (around 3.5k annually if you are making 50k) you personally would save money compared to current insurance costs.

To top it all off, single-payer insurance would free small businesses from being obligated to provide insanely expensive benefits to their employers to subsidize the bloated insurance industry.

Literally ever member of society benefits from this system except insurance providers and really... fuck them.

>>677761277
Legal weed

>>677762035
I posted that and I'm on your side. Bill Clinton was a fucking disaster. Liberals think he was God tho because he had a "surplus"
>borrow from social security
>create surplus
>borrow from Peter to pay Paul
>Peter is broke as fuck
>Paul is now broke as fuck

Being completely uneducated and having no beilief system is just the best

I mean you guys care about stuff and things


I mean you are all fucked up

>>677761832
>" many other countries that adopted democratic socialism early on are doing pretty well"

I hear Venezuela has not only run out of Toilet paper for the most part, but now water, clean... drinkable water is now running short and getting rationed.....

Yep. Really working for them.

>>677761845
I still don't understand why you'd vote against your economic interests. Did you not read the Panama Paper scandal? The rich evade their taxes and push the cost of sustaining the economy onto the lower classes; they complain about the average person mooching when it's them who are mooching.

>>677761277
He's getting Jew sympathy votes from kids who just learned about the holocaust 3 years ago

>>677762168
What the fuck am i reading

>>677761832
>democratic socialism isn't an economic system

ah, that makes, because the vast majority of economics texts claim that capitalism is the best of all alternatives and that countries that once identified their economic systems as mostly socialist have transitioned to systems that more closely resemble capitalism.

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>>677761277

Because his ideas work in every other country but the US is too stupid to advance byond the mid 20th century

>universal health care dosnt work
>says the only first world nation without it

Shitty Americans can't run a country, you have the highest wealth but your infastructure is crumbling because you can't fathom using your wealth to help your people or maintain your infastructure.

The US is also behind on gay marrige and abortion but that's because the US us a theocracy like the middle east.

Anyway Im not going to stick around to read replies, reply all you want I won't be around to read them, life's too short to spend it listening yo Ameritards blubbering about topics they don't know as the US education system is also trash just like their entire country.

I want trump to win just to see him destroy whats left of a once proud and amazing USA.

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>>677761832
fuck dude
you are so stupid you should just kill yourself
i mean that in the nicest way possible

>>677762170
>socialism can't sustain economy
>Nestle
>Lego
>IKEA
>MineCraft

>>677761277
Why does voting for Bernie Sanders make you "economically illiterate"? Honestly curious as to why you think that.

>>677762111
>>677762170
Idk if you fuckboys realize this but there has been taxes since the conception of the United States and guess what, taxes basically get increased every year

>>677762283
The US Also has water problems in many places abs a crumbling septic and highway system.

Also you ignore every other country where democratic socialism works, but picking and choosing is what you Ameritards are best at.

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>>677762281
this.

>thinking your opinion matters
>thinking any of the candidates will actually do 1/2 the shit they promise after elected
>thinking your life will be completely altered if one candidate prevails over another

>>677762249
This is true. I'm getting fucked by ACA non-compliance. I got hit for more than $1000 in tax.

>>677761832
>tax system
>not an economical system
This if what been victims actually legitimately think. Some human being sat down, typed this shit up, looked over it afterwards and said " yep, that should do it"
>retard

>>677762431
I want Trump to win because as a hpd cadet I want my suit of t60 and a blank check on what to do when faced with "Unamerican Activities".

>>677762553
you guys believe you know stuff

I guess thats real


Me personally

I dont know shit
seems like yall dont neither

>>677762553
what are you even saying / reply to m80?

>>677762640
because you're talking to the autists from /r/The_Donald.

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>>677761277

Because he is respectful of all humans, he wants to help people, he's going to be president and are they going to like him? No, but it's going to be a tough job for all of us to start working together.

>>677761277
Probably because a lot of his votes are from faggots wanting his whole minimum-wage-raising thing.

>>677762712
*bern victims , damn auto correct

>>677762648
>thinks taxes don't affect economy
>lectures others on economics

i'd just quit now if i was you lad.

>>677761277
You do realise that there are serious, actual economists aplenty that support his platforms and that the only people who go on about how it is non-viable are mouth breathing 14-yr-old libertarian autists, right? But OF COURSE you knew that, clever boy.

>>677761277
Idk everything he says sounds too good to be true bro

>>677762648
Dude, fuck, just stop mane its late if I keep laughing my roomies are gonna wake

>>677761277
There will always be more retards than educated people. And the retards are easily swayed by "muh free stuff"

Don't worry, they'll get pacified when emperor trump gets into office and puts the boot on their necks.

>>677762648
the conception of the US was because of overtaxing by the Brits.

claiming taxes don't affect the economy is nonsensical bullshit.

>hurr durr taxes have always existed that means any tax is A-OK

>>677761277
>SHILLING THIS HARD

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>>677762922
And 80% of Dems still voting for Hillary

>>677762922
Mouth breathers

If I had magic powers Id clog noses and niff farts all by myself

I swear

>>677763145
she just saw my dick


Bitches gone no

>>677762850
I'm not saying taxes don't affect the economy

But look at any country, and guess what, they all have fucking taxes
Whether those countries are full blown communist countries like China or Vietnam to Native American Reserves having fucking taxes. Not just that but in the US they have been going up for years on end

Use your brain to think instead of shitpost

>>677761277

I understand that what's beneficial for the poor and weak is beneficial for everyone.

>>677762922
The same ones who are bankrolled by govt to tell people that inflating prices and crashing the economy so the rich get richer and the poor get poorer. I'm not a bernifag, but jesus. Learn 2 fucking economics.

>>677763046
Are you retarded
"Taxation without representation"
Drilled in the heads of anyone who actually attended school

The US didn't revolt due to overtaxing they did it due to having no say in their government and still getting taxed.

>>677763537
Actually overtaxing was also part of the problem because the Brits were taxing the hell out of all the goods even though a lot of the raw materials were in the colonies. They were pissed that the taxes were high and that they had no one in Parliament to negotiate for lower taxes.

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>>677762640
because bernie is economically illiterate.

and also
>muh free stuff

I'll explain it nice and simple for Berniefags; what you're actually doing by raising taxes and public spending is increasing the size of government, giving them more power and eventually placing them in the middle of interactions where they have no right to be.
Governments tend towards corruption, bureaucracy and mediocrity, it's just their nature. And it's the people who pay the price, literally and figuratively.

When an angry black chick proclaims she wants her gender studies course to be free, what she's actually saying is 'I want everyone else to pay for me to go to college'.

>>677761832
It was Bill who redacted banking regulation that lead to the collapse, though he is essentially a moderate republican not a Democrat. The spectrum shifted to the right after Reagan.

>>677763297
the person i was replying to in the first place did in fact say taxes don't affect the economy.

also

>every country has taxes
>that means every tax must be just and fair

not sure what kind of logical leap you've made here tbqh

>>677763842
But even after becoming a sovereign nation, there were still taxes in many states for selling across state lines and across seas, it did piss off a few people but those weren't the main concerns nor did it lead to the US failing

>>677762249
If we lowered our obesity, then we would spend a lot less on healthcare. The fat cows are literally eating our money away.

>>677764330
lmaooooo

>>677764252
no one was revolting against the IDEA of taxes, it was SPECIFIC taxes.

just like bernie's taxes might be worse than, say, trump's taxes.

no one is saying all tax is wrong and bad.

>>677764245
You can't track where all your tax money goes to determine if it's a fair tax or not since it literally runs the country, without taxes the countries devolve into anarchy since there isn't anything to hold them together

>>677761277
He's not going to abuse his power for the benefit of business like Donald Trump and he isn't a retard like Hilary.

>>677761277
fun fact 234134: many stock brookers support bernie because he plans on reasing the min wage, aka people have more money to spend on biz, which will cause the stock to raise. (very short version)

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>>677764675
who is saying there should be no taxes??

>>677764739
Top fucking kek

>>677764572
But Trump for the most part IS raising taxes, except if your poor
But he has no plan with what to do with those taxes

I'd rather have my taxes go to fund a shift into single layer that will drive the cost of healthcare down in few years time and college education instead of getting taxed for nothing

>>677764739
He's not going to have any power in the first place. Not a single current Senator supports him. They'll block him faster than Jamaal did to you when he fucked your wife

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>>677764330
totally underrated post. Stopping problems before they start is of immeasurable economic value and the last 30 years have been nothing but
>garbage food
>education debt
>lowered value of public services
>massive corporate expansion

If you spend the money on structural essentials you are investing in the stability of the future. But really people just want free stuff so fuck them.

>>677764926
>lowest tax rate since pre-WW2
>'raising taxes'

nope.

>>677762488
no mate you are the one being retarded read a economic book. by giving money to the people (raising min wage + making jobs in the uneducated workforce meaning aoutobahn restoration) the people now have money to spend there by improving american biz and stocks

>Millenials are mostly comprised of SJW types
>Bernie is a SJW
>Millenials like Bernie

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>>677764802
Ted Cruz
>abolish the IRS
>then who was tax?

>>677765564
Socialist Jew Witch?

>>677765246
>raising the minimum wage means people have more money!

Yeah, no.

Labour is a resource. Raising the price of labour has wide ranging effects. For one thing many, many small businesses would no longer be able to afford to buy labour / employ people. Small businesses either downsize or close, unemployment goes up.
It also spurs inflation, so everything gets more expensive anyway.

I used to work in a Mcdonalds when I was a teenager; there was a woman there who had been there 25 years. When she started, she earned £3 an hour and that was enough for her to rent an apartment, feed and clothe herself and still have money to go out every weekend partying.

>>677765589
no one cares about Booger Eating Rat Boy

>>677763923
What he means it's that does not make sense morally. Education should be a right since it is a basic need.

Education drives social mobility, if poor people can't afford education they are gonna remain poor no matter how hard they work. This affects the low-middle class which is 90% of the population, so yeah, its bad.

It makes sense that a loan would cost more economically, but it would also make sense economically to deny healthcare to old people or terminally deseased people, but since its morally unacceptable the state puts himself inbetween to protect his citizien.

>Economics are not the compass for every behavior and basically you are a retarded autist with complete lack of prospective or connection with reality

>>677765589
The Zodiac wants to turn the US into the Christian ISIS.

It's fun to watch your country attempt to set itself on fire.

Fun, if not a little scary that you guys are genuinely still a super power.

>>677765246
Money that they take from small business owners who have to pay crooks because unfortunately we can't shoot hoodlum niggers anymore and they run neighborhoods as a result and the management won't be able to afford to keep operating if they have to pay shitty niggers $15 to stand around and complain all day

>>677763923
Your "it's just their nature" quote is revealing. You Yanks have all been spoon fed Hayek's fringe theories on economics for so long that you treat free market fetishism as axiomatic. To literally the rest of the world, you inability to challenge that view and even attempt to logically support it looks insane.

>>677765740
Social justice warrior but that works asw

>>677765833
This. OP...this guy understands economics. It's basic microeconomics....when you increase the cost for unskilled labor, unemployment for unskilled labor will simply go up. Trying to use the government to intervene with this natural market force is unwise and most of Bernie's arguments about this appeal to the emotions of economically-illiterate millennials.

whats wrong with bernie economically?

im not versed on the things each candidate has claimed but i did recently take economics 101 in college

>>677765564
Shilary is much more sjw, she is a female so...

>>677766033

so wait is bernie like some kind of evil mastermind? knowingly deceiving economically illiterate people for some unknown purpose, presumably money and power through corruption of some kind?

>>677765909
Basic education is a right. University education is a privilege.

>>677766017
>tfw not american

not everyone wants Daddy Government to look after every aspect of their lives.

>>677761277
>Be me, Donald Trump, shortly after winning presidency
>Decide to follow with pre disclosed tax plan and stop taxing the poor
>Tax the rich more
>Wait no I'm rich I can't do that
>Fuck it who needs taxes anyway
>Country loses money and economy begins to collapse
>Beg Mexico for money
>Beg China for money
>Beg everyone for money
>No one gives me money
>Die

Ebin good thread anon :^)

>>677766084
>Haven't seen Bernie protestors at Trump rallies
>Haven't seen Bernie supporters anywhere on the Internet or irl
Tbh they're both SJWs

>>677766164
or he's just a well meaning fool.

I actually kind of like the guy, he seems to legitimately care, it's just his empathy is often misplaced and his solutions are dogshit.

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>>677766055
Taxing people who own small amounts of property like a small business will go bankrupt if they have to pay people $15 an hour, that's a ludicrous idea and would kill off America's middle class, Bernie wants us to all fight for illegal underground jobs in China while those who actually get through free PhDs flood the nation and have to flee, like the Chinese and Indian doctors that come to the United States? What good is this country if we breed our own to migrate and let Syrians take over. Fuck this political correctness I'm voting Trump

>>677766189
For now it is, things might change if bernie has his way.

>>677766436
>What good is this country if we breed our own to migrate and let Syrians take over
>I'm completely unaware that there are other countries on the planet
>This is my sandbox everyone else get out

Nigga kill yourself

>>677762712
>This if what been victims actually
props to you bro, that's impressive that a Downsy can type.

>>677766397
Basically what this guy >>677766397 is saying. He means well, his heart is in the right place, but he's just been in Congress forever and never really worked in the private sector. I think he is a nice guy who genuinely believes his message, but he is naive.

>>677765589
KEK

>>677766450
Education up to high school is definitely a right. But university I could never see it as a right. If Bernie implements his free Uni plan, then expect to see more gender studies and liberal arts degrees.

>>677766189
Basic education is granted to retarded people as well, America needs to start granting normal citizens a chance to make their own way.

It's funny how you say sander's supporters are economically illiterate when trump wants to do socialism himself. He said he wants to increase protectionism, which is anti-capitalist. Setting aside money for social programs instead of the over-inflated military budget is not being economically illiterate. Nice strawman though faggot.

>>677766698

You mean more meme studies

>lets redistribute where tax money goes
>people think that means free shit
Fucking idiots, he has released plans about how he plans on getting the money for everything and the only people it will negatively affect is the ones that make literally millions of dollars a year. I just want my money to got to providing life saving health care and good educations to people in order to actually keep up with Europe and Canada( which are blowing us away in human rights and happiness) instead of giving shitty politicians six figures and more military crap that isn't necessary. To vote for someone you should have to be able to pass a test showing you know about and understand their polices

>>677765909
university education is not a right, it's not a basic need. plenty of well paying jobs are available to people without degrees.

at least they were.

besides, you can go to college with a loan. you just have to pay it back eventually. which, hopefully, will lend some weight to the decision to do the degree in the first place. imagine how many fucking 'Sociology' degrees we'll be paying for if college is free to everyone.

>>677766450
And he will.

The whole point of threads like these is butt-mad Retardican's wanting things in America to stay "American".

Donald Trump is a fat, rich, racist white guy. He's literally the perfect candidate for the Republican Party. Unfortunately for him, all the big, non-redneck states are voting Democrat, like they always do.

These threads are fucking dumb. Republican's are trying to run America backwards with their candidates this election. At least fucking Romney had a viable tax plan and solution for the economic crisis, Trump is literally just bullshitting his way into the final 2 to watch the retards who put him up burn.

>>677762640
his tax plan is a travesty

>>677766707
So all SJWs can get gender studies, women studies and liberal arts degrees, then complain when there aren't enough women in STEM fields? Nah fam.

>>677761454

Realtalk though how many of those countries have as many niggers as the USA and more importantly, how close to the US's population are they? The more people you have in a population the more old people and lazy people you have that will either NEED to be supported by the system or will look for ways to be piggy-backed off of it with as little effort as possible.

Socialism would work in a perfect world where everyone believes in the system and does their genuine best to put in at least as much as they get out, or in a specific area small enough where there are few enough people cheesing the system to get free shit that everyone else can support their weight.

The way it looks right now there's not going to be any social security left in 20 to 30 years, much less enough to encompass paying out to more people.

The system that bernie wants in america specificaly would benefit the lazy and fuck the hardworking.

Go to sweden you cucks see how long itll last with all you lazy faggots trying to cash out on the minimum effort possible or on your womens studies, see how much their economy benefits from your useless degrees and unskilled mcjob labor

Faggots

>>677766558
Give me one good reason to let Muslims into America?

>>677766708
you just straw-manned yourself too, idiot

>>677766698
Maybe not free but at least it should be affordable. You also will see more people going to stem (aka real jobs). For me its wrong that someone gets the "priviledge" to go to university from birth. University opens up high paying jobs and it seems unethical to me that the access to those is only open to those who have families with high paying jobs themselves. Priviledges of birth are never a good thing.

>>677766786
if by 'redistribute where tax money goes' you mean
>raise taxes for everyone

then yeah you're almost right.

as for people who make millions of dollars a year; why do you have the right to their money? they already pay taxes, sometimes exorbitant amounts of taxes. why do they have the moral obligation to pay for everyone else?

this robin hood shit isn't so morally black and white in the real world.

>>677766268
Right, yes. Because outside of America, every single person wants the state to manage all aspects of their lives. You got us there. The rest of the world is basically the DPRK because sometimes we use our collective social influence to prevent predatory markets developing around basic essential services like health care and education.

Incisive commentary from the Trumpetariat. Enjoy your years actively endorsing the things ruining your country while simultaneously being enraged that your country sucks more and more.

>>677766924
>normal people
>sjw
Try again fam

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>>677766677
>can recite all the corrupt financiers, politicians and CEOs that control our economy
>naive

>>677762283
Lol Venezuela. Isn't that like a territory or something m8? Seriously, it's a shit hole there. You can't polish shit.

>>677761277
He's a real life Palpatine, some weird shit is going to happen and he'll be President and rule the USA as an Empire and make America great again.

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>>677761401
See anon gets it

>>677766189
>>677766841

>Higher Education is not a basic need or right
>America #14th in Education
>America #2nd in Obesity
>America is #1 in Prisoners

The idea that lower-end higher education is not affordable is absolutely retarded. Our country is literally designed around letting poor people stay poor due to a lack of available systems in place to promote prosperity. Our country is fucking stupid, fat and violent.

If you legitimately believe that this country is fine the way it is you're a fucking dunce. It isn't just the niggers anymore, anon, the whole fucking country is retarded.

>>677761277
It'd be great if Americucks would finally understand that Sanders and Trump are almost the same. They have a lot of common grounds on social principles, foreign politics, they're both surprisingly radically different from the establishment.

>>677761277
> MFW America has a 21% adult illiteracy rate
>America is ranked 45 in life expectancy
>America has 3rd world crime rates
> Education, Healthcare & a lack of equality of opportunity
>MFW America is a wealthy third world country
>MFW when you call people that want to vote for a system that mimics countries much better than the US stupid
I have no face

>>677767166
>normal people are fags for helping people
get out of that 6th grader South Park referencing mentality

>>677767087
Yes, agreed not free, its easier to get a loan from government then eventually pay it back, than getting it from the banks.

>>677762488
Lol remember what happened with Reagan and the "trickle of wealth". The middle class is shrinking. Maybe we should do what's right on paper, so we don't die.

>>677766955
Of all the people to let into the country, the Muslims are the least likely to cannibalize you, next to the Jews, because they don't eat pork.

>>677767316
Underrated post.

Even Canada has their shit stepped up. They were suppose to be our fucking hat, now we're just their fucking ass.

>>677766841
If you come from a low income family there is no way you can put yourself on a 50k$ loan. If you wanted to study engineering and were denied only because your parents didn't have money, to me it is wrong and impairing to the whole society. Please tell me that you agree that at least for real jobs university should be affordable. Either this or we just disagree

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Bernie for president

>>677767457
I fucking died laughing

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Ideas about the benefits of a "liberalized" economy and smaller govt. are quaint, but not based in reality. If the Fed were to reduce it's size the US economy would most certainly collapse. This is in no small part due to the fact that Federal and state governments shell out trillions of dollars every year supplying what amounts to a welfare for the wealthy (In the form of subsidies, tax breaks, and government contracts). On a related note, the public sector is where real technological & economic innovation comes from. Most of the upfront costs associated with R&D are taken on the nose by US tax payers. A good place to look would be the US military (a wing of the government which is largely misunderstood by the general population). If you look at the technologies that drive modern industry & business most of them have been developed using military funds (computer hardware &software, networking, aerospace, telecom etc.)
thoughts?

>>677767457
>implying goat fuckers don't eat people too

>>677767457
Toppest of fucking kek
11/10

>>677767655
>They'll fuck a goat
>But they're too high brow to plow your pig wife
>Absolutely haram

>>677761277
Because people always call democrsts economically illiterate, that Republicans are these economic geniuses then we look at disasters like Louisiana, how a governor could succeed a Democrat who produced a budget surplus and slowly ruin that state so badly that lsu isn't going to run a football program next year.
Also, getting involved in an endless war with no plan to pay for it. Deregulation of wall Street that led to the 2008 depression. All Republican ideas.
Who the fuck would vote for Hillary.

By default some people choose bernie.

>>677767570
For real jobs that actually increase your worth in society yes.

>>677763923
yep, were fucked. Interesting how shit will play out though.

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>>677767743
How high brow can they be when they got the extra connection in the middle holding them down

>>677767316
no pic?
no feel?
no sauce....?

>>677767360
What i said is that normal people are not sjw. Normal as of the majority of people.

Do we agree that sjw level political correctness is a fringe behaviour?
At least where i live it is, im sad for you if where you live its just the norm.

>>677767570
Good luck with that

>>677768002
Not the guy you replied to. But Yes normal people who actually want to increase their worth, should have an easier way to get higher education.

>>677766436
I've always thought minimum wage shouldn't be static. But that would fuck things up real quick.

>>677768014
Ikr, imagine the wawe of swj anger if anythig like thar got ever proposed
>GENDER STUDIES IS JUST AS USUAL TO SOCIETY AS ENGINEERING AND MEDICINE STOP RAPING ME

Onr can dream tho

>>677763923
Education should be free, atleast not as expensive as it is today in the us.. The goverment should see it as an investment in its citizens

>>677762035
>>677761913
that dude was a moderate republican. He liberalized the economy, reduced regulations in finance, redacted glass-steagall, introduced a disastrous "free trade" agreement (which was anything but)... people forget that this country's political parties shifted to the right after Reagan.

>>677767908
Learn 2 google

https://www.google.ca/search?q=usa+illiteracy+rate&oq=usa+illiteracy+rate&aqs=chrome..69i57.5362j0j4&client=ms-android-samsung&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/09/06/illiteracy-rate_n_3880355.html
https://www.google.ca/search?q=usa+illiteracy+rate&oq=usa+illiteracy+rate&aqs=chrome..69i57.5362j0j4&client=ms-android-samsung&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8#q=list+of+incarceration+rates+by+country
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_life_expectancy

>>677761277
You fucked up the moment you expected the majority of the USA to be smarter than a sack of nigger potato's

>>677768424
Don't forget about the social conservatism. Promoting the superpredstor theory, getting tipper gores (the lady that led a major campaign suggesting heavy metal and rap music are corrupting our youth) husband as a vice president

>>677768002
When you get into major cities it becomes the norm. A university in my city over here down under has a feminist week and they were selling baked goods to women for less, because >MUH GENDER WAGE GAP.

>>677768405
>the government will pay for education
this is what libtards actually believe lmao

the gov gets its money from the citizens. nothing is free. making education "free" only forces everyone to chip in, whether you are going to school or not.

i already paid my hard earned money to make it through college, why should i be forced to pay your way through so you can get some worthless SJW lib arts degree?

fuck ya'll are greedy dumb niggers

>>677768770
>buy a shit ton of cookies
>tell them you identify as a woman
>open a stand next to their's
>sell them to men at .05 cents lower than what the feminists are selling
>???
>profit

>>677761277
yeah, because the current state of affairs is working so great.
you are a blind, brainwashed tool if you realy want to keep things as they are.

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it is simple

>>677763046
>the conception of the US was because of overtaxing by the Brits.

Uh, no, it's because the colonies were taxed without representation in Parliament. Nice try though, Trumpfag

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>>677768814
its funny because libcucks said the same thing too about "free" healthcare before changing its name to "affordable healthcare"

it is neither. great job fucking that one up

>>677763286
The meme is that Ted Cruz is the Zodiac, retard

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>>677761277
pic very related

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He's not winning at all

>>677763286
Much more resemblance than ted cruz

>>677769143
The truth is that it's bernie.

Bernie is going to be outed by the DC madams attorney any day now. His first sex scandal will just be the tip of the iceberg.

>>677769143
Ted cruz wasn't even alive when that started.

>>677767630
I'd like to add two things:
1. the American ideal of social & economic mobility is cute, but not based in reality. Regardless of work ethic, it's almost a statistical certainty that you will end up in the same socioeconomic class which you were born into.
2. Welfare programs alleviate symptoms of poverty but do little in the way of reducing the causes.

>>677769570
Are you Ted Cruz?

>>677769108
the republicans of the house gutted Obama's healthcare bill btw.
might have worked a little better had it actually been implemented as it was modeled

>>677761277
gr8 b8 m8

>>677769645
Yes. ama

yeah but like we're all going to die anyway so who give a mthrfk

>>677769803
No way, retard. Obama just does whatever he wants because he's been a socialist dictator who does whatever he wants.

What's funny is you people all think he's going to willingly give up power next January.

>>677766929
how about germany?

some of us social democracy cuntrys pay about the same amount of tax as you fags and still get free healthcare. If you don't want free healthcare etc maybe you should be asking for of your tax back.

>>677769920
Are you the Zodiac Killer?

>>677770137
Yes I killed zodiac smith.

>>677768814
Taxes are paid for services from the governament proportionally to your income.

the minimum wage thing is overhyped, in places that it has been implemented (so far) it hasn't had drastic consequences (look at Seattle for example).... In fact any real negative consequences have gone unobserved as of yet. But hey CA & NY are doing it, so we'll see what happens there and then !!!! with some actual large scale data !!!! we will be able to tell exactly what happens when you make marginal increases to the minimum wage!! won't that be great, then all the bs and speculation will be over once and for ALL.

>>677761277
People saw the bullshit when their wages didn't go up throughout all of the trickledown period or when the economy was "doing good again" under obama. That's basically it

>>677767170

na·ive
nīˈēv/
adjective
adjective: naive; comparative adjective: naiver; superlative adjective: naivest; adjective: naïve; comparative adjective: naïver; superlative adjective: naïvest

(of a person or action) showing a lack of experience, wisdom, or judgment.

In this case, a lack of both wisdom and judgement.

>>677762431
behind on abortion on what sense? Canada is legal to abort at any time up until actual birth. Many other countries it's legal to do at very early stages. And others only for rape, incest, ect. htf is the US "behind"? Idiot doesn't know logic

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>>677761277
Feel the Bern

so germany is an industrial and prosperous country. are you sure that socialism is the problem?

>>677768405
Edumacation never did me good I got a good job with out one

>>677769645
No, he's the zodiac killer

>>677764155
Another libtard that thinks the party roles switched to blame the other party for their own doing. gtfo of here. it never happened.

>>677771435
Yes. Nazis were socialists.

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>>677771435
are you feeling the bern yet?

>>677764802
the same people that don't understand what taxes do and pay for. They just bitch about because they're dumb.

>>677771435

Germany is also burning due to massive influx of sandniggers, and their president is a useless bitch.

They're also still pretty fucked up over WW2, so I'm not entirely sure they're the best example to use. Poor fucks live VERY strict lives, and they censor everything into the ground.

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>>677771877
Hillary is ahead and will stay ahead

>>677771616
>Nazis were socialists
i dont see the problem here.
>>677771877
i thought somebody might say that, but thats a completly different issue
>Poor fucks live VERY strict lives
wut--näh dude its ok

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>>677771877
>Poor fucks live VERY strict lives
>>677772064
though you hit a good point, our society punishes lazyness thats why the system works i guess

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>>677761277
>Give me one good reason why Bernie Sanders is getting as many votes as he is, seriously I don't understand you economically illiterate people.

Because all the other candidates would waste money on shit that's even dumber (such as trying to ban or undermine encryption), and his free education stuff is unlikely to go anywhere anyways; so if it never happens then there's no concern.

His policies in other areas are desirable and he's consistently voted against spying and corporate lobbied/funded legislation.

>>677761832
>democratic socialism isn't an economic system. It's more like a certain type of tax system since it doesn't influence the economy whatsoever

The very definition of economic illiteracy.

>>677762922
And being an economist and a communist are not mutually exclusive.

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>>677772308
dude weed

>>677772324
OR just bait.

>>677772324
>The very definition of economic illiteracy.
dont know what you were fighting about, but wouldnt you agree that most people are economic illiteral? itnt that normal?

>>677772064

Compared to the US, it's strict as shit.

>>677772197
>our society punishes lazyness

The US's does not, and it is also ABSOLUTELY BRIMMING with people entirely willing to abuse the system because they can.

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>>677772648
Dude weed

>>677767087
Screw yourself. I've been setting money for college aside since my son was born. We live in a smaller house than we could have had, I drive cheaper cars than I could have had. Sorry, but hearing that I'm somehow priviledged for that by someone wants a free ride burns me.

Finnfag here, socialism works pretty great. Sure, there are people piggybacking and there's a lot of public debate what to do to get those people off their asses, but the pros are so much more plentiful than the cons. You can live your entire life without having to panic and worry about getting unlucky and dropping out of society. And keep in mind that things that Bernie is advocating for are FAR from the situation in the Nordic countries. Your most left-wing politician would be a money-grubbing nutjob right-wing conservatist here.

>>677761277
They are Freeloaders.

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>>677772902
dude..... weed

>>677772648
mmmhhhh well thats sucks for you guys i guess, but your current system seems to punish the poor atleast educationwise, im not really a socialist but seeing how a big percentage of ivyleage uni spots go to rich kids....

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>>677761277
Because he understands and calls oit the flaws of capitalism.

Unlike the corporate elite and their idiot followers. Pic related

>>677772902
that's great that you've made sensible decisions to support your son's future, but you have to acknowledge that you did not start out at 0. i also did not start out at 0. i was born into a neighborhood with a pretty low crime rate, i had 2 parents with jobs, and i was able to go to a good public school.

the point is that a lot of people aren't even given these, the basic setup for academic ergo future success. to say you and i are privileged is not to say we've never had to work for anything or should be ashamed; it's just that we have to at least acknowledge that some people have had it more difficult than us, but still deserve the same opportunities

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>>677761277
One reason:
Because people have figured out that it doesn't matter if you vote the traditional red or blue.
The American people is getting poorer and poorer, and getting less democracy in politics And where the biggest corps essentially is the only winners.

It doesn't matter how good/bad Bernie is, people want true democracy and big changes.
And he promised to get money out of politics...

>>677772902
>Screw yourself. I've been setting money for college aside since my son was born.
so the children of idiots should suffer, because of them?

>>677772902
Yeah but not every kid has a dad who thinks that way. Some kids have dads in gangs who get shot and leave them jack shit. Those are the kids who have no chance of breaking the cycle unless free public education is avaliable to them.

>>677773165
most stupid comic ever

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>>677772965
but dude

whata bout weed dude?

>>677766852
Another libtard
"Trump is a fat, rich, racist white guy"
well, by history's standards, that sounds like he's the perfect candidate for the Democratic party.
We want to stay American because we've worked and died for a lot of shit to make America "America", and to give it up because some noneducated libtards said so it idiotic.

>>677769243
kek

But make it Germany or UK or France, just to avoid the "but Denmark has only 12 citizens!" pseudo argument

http://fickenVZ.net/254430 join us

>>677772403
>And being an economist and a communist are not mutually exclusive.

Being a scientist and a Scientologist are also not mutually exclusive, it just takes a whole lot of delusion.

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>>677773278
Don't forget just common poor people, who essentially is bare scraping their bank account each month to just get by.

>>677773090

The public school system is a nightmare, that's true, but it's not fixable by just making everything more socialist and throwing tax money at it. They've been throwing money at the school system for years and it's done nothing but get worse because they keep hiring people who don't actually care to teach, and they force them to teach unnecessary shit to people who aren't ever going to use it, as opposed to teaching them vital life skills.

>>677767170
I can name names and facts too. Doesn't mean I know shit about them.
>naïve still applies

>>677773324
party values have changed throughout history bud

>>677769269
Since when do you vote only for frontrunners?

Might as well make the Ballots a once-choice format then

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>>677761277
I feel you bro.
Basic Economics should be a must read in high-school

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>>677773279
Look who's talking

>>677768497
>>America is ranked 45 in life expectancy
ranked 34.
did you even bother to read anything from your own sources?

>>677773493
yeah but regardless of that if colleges wouldnt take
big donations the system would be fairer just like that

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>>677773496
If you can name facts without knowing shit about them, then you sir are a retard for reals?

You know the difference between facts and information right?

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>>677773590
>Basic Economics
>TOP KEK
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>>677762040
>White's are victimized
Trump fag

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>>677773770

True, but that is still possible without all the other crap that comes with having Bernie in office.

Finding a single kernel of corn in a turd does not make it good to eat.

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>>677774085