It's true, I'm American I don't know much about them. Google could of answered this faster Faggot.

>>676520630
But my little bitch would be out of a job then wouldn't he.

>>676520630
/thread

>>676520437
in France, we don't need license but we're required to pay television tax,
if you don't have TV, you must inform them to remove this tax, they might come check you you really don't have TV.

>>676520885
>in France, we don't need license but we're required to pay television tax,
>if you don't have TV, you must inform them to remove this tax, they might come check you you really don't have TV.

I have 7 tvs in my house, if I were to live there would i pay one flat rate, or be charged for each tv (even if they are not in use).

>come and check

lol are you fucking serious, dude The US has it's problems, but fuck all that.

Britfag here. You need a license to operate a TV. It pays for the BBC. You don't need a license to OWN a TV though. If you don't actually watch TV with it then you're good.


It's basically a tax that pays for the BBC. Which is why some people really hate the BBC.

>>676520885
But do you pay a TV provider? Or is watching broadcast free?

There's bound to be a way to get around it. Idiots who pay it deserve to be taxed.

>>676520437
>in the UK
shit.. in Denmark you have to pay for a licence if you own a TV; a smartphone or anything else that has access to the internet or TV channels. the law says you HAVE to pay, but you really dont have to, since they cant go out and demand the money.
however, if you dont pay, they eventually take the money from through your taxes.
half the population in denmark (if not more) are very much against this and wants to get rid of it.

>>676521099
You should pay one flat rate that covers every TV in your house. I have four TVs and I've never heard about the rate going up.

>>676521117
Do you have TV providers that you pay to "bring the content to you"?

>>676521117
ty for a legitimate answer.

How is it enforced?

Say you just watch tv but without watching the BigBlackCock

That's sort of fucked up don't you think.

>>676521139
this

so do you have an ISP/cable provider like we do, or how does it work?

>>676521234
Apparently they can just come in your house if they want there.

>>676521296
That is terrible man. Why do people let this happen.

>>676521333
I guess that's slightly less bad.

Who are the companies that supply you internet and cable/satellite?

>>676521373
also interested in this answer.

>>676520437

>Do you really require a license to own and operate a television in the UK?

yes, but it's not so much a license as it is a tax to fund the state broadcaster (non-commercial television and radio)

>If so why?

Historical reasons, but gives us a quality provider of non-commercial content.

>How is this even enforced?

They attempt to fine any household which does not have a license. You can avoid paying by proving you don't have a tv.

Basically it's a stealth tax.

Britfag here, If you go freeview is there any legitimate way for them to find out you watch tv?

>>676521492
>Basically it's a stealth tax.

This through and through, same with parking fines, speeding tickets and so on

>>676521504

I avoided paying tv license for many years by not owning a television.

Not sure how easy it is these days as iPlayer means any internet connected household has the ability to consume BBC content.

>>676521492
Thanks to you and the rest of my redcoat friends that gave legitimate answers.

>>676521658
How would they know if you've got one or not? Or are you charged by default, and have to prove otherwise to be waved?

>>676521492
Your country sucks. Hard.

>>676521296
That weird. Do they have lawyers for unhappy customers who got bad haircuts too? Denmark doesn't sound like an ideal place for anyone to live.

I do not envy you, mate. God bless you

>>676521482
well we cant do shit about it, the channel has monopol (typo?) on the whole subject, so it dosnt even matter if you watch their bullshit channel. worst part is that you pay a flat rate, wich means that a family of 6 with 5 TV*s will pay the same fucking amount as myself (student living with gf with 1 tv)
people are having enough of it, but i dont see an end in sight honestly. (danishfag here)

>>676520437
yes, it's for watching live TV; it's how they keep the bbc up and running aswell as some tax. it is enforced but idk how, they used to drive around with scanners in vans in the 70s but I doubt that's the same now

>>676521757
and you're from where?

>>676521819
Dude that sucks, I would be pissed if I was you.

>>676521482
>Apparently they can just come in your house if they want there.
They came to my house when I lived in the UK for a year. Just got out of the shower, was naked and told this guy I told watch the shit. Nigger was so surprised I was in a towel he just left.

>>676521746

Charged by default and prove otherwise. I invited their chap into my flat to show him no tv.

They assume everyone has tv.

Personally I like the BBCs level of quality, but the license is an anachronism from ye olde days when only better-off families had tvs and radios. Now everyone can consume their content at all times would make more sense to fund the BBC from regular taxes.

>>676521762
honestly man, if i have to pay for owning a TV, thats okay since i still get free healthcare, great wages (even if uneducated) and get payed to go to school. so its all good fam

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Oh it gets much better than that.

>>676521757

It's not that big a deal, and it's not even that expensive.

Rather have licensed tvs than unlicensed guns.

On a side note, the tv license is free if you live with someone over the age of 65 I think might be older

>>676521960
everyone is fucking pissed, but we cant do much about it since its a politics issue. and the politicians we have are ancient and out of tune with what we actually need here

>>676521929
He is probably an American as well as I am.

>>676521973
I mean it isn't 'that' expensive, but it just seems a bit unfair imo. Different countries different bullshit it seems.

>>676522001
fair point

>>676522076
No fucking way

Now you are just yanking my chain

>>676521757
Ausfag here. British TV is good quality. US TV is mostly shit tier.. Sorry

>>676522195
>British TV is good quality

Apart from maybe 1 or 2 shows, it really isn't

>>676522001
The pros do weigh out the cons from what you're saying.

It's a nice trade, but what happens if they tax you guys for more stupid stuff? Like an air tax or a dirt tax. Maybe a sleeping tax?

>>676522090
I'm more focusing on the guilty until proven innocent thing with the fines. Does that sort of shit happen often over there?

>>676522104

> I mean it isn't 'that' expensive, but it just seems a bit unfair imo. Different countries different bullshit it seems.

True true. Like I say, it's a holdover from the post-war years where it made sense to levy an extra little tax from those rich enough to own radios and tvs which only ever broadcast BBC. It's a very different landscape now.

>>676522271
Samefag here. The quality has been getting worse, I admit, but US free to air is patheitc and pay TV in US isn't worth it. In the 70s and 80sUK TV was god tier.

>>676522298
we are already one of the countrys in the world with the most taxes. we have the highest at least. i am a student and i have 40% tax rate wich is ridiculous compared to the richest in the country get a 55% tax (when you have a certain income you can pretty much regulate how much you wish to pay, but only if that income is pathticly high)

>>676522298
>Maybe a sleeping tax?
Then the Mexicans can pay for the wall.

>>676522326

Not much, maybe this and speeding/parking fines where you have to prove innocence.

Justice system in general is probably fairer than the US.

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>>676522076
Really, mate? Four pigs to look at a pond?

>>676522553
the amount of mexicans in denmark is next to 0
>too many mudslimes tho

>>676522445
we pay for a tv package where we get about 600 channels. At most we watch 15 of them, the rest are pure shite.

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>>676522195
Most shows duck regardless of region since they pander to one brain-dead demographic or another.

There have been good shows from most countries, but like always you have to weed through a mass of shit to find that one kernal of corn.

>>676522326
It seems that way from what they are saying.

>>676522379
But since everyone now owns these 'luxury items' they don't have any problem with the increased revenue.

fuckers.

>>676522553
Don't give them any ideas.

>>676522583
pic related

>>676521482
Same Britfag here. To be honest I don't actually know how you opt out of it. As far as I know it's a tax that's paid out automatically (taxes are done automatically here) and you have to call someone and be taken off of the register. But you do have to pay even if you don't watch BBC. You can never touch the BBC but you'll still have to pay for it. Which just pisses people off further.

>>676522541
That's smegging retarded. 40%? As a student? Do you eat ramen and drink sink water to live?

>>676522686
In Aus we used to have 5 free to air channels, mostly the best of BBC and USA. When pay TV hit Australia and free to air increased their channel numbers we have dozens of free to air channels which are mostly shit and pay TV which is mostly shit.

There is only enough good material to fill up 15 channels. Why have more channels than that?

I stopped watching TV in the 90s. If ppl tell me a show is good, I download it.

>>676521373
>>676521482
To be honest I'm not entirely sure what you mean. I do pay for BT Sport but that's the closest thing I have to a TV provider. Most people in the UK have Freeview or Freesat since they turned the analogue signal off and forced everyone to go digital. Even with Freeview/Sat you still have to pay the TV license, but you don't need to pay a provider like Sky or BT.

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>>676522905
That would make me bent as well.

Alright I am going to go watch a movie and get a little more shit faced. Thanks for the discussion feel free to continue if you like.

OP

>>676522773
>Most shows duck regardless of region since they pander to one brain-dead demographic or another.
>There have been good shows from most countries, but like always you have to weed through a mass of shit to find that one kernal of corn.
Samefag here conceding truth. It is mostly shit.

I'm assuming this is why British streaming websites are insanely popular?

>>676522553
Jose no like that idea, homes. No escriba de la photocopia.

Mexicans are alright i guess. I worry more about dominicans

>>676520437
In Germany you have to pay even if you don't own a TV. A while ago only TV-Owners would have to pay something called "Rundfunkgebühr" (radio license fee) for the public sector broadcasters, but these jews now make everyone pay. Even our courts say it's legitimate. So you pay 210€ per year for shit only old af people would watch (Andre Rieu, folk music and some shit)

If you don't pay, they sent bailiffs to collect the money or pawn your stuff or, what also happened, install valves on your car tires that let the air out of your tires as soon as you move your car

TL;DR: Germany has it, the people collecting are a mix of SS and Jews

>>676523121
Enjoy your movie. I got some nice dubs in this thread so I'm happy.

Living in Germany and I have to pay TV fee although I don't have one, radio fee although I don't have one, and german online content fee although I never visit any german website.
Worse, the fee is per household not per person, and I live alone. So I'm paying premium for no services whatsoever. Awesome.

>>676523172
But it's racist and supports Trump.

What's not to like?

>>676523160
It's a blatant stealth tax. No wonder people oppose it.

Britfag here. You only need a license if you watch TV as it is being broadcast, so if you only stream catch-up TV or watch Netflix or play vidya you don't have to pay.

As for paying content providers, there is a free service you can get via aerial or satellite called freeview and freesat respectively. Not had live TV for ages but IIRC you get the BBC channels plus about 50 extra, plus some radio. Almost all of the channels play repeats of gameshows or terrible movies, or are shopping channels. Notable exceptions are ITV and Channel 4, which are legacy channels from pre-digital and make their own content.

Most people who watch TV pay for a subscription service, though. The only real options are Sky (satellite) and Virgin (cable). NOW TV is also popular currently which is a cheap box through which you can buy a month of Sky at a time.

The TV license is enforced by freelancers who go round pestering anyone who doesn't have a TV license. They get commission for every person they dob in, but have literally no legal authority, and the TV license authority never bother with warrants (despite being able to impose heavy fines if they can come up with proof), so generally it's fine to tell the agents to just fuck off.

>>676523291
You also pay religous ax even though everyone knows there is no religion?

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>>676523121
Yeah, Thanks for talking, OP. I'm glad this didn't turn to some cancerous shit like a trap thread or something.

Drink semi responsibly

>>676523410
I declared myself as no religion, so I skipped that.

>>676523379
>The TV license is enforced by freelancers who go round pestering anyone who doesn't have a TV license. They get commission for every person they dob in, but have literally no legal authority, and the TV license authority never bother with warrants (despite being able to impose heavy fines if they can come up with proof), so generally it's fine to tell the agents to just fuck off.
When I lived there I knew of a guy who did not have a TV and did not pay the tax and he got pestered all the time. It seems the idea is they annoy you until you pay. Very British.

>>676523028
I dont since i live my with gf and we have a combined income, but many students dont have any other choice than that
>in the meantime mudslimes get houses for free and startup money when they arrive. also nobody wants to hire ethnic danes anymore bcs if companys hire the new refugees they get a ton of money and a tax cut for each they hire. shit is retarded and on course for disaster.

>>676523562
Excellent. How many people declare themself no religion in Germany?

>>676520437
Yes by law you are required to have a TV license, just an annual fee of like £100.

The money from it is used to fund the BBC, this was especially important when they were the only broadcaster, less so now.

The reason is still funds the BBC is because BBC channels have no advertising. As opposed to 'merican ones where you watch more adverts than TV.

>>676523066
Interesting. Here in the U.S you can have access to the broadcast channels for free, but to get the rest of the channels you have to pay a ISP/Cable provider. Funniest part is those providers have a package option with just your local channels and broadcast, which believe it or not I know people who pay for that package even though they can get it for free.

>>676523609
this, if you stink of shit, can't speak english and have a family of over 20 people, come on over we'll get you a house and anything else you want within a fucking week.

>>676520437
Ok so far all these answers have been retarded so here it is.

Yes there is such thing as tv licence, it essentially pays for a bunch of channels which have no advertising. Can you imagine that Americunts? watching an entire show without viagra and burger adverts coming on every 15 minutes?

Your right about the enforcement though, its an absolute joke, in the 80s they used to drive around "television detection vans" to find out who had a set so they could knock on the door and tac them. The funny thing is these vans were total bullshit and had fake satellite dishes on the top. Only idiots bought it.

Pretty much the same now, they send you letters and knock on the door but legally you dont have to let them in, ive never had to pay it...

>>676523641
I'm not sure but it's not many, it means you can't get married in a church or stuff like that, most families just conform with it.

>>676523641
same thing happens in denmark, you pay a tax to the christian church unless you opt out (you pay from the day you are fucking born)

>>676523648
Sadly, I believe you. Can you please describe these people for me? It will help me enjoy laughing at them a little more.

>>676523777
pretty much, yes.

>>676523820
thanks

>>676523643
With regards to enforcement in the UK, they can check for a TV signal but that's not massively accurate "my neighbour watches tv not me..." or they can ask nicely to be let in to check...
Basically you don't have to let them in but they can send a fine they can barely enforce if you don't.

>>676523845
But most people in Denmark must opt out? Aren't Danes mostly atheists

>>676523935
np

>>676520437
The britfag >>676521117 explained.
It's enforced using a series of automated threatening letters.

Weird I knew about this tax but I thought it was just a one off thing you pay when you buy a new TV. Kinda like VAT/GST

>>676524081
They used to have a window tax.

>>676524003
its pretty easy to opt out, so its really just a matter of lazyness.
and yes, the majority in denmark are atheists.

>>676523777
I don't know what people base this shit on, the benefits system is fucked in this country but it absolutely doesn't favour asians. All the asians my age i know have just as shitter time dealing with them as the white ones...

>except i know way less asian kids who use them cause uncle asim will slap their shit if they don't get a job, learn to drive and pick up his kids from school for him....

TV Lisence is real, it pays for the bbc so we dont have to watch shitty adverts, even though they show their own.

Its a mandatory thinb if you recieve a live signal into your home, if you dont pay and you should be they can fine you upto £1000, i think a few people have actually went to prison because of it.

We have cable services as well but you still need a lisence with them because your tv can recieve a live signal.

They scan houses as well to check for any live signal inputs.

>>676520437
Used to be a license here in Finland, but it's not like you HAD to pay it. You didn't have to let the fucking TV vampires in your house to verify shit.

Practically it was just to pay for the government-operated tv channels and what not, and those are generally absolite shit.

Now it's a tax you have to pay if you make over a certain amount, I dunno how much, a year.

As a student, I don't have to care.

>>676524306
we're talking refugees not asians.

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>>676520437
Britfag reporting in

>Do you really require a license to own and operate a television in the UK?
Yes, it's the same with guns in the states

>If so why?
Can't let the paupers become enlightened

>How is this even enforced?
Any caught operating a TV without proper papers are detained by the BBC and required to appear on I'm a Celebrity Get Me Out of Here for 12 months while Jordan Price fucks them in the arse with a 12" strap on

>>676523648
That sounds like Freeview. Thankfully no one here is stupid enough to pay for that. You can pay Sky, Virgin, or BT for more channels like you would, say, Comcast or Time Warner Cable. But even their basic packages offer far more than Freeview.

>>676524239
So they have a tax for mental laziness just like with state gambling.

Noice.

>>676524417
Would it be accurate to say that in this context, 'license' is being used in the same manner in which it's used in the phrase 'software license'?

>>676524606
hah, i suppose you could understand it that way, yes!

>>676524457
again this is some bullshit, i know this woman who fled syria. She has a degree and shit but is totally illegal. Its been over a year and she works stupid shifts in a restaurant for 3 pounds and hour because she has no papers. She is still waiting on a an asylum application let alone getting fuck all benefits or a house. Benefits are a fucking lottery for everyone.

>>676523853
This is how it usually goes:

Amerifag moves to his new place

He sees ad from ISP/Cable provider for a nice bundle of TV, internet, and home phone

Amerifag is happy
Amerifag will buy the service without reading fine prints about extra charges.

3 months go by prices go up
Amerifag realizes he does not need home phone , he already has a cellphone, and with new prices it is better to ditch the bundle, and just keep TV and internet.

1 or 2 years go by (depending on the provider) the prices are doubled.
Amerifag calls service provider after long discussion, and feeling of defeat he settles for their cheapest package offered which is free broadcast and local channels

Amerifag can still watch FOX news and maybe around 10 more channels


I on the other hand just get the internet and pirate all the fuckin content.

>>676524729
Yeah pretty much, it covers the person and anyone who lives with the licence holder.

>>676524529
yeah pretty much that but this package is like a level below the 'basic' package sold here

free market capitalism let's you sell pretty much anything to any idiot kek

>>676524938
>3 pounds an hour
>pounds
we are talking denmark you fag, if you come here as a "legal" refugee they give you everything if you proove you are willing to learn the language, work and settle for a proper life here.
so gtfo with your british crap

>>676525057
kek. Thanks. A fool and their money...

I feel bad about pirating music from up and coming artists, but I don't care about TV shows that are full of product placements and often turn a profit before they've been broadcast.

>>676524938
Afaik, if you are fleeing a war zone, legally you're supposed to get citizenship.

>>676525399
Yes that is exactly why I never care for pirating TV content but independent artists like Louis C.K. I always buy.

>>676526048
I've been trying to find a way to pay Jason Bonham for Set Me Free (see Sugarshack Sessions), but the only pay site won't accept money outside USA and his website has disappeared.

>>676526307
Tried using VPN?

>>676526307
I'm looking at the sugarshacksessions site and it has a paypal donation link, it seems like they accept from any country thru that.