Is the law just?

You don't become a criminal by choice that often.

I knew exactly what was happening when they stopped saying 'illegal alien' and replaced it with 'undocumented immigrant'

Changing the language to get the outcome they want.

>>674891545
Illegal immigrants are overwhelmingly democratic voters. The democrats know this.

Therefore, the democrats constantly try to make it legal for illegal immigrants to vote. Each illegal given amnesty invalidates 1 American citizens vote.

On top of that, the democrats promise to give the illegal immigrant entitlements with the money from the American citizens whom vote they just invalidated.

If we didn't deport the illegals, and someone like Bernie Sanders gave them all amnesty. He would essentially be destroying the democratic process, along with the country. It already cost the country 100s of billions of dollars to have the illegals here. Not to mention the crime, cultural conflict etc..

The struggle between the left and right is important for a healthy government and a free society. The democrats aim to destroy that and take complete power with this ridiculous strategy, at the cost of the American people. One party having complete domination will ultimately lead to a tyrannical government and should be avoided at all cost.

We must vote for Trump.

Democracies always self-destruct when the non-productive majority realizes that it can vote itself handouts from the productive minority by electing the candidate promising the most benefits from the public treasury.

To maintain their power, these candidates must adopt an ever-increasing tax and spend policy to satisfy the ever-increasing desires of the majority. As taxes increase, incentive to produce decreases, causing many of the once productive to drop out and join the non-productive.

When there are no longer enough producers to fund the legitimate functions of government and the socialist programs, the democracy will collapse, always to be followed by a Dictatorship.

no one is illegal

>>674891808
>hurr durrr white people really want to do the shit jobs illegals do for the same pay

>>674892074
Thats funny. Any examples?

>>674892257

Roman Republic-Roman Empire

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>>674891545
Well I'm not a liberal (probably by your standards but not by any other valuable metric), but liberals generally do understand that illegals are criminals. I guess calling them "illegals" is a dead giveaway but what do I know.

As for being immigrants...no they totally are. Nothing about the word "immigrant" suggests that the person must emigrate legally, only that it is more or less permanent. Illegals literally are immigrants. They are, say it with me, illegal immigrants.

And that's the thing: although liberals do disagree with me about the overall legitimacy of the rule of law by the current government, we do agree that these people should be allowed to stay. More important is to dismantle national borders, but the more immigrants we can let in on our side, the closer we can get to that goal within a nation-state construct.

They should be allowed to stay because, with well publicized exceptions, immigrants come from worse conditions to work for shitty pay in a more stable environment. Allowing immigrants into the country gives a nation a larger workforce (as long as we must remain divided into nations). It also increases our cultural and genetic diversity, and considering the inbreeding and consumerism that's taken root here, we need the help.

So basically fuck your country, your God, and everything you ever believed in, because it's all trash.

They have so much respect for this country that the first thing they do is break the law.

We need a fucking fence...

>>674893330
Bro fuck the country, care about your family, your neighbors, maybe even your town, but the nation is a bad thing that needs to just stop.

Like would you get mad if I disrespected the Plague or smallpox?

>>674891545
Because the laws are outdated and retarded, just liek your philosiphy you christtard bitch!

>>674891808
ILLEGAL immigrants can't vote you fucking idiot

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>>674892172

You mean "illegal pay" not same pay. You are literally supporting a slave wage society. You are no different than Confederate plantation owners...you want illegals in the country so 'them darkies' can work the shit jobs for you. Why else would you want to import illiterate, high school dropouts with zero language or functional skills. Racist fuckwits like you are the problem.

>>674894482
No one said they could vote, you fucking idiot.

Read the word "Amnesty" and yes, in California they have made loopholes.

Reading comprehension 0/10

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>>674893152 hi faggot, >>674894542 goes for you too

They aren't Criminal's what is so wrong about allowing them to have a nice life. Why keep them in unliveable shitholes.

Muslim's need not apply they are the only exception they can all go extinct

>>674894763

CUCKALERT

>>674891808

illegal immigrants aren't voters you retard

>>674895103

A California state bill was just signed in to law by Gov. Jerry Brown, that will register and allow illegal aliens to vote in US Elections. The New Motor Voter Act (A.B.1461) that is now law in California, automatically registers residents of California to vote at the DMV.Oct 28, 2015

>>674891545
Fuck you.
Just because you were born in a literal heaven on earth, doesn't mean I can't go there and get my piece of cake.
Stay mad, entitled cunt.

>>674895217
Why should we have to give you a slice of our cake though? If it's our cake, we get to decide who gets a slice.

>>674895217
lol, you're in for a surprise dipshit

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>>674894763

America is full. End of sentence. The nation and the environment cannot sustain the whole world within its borders. If they want a 'nice life' they can go fuck themselves until they work the process legally. Don't like it? FUCK YOU! It is a nation of laws
Stay in your own damn mudfuck country and fix it yourselves. The only 'immigrants' America needs are doctors, scientists, and engineers. Everyone else can FUCK OFF.

>>674894482
Look up motor voter fraud anon. Also most states do not require I D to vote.

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If you do something illegal, that makes you a criminal.

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>>674895380

>voter fraud

Oh you mean that thing the retarded Republicans bitch about that has been investigated several times by independent agencies and found to NOT EXIST?

>>674895103
Read the word "amnesty", you retard. Use dictionary.com if you don't understand it.

Also, California is making loopholes for them to vote.... you retard.

>>674891808

am I the only one who is excited about the idea of a new 9/11 thanks to guys like this?

>>674895522
False

There are literally 10s of cases of voter fraud documented every decade.

>>674891545
>libtards
Fail.

>>674891545
Yes. Foreign criminals at that.

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>>674895549

>>674891808
>and someone like Bernie Sanders gave them all amnesty
Trump voters, everyone.

>>674895549

>California making loopholes for them to vote

[citation needed]

[just kidding, I know there is none, because if you knew how the voter registration system works, you wouldn't have been such a fucking idiot when you made that claim]

>>674895522
Lols. It was featured on Faux news! It must be lies! Use your brain and common sense you might learn something.

>>674893643
>but the nation is a bad thing that needs to just stop.

Hello mr Moshe Kikeberg duke of Jew York how are you today?

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>>674891808

You're so stupid it's adorable.

>>674891808
>nonironic Obama voter

>>674895785
Seriously tho, do research.

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>>674895371
Thanks for talking some truth, anon.

>>674893152
Removing all borders won't increase diversity, it'll destroy it. If the entire world became one country without arbitrary borders like you're suggesting, then all races, cultures and religions would eventually assimilate into each other and become one big jumbled mixture that everyone would homogenously conform to. How is that diverse?

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>>674891545

We need Trump in office so he can immediately remove ALL federal funding from so-called sanctuary cities and states. If the could do that for states that refused to raise the drinking/driving laws and alcohol consumption laws...then why not for this and other bullshit? Oh, that's right, because it is a boutique cause for nignogs and beannogs.

>>674892074

>handouts

The vast majority of those go to corporations in writeoff loopholes and kickbacks.

>productive minority
unemployment is 5.5%. Your argument is invalid (as well as retarded).

>as taxes increase, incentive to produce decreases
Uh, no. Quite the opposite. They start cutting corners and manufacturing overseas to maximize profit and cry crocodile tears about the taxes being too high.

>>674896178
5.5% of what? All people, including children and the elderly? 'Cause they don't work, but they still eat. Therefore, unproductive.

>>674891630
Is spics getting in for free to take advantage of America while spics doing the right thing are waiting to be let in just?

>>674896401
Unemployment is defined as the percentage of people who are able and looking for work, but cannot find any. If you want to have a meaningful discussion, you first need to understand how terminology is being used.

>>674896627
That's a different question...

And a question that wouldn't be applicable if we had looser immigration laws.

>>674896745
Don't you talk down to me, boy. Unproductive majority =/= unemployed people.

Unproductive majority = unemployed people AND children AND retired people AND anybody else unable to work and claiming financial recompense from the government.

>>674896627
Also, that's a loaded question. "America" is a construct that we merely declared into existence, and you have to make the argument that it has a purpose beyond sheer practicality... i.e. a moral reason America should exist and thus why it could possibly be "taken advantage" of.

>ITT:Butthurt whiteys trying to defend the fact they stole this country.
Kek, them indian burial grounds sure came back to haunt you xD

>>674897047
I'm not the person you replied to. "Unproductive majority" is not a technical term, it's either something you made up or somehing made up by Trump supporters in general... I can't tell.

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>>674891808
>illegals can vote
Educate yourself, dumbshit

>>674892977
Fuck em

>>674892172
Here in Washington the majority or the apple orchard arw all Mexican. It's tough work working under the hot sun. Most people would not hang working in those conditions not even me.

>>674895198

it registers ELLIGIBLE voters faggot.

it very clearly does NOT allow illegals to register to vote. stop believing the shit they tell you in the conservative 'news' you read.

>>674897378
Then what would you call that group of people?

>>674895198
>California
Who cares? California will always be blue, even if illegals were deported.

>>674895371
are you a real person or just a charicature of a retarded KKK member? i honestly can't tell

>>674897450
That's what I'm saying. Most Americans are too lazy to work in a strenuous work environment like that. But alright let's let billy Bob and Michael pick our fruit and see how long they'll last.

>>674897518
There really is no need to single out that group of people. The elderly and disabled shouldn't have to work, and children should be in school and doing children things. Criticizing these people for being unproductive is a little ridiculous.

>>674895371
what the fuck is white genocide? Doesn't the majority in power have to be a different race than white to begin a genocide?

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>>674897450

Fuck them and you all to hell. Nobody would do it for the slave wages the plantation owners want to pay in cash (off the books)...except beaner slaves. Well, gee, then no wonder illegal darky slaves are the only ones who'll do it! It is 2016 and nobody can invent a fucking apple picker machine?!?! No incentive to do so until the country stops turning a blind eye to beaner slavery. SEND THEM HOME NOW!

>>674895766
Citation was already given.

>>674897874
Who's criticizing? It's just a fact, you're the one attaching an opinion to it.

>>674897938
jesus christ dude calm the fuck down.

>>674898112
What is a fact? I'm losing track of who said what.

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>>674897645

I'm sorry I believe in the rule of borders and laws while you're completely OK with destroying the environment to import darky slaves to pick your arugula.

>>674891545
I miss when /b/ did other stuff besides talk about politics.