nigger

>>674687074
I'm sorry for whatever happened to you to make you this way.

If the choice is between Hillary and Trump, I'd prefer Trump, because of the leaked emails.

If the choice is between all the candidates, Bernie all the way.

>>674687503
I'm no Clinton fan but the Benghazi thing is so overblown.

>>674686779
Unemployment is far higher than numbers put out. It was close to 22 percent when you add in people who are not actively looking for jobs.

American healthcare did go up with obamacare, sort of. You got less bang for your buck, so equivalent coverage costed MORE.

Illegal aliens can actively commit crimes, and it does not mean that as a nation we arent decreasing. A small demographic such as that is almost insignificant if all other groups are still dropping.

In short you literally sound like some tumblr faggot shilling here.

>>674687503
The thing is that socialism doesn't work. Sure capitalism is flawed and could adopt some socialism but honestly it's not a good idea to have the us be socialist, too many people here, it just wouldn't work. Bernie is a nice guy but socialism is based on the premise of "it's possible". So does communism, it just assumes that everyone will pay for taxes, it just assumes that Americans will pay more for needless shit. Communism assumes that everyone will be equal, and that everything will be perfect, yet somehow China has billionaires. It's technically impossible to rise to the top with communism and harder with socialism. Capitalism is like natural selection, it fucking works.

>>674689176

Tell that to Scandinavia

>>674688539
>calls anon a tumblr faggot
>nitpicks the shit out of his post

Try again

>>674688539
>Unemployment is far higher than numbers put out. It was close to 22 percent when you add in people who are not actively looking for jobs.

Already addressed this with the bit about labor participation. Even if you're one of these labor participation hawks who thinks it oughta be like, 70% or some reason, the number still doesn't get past 20%. Trump said 28 or 29. Maybe 42%. Bunk bunk bunk.

Total healthcare expenditures (which are an even better proxy for healthcare cost than premiums) have gone up by between 6-7 percent annually since 2000s. Not 35, not 45, not 55.

Yes, illegal aliens can commit crimes. Thanks for that. It's pretty much a non-issue though. Just like ISIS. American death tolls from terrorism are laughably low.

Call me more names though. I'm sure that will make you look really smart this time.

>>674688539
Wrong on all counts. Your numbers are way off. I know numbers. Numbers love me. You sir are bad at numbers.

>>674689334
> it's not a good idea to have the us be socialist, too many people here, it just wouldn't work.
lel anon
google says that scandinavia in total has the population of texas roughly
the whole us is 319 million people at the same time. I think other anon wins.

He has my vote

>>674686779

im not pro trump

just anti clinton

but as it stands right now Trump just happens to be what is going to be the other choice

>>674686779
He's a businessman, it's honestly no surprise that he's lying, it's what they do and how they get rich. They build trust with other people and then stab them in the back if it gets them what they want.

If any successful businessperson tells you they made their money through honest business, there's a good 95% chance they're lying

>>674689834
What about Sanders?

>>674689624

Why wouldn't it scale?

Everything he said is baby's first economics class anyway. Who the hell seriously considers China to be communist?

He has my vote for the sole purpose of tasting liberal cuck SJW tears.

Trump is a smart guy who is playing his supporters by promising the angry grandma talking points. He is going to get crushed by Hillary.

But even if he wins the dems and GOP will impeach his ass in the first 100 days. It'll take trump a few days to give an unlawful order and he'll be out.

>>674689176
>The thing is that socialism doesn't work.

Arguments like this are kind of funny to me. It presupposes that capitalism both exists and works without being tampered with.

In fact, the world will never have pure socialism nor capitalism. It's always a mix of things.

For example, the very money that you use is not based on a free market. The laws that govern various regulations are not driven by politicians per se, but are usually co-authored between mega corporations and lawmakers.

Big banks did not achieve their authority by merit (e.g. capitalism), but are invested in by the government.

We can't have no minimum wage because the market forces that exist are fettered. We can't really have socialism because corporations and other large entities muddy the waters of control.

We can't have shit. Theories of this and that break down in practice.

>>674689947
You're on /b/ remember?

It's Trump or bust in these waters

>>674686779
he will get rid of the illegals and bring the focus back onto America instead of the rest of the world, and if you have been outside lately you will know America is rumbling into a shithole

>>674686779
> Implying there is any choice that's better than Trump.

I'm not financially illiterate or a SJW cuck, so Sanders isn't for me. Shillary has shown herself to be totally untrustworthy, so she isn't for me. Finally, Cruz is even more of an extremist than Trump, so he isn't for me.

>>674689947

do you honestly believe he even still has a chance ?

with how he got utterly destroyed just recently

Clinton pulled so far ahead

though if he does pull through thats fine, but
i do have 1 problem with him and its his age.

yes most may find that reason stupid and or silly but , he is indeed really old and a high stress job could lead to some bad times.

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Loot at the great options we have:

-a billionaire sociopath who probably has had sex with his daughter

-a woman who might actually get indicted by the fbi

-an old geezer who actually thinks we haven't heard of calculators

Fuck this shit, I'm just gonna write in Gary Johnson at the ballot and call it a day.

>>674686779
But.....but.....muh borders! He'll make deals with other countries and keep us safe! He'll build a wall and make murica great again!

>>674690218
I see plenty of Bernie fans on /b/. On /pol/ it's definitely all about Trump but they're autistic.

>>674689334
oh, you mean the region in the world with one of the highest rates of suicide and depression thanks to their political system? yeah it's great. you've obviously never lived in a scandinavian country or even read up about scandinavian history

i'm a dane, btw

>>674689176
China is not at all an example of a socialist economy.

>>674690447
You wont need to write in Johnson, he will more than likely be representing the Libertarian party in all 50 stateson the ballot.

>>674690668
Well, then that makes it even easier for me now

>>674690561
I rarely see Bernie fans here. And when I do, they're always bombarded with raids of "CUCK" and "JEWLOVER"

>>674690585
no true scotsman fallacy

try again

>>674690000

Checked

Nailed it!

>>674690352
>I'm not financially illiterate or a SJW cuck,

Lol, how old are you?

If you're old, maybe you'll get lucky and die before a machine does your job 10,000 times more efficiently than you and you'll be on your knees begging guys like Sanders for Universal Basic Income.

The future is now buddy. Better get used to it.

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Think we could plaster this everywhere and maybe ruin him or something? I assume he's fucking pissed off about it.

>>674690447

dont forget Ted Cruz

the guy is pretty much the unpopular kid in the Senate


Or Kasich, that old guy nobody knew about and is only known about because everyother person dropped out and he just stayed in for some reason

>>674689176
Norway, sweden, denmark, finland. All socialist countires, and all are to of the UN best of "almost everything" lists! Your arguement is irrelevant.

>>674690585
Honestly, China today is closer to an example of pure capitalism with an authoritarian government.

>>674690812
Cuck is so fucking overused in general. I hate that even more at this point than edgy.

>>674689947
What about him, its really not looking like Sanders can even beat Clinton let alone co-star the biggest shit slinging contest to happen in this decade.

>>674690816
Fallacy fallacy. Try again nigger. Checkmate.

>>674690990
see >>674690569

>>674690816
It's not a no true scotsman because it literally fucking is not socialist in the slightest way possible today.

Fucking Germany is closer to Socialism than modern day China, hell China probably has an even more open market than the U.S

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Bernie Sanders is a racist bigot for not demanding open borders in Israel to bring in Syrian refugees and African migrants because his supporters are little hitlers goose stepping all over the rights of muslims and black people.

>>674691150
yep you're about as smart as the average socialist

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>>674686779
You don't get it, fool.

>>674690990

they also have very very small populations compared to the US

socialism works really really good when you dont have a massive population

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>>674689176
You're a fool if you think the US is a true free market.

>>674689947
Even if Sanders had a chance I wouldn't vote for him. He panders to the economically and financially illiterate with the "Wall Street caused the 2008 financial crisis" bullshit and he's gone way too crazy with the white privilege bullshit.

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jou mad?

>>674687996
>were warned attacks were coming and did nothing
>literally lied about the cause of the attacks after the fact in order to push their agenda
>overblown

>>674691177
still a no true scotsman

>>674691236

Why can't it scale?

>>674686779
I know he is a dumb ass most of the time, he's just far and away better than the others.

>>674691177
>Fucking Germany is closer to Socialism than modern day China, hell China probably has an even more open market than the U.S
This just shows how little you know about China, Germany, Socialism, or the free market.

>>674691164
And im a norwegian, blaming suicide on political system is fucking retarded. Also danes where just voted happiest people in the world bu the UN, so that guys arguement is also irrelevant!

>>674691288
Wall Street -did- cause the housing market to collapse in 2008. Educate yourself.

you fucking nigger.

>>674691217
How is it not a fallacy fallacy argument? Explain how China isn't a good example of a socialist economy.

>>674690816
>muh logical fallacies
Fuck off Reddit

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>>674686779
>Overstated the trade deficit with China by $130 billion.
This is true, mostly because we don't know the real figure, due to the US selling China most of it's stored gold. WHy else do you think they invested so much money into our debt?
>Overstated the trade deficit with Japan by $31 billion dollars.
I honestly don't know these figures.
>Said unemployment was probably 28 or 29 percent. Maybe as high as 42 percent. The BLS's U6 measure of unemployment (which includes discouraged workers as well as those employed in part time work for economic reasons) is about 10%. Even if we assume that labor participation should be at historic highs (i.e. more people should be working or looking for work), the number doesn't even get to 20%.
This is actually true. Unemployment doesn't count those who are not claiming unemployment. It also doesn't count those on welfare and other government subsidies.
>Said health care costs were going up by 35-55 percent. Premium costs haven't averaged more than 13% in the past 20 or so years.
Lol Seriously? It may only show 13%, but that's mostly sue to insurance covering less and less than what it used to.
>Inflated the death toll due a specific ISIS event by a factor of 10.
What event?
>Reiterated that immigrants are contributing to a crime wave. Crime is at historic lows in the United States.
Violent crime is on a low, while petty theft is higher than ever.

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>>674690990
Yeah, and they let the US pay for their military security and provide stable markets. Fool.

Who's Chelsea's daddy?

>>674690569
White people are more prone to mental health issues. Don't know what to tell you. Blame it on socialism if you want to I guess.

>>674691353

because a higher population = higher entropy

>>674691495
>Also danes where just voted happiest people in the world bu the UN
woah it's almost as if the UN promotes a leftist agenda or something. denmark fucking sucks. i'm moving out as soon as possible

>>674691288
Wall Street DID cause the financial crisis. Are you fucking stupid?

>>674690447
>who probably has had sex with his daughter
>listing this as a bad thing

Do you even realize where the fuck you are? I'd fuck his daughter, too.

>>674691454
I know what a fucking free market is, and China has much loser regulations governing most financial transaction and industrial expenditures.

- http://www.forbes.com/sites/timworstall/2015/08/19/chinas-the-most-viciously-free-market-economy-on-the-planet-right-now/#5c5bd84cb87e

China has next to no regulations on almost everything, excluding anything involving the internet, military and citizens rights

>>674686779
>-Overstated the trade deficit with China by $130 billion.
who cares, he is right we have a trade deficit
>-Overstated the trade deficit with Japan by $31 billion dollars.
same
>-Said unemployment was probably 28 or 29 percent. Maybe as high as 42 percent. The BLS's U6 measure of unemployment (which includes discouraged workers as well as those employed in part time work for economic reasons) is about 10%. Even if we assume that labor participation should be at historic highs (i.e. more people should be working or looking for work), the number doesn't even get to 20%.
give obamacare time to work through the system, eventually companies will hire nothing but temps

>-Said health care costs were going up by 35-55 percent. Premium costs haven't averaged more than 13% in the past 20 or so years.
we did not have obamacare in the past 20 years. Some people think that since more people are now insured, more people will go to the doctor. There are only so many doctors to go around, if more people want to see them prices will soar.
>-Inflated the death toll due a specific ISIS event by a factor of 10.
one death is too many, fuck ISIS
>-Reiterated that immigrants are contributing to a crime wave. Crime is at historic lows in the United States.
drug cartel wars are heating up in Mexico big time, it would not be strange if some of that shit will pour over to their customers (the US). I have no problem with deporting the guy that killed a san francisco girl for the fun of it couple of months back, do you?

>>674691614
>White people are more prone to mental health issues
source: anonsbutthole.com

>>674691665

So leave it to the individual states, which have similarly sized populations.

>>674691429

which is the truth of the situation

but at the same time

makes you realize just how shit our society as become when Trump is the best and the brightest to lead us

>>674691290
I've always hated that argument. The human beings aren't illegal, but they are actively committing a crime by being somewhere illegally. I suppose this guy would have no problem with any number of people trespassing on his property, right?

>>674691587
They "let" the usa pay, good point, whos the fool? Fool!

>implying US wants to pay for someone elses shit

Dumbass

>>674690141
If he picks Palin as VP there's no way in hell he'd get impeached.

>>674691667
Great, one less sand nigger.

>>674689493
STFU FAG

Trump is the best chance we've got. Bernie will continue to get fucked over by the Democratic Party, no one can trust Hillary and Cruz is worse than Trump.

The most Trump has done is say some irresponsible shit.

>>674689176
>harder to rise to the top
you forgot to mention
>and when you get there it's not as high as capitalism
i'm ok with this, because the floor is so much higher than what capitalism allows.

>>674691517
The Federal Reserve created the stock market and housing bubble with low interest rates. Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac were giving out junk mortgages because it was a political agenda for everyone to own a home. Wall St. Is as much to blame as you are for buying a house at that time.

>>674691994
white actually but i understand the hatred for sand niggers

>>674691286
Awesome. I learned something.

>>674691891
When it means we basically fucking own them by spending a pittance on their national security? Yeah, the US wants to pay for their shit, because it means they bark when we say "frog".

>>674691517
>>674691719
Explain to me how they did it. They didn't give out the loans (local lenders) or securitize them as MBSs (Fannie and Freddy). Also, if they knew the securities were toxic, why did they hold so many of them on their balance sheets (prop trading)? If that's your opinion then you really know nothing about finance. No wonder Sanders appeals to you.

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>>674686779
I don't believe Trump is a racist or whatever. I do believe that him and Cruz are extremely bigoted against non-christian non-straight non-males, like most repubs, so that disqualifies him from my voting list

But then again, if it came down to him and shillary, I wouldn't know who to choose

>>674691771
China may have no _written_ regulations. Just try to go sell your shit there though.

>>674690569
>highest rates of suicide and depression thanks to their political system
No. Highest rates of suicide and depression, but it is not thanks to the political system. A culture of shame surrounds failure (although not as severe as what the Japanese have), coupled with the extreme darkness of the winters, which leaves you with a deficit of vitamin D, leading to depression.

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>>674691847
too bad federal law overrules state law.

>>674692062

The banks knowingly sold bogus mortgage backed securities. It was the bank's appetite for these that created the bubble.

>>674692246
yeah, fuck that strawman!!

>>674692246
No, but a conflict between nationalists and radical right-wing religous nutjobs.

Sound similar to anyone?

>>674691785
>who cares, he is right we have a trade deficit

Who cares that he overstates an issue (which isn't really an issue btw) by up to 50%? Again if you're into being scared I guess that is cool.

>give obamacare time to work through the system, eventually companies will hire nothing but temps

Lol. Pretty weak bruh. Check it (Obamacare was passed in March of 2010): http://data.bls.gov/timeseries/LNS14000000

>one death is too many, fuck ISIS

One death is too many? In the USA we kill 10,000 of our own innocents a year via drunk driving. That is a probably that could be solved tomorrow, but some dudes overseas upload a video and suddenly it is, "One death is too many". Lol. Cracks me up.

I'm so glad TSA gets to look at my girlfriend's titties every time we travel now. Really keeping those ISIS dogs at bay.

>drug cartel wars are heating up in Mexico big time, it would not be strange if some of that shit will pour over to their customers (the US). I have no problem with deporting the guy that killed a san francisco girl for the fun of it couple of months back, do you?

Legals drugs. Bye cartels.

>>674692401

No shit. How old are you? Just have the feds dictate that each state provide for irs citizens.

>>674686779
>unemployment
>10%
You really believe that shit? No, they don't count those long term unemployed or under employed. They have no way to do that. They only use new unemployment claims and census survey information taken from a small group of people. If you're working part time and didn't specifically fill out a survey saying you are under employed then you're not under employed as far as they care.

>>674692430
No they didn't, lol. If they knew the securities were bad they wouldn't have held onto so many of them (that's what caused Lehman Bros, Bear Stearns, etc. to go under). Stop drinking Sanders' kool aid, it just makes you sound like an idiot.

>>674692430
Nobody forced you to buy a home or take a mortgage with teaser rates that would balloon to something you couldn't afford.

Wall st. Didn't force anyone to take out a loan. You are really retarded. Wall St should be angry at you for being a dead beat who can't pay your loans.

>>674692601
/thread

>>674691879

You hate the argument because you aren't a blathering idiot and you know how to use common sense. The guy doesn't even understand what an illegal even *is*, or he does understand and hes being a cheeky fuck all just to make some idiotic point.

>>674692156
The US used to have laws to separate banks from investment banks.

Wall Street paid to have some of those restrictions lifted and they started playing with credit default swaps

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>>674692246
They don't let you get away.

>>674690422

Half the nation has yet to vote and most states coming up favor Bernie.

>>674692642
different states will interpret the word "provide" differently.
some will say "let's tax the rich and give it to poor/unemployed/disabled" and others will say "let's reduce taxes on the rich and hope they make jobs with their extra wealth" and others will say their own things.

>>674692145
You dont own shit yankie, you think russia, who is our neighbor gives a shit how much money you throw at us,?????? Before you answer that, just think about how much money you yanks gave to the Ukrainians before russia rubbed shit in your face, made you look weak and then tooj half their fucking country! USA is weak, and all the money in china and gunna fix that, coz lets be honest here redneck, your tough ass nation is in so much debt it is practically owned by china!

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>>674691891
So you'd let the fucking ruskies and chinks roll on everywhere. Good to know, though I could have guessed.

A fool and a cuck - that's a hard way to go through life son.

>>674686779
>>674687471
cuck

>>674690569

Greenland is what you are referring to. It does have one of the highest suicide rates in the world. Technically though, it's part of North America, it's just politically and culturally it has been tied to Scandinavia for centuries. The high suicide rates have nothing to do with politics though, and everything to do with the fact that it is a very bleak, frozen wasteland, that doesn't offer citizens much to occupy themselves with beyond heavy drinking.

Japan and South Korea also have extremely high suicide rates, and both are Capitalist.

>>674692663
Do you have a number from a source that uses more comprehensive methods and more accurate definitions than the Bureau of Labor Statistics? Care to share with the class?

Barring that, what is your estimate of unemployment? Make a wild guess and I'll explain why you're wrong.

BTW the claim of "small sample sizes" is almost always bullshit.

-Your friendly neighborhood statistician.

>>674692985
Will? That's how it is now.

That's way California and Washington 1st world states and Missouri and West Virgina are 3rd world

>>674692733
nobody forced people, but you sure got five to ten calls a week promising you unlimited loans for houses that would multiply in price in less than a year.

>>674693068
Did you even read my comment, guess not.

>>674690422
>do you honestly believe he even still has a chance ?
Yes, he's behind by 200 delegates with over 1000 left and superdelegates can switch candidates at any point
>with how he got utterly destroyed just recently
>Clinton pulled so far ahead
There was no way in hell Bernie would win the southern states, not like they matter in the election anyways because they always vote Republican
>though if he does pull through thats fine, but
>i do have 1 problem with him and its his age.
>yes most may find that reason stupid and or silly but , he is indeed really old and a high stress job could lead to some bad times.
He's 74, only 5 years older than Trump and 6 years older than Hillary

Nice try though

>>674692673

They didn't know because their greed blinded them from the obvious.

>>674692733

>prey on the financially illiterate
>blame them when the plan blows up in your face

These banks gobbled the loans up without looking at them, thry deserved everything that happened.

>>674693223
Yes, people are just clamoring too fill out the census. They can't even decide on what a "hispanic" is.

>>674692733
Yeah, just like nobody forces you to be fooled into a pyramid scheme.

Hence why they fool you in the first place, making you believe it's worth your time and effort.

>>674690561
>they actually know about politics and their candidates so their autistic
>on /b/

this board the tumblr of 4chan

>>674692911
Which is totally irrelevant for this conversation, though I do agree Glass-Stegal needs to be reinstated.

Also, do you even know what a CDS is? It's insurance on a security. What you are thinking of is securitized products like MBS, ABS, CLOs and CDOs. Also, that doesn't even come close to explaining what happened. Basically what happened was the MBSs were toxic, but the banks didn't know that. If they did they wouldn't have held onto such large quantities of the securities. What happened next was the economy slowed down (as it does, it's cyclical), so now people who were barely able to pay their mortgages (subprime borrowers) were no longer able to. Therefore they defaulted meaning that no more money was going to the MBSs, but because home values were so inflated in 2003-2006 when the mortgages were created, the banks weren't able to sell them for what they were supposed to be worth. As a result anyone who held onto the MBSs et. all got screwed (including the banks that were holding them). This caused some banks to go under, which hurt the economy more, thereby causing a vicious cycle. Saying it's Wall Street's fault illustrates a total lack of understanding of the nuances of finance. It's easy to look at the rich douchebags at Goldman Sachs and say "yeah, those are the bad guys," but it really isn't accurate. That's my gripe with Sanders. He uses Wall Street as a boogeyman just like Trump uses muslims.

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>>674687996
Yeah, I mean telling bald-face lies to to the public and grieving families for crass political purposes is no big deal. They all do it, right?

>>674693664
>implying /pol/, of all places, is a legitimate political forum
>implying anything on 4chan isn't just a "nigger nigger nigger" post with some sweet sprinkles on top to make it look attractive

>>674693258
That's called a bubble and it was caused by the Federal Reserve. They created the stock market bubble in 2000 which collapsed and They then reinflated another bubble but this time in housing. The government created the problem and they are trying to create another right now with near 0% interest rates. I suspect auto sales are in a bubble. A lot of broke motherfuxkers with new cars.

>>674693467
They didn't know because nobody knew, lol. Even the ratings agencies whose job it is is to know certified these securities as investment grade (with some tranches up to AA-AAA).

>>674692601
Do I think that china is taking the US for a ride in the trade agreements? Yes I do. who cares what the actual number is?

I don't care how many people are employed, I care about how many are full time employed
http://www.advisorperspectives.com/dshort/updates/Full-Time-vs-Part-Time-Employment
People used to have careers, now they are going to get to 40 and have nothing to show for it.

I am glad to hear the ISIS videos crack you up, me too. Still Fuck ISIS. Fuck the TSA too

I have no problem with legal drugs. Until you make that happen keep the cartels out

>>674692601
>thinking legal drugs gets rid of the cartel

you know you have to be 18 to be here right?

>>674692673
not that anon, but,
>If they knew the securities were bad they wouldn't have held onto so many of them
>(that's what caused Lehman Bros, Bear Stearns, etc. to go under).
>Stop drinking Sanders' kool aid.

wtf you talking about nigga? the banks knew they were doing high risk shit, and they were taking on higher and higher risk for more and more money. then when shit went south they're like "aw, fuck, time to bail kek"
do you honestly think someone who makes millions, especially a fucking (probably greedy) businessperson is going to use their own money to save their sinking company?
no. they won't. they'll watch it burn, keep what's in their pocket, and find new work. it's the rational thing to do.

you should watch the documentary "inside job"

>>674692963
Allegedly. Even Bernie upset Hillary in Michigan.

>>674693876
what

>>674693462
hes also a weak, psychotic old communist supporting jew that was a yuuuuge fan of the USSR and didnt have a job until he was 40. yea im good

Does anyone actually want Hillary?

>>674693467
>These banks gobbled the loans up without looking at them, thry deserved everything that happened.
Except for the part where they got bailed out and then it was business as usual.

Yes, people shouldn't take out loans they can't afford, but the reason banks charge interest is because they take on counterparty risk. They're on the hook if the borrowers default. They should have done better underwriting. Fact is though that they purposely did bad underwriting because they were going to package the loans and resell them anyway.

Moody's and S&P gave the bonds the stamp of approval without a second though.

Investment banks created the derivative investments that allowed these loans to be traded.

And we pay these clowns a fortune and promote them to positions of power and influence.

>>674694081
Yeah, I don't know what it's trying to say either. Trump's wall is pretty much what it looks like right now, but that's not stopping anyone from getting in. Bernie's wall makes no sense

>>674694344
>Trump's wall is pretty much what it looks like right now
you're dumb.

>>674693846
>gives zero evidence

legitimate threads are met with legitimate responses, bait and shill threads and met with appropriate responses.

Just because they disagree with you doesnt mean their wrong or stupid, but i know thats impossible for liberals to understand

>>674693531
Still waiting on your superior unemployment data.

>>674694030
Erm, what?

If there are no illegal drugs to trade in, where would a drug cartel get its funding? Would you rather buy your drugs from a clean store or from a street salesman claiming cheaper prices (mainly because they pay no taxes, since it's illegal trade)?

>>674693245
That has more to do with the local state economies than anything else dude. Shit California itself has a better economy than most countries in the world all on its own

>>674689176
Funny story, the Middle Class came about because of the US adopting Socialism for the only time in its history. As soon as we tore it apart under Reagan, the Middle Class began to erode

>>674694271
id rather have hillary then crazy bernie.

>>674693223
Approximately 60,000 households are eligible for the CPS.

I'm sure statistic wizards will claim less then .01% of the population is all it takes to get a perfect sample of the work force.

>>674694030

Legalizing weed in a few states killed the Mexican suppliers. I don't see why other drugs wouldn't have the same effect.

>>674693888
>They created the stock market bubble in 2000

No, all the dotcom startups caused that, when they began to fail due to poor management, and completely fucktarded business models.

>>674690820
>Don't grasp basic economics
>Guy arguing for free market
Kekadoodledoo

>>674694610
it hasnt stopped weed dealers in places like colorado, why would it stop them anywhere else? drugs are so easily accessible that people will go for the lower prices

>Erm, what?

cringey as fuck

>>674694538
>Just because they disagree with you doesnt mean their wrong or stupid, but i know thats impossible for liberals to understand
Yet, here you are, calling this a bait and shill thread.

>>674686779
Blame the people who gave trump this information.

Do you think he looked at the books? no! some dumb fuck gave him this info.

Don't talk shit about our next president. You god damn hipster.

>>674694796
no it didnt

>>674694030
It creates legal competition. Tell me how this doesn't eventually create a better production/distribution model. I agree that they'll have the upper hand in the beginning because their infrastructure is in place, but come on.

>>674694653

Hillary is like W on steroids. Who the hell wants her in charge of middle east policy?

>>674694032
>the banks knew they were doing high risk shit, and they were taking on higher and higher risk for more and more money
You literally just described one of the fundamental tenets of finance. More risk = more compensation. The securities were no supposed to be that risky. Higher tranches in MBSs (for instance) were supposed to be very low risk because you'd still be paid back even if ~70% of the loans in the pool were defaulted on. The problem is that nobody knew they were as risky as they were.

> do you honestly think someone who makes millions, especially a fucking (probably greedy) businessperson is going to use their own money to save their sinking company?

No, but they are accountable to the shareholders. Therefore, they don't want to fuck up the company they work for.

> you should watch the documentary "inside job"

You should read literally any book on finance that is educational.

>>674694464
I live in Arizona, a border state, with family in Mexico that I go to see on a yearly basis

That is how the wall looks. It's literally a wall with barbed wire on the top and making it physically bigger will not stop anyone that really wants to get in.

>>674694615
West Virgina has great logging and mining industries. Too bad the mining and logging corporations fucked everyone in the ass. Who let them do that?

>>674694895
i was talking about /pol/, why the fuck would anyone talk about anything serious on this shitstain of a board?

>>674694946

no u

http://www.latimes.com/world/mexico-americas/la-fg-mexico-marijuana-20151230-story.html

>>674695063
Because, believe it or not, if you filter out the obvious trolls, even /b/ can hold a serious conversation.

>>674689603
dad?

>>674694980
i never said i wanted her. Hilliary would just keep the status quo, bernie would fuck over the 100 years of generations with his retarded communist policies. So if i had a gun to my head id pick hillary. She also looks stronger than that dinosaur

>>674689176
>socialism is based on the premise of "it's possible"

No, Socialism is based upon "Hey, you've got more than I do! That's not fair!!!! Waaaaaa!"

>>674694946
I've been smoking weed for 15 years and haven't seen a single nug of Mexican brick weed in 10.

If the cartels are still selling it's all grown and handled in the US.

>>674694344
The joke is that Bernie would build a Berlin-Wall style wall to keep Americans in, like the USSR did. AKA someone who can't differentiate between different forms of government spouting bullshit without properly researching it.

>>674695051
The people of West Virginia. Sounds like they need to clean house with their Congress representatives

>>674689603
Gtfo, Trump. This doesn't involve you

>>674693068
You are a bad person and you should feel bad.

>>674695024
hes building a new, ridiculously big wall, not that bitchass wall

>>674694797
You are completely illiterate on monetary policy and the boom bust cycle.

Bubbles are a *symptom* not the cause of a bubble.

>>674694653
You like your politicians bought off huh? At least she doesn't flip-flop or anything, kek

>>674695225
not if your the only one who isnt retarded. Go somewhere else for that stuff

>>674695024
People don't realize that there are some parts that have a wall already. Trump's wall would just extend those (and do absolutely nothing about security)

Bernies wall is obviously built by mexico to keep murricans from overflowing into their wealthy by comparison country

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>>674695397
Well that's a compelling argument.

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>>674686779
who here still belives in politics?
they all lie, all of them , even the good ones trying to make a change.
its total bullshit in its entirety.

>>674695317
this is all irrelevant because trump is most likely going to piss off every republican in Washington and work to get weed legalized. He knows how to make money, and thats a cash cow just waiting to be unleashed

>>674695306
Socialism is based on the idea that by giving to the poor (rather than forcing them to take it by force), we reduce crime.

In case you're wondering, it has worked really well in some parts of Europe, where the poor (and the black) aren't made to fend of for themselves.

>>674695635
>belives in politics
Are you suggesting you don't? Politics isn't real and we are arguing about unicorns and leprechauns?

>>674695404
>making it physically bigger will not stop anyone that really wants to get in
>hes building a new, ridiculously big wall, not that bitchass wall
You didn't read, did you?

>>674695524
literally never said i liked her at all, this is why this board is cancer. Everyones 14

ITT: liars calling liars liars about liars

STFU all of you

>>674695635
You raise a good point. I don't, hence I'm supportive of anarchist movements.

>>674695794
If I say "I don't believe in Trump", do I claim that Trump doesn't exist? Or that I don't think he will deliver what he promises?

>>674695822
so how are they gonna get in? most of the spaces they come in through has no border or is a fucking fence. No one is hoping that wall wen they can go a couple miles over and hop a fence

>>674695589
People act like either Bernie/Trump would completely destroy the country single-handedly. I guess nobody paid attention in their government classes to know about checks and balances

>>674695794
yes it exists .

but it exists in falsehood, it exists as a lie for real change , to essentially stop, real change.

>>674695290

Why would you want to keep the status quo? We have the worst income inequality and social mobility of any western country. Do you really think the government shifting its priorities from defense spending and corporate welfare to social safety nets would make the country worse?

>>674695290
>bernie would fuck over the 100 years of generations

Bernie! Destroyer of checks and balances! The US government has been total gridlock for the past 10 years.

>>674694030
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Alright pal.