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Europe is falling. Islam is it's conqueror.


Bismillah ir-rahman ir-rahim

Throughout history we have learnt one thing:
The only good westerner, is a dead westerner.

These "people" are the scum of the earth, literally preying on everyone else to fund their life of opulence. So far there has not been a brave enough contender to their vast empires except for Islam. Islam was the only culture to conquer them before, but it was our mistake as good Muslims we are, to let them live, thinking we can guide them toward righteousness. This led to them uprising and using their lust for violence to gain back their independence and return to their warmongering ways.

This time, the Muslims will not repeat this mistake. We have licked our wounds and realized that you cannot reason with such vile beasts. They MUST be tamed or eliminated.

It is for this reason that Allah has ordered we fight those who fight us, and kill them if need be.
Our Lord in all his wisdom wise, right. If they were hostile once, they should be killed for they would have had no remorse killing you.
It is us as Muslims who failed to heed the call and placed more emphasis on pleasing Allah with mercy... but such mercy is not applicable the the western animals.

If you cannot stand Islam, leave Europe now. Your doom is at your doorstep. Perhaps you can flee to America, but Islam will soon rise there too...

>La illaha illallah Muhammad'ur rasullallah
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>>676752382
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>>676752382
>Europe is falling. Islam is it's conqueror.
>Bismillah ir-rahman ir-rahim
>Throughout history we have learnt one thing:
>The only good westerner, is a dead westerner.
>These "people" are the scum of the earth, literally preying on everyone else to fund their life of opulence. So far there has not been a brave enough contender to their vast empires except for Islam. Islam was the only culture to conquer them before, but it was our mistake as good Muslims we are, to let them live, thinking we can guide them toward righteousness. This led to them uprising and using their lust for violence to gain back their independence and return to their warmongering ways.
>This time, the Muslims will not repeat this mistake. We have licked our wounds and realized that you cannot reason with such vile beasts. They MUST be tamed or eliminated.
>It is for this reason that Allah has ordered we fight those who fight us, and kill them if need be.
>Our Lord in all his wisdom wise, right. If they were hostile once, they should be killed for they would have had no remorse killing you.
>It is us as Muslims who failed to heed the call and placed more emphasis on pleasing Allah with mercy... but such mercy is not applicable the the western animals.
>If you cannot stand Islam, leave Europe now. Your doom is at your doorstep. Perhaps you can flee to America, but Islam will soon rise there too...
>>La illaha illallah Muhammad'ur rasullallah

Lolmudslime
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>>676752382
Goddammit shitskin,
Gtfo my b.

I will fucking stab you in the face.
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http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/625021/Baba-Vanga-ISIS-Islamic-State-Muslim-Jihadi-Extremists-Syria-Europe-Iraq-Caliphate
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>>676752490
You're a faggot.
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We are already preparing your next generation.
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>>676752859
shut up trap
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OP is the faggest of fags
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>>676752382
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>>676753432
And breeding with the locals to produce more Muslims.
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>>676753432
Get the fuck out of my country
you'll get the fuck out of europe in a little while.
Just wait ;)
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The westerners will sit back and watch.
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>>676753596
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>>676753945
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>>676752382
>Dirty Arab detected
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>>676754047
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Only white pussy mudslims will be having is white pig pussy you fucking cunt.
Even look at the arabic word for allah it literly is a penis with a ballsack.. and the penis is so small it isn't even longer then the balls
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>>676754159
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>>676753432
بسم الله
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>>676754246
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Nope. The west has already won the culture war and despite any sort of territory gained in the middle east, nor attacks in western nations, the devout will become idolaters of celebrities and fast food just as the puritans who first came to the US are no more. Most Muslims around the world already have much more liberal views on their religion, the Muslim women of Indonesia and such while still wearing bedsheets don't wear a full on burka hiding their faces. The cultural revolution seen in Iran before it became more extremist will come back, and no matter how hard extremists fight they have already lost.
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>>676753877
We've been waiting for decades now... How do you think we have so many 2nd and 3rd generations and large mosques all over your cities? It's clear you aren't going to do anything.
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You're gonna need larger bait pal.
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>>676752382
tryhard muslims ftw
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>>676752490
fag
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>>676754337
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>>676754368
Burca isn't even a thing made for religion, denim jeans are literly older then the burca
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>>676752382
I'm muslim and Islam is a religion of PEACE. Don't lie /b/ro!
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>>676752382
Just wait until white people get REAL pissed off, then see what happens...
>whites love a good genocide
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>>676754368
>while still wearing bedsheets don't wear a full on burka hiding their faces
>thinks they caused that to happen
Full face veil is not required in Islam. These women are simply following Islam as taught to them.
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>>676754412
You know that the jews once said that they wou;d conquier europe? Gass what happened to them?
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>>676754771
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Deus vult anyone?
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>>676752382
Guess what? This is the only thing your future would look like
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>>676752382
>>Throughout history we have learnt one thing:
>The only good Paki, is a dead Paki.
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>These "people" are the scum of the earth, literally preying on everyone else to fund their life of opulence. So far there has not been a brave enough contender to their vast empires except for The Bush Dynasty. The West was the only culture to conquer them before, but it was our mistake to let them live, thinking we can guide them toward righteousness. This led to them uprising and using their lust for violence to gain back their independence and return to their warmongering ways.
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>This time, the Pakis will not repeat this mistake. We have licked so many goat penises, s and realized that you cannot reason with such vile beasts, so it is permissible to just rape them as the prophet Mohammed would have done
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>It is for this reason that Trump has ordered we fight those who fight us, and kill them if need be.
>Our Lord in all his wisdom wise, right. If they were hostile once, they should be killed for they would have had no remorse killing you.
>It is us as infidels who failed to heed the call and placed more emphasis on pleasing Allah with gold-painted macaroni pictures, ... but such mercy is not applicable the the Paki pedophiles
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>If you cannot stand Islam, punch a darkie in the face, right fucking now, or forever remain a faggot. Your doom is at your doorstep. Perhaps you can flee to America, but Islam will soon rise there too...
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>>676754942
They own you, They own America, They got the Americans to save them, they spread the "muh 6 million" hoax to get special treatment and you cannot insult or hurt a Jew because antisemitism is worse than raping dead babies.

They did pretty well.
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>>676755606

Your mob know all about raping dead babies, Abdul
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>>676755535
As usual, the westerner makes adjustments to the intellectual property of others and claims it as their own...
Nothing has changed with these apes in centuries.
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Oh no guise. The GayRabs are going to throw rocks at our aircraft carriers and jets. Iz scared.
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>>676754047
I used to have this epic pic on my HD but lost it, thanks for reposting it up and spreading the truth about Mohammed the pigfucker. Fuckin' saved!
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>>676754904 but still in the picture they wear many colors and other things which bring identity to something which is supposed to equalize from that. Self-expression through fashion is already there. The consumption of media as globalization becomes greater will only the western culture will act as like the bombs on these buddhist statues, but break down social-norms of the religion instead.
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>>676756002

Tell us more about how islam invented fire, agriculture, and the wheel, Abdul.
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Lol, i'm moving to germany, these pakis and shit aren't that bad you just a fuckin xenophobe. They aren't taking over SHIT. I can walk in my hometown in germany with no fucking problems. They dont bother anyone, and plus the turks make great kebab. Now i'm not saying I like mudslimes, because I don't. But all i'm saying is it's not that fucking bad jesus christ, stop watching so muuch media.
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>>676756310
You're a poof, m8, a dirty little poof with an HIV-positve Paki boyfriend
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>>676756161 I a whole word
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>>676755757
Oh no, we get young white teens to stroke our dicks because they hate school and would rather be with us drinking vodka and smoking weed... the toddler-raping is all you, Peter.

http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/uks-worst-ever-paedophile-ring-drugged-babies-before-livestreaming-their-rapes-dark-web-1519422
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>>676753877
lmfao, I'm take this bait. But srsly nothing is going to happen. WOWW you killed like a few hundred people in the last decade in europe. NEWSFLASH SANDNIGGER THERE ARE MILLIONS IN EUROPE KILLING A FEW HUNDRED WITH SOME SHITTY BOMBS AINT GONNA DO SHIT.
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>>676756569

Do wot, Ram-Jam?
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>>676756541
Yeah, well maybe that statement was gay, but it's nowhere near as bad as people paint it out to be. These fuckers will be gone anyways soon, and they wont change shit. They have been saying there going to something for years. Everyone knows all the kebab makers are lazy shitheads that talk and talk but they wont do anything. Look at their countries back home, if they can't even spend their own time on their own infrastructure, what makes anyone think they can take over a 1st world country with advanced military. yeah no.
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>>676756569
lmfao, sounds like your fucking some real quality meat. are you kidding me, your really that excited about banging someone thats "white" get over it dumbass people fuck other races all the time it doesn't mean your taking over anything.
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>>676757087
No, but I have more respect for a Muslim girl... White girls are whores and will be treated as such.

Also, when there are "good" ones who adopt Islam and do good deeds, we will marry them and prevent them from spawning another generation of western filth to produce glorious Muslim babies instead.

The fact that you cannot see your peoples own demise is why you are losing.
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Друг,этих людей не отучить от их культуры.
-Братья из России
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>>676752490
thread/
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We're even in your based Russia.
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>>676752382
Islam is collapsing in on itself, the recent rise in Islamic terrorism supports that theory.

Most Islamic people are tired, tired of sharia law, tired of muftis and what have you dictating where the new levels of violence are coming from and especially tired of Muslims killing mainly other Muslims over reasons that have no bearing on them.

All people desire a life of relative peace and opportunity, your shithole countries used to offer that until conservative islamist assholes, in their fear of losing control, shoved it all down the shitter.

Your Muslims will westernize, I meet more and more muslims these days who, even if they self-identify as such, resent the lable and the fearful small-mindedness it represents.

You keep promising blood and bombs, we've got cash, games and bitches, take your pick.
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>>676755606
Actually, antisemitism is acceptable in Sweden if it comes from a muslim.
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A friend, too many Muslims in Russia.
Sorry for my english, I'm from Russia
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Invade countries that doesnt even defende. They welcome you, give you money. Call yourself conqueror kek.
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>>676758490
>You keep promising blood and bombs, we've got cash, games and bitches, take your pick.
For as long as you have all this extravagnace through dropping bombs on the Muslims, our retaliatory bombs and revenge bloodshed will never cease.
You cannot kill us, loot from us and try to entice us to lose our faith and dignity with the spoils of those conquests.
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>>676752382
fun fact, we dip our bullets in pig blood
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>>676752382
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>>676759286

You muslims have been killers since the days of Mohamed, so perhaps 'retaliatory' is not the most appropriate term to be using.

Just for the record, Mohammed was a pedophile gay.
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>>676754337
This is in Moscow
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>>676759809
>Mosquecow
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>>676759286
Please, at this point the bombs we drop are costing us our extravagance, not causing it.

Personally I want the bombings to stop, I see no value in putting in effort into destroying countries where the local population is already doing such a good job of it.

The importance of oil is dwindling, even major companies are already funding alternative sources of locomotion, of which electricity seems to be most promising.

Our extravagance is built on trade and cheap labor, not resources.
And, oh shit, muslims are pouring into Europe in unprecedented levels, but still a vast minority. All we're going to be victim of is even more cheap labour, and an enchanced ability to keep business going even during aundays and christian holidays.

Europe isn't being invaded, it's being chosen over the horror of living under strict Islamic law.
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>>676760469
Fucking /thread omg
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>>676753883
>some dude actually spent time in photoshop to put type out his cuck fantasy
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>>676752382
u keep tellin yourself that, u stupid americunt nigggot
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>>676760634
Yes, and atheism in modern Europe is causing too much liberalism and tolerance. Notice how the countries with populations where majority identify themselves as atheist/non-religious are the most cucked and most destroyed by socialism and open borders?
Sweden and Germany come to mind.

Return to Jesus! Fight Islam! Deus Vult!
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>>676752382
Hadith Number 16245, Volume Title: “The Sayings of the Syrians,” Chapter Title: “Hadith of Mu’awiya Ibn Abu Sufyan”:

“I saw the prophet – pbuh – sucking on the tongue or the lips of Al-Hassan son of Ali, may the
prayers of Allah be upon him. For no tongue or lips that the prophet sucked on will be tormented (by hell fire)

He (the Prophet) lift up his (al Hassan’s) shirt and kissed his (little) penis..”
روى أنه صلى الله عليه و سلم قبل زبيبة الحسن أو الحسين
He (the prophet) kissed the (little) penis of al Hassan or al Husein
رأيت النبي صلى الله عليه و سلم فرج ما بين فخذي الحسين و قبل زبيبته
He (the prophet) put Husein’s legs apart and kissed his (little) penis

Another Hadith. Majma al-Zawa’id, Ali ibn Abu Bakr al-Haythami, 299/9 مجمع الزوائد لعلي بن أبى بكر الهيثمي

رأيت رسول الله صلى الله عليه و سلم فرج ما بين فخذي الحسين و قبل زبيبته
رواه الطبراني و إسناده حسن
translated into English: “I saw the Messenger of Allah pbuh putting Husein’s legs apart and kissing his (little) penis.”

Related by Al-Tabarani
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>>676760469
>it's being chosen over the horror of living under strict Islamic law.
If we're running away from it, then why are we slowly enforcing Sharia in Europe and America?
We're simply protecting ourselves from your bombs by setting up shop in the one place where you'll worry about collateral damage... next door.
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>>676752382
>Bismillah ir-rahman ir-rahim
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>>676761907
>we
Shut up, whiteboi.
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>>676753649
These are two Bengalis
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>>676761907
Muslims aren't doing that en masse.
There are several neighbourhoods in Europe that were zoned in such a way that they are now almost entirely muslim.
Those areas are impoverished and notoriously lawless, so a power vacuum has been created and filled by local Imams.

However, those zones are not places non-autistic muslims are gravitating towards, the opposite even. Most of the muslim population here in the Netherlands are trying real hard, especially the women, to get educated and move to areas of less squalor.

And having halal food in our grocery stores is not sharia law, it is goddamn democratic capitalism. Want it? Got the cash? Here you go.

No less pork and beer is being sold.
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>>676762624

Muslims are Pakistani rats that all smell of shit, rancid lamb meat, curry powder, and the sperm of one trillion Jews.
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>>676761366
I'M CRYING HAHAHHA
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>>676762940
I see you're well-versed in sociology and global politics.
Keep up the good work, your unfettered words of wisdom continue to push the world forward and enlighten us all.
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>>676763327

I learned all about your pedophile death cult after the 'Danish Cartoons', and I can quote large chunks of the Koran and Haddiths to suit the occasion.
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>>676763490
Nigger I'm a mixed race atheist Dutchman with just about anything ine BUT Arab or Pakistani.

You don't know shit, and it's showing.
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>>676763740

Cool story, Abdullah
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>>676763490
No you cannot because you have never read the Quran. You can only copy/paste ominously cropped and cherry-picked quotes that are made to look manacing from your favourite kufar website.
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>>676761666
Gtfo satan
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>>676763327

Only homosexuals are well-versed in 'sociology' - homosexuals and fat ugly birds.
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>>676763928

I OWN the koran (Penguin version) and know more about it than an illiterate sandmonkey.
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durka durka mugaba adin
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>>676752382
bad bait
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>>676763873
Propaganda much?
Jihad to defend the Muslim people, Slavery as a means to pay of debt and paedophilia by today's standards are the only true things in that picture. The rest is not just lies, but extremely frobidden.
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>>676752490
Faggit
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>>676764240
Fag, any book can be cherry picked for fucked up morals.

Did you know that J.K. Rowling personally endorses not only zoophillia, but rape? Umbridge, a clearly defined antagonist, is taken away and presumably raped by centaurs, her experience is mocked by the heroes.

She also personally endorses nazism through the acceptance of house slytherin in the books. All major players in the book are pure English heritage, so she endorses racism too.

Etc. Etc. Even dumbshit kids books can be quoted to endorse horrors.

I know about muslims from talking to them and the majority are less involved in the books than you are, they don't frighten me.
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>>676764535

I don't see many Christian, Buddhists, Jews or any other religion practicing these actions in 2016.
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>>676753883
nice tits
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>>676764240
Nice strawman argument by a traitor there. During the Paris attacks, they literally shouted out
"This is for Syria" while opening fire at the Bataclan. The western spin doctors will lie and say "they did it because Quran tells them to kill people for the sole crime of being infidels", then this cunt believes them because they give him nice welfare cheques. He is worse than a westerner.


As for you, you're just making things up. Deep down you wish your society could fight in defense of their people like the Muslims do, instead you have cucks and feminists.
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>>676764931

The koran itself TELLS US where to 'cherry-pick' - these are the 'Verses of abrogation', where Mo's relatively peaceful (Meccan era) fan-fiction is disregarded for more recent and violent (post-Medinan era) verses.

If the koran is telling me outright what to 'cherry-pick', then how can I be criticized for this?
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Fucking cock sucker mother fucking fuck nigger
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>>676764957
>Christian
Us bombing the shit out of brown people everywhere, directly funding violence "one nation, under God"
>Jews
Subjugation of peoples in the Gaza strip, pure Jewish nation
>Buddhists
Constant attacks, back and forth, between buddhists and muslims in Myanmar.
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>>676765235

Well, why weren't they fighting in Syria? Muslims just want to kill when there's no farm animals around to fuck.
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>>676752382
Islam isn't conquering shit OP. The west is cucked and committing suicide.
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>>676764957
That's because you aren't paying attention. I cannot be blamed for your ignorance
http://www.mintpressnews.com/the-forgotten-conflict-the-world-ignores-genocide-in-the-central-african-republic/204753/

>inb4 hurr durr dey was only doing it in response to Muslims
>ISIS are only doing it in response to Western armies
>Hamas are only doing it in response to Israeli theft and aggression
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>>676765606
>implying they aren't fighting in Syria
Are you this dense?
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>>676752382
Fuck you puritain filth. Islam, christianity, and all other abrahamic filth will be burned in the fires of progress. Hail satan mother fucker.
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>>676765321
Because you remain to think all muslims are devout followers of the koran.
This creates a narrative which conflates the attitudes of the average citizen with the most fundamentalist reading of the texts.

Most muslims I know drink me under the table, and sell me my weed, which they also smoke till their hearts content, the rest I know, I know from school and I have never heard them invoke Islam without being directly prompted to.

That's why they don't frighten me. Fundamentalists do, all of them, but not the average muzzi.
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>>676765480

'We' are bombing brown people? Cool.

Gaza? Jewish, always has been, always will be.

Buddhists attack muslims? Cry me a river, Abdul, your mob must have started some unholy shit. Keep huffing your jenkem...
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>>676766048
Cool counterargument.
Ah shit, there is none.
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>>676766004
>Most muslims I know drink me under the table


No wonder, you're a chinless poof. Have you checked your arse after these bacchanals?
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>>676752382

So.. you're like.. 3-5% in most EU countries and you think you're going anywhere?

Roflmao.. try it. Seriously. Try coming out w/ that bullshit in a more massive scale. See what happens.
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>>676766223
Your argument being?
If they fucked me in my smelly hairy ass, that'd prove their lack of devotion to the koran even more.

Try again.
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>>676766423

Mohammed kissed his own grandsons' cock, and you look upon him as the pinnacle of human morality.
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>>676765321
You are a confused westerner. I am talking about when you "spin verses" to mean something totally different by selective cropping, with no mention of the preceding sentences.

Eg.
>"Kill them where ye find them..."
"Them" is almost always spun to mean all non-Muslims, when anyone who has actually read that chapter will no otherwise.
You selectively pick the lines of the chapter you want to lie to the fellow idiots around you instead of reading for yourself.
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>>676766571
Not a muslim, retard.
Hasidic jews kiss the penis of a freshly circumcized boy, Catholics basically built their church around buggery and apparently Muhammad liked boy cock too.

Still, all three condemn any sexual contact between grown men immensely.

Ball's still in your court.
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>>676766868

>
You selectively pick the lines of the chapter you want to lie to the fellow idiots around you

Sounds like your 'Takiyyah', Ram-Jam.
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>>676766048
>Buddhists attack muslims? Cry me a river, Abdul, your mob must have started some unholy shit. Keep huffing your jenkem...
Ah, so it's justified if you started it? Okay, Belgium attacked ISIS first, therefore Brussels was justified.
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still waiting
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>>676767042
>outsmarted
>muh Taqiyya

The irony is, even the very concept of Taqiyya itself is spun using the very process of deceit I was trying to explain to this thick-skulled westerner. Not to mention the majority Sunnis don't believe in it.
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>>676766868
*know
>I hate English sometimes
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>>676757590
>produce glorious Muslim babies instead.
:)
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Do muslims have an inferiority complex when it comes to the west?

Despite being without Allah we have brought the world into the modern age, eradicated several diseases which were devastating the human population, crafted a world-wide information superhighway, brought up living standards in many countries ten-fold and have even gone to the moon. How can Islam even compete?
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>>676764931
wrong, the quran is very clear in it's wording. the horrible things are just in there, just read the damn quran. there is just no room for interpretation.
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>>676765480
funny, mynmar - that's it? compared to muslims peresecuting non-muslims in muslim countries, it's not very much, is it?
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>>676766004
i have experienced quite the opposite. all muslims i have known have this deep aversion against the west and it's people and i can feel it. also, they want their own group to rise - they are just plain nazi-facists.
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>>676769468
It isn't, but it's not unique to muslims.
Muslims face a lot of violence and persecution in India too. Most Islamic violence is towards other muslims, the region is destabilized, has been wartorn for a long time. I think that does more to engender violence than a religion.
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>>676768285
Every culture had their Golden age, the Wests came very late and was born out of conquesting the entire world and as such they had the benefit of:
>1. Having all the knowledge of all great civilizations before them
Yes, the Englishman didn't dream up all the maths and science one cold winter morning at tea and scones.

2. Globalisation and slavery
When you have millions of others doing your manual labour at the threat of violence and you loot the countries you invaded, funding for the next big idea is never far...
Also, mass globalisationnmeant that wise men from all cultures flocked to study in the greatest empires... as mentioned above, your conquests helped you acheive that.

>Economic Monoply
Many other countries can compete, not just Muslims, but you dictate the way trade is done and rewrite the rules with double standards so that you always win.

But your civilization, as all great ones before it, is coming to an end, and it will be Muslims who take over. It has been prophecised.
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>>676767027
> Catholics basically built their church around buggery
what are you talking about?
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>>676770040
Then I guess we can empirically conclude all sorts exist, and we both hang out in places where one goes but not the other.
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>>676752382
LOL@muslimtroll :D
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>>676770261
>let's build a church full of men who may not marry, and go through enormous lengths to cover it up when one fucks a little boy for literal centuries.
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has anyone ever descrated a quran here
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>>676770672
NICE BALLS CHIMPO
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>>676770576
The koran isn't sacred to me to begin with, how will I desecrate anything by mistreating a random book?
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>>676770672
Not risking it. Nice balls, chimpo!!!
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>>676767504
literally every muslim i have known wanted to deceive me about his real thoughts and had no problem with lying to me
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>>676770747
it is sacred to so many people thereby mistreating is is desecrating it
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>>676770672
Nice balls, chimpo.
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>>676770922
>Paranoid schizophrenia
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>>676770329
yes, either that, or you are lying
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>>676760634
well idk life is pretty common in Bosnia after war ended people are pretty nice no1 cares what is your religeon plus it's not very true that all muslims hate other religeons in Quran it's written that a man who kills other man because of their beliefs won't even smell heaven
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>>676770672
Nice balls ya got there, chimpo!!!
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>>676771002
Have you ever desecrated it?

no

end of story
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>>676769099
>kek
Being this stupid. It's not about interpretation, it's about comprehension.
Omit important words or a sentences from a paragraph and you can really get it to say anything you want.
For example:

>"there is just no room for interpretation."
>hurr durr anon doesn't want people to speak foreign languages!
>See? NO INTERPRETATIONS! Obviously he is talking about foreign language interpreters and nothing else! He's a xenophobe!
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>>676771183
Or you are, in which case we cannot conclude a single thing.

It's hard to have an argument if you assume I'm trying to outright deceive you.
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Nice try Chabad Lubawitsch.
German Reich gonna rise again, your plans will fail.
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>>676770922
That goes even against your own claims because "Taqiyya" is a Shiite concept. 90% of the worlds Muslims are Sunnis.
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>>676752382
the middle east sucks, you know it. so youre trying to drag the rest of the world down to your shitty level.
under the banner of "religion"
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>>676764535
jihad ="struggle"
kampf = "struggle"
parallel?
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>>676770540
every organisation where people come together (even family) there is sexual abuse. people just get worked up over this because it's the organisation that preaches the opposite and talks about moral behaviour all the time.
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>>676771355

Cool story, Raul:


Here is 5:32 in its context, with all words included (emphasis mine):
On that account: We ordained for the Children of Israel that if any one slew a person - unless it be for murder or for spreading mischief in the land - it would be as if he slew the whole people: and if any one saved a life, it would be as if he saved the life of the whole people. Then although there came to them Our apostles with clear signs, yet, even after that, many of them continued to commit excesses in the land.
Salient points:

1 - It explicitly states that this was a commandment to the Children of Israel, i.e. the Jews! This is not a commandment to all people, and it certainly should not be misused as if this is Allah's command to Muhammad's people.

2 - Even if this were a command to the Muslims, there's still an escape clause: "unless it be for murder or spreading mischief in the land." If someone is "spreading mischief", he can still be killed. Now let's think for a moment. The would-be Times Square bomber considers Americans to be spreading mischief in Palestine and around the world (practically all Muslims I know think this, even the ones who are American citizens). Accordingly, even if this verse were to apply to someone like Faisal Shahzad, he would still be justified in his slaughter.

As if this weren't obvious enough from the verse itself, the Qur'an further expounds this point in the very next verse. 5:33 says
The punishment of those who wage war against God and His Apostle, and strive with might and main for mischief through the land is: execution, or crucifixion, or the cutting off of hands and feet from opposite sides, or exile from the land: that is their disgrace in this world, and a heavy punishment is theirs in the Hereafter.
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>>676771675
that was what i wanted to say - also sunnis are liars
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>>676769468
thing is before in it was the same in Rome Christianity was prosicuted but later it became their official religeon :P thing change for better or for worse idk why people hate muslims I think Islam is a religeon or peace maybe because I live in a country where there are like 0.2% muslim but I support all religeon I support all countries even Israel
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>>676752382
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>>676771823

Just a little bit.
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>>676771179
funny how muslims are paranoid all the time with their funny conspiracy theories about how always the west is to blame for everything that goes wrong in their countries.
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>>676752382
Praise Alah. Here's our prophet giving a holy blowjob to another great prophet. I kept it tasteful. Mohammed is fucking good with his tongue!!!!
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We are waitin Ahmed
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>>676772378
my name is Abdo ;3 is that good enoght :3
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>>676770672
Nice balls chimpo
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The white race shall belong to the religion of Islam, the Christian days are over! Allahu akbar!
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>>676772198

It's usually 'Da Juice' when they are not blaming them or us 'Western Imperialists' for Mohammed being a pedo cunt and writing all the pish in the koran.
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>>676772524
you forgot Takbir :(((
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>>676772524
She is dead now
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>>676772524
get out pupina
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>>676772489
Well there is no difference between abdo or ahmed as long as they are impaled on a 8 m hussar lance
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>>676752382
Kill yourself.

Oh, you probably will do it with your bomb vest.
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>>676752382
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=quLG1u7dJtQ
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>>676771390
interpretation is comprehension; how does the quran omit any word from...like...it's own text?
plus, your example is retarded, because the context makes it clear, what is meant. just read the damn book
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>>676752382
>Islam is FAIL, and Trump shall conquer them all.
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>>676752382
Haha fuck Europe!
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>>676752382
Ameen, New generations of westerners are corrupted. it's either the Middle-east or the SEA that will conquer the world for the next 600 years.
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If you start getting more any more serious, the Europeans will elect leaders that will nuke and bomb the shit out of the middle east and have every muslim found in europe gassed.

Just after very few terrorist attacks in Europe because of the migrant crisis, people are already voting for parties that strongly oppose muslim immigration who smile awkwardly when they are asked whether they would open fire on women and children trying to cross the border.
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Why do we even reason with a muslim?

A muslim is a oblivious pig and will stay that way.
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>>676771397
difference is, you want to protect your stupid religion. i just see empirical data - muslims are lying about the quran and their culture all the time, just look at how they argue (distorting everything so it remains moral). they have this stupid honor thing. i'm not trying to convince you, because i know it's not about truth for you. but just see the empirical data - muslims are liars, especially when it comes to their religion and even their own thoughts and past behaviour. it's called induction
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>>676773216
>how does the quran omit any word from...like...it's own text?
The Quran doesn't omit. Stormfronters omit and make memes with these deceiving "quotes".
God, you're stupid.

>plus, your example is retarded, because the context makes it clear, what is meant
Ah! So you see how important context is? So read the damn book in it's entirety and stop spreading out of context lines. Take your own advice.
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>>676752382
I don't give a shit. Muslims and Christians are both just heretic Jews, and you are all invaders of Europe. The mortal empires of man will rise and fall, with the ideologies and religions that cling to their empires, and balance will be found in barbarism and tribalism.
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>>676774546
Maybe I should make this a signature: I am not muslim.

What I'm hoping to prevent, even though I know this argument won't do anything, is the increasing divide between camps to the detriment of the middle.

I don't see a they when I speak to a random muslim on the street, I see someone else who just wants this shit to de-escalate.

Islamic terrorism, its effects on the world and the reaction towards it is a major player, along with Russian agression and Western debt/meddling are a major factor in what I see as an inevitable march towards a third world war, only because people pay no more heed to voices just pleading for peace.
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>>676763873
>Burning People alive
>Rape
>Oppression of women
>Slavery
>Honor killings
>Hostage taking

What's your source? Fox news?
This is the reason your generation will fail, it's filled with ignorant retards that believe everything that's being shown on the news and the internet.

I really hope Trump takes over the USA and see it fall piece by piece to get rid of the cancer.

This is why South East Asia will raise again.

>Fuck a girl in US at the age of 17 "disgusting/monster/burn him alive"
>Fuck a girl in the age of 13 in spain
"it's cool"
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>>676774082
>asked whether they would open fire on women and children trying to cross the border.
So westerners will resort to terrorism too when bombs hit their families? We aren't so different after all, are we?
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>>676775245
Varg, fuck yes
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>>676775663
Probably not. The difference is that you can't win.
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>>676775120
i have read the quran in it's entirety. but if i want to argue, of course i can not talk about the whole text. but as i have read the whole quran i clearly got the message like:
"Fight those who do not believe in Allah or in the Last Day and who do not consider unlawful what Allah and His Messenger have made unlawful and who do not adopt the religion of truth from those who were given the Scripture - [fight] until they give the jizyah willingly while they are humbled."
and
"Men are in charge of women by [right of] what Allah has given one over the other and what they spend [for maintenance] from their wealth. So righteous women are devoutly obedient, guarding in [the husband's] absence what Allah would have them guard. But those [wives] from whom you fear arrogance - [first] advise them; [then if they persist], forsake them in bed; and [finally], strike them. But if they obey you [once more], seek no means against them. Indeed, Allah is ever Exalted and Grand."
that's what i read out of it. plus the slave thing and the chopping body parts off thing and so on and so on. tell me, how can you read this shit differently?
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>>676771397

real 4chan convo between myself vs average muslim, a few months back:

>Me: Mohammed = pedophile
>Muzlim: He is not! He never done anything like that. Prove it, Jew!
>Me: How about Aisha? He fucked her when she was nine!
>Muz: YOU TELL ME WHERE IT SAYS THAT IN THE KORAN!
> Me: We BOTH know it's not IN the koran - it's in the Haddiths
> Muz: Ah - but it was all different back then...

See how he first denied the ISLAMIC TRUTH of Mohammed and Aisha? How he tried to wriggle by saying 'It's not in the koran'? And how, when it's been demonstrated that we both are aware of the passages, that he now shows he knows about Aisha and now tries to play the underage sex thing all down?
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>>676775598

Koran & Haddiths are the only recognised sources in islam, so I stick by them, but what's your take on the two guys from out of town who were killed and tortured by Mohammed for stealing camel urine?
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>>676775598

no point whining about ages of consent when Aisha was nine at the point Mohammed put his goat-dung-smeared cock in her.
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>>676776033
Real conversation between you and a single alleged muslim.

People have been misidentifying me as one this whole thread, what do you know about him, objectively?

Maybe he was cpt Mecca, but it's not much to go on, is it?
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i made this
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>>676775377
really, i want to get to know this wonderful muslims you are talking about. i grew up with a lot of muslims and was "friends" with some. sure, you can say you talk to muslims about this on the streets all the time. but if you come to this conclusion, i really have to say, i don't believe you, because me and everybody i know see the opposite. even muslims talk about how the media shows muslims inaccurately by implying there is a moderate and peaceful version of islam. there isn't, because quran isn't. also, i hear arabs whining all the time about how the west won't help them against assad
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>>676775598
>This is why South East Asia will raise again.

KEK
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>>676776730

I know he'd fuck my pet rabbit given half a chance.
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>>676772378
Is this Polish airforce?
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>>676775919
>how can you read this shit differently?
YOU are the one that made it different through ommission and removing the context. There's really only one way.

>"Fight those who do not believe in Allah or in the Last Day and who do not consider unlawful what Allah and His Messenger have made unlawful and who do not adopt the religion of truth from those who were given the Scripture - [fight] until they give the jizyah willingly while they are humbled." [9:29]
Typical dumbfuck westerner who cannot practice what he preaches. You said context was important and that you should read the damn book.
That is from 9:29. Ever bother to read the context with regards to where this is applicable? How about THE VERY FIRST SENTENCE OF CHAPTER 9?
>9:1 "[This is a declaration of] disassociation, from Allah and His Messenger, to those with whom you had made a treaty among the polytheists."
>to those with whom you had made a treaty among the polytheists."
>The chapter is with regards to a specific time, specific place, specific people
No wonder the west is falling. They are growing more and more anti-intellectual.
lrn2read.
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>>676777646

So - the koran IS violent.
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>>676777085
Where you from?
I'm Dutch, the Turks and Iraqi's I know are generally really chill here, Moroccans are a mixed bag.

I don't always grill them on religion so that might contribute, few talks about I did have were pretty interesting, but I'm not a believer, so I don't worry about religion for the most part.
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>>676752382
Good Muslims don't have lust for violence?
This is fishing bait.
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>>676776357
Find me a source for FGM.

Bonus points - find the verses that allow burning people (dead or alive).
>It is specifically forbidden
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We seriously are fucked, if white people have sex with any other race their kids aren't white.

We can only exist if we remain pure.
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>>676777876
Not moreso than the Bible or Torah as so many try to claim.
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>>676771975
what is your point with rome?
also, i don't believe you support all religions and all countries. quran clearly says you have to oppose christianity and judaism. so, you can't support islam and christianity/judaism
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>>676778248


Abu Hurayrah said: I heard the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) say: “The fitrah is five things – or five things are part of the fitrah – circumcision, shaving the pubes, trimming the moustache, cutting the nails and plucking the armpit hairs.”
Bukhari 5891; Muslim 527

Bukhari (11:626) - "The Prophet said, 'No prayer is harder for the hypocrites than the Fajr and the 'Isha' prayers and if they knew the reward for these prayers at their respective times, they would certainly present themselves (in the mosques) even if they had to crawl.' The Prophet added, 'Certainly I decided to order the Mu'adh-dhin (call-maker) to pronounce Iqama and order a man to lead the prayer and then take a fire flame to burn all those who had not left their houses so far for the prayer along with their houses.'" Muhammad orders his men to burn alive those who do not present themselves at the mosque for prayer.
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>>676752382
>Europe is Falling
I doubt Eastern Europe will ever fall to mudslime sub humans like you
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>>676778400

Oddly enough, I never heard of Jesus or Moses fucking kids, or raping women
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>>676770672
NICE BALLS CHIMPO
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>>676752382
Put a sock in it, nigger.
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>>676777646
so, what is there to interpret - seems very clear to you. also, of course, i could post a lot more passages and you know that. also you could answer about how islam suppresses women. is there something to interpret falsely in the passage?
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>>676778248

Ibn Ishaq 764 - After amassing a powerful army, Muhammad sent his forces to take the peaceful farming community of Khaybar by surprise. In the aftermath, he was dissatisfied with the amount of plunder and felt that the town’s treasurer, Kinana, might be holding out on him. He had the man brought to him:

When he [Muhammad] asked him about the rest he refused to produce it, so the apostle gave orders to al-Zubayr bin al-Awwam, “Torture him until you extract what he has.” So he kindled a fire with flint and steel on his chest until he was nearly dead. Then the apostle delivered him to Muhammad bin Maslama and he struck off his head.”

(As a happy side note to the story – Kinana's untimely death left a beautiful young widow named Saffiya, whom Muhammad was then able to “marry”)
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>>676778248
Abu al- Malih ibn `Usama's father relates that the Prophet said: "Circumcision is a law for men and a preservation of honour for women."
Ahmad Ibn Hanbal 5:75; Abu Dawud, Adab 167.
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>>676778400
The New Testament doesn't encourage violence. The European's are welcoming because of their Christian values; they are ingrained in their culture.
But a dragon can come out if they are pushed to far.
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>>676752382
whatever queer
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>>676778905
>still taking verses out of context
>tries to change topic from violence to sexual ages of consent
Typical deceiver of the west. Lies and double standards.
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>>676752382

Listen here littl faggot watcha thinking? U cannot stopping ur wifes to be bitches & u want to stop luxury in occidental countrys?
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>>676779528

So do you insist these verses are non-existent? I think the recent news reports have shown, plainly, the 'context' in which to view this pedo death cult operates.
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>>676779482
>The European's are welcoming because of their Christian values
The most cucked countries have a majority identifying as non-religious or atheist. Sweden and Germany for example.
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>>676770150
the region is wartorn, because muslims fight each other - over religion
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>>676779528

>Lies and double standards

Says the crown prince of Takiyyah...
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>>676779819
>So do you insist these verses are non-existent?
Wat? How autistic are you?
See >>676777646

They CLEARLY do not mean what that propaganda pic is trying to imply.
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>>676780076
>Takiyyah
I'm Sunni. Hit and miss.
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watch this lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-sIDphS0R6c

good luck muslim pigdog
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>>676780125

Repeat the word 'context' until you're blue in the face, Abdul, Mohammed is a pedo and a gay, and that's the scout leader for YOUR troop of monkeys.
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>>676780222

HIt and miss? Do Sunni drink camel piss too?
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>>676780076
>Calls others a liar
>posts pic with BLATANT LIES
Are you even trying?
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>>676778400
christians don't act the bad stuff out (even jews don't). also, the doctrine of jesus is very different to the old testament (even if jesus himself says it's not so). christianity is more about understanding - the new testament has only abstract ideas and people shall get the idea and act in this spirit. in islam there are concrete rules, what to physically do, so you don't have to think for yourself
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>>676780464

Aye, the koran Is lies, and the prince of lies is Satan.
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>>676779915
Christian values are still in their core, their "collective unconscious."
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>>676780378
See my argument
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>>676775120

Westerners are growing dumber by the year. When given practical examples, they see the value of context and "you're retarded" if you can't see it.
When reading the Quran, suddenly you become retarded for trying to use context as a scapegoat.

Go back to your genderfluid rally, dumb wetserner.
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>>676759286
You're sandbox is one button-press away from being sent to the stone-age.

It's just not PC to do so...
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>>676780464

If it's all lies, why aren't muslims everywhere meditating peacefully, being all tranquil? 1400 years of misery is what your pigfucker prophet brought into this world.

Those verses are gen-up, faggo, read 'em and see yourself for what you truly are - a piece of goatshit.
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>>676779528
it's always the same thing: when somebody criticise quran, then muslims will always say, you can't read that out of context. that would mean, NOBODY could EVER criticise the quran, because you can't always cite the whole quran. the quran is very clear - more than any other religious book. it says, kill the infidels, suppress the women and protect your religion by any means necessary. i can't cite the whole quran now, but read it and you will see
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>>676781199
good point
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>>676781127
> genderfluid rally


I'm not a degenerate homosexual, as Mohammed proved himself to be, when he sucked little Hassans' miniscule cock.
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>>676756122
The picture you posted, with those 4 pictures, isn't Muhammed it's Imam Ali.
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>>676781511

All cats are black in the dark, plus - the time for cultural sensitivity is well over. Fuck Mohammed.
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>>676780606
>christianity is more about understanding - the new testament has only abstract ideas and people shall get the idea and act in this spirit. in islam there are concrete rules, what to physically do, so you don't have to think for yourself
I'll agree with you there, but people ignoring the bad parts of their religion doesn't make the religion better, it makes the people better.

>in islam there are concrete rules, what to physically do, so you don't have to think for yourself
Yes, the rules in the Quran are not really all that bad, it's the adding on and incorporation of primitive Arab culture by their scholars that fucked Islam over.
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>>676752382
>So far there has not been a brave enough contender to their vast empires except for Islam.
If you guys actually knew how to govern, it would have stayed together. As far as huge empires that were built shortly and quickly go, you get beaten by the Mongols, who were originally Pagan. Also, name one good act for all of humanity under Islam that the Europeans, Asians, Persians or Indians hadn't beat you to.
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>>676758439
>it must be russia because of the Russian signs
Chechnya, Kazakhstan, etc. have always been Muslim, they aren't taking over anything, they've been there forever, allowed to live there and practice.
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I will never worship Allah.
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>>676781925
Like when those Chechnians killed 300+ schoolkids in Russia?
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>>676758490
>Most Islamic people are tired, tired of sharia law
than those people are literally not Muslims, that would be like a Christian "being tired" of the 10 commandments.
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>>676781932
Good for you! Here's tits:
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es salaam aleikum

the fact that people actually believe ISIS/IS are muslims makes me cringe so much

Its all a conspiracy and every non muslim is falling for it.

I'd suggest every non believer to read the Quran in english and actually evaluate whats being read instead of blindly speaking

لا إلَهَ الا اللّه
اللّهُ أكبر
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>>676782075
lol if you think Beslan was a successful operation you're retarded
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>>676777646
>>676779528
>>676781127
it's always the same thing: when somebody criticise quran, then muslims will always say, you can't read that out of context. that would mean, NOBODY could EVER criticise the quran, because you can't always cite the whole quran. the quran is very clear - more than any other religious book. it says, kill the infidels, suppress the women and protect your religion by any means necessary. i can't cite the whole quran now, but read it and you will see
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>>676782177

'Smite at their necks and the tips of their fingers' speaks loudly enough to me, you piece of muslim excrement hanging off a Jewish lepers' dick
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>>676782177
Shut up stupid
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>>676782215

I mentioned this to explode the myth of peaceful Chechens, Ram-Jam
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>>676782126
Christ "replaced" the 10 Commandments, they're Mosaic laws not so much Christian laws.
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>>676782177

>just read the koran you infidel, youll understand


Nigger, i have read it, you see when i went to the good school i did, i read the koran and the bible, and by far the koran is more fucked up.

oh and i have plenty of muslim friends, and i know how they think, even if they are nice people, they still dream and long for the day when everyone is muslim.

what you faggots dont grasp tho, is that when a country is mostly muslim, the country goes to shit. and why on earth would you want that?

everyone will soon have enough of your shit, and we will go fucking breivik on your asses.
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>>676781884
christianity = new testament. also, you can call the actually extisting christian communities "christianity" - yes it's a better religion over all if you compare it to quran AND the actual muslims.
yes, arabic culture may be even worse or whatever. but it's not arabic culture that make muslims bad. it's the quran. the horrible stuff is in there; no doubt about that
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