Most British law is based on the magna carta written 500 years prior to that.... so stfu brit fag

Because from birth they're told it's fucking perfect and everyone will hate you if you don't like it. It also allows them to justify whatever the fuck they want even when they contradict themself. It's easier to accept what you're told rather than go through the hassle of thinking.

>>672064702
You're thinking of the bible there, Anon.

There are these great things called amendments that help to modernize constitutional laws that no longer apply or need to be modified in order to stay relevant with present-day society.

yes they should change their constitution several times, just like advanced coutries such as brazil, venezuela and other south american paradises

>>672065092
Ahahah I'm dying

>>672064252

only a tiny amount of it is still British law, basically you're entitled to trail by jury, the church is a thing and the city of london can do what the fuck it wants

the rest has been removed and is ignored

>>672063971
I think they are alright and not faggot like op.

Perhaps so but have you ever thought about like this.... U.S.A U.S.A U.S.A

>>672063971
The point is, when you research it deeply you find it becomes more relevant with each passing year. It was designed to be a timeless document. Don't you think they considered the future when writing such a document? It is unreasonable to assume they did not consider 20, 50, 100 or 200 years into the future.

With the exception of quartering soldiers inside private homes, every other principle & maxim is still relevant, some of them even more relevant today than they were then.

The men that wrote it studied human nature & the history of civilization. They were probably the wisest group of people in the last 1000 years.

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>>672065299
Dubs don't lie

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>>672063971
DURR PLANT

>>672065358
I wish you actually were dying faggot

>>672063971
I've wondered this, as well. It's sure doing he a lot of good at the moment. Without it, there wouldn't be as many safe spaces or tumblr pages on why you should check your privilege.

>>672063971

Eurofag is mad he can't have a gun

>tfw the constitution is 250 years old
>tfw it was written by old white guys
>tfw they owned black people
>tfw their associates coined free speech
>tfw free speech is in our constitution because the patriarchy put it there
>tfw we need to repeal the constitution because freedom of speech hurts muh feels and its the current year
>liberal logic

>>672063971
Same could be said of the bible. So answer that OP.

>>672063971
>apply this logic to the bible, quran
>shitstorm inc
>religion destroyed

>>672063971

It's the only thing that prevents us from nuking you Eurotards back into the stone age.

>You're welcome!

>>672063971
Simply put, it was designed to protect the citizen against the government. Over time the government seeks more control so they write amendments. The Idea being to remove protection from the government. Gun control is anperfect example. The right to bear arms is to enable the citizens ti rise AGAINST the govt if need be. So you enact gun control laws to register individuals, then laws to restrict carry, then laws to prevent use - Maryland. Wake up....

>>672066591
>trump or clinton
>calling us tards
GL with your shitty country going into a civil war and becoming a 3rd world country, or well, even more then it already is.

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>>672065921
Indeed.

>>672063971
Sit down Ahmed

>>672066809
Wtf is Maryland?

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>>672063971
>Don't you think people have gotten smarter since then?
You obviously know nothing about what the constitution is then.
>it is fucking ridiculous to use a 250 year old document to justify anything in 2016
you are literally retarded

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>>672065921
>he doesn't realise the founding fathers didn't believe in binding the next generation and intended it to expire every 50 years

>>672063971
>It was written fucking 250 years ago.
And?
>Don't you think people have gotten smarter since then?
Hell no.
>For fucks sake 80 years before that they were burning people for being witches.
Ok, but what does that have to do with the Constitution?
>My point being it is fucking ridiculous to use a 250 year old document to justify anything in 2016.
Not if it was a good document, mostly aimed at limiting the powers of government.

>>672066870
>eurofag economics is on the verge of collapse

GL with your bankrupt cuckville union faggot.

>>672065921
>>672066904

>Soldiers

keep in mind that can mean electronics too now, with either mainframe/cloud or local data analytics...with no skinny commando or reprogrammed killing machine to stop them

>>672067168
Actually what do Quakers have to do with Americans? Those were Brit colonies weren't they?

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>>672063971
I can't believe eurotrash are this fucking retarded

>>672063971
3 constants in human history anon

Death (war is under this for you fallout fans)
Taxes
Homo sapiens

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>>672063971
I see what you did there

successful troll is successful

>>672063971
And now you know why people become supreme court judges, so they constitution can be changed when needed. Any other basic us government stuff you need explained? Or is it nap time now?

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>>672063971
HAHAHAHAHHAHAHA we don't care what you think you scumbag foreigner. Why not worry about your 3rd world shithole you call home and maybe you can get on our level

Because if you assault me, I will murder you. Pussy.

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>>672066870

constitutions are what keeps societies as political entities together. no legit scholar believes that shit like the constitution is some kind of eternal wisdom or whatever. but still it's what people are being told because it's practical. otherwise everybody would bitch around all the time, trying to find a majority to change the basic rules and processes of the system as it is.

problem is, that strategy worked way too well in the united states. people follow that belief so blindly, and certain politicians know how to use that, opportunities to move forward are effectively blocked

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>>672063971
Well most of these Ameritards still read the Bible, which is much older than their constitution.

>>672063971
We need to get rid of freedom speech, so we can legally shut OPs mouth.

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>>672063971
Nigga are you serious? The US Constitution was directly inspired by men like Locke and Rousseau, groundbreaking Enlightenment thinkers responsible for modern western government. The concept of a social contract is not only still relevant, it's withstood the test of time and continues to be an elegant solution to the age-old issue of government.

Listen commy fag that old piece of toilet paper hasn't meant shit in my country for a long fucking time do your fucking homework our Gov. Your Gov. Neither fucking one of them run our respective countries fucking uneducated dumbass

>>672065349
>venezuela
>bankrupt
yeah, it's working so nicely in these countries. shut the fuck up.

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>>672068169
Plus if it kept changing, Shit would go from bad to worse.

Modifications are necessary...but you should keep the foundation

>>672064252

Based. Yes.
Are you trying to imply they aren't updated.

>>672068500
Do you know what sarcasm is?

>>672067156
No they did not

>>672063971
well is still works doesn't it? Why the fuck would we change something that works you liberal cunt

>>672063971
Every country's constitution is what keeps your government from sticking its dick further up your ass. If you can't understand the basic principle you deserve to get fucked.

>>672068777
Nice trips

>>672065349
>cherrypicking

>>672067156
No just Jefferson. Everyone else thought it was a pretty cool idea to make it last forever and give a means to amend it.

>>672068658
if the early humans had been republicans, we'd still live in caves and shit from trees

yea i know, that's kind of appealing to you, right?

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Murricans:
"You can't change the 2nd amendment."

>amendment

>>672063971
>doesn't know about amendments

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>>672069199
>amending an amendment

>>672063971
>Don't you think people have gotten smarter since then?
[citation needed]

>>672063971
It's the Conservatives. Literally any progressive sees modern irrelevancy. Low IQ god-fearing conservatives lack the mental capacity to handle anything outside their own personal day to day culture. Ironically is this trash that votes more even though they are outnumbered politically. You just need to wait for these old white racists who can't understand gays and iPads to die out and slowly be replaced by inevitable progress.

>>672065921
>They were probably the wisest group of people in the last 1000 years

>Not knowing Newton died in 1727 and Galileo Galilei 8 January 1642. Albert Einstein April 18, 1955, Princeton, NJ.
These wise gentlemen are the wisest.

OK, so Benjamin Franklin was one of the greatest americans to walk the face of the earth too.

>>672064252
so this justifies America's defence of the constitution, eh?

I've done a bad? SO HAS HE!

>Britain didn't even do a bad fucko

>>672063971
Do the words '27 Amendments' mean anything to you? Anyways, I agree it could use some updates, along with the bill of rights, (for example, when the 2nd Amendment was written, there was no police force, hence the 'organized militia,' but pro-gun amerifags will never admit it.)

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americans dont know the constitution, OP, and neither do i. knowing the constitution is for retards. knowing the way of the law is for the sentient.

>>672065362
>eminent domain
>grand jury
>trial being free
Yeah got completely thrown out.

>>672065921
>With the exception of quartering soldiers inside private homes

How would you get those four horses inside your home anyway.

>>672063971
gawd, who's that jug-faced minger?

Because the Constitution was written by our lord and savior. Fucking pleb.

>>672069295
>implying it can't be amended again

>>672070079
>implying anarchy

>>672063971
so like the british parliament you mean?

>>672063971
That's why a huge portion of the country doesn't consider the constitution to be that important, except for a few established human rights, but the extremely vocal conservative minority is afraid that rewriting or updating it would bring in a fascist dictatorship that they would be on the wrong side of (it's projection, because THEY would found a fascist dictatorship based on racism and homophobia if they had complete power)

>>672063971
How many of these shit posting threads are you going to post faggot?

First of all our constitution has been ammended several times. The Bill Of Rights ( the First 10 amendments) can not be and for good reason. As far as gun deaths that is a retarded argument. Kids are not dying because everyone can own guns. They die because crazy evil cunts manage to get hold of fire arms. More people are beaten to death and die in car accidents. So let's outlaw cars and fists. It makes no sense. SO you have just over simplified your statements with faulty logic and unfounded rhetoric that you receive in your country. Which i assume is somewhere in Europe? Which of course has no problems what so ever? So in short OP since you no nothing about America or what it is like to live here. GO FUCK YOURSELF YOU DUMB CUNT!

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>>672065921
White man always take and never give thanks.

http://iipdigital.usembassy.gov/st/english/publication/2009/06/20090617110824wrybakcuh0.5986096.html#axzz41tDvaQ3J

http://www.nativeamericancaucus.org/content/tribal-sovereignty-history-and-law

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>>672063971

Wow, criticize anything about the US and you are guaranteed replies on your troll post...

I am saying this without sarcasm OP, GR8 B8 M8..

>>672070433
>That's why a huge portion of the country doesn't consider the constitution to be that important
>huge portion
I think you mean college aged children who's only real life experience is the inside of a liberal teacher's classroom.

>>672069199
>good luck getting a 2/3 vote on that
>>672069295
>18th amendment
>21st amendment

>>672063971
There's two kinds of countries. One that put men on the moon, and all the others. Deal with insignifcant shithole dweller.

>>672069295
Nigga they amended the 18th amendment. Remember that next time you gun fags want a beer.

>>672063971
Please tell us what would you change or did you never read it

>>672069343
You're a fool, and will have to leave moms basement sometime.

>>672070433
>it's projection, because THEY would found a fascist dictatorship based on racism and homophobia if they had complete power

so fucking true

FORMAL NAME

INFORMAL NAME

% ALL DEATHS
(1) Diseases of the heart heart attack (mainly) 28.5%
(2) Malignant neoplasms cancer 22.8%
(3) Cerebrovascular disease stroke 6.7%
(4) Chronic lower respiratory disease emphysema, chronic bronchitis 5.1%
(5) Unintentional injuries accidents 4.4%
(6) Diabetes mellitus diabetes 3.0%
(7) Influenza and pneumonia flu & pneumonia 2.7%
(8) Alzheimer's Disease Alzheimer's senility 2.4%
(9) Nephritis and Nephrosis kidney disease 1.7%
(10) Septicemia systemic infection 1.4%
(11) Intentional self-harm suicide 1.3%
(12) Chronic Liver/Cirrhosis liver disease 1.1%
(13) Essential Hypertension high blood pressure 0.8%
(14) Assault homicide 0.7%
(15) All other causes other 17.4%
daily reminder more people die of liver disease than guns in the U.S.

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>>672070864
>mfw don't own a gun, don't drink beer and not a nigga.

>>672063971
"Don't you think people have gotten smarter since then?"

>can't even do basic arithmetic
>is living fucking proof contrary to his own statement

Yeah OP, nice try, but you're still a fag

>>672065921
Wisest group ? you speacking about murica idiot... if they were so wise why is your country so shitty ?

>>672071321
Yet still not smart enough to understand how amendments work

>>672066870
A civil war would be welcome. Every now and then you have to clean up your country from the lowlifes. In the civil war it was slavery. This one will be degenerate unamerican lowlifes.

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>>672063971

>Don't you think people have gotten smarter since then?

No.

If it still works fine then who gives a shit

>>672066809
Nowhere in the constitution does it even imply that the right to bear arms was meant to enable citizens from overthrowing their government if need be.

An oppressive government is technically not possible with a democracy. The constitution protects your liberties and if anyone tries to fuck with them they're voted out and replaced by someone who wouldn't want to opress.

What you're talking about is treason you dumb nigger. A "well regulated militia, necessary to the security of a free state, the right to bear arms shall not be infringed" which was amendeded before 1800 when indians raided towns and the country was in danger of foreign invasion and uprisings from peoole who doubted the legitimacy of the federal governments power. They didnt draft the 2nd so some neckbeard retard with a clean record could buy a gun and march to a government building and shoot it up because his autistic ass thought he was being repressed.

Kill yourself with your constitutionally protected firearm faggot.

>>672065349
>brazil, venezuela and other south american paradises
Priceless.

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>>672063971
Holy fuck I understand this is bait but you don't even give an example of which part you think is outdated. Stupid fucking foreigners...

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>>672063971
So this was some troll to reveal a modern document you think is better?
Oh wait that's right you didn't include one because America is the best.

Wait til OP finds out most United Statesians base their whole lives on a set of document over 2000 years old that weren't even written in North America

>>672070433
The point of the constitution is to protect from the "fascist dictatorship" you mention, whether it is "liberal" or "conservative". The founding fathers realized that there had to be checks on government power, which is why we have 3 branches and the Constitution. Can you blame the conservatives for treasuring their freedom to bear arms? No, not anymore than you can blame women for treasuring their constitutional right to vote, or the criminal for treasuring their constitutional right against self-incrimination or unreasonable searches.

>>672071917
What a moron... This guy... Leaders were suppoer to serve for 2 years and be done... Not Career politicians!!! And try reading it in context to the age faggot... State power! Malitianof what?? THE STATE! So states could protect themselves from an oppresive government... Are you for real!!!

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>>672071768
>This one will be degenerate unamerican lowlifes.
So liberal progressive democratic socialists.

>I'm very ok with this

>>672063971
We don't blindly defend the Constitution, we defend changes to the constitution which are our constitutional rights and cannot be changed!

>>672072317
>implying the Earth isn't flat

>>672071917
What a moron...

>>672072348
>United Statesians
>Americans

>>672072348
>Wait til OP finds out most United Statesians base their whole lives on a set of document over 2000 years old that weren't even written in North America
And? Is your point that many Americans are religious? Why don't we ever see people bashing India, the Middle East, or Latin America? Religion is popular. Getting less so every day in the States, but still. I don't have a problem with it, as long as I don't have to subscribe.

>>672072135
Citizenship should be reserve only if your parents are citizens... This born in the US is outdated...

>>672071610
Please explain to me how your country is any better.

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This thread needs a little freedom

>>672072489
You are the problem with America. This is not a disputable fact.

Look at the major revellions during the rarly days of America. The Whiskey rebellion, Shays rebellion. People thought that banks and taxes were bullshit and fought back. What happened? Franklin called it treason and washington came out of retirement to personally put down the rebellion.

The 2nd is widely viewed thru time to be a mandate of militias, now called the National Guard. If an invasion by indians or foreign army occured a bell tower would ring (there was and in many cases still are bell towers in most towns on the east coast and midwest) and everyone ran to their armory and got guns to defend the city. That is a "well regulated militia" you fucking dumb ass moron. Go jerk off to your trump pictures and let the non retards speak.

I agree that career politicians is not a positive thing but guess what? VOTE THEM OUT THEN YOU RETARD! Oh is everyone tok retarded to follow along? Campaign then. Do something.

Again, there is no fucking evidence at all that the 2nd was meant to allow citizens to overtrow an oppressive government. None, nada. Lobbyists made that up to scare you and sell more guns.

>>672073147
was put in there for negros and native americans.

>>672073147
Anchor babies wouldn't be an issue if the border were secure and the executive branch was actually following the law.

>>672072846
Americans = Canadians, United Statesians, Mexicans, Brazilians, Peruvians, etc.

>>672063971
cause it works

source: most powerful country in the world

>>672073680
Real easy to vote while people with guns are telling you to get on cattle cars isn't it.

>>672072971
You missed the obvious point in favor of the strawman

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>>672073680
>everyone ran to their armory and got guns to defend the city. That is a "well regulated militia"
...the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed
>I'll highlight the key parts for you, you absolute retard
...the RIGHT of the PEOPLE to KEEP and BEAR ARMS shall not be infringed

pic related you short sighted shitbag

>>672073879
WRONG. The word American exclusively means citizens of the United States now. We redefined the word to refer only to ourselves.

>>672068500
sarcasm you fuckwit

>>672073680
>Again, there is no fucking evidence at all that the 2nd was meant to allow citizens to overtrow an oppressive government.
It's not that hard to imagine that some of the writers of the Constitution might have envisioned such a scenario. After all, what was the Revolutionary War if not an overthrow of an oppressive government? Look, no Supreme Court yet has agreed with you. I'm sorry, but you're stuck with gun rights for now.

>>672063971
It's not like politicians and lawmakers abide by the constitution anymore. It would be better if they did.

>>672074201
"A well regulated militia, necessary to the security of a free state"

You forgot that part retard

#context

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>>672074203
Kek

>>672074361
>not that hard to imagine that the founders might have

Now youre making shit up

>>672073680
This anon knows his shit

>>672073680
>the national guard
There a govt funded branch. A militia is a local unit, if funded would be from local taxes. Once the government steps in its not a militia. Jesus Christ.

>>672074677
>Foreign government overseas
>government of the people, by the people

Such a retarded comparison

>>672074437
That's more a justification or explanation than a limitation or caveat of the right. The anon was correct, in that it says clearly "the right of the people", not the "right of the militia".

>>672070516
Shouldn't you be blackout drunk?

>>672075010
Not until 1903 was there a national guard. What about the other 110 years?

>>672063971
It's not blindly defended, in fact we've even changed it when we felt it necessary. Ever heard of a constitutional amendment? Oh wait, you're not American so you don't know what the fuck you're talking about when it comes to our system of government.

>>672075194
Too busy having my cultural legacy, land, and women stolen by white man without thanksgiving.

>>672063971
we don't do it blindly, you stupid fuck: there are WORDS on it in ENGLISH that tell you what it does.

>>672074898
No more than you are. No one really knows what was going through their heads. All we can do is try and interpret faithfully. That's the SC's job. And as I pointed out, they don't agree with you. If the writers of the Bill of Rights didn't intend for us to enjoy the right to bear arms, why did they explicitly say "the peoples right to bear arms will not be infringed"?

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>>672075151
>Late 1700s writing must be the same as today
>people are the militia, but lets ignore the militia part. Any retard with a gun is the militia

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Streaming hero, get in here fags ffs. tinychat com/17tqla

>>672075085
>Foreign government overseas
it wasn't a foreign government at the time you schmuck. this is why no one takes hoplophobes seriously

>>672063971
Do you see me telling your shit-farming first-world-aid-recipient ass how your government works? lolz

>>672063971
No one but inbred rednecks actually try to defend it.

>>672072530
>ammendments
>can't be changed
Pick one

>>672065918
Kek

>>672075540
Militia is of the people but is well regulated for the security of a free "state". That means that well regulated groups of people in defense of their government.

The supreme court also made some bullshit decisions allowing slavery and the arrest of those accused of sodomy. They were later redacted but supreme court justices are still people with their own inherent biases. History and literature tell us one thing, man's interpretation (and lobbyists) tell us another

>>672075571
Right, so "We the People" is actually "We the Militia". You guys accuse originalists of reaching, when you are the ones going through incredible mental gymnastics to try to make the original writers "agree" with YOU.

>>672063971
>Don't you think people have gotten smarter since then?

No, as a matter of fact, they haven't.

>>672063971
I can't hear your jealousy over the sound of my freedom.

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>>672075782
>No one but inbred rednecks actually try to defend it.
And constitutional lawyers and this one little section of the federal government called the Supreme Court of the United States just to name a few

fucking bigots

>>672075650
Are you retarded? They were a colony.

>>672075782
If defending my rights to free speech, unreasonable searches, equality, fair trial (and yes, gun rights) makes me an inbred redneck in your view, that's fine. I won't sacrifice my liberties just to make you like me.

>>672076099
In the context of the 2nd, a well regulated militia is a group of people that is well regulated in to a common fighting force to protect the 2nd. Not even the context of the 2nd, the context of the word militia

>>672063971
OP is littered a faggot

>>672075010
If the states started fighting one another. The national guard in theory would be used as a militia to protect the home state. The national guard would then follow the orders of the governor of that state.

>>672072780
>autistic enough to think it is flat

>>672063971
I've seen this post, could you just kill yourself instead of making this stupid shit over and over again and actaully come up with something intellectual to say? No? Then just kill yourself.

>>672076097
>man's interpretation (and lobbyists) tell us another
Yes, and there are interpretations and lobbyists on BOTH sides of the gun issue, just like everything else. And in this case, history and literature are on the gun rights side.

>>672075366
>He means somebody came to his casino, bought a souvenir and fucked a local girl.

>>672076685
Until you go to outer space yourself you simply believe in something someone told you, you don't "know" if the earth is round, flat, or shaped like my nuts.

>>672063971
And having a monarch in 2016 isn't ridiculous?

>>672063971
>CURRENT YEAR
But seriously the American constitution was created to still be valid in the future. Unlike most of Europe's shortsighted monarchs or tyrants, the founding fathers wrote the Constitution to be relevant even today.

If you read the constitution and do your research, you'l learn that it's still applicable today, just because you gotta use those brain cells doesn't mean it's irrelevant.

>>672076097
>gun owners are comparable to slave owners now

>>672076492
My first sentence was sarcasm.

>>672063971
>Why do americunts blindly defend the constitution?

Troll aside.

Because freedom of speech, protection against searches, and cruel and unusual punishment aren't outdated ideals.

But our government sure acts like they are.

>>672069348
Smart =/= wise

>>672076865
Oh ffs don't be an idiot. You can fly around the world and use the stars or a compass to easily prove to yourself that the world is round. This isn't the 15th century, it's not even that expensive to do, people do it all the time.

>>672076665
The whole point of the militias were for protection against an authoritive government. A state military is a government capable of tyranny.

>>672063971
Why do britbongs blindly defend the magna carta? It was written fucking 800 years ago. Don't you think people have gotten smarter since then? For fucks sake 300 years after that they were burning people for being witches. My point being it is fucking ridiculous to use a 800 year old document to justify anything in 2016.

>>672063971
we need to bring back public executions, and mob justice

>>672077238
And eugenics.

>>672068500
Please fucking kill yourself

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>>672076865
Fucking mongoloid.

>>672063971
>inb4 bait
because the ideas displayed in the document are still applicable to the current times.
fucking amendments you twat headed moronis mongoloid

>>672077189
The whole point of the militias were for protection against an authoritarian government. A state military is a government capable of tyranny.


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>>672063971
>250 years ago

you do realize that parts of it have changed, right

>>672066809
You can not be this retarded

>>672077581
Actually he is right, and you are the retarded one.

>>672066591
kek

>>672077223
"it's old" is not a good reason to disregard a founding document. You need to explain what about its age is the problem. Good ideas don't automaticall become irrelevant because of the passage of time.

>>672076796
Lots of money to be made by enacting reaponsible gun laws...

>>672065918
This guy gets it

>>672077189
Are you retarded? Youre just making shit up

>>672074677
Britain had no nukes and an army with such powerful weapons.

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>>672063971
Back to /pol/ nigger.

>>672071241
Except you should only consider what is called in medicine preventable deaths. Firearms in the US cause more deaths than STIs or drug abuse.

>>672070848
60s was a long time ago. And you only went there to compare penises with Russia.

>>672078176
/pol/ is far from ops statement anon.

>>672071157
Mom's* nice iq

>>672077189
Sure any power system is capable of tyranny. That is why we fall back on the constitution and common laws to protect ourselves. Even the federal government monitors the states to make sure they are doing the right thing. Pretty much everyone is overseeing everyone. If the federal government became tyrannical and compromised it would still be the duty of the national guard to protect the home state.

>>672063971
Because it still fucking works

>>672078161
And even if they did they have no use in the context of waging war to control territory, cities, and taxpayers. You cannot destroy that which you wish to possess.

>>672077749
So if everyone is allowed to have a gun couldn't there be an autoritarian regime established by the ones with the weapons? Not to mention all the shoot outs

>>672078366
Except the national guard is bankrolled by the US government. At the end of the day, the only person who will die defending you is yourself. And you should act that way.

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HURRICANE DAN COMING IN TO WRECK THIS THREAD FOR YOU MOBILE USERS


FUCK YOU CLOVER CHANU FAGS

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You're welcome.

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>>672076865
luckily trigonometry has been around for thousands of years.

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>>672078264
But Russia never showed up.

>>672078098
Think about the context, early Americans were rebelling against the authoritarian British Empire. It's not made up you retard the British were taxing the fuck out of American colonists. It's this tyranny that stayed with the colonists enough to make guns mentioned in the 2nd amendment. It was guns mainly that kept the British in check.


>checkmate

>>672078564
Nigger, are you fucking retarded?
If the average civvies has guns, authoritarian regimes won't be able to rise to power.

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Because nothing is perfect. If it isn't broken don't fix it. U.S. Citizens don't really GAF what other countries think of us.

>>672078580
This.

>>672078580
The reserves are federal, national guard is state. Any governor of a state can use thier national guard without the approval of congress or federal government. Even thier pay is from the state taxes not federal. Reserves pay is all federal tax money.

>>672063971
>Don't you think people have gotten smarter since then?
No.

Tl;dr
Constitution was made to protect citizens from government power. If the constitution changes, the politicians will give themselves more power so they can take advantage of people or steal their assets through tax

>>672078580
We still have the Police which have military technology
The national guard
The rest of the military
And private militias and people with guns.
Statistically crime is the lowest it has ever been in the US.

>>672078876
Welp, thanks for letting me know anon. I learned something new today. But my point still stands, the only person who will die defending you is yourself, and you should act that way.

>>672078338
You can go back too.

>>672079069
>All are funded on a state or federal level.
They will chose money and not being considered traitors over defending some random kid with a gun fighting the government. Learn to defend yourself.

>>672079278
Nah, I'm comfortable where I am. Plus, I'd have to get used to a whole new board and it's ways. Nah.

>>672079074
Thats not true at all.

>>672079069
Not correct, the law prevents the military to enforce civil law and it prevents the police from becoming a military entity. The posse comitstus act parents the police from having military gear hence all of the police departments being ordered by the president and congress to give back all the military hardware.

>>672079069
>>672079296
Missed the private militia and people with guns. But my point still stands.

>>672079482
I destroyed the spelling of that act but it's fact check look it up.

>>672079069
>Statistically crime is the lowest it has ever been in the US.
Imagine if everyone believed this. Sounds like a good way to dearm the entire population. Imagine it to the extreme, that people believed it so much that only government would have guns because citizens wouldn't feel they need them. Then the government in power suddenly decided to start a holocaust for whatever reason, killing off people, depopulation whatever reason. Who is going to stop an authoritarian government armed with guns against a population with no guns?

I'm just making a point.

>>672079456
Bit of both actually. they receive most of the funding through the govt, but can and do get state funding.

>haven't people gotten smarter

LOL...Obvious troll is obvious.

Fucking no, people haven't gotten smarter. Have you seen the dipshittery coming from women's studies and other bullshit coming from the left?

Moreover, idiots on the left don't understand what made America great and demand we emulate shitty Europe

>>672079543
That's why there is that militia clause in the second admenment. The " , " is for the right to bear arms.

>>672078777
The Americans werent Americans, they were colonists.

Real checkmate

>>672079920
I know that. And what I'm saying is that if it came down to some guy's life and yours he'd pick his 9/10. I wish that weren't true, but humans are greedy and you should expect no help.

>>672079674
What year do you think this is? You actually think an "armed" population could stop a government with drones and tanks? If the government actually wanted to start a second holocaust it could, but its not gonna happen because thats fukin rediculous. Time for you all to take off your tinfoil hats and get rid of your guns

>>672080086
Wat. that's like saying native Americans were illegally living on colonist ground. it makes no sense and you're reatrded anon.

>>672071917
Hey nigger, America isn't a Democracy, it's a Republic.

The 2nd Amendment WAS in-fact made to deter the Federal government to oppress its citizens. (See, Federalist Papers).

They didn't add the Second Amendment to protect against Natives and foreign invasion, that was a given. They did it because King Henry the 8th tried to ban gun ownership.

Fucking do your research before shitposting on online forums.

Faggot.

>>672080086
Ok so you're an actual retard. I think we're done here.

>>672080187
get out of America you fucking idiot. We don't need you mucking things up.

Also,
>What is guerilla warfare.

>>672076935
Lawsuits are comparable to lawsuits nigger

>>672063971

Is it that hard for you to believe that not everyone was a complete idiot back then? That everyone has inalienable rights that should not be infringed upon? I'm sorry that you believe you do not have a right to say what you feel, when you feel it, to defend yourself if you feel threatened, to not be subject to unwarranted search and seizure and to be able to not incriminate yourself by not speaking. Everyone is entitled to these rights, it is the governments and religions that squish them. My family was exiled from Scotland due to the purge of everyone not Catholic at the tail end of the 1600's. We realized why the separation of church and state was necessary and why you should be able to speak against it. Many people were slaughtered, Episcopialians, Christians, Puritians and many others for refusing to give up what they believed in for what the "state" believed in. This is what they saw, what they carried with them and what they established a new country for.

>>672080343
1v1 me rust faggot

>>672080092
You are ansoutely correct. A group of armed citizens banding together to form a "militia" is our right and should be done so in the perfect storm. The problem is, the media and country will just label us as domestic terrorists and negate our rights under the Department of Homeland Security act and we can be detained and held indefinitely without charges or a hearing. That is where shit gets really touchy.

>>672080187
Yes, an armed ragtag population was successful in Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan against AMERICAN forces.

>>672080546
Nice man, At least I know you'r a complete idiot now.

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>>672080336
Agreed. Best of luck in high school

>>672080296
Damn, finally someone well read.

>>672080726
I found the Trump voter.

>>672064252
Magna Carta (Latin for "the Great Charter"), also called Magna Carta Libertatum (Latin for "the Great Charter of the Liberties"), is a charter agreed by King John of England at Runnymede, near Windsor, on 15 June 1215.[a] First drafted by the Archbishop of Canterbury to make peace between the unpopular King and a group of rebel barons, it promised the protection of church rights, protection for the barons from illegal imprisonment, access to swift justice, and limitations on feudal payments to the Crown, to be implemented through a council of 25 barons. Neither side stood behind their commitments, and the charter was annulled by Pope Innocent III, leading to the First Barons' War. After John's death, the regency government of his young son, Henry III, reissued the document in 1216, stripped of some of its more radical content, in an unsuccessful bid to build political support for their cause. At the end of the war in 1217, it formed part of the peace treaty agreed at Lambeth, where the document acquired the name Magna Carta, to distinguish it from the smaller Charter of the Forest which was issued at the same time. Short of funds, Henry reissued the charter again in 1225 in exchange for a grant of new taxes; his son, Edward I, repeated the exercise in 1297, this time confirming it as part of England's statute law.

>>672080810
You dont u derstand history or logic. I get it. It must be frustrating. Best of luck and i hooe you find peace

>>672080625
You can still do it. And if you march on the government on grounds that aren't actually tyranny then yeah. You are a domestic terrorist.But if you're rebelling against a tyrannical government and that happens it's a lot like the revolutionary war. all it takes is a single spark to ignite a flame and the whole thing goes up.

>>672063971
Because it made us the greatest and most powerful nation in the world.

Fuck off

>>672063971
>when britfags reference the Magna Carta, a document twice the age.

>>672069804
>quartering

damn man, you gave it a go and got no You

here's a You

>>672063971

>mfw this dude proved his point by showing us that he shouldnt have the right to free speech

>>672081235
TOPKEK

>>672081235
kek

>>672081235
America gave Britain the right to still exist during WW2. History is ironic in lots of ways.

>>672080641
Way too simplified, there are many reasons as to why that happened such as using international borders and civilians as protection, what happens when there are no "innocent civilians" to avoid and protect? You die, and you never fire back

>>672080296
The Federalist papers... really? Didnt know that was part of the constitution.

Anywho, im well versed. Where in the federalist papers did it say average citizens need the right to own guns to defend themselves against a sovereign government of the peopleby the people?

Answer, it didnt. You took that comoletely out of context. The king banned guns so he could pwn colonists who had no real say in british government.

You are a dumb nigger or a liar. I think the former.

>>672080976
True, after I retired from the military I found my state militia rep. And we talked and he showed me thier oath and where in thier doctrine which was aligned with the constitution, was directly under the command of the state governor. I haven't been to a drill yet but you bring what you have and do training and what not (first aid, fema procedures, marksmanship) but since the last with groups like the "Michigan militia" and what they did they tread really lightly.

>>672063971
Why do muslims blindly follow the Quran?

>>672068428
Tell'em, only good answer so far...
The constitution prevents gov to make laws that fuck up your private life, the constitution is supreme law that stands over normal laws, so a law that prevents free speach cant go through cause the constitution prevents it

>>672081530
Oh yeah, I'm in a local militia with a few buddies in a bigger group and shit like what transpired in oregon or washington (always get those mixed up) and the "Michigan Militia" we were pretty furious at the idiots who ran around claiming they were a militia and protecting peoples rights. We've been pretty slim with actual squad training and focusing on more support stuff since those incidents.

>>672069116
Lol, doesnt work that way fgt

>>672081510
It's called guerrilla warfare retard. They're not going to meet up on a battlefield and fight dumbass.

“Demoralize the enemy from within by surprise, terror, sabotage, assassination. This is the war of the future.”
- Adolf Hitler

That's what the idiot British didn't understand, while Americans were using camouflage that Indians taught them hiding until attacks, British troops were lined up wearing bright ass red waiting to get their heads blown off.