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Which god are we talking about? And why are you crying
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>>676253763
It's all the same shit anyway: just Judaism with some special feature; at least that's how far it goes for the Abrahamic religions.

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>>676253300
I never saw any reason to believe in god. If you're the faggot who keeps making this thread over and over again, it'd be nice if you responded to our comments.

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And that is the only acceptable reasoned rational responce

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>>676254565
>what exactly is he trying to say?

>>676253300
It´s a wager, and I would rather rot in hell than spent an eternity with faggots.

>>676253300
I would rather face God as an honest atheist than as a wagering theist. Don't even care that I'm taking the b8

>>676255947
Yeah. Imagine being god and knowing people only acknowledge. Would you let them into your kingdom?

>>676255171
this
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>>676256398
Why not? I made them this way.

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" I am doing my part!" -star-ship troopers

>>676253300
Nice to see you making these threads again

>>676256609
Yeah. But you're only going to pick your favorites to live with you at the end of the world, and mind that even out of all your devout followers, only a few will be saved.

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>>676256398

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OP is an atheist, who poses as a Christian. Purpose is to troll /b/.

Instead of ignoring him, and therefore his posts die, you play right into his hands.

Why do they always use the girl from the never ending story for these theology fags?

>>676256398
Fucked-up that sentence. I meant to say only acknowlege your existence to get a REWARD.

pascal's wager doesn't prove god exists, but only states that it is rationale to believe in god, given the conditions he made.

but you could come up with a thousand scenarios alternative but just as plausible as a "god" such as if you don't believe in a midget leprechaun that lives on the moon then your soul will be damned, therefore it is rational to believe in that leprechaun.

the fallacy to pascal's wager is that it does not provide a convincing reason to believe in god versus all the thousands of alternative scenarios. there are costs to avoiding damnation under christian rules (church, praying, reading the bible, avoiding sins, and a bunch of other shit), but without a convincing reason to believe that the christian god is the correct choice to follow versus the thousands of alternative gods/deities or other beliefs, then there really isn't a net benefit whatsoever, all things considered.

>>676254164
Ok, you eliminated about 10% of the choices. What's next faggot?

>>676253300
I do believe in God but kindly explain what math proves God exists?????? x+y=God?

>>676253763
This image. How do you know that none of the other gods exist? Christians and Jews used to be polytheistic, why do you choose monotheism?
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>atheist troll posts thread posing as christian
>atheist argue among themselves
>mfw they are this gullible and don't see it.

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What if god wants us to not believe and by believing people are disqualifying themselves from heaven?

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>>676259150
why don't you respond to our comments then and maybe we can have a decent conversation?

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I already have a god to worship. Why don't you fags join me?

>>676253300
im an asianist
http://www.streamboobs.com/annemoon_/

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>>676260325
Praise Kek!

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>>676260325
I only worship gods of the net.

>>676258937
Christian and jews were not polythiestic. Where the fuck did you ever learn that?

>>676253300
Cite a reference to how math has proved anything related to God at all.

>>676257174
He's God, he can do whatever the fuck he wants to do. He decides whats right and wrong. If he decides to tell me to kill someone then I'll kill that person. Sin is to not obey God. So in that example it would be a sin not to kill that person.

Meh, Satan is the only good divine character in the bible. If the bible is true, I get to spend eternity in hell with the best friend mankind has ever had, my Lord and Saviour Lucifer. And I don't even have to follow any shitty rules while I'm alive to get it. I can do whatever I want!

>>676253300
this doesn't prove god exists, this proves that conservative bets don't hurt

it's better to bet on black and red because you will break even at worst, than it is to bet and on red and it land on black wherein you lose everything.

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>>676260835
It's true. Jews used to be poly theistic. They had all sorts of gods like Yahweh, Baal, El,... etc. Christians dropped that pretty early on though and began to view some of the older Jewish gods as demons.
see this guy's post >>676254164 for some sources, or go read a world religions textbook.

>>676260835
Have you ever actually read the old testament? It's a simplistic exercise to track the change from poly to monotheism.

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What if heaven is actually a horrible place and hell is cool as fuck ?

>>676253300
You think God can't tell the difference between true faith and just hedging your bet?

Get out of here, atheist

>>676262117
Jews were not polytheistic. The babylonians and assyrians that surrounded them were. And once they were captured and put under captivity some converted to the babylonian religion. At that point they ceased to be "jewish" by religon. Pretty sure Baal is a babylonian false god. It's refrenced in the Bible as an idol.

Pastor said god says I can't jerk off. Fuck you god. That's a goddamn dealbreaker right there.

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>>676262299
Topkek. It's Hilarious how so few Christians actually read their own book from start to finish. It's actually got some pretty interesting mythology.; more interesting than all that gay-ass greek shit if you ask me.

>>676253300
If I start to Beilive, I'm gonna have to follow rules and strict moral ethics. I'm gonna have to pray. I don't have morales, I don't need church, and I like getting presents. So fuck off. I don't care if I'm wrong, that'll be MY problem when I die, jackass.

>>676262446
Hell is probably only nice if Satan really likes you, so Hitler probably has a gorgeous limestone palace with 666 Aryan sluts waiting on him 24/7; after all, nobody hates jews more than Satan.

>>676262869
When Elyon divided the nations, when he separated the sons of Adam,
he established the borders of the nations according to the number of the sons of the gods.
Yahweh’s portion was his people, [Israel] his allotted inheritance. (Deut. 32:8–9)

Elyon is head of the pantheon of gods, Yahweh is just one of the gods. The early bible is explicitly polytheistic.

>>676263769
See. This is why Christians need to read their own book before they get on our asses for not joining their sky-fairy fandom. The lazy fucks need to learn to read.

>>676263769
Elyon is another name for God, moron. Just like El Shadai, Elohim. The real name is El Elyon which is "God most high", Its just a description of God himself. Pretty sure elohim or shadai is "Creator God". There exist many names for God in the old testament, but they shouldn't be taken as separate deities.

>>676264855
For one god, he's got an awful lot of names. And i know Baal has been seen as something separate from Yahweh.

>>676264855
Behold the ignorance

>>676264855
Really? And how about the time Jehovah got his ass kicked by the god Chemosh? A sacrifice of royal blood by his followers gave Chemosh the juice to beat the Israelite god. That's straight out of your bible too.

>>676265140
Yeah why wouldn't he have lots of names? You have lots of names too, asswipe, dickface, cock sucker.... The list goes on.

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Where?

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>>676265761
mfw Christians don'tread their own book.

>>676266033
2 Kings, chapter 3. Israelites versus the Moabites

>>676253300
sage

>>676266232
To be fair. Its a very boring book

>>676266523
Dunno bout that. Its got enough sex, rape and murder to make 50 Shades look downright puritanical. Even makes the Greek gods sexual antics pale in comparison.

>>676266523
Yeah, but they really should make sure they know the material before they try to "save" us. I can always tell when one of my teachers isn't an expert in the subject, and i learn much more from people who actually know what they're talking about.

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>>676266323
There is no reference whatsoever to a foreign god here. It just shows that the moabites successfully pushed back the israelites. The Israelites aren't the strongest nation out there. The've been in captivity quite a number of times.

>>676267188
This. It actually interests me a lot to talk to other people about their religions, but i often get disappointed when i find out that they're all fucking idiots.

>>676267188
Not that simple tho. Nothing makes atheists faster than seminary. A deep thorough study of the bible turns a lot of people away from the religion. Worked for me.

>>676267864
If reading the book killed your faith, that has something to say about the religion as a whole.

>>676267809
You didn't do so well at reading comprehension, did you?

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>>676267864
I left christianity a year after beginning 7th grade at a private christian school. About a year and half after that I realized I was an atheist (agnostic atheist specifically). The interesting part is that in my experience an atheist is more likely to have read everything in the bible (and know what's in there) than a christian. The christian usually just cherry picks verses he likes and memorizes them while ignoring anything controversial.

>>676268190
Not just me, my friend. Christians lose a lot of people who decide to study to become pastors. They don't like to admit it tho.

>>676260835
>Christian and jews were not polythiestic. Where the fuck did you ever learn that?

Common sense.
Holy trinity. Tri=3. 1+ = poly.

>>676268541
24 But when the Moabites came to the camp of Israel, the Israelites rose up and fought them until they fled. And the Israelites invaded the land and slaughtered the Moabites. 25 They destroyed the towns, and each man threw a stone on every good field until it was covered. They stopped up all the springs and cut down every good tree. Only Kir Hareseth was left with its stones in place, but men armed with slings surrounded it and attacked it.

26 When the king of Moab saw that the battle had gone against him, he took with him seven hundred swordsmen to break through to the king of Edom, but they failed. 27 Then he took his firstborn son, who was to succeed him as king, and offered him as a sacrifice on the city wall. The fury against Israel was great; they withdrew and returned to their own land.

>>676268712
That's actually kind of sad... I've never had a faith of my own, but i think it would be nice to have one. That's like slowly realizing that Santa Claus isn't real, only worse.

>>676254692
Or how about you stop bumping the thread so it can die.
Sage

>>676268842
They say they are monotheistic because father, son, and holy spirit are all different "forms" of the same god (I know it's a contradiction, but there are plenty of them in there). I've heard it described as ice, water, and water vapor are three different forms of water (H2O).

>>676268842
Holy trinity is 3 persons = 1 God. Look it up instead of making absurd assumptions. Lots of uneducated retards try the same thing against the trinity like you.

>>676253300
Nice b8 faggot

>>676269317
I'm bumping the thread b/c I'm not a narrow-minded edge-lord. I'm open to talk about religion, in fact, I take any chance i can get to talk to people about their faiths.

>>676269382
>Holy trinity is 3 persons = 1 God. Look it up instead of making absurd assumptions. Lots of uneducated retards try the same thing against the trinity like you.

3=1 confirmed idiot

>>676253300
Pascal's Wager presumes there is only one single God and it's the christian god. This was a safe assumption in the 17th century - you could literally die if you didn't take this assumption as fact.

Here in the 21st century assuming the christian god is any less of a fairy tale then the other 9000 gods is just a sign of retardation.

>>676268541
Fine, if you need me to spell it out for you.

Jehovah promises victory. Israelites are kicking ass. The king of Moab in desperation sends out the last of his swordsmen. They get destroyed. The final, last ditch, attempt by the king of Moab to save his kingdom is the sacrifice his royal heir to his god (Chemosh). I should have guessed you'd be using the NIV. The proper translation of the Hebrew in the final verse is "divine anger" is poured out against Israel. A kingdom with no army left chases out the conquering Israelite army by the wrath of their god.

>>676269693
You're the idiot for trying to wrap his limited mind around an unlimited God. Its called the holy trinity mystery for a reason dipshit

>>676269382
The trinity is still a contradiction. You are right that they say they are monotheistic, so one god. However, many sects of christianity describe the nature of the trinity differently (because it isn't clearly defined). Some describe it as three different forms of the same thing, while others describe it as three different entities. Three forms of the same thing kind of works, but three different entities is a direct contradiction. I mean, in fairness it is one of many many contradictions in the bible, and probably the easiest one to explain away with something like "well, we don't know everything about god because that would be impossible."

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>>676260835
Genesis 1:26
And God said let us make man in our image, after our likeness

>>676270041
Yeah, because it's bullshit

>>676269954
>by the wrath of their god.

NOT what the scripture states.

>>676270343
Trinity is being refrenced

>>676270041
Do me a favour and point out a single verse that references the trinity. Not just one that lists the 3 gods together.

>>676269954
This is one of the things that tempts me to major in religion, the thought of knowing more about religions than the people who practice them.

>>676270630
Nope the son hasn't been born = son.
No crucifixion = no holy spirit.

>>676270541
Yes, it does quite clearly. Their god gets a burnt offering, then their god directs an outburst of "divine anger" (literal direct translation from the source text) against Jehovah's chosen, who then run away. Your ignorance doesn't change that.

>>676270514
No, because you are an angry fedora wearing fuck face who is angry at God for not getting what he wanted in life. So then he choses not to believe in a God because he doesn't get what he wants

>>676270343
Jesus had not been born yet. He had to be talking to someone else. The Holy spirit is an omnipresent spiritual entity, and the presence of God himself: It wouldn't make sense for him to be talking to his own ghost.

>>676270343
A great verse in support of polytheism. Well done.

>>676253300
But a crazy bum once told me if I don't belive in his majesty Lord Santa (PBUHN) I will be tortured forever. That got me so scared I stopped believing in God and started believing in Santa instead. Now I just belive in whatever has the worse hell for those who does not believe.

>>676271162
"Hur dur, I don't know how to argue against someone so I'll attack them based on in inaccurate stereotype." That's pretty fucking pathetic.

>>676253300
god is tits
http://www.streamboobs.com/leila_lopexxx/

>>676270781
Such a hard Google search....

https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Bible-Verses-About-The-Trinity/

http://www.gotquestions.org/Trinity-Bible.html

https://www.gci.org/god/3bible

>>676271074
The son is God. He was there as creation was made along side God the father and God the Holy Spirit. Literally the begging of the Gospel,
>in the begging was the word
>the word with God
>and the word was God
The word is Christ himself.
John 1:1

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>>676255622
>It´s a wager, and I would rather rot in hell than spent an eternity with faggots.

According to these people, Hell is exactly where all of us faggots are going.

>>676271262
>A great verse in support of polytheism. Well done.

Here's on to support God is not omnipotent.

“And the Lord was with Judah; and he drave out the inhabitants of the mountain; but could not drive out the inhabitants of the valley, because they had chariots of iron.”
Judges 1:19

>>676271888
Now you're right back to polytheism

>>676271719
Bzzzt, sorry no. Those all just list up to 3 gods and you pretend it says what you want it to mean. The whole trinity thing was shoehorned in rather late to the whole christianity party.

>>676253300
because you are a retarded fucking nigger goatraping son of a bitch bastard. Kill yourself

>>676271162
Dude, I've never blamed anyone but myself for any of my shortcomings in life.; it seems selfish to do so, considering that humans were supposedly created to serve God and not the other way around. I don't believe in god, b/c i see no evidence to base my belief on. I i were to see a miracle spectacular enough to inspire faith in my heart, that would be amazing, but i haven't. I know seeing is not believing, but i need a bit more of a push to get me to belive in something that doesn't make any sense to me. If there is a god, he/she hasn't reached me.

>>676253763
It's funny cause that's not nearly all the gods xD

>>676271249
There's actually no proof that Jesus ever existed. There's no archaeological evidence and no objective sources. Everybody who wrote about him did so many years after his supposed death, and all the people who wrote about him knew each other very well. It's plausible that they created Jesus because, well, good luck finding a perfect human being, much easier to just create one. That times 1000 for someone who supposedly died and rose again.

>>676272015
Hehe, yeah, I love those iron chariots. Poor god.

>>676253300
>>676253300

Most religions state that if you're not part of THEIR believe specifically, you're going to hell.

> Probability that you chose the right religion = minimal
> Time/resources wasted on religion = more than minimal

Atheism has a better payoff

>>676271888
No, Christ is the way, the truth and the light. The word was always just god.

>>676272620
Well, i'm pretty sure Jesus was a real guy, and a pretty cool one at that. I'm not so sure about the miracles and interpretations about what he said though.

>>676272678
Yeah if God wants to bring the wrath, just get in the car.

>>676272337
No, atheists will never understand the trinity. So believe what you will. I believe in Christ as my savior. I have FAITH that what I believe is true.

>>676273144
Christ is the way, I'm just showing how Christ existed before he was born as Jesus.

>>676273246
Seems to me like he was probably a real guy. His mom lied to hide the fact she got raped by a Roman. Said some nice things and got killed for it. Then his followers hid the body out of desperation and that lie led us eventually here.

>>676273354
Good for you. I wish you well on your path to salvation. Just don't try to convince me unless you actually have a convincing argument.

>>676273622
No, you're interpreting things how you want them without supporting evidence. John threw in some flowery language to try to retconn the Jesus character into previous texts. He didn't do it well.

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There is no bridging the divide between believers and atheists.

This bait thread was started by an atheist posing as a Christian. Atheists flocked to it to defend their non-belief to a fellow atheist without realizing it, or being gullible. It wasn't until much later a few Christians came in.

Atheist here are so defensive and frothy mouthed, that any hope of an intellectually honest discussion is an act of futility. That's how it always is. Neither side cares what the other says, and no one is "converted".

You're all insecure in your beliefs. That is why you argue to defend you position with such fervor. You desperately need justification for you belief system.