because feminism

Allu Akbar?

Do you mean on a moral or legal level? Legally true sentences might be similar (idk if they are) but morally I've never seen someone say that rape is equivalent to murder.

Rape is considered a particularly heinous crime because of the complete degradation and loss of control of their own bodies that the victim experiences. That's why it's different from assault; it's not getting punched in the face, it's someone sticking their dick inside of your body without your permission. It's taking something that's supposed to be romantic/sensual/fun and making it horrifying/painful/humiliating.

Add on top of that that many women then become pregnant with the child of the person who raped them, and it's pretty clear why it's such a horrible act.

tl;dr getting punched in the face isn't going to get you pregnant with some psychopath's baby. Assault is external, rape is internal and external, plus can have long lasting consequences.

5 mins w my dick in your ass will tell you why

because the justification for rape is trivial and passing.

not only that but weeding out the members of society who would rape is a pretty good idea for reasons beyond the rape itself.
Anyone willing to do that should be removed.
Preferably by the men of the community rather than the police.

I can justify a murder, rape not so much.
inb4 edgelords.

>>675914325
My point being. Yes, I would gladly take 5 min of you dick I'm my ass over being killed.

>>675914068
So its ok to rape dudes. Got it.

hypergynocentrism/feminism. thanks to retards like this who think only women can be raped and only men can be rapists: >>675914068

>>675914582
let's say i murder someone because i want to eat him. how is that worse than raping someone because i want sex?

>>675915235
other way around obviously

>>675914582
what is your definition of rape? if you agree with >>675914068 then that means all men must be killed because you're suggesting that consent can be revoked by a woman after intercourse and men don't have the right to not consent.

>>675914068
>dd on top of that that many women then become pregnant with the child of the person who raped them
hardly ever happens, but they should be given a morning after pill at the hospital when given a rape kit.

>>675915702

So I basically equates to assaulting someone with you dick instead of a fist, and somehow that makes it a more heinous crime.

>>675914068
Men and even boys are still forced to pay child support by courts if they are forced into intercourse against their will.

>>675914068
Kill yourself.

>>675914068
>Do you mean on a moral or legal level? Legally true sentences might be similar (idk if they are) but morally I've never seen someone say that rape is equivalent to murder.

There are those who claim it's worse than murder. Yet, they are alive to say it.

>Rape is considered a particularly heinous crime because of the complete degradation and loss of control of their own bodies that the victim experiences. That's why it's different from assault; it's not getting punched in the face, it's someone sticking their dick inside of your body without your permission. It's taking something that's supposed to be romantic/sensual/fun and making it horrifying/painful/humiliating.

I've been assaulted, it took something that was supposed to be a safe trip home and made it into an ordeal where I would worry about leaving my home for a while.

I see the point with shoving a dick up someone though, it's certainly a terrible crime.

>Add on top of that that many women then become pregnant with the child of the person who raped them, and it's pretty clear why it's such a horrible act.

As someone said, this hardly happens with a one time rape.

>tl;dr getting punched in the face isn't going to get you pregnant with some psychopath's baby. Assault is external, rape is internal and external, plus can have long lasting consequences.

I do agree that rape is not to be likened with getting hit in the face, but being beaten close to death can also be an internal and external ordeal.

>>675916273
The patriarchy at work!

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>>675916273
check your privilege

>>675916204
Punching someone with your fist = Painful and causes physical damage.
Inserting penis into vagina = Not painful, no physical damage. Consensually or not.

>>675916812
so tell me, if you had the choice between a bunch of black guys beating you

or

A bunch of black guys holding you down, putting vazeline in your asshole so it will not get any physical damage, and taking turns on fucking you with no rubber...

what would you choose?

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>>675916599

Check your privilege!

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>>675917450
If the Prophet is protecting me FINE.

ITT: Men's rights activists get mad that women get all the credit for being raped when it's technically possible (and incredibly rare, outside of prison) for men to be raped too.

The fact that we have to EXPLAIN why rape is bad and deal with people arguing AGAINST that point is absolutely fucking batshit insane. I'd expect nothing less from this group of degenerate, barely-functioning, women-hating man children.

>>675918048
I was recently raped by a woman.

>>675917450
An edgy comeback is a non argument.

>>675917450
The black guys raping me I'm pale feminine weak skinny white guy that would love that.

>>675913016
>at best its on par with assault.
faggot

>>675917450
up the ass every time.

>>675918265
but you've been a faggot for a very long time

>>675918431
No, the question pretty much makes sense.

>>675918511
Yeah, I bet you would be in heaven.

>>675918666
No, I'm a straight male who was living a normal life before this woman raped me and shattered my life.

>>675918048
nobody is saying rape isn't bad. What I want to know is why is it often considered as bad as murder.

>>675918732
> No, the question pretty much makes sense.
Then form it in an informal and neutral manner. Acting like a whiny child doesn't make your (lack of) argument meaningful.

>>675918902
Women aren't as physically strong as men. It would be impossible for one to have raped you.

>>675919245
How is the question whiny?

I am just curious as to what you tould choose. As I would assume most reasonable people would prefer being beaten over having their ass defiled and exposed to potential STD.

Holy shit I just realized rape is reverse murder.

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>>675919303

Kek

>>675919303
I was drunk and didn't consent.

>>675919059
Sexual assaults are just high up on the list of serious crimes, OP. Deal with it.

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>>675919303
don't know if trolling

>>675919303
>>>675919600
>>675919641
how is the truth "trolling" exactly
put that fish away faggot

>>675919559
Yay STDs someone finally raised a valid point as to why it's worse than assault.

>>675919641
fuck you
nobody was forcing you

>>675913016

Touch my pickup truck or my daughters pussy and I'll kill you that's why.

>>675920089
>touch my daughters pussy
I could unlock that bitch easy
and you couldn't do shit

>>675919920
Ok pretend its a woman your talking about then reevaluate the situation and realize who dumb your being.

>>675920283
still waiting to hear how a small woman forced you to have sex

>>675919826
> impossible

Absolutism usually is not the truth.

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>>675920520
he didn't say small woman? also he was drunk, can you even read you fucking imbecile

>>675918048
> Men's rights activists get mad that women get all the credit for being raped...
1. Like, they want you know, equality? Why are feminists afraid of equality and only abuse the word to get special privileges for women?
2. Feminists get mad that men being raped is even considered a physically possible. You are only talking against your own argument.

> incredibly rare
No, it's just ignored and no reasonably valid statistics exist due to laws not recognizing male rape as rape and compared to women, practically no services for male victims are available.

> The fact that we have to EXPLAIN why rape is bad...
Maybe you should acknowledge that first then. Stop cuntsplaining and accept equality.

>>675918563
spotted the feminist

>>675920807
It's b8. Anon is a buttmad faggot who can't get a woman to talk to him so he's blaming "feminism" or some shit

>>675913016
because it is as serious as murder. fuck off piece of shit

>>675920954
What tipped you off? the lack of any logic at all.

>>675921183
yeah it's totally logical of you to downplay a heinous crime like rape

>>675921171
ikr
OP needs to have the holy living fuck beat out of him

>>675921171
But why is all I want to know. God damn. Yes I already know that I want to know why. Are you dead afterwards... no.

>>675919890
technically, there is potential for great harm to your body, even death, when it comes to ordinary assault with no dicks.

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>>675921168
of course he wasn't raped, he is an ugly /b/tard. still, he has a valid point and you haven't set forth any good arguments to dispute him

>>675921486
>but why
>why why why why am I such a faggot

>>675921698
>still, he has a valid point
nope

>>675920520
I was drunk and didn't consent. I only remember smal parts of the night, and then my crotch smelled like prawns the next morning.

>>675921573
But physical harm + stds + risk of pregnancy Is worse than assault. However still not as bad as murder.

>>675921774
did you break out the shrimp sauce

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>>675921766
nice argument there, fucktard.

you are the reason real feminists are hated. no equality, just idiocy

>>675921953
you're the reason girls don't talk to you

>>675921168
What if the same happened to a drunk woman, would it be rape even though she wasnt overpowered, and acted along with it?

>>675922049
it wouldn't be the same
women aren't men
men are stronger and would be able to fight off a woman
plus there's no way she could make him stick his dick in her

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>>675922002
another nice argument there

>>675922458
says the faggot agreeing with the buttmad fake rapist

>>675918732
I actually would be in heaven

>>675922356
>it wouldn't be the same
Intoxication, same exact dilemma

>women aren't men
No, and men aren't women. And rape laws do not only protect women.

>men are stronger and would be able to fight off a woman
Not if intoxicated. Besides, there isnt even talk of any fighting. This is a question of consent.

>plus there's no way she could make him stick his dick in her
Actually yes, there is. I've been so drunk I could hardly move after lying in bed, and still have a boner. A boner isnt consent.

>>675919559
First let's address the issues with your question. You did not make an equivalent comparison. In my post I am comparing being punched and heterosexual intercourse with the physical levels of pain and damage they cause. You are however asking if I'd like to get raped anally rather than being beaten by several men. Regarding it was not the matter of preference in my post, being anally penetrated with proper lubrication doesn't generally induce significant pain either.

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you know what the funny thing is? i consider myself a feminist. i am for gender equality.

people like you just hurt the cause of real feminists.

"men cannot be raped" is such an idiotic indefensible argument.

since i now actually suspect a troll, i will not answer any post until it is in the form of an argument

>>675922808
god you are such a faggot
women raping men DOES NOT OCCUR
you faggots are making this shit up to demean female victims of rape

>>675922521
>I sometimes miss IDs because of faggots like this
either retarded or a troll.

>>675922971
>"men cannot be raped" is such an idiotic indefensible argument.

except they aren't
women are, pretty much every minute

>>675922356

Sex without consent = rape.

why is bestialitiY wrong? a large dog has sharp teeth and is strong enough to fight back but is not able to consent because due to the fact it cannot grasp the concept of consent. Anon was drunk and was taken advantage of in the same way.

> inb4 edge Lords start defending beastiality

>>675922963
well, then clearly asking the preference would show if you agree there is harm beyond the physical pain.

>>675923115
keep believing that faggot's story
go right ahead
you are being trolled massively
but not by me

>>675921929
Men have a higher risk of catching STD's from unprotected intercourse.

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>>675923192
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_of_males

>>675913016
Rape is the most beautiful and romantic thing a man can do for a woman.

He loves her so much, he'd risk going to jail and having his whole life ruined just to love her.

It is truly poetic.

>>675923341
Anon is a lying faggot MRA

>>675923341
Anon is a lying MRA faggot

>>675923519
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>>675923036
>women raping men DOES NOT OCCUR
Within the criterias set for consent, it happens every night. Just most men do not think much about it, or even care. So they will not report it.

However, with the newer criterias some people are pushing for, men would certainly be able to report rapes themselves.

>>675923036
I'm skeptical. your trolling so hard right now. Are you a dude.

>>675923572
>poetic
your tiny dick is
it's like a little horsie

>>675923473
>claims not troll

So just retarded.

>>675923793
>women raping men
MRA bullshit

because then you ruin her for her future husband if she wants to get married faggot

>>675923572
so many trills and none of then realize what's going on. This is great.

>>675923955
re-read. And for the record, screaming MRA isnt an argument.

>>675923793
Rape involves force
there is no way a woman can force a man to have sex unless she's a fucking wrestler

this is fucking MRA crap
stop buying into it

rape is by and large a crime directed towards women

>>675923964
Now this is well crafted bait.

>>675923572
Underrated post

>>675924258
no but claiming men can be raped definitely isn't an argument
it's butthurt MRA raging

>>675913016
Because it destroys the victim mentally
The damage done is tremendous, you become a paranoid, you can't trust anyone, you can't have normal relationships
It destroys lives when you think about it

>>675914068
>complete degradation and loss of control of their own bodies that the victim experiences.

I basically experience that every morning when i go to work

>>675924307
Rape is a term that these days do not even need to involve force.

>>675924600
Yes it does. All rape victims claim that they were being forced to have sex.

>>675924307
Of course there is
There're strong women and weak men
A woman can be armed or can blackmail
That feminazi bullshit appalling

>>675924464
So assault would not have the exact same effects?

>>675913016
Beats the fuck out of me. It's not even assault. And decriminalizing rape would solve a lot of the world's problems.

>>675924801
men being raped never happens
it is an urban legend anti-feminists come up with to discredit real rape victims when the shitty comparisons are called out

>>675924751
So, a drunk man who did not consent cant claim that he was forced?

Yet a drunk woman can?

>>675924584
>>675924584
Let me ask you, would you prefer going to work, or have a group of black men hold you down, put vazeline in your butthole and take turns on fucking you?

>>675924862
god are you really this fucking stupid
rape is a personal violation of your psyche
that goes beyond just beating someone up
sex is a very personal and private thing in our lives

do you really hate women that much that you'd want to downplay such a heinous crime and compare it just to being punched?

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>>675923747
do you even realise what you just quoted? what it even means?

the relevant part you will want to read is "female on male rape".

i suspect you are someone who is upset with all the msogyny on this page and you want to pay it all back by trolling. do as you wish. i will leave now

>>675925021
No, with the new criterias for rape, lack of consent is an issue. This means that men will soon also be able to regret fucking someone and claim rape.

>>675925136
How would a woman force a man to have sex? Even in the worst case scenario the dude can just roll up into a ball. Rape involves actual coerscion.

>>675920281

You should consider having prostitute before diabetes takes away your ability to get an erection.

>>675925211
Not having to work in exchange for sex. women get married all the time so it can't be such a bad deal.

>>675925267
I'm saying your stupid faggot article about "male rape" is hopelessly biased.

>>675925460
But enough about your health problems

>>675924862
Maybe
I guess it depends on the circumstances
I've been in some fights but it didn't really change my life
If it completely wrecks somebody's life, maims or gravely injures like torture then why not
But the psychological effect remains very strong with rape too
I guess it's a question of point of view

>>675925267
I don't believe some buttmad fucking kissless virgin anti-feminist /b/ tard got raped for a minute.

Stay mad faggot.

>>675925459
Incapacitated, blackmailed etc. Just because you don't want it to be true, it is fully possible for a woman to coerce a man into sex.

>>675925235

>just being punch

Do you really hare domestic assault victims so much that you'd want to downplay such a heinous crime as being beaten within an inch of your life and compare it to just being fucked?

>>675925021
That's bullshit
There's a shitload of abusive women who treat their husbands like shit and force them to fuck
Get out of women's studies and observe the real world, it's way more complex than what you think it is

>>675926025
Maybe you need to be raped then anon
if that's what it would take to change your mind

>>675924307
>no way a woman care force a man to do anything
>must have super powers to do so because every man is heman and all Winn are frail, brittle flowers unable to protect themselves

>>675926291
A least it would be a better alternative than being dead. Which is what this thread is supposed to be about.

>>675925459
How can a man force a woman to have sex? Even in a worst case scenario, the dudette can just cover her hole. Rape involves actual coercion.

>>675926604
REKT

>>675924307
The average adult male and the average adult female of similare body shape (fat levels) and fitness (amount of exercise) do not have a significant enough difference that would allow a male to completely overpower a female alone with the female having no ability to fight back.

there is no way a man can force a woman to have sex unless he's a fucking wrestler

>>675924464
I think the issue OP is trying to point out is that while rape can destroy lives, murder for sure ends them. And rape is often regarded as worse than murder.
Its something that has confused me for a while as well.

rape is just surprise love. you guys are all moral fags

>>675928117
It's maybe considered worse because the victim has to carry on with the weight of what's happened to her or him
Of course murder is terrible, but when you're dead it's over

>>675928400
well they can just kill themselves anytime

>>675927849
That's why you need to pick drunk girls
Or drug them with ghb
Or invite some friends and share the prize with them

>>675928497
I think plenty of them actually do that
Then you can argue that the rape indirectly killed the victim

>>675928808
> You can argue that being born indirectly killed anyone who has committed suicide.

>>675924928
It's a form of torture. And not comparable with consensual BDSM.

So, dude, if you're up for that, bend over that barrel and let the local gang run a train on your ass, with cocks and broom handles, as they strangle you and pound you in the face.

I think you might have a change of heart after that.

>>675929014
That's an argument but the thought that you're living isn't really the main motive behind somebody's suicide, being born isn't really a traumatic event unless your mother tried to flush you out

>>675929546
Being born isn't a traumatic event? Ask for an information sheet from a birth clinic and educate yourself.

>>675929887
You want to kill yourself because your birth is a traumatic event for you?
Do you know somebody who tried to kill him or herself because of their birth?

>>675928400
I hear that argument a lot, but they don't have to live with anything.they can end it, and I think that's an important factor.
A rape victim can choose whether or not to live, while a murder victim never gets that choice.

>>675913016
Would you rather be raped or assaulted?
Assaulted? But they're on the same level!?
Just because you deny being edgy, doesn't mean you're not. You are as edgy as they come retard.

>>675930259
What kind of a choice is that?
You proved that rape could be considered as a death sentence yet you want to downplay its importance

>>675913422
>>675923572
>>675924218
>>675923964
>>675924928
>>675929014
>>675930259

It's this kind of sophomoric casuistry that makes a person long to see your reaction
when your not-so-smart mouth can't save you from serious, real world problems.

>>675930858
I don't believe that saying rape isn't equal to murder is downplaying it.
When you rape someone, you are altering their life. When you murder them, you are ending it. These are just facts. If being dead was preferable to being a rape victim, there would be far less rape survivors.

>>675915235
Obviously that's not a justified murder and fails the analogy

>>675931401
What problems would that be?

>>675931401
Yeah, I'm sure my opinion that murder is bad will get me in to a lot of trouble down the road.

>>675919303
this
Did she also force you to get a boner anon? Weak faggot.

>>675932541
Murder and Rape and Assault are all bad

>>675913016
Because there is something genuinely wrong with someone who thinks its ok to force sex on another person.

>>675932914
Having a boner is purely mechanical
Handjob or prostate massage and whether you're in the mood or not you'll get hard
Having a boner doesn't necessarily mean you want to fuck, same thing with women lubricating

>>675930847
Depends is it a "gentle rape" like being drugged or an anus tearing full force one. Is it a "slight" assault like a fight or a beat to deaths door type one. The fact is there is rape that can be worse than assault and there is assault that can be worse than rape. But murder doesn't have levels its absolute.

>>675931928
>>675932541
Thanks for making my point for me, yet again. Good night, boys.

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>>675933437
Who would win in a fight? A grizzly bear or a tiger?

>>675932987
You won't hear any argument from me, I agree with your statement.
In the end, we won't be able to figure out which is worse until we learn to communicate with murder victims and ask how they feel.

>>675933548
Not an answer, just an admission of defeat.