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Why does Hilliary keep winning? Everyone that I talk to and
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Why does Hilliary keep winning?

Everyone that I talk to and know supports Bernie.

Could Wall Street be rigging these elections like Bush?
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DNC is super corrupt. look up super delegates.
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consider the following

1. you go to college
2. you live in a mental hospital
3. you are a millennial
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>>674184234
"Everyone I talk to" most likely meaning your set of 18 - 26 year old friends, as well as people you have added on social media.

The youth dominate social media. The youth are the reason Bernie Sanders is even a thing.

The majority of folks who are Hillary supporters don't give two shits about being proactive as a supporter on social media. They actually campaign and spread the word through real life, not a computer screen.

With that being said, I understand the frustration. Young people keep forgetting that there is a very large majority of people who don't post all of their shit on social media, though.
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>>674184444

Quads for truth. Hillary was never going to lose.
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>>674184444
Even without super delegates Bernie would be losing horribly. Lmao
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>>674184234

After March 15 Bernie Sanders will grow after the lame states have already voted. You dont have to believe the media. Everybody should vote and every vote counts, trust me after this date Bernie will rise
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>>674184560
>>674184678

I live in California. Everybody and their grandparents support Bernie so it's not millennial stuff that the media portrays.

It sucks that were one of the last places to vote...
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Bernie is an old, hypocritical, delusional, racist, socialist cuck whose policies will only serve to bankrupt the american people and increase dependency on government. That's why he's losing. He's a shitty candidate with a shitty ideology. He's so shitty that people would rather vote more for Hillary than him, and that says a lot
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>>674184444
QUAAADDSSS
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>>674185114
HEIL
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>>674184560
Kill yourself
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>>674184234

Because as much as people say they want change, they really don't. I'm not talking about the neckbeards I'm talking about the general populace. She's Obama 2.0. More of the same and the Republicans literally have new Hitler on their side so I think people are just gonna go with the safe option. Or what they perceive to be anyway.
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>>674185114
You do realize Bernie was supposed to win Illinois and Ohio, right? Oh, and Missouri?

He was also supposed to have a slight chance in Florida. Nothing came of it, and he got destroyed.

Take a look at the map of the states that have been rewarded, and you'll see for yourself that Bernie is getting his ass handed to him on a platter.

With a 300+ delegate deficit and an even bigger deficit with super delegates included, it is nearly impossible for Bernie Sanders to win the nomination at this point.

According to CNN (after listening to them all fucking night) Bernie would have to get 75% of the remaining delegates to even have a shot before super delegates.

If it were winner take all he'd have a shot. Unfortunately for you guys, it isn't. It is proportional, and Hillary has pulled up far enough to have a safe enough lead in pledged delegates until the convention.

Sorry Bernie supporters. Tonight ended the revolution.
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>>674184234

She has a vagina.

>yeah, she's corrupt
>yeah, she's a liar
>yeah, shes a dangerous lunatic
>but dont you think its time we had a woman president?

Same shit as King Obongo

>dont you think its time we had a black president?
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>>674185170
Tell'em son
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>>674185158
Dude you are an idiot man jesus

Using that same theory we can explain that Barack Obama won in 2008 only because he was colluding with Wall Street, and we know this because Amarillo, Texas voted for McCain.
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>>674185158
It doesnt suck but it is designed that way
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>>674184234
>Everyone that I talk to and know supports Bernie.
News flash: you spend time with people who are like you, faggot.
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look up marc rich
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Bernie supporters don't exist outside of Reddit and Twitter.
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>>674185114
>every vote counts
kek
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>>674185750
California has 475 delegates. Bernie Rules Cali
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>>674186013
/thread
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Fucking commies. Go to Russia and try to sell your Sanders shit over there. They'll kill you.
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>>674185158
>Everybody and their grandparents support Bernie

>everyone wants free stuff from govmnt
>dumb shits who don't vote
>share stupid bernie shit on facebook
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>>674185170
Shitty ideology that works for the rest of the western world
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>>674185923
you don't know that.
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>>674186051

He should probably run for governor of california then, since having them bwcking of one state cant make you president.
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>>674184234
Everyone you know and talk to probably fits into a fairly narrow set of demographics. Many demographic groups are almost exclusively for one candidate or another. By and large, people adopt their political views from their communities, and so are likely to find themselves in communities that by and large share their political views.

That's why people you know like Bernie, but Hillary is winning.

As for why Hillary is winning, it's literally because people are stupid. Sanders doesn't pander to idiots. He's the only politician I've ever known not to, and it's going to cost him the presidency.
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>>674184234
> Could Wall Street be rigging these elections like Bush

You semi-implied that you are a Sanders supporter, so I'm sure you already think Wall Street has done all manner of ridiculous things, but do you honestly think they rigged the Bush election? The only person really responsible for 'rigging' a Bush election is Jeb with Florida in 2000.
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>>674186051
>proportional
>"Cali has 475 delegates"
>being this retarded

If Hillary were to lose Cali by 40 points (which won't happen), she would STILL hold a pledged delegate lead before super delegates.

Face it, it's over.
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>>674186013
This, for every 1 trump support post I see on social media I see 50 bernie support/anti trump post. It's a little redicilous how much people who support sanders go to belittle the opposition
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>>674184234
A: Superdelegates are made exactly so only the established candidate is going to get the Nomination

B: Bernie supporters are more talk than anything with more supporters being college age millennial faggots and I do mean faggots and legit underage children than anything else.

C:blacks and every other minority took it as weakness early on when he let the BLM activasts take the mic from him while he hung his head low in the corner, and blacks in general don't like being preached to constantly that he walked with MLK and he prepped the bull before he fucked his white bitches
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>>674186051
Bernie might rule suburban Cali, but California has a shit ton of immigrants and they tend to go for Hillary.
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>>674186408
>Sanders doesn't pander to idiots
Yes he does, the old fuck can't go one interview without saying something about niggers
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>>674186473
Until June, And those super delegates can support Sanders if he crushes HC on the next voting states
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>>674186194
No, the europeans left socialism long time ago, scandinavia being socialist is pretty BS, but theyre doing pretty bad actually.
Greece was socialist and look how it ended
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>>674184234
Hillary is owned and operated by the corporate establishment, like most politicians. They also own the media, which gives them a lot of influence on the public.
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Your vote doesn't matter. The decision has been made.
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>>674186664
I like the optimism, but it isn't going to happen.

Hillary is going to win more states and Bernie will win some more states. The point I'm making is that with the proportional delegate system the Dems use, it is going to be close to impossible for Bernie to catch up WITHOUT super delegates.
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>>674186450
>he only person really responsible for 'rigging' a Bush election is Jeb with Florida in 2000.

and fox news & whatever companies associated with bush family
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>>674184234

THE DNC NOMINEE WAS DECIDED YEARS AGO. IT HAS ALWAYS BEEN HILLARY. BERNIE NEVER HAD A SNOWBALL'S CHANCE IN HELL BECAUSE THE POWER ELITE--WALL STREET, 1%, JEWS, POLS--ARE ALL INVESTED IN HILLARY. SHE OWES THEM AND THEY NEED HER TO WIN TO COLLECT. SO IT'S ALL FIXED/RIGGED AND HAS BEEN FOR YEARS.

SAME WITH THE GENERAL ELECTION. IT'S ALREADY FIXED. SHE WILL WIN.
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If HC wins the nomination, Trump will be our next president. That I know
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>>674186968
*based on JUST pledged delegates

is what I meant
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>>674186665
See this is were you Americans become retarded, socialism isn't bringing a fucking Stalin as a dictator you know?
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>>674186642
He does pander to demographic groups, like all politicians. If you think that certain demographic groups are comprised entirely of idiots then you can say that. What I mean is that he doesn't lower the level of his discourse. He stays on point, he explains things intelligently, and he tends not to say completely unsubstantial things like "Together we're going to bring people together!", and so on.
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>>674185170
Unfortunately you're talking to slightly more intelligent people on this thread, so horseshit isn't as effective. Nice try, though.
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>>674186408
>I will give this and this free by cutting this
>10-2=0
Doesnt work that way, he just says what SJWs wanna hear and "its 2k16" memes.
Every1 who slightly understands politica knows that Bernie is full of shit
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>>674187039
>fox news rigged elections
>FOX NEWS
Top zozzle m8
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NOTE to Hiliary supporters:

Hillary is not Bill.

If she's elected Bill wont do shit, but chase around interns the white house.
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>>674187340
Which is exactly why Bernie is only relevant because of the youth and lack of knowledge of the youth.
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>>674184234
supreme faggot court, not wall street bb.

hillary is default PFCUK DRUMPF mode

otherwise we all for BERNIE
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>>674187151
Socialism isn't inherently authoritarian, no. But it is inherently wasteful.
It raises taxes by nature, which is oppressive to the poor.
There simply aren't enough 'rich people' dollars to buy everyone free college.
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>>674187398
one of the bush family members was the president of fox news during the 2000 "rigged" fest
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>>674184444
superdelegates dont=corrupt
nonetheless fuck the delegatev heirarchy
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>>674187418
>Hillary gets elected
>within first year theres drama as Bill has been caught fucking everything with a pussy not called Hilla the Hun in the WhiteHouse while shes away

This is a legit reason why blacks what Hillary so much, just to see more Bill shenanigans
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>>674186194
It only works because it gets to feed off of what capitalism and the free market provided. Just wait. It'll kill them eventually. I think it's Denmark where only 4 provinces/counties/states/whatever the fuck they call them have a majority working population. The majority feed off of the govt and pay ridiculous taxes. Combine that with open borders and unregulated immigration and it's a death sentence for any nation. It breeds a childlike mentality where you depend on the government and you do whatever the fuck the want you to because "they know what's best for everyone."

All you commies can go pound sand. Socialism cannot work without communism. Socialism is the economic model, communism is the social/cultural model. We have seen how communist countries end up.

This long rant doesn't even take into account Berntard's god awful stance on guns. "Assault weapons" or scary-looking-semi-automatic rifle bans are unconstitutional and strip power from the american people. The gun show loophole is horseshit too. I went to a gun show last month and me and all my friends had to pass a background check when we bought guns.

Bernie is a shyster who will ruin the american people while offering feel-good promises to strip you of your freedoms and leave you powerless and in debt. FYI, Lenin was a democratic socialist too, until he wasn't.
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>>674187632
Do Americans actually believe this?
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>>674187340
Everyone who says that Bernie is full of shit bases the idea on some completely ignorant and illogical nonsense, like then wanting to change how we pay for things means that somebody can't subtract.
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>>674185170
lol you have poopie on your doorstoop lol smell the burn
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>>674184234
Hillary owns the media to make it look like shes doin a lot better, bernie won a seat he had a 0% chance of winning
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>wall street
>wanting hillary
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>>674184234
You have a small group of friends. Everyone older than 22 is voting for Clinton.
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>>674186642
His entire campaign panders to idiots lol. He just promises "free" shit and the tards believe it. It's depressing tbh
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my hard dick
giving a fuck
BERNIE
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>>674187398
Shared zozzle
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>>674187151
Im Swedish you cocksucker, the only thing socialism brings down is the economy
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>>674186606
>immigrants
Darn. Too bad you need a citizenship to vote
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>>674188012
Not so much depressing because of that, but because of the fact that the ENTIRE support base is overly militant.

Imagine that. "YOU'RE DUMB AS SHIT FOR SUPPORTING DONALD TRUMP"

but you approach them in real life about it and give off reasons Bernie is a candidate and they go crawling back to their support group in their safe space.
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>>674187918
The Clintons have been Wall Street puppets since the 90s. Educate yourself my poor Americuck.
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Pretty much sums up Hillary.

Everyone should keep on voting for Bernie

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O3iBb1gvehI
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>>674185752
Reread what you wrote and ask yourself, am I the bad guy? Just think about it for a minute. No need to reply. Just reflect on what you have become.
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>>674187245
You must have your head really far up your ass if you actually believe that.
>TOGETHER WE ARE BEGINNING A POLITICAL REVOLUTION
>I AM SEEING A REVOLUTION HERE IN (STATE) TODAY
Whenever I see Bernie Sanders speaking, he can't shut up with these buzz sentences. To put it into a visual representation, he's cutting the very tip of a hedge - barely trimming it at all. For some reason though, people are buying into it like they're hot cakes. For you to actually believe he doesn't pander to pseudo-intellectual retards with stupid, unsubstantial things as you put it, is actually stupid. Willfully ignorant even.
>pic related
>literally just took this off his twitter to prove you wrong
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>>674188296
shit candidate*
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>>674187767
Socialism doesn't work in a non-homogenois society

>do Americans believe this?

Are you Canadian or something?
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I just don't get why people like trump. He's a huge idiot that wants to get rid of everything he doesn't like. Does anyone realize why that isn't a good trait in a ruler of a country?
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>>674184234
http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2016/03/clinton-will-build-biggest-lead-march-15-sanders-will-erode.html
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>>674187322
>bernie supporters
>intelligent

the irony
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>>674188413
That moment when your opponent sweeps every state you offered those bullshit speeches in
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>>674188595
/thread
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>>674187632
It gives more gov, less freedom and a fucked up market cause gov "shop" sells education by force and youre forced to pay for a product that sucks.
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>>674188166
Salaam alekum bror, men tror du seriöst att gratis skolgång och sjukvård är någonting niggativt? Hur kommer det sig förresten att Sverige klarat sög helt utan krisen.
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>>674188166
This based Swede actually understands basic economics
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>>674188296
It's true, there basically mindless sheep who believe whatever the bern tells them. Pretty lame way to live tbh. Never really did get the demonization of people they diagaree with when the bern message is to be "tolerant" lol
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>>674187245
>>674188413
his tweet literally says what you stated that he never says. holy kek. fuck sanders supporters, they don't have the first clue about anything
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>>674186665

"Greece was socialiast and look how it ended"

You know nothing anon, Greece was already poor as fucked and corrupted and lazy, nothing about socialism.
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>>674187245
He doesn't explain anything, it's all just topic sentences and a calm demeanor. I guarantee you wouldn't be saying that if he used a tone similar to Trump. Why are you trying to justify something that doesn't add up
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>>674187767
yeah, they do. they have an almost unique naivete where they just believe the rich when they say they haven't fucked them over.
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>>674188410

Yes, true villainy comes from wanting a candidate to be elected on their policies rather than demographic factors outside their control. Based on what they choose to do and choose to promise, not based on how they happened to be born by chance. I am the bad guy.
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>>674187632
Cut military spending by 10% and we can have public college be free for everyone. No tax raises for that matter

This still leaves america with 600 billion to spend on military for a year.
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>>674189060
If socialism is so great it would've helped Greece, but instead it drove it further into the ground. I fail to see your counter argument here
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>>674187767
Right-wing media outlets have been pounding this stuff into their heads for so long that they actually believe it. Talking with them is like trying to reason with a flock of parrots.

Research also indicates that right-wingers are in general less intelligent and rational than left-wingers. Cognitive deficit makes them very vulnerable to that kind of agitation-propaganda.
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>>674188741
It's because it's supposed to be a "REVOLUTION" so anybody that doesn't follow suit is considered to be brainwashed by the media and incoherent of his policies blah bullshit blah bullshit blah

I used to be a Bernie supporter.

I agreed with about 40% of his platform. The reason I got behind him was because of his honesty and relatively close ties to defending the middle class.

But as the movement began getting more and more militant I peeled from that cringe bullshit and moved over to the Republican party where I agree more with the candidates.
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>>674188733
>basic economics

When are people going to understand that socialism only works in a homogenous society. Basic economics my ass.
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Bernie is a literal communist. Americans with common sense can see right through him.
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Bernie is going to win guys.
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>>674187768
Would you buy a cheeseburger for 30$?
Would you buy fries that hasnt been fried, for say 5$?
Ofc not, but youre forced to pay for these products we all know suck because government can force you to pay for their awful products. Its simple.
And BTW i live in Sweden, Bernies dream country, not because we're "rich" but because hes a cuck
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>>674189158
>Cut military spending by 10% and we can have public college be free for everyone
The thought process of your average Sanders supporter, folks. Doesn't have the first fucking clue how the world works.

I mean, dude, listen to yourself. You seriously think 10% of military funding will send the entire country to college? Are you fucking delusional?
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>>674189158
If you knew how inflation would skyrocket if this happens you'd have your nose in a book ASAP. Please read up on economics, currency and trade and shut the fuck up untul you learn something.
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>>674188514
He's a better candidate than any in either of the big two parties. He's not who I'm voting for, but if he wins I won't be unhappy. If I had a gun put to my head and had to vote for a republican/democrat I would vote Trump. He's not as dumb as you think, I'd be willing to bet that he's a hell of a lot smarter than you.
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>>674189158
>we can have public college be free for everyone.
So most people leaving college are already having trouble finding jobs with their degrees and the solution is to flood the market with even more worthless degrees.

Making college "free" for everyone just turns college into another highschool diploma that you have to have to even do the simplest of jobs.
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>>674188297
goldman sachs employees gave $484k to support bush

80k to rubio
43k to cruz

$180k to hillary
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>>674188727
He won't answer, of course. He doesn't speak Swedish.
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>>674189496
LMAO. I was going to push forward effort to say that same thing but I thought someone else would get to it.

Yes, they believe this fairy-tale bullshit.
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>>674184444
Super delegates for the most part work the way they always have but the fact the media spins them into actual votes makes the Bs keep spreading. As reported tonight, fox says Bernie is 700 to Hilary's 1400 however super delates don't mean "actual" shit until primaries. But the way media spins it they mean the full on election and any undecided will eat into that crap. Oh ho I'm a Democrat, who is the mag voting for hur dur?
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>>674187322
>Bernie supporters
>thinking for themselves

All they do is listen to the topic sentences and say "it works in Europe!". As a eurofag, I can confirm it actually kinda sucks. And genuinely intelligent people never mention their intelligence to prove a " point" lol
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>>674187507
The bern is only relevant because Hillary is that shitty. And the young people who let passion take over
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jesusfuckingchrist just do your research and vote for the candidate you most agree with.

I may be voting for bernie, although I do see the appeal in trump. People can be intelligent and vote for bernie, the same way people can be intelligent and vote for trump.
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The average political knowledge displayed here makes me want to kill myself.
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I don't get it, either. As someone mentioned before, young people dominate social media. Thing is, all the 30-40+ people I see on social media love Bernie, too (except for the illiterate Trump supporters). I'm generally not a conspiracy theorist but this is just weird.
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I live in Florida. I went to vote for Bernie today, but they told me since I registered independent, I didn't have a vote in the primaries. Is that true? They gave me a ballot with a local nothing issue to vote on, but when I said what about the primaries, they told me I had to register under a party to vote for the candidates. That seems wrong.
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>>674189398
socialism only works in a society where people don't value and defend their personal property rights
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>>674189496

You know that america spends 54% of its budget on military, right? Imagine the shining golden paradise america could be if it had invested its money in improving america instead of destroying everywhere else.
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>>674189690
it isnt so much the media spinning it as it is the delegates using their status to influence others

they can say undeclared.
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>>674189886
Implying you're a Bernie supporting, meaning you should.
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>>674185158
Fa real.
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>>674184444
checked and what is wrong with super delegates?

It is better than the brokered convention rules the GOP has.

In both cases the elite chose the nominee while pretending to give you a choice, but in the GOP case it is obvious and probably loses the election.
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>>674185158
Just because your inner circle agrees with you is not a very good statistic. The youth is so caught up in having arguments with random people on the internet in under 140 characters or less and ending them with a hashtag that they forget to go and actually vote. Voter turnout for young people has been decreasing for years.

Bernie will not win the presidential ticket for the Democratic party and most certainly will not win the presidency. Just realize this and you won't be so disappointed later on.
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>>674189958
That's blatantly false. Majority of the budget goes to welfare. I believe 18 percent is military
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God, she just looks evil.

And yes OP, it's possible.
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>>674189891
none of them are supporting the primary process by participating

they get on instagram, posts some emoji's and hashtags
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>>674189406
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>>674185170
It doesn't matter if his plan works but the fact he is outside the system bought by money viewing in. Probably the same reason Republicans choose Trump. Make America hate again! Hur dur he says what he wants and ain't afraid of no nobody
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>>674190171
She IS evil. She lied and cheated her way to where the fuck she currently is mane
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>>674188727
Aleykum selam broder, skolgång är inte alltid negativt, men vi i Sverige betalar mer än vad vi får tillbaka, i Schweiz tex så betalar de 700kr och får bättre sjukvård(försäkring) från privata aktörer som konkurrerar med varandra. Samma sak gäller skolan, vi i sverige arbetar väldigt mycket och skapar väldigt mycket pengar, vi är egentligen mycket rikare än vad vi "känner" av pga staten tar pengarna och slösar de på saker de tycker är "rätt" medan det du vill spendera på är mindre viktigt
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>>674189546
I would hope every presidential candidate is smarter than me. Unfortunately, this guy isn't. Based on your reply I'm willing to bet you aren't either.
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>>674189406
>common sense
>aka, substandard intelligence and no actual knowledge
only retards support Trump unironically
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>>674189604
this. Thanks anon. They also fail to understand that it will increase the price of education substantially and cost way more than we think it will. Just look at what Shkreli did when he exploited medicare.
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>>674189352
Yeah, there just really isn't any substance. People like to say he isn't sketch, but his entire platform I based on riling up young people for votes. Then about half of what he says doesn't add up coherently when you actually think it through.

Will probs vote Trump if it's HillvTrump mainly because she's just that bad. Don't even really like Trump, but at least you know you won't be guaranteed some shitty policies
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>>674189958
Yeah let's cut our military funding when we have one of the biggest national security crisis's in history going on. The sandniggers have stated themselves they'd come through intakes of refugees, yet we should cut our military?

I can't wrap my head around this, I really can't. How do you feel safe at the idea? Why would you TAKE AWAY from your defense when you need it most? Bernie Sanders wants to both TAKE IN refugees, then cut military funding. What terrible ideas.
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>>674190116
15.88%* is military.

The person you're responding to is talking about the budgeted discretionary spending for the military.
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>>674185752
>Obongo
>>>/pol/
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I don't wanna take the time to find it to tag the fuck but seriously like over 6 million kids could go to college for free with only 10% of the US military spending. Which is already way the fuck over what everyone else pays combined. It's fucking ridiculous.
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>>674184234
It's called getting off your ass and voting. Young people don't do that, so the Youth vote can't win campaigns. That is just the way it is.
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>>674190400
You legitimately think you're more intelligent than a man who was able to transform a million dollars into 10 billion and found hundreds of companies and employ thousands of people? You're an idiot lol. Trump's smarter than you and he's smarter than the establishment and the media. He's playing them all like fiddles. You must have a pretty high opinion of yourself
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>>674189060
>lazy
The greeks work most hours in EU or did. They spent more money than they had basically and lied about it.
>socialism works until you run out of other peoples money
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>>674189958

Literally google US budget, first link and scroll down.

>Finally, putting together discretionary spending, mandatory spending, and interest on the debt, you can see how the total federal budget is divided into different categories of spending. This pie chart shows the breakdown $3.8 trillion in combined discretionary, mandatory, and interest spending budgeted by Congress in fiscal year 2015.

Federal spending on the military is 15%.
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>>674189604
A BS is already what a HS diploma was a few decades ago. That's part of why college should be tuition free, like high school. Tuition free doesn't mean lower entrance requirements, or larger student populations. For all you know, the result would be more selective universities and an increase in the value of a degree as a result of the fact that stupid people make it to college less often and everyone knows it.
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>>674189899

Is it wrong? I suppose.

But it is Florida law, you just didn't inform yourself in time to register correctly.

There are plenty of states that have open primaries that don't have that restriction.
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>>674190428
>only retards

This is what liberals actually believe
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>>674190470
700 Billion/ year for the military is more than then next 7 countries on the list and most of them are our allies.

You are scared of sandniggers fighting with rocks compared to the world dominating military we have today.

you fucking right wing idiots are so stupid, you have more of a chance to die from your own guns then a terrorist.

we could cut the military in HALF and still have the largest in the world
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>>674188413
>>674188756
>>674189078
https://www.bostonglobe.com/news/politics/2015/10/20/donald-trump-and-ben-carson-speak-grade-school-level-that-today-voters-can-quickly-grasp/LUCBY6uwQAxiLvvXbVTSUN/story.html
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>>674184234
You clearly don't know many people over 40
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>>674184234
You are only as big as your social circle. Bernie does 70+% with youth voters. Moth youth are democrats, which means roughly 7/10 voters you encounter are Bernie Supports.

"b-but even ol-der people"

It's lower than 50% of them who would vote Bernie. Experienced democratic voters are going Hilary, and voters above 40 are going Hilary.

It's simple. Whatever college you attend, whatever people you associate with, are statisically more likely to support Bernie. You will find California wont be much different. I think it will really shock democratic voters when they see even the non southern states swaying towards Hilary.

Bernie has to win by 80+% in every state from this point forward to get the nomination. Even if he took every state from this point forward by 1% it would not be enough. Basically Bernie has been berned out. It isn't an establishment cover up.

Consider this. The entire republican establishment and media hate Trump. You think if they could rig the election they would have. It's no different with the democrats.
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COMMIES GET OFF MY BOARD REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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Any Chance Bernie becomes the democratic nominee if Clinton gets indicted?
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>>674184678
>Young people
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>>674190989
No, because it won't happen.
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>>674188410

Sarcasm bro, look it up
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>>674190708
You legitimately think trump received only one million and worked all by himself to turn it into more?
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>>674190650
Making public college free would increase monthly taxes by 400 more or less. And as of now, community colleges cost around 4200 total. And it isn't even really free, because you still have to apply and test into it. So once again, it's the middle ass and poor that get fucked. If Bernie actually wanted to do something, he could try and create policies that would motivate private unis to increase competition, because that's where the world's best education is at. "Free college" is just a topic sentence to get votes from college students
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>>674184234
Look up super delegates for your answer. The democratic party is anything but that now days. They pick who they want to win. The republican elites are wishing they could do the same. Americans are tired of that bullshit. We pick who we want, not them. That is why you have outsiders doing really well. (I.E. Trump, Sanders, and Cruz)
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>>674191202
That's actually been a proven fact, are you taking Cruz's word on the "200 million" or something?
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>>674190737
Exactly. It's not that college is completely unnecessary, it's that we just need more education nowadays. Whether we make college free or not a college degree is what public education was years ago, so it only makes sense to make college socialized.
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>>674191065

fixed
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>>674190849
Why do Bernie supporters imply that if you disagree with them, you support Trump
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>>674187767
Sadly, yes. Socialism won't work here because of idiots like this guy.
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>>674191202
I think he is without a doubt more knowledgeable about markets and business than you ever will be and that's the area that America is the best. He's smarter than you, he's had access to better education than you
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>>674190984
Trump supporters are sent straight to the gulag
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>>674190989
>if
There's every chance, IF that happens, but it won't because the rich and the powerful don't get in trouble for things.
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>>674189206
>people who disagree with me are actually intellectually inferior

Pure narcissism. There's a reason people over the age of 25 aren't going for Bernie my man
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>>674191535
much love to you anon for expressing my frustrations adequately. Take comfort in the fact that Bernie Sanders will never be president and will have most likely died within his first 2 months in office
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>>674191535
Where do you guys come up with this
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>>674184890
Nope. Without them we'd be at 800 for bernie and ~1096 for Clinton. You need 2383 to win. There's 2404 unallocated with mostly winner-takes-all states left.

Without those superdelegates, he'd be fine.
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>>674184234

Because NOBODY FUCKING VOTES.
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>>674191426
Nope, I don't trust that guy just like I don't trust trump. Well, not exactly the same, but close enough.
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>>674191535
The same thing could be said if fucking high school was privatized. College is pretty much required nowadays. It's the new high school.
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>>674191973
Then maybe Bernie should work on inspiring people

>get fucked berncuck
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>>674190776
I think it's a nicer way of saying suckers
It removes the responsibility from you
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>>674190388
Schweiz är dock ett speciellt fall då de bygger sin ekonomi kring banker och utländska investerare vilket går gjort dem väldigt rika (likväl ditt Norge med sin olja). Det är sant att vården är extremt ineffektiv vilket jag tror beror på kompetent personalbrist och allmänna fel i själva synen kring sjukvård, och andra arbeten för den delen. Men att bli ett USA där hela ditt liv präglas efter dina föräldrars plånbok tycker jag vore tragiskt.
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>>674191865
not anon but i'm 27 and voting for bernie.

suck it statistics!
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>>674185750
2404 unallocated delegates say otherwise. 300 is chump change. California alone would make up the gap and then some.
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>>674192007
But you do realize he's the one that coined that though. It wasn't a thing until he was like "lol 200 million"
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>>674190337
I'd vote for Bernie for education and health care, but what's the point if the US is just going to get flooded with foreigners?

Besides, Trump has suggested that he may favor healthcare
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Hillary supporters exist but don't really say anything online because they're generally older. Most of the annoying Trump and Bernie supporters who are always spamming their bullshit are under 30.
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>>674191710
America is not a business and should not be run like one.
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>>674192177
>>674191956
I give up. The stupidity among Bernie supporters is so bad that common sense no longer registers.
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WHY IN THE FUCK DO YOU PEOPLE WANT BIGGER, MORE POWERFUL GOVERNMENT?

Like what in the actual fuck is wrong with you people. The only thing I can think is that you're little babies that need you hands held every step of the way.

>Revolution man! Lol let's take down The Man by letting him take more of our money and strip our ability to tell him to fuck off!
>That'll teach him!

I choose freedom. Fuck you people.
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>>674191954
not him, but that anon isn't coming up with anything. I know it's a bit different, but special collector's edition comics don't become special collector's editions by everyone having them. everyone having a bachelor's degree, because it would be free to earn it, would completely devalue it
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>>674192157
Bernie Sanders: the oldest senator who has done absolutely nothing while in the Senate. What makes you think his presidency would do? Most of Congress is repub now anyways, what do you honestly believe he would do?
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>>674192401
>implying bachelor degrees arent already devalued

you need a masters now
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>>674191865
The research is in. Right-wingers are, in fact, less intelligent.

http://www.livescience.com/18132-intelligence-social-conservatism-racism.html
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>>674191956
The democratic party doesn't do winner-take-all you fucking moron
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>>674192432
executive orders
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>>674191535
perhaps that would be abennefit because all you 20ish useless fucks need time to realize that you are worthless to the real universe and no matter what your degree you are still fucking worthless to the job market...then maybe you will realize you were fucked by the educationcomplex and will seek real change....how can a level playing field hurt in an useless endeavor?
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>>674192380
Lol, this is actually kinda true. Increasing the federal government's power ALWAYS fucks everyone over, just look at history
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>>674192551
They don't work on the private sector retard
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>>674192506
if that's the case, then master's would become even more devalued if it was free to earn your bachelor's. master's would turn into what bachelor's are now
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>>674191710
You know you can't just call in a bankruptcy and everything will be fine like a business. Just look at fucking Greece, that's what happens when you run a country like a business.
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>>674191535
You lost me at no reason. Private colleges offer better education and prestige. Perfectly good reasons to attend them. A law firm is more likely to hire a harvard grad than someone from arizona state.
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>>674192694
so all forms of education are going to devalue with time, might as well let anyone who wants to spend the time learning the material should be able to learn it for free
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>>674190115
You sound moronic when you group an age group together like that.

Just like all those old people that are so busy starting wars to actually read up on any of the candidates.
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>>674192714
Except Greece failed because of its socialist policies you nincumpoop
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>>674192614
people like you are annoying. you provide nothing useful with your melodramatic drivel. just shut up if you aren't going to provide anything worthwhile to the conversation

>hurrdurr everything sucks i'm a faggot be a faggot with me
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>>674192539
>people who give into racism and prejudice

This is implying that all "right-wingers" or non-democrats are generally racist and generally prejudicial to other people. Then we have you here, being the prime example of exactly that, being prejudicial against people you diagaree with. Explain how this remotely proves your point
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>>674192551
Are you actually this uniformed. The president isn't a dictator dude
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>>674192906
Right, it's not like it was so fucking corrupt that no one paid any bloody taxes.
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>>674192770
Learning material is secondary in college to performing tasks. A degree says you'll do those tasks, and how well you'll do them.
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>>674193078
socialism? Corrupt? Who would have thought!?
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>>674192342
Right because common sense dictates that upsets don't happen and a 300 point deficit in a primary with over half of its delegates outstanding constitutes a slaughter.
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>>674190704
but leftists hate guns..
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yes it could be rigged
trump has had multiple caucuses rigged against him
and has under performed his poll #s 5-6 TIMES over (in some cases) which is statistically impossible
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>>674192432
If we got four to eight years of not having a complete tool for a president, I'd be satisfied. The executive order legalizing pot would just be a bonus.

Seriously, though, his extraordinary unlikely victory would cause a pretty significant shift in the country's political climate. That alone would be more than worth the effort.
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>>674192770
EXCEPT WHEN I DON'T WANT TO PAY FOR YOUR LIBERAL ARTS DEGREE I SHOULDN'T BE FORCED TO YOU COLLOSAL FAGGOT
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>>674192770
>should be able to learn it for free
Anon, having access to all the knowledge in the world for free sounds great and I wish it upon mankind as a whole.

This is a pipedream though, much like Bernie's entire campaign. If there's no order to education, no structure, then we have people as stupid as DINDU NUFFINS on the same level playing ground as officials in office. Do you see how this fails in working? I sure hope so.
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>>674193304
I guess you haven't been to Arizona.
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>>674192380
On the contrary, seceding power to states can be far more disasterous. Trust me, we fought a war over it.
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>>674192857
And when you go pulling random groups out of your ass you also sound like a moron.

>those old people

Yeah fuck them.
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>>674193213
YOU'RE ACTING AS IF BERNIE IS GOING TO WIN ALL THE DELEGATES FROM HERE ON OUT.

Jesus fucking Christ. I don't know the math, but to get to the nomination you have to have the HIGHER PERCENTAGE of the proportionally handed out delegates.

That means Bernout is going to have to start whipping ass or it is over.

As said before, he has to win 75% of the rest of the delegates to even have a CHANCE at then nomination before super delegates.

For fuck sakes you people are stupid.
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>>674190951
>Bernie has been berned out.
kek
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>>674192432
Done nothing? Are you insane? Look up his record in the senate.
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>>674193465
Education becomes less about learning facts and more about being certified. I think it's a good change.
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>>674190265

The more you know!

http://www.snopes.com/1998-trump-people-quote/
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>>674193190
Yes, the great and free USA isn't corrupt at all? I mean just look at how they fucking fund their campaigns, or how the fact that being able to pay more to get a better healthcare. And let's just see how your fucking jury system works or the fact that you can make deals outside of court and just pay a little bit more and you can do what the fuck you want. Sure corruption is just for socialist countries.
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>>674193554
I was being facetious to prove a point. Sorry you didn't understand that.
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>>674193313
This. We need a *little* but more socialist Democrats in the government imo. I know, "muh capitalism", but honestly we are getting fucked over by corporations, the government isn't the biggest thing we need to worry about.
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>>674193550
Lick a chode. There's a balance to be had and it's been tipped far toward a powerful federal government for a long time. It doesn't need to be tipped further
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>>674193313
A shift in the wrong direction though. He would continue a solid part of Obama's policies, it really wouldn't be all that different. It would just be Hillary+. Executive orders aren't that powerful btw, and with good reason. Just imagine h
The damage that could be done just because of one person's beliefs
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>>674193455
Is you your opinion that you should or shouldn't be forced to pay for other people's high school? Why?
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It's rigged, dude.

Oldfags and femtards are voting hillary though they won't always admit it.

Anyone with a brain is voting bernie
Ignorant racist assholes are voting trump
literally no one is voting for the other publican candies

We're going to be stuck with shillary cliton for the next 8 years.

There's going to be a civil war if bernie or trump win.
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>>674192543
What a shame. I guess we'll just have to hope Sanders launches an independent general campaign to syphon votes, while the GOP nominates an establishment candidate at their convention I can actually vote for.
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>>674191314
> middle ass
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>>674193749
>>674193812
I think both of these people are right.
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>>674193713
socialist countries are worse though. At least in a capitalist society the average citizen has purchasing power and can influence the market that way.
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>>674193664
He's proposed 3 bills in 40 years. There have been sentaors with 4 years that have proposed x3 that amount. I'm quite confident in my mental health
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>>674193909
If bernie berns-out, I'm rooting for trump.

Might as kill this country off with a bang
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>>674193455
So, you'd argue for a stipulation that only certain degrees are free. Other than that, no problems with free education?
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>>674193991
Typing on my phone kek
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>>674193969
Just depends on whether or not Bernie signed anything ensuring he wouldn't run in the general as a third party candidate.
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I like Hillary because she supports Planned Parenthood. They do God's work, like helping this little girl.
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>>674193668
So you think people should be treated fairly and given the same opportunity regardless of their work ethic and intelligence? Jovan Saint Nigger should get just as much opportunity as hard-working Jim Sterling just because one of them went on to free college?

That sounds a whole lot like FUCKING COMMUNISM anon
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>>674194071

You mean ignite the rocket that will let it take off?
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>>674194027
Top Kek m8 the average man can do shit, all you fucking do is go to work everyday for a shit salary. M8 capitalism is shit so is communism
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>>674193503
I dont visit shitty states, sorry.
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>>674192975

My point is that conservatives are less intelligent and more prejudiced than liberals. The research supports it. Don't blame me. I'm only the messenger.
http://www.livescience.com/18132-intelligence-social-conservatism-racism.html
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>>674193832
He might not be able to remove it from the schedule I list, which he thinks should be done and which would constitute full legalization at the federal level, but it would be fully within his power to stop enforcement, which would remove the only caveat to legal medical and recreational use in various states that have done that.

And it would be a shift in the right direction. His policies and ideology differ very significantly and positively from Obama's on trade, privacy, war, and (at least arguably positively) even healthcare.
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>>674194240
That depends, can all of those people pass the certification to do the things required of them? One would assume certain certifications would be beyond the scope of the unintelligent or work ethic - perhaps those requiring the use of mathematics (since it's a skill as much as knowledge).

Wait, why are you going on about communism?
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>>674194234
Good to see she's still standing by partial-birth abortion, what would women do without these rights?
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>>674194071
I might be on board with that, simply because Trump isn't a corporate shill - he IS corporate america personified.

He's not afraid to voice controversial opinions
He's proposed some ridiculous policies
Has never held political office

I'd rather be ruled by a corporatist than a cunt.

The worst thing about trump is that he's an arrogant fuck. This spoiled piece of shit doesn't deserve to run a country.
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>>674194291
Take off to more failure?
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How the fuck did this turn into a bern hate thread. I thought this thread was to expose hillary being a corrupt bitch. I smell the work of shillary supporters
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>>674191535
I don't think you understand how many people actually wouldn't go to college. The kids that don't go to college don't go because they're lazy and think they can do well enough without having another four years in college. They don't think "huh, I would really hate to take out a loan for 2500/year to go to community college, that's too much!! let alone not being able to make it through a good public university
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>>674193704
there was a video of him saying that somewhere on the internet. It's not fake. he's probably trying to cover it up now
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>>674194138
Nah, I don't like the idea of free college. If anything, we should bring back the concept of apprenticeships where people apply to places they want to work by demonstrating their aptitude to perform the job and complete tasks. If they need additional education, the employer foots the bill while also getting labor from them. To offset the cost of education, the employer could offer the employee a lower wage. I think the free market could solve the problem
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>>674194578
Get out of your bubble delusional bernfag, it's not the work of Hillary. your hero just isn't as good as you think he is
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>>674194435
That's research about racist people., and your trying to attribute it to all conservatives? The point is this isn't proving your "point" in any way, shape or form. All your doing is proving mine kek. Think for yourself dude
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>>674194578
>truth

how do we expose hilary of being a corrupt bitch to everyone else?
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>>674193561
Of course I'm not. I simply stated that if Superdelegates weren't in play, he would only need to earn 300 delegates to close a gap with over 2400 available with which to do so. Keep in mind, Hillary would need to have that same percentage you mentioned which would mean if they both came close, and he closed the gap, the democrats would be in the same situation as the GOP.

This is, and has been, an entirely hypothetical conversation based based on the first post in this chain. No idea what you're getting bent out of shape over. Everyone knows Superdelegates are what's making it near impossible for Samders to win.
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>>674194313
I'm sorry but you must not understand the leverage that a large population of people boycotting something has on the actions of a corporation. Purchasing power is real, and could be an effective way of making companies behave if we could have coordination of people and we didn't have socialist laws
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>>674194578
This usually happens when people have a discussion, because bern is all talk and no substance

>berned
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>>674185170

I've discussed with many people who don't support Bernie, and essentially all of them, including Hilary supporters, are devoid of the facts. They simply vote on what little to no research or heresay...

Oh wait. This is America. DISREGARD.
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>>674194639
The free market is all about motivation. What's going to motivate companies to do this for their employees, and do it fairly?
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>>674188281
> Implying all immigrants are illegal and non-citizens.
>2KKK16
>being this fucking Autistic
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>>674194517
Yup. I do agree with some of his platform, but in all honestly I don't like his arrogance and mild racism.

And although I do agree with most things Hillary says, her opinions change positions more than my flaccid penis in my jeans.
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