This all happened around last year, since then she comes down, and nothing has changed. We're still alone a lot, we make the same jokes, I'm happy my feelings didn't ruin it. She came down again on Saturday, left the next day. Everytime she leaves, I feel dead. I want to be with her so badly, but I just don't think she'll ever feel the same way. A part of me wants to try something again, another part says give up. Cheesy romantic movies always have the main guy doing something extravagent to get the girl, I know its probably dumb but maybe if I did something amazing she'd give me a chance. The hours of roaming the streets at 2 am playing Pokemon GO telling stupid jokes and hearing her laugh was so amazing, I love all the time I get with her and wish there were more hours in a day.

Any words /b/rothers? I can give more details if anyone wants, I could really use the talking to.

If she's not interested, then she's not interested, regardless of how you feel.

Don't go for the grand romantic gesture with someone who already shot you down. You'll just look like a faggot.

>>695359435
amen

>>695359435
amen

>>695359435
I know I shouldn't I'm selfish. A part of me just thinks that a big thing might reveal how much I actually care for her, and not just wanting sex or something. A lot of guys fall for her and she turns down all of them, so sometimes I think maybe I need to be something more than just another guy in line.

I'm the faggot of everyone in that group anyway though. I legit feel like a cuck. A month ago she was DM'ing me about issues with her ex and I talked it over with her at 2 am.

>>695359435
Fucking wisdom right here.

>>695359435
amen

>>695359677


I get it /b/ro. We've all been there. Im gonna tell you what i wish soneone told me; Move the fuck on. Save yourself the hurt

>>695359677
>talks with you about her ex

get it you cuck

>>695359677
You could always try for the Devils threesome.

>>695359677
so you're gay>?
men want sex
love comes with sex
if shes not into you it may be because you're soft and not a 'take charge' guy
i've been in this position before
i went for it
we fucked
then i realised i was in love with the thought of her
not her. we still talk from time to time and fuck every so often when neither of us have bf/gf

>>695359896
Give me the advice, I have some ideas, but I think they're going too far.

>>695359933
She's a virgin, only had 1 boyfriend.

>>695360034
I would do anything to become the take charge guy, I'm just not entirely sure what. I have ideas like I said. Also no I'm not actually gay I'm just shitting on myself.

>>695359435
Pretty much this dude, you just have to suck it up and move on, there's nothing you can do to change her mind. No acts, no poems, no romantic gestures will change it. Best thing to do is just find another one. And binge watch porn.

>>695359677
No bro, no. No big reveal, none of that. Nothing will change her mind. Romantic movies are bullshit, this is real life, you need a red pill. Do NOT let yourself be cucked like that. You straight up tell her that she knows you have feelings for her and talking about other guys makes you uncomfortable, and if she tries to make you feel guilty about it, you never speak to that bitch again, plain and simple.

>>695360229
Watching porn has never helped me get over feelings like this. Its not sexual frustration at all, I could wait till marriage for this girl, sex isn't what I want.

Ok I mean it would be nice, but sex is the last thing on my mind when it comes to her.

>>695360345
It doesn't make me uncomfortable at all, it just makes me feel sad. We're such close friends, we spend a lot of time together, she was able to talk to me when she was in need, but something is stopping me from getting closer.

I just want her man. I know I'm young and stupid, but there are several girls I could be with tonight that I don't want. I want her.

>>695360345
You're putting the pussy on a pedestal dude. Go watch 40yo virgin. The guys giving him advice aren't wrong dude. Women ARE stupid.

>>695360495
I actually might give it a watch, I never have seen it. I know women are stupid, I have experience with women, but I'd be willing to put up with anything if it meant I could call her mine.

>>695360483
And starving children and Africa would like some fucking food, but you don't get shit just because you want it more than anyone else, and sometimes, there's no amount of effort or hard would you can put into something and see results. You have to learn to just walk away, and not just with girls either, that shit applies to life in general.

>>695360159
if you would do anything you would have done it
the worse she can say is no and reject you
it is not the end of the world. the quicker you realise that the faster you can get past that barrier. the only way i wouldn't recommend going for it is if it's someone who you see often ie work with. but that is not the case
i believe in persistence. so do not make the gesture untill you get a go signal. anything, it could be a look it could be the way she touches you, if she laughes at jokes that you wouldnt find funny shes game just may be scared to catch feelings/ it may just be a case that she feels theres no point cos you guys live so far away and girls are needy.
read her body language and her word patterns.
best way to see if a girl would like you.
or you could just get nice and drunk and see if she reacts to anything.
if its a no for any of these things. save yourself the hassle. plenty of fish in the sea

>>695360483
Wait til marriage? Are you serious dude? You're beyond help.

Get over it. Create distance. No need to keep confronting yourself with an unattainable fantasy. You kinda sound like an addict really.

Creating distance will also remove the tunnel vision you have right now.

>>695360716
This guy is a potential rapist, do not force shit in 2016 unless you want to go to prison. Rub her the wrong way and she's going to be screaming rape and you're going to be getting buttfucked in jail.

>>695360609
That's true, I know I don't get everything I want, its just hard to accept. I don't know, a part of me just thinks she isn't taking me seriously. I'm the fucking clown of that whole group, I make jokes and rarely any of them have seen me talk about something seriously because I hate that mentality. Part of me thinks that a second try would prove that to her. I'm probably delusional.

>>695360716
We touch all the time. We hug, when she sit any part of us could be touching and it doesn't matter. We're really close, I will always think theres a chance, I'm just scared of losing her. She's a great friend, and I'd hate to fucking scare her away.

>>695360754
right my man? I'm a nut,

>>695360773
We live on opposite sides of a country. We have distance for months. It always comes back.

>>695360828
loooooooooooooooooooooooool
you are a child
and clearly a virgin
or have too much compassion.
the girls i like want a man. not a boy
someone to take charge and show them what they want not asked
'are you ok?'
'was that good for you?'
'how are you feeling'?
trust me when i say girls think about sex as much as men.
they just make it obvious

>>695361005
I appreciate you bumping my thread, but I'd also like some help my man. I'm genuinely not sure what to do and I can't go to my friends with this.

Sorry, I can't take any OP with anime or pokemon seriously. It's obnoxious as fuck. So go end your life.

>>695361143
Thanks for the bump my man, I'll probably end my life a few years down the line who knows.

>>695361005
I'm not going to compare epeens with you, but giving him the advice of getting her drunk, in today's society, with all the feminism and shit, you're going to get him in jail taking advice like that. I get you with the asking "are you ok" and cringy shit like that, you're right that shit is fucking beta as hell and will put you in the friendzone fast, but the other shit, nah man. You gotta be careful as a white man in 2016 trying to get laid. She can "change her mind" up to 24 hours later and still call rape. You gotta be damn sure these days, but then I live in America, so my people are fucked in the head.

>>695361211
>>695361005
Guys this isn't me trying to fuck this chick. As gay as it sounds I want more with her than just that.

>>695360964
Dude... not physical distance! emotional distance... You behave like a fucking doormat the minute she comes to town.
I meant that next time she comes over u should NOT meet up.

>>695361138
if you think theres a chance. go for it
be respectful
but obvious. call her sweetie princess queen
compliment her but not too much. worst she can do is reject you. stop being a fag and do it

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>>695359435
This is the truth OP
of course being a faggot might be better than being a fuckless virgin.

>>695361395
Sweetie princess queen? Only if you're wearing a fucking fedora while you do it, and only as a fucking joke you nob gobbler. Even then, she would still probably cringe.

Holy fucking fuck.

Sweetie princess queen...god damnit Anon...

>>695361370
But c'mon dude she visits 3 times a year tops, shes my friend.

>>695361395
Is it possible to get more advice than "just go for it". I'm not trying to be rude, I'm just not entirely sure what to do. I do have one main idea that I think could work, but I'm afraid it goes too far.

>>695361507
c'mon my man he's just trying to help.

>>695361395
"Sweetie princess queen" oh shit when's the next cringe thread I'm screencapping, my sides are in orbit. Summer ends in a month and I can't wait.

>southern california
Spotted the spic. Just fuck off, shes not interested. You play pokemon and seriously whats gonna happen is youre gonna become a fucking cuck if you keep kissing her ass like that. Who knows, though. Maybe if you keep kissing her ass shes gonna "date" you for a few months with no kissing or fucking involved till she finds a guy to ditch you for.

>>695361704
not a beaner, literally white as hell go fuck yourself. thanks for the bump.

>>695361574
don't worry about that guy.
i don't need to prove anything or justify why i use thoes terms of endeerment cos they fucking work
also what did you have in mind

>>695361288
Then forget it. She dont want you. Even if you surprisingly get her it wont last more than a few months before she completely stops talking to you.

>>695361574
By giving advice like that? Hell no man, either he's fucking trolling you or he's a virgin himself. That is some next level beta right there. Either way he is not fucking helping you. Do NOT use pet names, at all. Let me give you the REAL advice, ok...

1. No fucking pet names since that's fresh in my mind
2. Do not take her shit in any way shape or form. If she does something or says something to piss her off, you tell her.
3. Treat her like she is a fucking man. I'm serious as hell. Do not put the pussy on a pedestal. They're just like you. She is not some princess. If she says she's slept with only 1 guy, she still has probably sucked lots of dicks. See the movie Clerks. (the original)
4. Do not let her walk all over you or take advantage of you. If women want equality in 2016 they can pay for their own meals and movie tickets, ESPECIALLY if they're not fucking you. Hell to the fuck no.

Alpha Anons please add to this list I gotta get ready for work

>>695361774
Thats just fucking sad, man. You white cuck piece of shit playing pokemon.
>literally white as hell
>plays pokemon
>asks for advice on /b/
>too autistic to take rejection

Kys

>>695361839
Ok, so she lives in Norcal, 2 hours from where she lives my homie Jack has a ton of cousins and friends who live out there and I've never visited. I get paid on Friday, I was thinking hit those guys up, drive down 6 hours and be with them for a day or two.

Text her and tell her I decided to visit, plan to get dinner or something with her when she's free, and tell her. I don't know what I would say to be honest, but I can come up with something. I think its a great excuse to go up to her, and I think it could potentially be seen as sweet of me to do something like that for her.

Idk

>>695361995
Virgin, said it once say it again. Literally has done nothing, confirmed from many many sources even the 2 guys who got with her when she was drunk. C'mon man I know I'm not alpha, but I just want this fucking girl, and I don't know how to do it.

>>695361839
Maybe on fucking highschool girls or your grandchildren

Think about it for a second. If a girl called you sweetie prince king, would you not just throw up a little? I know I would. I would run far and fast.

>>695361574
He was obviously saying that to fuck you over. How autistic are you? No wonder you cant get pussy

WAKE UP OP you aren't going to get more than what you have now. Enjoy her as a friend or if you can't do that without obsessing about her like a creepy faggot then try to avoid her. But either way you are not going to be in any type of relationship with her.

>>695362306
As hard as it is to believe, I can SOMEHOW get pussy. It blows me away.

>>695362325
Well thanks for the bump. I'm not gonna argue with you either but I'm not being a creepy faggot. I'm a fucking young guy who hasn't dealt with this before and is asking in a way that wont come back to bite me.

>>695362177
SHE ALREADY REJECTED YOU
If you do that, she's just going to reject you again, why the fuck would it be any different from before? Nothing has changed. Listen dude, when I was young I was a betafag myself, I put myself through a lot of shit before I got where I am today, and I am trying to save your cuck ass from a lot of pain an embarrassment. Stop rejecting the advice. If you bring it up to her again, you will be sorry. If she decides she wants to be with you, she already knows how you feel, and SHE will tell YOU, but don't fucking get your hopes up.

>>695362177
Im done, she clearly said shes not interested, youre clearly autistic and it clearly wouldnt work out. At this point its like youre just trying to humiliate yourself or youre unable fo accept shes not into you. This will only end bad for you OP

>>695358974
Kiss the bitch OP, if she kisses back you're good if she doesn't than rape her.

>>695362177
not a bad idea.
dont ask her when shes free, say to her? im free at 18:00pm wanna go for food? dont ask her where to go, you make the decision, if shes busy go hang with your friends and cousins. if she agrees, just be honest with her. it will either go well or it wont. you wont know till you ask. try not to do anything super romantic till you know you're both on the same page at least to a certain extent

>>695362475
Normally I would agree that its insane but I don't think its that bad to maybe try again. I know of plenty of people who never thought they'd end up with the person they are with, and I've heard plenty of their stories of how they tried and tried.

I may be a fucking beta, I'm here asking for advice, and I'm not rejecting any of it. I'm hearing input, and giving my thoughts, in the hopes I'll find an answer that helps me settle. Don't shit on me cause I'm confused and think theres a chance.

>>695362559
Probably true, but just like I just said, don't shit on me for having hope man. Whats the point of living without hoping.

>>695362666
c'mon my man

>>695358995
Romantic movies are for women. They aren't real life. Do not base your actions on them, as the main characters are always weird stalkers in those.

You fucked up writing a poem, because poems are gay. Post the poem here.

She's not into you dude. She has spent enough time with you to make up her mind. She's an adult capable of knowing how she feels. Just let it go.

>>695362835
You can have hope but she rejected you not long ago, dont be a clingy beta fuck. You said it yourself she turns everyome down, maybe she just doesn't want to be in a relationship atm?

My last bit of advice to you is this dude

Focus on yourself. Be selfish as fuck. Everyone else is these days. Do not make sacrifices for other people if they would not do the same for you, and do NOT just assume that they would, I mean they actually need to be doing shit for you, or fuck them. Work on bettering yourself, first and foremost. Don't like your appearance? Work at it. No amount of pity parties will change it. Need more money? Work a better job or more hours. Not smart enough? Read up motherfucker. There is always a way to be better. When you reach the pinnacle of who you can be, the bitches will flock to you, and I'm aware that you don't care about that shit, but that would be the only thing you could possibly do that would change her mind. None of this persistence shit, you're just going to irritate her and make her hate you. Distance yourself, work on yourself, and in 2 years speak to her again, show her how fucking awesome you've become, and then? Fuck her best friend, because fuck bitches dude. She thinks she's too good for you, that she can do better. She thinks your trash. That doesn't mean that you ARE trash, it just means she's a bitch. So prove her wrong, and if after all that shit you still want to be with her and she's attracted to your success then fine, but that's still a form of cucking yourself, having to bust your ass just to meet her stupid fucking standards.Your goal now is to make her regret rejecting to, in any way you can. Make her want you. You don't do that by harassing her and repeatedly telling her how much you care about her. You do that by making yourself the best you can possibly be. What do you from there is up to you though.

>>695360159
You wrote her a poem. You must at least be a little gay.

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>>695358974

Sometimes the best love comes in the form of a friendship. I would just cherish that for now....a lot of people don't even have someone they can have such a good time with. That being said..... Women want what they can't have. I'm sure that one day you will get a gf and wont have as much time for her and she will realize she has been dumb and THEN SHE WILL WANT YOU.

Patience is key my friend. Do not go for the grand gesture which at this point will fall flat.

>>695360345
How is she the bad guy here? Why is it people who use the term "red pulled" are always angry manbabys?

>>695362835
Bruh I'm giving you the gordon ramsay because I think you need it, don't take my shit talking personally, I just really think you need an awakening, because you're deep in denial atm, you need the tough love that only an asshole like /b/ can give. You were right to come to us with this.

>>695361143

>wants no anime on the biggest weeb board in the world.

you know where you are, right?

>>695362835
>inb4 shes a lesbian

>>695360568
Post a pic of you and of her. We can solve this pretty quickly

>>695363301
this is a good idea anon

>>695361005
This rapist has never consensually got laid

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>>695358974
Got this yesterday


Does it help?

>>695363301
>>695363390
Whoah guys this dude's life sucks enough as it is without us fucking making it any worse, and that's not me being a white knight, that's me being a fucking /b/ro.

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>>695363108

Patience guy here. Don't listen to this fag.... just cause everyone is selfish doesn't mean you should devolve into a mouth breather.

>>695363141
>>695362928

writing poems or whatever is not gay, keep it up. that is just shit dumb assholes who can't write say. When you have been dating someone for years and can actually write them a nice card it means a lot to them
again man...just be patient. persistence is key and by that i mean just stick with being her friend and dont push it or you will lose her entirely. she will come around when she can't have you.... now you are too easy.

>>695361395
Yeah man. Don't be a fag and call her a sweetie princess queen. None of those are totally common gay terms

OP. Youre obviously beta and somewhat a little autistic. How is the girl? Is she a 6/10? Is she also some private school insecure bitch or something? If shes not a beta fuck, she wont date you ever.

>>695361995
It's super beta to think about dicks like that, homo.

>>695362819
Ok, make the plans and choose the place. Sounds good. I didn't plan on saying anything too crazy, fuck man to be honest I'm not even sure what I would say. I wouldn't be able to do it in the public place, we'd for sure head somewhere after. If im gonna do this I need to think it out, just not sure what I would even say to her. I'd be lying if I said the fear of failure is killing me.

>>695362928
I know romantic movies are for women. I hear girls rave all the time about how "they'd love if a guy did something like that" and I also know the set ups in movies are way too extreme to be realistic.

I'm saying the concept, the concept of taking the extra mile for her. But maybe you're right, she could have thought this all out, but whats wrong with asking for a chance at least?

Also I would post the poem, but she has it. I wrote it on fucking paper.

>>695363024
Thats fair, maybe she doesn't. But how could I be totally sure if I don't make one last attempt? Maybe it could be something else entirely.

>>695363108
As much as I know this is a joke, the thought of her being sad about rejecting me makes me depressed. This girl is one of the nicest I've met in my life, she doesn't deserve that kind of shit my man.

>>695363187
Maybe this is true, but I feel like the more I wait the less of a chance there will be. I'm fucking stupid.

>>695363242
but other people think theres a chance, doesn't that mean anything? or is the denial really that bad?

>>695363284
I'd actually kms

>>695363301
>>695363390
Man I would love to, thing is you guys are monsters and that image would ruin me. Sorry guys.

>>695363424
Hey that's p good, I caught my first Pikachu yesterday with her, we were both happy and she was cute as fuck about it.

>>695363451
Thanks /b/ro, I think.

>>695363499
maybe you guys are right. I'm just scared of losing her.

>>695363542
I'm like a 5 or 6/10. To me shes a 10/10, obviously. You guys would probably think shes a 6 I think.

Also she isn't beta fml

>>695363499
Asshole again, this guy isn't entirely wrong in telling you not to be a selfish scumbag. I'm telling you that because you're so NOT selfish, that being as selfish as you can possible be is going to land you in the right spot. Being a total dick won't get you far though, he's got me on that one. Writing poems for someone who already loves you is fine sure, but not if it's someone who has rejected you. Grills are not attracted to desperation.

>>695363725
I know, thats why I was hoping for some alpha advice. I honestly thought my road trip idea was decent...

>>695363451
Nah not for that reason man. This is probably some fat nerd who thinks his "personality" means this way hotter broad should date him.

>>695363834
I'm 128. I'm kind of tan, honestly 5 or 6/10 nothing too great. I have friends who think I'm funny, she thinks I'm really funny...

C'mon man please don't shit on me this is already bummin me out.

>>695363499
This isn't someone who has been together forever. In that case, it's ok to write poetry when you forget to get a real gift. If you're not dating, poems reek of desperation, and are a joke to all her friends. Poetry doesn't take skill. Rappers do it all the time.

>>695363663
Well sorry to say it but you have pretty pathetic tastes like weab shit and pokemon. Does she have similar interests to yours? If not, sorry man but theres really no way its ever gonna work out.

>>695363834
You don't need pictures for that

How much you weigh OP?
How much she weigh?
If you're American, this is a decent rating category, it will at least give us some idea

>>695358974

Mate, it's good that you told her, that's courage right there. But don't give her any more attention without getting anything in return. Cut all ties with her and move on.

If you continue with being friends she is just gonna feel great and you will feel bad. Just move on.

>>695363940
128? Either you're a child or a manchild....how old are you? How tall?

>>695363663
What do you mean "a chance"? She obviously gave you a chance and decided you weren't for her. She probably wants a man is all.

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>>695358974
Man the way you write I can't handle that bullshit you pretty much represents that Fucking Pikachu how old are you man you are so fucking soft and sympathetic.

Girls want a man who are in charge even if they are a big ugly criminal nigger.

The best advice I can tell you is work on yourself and stop talking to this fucking cunt.
Pic unrelated

>>695363940
>128
ayyyyy i knew your were skinny, small and weak

>>695363663
Make the pic untraceable.

>>695362448
I don't really mean you are being an obsessive creep I honestly see a bit of my younger self in you and I am trying, probably in vain, to smack some reality into you. I have been where you are, I have had several friends be in your position and the girl never ends up fall for us. The only thing that happens is you will walk around for a while, possibly a long while, in a depression and not even attempt to date anyone else.

Imagine a girl you have zero interest in and then think of her thinking about you nonstop and mooping around hoping you will fall in love with her. This will give you a good understanding of just how repulsive acting like this is to this girl you like.

Basically OP
>Forget her, move on
>Work on yourself, because you sound like you need it, no offense but seriously /b/ro,

>>695363818
The only good advice is to move on. You don't need to treat her like a fucking child who can't make up her own mind.

>>695363940
How short are you?

>>695358974
Stop being a greedy little fuckin bitch and get your own slut, faggot

>>695364084
I meant 128 kilos

You see all these people raging at you? Do you know why they're raging, first and foremost? It's because all of us, every single one, have fucking been there before. We know how much it sucks. We know dude. So you need to listen to what we're telling you. Even guys you see that are alpha as fuck were hurt by some girl at some point, they just learned faster.

>>695363965
Not a fucking weeb man, c'mon. We have a lot of similar interests. We like the same shows, we make the same kind of jokes, we both like art and making art, like the same kind of music, I know that sounds generic but its 5:30 am and I haven't slept cause of this thread, just know we honestly are really close friends with a lot in common,

>>695363992
I'm 128, barely any muscle tone but so skinny I have a visible 6 pack, I'm fucking gay. I have no idea what she weights to honest, maybe 140? Idk

>>695364012
But at least if I make her happy she'll be happy. I like it when shes really happy, its cute.

>>695364084
19, 5'8. I have a digestion problem so its hard to gain weight.

>>695364098
I was hoping some of you alpha /b/ros can teach me the ways.

>>695364108
thanks for the bump my man

>>695364126
thanks for the bump, and yeah true.

>>695364136
lol

>>695364226
I have a handful of girls who want to fuck. I'm gonna get my dick sucked later this week and stop talking to them. Its easy to get laid, I don't want to get laid.

>>695364236
>>695364257
I know but like, c'mon.

>>695364320
pretty, only 5'8. feelsbad

>>695364338
fuck off chad she's mine.

>>695364421
See i read all these posts and I'm about to accept that, but then some people in this thread revive the hope in me. Did you read my roadtrip plan? I think its pretty decent >>695362177

>>695358974
Jack and Jill huh? Who're you then, Hank HILL? FUCK OFF FAGGOT.

Also, get you some pootang.

>>695364366
So not American? You can thank god for that. American women are giant cunts, if that helps explain some of my reasoning.

There are no romantic movies where at the wedding, she tells her friends "I kept giving him obvious signals that I just wanted to be friends. The he wrote a stupid poem, and I had to firmly reject him. But when he showed up where I live, like a typical serial killer, THAT is when I knew I'd spend my life with him."

Sounds more like she thinks she'd spend the rest of her life with you, locked in your basement.

>>695363961
Shut the fuck up you fag, that's not poetry. Real poetry is fucking hard as shit.

>>695364612
that wasn't OP. FML

Me and Jackie are both American.

>>695364606
FUCK I'VE BEEN SPOTTED

also I am later this week.

>>695364651
Dude come the fuck on. I know you're just trolling me but me texting her "Hey I'm in Norcal visiting Jack's cousins, wanna hang out before I leave?" Isn't fuckin creepy.

Fuck off, thanks for bump.

>>695364594
If anyone here is trying to give you hope, it's because they're assholes and they're trolling you, probably spiteful kissless virgins. There's no hope dude, I already told you, the ONLY hope you have to get her, specifically, would be to work on yourself and turn yourself into someone she could see herself with, and that shit takes time, but harassing her (and that's what it is if you keep asking her why why why and repeatedly telling her you like her and hitting on her and shit, she's just going to remove you from her life completely if you keep that shit up) is not the way.

Hope is the first step on the road to disappointment.

>>695364594

Ok nevermind you obviously didn't understand my post it had zero to do with you fucking or having the ability to get laid. I assume this has all been bullshit have fun.

>>695364594
Your road trip plan is even beta. You're giving yourself an out by saying you are seeing friends, because even you know you will fail. She's going to reject you again and again dude

I'm a skinny prick too OP, but if you're tall and skinny like me with a size 13 shoe you have to be straight up and tell these bitches you have a 9inch cock. I mean; don't if you don't have a 9inch cock but if you do the ones that want it get it and if they don't they can fuck dudes with little cocks. I'm 6'2" 150 so I know skinny bruh. It doesn't stop me. Also, for the love of God, don't FUCKING PLAY POKEMON GO WITH GIRLS YOU WANT TO FUCK. Its pathetic, and only the "mainstream nerd" archetype is into doing that shit with other people.

>>695364764
Then you lied about kilos, you're 128 pounds just admit it. We don't use that system here, and lying about it any further is going to be embarrassing.

>>695364759
No it's like entry level art. They get children to write poetry before they can spell.

>>695364764
It's very fucking creepy because you're lying to her

>>695365093
This, you need to tell her you're coming to visit HER. And if she cringes at the idea then that's your fucking answer right there. If she's actually excited to see you then maybe that's a step in the right direction at least but I still wouldn't get my hopes up.

>>695365007
If you can't write, don't diss the art.

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>>695358974
Bro, you probably just need to learn how to greentext and she will probably do you

>>695365230
It's literally art for children, homosexual men, and men who forget anniversaries

Jack off Jack and become a submissive butt slut.

Honestly, there is hope for you to get with her, in about 20 years after she's fucked a bunch of guys and decides she wants a fucking softie that she can settle down with, have a bunch of kids, and then divorce and rack up child support. That's where your kind of mindset leads. /b/ doesn't try to help people very often, usually we'd just call you a fucking pleb cuck and tell you to fuck off (most have), so you need to take this as a fucking sign.

>>695365196
This is better.

Since op is obsessed with harassing this girl more, and undermining her feelings, he should just tell her he's coming to visit. When she is justifiably creeped out, he just saved 12 hours of driving and gas.

>>695365308
I'm sorry you have such a dull mind, anon.

Here are your options OP


Option 1: (this is what i think is the best option) you tell her you can't hang out with her anymore because it kills you inside. You move on. GG

Option 2: You don't tell her anything and stop meeting her/ignore her. You move on, you will seem like a dick. GG

Option 3: You stay friends with her, possibly for years. She one day starts having feelings for you too. You win. GG

Option 4: You stay friends with her. She finds a boyfriends, has a happy life. You wasted years, feel like shit and are a beta faggot. You lose. GG

Option 5: You tell her you can't meet her anymore because it kills you. She realizes how much she means to you. She might see you in a new light. You might possibly win. GG(?)

I think you should just tell her the truth, get it over with and move on.

Who knows maybe you might meet her again in 5 years and things will be different but for now she's clearly not into you

>>695365399
Dubs don't lie

2 steps:
-rape
-kill

No particular order is required

>>695365434
I don't, so I don't have to pretend to be a straight adult who is into poetry.

>>695364894
Alright, I'm starting to buy into this...

>>695364943
Its not me knowing I'm gonna fail, its a good way to make it a coincidence. Its called a plan my man c'mon its not that fucking beta. Thats pretty much what she does to us when she visits its the same shit, and she would love to see me if I did visit. I may be asking for advice, but I know her well enough to say that.

>>695364944
5 inch cock... fuck me. Also I like the game? Kill me lmao

>>695364990
I DIDN'T SAY KILOS THAT WAS A TROLL NOT ME

>>695365093
No its not. I am actually down to visit my friends I rarely see and I always wanted to visit Norcal but never really had the chance till recently. Its more like a white lie.

>>695365196
Honestly though I can understand this, but IDK if I have the balls to do that. I know she would be happy and excited at the idea, maybe I'll try to arrange this? She won't cringe I know this for a fact, I'm one of her best friends even though I know a lot of you don't believe that.

>>695365284
TRU

>>695365312
If i was gay I wouldn't be a bottom.

>>695365392
thanks for de bump lol

>>695365399
again, she won't be creeped out.

>>695365451
Options 3 and 5 seem viable. Problem with 5 is I think its beta as fuck to pretty much tell her I cant hang out with her cause of how I feel, it feels like a coin flip and thats scary.

>>695365502
I wouldn't even rape her given the perfect chance. Shes too pure.

>>695365451
Options 1,2 and 5 are pathetic man

Honestly the only time I've ever bothered with poetry is for a bitch to try and get laid, if you're legit into poetry because you like it, you're either Shakespeare or you're a fag. And this isn't the Elizabethan era so that pretty much narrows it down.

>>695365505
So by your logic, rhyming is gay and by proxy all songs are gay? Holy crap aren't you smart.

>>695365632
It's not a coincidence though. That's a total lie. So let me ask you this. If you're big romantic gesture is to lie to her and you don't respect her feelings or words, why do you think she'd be happy with you?

>>695365196
Hey would it be OK if I told her i was gonna visit and bring Jack?? I know thats me pussying out but I'm honestly scared. If I need to alpha it out tell me, I'll think about it and text her.

>>695365726
Yeah pretty much. Those millions of guys who write awful acoustic guitar songs are totally gay. The one in a million bands that are good aren't gay. There are always exceptions.

>>695365842
In my eyes it would come off more like this

"O my god, he drove 6 hours to actually see me, not for everyone else. Thats so sweet"

and it would be flattering. But hey man I'm just sitting on ideas right now, nothing is set in my mind. thats why I'm here.

>>695365852
Why would you bring another dude? How grand of a gesture is that?

"I brought my friend, who is going to listen to us bang for 28 seconds in the other room".

>>695366015
Why do you think you need to do anything after she already rejected you? She probably has a bf where she lives, who isn't a total creep. She just doesn't tell you because she knows you're a ticking time bomb and will spazz out.

I kinda wanna start a drawpoll, I know that sounds dumb as fuck but all these replies it makes it hard to keep track of what everyone thinks.

Would you guys even vote on this?

>>695366112
OK you're right, that was just my pussy reflexes. If I do it, I go alone.

>>695366228
thanks for the bump

>>695366243
No don't go at all. She already said no.

>>695366278
That post is totally true and you're in denial if you can't see that.

>>695365852
>text her

You don't even phone her?

>>695366280
c'mon man you're no fun, its been like 9 months since then. In all actuality you don't think there is any odds of her realizing maybe its worth a try if I do it?

>>695366336
I know its not true cause I know her? I know at one point she wasnt interested in me, but shes my fuckin friend and I know she doesn't think of me as low as you guys think. Thanks for another bump.

>>695366389
I mean I could, I usually text everyone since I don't wanna be rude and possibly call when shes at work or some shit.

>>695366506
What do you mean worth a try?

A 6 hour distance means you're pen pals, not dating

You are asking /b/ dude... 99℅ of guys here talk about beta and alpha all day even tho the only dating "experience" they have are fucking visual novels and dating sims. The real world isn't as simple as people try to paint it. There's no guarantee that she would ever like you and there is no guarantee that she won't ever like you.

The best tip anyone can give you is that just talking it out with her might seems scary as fuck to you but is really your best option. If she really doesn't like you you need to accept that, remove her from your life and move on. It might hurt you, it might make people think you're a pussy faggot because you have feelings and shit but you know the great thing about life is it's absolutely irrellevant what people think about you.

>>695365852
You need to just keep loving her and trying to hang out with her every chance you get. And worship her like the goddess she is. Also cry a lot and never date any other girls. If you do all that long enough eventually you will be in your late 40s, she will be married to a real man and you will have become asexual and not care that you are alone.

>>695366753
She already said no, and instead of moving on, op has spent 9 months obsessing about her thinking she's too dumb to know what she wants

>>695366816
So that's a yes to the road trip ?

>>695366570
I mean that maybe us being a couple is worth a try. Maybe it could actually work out.

>>695366676
If she feels the same way, thats good enough for me. It'd make me happy as fuck.

>>695366753
I guess you might be right... I just don't wanna rob her of the short time she has when she comes to visit with my dumb drama. thats why I thought about driving up.

>>695366816
Literally several women want to fuck, I can date girls faggot.

>>695366851
I only get this feeling when she comes to visit, it subsides when until I see her again and then want to die for a while.

Thanks for the bump.

>>695366506
You're an idiot. You're just deluding yourself and when you actually do it and she rejects you, you'll become as bitter as all of us and will forever think that you should have listened to the anons in the thread. Spare yourself all the bullshit and get an escort.

Listen OP, if she said no and if you try to go after her again, you're going to seem desperate, which is a no-no with women. They enjoy being chased, and they enjoy teasing and having pathetic losers like yourself look up at them like they're some deity. But they're not. And you have to keep that in mind. No woman you will ever meet is a Goddess. No matter how much you love her, she's not perfect. Keep that in mind.

You have to get her to chase you, not vice-versa. But you fucked up and wrote a faggy poem about your love. That's pathetic. And women don't like pathetic. You fucked up and now you have a very slim chance of actually getting anywhere with this girl. The only thing I'd advise you to do now is to show her that you're not interested at all at her anymore. The key is to get her to want your attention, and whenever she does, you refuse it (but not in a douchey way).

Basically just chill her out. Don't look up at her, and look at other girls. She's not perfect, just imagine her taking a huge shit.

Find other women and chill this girl out, if she takes the bait you proceed from there, if not - continue with life.

>>695366851
what i meant by "talking it out with her" was just telling her that his feelings haven't changed and therefore he has to stop seeing her for his own sake. It sounds like a pussy thing to say but it's obviously the truth. It doesn't matter what she thinks of him afterwards anyways

>>695367053
This, asshole guy here, girls want you to want them, but NOT need them, if that makes any sense to you.

Usually just a lurker here but this hit right in the feels

I was literally in a really similar situation last year, get really close to this cool girl, fall pretty hard, claim "I don't care about sex I'm just looking for a deep meaningful relationship" she's not interested. Had very little self-confidence, kiss-less virgin, general cuck. Basically she knew I liked her but still hung out, and I just ended up getting rejected over and over again and fucking hating myself.

My advice: Move the fuck on bro. You came here asking for advice and you've been told this so many times already. Trust me I know it's hard af, but focusing all your time and energy on one person who just doesn't feel the same way isn't worth it, especially if you barely see them. I ended up just completely removing that chick from my life and things ended up so much better. Ended up in a relationship, finally lost my v card and shit and started actually having some confidence and belief in myself.

Stop worrying about other people so much man and start looking out for yourself, your still young af and there is soooo much more to life than one person.

tl:dr: move on, you know it's the only real solution

>>695366985

She already decided it wasn't "worth it". Why do you think she's so dumb she can't decide?

>>695367097
This is what babies do. Adults realize not everyone will like them.

>>695366967
c'mon man don't mock me, I'm just trying to get some help

>>695367005
I know its hard to believe I don't have sex, I wouldn't believe it either. Its honestly not my issue.

Thanks for the bump.

>>695367053
>>695367170

she already wants to see me everytime she comes down and really enjoys it. She wants me, just to my knowledge not in the same way.

Do I really have to cut it all off?

>>695367097
I like the way this guy thinks of me. I'm afraid of losing her, but I feel like I would regret not trying again more than just keep living.

>>695367244
fuck man...

>>695367274
I'm not calling her dumb. I said this in an earlier reply.>>695360964

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>>695366967
Yes if movies and books have thought me anything its that a if you have issues before a Road Trip they will be resolved by the end. Although some times in ways you might not have predicted.

>>695367053
This. Just dont be desperate. Thats the key.

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Welcome to reality.

>>695367435
You need mental help dude. Not 4chan help. She already said no.

>>695367469
i laughed

>>695367480
but isn't that better than sitting like this? I'm being serious when I ask this.

>>695367531
This is seriously the most harmless thing I can do. O no, I'm askin for advice in a way that people will be honest cause they don't have to worry about face?

Thanks for the bump.

>>695367435
Oh the clown of the group. No wonder she won't date you. You don't have a personality

>>695367435
Women are snakes. Like it or not. You don't have to 'cut it all off', but put her in your life as a second option. Choose other things over her. Watch her react. Ignoring women is a fine art, takes practice. Don't cut her off as in never talk to her again, but keep her as plan B. Watch her how she reacts to all of this, then you will know whether you have a chance or not. Most likely no. Best advice is to move on.

>>695367640
People are being honest to you and you keep being wilfully ignorant. It's because obvious that you already have an answer to the question you're asking within your own head, and are just looking for validation from others. Not finding that validation, you'll stop your ears up and do what you were going to do anyway.

>>695367640
What advice is there? She has already said no.

>>695366985
So what is your problem?

Here is the real solution OP:

The problem is that you think she's a perfect flawless angel because you never see her disgusting fucked up moments that would make you respect her less. So the obvious solution is finding her flaw by stalking her 24/7. Install some cameras and microphones and follow her around secretly and once you find something that makes you like her less, jump out of the bush and scream "YOU'RE NOT PERFECT ANYMORE!" at her. Then once you had your ass fucked in the jail-shower you visit her and tell her you're alpha now because you were in jail. She will then proceed to finger your anus. Happy ending

>>695358974
Bruh you are literally friendzoned
No memeing here, you are friendzoned.
I can help you get out, but tell me, what did she say when she first rejected you exactly?

>>695367747
thanks for the bump

>>695367812
the problem is that out of the women I have been with, the ones that currently want to be with me, and the ones I could pursue if I wanted to, I don't want to be with.

>>695367879
I know this is a troll, but no I don't think shes perfect. I've learned that thinking that way is a mistake. I'm falling for this girl because of her personality, the way she acts, they way she is.

Look guys, as much as I don't want to, I could try talking to Jack or Jill about this. Jill has been friends with her since she was a kid, but I'm afraid of her telling Jackie and making things awkward, but Jill is a good friend of mine I've known her for a few years.

Maybe talking it out with them would be a good idea.

>>695368060
The friendzone is bullshit. If she doesn't wanna be with me, she doesn't wanna be with me for whatever reason. I'm not using that shitty excuse for being rejected.

>>695368060
She said eew then threw up violently then her boyfriend laughed. I still have a chance right?

>>695368139
She already said she doesn't want to be with you. How many times do you need to harass her before you believe her?

>>695368203
fuck off

>>695368060
sorry I honestly didn't read the last few lines of your post. I would sayyyy late December.

>>695368333
thanks for the bump.

>>695368139
Friendzone is real.
It's when a girl knows you like them but they don't like you, but they still want you to be really close friends.

That's what you are in my man.

>>695368387
Why do you just respond to logic with "thanks for the bump"? You'll have to enter the real world eventually

>>695364594
Roadtrip idea is great if you just want to be friends, she wont fall for you though

>>695368865
not even percentage odds? Like 0%

If you love a girl and she doesn't love you:

Whatever decision seems like the most painful and scary to you is propably the best decision you can make. Your number 1 priority should be yourself OP and if meeting this girl fucks with you you need to stop meeting her, even if it sucks for everyone involved.

If the people around you can't respect that you put your mental well-being first then their opinions should not matter to you anyways.

>>695368944
There is a significantly higher chance she will never speak to you than there is she will fall for you.

>>695368952
I'm not gonna say love, but I am falling for her.

Maybe you're right, a lot of people have the same idea.

>>695368778
I have plenty of answers replying to these questions, thats why.

>>695359677
Okay, then. Let me tell you something. If you really think that's true, then all you have to do is make her like you. You could do it with a large gesture, and risk it failing, or you could do it slowly, and subtly. You objective here is to flip the tables, become the alpha, and make her ask you out.

I've read enough stories here to know that if she hasn't got a boyfriend, turns down any guy that tries it on with here, turns you down, even though you get on as good as you say you do.

MAYBE....she has issues, some mental problems, trust in men?, parental issues?, daddy issues?

maybe she doesn't want to get close to someone, and if thats the case, you should just tell her how you feel etc before she possibly commits suicide or some shit.

tell her and if she knocks you back again, thats it OP there will be no relationship but you can still be friends, but atleast you know thats it no boyfriend/girlfriend shit is going to happen.

>>695369480
But the simple answer is she already said no.

>>695369035
Op for fucks sake. You know it's not going to work out, you know it's probably best to move on, you know your in the friendzone, so go keep rejected until she stops talking to you and waste months of your life depressed over one stupid ass girl or just FUCKING MOVE ON.

Sorry bro but shit happens. Your digging yourself a hole and your fucked either way so your best to find someone else

Op is going to drive 6 hours, she will reject him, AGAIN, then op will somehow blame women and say all women are fucking whores. Typical manbaby story.

>>695367640
Honestly you should take any excuse to go on a Road Trip so yes go.

>>695370388
hell yeah this guy gets it

>>695359435
OP you got the right advice from the first anon, but you won't take it because you are clutching at straws that there is still a chance. Either be friend zoned and cling to hope or fuck her off and work on yourself, your choice

Words of wisdom here

>>695368952

here

>>695367244

and here

>>695366753

OP you already got the solution. Don't talk your way out of it you know what to do.

>this thread

And people fucking wonder why I'm celibate.

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Cheer up OP. Here's a painting I did for u