German military, 8 years now.
Spent more then 2 years in Afghanistan, good money, couple good memories, a lot more bad memories and a mild PTSD.

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Army here. Still in. Was worth joining.
Pros:
-was engaged to a cunt who cheated, stole my $, and claimed i raped her or a friend.
-now that im free of her I went from 4 partners to over 30. Dog tags drop panties.
-trained to be a killer
-good benefits
-difference in attitude and drive

Cons:
-hurry up and wait
-bull shit officers
-bull shit rules of engagement
-bull shit pc bull shit. somehow girls want to fulfill all the same roles while an 18 yr old girl has to meet the standard of a 59 yr old man. and they like to scream sexual harassment over everything ruining careers

>>688562044
US btw

>>688562044
is the training difficult?

>>688560167
United states navy
5 years
Regret it pretty sure the denge fever drugs they gave me caused health problems.
G.i. bill is good, plus learned a trade

>>688562044
Ranger, SOF?

>>688563486
In my country there's a dengue epidemic every year during the rainy season when the mosquito breeds. The government keeps saying they can't do much about it because there's no known vaccine or remedy for it.
Either my government is lying to me or the US Navy is to you.

US Army infantry, will take questions for any /b/ tards

>>688562044
>trained to be a killer

Im all for the military but some of you guys cant fight worth a shit and are better off at pushing a broom.
Thats my personal experience though.

>>688562632
Its not hard depending on if you like being physical and active. If you arent a fat fuck and once you learn the game the Drill Sgt's stop fucking with you. Honestly I would do basic all over again because it was the most fun Ive had. I wrestled for 4 yrs and was still in decent shape. didn't join till i was 22

>>688563985
Nah. CBRN within an infantry unit. just got slotted for air assault. no date yet.

>>688564317
what type infantry? im interested in learning more

>>688564261
Your country sucks

>>688560167
Current 4C0X1 Mental Health Tech, regret joining but being medically boarded out. Probably going to get >50% disability payment after 3 years of being in. Not getting GI bill but having higher than 50% is going to be fucking great.

>>688564455
I agree there are some people who shouldn't be in and cant fight at all. and they let a lot of fatfucks continue to stay in. Most of the women Id say shouldn't be front line combat. but there is a few I would totally support.

>>688564610
I'm in a heavy weapons company so we're motorized. Mob around in hummves and laugh at the others that have to ruck everywhere.

>>688560167
Army is a fucking joke.

>>688564610
there is just infantry. once you get that blue cord it doesnt matter if you are airborne or mechanized. you are an infantryman

>>688560167
Im blind in one eye and ive been in for 9 years. I 100% know you can get in for shitty eyesight. I got in, blind in one eye and 20/90 in my right eye. Fucking idiot

>>688564866
poor legs.

Retired submariner 24 years. Would do it all over again.

>>688565257
one of my coworkers was in 10 years spent 8 as a submariner. he made hella bank

I'm wanting to go Marine Corps infantry. I weigh 290 but I'm also losing weight and getting in better shape, should I join? I'm good with following orders and I'm ready to take the life of a raghead

Left the Navy Seals for delta force. I like it better.

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>>688565749
lolz

>>688565630
yea lose like 110 lbs if you are around 5'8'' and join.

>>688565977
6'3"

>>688560167

Was USAF. 3C0X2 then 3D0X4 after the comm career got fucked with. Programmer either way. Single duty station for all 6 years I was in. No TDY, No Deployments. Felt like a corporate job where I didn't have to think about what I was wearing. Good experience, above average from what I've heard. Leadership is comprised of those that didn't get a better opportunity elsewhere at least where I was. Glad I got out though. Trained in programming with no college debt.

>>688564866
you been deployed?

>>688565977
ye id say hit like 205 to 215 then join. they are wierd about standards. you can actually be flagged for being underweight

>>688564603
Don't air assault have to do SERE?

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I'm looking to earn a commission with the United States Air Force or the Navy. I'm interested in Intelligence, Public Affairs, Security Forces, or anything else engaging that will let me travel. For Navy I'm interested in becoming Surface Warfare Officer. I'm overweight and the recruiters won't talk to me until I get down to the qualifying weight, but aside from some DQ'ing factors I may have to fudge to get through MEPS I think I have a good shot. Any advice about the USAF or Navy in general?

>>688565630
Height? Fat or at least some muscle?
Anyhow, too fat mate.
Expect to run 15-30 miles with another 60-120lbs equipment on your back. can you do that?
Also, what if you get wounded? do you expect your whole squad to drag you arround if that happens?

>>688566421
no. we get limited slots for the unit for schools.

>>688566219
Nope. Every single one that I've been scheduled to go on either got cancelled or given to another unit.

I've been out of the army for 4 years now. Let me give some of you current queers some advice:

+Have a plan when you get out. Seriously. Get a job lined up, a real one, and make sure it's a secured deal that you have the job once you ETS. Don't get out and chill on money you've saved or whatever. You'll be in trouble.
+Dont make being a veteran your whole life. Civilians find it cool for a while, they may ask some questions or treat you a bit better, but they generally don't give a fuck much past that. Also, they don't *get* the stories and shit, either. We use too many acronyms and use equipment that they've never seen before, much less handled. They cannot understand the stories just through the "language" barrier alone.
+Get your wisdom teeth pulled out before you ETS. Just do it.

>>688566627
I'm 5'3", good amount of muscle
Working on that fat issue
Not in the current shape I'm in, but in the end, yeah I'll be able to
I'm not expecting anybody to drag me around if that happens. If I can't get up to walk on my own when I'm wounded, than I'm better off dead in that moment

>>688567368
Typo. I'm 6'3"

>>688564317
Ever wish you went airborne? Just signed papers with airborne option, OSUT soon enough. Any tips? Going in E4

>>688560167

British Army
Intelligence

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>Paratrooper
>Brazil

Pay is shit so I don't want to follow a military career when I'm 28+, but I definitely don't regret joining. Learned so much and became a completely different person. I look at my old school friends and I'm glad I chose this life for now.

US Army POG here. 68k, medical lab tech. It's pretty good, getting an associates degree from my AIT. Will take questions

>>688567561
What exactly do you do? Recon?

>>688567933

Unless you are attached to a Pathfinder Coy you won't be doing any reccy, plus the pay is exactly the same as far as I'm aware so there isn't the incentive to do it.

Beforehand I was just operational intelligence, sending out the Estonians to smash up Helmand cause they didn't have bullshit ROEs, now I'm in Signals Intelligence, completely different field but interesting nonetheless.

>>688560167
>What country/branch do you serve in?

IDF. Out now, did my 3 years conscription, then another 3 because fuck it. had no idea what else to do with my time. now i'm in the states.

>Do you regret joining or would you do it again?

Don't have much of a choice. I'm not haredi and you need to do your term if you want any place to hire you

Wasn't too bad overall. would probably go back in.

>>688568533
no homo but every young israeli guy seems fit as fuck, is that because you all have to serve or is fitness culture big over there regardless?

>>688560167
Army - 10 years in

>>688567533
Don't think you're hot shit because you're coming in as an E4 especially when you get to your unit. You're not the same as the specialist that has been in for 2 years. Might try to go airborne when I re-enlist.

>>688568533
basic training is a decent workout. not sure i'd say its a big fitness culture overall

maybe its less shitty food or because everything is either default kosher or halaal? i've never given it much thought.

>>688569368
meant for >>688568771

I ship to MCRD:SD on Monday June 13th

>>688569833
Are you nervous? You feel prepared?

>>688564261
Its a drug to prevent infection look it up. Does not work well was experimentalm watch how you talk to me sandrat.

>>688562044
I was active duty for 6 years, (12B) and I can confirm this is indeed true. So much fucking PC bullshit.

>>688570195
I forgot to add...so glad I got out before females could do my job. Until they make PT standards the same, it's a fucking joke and everyone knows it.

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>>688570195
death by powerpoint is absolutely infuriating. "dont rape" sharp brief like every 3 months

>>688570425
I had to deal with so many sharp sharks. they all wanted the dick and i wanted left alone. and everyone knows its a joke all the 11b's are pissed as fuck

>>688569170
what this guy said. i went into bct as an e4 and got the shit smoked out of me because of it. after the first week i quit wearing my rank just to blend in with the e-nothings.

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>>688570515
My eye just twitched a little.

>>688568771
also if you're smart but just naturally kind of a fat fuck, they'll stick you in comm/intel or maybe medical corp.

knew one girl like that. parents were russian immigrants and she was kind of chubby. she did intel.

>>688560167
German Military,
unit most compareable with US Marines,
been here since 9 years, participated 6 deployments, totally worth it

>>688570715
>got the shit smoked out of me because of it
elaborate?

>>688570961
Can you say where those deployments were?

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>>688570739

United States Navy Fmf Corpsman, did 10 years till the fuckwads medically retired me. I would rejoin if the asshats would let me. I have 2 deployments also.

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>>688571144
mostly KFOR and ISAF and EUTM Mali once.
Will be EUTM Mali next too.

also checked.

>>688561443
Same canada armyfag here. Couple tours myself. Same boat /b/ro. Keep your head up and dont dwell on shit or chase the bottle. Cheers.

>>688571847
which was the toughest deployment? any interesting stories?

I head to MCRD: PI in September. I'm definitely nervous. I need to get my running in check. But I feel like I'll never be ready, I just want to be okay compared to everyone else

>>688571059
because there were only 2 or 3 other e4's in our company and we got singled out for "thinking we were hot shit", which of course we didn't but the DS's will fuck with you for anything that stands out. they also know that you have a college degree coming in as an e4 (i'm assuming you have one or prior service) and will probably end up going to OCS so they fuck with you for that too. whatever you do, if you're a 09S, keep that shit quiet as fuck for as long as possible. trust me.

or were you asking about getting smoked? that's just having to do push ups, run, low crawl, sit in the front leaning rest position etc

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>>688560167
US Navy, 4 years.

I do no regret it. Got me a a trade, work experience, a clearance, a house, and free college/ healthcare, free travel around the world, and friends for life.

My advice if you join: only take a technical MOS/ rate adn try and get a clearance. It is a complete waste of time if you go in and dig shitholes for 4 years. Get into something like IT, Intelligence, electrician, crypto, etc.

Marines, best time i ever had.

>>688571847
I did IFOR and SFOR, worked with you guys on both deployments. Unlike some of the other countries I had to work with, I liked all of the Germans.

>>688564317
How many Camel jokeys you've killed

>>688571596
how many times did you get cycled from green to blue?

>>688572029
Well... there is not that much to tell really.
Had about 23 Combat Situations in which 17 resulted in fire exchanges.
Rekt a few Dingos [german equivalent to HMMW] and got shot in the shoulder once.

Always asked to go to flash points since i dont have family.
Toughest situation would be taking fatal force against child soldiers the first time.
Everything else is pretty much the same.

>>688572820
I wish they'd let me shoot kids

little rock throwing fucks.

>>688572087
im not in the service, was just asking about getting smoked, that sounds rough man

>>688572820
Amerifat heir

Hast du ein "foreign legion"? Auch, hallo von freunde gegeneuber die see.

>>688572310
3 times I tried to stay in a green billets as much as I could

>>688572267
cheers mate, IFOR was before my time though

>>688573241
You haven't truly lived until you've done the dying cockroach and a few hours of "front, back GO".

>>688573488
wtf are those?

>>688560167
Canadian army

Do it OP, you'll have to work harder than you ever have in your life but you'll love it

>>688573408
I just wanna run around with marines and give people hang over helpers. Any way to stay with the fun guys as long as possible?

>>688560167
Finland

We have conscription so I pretty much had to go to the military.

Served in a navy branch which specialized in ship boarding and other marine spec ops shit.

Was really cool and tried to get into peace keeping but no dice.

It was easy living there for a year but I don't really long for it. Especially since we don't get payed well when conscripted and then wanted to get on with my life so I didn't stay in the military.

>>688573260
Haha well said. I do not understand the question though unfortunately, im sorry.
Greetings back, amerifags really did a great job and it was always a pleasure working with you guys

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>>688565749
Edgy

British army

>>688573980
You just have to request the billet and hope

>>688574056
Do you (Der Heer) have a foreign legion? Does the Bund recruit foreign people?

>>688574375
I see. No the Bundeswehr does not offer such 'Legion' but there are discussions about it.

>>688574375
We do have some Offices that work with Black Water and such though

>>688573839
What trade bruh, me too

>>688574179
Fuck, from what my brother tells me about provider calls into tricare, the dependos on bases have to be the worst.

Got any fun stories about treatment/over reactions? You gotta have had a ham planet dependo do something stupid.

>>688567827
So xrays and stuffs?

>>688573989
That sounds neat, physically demanding though I assume?

>>688565162
>every country in the world share the same recruitment methods.

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>>688560167
tfw wanted to join marines but couldn't because my shit vision only allows contacs to work and not BC goggles, why live

>>688574693
>>688574784
Darn. Well, the next questions are mostly uniform related.

What do you wear as a combat vest?
Do you still have the web harness?
How do you wear your winter hats "fur" hats? There is some camo fabric inside that appears to go over the ears, but I wanted to see if it was "reg/im ordern".

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Is it true in some units (or whatever they're called) they teach you how to torture and resist torture? How legit is it?

>>688564741
As someone who was also Med Group, 4N071 here, why is everyone in the medical AFSCs so fucked up and broken?

Who would've thought sitting on my ass collecting a big check would've been so detrimental to my mental health? But I was a basket case and and so were many others.

I got out after 6. Now I'm 2 months into the fire academy of the city I've always wanted to work for. Some good came put of the military but the rest, I never look back on. Fire is where I've always belonged. Fuck the USAF.

I'm going into the air force with an open electrical contract, what are the real chances of getting he job i want?(IT)

>>688575020
Physically and mentally.

We had some pretty rough physical exams which you could pass if you had a good overall physique, but the worst were the mental ones, like being dropped into ocean in army greens in February (Finnish February) and staying there for good 5-6 mins until hypothermia kicks in and do some shit after that.

Some of the neat shit were boarding and clearing a cruise ship and getting to shoot all kinds of weapons.

>>688575939
Some Finnish military branches have this but it is not talked about because it is illegal to torture anyone, and we have conscription mind you so some people WILL go through that involuntarily. It is not as severe tho if you say that you don't want the rought treatment but I've heard some pretty HC stories if you say that you are up for it.

8 yrs AF. Joined to be SERE, got injured and sent to satcom, now to trans. Agree with the 3D0X4, only one duty station, one TDY, never deployed. AF is super corporate now. I got to do some fun things, but friends and I were constantly told we were doing "too much combat, not enough comm". I don't regret joining, I am disheartened that I'm leaving, but can't keep listening to pissant captains that think they know EVERYTHING.

US NAVY
Shipped out to boot camp 5 weeks after finishing high school. If I had to do it all again I would. Moving to Hawaii has certainly sweetened the pot. If you enjoy what you do in the military it's absolutely worth it.

>>688575939
The torture stuff from what I know is mostly stress positions and "soft" techniques. Some are more demanding than others and there is some light assault like kicking and punching. The guards in these things don't get to beat teh fuck out of you though.

>>688576771
thats fucked up, did you get tortured? share any stories you heard

>>688575948
Could have done fire for the USAF

>>688573980
Well if you're 0000/8404 just cross your fingers...8404/0000 are fully manned right now and with the advent of BBD detailers are more rigid about sea/shore flow...I've known people who threatened to separate if they went blue side but they were near the end of their contract so had some leverage...

>>688577289
Mostly contractors now, good luck getting an AD slot

US Army

Used to have bad eyesight, got it fixed.
...
???
>profit

Fuckin helos and shit

Im a proud american and I salute those who serve in the armed forces, but goddamn you guys were lied to.

Please visit my friend youtube's account... Adam Kokesh. Freedom activist who is a veteran.

https://www.youtube.com/user/AdamKokesh/videos

you tards gotta know this is foreign intelligence gathering thread. Chinese or Russian, probably Chinese.

>>688578804
Fuck off Yu Kim Li Chun Ding Dang

>>688576975
When you were in satcom, you did the commo to the satellites then, right?

How did people in the field know where the satellites were? Was there a flight time and trajectory map or was it just "at this time use this frequency"?

Like I said, you are telling Chinese/Russians what they are asking to know. Do you doubt that?

>>688574840
Infantry Officer. You?

>>688579658
Yea because those two countries have no better way of getting intelligence than asking questions on an anonymous board full of trolls

>>688579658
Nigger, I know what an SOI is. But you think the russians/chinese are going to ask soldiers about decades old crap? You probably think talent keyhole is still a thing don't you?

>>688579658
I mean, all I want to know is how soldiers can tell when a satellite is over head. I got an app on my phone that tells me when ham satellites are over head but thats it.

US navy, training to be a nuclear operator

shit sucks.

>>688579791
OP det 2ic, are you in pet with 3 or 1rcr?

>>688560167
opsec goes in all fields

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>>688560167
U.S. Army major, branched military intelligence. 14 years time in service. Currently TDY at Hood for training. In a hotel drinking alone. Two tours in Baghdad and one in Zabul province, Afghanistan. Army paid for my graduate school, and I love my job, but I'm getting fed up with Army bullshit. The PC thing is out of fucking control. You can't joke with many people, and it's difficult to find out which ones will be cool if you occasionally say "faggot."

>>688579791
Sorry im an idiot, arty foo party

Air Force pilot here. Lots of work but it's pretty fucking cool.

USAF Operations Intelligence Specialist. I like it, get to see fun stuff.

>>688579658
Chinese/Russians already know everything there is to know about military personnel

>>688580627
It gets better, if you manage to pass school and you're lucky enough to not end up on a carrier your life is still gonna suck ass. Should've gone CSCS

>>688582538
Nuclear maintainers hate their lives. My buddies on a sub...

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>>688579658
OPM was hacked, dipshit. They already know us all. Fucking moron.

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>>688567199
EVERY
SINGLE
WORD = Truth

Also, stop fucking partying, pay off EVERYTHING that you can!

>ITT: People that believe their government's lies, and are being used as a proxy to fight and unnecessary war cause by the US, they are also self entitled to respect being they WILLINGLY gave their oath to "protect us", and demand we shine their shoes.
Fucking ding dongs go get a real job and actually contribute to the economy instead of leaching of the taxpayers...

Army here. Joined up at 18, 95 ASVAB, 140 GT. Spacecraft Controller gig in a cushy location never deployed. Got out after 4 years and now I'm an engineer for NASA with only an associates. Now I'm 25 making over 100k and don't plan on going back to school ever.

It's what you make of it.

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>>688560167
If your vision is correctable to 20/20 you're good to go.
Military is what you make of it. I'm about to get out of the US Army after 3 years of being an 88M.
Deployment was the only time I really felt like I was getting what I wanted out of the experience. Different environment, different worries, and when you go outside the wire the stupid bullshit gets thrown away and you can concentrate on what's real.
Aside from that, stateside is basically waiting for no reason, taking classes so you don't rape anyone, and watching grown ass men stab eachother in the back and suck dick to try and get a premotion.
I'd rate it a 6/10.
But the Post 9/11 GI Bill is pretty badass, and my home state will pay for the next 125 credits after that runs out... so I've got that and a free class A CDL going for me, which is nice
Would have rated 7/10 if it wasn't for NTC.

>>688582821
I get the serious incident reports all the time, and the blotter. Why are 88Ms so fucking felonious? They're always getting trouble. Almost more than the grunts.

>>688582820
Also I fucking hate you. Got a 93 overall and a 127 gt but I'm colorblind so they only offered me 3 jobs. MP, 88M, or be the guy that sits in the box truck doing calculations for artillery

>>688583192
>FDC

>>688567561
Are you even allowed to say that?

>>688578804
See
>>688582678

>>688583060
Dunno, we'be had 3 DUI's, 8 major SHARP incidents, and our 1SG married a SSG in our company while he was in command. Seems like 88s like to do stupid shit like throw people through the wall in the barracks.
Also because trucks go boom often

>>688575939
SERE training

>>688583420
he's going to say yes, because I'm sure he TECHNICALLY can, but he'd get roasted if anyone from his work found out.

>>688583615
Let me bounce this theory off of you. I think it's because 88M is an MOS that you can get with a low ASVAB. So all the dumb poors pick it as the best of other shit options. Not saying all 88Ms are fucking retards, but there are a lot of fucking retards in transpo

How's Fort Detrick?

>>688583887
Nah, you're right.

>>688584236
Thanks for not getting defensive. Wasn't expecting this.

>>688560167
in sbs. love my job. thought about getting lazer eye surgery to fix eyesight or is this not possible?

>>688581322
Nope.

That's unfortunate friend. Can't say the same for you because of the colorblindness, but I went in with a plan; I've wanted to work for NASA since I was 10 and this was the easiest and most profitable route. The military was but a stepping stone, once I got out I've never looked back or associated myself with it.

On a finny side note, all my coworkers still think I wasted thousands of dollars on a degree, and I make more then all of them, kek.

>just signed navy contract
>navy swcc

>>688585354
>tree finny

>>688577289
No. AF would find a way to suck the life out of that too. I'm much better off in the civilian sector.

Besides fire on base with military, contract or federal fire don't do shit all day besides standby on the tarmacs. I'll take a bit of a pay cut to go see some action.

>>688582748
Says the edgy jobless teenager. Don't you have homework to do?

Question: I'm from huehue soccerland but I have a green card. If I were to join the army, would I still get the same benefits as a citizen?

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>>688586439

I was in a mental hospital for a few weeks for smoking too much weed (retarded i know) basically i got a drug induced psychosis, would this shit pop up on the back ground check? Want to join the air force or army, but if they go through my medical records it will probably show, probably a automatic no go huh

>>688587005
You're not getting in, bro. Sorry.

>>688587114

damnit

>>688587005
>>688587114
I take it back. Recruiters can work magic sometimes. Go for it. Who cares.

>>688586886
Military benefits? Yes.
Can't get a security clearance till you get citizenship though. Will limit you on job choices, but not much.
As for rights as a US citizen, the military will help you earn your citizenship. I had a troop under me from Mexico that did that.

>>688587320
To get a clearance, you'll also have to renounce citizenship to the shithole country in which you really belong.
>>688586886

>>688587005
Background check should only show criminal offences as far as I know.
Were you charged when this happened?

>>688587439
Even if the US allows brs to have a double citizenship?

>>688587598
Background check will, but if he goes for a clearance and doesn't disclose the info, he's fucking hosed.

Just a general question: how are your experiences and interactions with civilians after being in the military? Has it changed? Are you "different"? Do civilians just say dumb shit?

Also, how do you feel about guys that live the military 24/7? I know a few guys and all they talk about is military stuff, use acronyms, hate liberals, etc.

>>688583629
isnt that just stress positions tho?

>>688587635
Don't know what a brs is, but I work personnel security in the army. No way will he get a clearance unless he renounces citizenship.

>>688587598

no, no charges, but i wonder if they do find out after i sign, is there a legal action they take for lieing

>>688587740
Nope.

>>688587666
Just avoid jobs that need a Top Secret. I didn't get ask much for my secret clearance. When I went up for TS...yeah, he will get hosed. Shit was crazy.

>>688587804
I replied to the other anon. If you go for a clearance, they'll find it.

>>688587816
so what else happens in SERE then?

>>688587894
No, the NACLC will uncover a hospital stay for drug-induced psychosis.

>>688588031
Oh I see. I didn't know that.

>>688587967
They fuck you up a little bit. Nothing to cause permanent damage, though. Everyone breaks. It's only a matter of time. They're just prepping you to break, and escape when you can.

>>688587774
Br as in brazil. I think I might already be elligible to become a citizen. Should I just wait till then?

>>688560167
Uncle is that you?

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>>688567579
Glad to hear it, anon.

>>688588205
I see now. No, you don't have to wait, but if you want a clearance, you'll have to renounce Brazil citizenship and swear fidelity to the U.S.

>>688588031

Will they just kick me out or will they charge me for lying?

>>688588195
What's the method most guys going through SERE break under?

>>688588195
Kinder, gentler military with all the PC bullshit. How is SERE these days compared to what it was?

>>688588418
If you lie, you could catch a charge. Be up front with it. Explain it in detail, and why it's not an issue any longer.

>>688588450
>>688588514
I gave you the wrong impression. I haven't done it; I've only spoken to the cadre and a few people who have gone through it. I have no fucking interest or need to go through SERE.

>>688588786
That's cool, can you share what you heard from them?

>>688588450
Lock you up in a small concrete box in an uncomfortable position. Strip you down and hit you with cold water.

I heard that if you got a female in your class, they tend to target the female as a way to get the males to break to protect that female.

>>688588924
Sleep deprivation and learned helplessness. You can google the last bit and figure it out.

>>688588595

Ok, thanks for the info.

>>688589048
tbh cold water sounds easy, i doubt many guys would break under it. The female thing is badass though, most guys would feel really guilty in that situation and try to spare the girl.

>>688560167
Polish Niebieskie Berety, I wonder if I'll retire before Russia takes all of Ukraine

>>688589419
Exactly.

As for cold water...I really fucken hate cold water. That shit would get to me.

>>688589419
I'm not going to expound on this, but I've used cold water to break people. Cold and wet is fucking misery, if you keep it up. I got a lot of information out of people just using cold water. You should not underestimate your body's desire to be rid of the condition.

>>688589837
electric shock would be more efficient

>>688589989
You would think so, but that takes resources and physical touch. Not so, with cold water. I wish you would just take my word on this.

>>688589989
They aren't trying to kill people during SERE though.
Shit happens even with relatively low voltage.

>>688588381
Ah I see. Thanks for responding anon.

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>>688589837
if it's just some random dude yeah, but a navy seal could take cold water easily, they're in top physical shape and are used to this shit

>>688589989
>>688590208
I didn't use this in SERE training, by the way. I'm talking real world application.

>>688560167
US Army, 13B.

>>688590386
i wish you could explain more, but i understand you cant talk much about it

>>688590309
You're wrong, but for a reason you'll probably reject. If you've been through the misery once, you'll be more likely to avoid it again. I know "trust me" isn't enough proof for /b/, but that's all I got.

>>688590177
>>688589989

Stop acting like a tough guy. These instructors are pros at this. They aren't just going to spray you with water. They are alot more creative than that.

I've done some of the physicals on guys returning from SERE. They are pretty fucked up for a bit. Creepy to be around.

>>688590609
what kind of method you could see those guys went through?

>>688590511
I'll spill a little more. I used cold water through the bars of a kennel. That's where we kept them. Near the dogs, which would bark and terrify them. The dogs hated them by smell, I guess. I could use the water and toss it through the bars. No contact. Just questions. No answer? That's fine, motherfucker, see you in about 10 minutes in the summer. In the winter, I didn't have to come back with more water.

>>688590816
shiiiiet nigger i bet they sang like a canary
from your experience does better fitness mean they can resist more or is it unrelated?

>>688590745
Idk. I wasn't a lot to know. Just rumors. Obvious to me that whatever it was, it was some bad shit.
They'd come back 30 or more pounds less, looking like they came from Auschwitz. Short term depression. Withdrawn. 1000 yard stare.

Most got over it. Some didn't.

Do people usually break down and talk during the torture or after

>>688591085
Unrelated. Fit fags lack body fat to insulate. Fat fags are pussies, generally. It never mattered. You shiver long enough, you'll break.

>>688591159
Both.

>>688566997
You two sound like fucking idiots BTW

>>688591159
>>688591419
I'll expand a bit. They'll talk to stop it, and they'll talk to prevent it from starting again.

>>688591360
Yeah. My low body fat is the reason I said I really fucken hate cold water. Shit it painful when you don't have a lot of insulation.

>>688569833
Youll regret it when you get there. Itll be terrible and everyones there with you but you dont know anyone so youll feel so alone.

>>688591564
Yeah i always imagined that if you could make it through the torture then you just dont say anything unless you really didnt want more

>>688591627
did you have to be in contact with cold water at any point in your service though?
and is that low bf% from cardio?

>join army in 1995
>studied for asvab. top GT scores and everything.
>recruiter: sorry kid, we're not fighting any wars. we need box counters
>sign up for 92Y supply specialist with airborne option
>earn AAM award in AIT for planning, directing and executing flawless ambush during training
>go to unit. 4th PSYOP on Bragg. 6th bn.
>i am jacks red headed stepchild
>37F psyop guys live in airconditioned computer labs while i'm endlessly doing inventories in hellish NC heat
>be good soldier. always shoot expert, top PT scores, fastest runner.
>get to train as cadre assistant with green berets. OH MY FUCK THESE GUYS ARE AWESOME I WANT TO DO THIS.
>cadre and trainees like me. able to do land nav and manage to devise a plan to ambush 82nd airborn OPFOR. Cadre impressed, i'm encouraged to apply for green bean school
>18X program starts where i can be eligable ITS GOING TO HAPPEN
>reenlistment time: what can i do to keep a good soldier like you in anon?
>18X please.
>cant do it. QMaster understrength. if you stay you stay 92Y. try to barter. no dice.
>its not going to happen.
reenlist with no idea what im doing with my life.
>start taking "brave" amounts of LSD on weekends to dull the pain of crushed dream
>roommate rats me out.
>court martial. 1 year imprisonment in Ft Knox RCF.
>spend summer sorting trash at recycling center and sleeping in 16 man cell.
>family disappointed because i'm a failure.
>realize i shamed myself and country
>manage to hide service from employers but secretly hate myself.
>sometimes i still dream about jumping out of planes.
>feels bad man

>>688592036
Not service related. I just don't go jumping into pools unless they are at least 85. And I was AF not Army, so my ass was taking cold showers.

As for my BF%. Was mainly diet, some cardio. I slacked off in the AF. This civilian fire academy has me eating more and doing a shit ton of cardio now. Harder PT than the AF ever had.

I spent my whole childhood as a fat fuck. I got tired of so I lost the weight. Im 26 and I weigh less than I did in middle school.

>>688560167
Veteran
United States Air Force
I would do it again, but I'd change a lot of the decisions I made while in to make my time in go smoother.

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>>688592124
I've fought for soldiers like you, sometimes to the detriment of my standing in the unit. Sorry someone didn't do the same in your case. Sucks.

>>688592620
Wasn't*

>>688592623
Not trying to start interservice rivalry, but a USAF vet means shit to the rest of us who saw the business end of a weapon's barrel.

>>688560167
I'm in dep for the navy so I don't really count but want to leave ASAP. Can't wait

>>688592916
Yeah but I can hold a stable job after I got out unlike you "real military" folks.

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>>688592620
you on fire academy? that's fucking awesome, must be tough as hell

>>688592916
How can you expect anybody to respect the word "Veteran" when you yourself won't?

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>>688592675
thanks. all i wanted was the job few others want to do.
pic related: top row. 4th from right

>>688593116
Bro, I'm an Army major with a M.A. Don't try your "stable job" bullshit on me.

Airforce F-22 avionics maintainer here. Pretty chill, you learn a lot and can get a good job after your 4 years. Im willing to answer any questions

USN, Surface Warfare Officer
Pros: Good pay, learned people/management skills, deployments are long but consistent day to day routine, nice port visits, GI Bill is fully vested for future use

Cons:
Duty: If you plan to go on ship you will stand "duty" aka stay on the ship for 24 hours every 4 to 8 days (depending on how big your ship is, but typical is 5 or 6) and stand watch which is just fucking stupid waste of hours of your life and also applies on the weekend since the ship never closes for business

Stupid admin, 10% of the sailors and officers and maybe closer to 20% are complete fucktards who don't get it and make life miserable for the other 80%

Outside inspectors for training phase is a bitch and half of stupid admin work, training, and evolutions most of which is not applicable on deployment

Overall: Been in for four, will stay 5 or 7 years, learned a lot, saved a bunch of money, but if you are not mentally tough, touchy, or have a family I would not join.

>>688593143
Yup. Just finished the EMT portion. That was easy. I've been an EMT for a while now but they put me through again. Im top of the class because of it.

The fire portion starts Monday. That's when shit gets real.

U.S Navy Medical School student with plans to serve the Marines as a Trauma Surgeon after med school graduation.

a 2k stipend a month and 350k towards my medical school makes me much less antsy then my peers.

>>688593335
Haha yeah okay.

Totally remixed of the Navy Seal copypasta.

>>688564910
>air force

>>688593293
No problem. Also, I did basic on Sand Hill at Benning, D/2-47. Respect.

>>688593524
See
>>688581415

SAD, SOG - Currently active
Good money, traveled the world, can make almost any trained professional my bitch in hand-to-hand combat or in a game of chess. Top of the fucking pyramid.

Only con would be family and friends as in there are none. Life's too hectic for any form of warmth - At least atm.

>>688593431
I did my Fire College / EMT at the Fire College in Ocala Florida a few years back, was some of the best and worst months of my life.

Best of luck to you, make every day worth it, train on your days off and don't bitch out during ladder tours.

And for the love of god, when you're doing the standpipe evolution, do NOT drop your fucking hose, we had three people go home because of that.

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>>688593293
also related.
Summer of 1997: playing OPFOR against 37F AIT students. commended by cadre for breaching heavily guarded perimeter and pitching a grenade simulator into CP AND pulling off a "drive by" with an M60 in a wooded area

>>688593431
do you get along with the other students? i heart the academy is full of cocky shits

>>688593671
That's nice.

>>688593676
sick, you ever had to use your hand combat skills?

>>688592124
You should go on a nigger killing spree

>>688593806
Most of them. I tolerate the few jocks we have and the one female paragod we have.
Me blowing up will only hurt me.

>>688593787
I loved the pig. I had to hump that fucking thing with a 70lbs ruck, tripod, spare barrel bag, and 3x cans of ammo for 15 miles. We had to stop to conduct an ambush. The signal to open fire was two taps on my heel in the prone. The signal to stop was two taps again. I ignored the cease fire so I could spend the ammo can and decrease weight. They were punching my calf. I didn't care. I fused the blank adapter to the barrel.

>>688592916
Hey fuck you I was in the USAF for 6 years I've shot and been shot at in Iraq faggot. Not all air force jobs are desk. Get off your high horse.

>>688593737
I don't think our instructors are going to boot us for dropping the hose pack. But thank you for the advice.

>>688594101
Aside from some "hardcore" training sessions, nah. Although I did come close to taking stupid decisions as a civilian.

>>688594292
We had a 20yo female paragod who absolutely bombed the physical portions. She leeched off her teammates and ended up graduating, paragods are terrible.

>>688594422
Fuck you, liar. What USAF MOS ends up in the shit? No one I ever saw in Baghdad or Afghanistan.