>>688250503
well, youre on 4chan right now instead of finding a way to improve your music... so...

well, musicians have to work harder than anyone else to make a living thats not shit. you better start workin

Classical pianist here. Some advice I wish someone had said to me.

1. Get good at teaching. This takes about as much practice as learning your instrument. Read up on learning psychology and piano teaching methods. Play lotsa different music because you need to be on top of all sorts of stuff that kids and adults want to learn.

2. You will have rough periods of not much work (this is why you teach). Get on top of your finances so when money is coming in, you can actually save it. If you work it right, you can make above median income from playing, teaching AND -

3. Studio work. If you are a good pianist and can play in a bunch of different styles, you will be able to get session work. Session pianists are fairly rare, so you can really corner the market. It's not gonna be a fulltime thing, but it will give you a bit extra every month. Get to know the studio people in your area, get to know the bands and so on.

Finally, play wherever you can. Wherever there is a piano, go and play. The smartest thing I ever did was buy a good quality digital piano and cart it around. So if the place didn't have a piano, I could still play. Play, play, play some more. Play until you start to see the same people. This is how they remember you and this is how you build a profile.

Best of luck, anon.

I was a classical pianist until something catastrophic happened to me, now I'm not sure what to do with my life.

>>688251346
wow, thanks a lot, I'll for sure use these advices

>>688251662
what happened?

>>688252303
Well I don't like to talk about it, but since we're all anonymous here, I'll go for it.

I dropped a piano down a mine shaft, it resulted in a miner-be-flat.

>>688250503
hey op i really want to start playing piano but it looks hard
was it easy for you? and how can you play with two hands at once?

>>688252519
jesus christ I hate you

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>>688252655
I hate myself too anon. I got in big treble for that one.

>>688252647
I was already playing the guitar for 6 years before starting the piano, so the transition was easy. And there is not a magic spell for playing with both hands at once. You start by playing each hands seperatly until you know their part really well, then slowly start playing both hands at the same time

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>>688253410
Even so, the piano is a fairly easy instrument to pick up

>>688252931
Kill yourself faggot

>>688253681
Bach off, dude.

>>688254358
you're ressourceful, and it gives me so much cancer

>>688250503
Go where the money is, cause you will be broke for periods of time. I'm a classical guitarist and a nigga ain't getting paid. Oh and be versatile in your music. Not everybody likes classical and you need everybody to like your shit.
>tl;dr
>get money, get gud

>>688250503
Ok - both pianists on here posting so far are fucked and I'll tell yous why.

Your generic use of the word "classical" pianist is just bollocks. The arse with the shit adivce telling you to play here there and everywhere is not a "classical pianist" but a pianist.

Look at all great performers. There specialise in 1 style. Either baroque, romantic, Jazz, modern, ragtime, blues. The term classical musician is a right wank term thrown around by fucks who have no musical talent and correctly as fuckface poster said end up teaching.

Fuck off you armatures

>>688254501
Nice spelling, faggot. At least I have a Handel on my own language.

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Just graduate and conduct middle school choir. Accompany solo instrumentalists at Solo/Ensemble. Give private lessons.
If you love it you're made in the shade.
Pic is of a piano playing automaton.

>>688254916
>but.. but.. classical is a style
>1750-1827
kek I understand, I'm only completed my 1st year in college, so I'm not specialising my music just yet

>>688255069
Not every one is American, faggot

>>688255358
Exactly - classical is a musical period. So ergo you're not a classical pianist if you play Bach or chopin.

If your still studying at college play everything to study. You will find a style will start to form to you. Once out of studying and starting to perform stick with one style. Yes still play other styles but perform only one.

Most pianist end up romantic or modern.

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>>688252519
OP may be good on piano but he'd make a better living if he sucked on the organ

Persistence is key. As long as you're happy, nothing else matters.

>>688250503
I was a professional musician.
I ended up broke and hating my instrument once it became a business. There's very little money it it. You'd better get used to the idea of being poor. If you're ok living in poverty and have few material possessions and willing to work until the day you die, you've picked the right profession.

>>688255358
I would also question your dating of classical.

Classical starts the second after Bach dies and ends the day Beethoven composes his 6th symphony.

>>688256055
Right, actually I play 1 piece per style (baroque, classical, romantic modern) per year, 2 per semester, so yeah eventually I'll figure out what style I prefer

>>688257063
What do you find suits you the most?

>>688256921
I'd question yours too. My teacher believed that the romantic era started with Beethoven 1st symphony, and classical ended when beethoven died, as he was the last classical composer and his music was still influenced by it

>>688257063
This is very general but since I don't know anything about you.

If you lean towards baroque/classical teach private.
Baroque/modern teach at a school.
Classical/romantic perform in restaurants small bars.
Romantic/modern think seriously about concert performing or orchestral pianist.

>>688257272
I played some Liszt and listened to a lot of his repertoire and love it, but it's so hard lmao

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>>688252519
fuck off

>>688257910
Cool, it does fit these styles haha

>>688257364
No - his first 5 symphonies follow strict classical rules on form.

The 6th is the start of composers using there own thoughts and everyday subjects and not submitting to grand and influencal subjects. The second movement of the 6th is about a country village and people going about there everyday lives. It's the beginning of national ideas and philosophy as subject matter for composers. Before the 6th there was none of they ingredients that make the romantic period. Your tutor is an ass.

>>688250503
k

>>688258609
Schumann wrote a book of finger excersise you might find useful

>>688258696
He thought told me that it wasn't precisely established and a lot of people are arguing over this, I don't think he has the absolute answer but I don't think he's an ass either

>>688250503
You need to be willing to dedicate your life to playing the piano.

Is it worth it to you?

Everything you do, the way you structure things, the way you live your life, the way you spend your free time, it will all have to directly benefit your piano playing, or indirectly benefit your piano playing.

>>688260190
Touché

My names Martin by the way. Nice to meet you.

>>688253410
>>688253519
Naw, don't do that.

Map out the piece in your mind, or just star with the beginning, or first, and figure out when you have to use both hands at the same time, and how.

Don't think of it as
Left F A G + Right A C D C

Think of it as
Left F + Right A
Left A
Right C
Left G + D C

You're not doing 2 things at a time, you're doing one more complex thing at a time.

>>688261012
thank you for your insights m8, i've never tought of it that way

>>688260928
Nice to meet you, Dominic

>>688261012
Yeah true, Im not good at teaching so thanks for that!

>>688262109
Don't thank me, thank you.
I would never have made that post in your thread if you didn't make this thread.
It couldn't have happened with out you.

Everything that every single person that has read this thread will think about will forever be effected by you making this thread, even if in the slightest of ways.

Every single person that has posted in this thread has been permanently altered by you creating this thread.

They will never be able to undo them posting in this thread, it will be forever a truth of time, an ever lasting fact, that they posted in this thread.

>>688250503

Well, to be blunt, if you cannot teach, and you aren't the best player in your state, you are screwed. The touring performance life sucks and only the very top pianists in the world get to have one. Studio session jobs will be taken by pianists trained in jazz, because not only do they know music theory well enough to make up an interesting and engaging part while playing a song for the first time without requiring written-out sheet music, but stylistically all american music stems from jazz, so the transition is much easier than it is from classical music.

As someone who as extensively studied in both jazz and classical, I feel you would be best off as a college professor. Try to get your foot in the door before they start removing tenure from the higher education systems.

That way, you get to teach and help others in their love for music, you get to provide a steady income for your family (although your spouse will most likely have to work as well), and you can get funding to do projects and experiments that will further your own art.

And if you want to make any money with an album, either reinterpret existing classical pieces in an ingenious or unique way (i.e., Glenn Gould), or compose your own music that has wider market appeal (i.e., minimalism). And most importantly, always remember that nobody except for your peers likes serialized music.

Nobody.

Good luck, and I wish you the best.

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>>688250503
Did you ever have a bank account full of pedestrians' disinterested smiles?

>>688263705
I created the thread, not him, but thanks anyway lol

>>688264781
Not OP, but I've come to write some decent music, or at least I believe that they're not so bad.
One of the things keeping me from recording an album, though, is my lack of ability to play my instrument and pieces well.
Also, my lack of understanding in music theory, mostly, writing sheet music.
Well, not record an album, but just record my music without errors with decent equipment.

I knew a guy running a studio for free, had equipment, and a sound booth.
I just couldn't play my music as it was, I just kept messing up technically.

If I could write sheet music, it'd be a lot easier to just pay someone to learn and perform my pieces, maybe they just like them enough to do so in the first place.

If I was just better at playing instruments, I'd be able to perform them myself.

>>688250503
dude, pianists get mad pussy and you can totes find a job, easy

>>688265758
>tfw I made such a simple mistake
I'll blame it how I can't get sleep because I'm taking Ritalin to deal with school, the general stress which effects various other things, and more general lack of sleep.

>>688250503
as a drummer finding a career path in my life, you arent going anywhere with a bachelors/master/PHD in Music

>>688266236
It's not about the education, it's about how you use it.

>>688264781
Thanks for the advice, I'll keep that in mind. Good luck to you too

>>688266236
I'll defininatly get at least a bachelors

>>688265873
It's totally possible to be a full-time composer and not play your pieces. As long as your pianist is not a retarded you can do it

>>688267470
>tfw I just work manual labor
My life is sad.