Would bringing back the Cruiserweight Championship be the right way to utilize NXT call ups?
>>825941
those Cruiserweights gonna have to cruiser wait, brutha.
>>825941
No thats what we have midcard titles for.
>>825941
Yes.
>inb4 glass ceiling
Its better than showing up on smackdown to job every few weeks
So, Roman beat the shit out of HHH and is probably going to be suspended tonight
That makes perfect sense because RAW is in Philly and they want to keep as much heat off of him as they can. This shit sucks
>>825941
If 99% of the roster would be in contention for the title, whats the point? Just use the us or ic title.
>>825948
As if Neville or Breeze will win a midcard title anytime soon
>>825953
Good, they're enhancement talent, they're not designed for title reigns unless they're transitional.
>>825955
Neville should not be just an enhancement talent. Say what you will about his mic skills, but he will be over no matter what because he has the coolest moveset on the roster right now.
The King of Pain and the King of Swing.
>Local radio station has Titus O'Neil and Darren Young doing the media rounds
this sucks pham
>>825957
Exactly, he will always be over but he's never going to be a draw or reach that main event status.
He's best in his current role, winning feuds against low carders and putting over guys like seth in very high quality tv matches.
>>825958
Is that a random white spot or is Hideo wearing an earring?
>>825962
He'll never be in the main event so give him something like a cruiserweight title. He proved he can be a good champion as a face or heel with the nxt title.
>>825972
why the cruiserweight though? Thats more demeaning than anything, as if he cant hang with the heavyweights.
Times have changed, the IC or US title would be sufficient if they want to put a mid card title on him, we dont need more titles, especially one as useless as a cruiserweight championship.
>>825974
I agree that we shouldn't need the cruiserweight title, but look at how fucking crowded the midcard is right now. Its already been established that the midcard title contenders are owens, ambrose, del rio, rusev, ryback, ziggler.. and pretty much no one else. Most of the lower card, especially the nxt call ups like neville, breeze, and bo dallas, fit the cruiserweight title. Plus, it would give guys like balor, zayn, and itami something that saves them from going into immediate irrelevance.
>>825951
As this guy pointed out
>>825949
Give them a glass ceiling. Give them something tangible to crack and break.
Right now, where they stand, the glass ceiling is overhead as an abstract concept that they can't touch or shatter.
Give it form and give them character for it and they'll have a much better chance at rocketing through it instead of bumping off of something they can't even see and fizzling out.
>>825978
>Zayn
>cruiserweight
Zayn's too charismatic and too good of an underdog babyface to fade into irrelevance, anyway.
Jimmies will adore Zayn.
>>825978
The weight division is pointless and looks stupid when you have guys in the division also challenging for the WHC. Something like a Television title with the gimmick of weekly title defenses would be better.
>>825982
That's essentially what happened to the US title during Cena's reign, and I think it should stay that way because calling a title a "television" title lessens its value.
>>825984
They should have a "Network Title" that's contested by mid/lower-midcarders on a Network-only hour-long show a'la Superstars.
>implying this idea isn't money
>>825984
I agree, just keep it down at more Neville level for someone to get a lengthy reign. Someone like Breeze could get a fluke win and lose it in a week, Balor could win it in his debut.
Neville could do so much better in Lucha Underground
>>825964
yeah looks like an earring
>>825987
They should have the hardcore title come back and make use of todays technology for the 24/7 rule.
Interruptions during network shows of guys trying to get the title, title changes on twitter/tout and all that good stuff.
>>825992
Literally everyone could do better in LU.
>>825994
>someone getting rolled-up on fucking Tout
I'd lel
>>825999
Nice trips bro, but yeah it'd make a lot of sense to bring it back so people actually have a reason to stay updated on their social media accounts and watch the network all day.
>>825994
so, the chikara hardcore title?
just hire Chuck Taylor then.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uo80cGTXS5s
will swagger go back to being a jobber now?
>>826003
>implying he ever stopped
>>825987
They'd have to get people to actually watch Superstars before that would work though.
>>825994
>title change during total divas
KEK
>>826012
>hardcore champ shows up in a bella twins segment
>gets sneakily rolled up by DBry
>>825994
honestly, if wwe wasnt so anal about people getting over on their own, Heath Slater could just pick up the old ass hardcore title, and on his twitter like declare the 24/7 hour rule active again and get over with that.
but no.
>>826020
>Heath Slater
>>826027
He jobbing to Dean is enough to make me depressed.
>>826028
anyone.
heath slater is the anyonest wrestler on wwe right now.
>>826028
Too bad, Heath Slater is a cool as fuck name.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VXkAgH9crQY mmmm
>>826028
Actually Slater is the perfect person to bring it back.
Having a guy just randomly find it and decide "Hey this was a thing before for no real reason so I'll bring it back for no real reason" is inherently wacky so you can't really have an upper-carder do something so non-serious.
There is literally nothing wrong with having Ziggler as World Champ while we patiently wait for Rollins to recover.
>>826041
The insinuation that Snooz Borrins should plague the World Title again is wrong enough on its own.
>Actually want to watch Raw tonight
They played me like a mark
>>826043
>Roman actually being booked appropriately
He has a decent enough heavy-handed offense that I feel if he started attacking Faces and Heels alike and talking less he could be a genuinely interesting character.
>>826043
>>826045
>mfw RAW starts the show with him on a 15 min promo recapping EVERYTHING that happened to him over the past year, dropping some 'Succotash's' and 'Tater Tots' in there for good measure.
>>826050
DEG DEGLARE
>>826050
>not wanting to follow the adventure of a hero trying to overcome the odds against all adversity
>>826053
kek
>I-I will overcome. BALEE DAT!!
DUN DUN DUUUUUN DUN DUN DUN DUUUUN DUN
Remember Buff is the stuff.
>>826050
>Roman comes out
>apologizes for his actions
>says that he let his Samoan famalam down
>congratulates Dean
>Roman's music hits whilst he's still in the ring
>Dean walks out
>gives Roman his belt
>Roman thanks him
>balee
Where are my Ambronies at
>>826058
>>825974
>times have changed
you're the problem, you faggot. why is everyone itt treating the curiserweight title like a low/midcard belt? it's a whole seperate division. when they had cruiserweight in WCW it was far and away the best title and pretty much the only one anyone cared about other than the big gold belt.
>>826070
Should be a great Champ so long as they give him actual time to speak and develop himself.
He got an awesome pop on winning so people are more organically behind him than anyone else active right now easily.
>Owens will enter the main WWE title picture
>Owens will win the Rumble
>>826028
>having the same opinions as the average child WWE fan
>>826074
>hating a heel this much
>>826070
Are you asking for /mlp/ denizens who like Ambrose or is that just what you're going with.
As punishment for attacking me Roman, here's your opponent tonight!
WEEEELLLLLLLLLLL
>that TLC ending
What the fuck was that? Triple H was overselling like crazy.
>>826087
It was hilarious. Someone on the live thread said something along the lines of it being a stab at Vince. It reminded me of HBK vs Hogan.
>>826091
>It reminded me of HBK vs Hogan.
Was just about to say that. Ruined the whole segment. Roman was actually looking good.
>>826092
Honestly it kind of turned HHH into the babyface.
How many times did the announcers say "career"?
>>826080
You may have made it past the big show ramen, but save your strength. because tonight, you, dean ambrose and the usos are going to face the league of nations in a 4 man team tag match.
>HHH suffered an injury last night in the announcer table spot with Roman Reigns
Well, there goes the Authority/Reigns storyline.
>>826087
>>826100
>AGAIN!
>>826087
He did the same thing exactly the same as Daniel Bryan before wrrstlemanja.
Oh God Reigns v Haitch is Stone Cold v Vince.
How did I not realize this sooner.
Alright lads, how would you rank all mainline PPVs this year
13. Extreme Rules
12. Fastlane
11. Night of Champions
10. Payback
9. Survivor Series
8. Hell in a Cell
7. Battleground
6. Money in the Bank
5. Royal Rumble (for Bork vs. BMJ vs. Rollins)
4. TLC
3. Elimination Chamber
2. Summerslam
1. Wrestlemania 31 (best saved WM ever)
>>826118
except reigns aint no stone cold.
and haitch can wrestle.
Based Cena
>>826001
Any more of this?
>>826125
Why is The Rock in the ring?
I'm trying to figure out the full deal with the policy on the event ticket saying no video cameras. I have a Nikon which takes both photos and videos. Is security going to give me a rough time while entering the facility?
Calling the place doesn't give me a real person to ask about this.
>>826124
>except reigns aint no stone cold.
That's the problem
They're trying to recreate something great with someone who isn't anywhere near as charismatic
>>826132
Chuckie has some on his instagram.
https://www.instagram.com/chuckietea/
>>826141
Wasn't he suppose to be retiring?
>>826123
Wrestlemania 31 was the ONLY good PPV this year.
Everything else was trash. Elimination Chamber is within the top five worst PPVs WWE ever put on.
>>826142
>>826146
he got a shout out on the best theme in wrestling today, that made him change his mind.
https://youtu.be/S0pnoTsvWPs?t=1m46s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?&v=dBh9a0WrkoM
When is John Cena supposed to come back?
I COULDN'T PROTECT IT
I'M SO SORRY ;_;
>>826162
Sometime in january judging by him being on the cover of RR
>>826123
Hell in a Cell was best this year
>>826125
>yfw Cena wins the RR
>>826123
>4. TLC
>Charlotte slapping her thigh for "impact" when Paige is ducking out of the way.
>>826123
>1. Wrestlemania 31 (best saved WM ever)
WM 31 was shit.
Rollins winning was hype as fuck but it led to a terrible reign.
Even if you're going to forget the tripe that followed, just what was memorable about WM 31 par the ending?
>Haitch/Sting was shit
>Taker/Bray was shit
>Rollins/Orton underwhelmed
>IC Title Match was okay and not nearly as good as it could have been
Can't remember anything else.
Oh, yeah, Cena/Rusev was underwhelming.
>>826125
Based BMJ wins the biggest match of the year
>>826186
NWO vs. DX
Jey Uso getting BTFO for most of the year
Suplex City
Slapped Reigns
2nd best RKO ever
Beeg winning something
Ladder headbutt between Ziggler & Bryan
>>826036
no it would be someone like owens or one of the wyatts
>owens is in catering, goes by the authority's office sees the hardcore title in there and takes it since he just lost his to show his kid
>bray tells rowan or the other thats not luke to go get him a title, they break into wwe headqaurters and take the hardcore title because it was the most "different"
>>826195
>interferences
>an injury on the pre-show
>something in the main-event, which I already admitted was good
>something in the main-event, which I already admitted was good
>a spot
>Beeg
>a headbutt spot
Shit WM. You enjoyed it because WM is easy to mark for due to the grandeur of the event in general.
>>826073
Hes going to bury it harder than he did the U.S. belt.
havent been a fan of wrestling since 2002 but I was just wondering, if Undertaker has never lost, how come hes not the champion?
>>826201
He never lost at Wrestlemania until 2014.
He's lost plenty of times in his career.
>>826201
Because he's a company vet who does what's best for business and isn't afraid of putting over young guys like Bray "The Poo Face of Queers" Wyatt.
>>826203
>Undertaker
>knows what's best for business
Yeah, that's why he demanded he win the title from Punk at HIAC 2009.
>>826198
>spots are bad
>drama is bad
You seriously have to be fucking joking. From this I can only assume you're literally watching it for ring skill and not the show.
Since all three Shebds (Rollins went 1-1 lel) lost at Mania this year are there even any small streaks going on anymore?
>you now remember the time fandango vs chris jericho was a wrestlemania match
>you now remember fandango's first much more qt dance partner
>>826210
Michael Cole
>>826207
One good spot does not a good match make.
>>826207
>spots are bad
They're good, of course. But if the event in question is so forgettable you're citing singular spots in otherwise very underwhelming matches as opposed to the entire match itself you're kinda proving my point.
>Sting and Haitch
>2015
>drama
kek
>>826210
>are there even any small streaks going on anymore?
In Taker's underwear.
>>826211
Pretty sure she was only hired at the drop of a hat and was pushed out by the producer (???) because they wanted someone from NXT.
>>826219
Mrs. Fandango left on her own because she wanted to finish college
cant baleeb i wasted 5gb downloading tlc
>>826237
>downloading TLC
Are you a newfag?
It's uploaded to numerous different places to just watch.
>>826238
>streaming
Sorry, I'm not a homosexual
>>826238
i bet you stream TV shows too
>>826237
>not just using watchwrestling.ch
>>826239
>has space on his HDD reserved for collecting video footage
Don't lie anon
I still can't believe people were chanting "we want cena"
At least they were chanting "we miss rollins" too
>>826239
This isn't anime faggot.
>>826245
only because it was near Cena's home town
>>826243
>maximum quality is 480p
JUST
>>826251
I don't need it to be higher when the quality of the product is 144p
>>826252
ayy
Section 103 reporting in.
Everybody is preparing their New Day and wooo changes.
>>826257
chants*
is next week christmas raw?
i wonder what the ratings will be like
>>826259
It's the Slammy's next week, so technically there is no Christmas RAW this year.
>>826265
>being so poor that he has to worry about hard drive space
>>826265
12 tb hd so I think I'm ok. I've got all Royal Rumbles, Wrestlemania's, and 97-2002 Raw (and smackdown the years it's around). Few NXT specials too.
> #Diego4SuperstaroftheYear
Who's with me?!
>>826269
How's streaming on the network working out for ya?
>>826272
I imagine Diego is.
Probably not Fernando, though.
>>826272
#SUPERSTAR Diego!
>>826272
Let's do this.
So many of these new upcoming talents are cringe as fuck.
Who the hell wants to mark out for bayley or hideo itami?
>>826070
>comparing bronies to based Dean
DDT urself my man
>>826294
>based dean
I didn't know 14 year old girls browsed 4chan
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jivkB7wSeUY
If someone asked you about your fanbase in the gay community, how would you respond?
>>826293
>>826301
>le sad green man facebook meme
>>826307
>He thinks kermit originated on facebook
Get the fuck out of here you underage shit
Cena is returning t-tonight r-right guys?
>>826317
I hope so, fAm
>>826317
I think they will save him for the first raw of the new year.
>>826322
I doubt they'll make him miss Tribute to The Troops
>>826324
It was already recorded, he missed it.
>>826330
welp looks like we have a couple more Cenaless weeks ahead of us
dubs and cena returns tonight
>>826343
Ya blew it
>I watch wrestling for the matches
I really enjoyed the spot fest that was the new day match at TLC
>>826343
>cant even get dubs on one of the slowest boards on 4chan
eh at least you were one post away
good stream for raw?
>>826354
stream sp and dubs
im coming to wwe raw
>>826354
http://www.usanetwork.com/videos/live
>>826357
If I had TV, I'd watch it on TV, faggot
I miss swede ;_;
>>826356
owens looks weird without his beard.
>>826365
lel
>Roman kicking off raw to confront the LoN
here we go, sink or swim.
Didn't we see this yesterday?
Who is inning the rumble m8s? Cena, Roman, or Bork?
>>826373
but this time in ECDUB country
>>826373
no
>>826377
Anyone but Roman
>>826377
Kevin Owens
>>826377
Cena to face Roman at WM with a likelihood of Born in the mix to fill in Roman's lack of star-power with his.
Does anyone else think feuds without belts are pointless?
>I WANT TO WRESTLE YOU BECAUSE I AM MADE AT YOU! AND WHEN I WIN... WELL... I WIN!
Seriously, like why fucking bother?
>>826389
for honor, and because if I'm mad at a motherfucker, well...I want to beat that motherfucker up
>>826391
>well...I want to beat that motherfucker up
Got to wait 2 weeks to beat the fucker up though.
Someone make the gamethread
>>826393
well, even in DBZ Vegeta had to wait a week to kick asses
and still, the wait grows the desire
>>826382
Bray pls
you already lost the feud
Roman joins the "Kiss My Ass Club" when?
ROMAAAAN REEEEEEIGNSSSS
Missed Raw. Did anything noteworthy happen or nah?
Who's the new WHC #1 contender?
So Sheamus vs Reigns rematch at the Rumble which means no Reigns to win it. Reigns wins and Cena wins the rumble, thats the plan right?
>>829016
fuck you
>>829016
Roman won the WHC lmao. All in all amazing raw tho.
I liked it.
Very interested to see how the ratings are tomorrow.
BASED ROMAN
That was a good RAW too.
MARKS
ON
SUICIDE
WATCH
>>829016
>Who's the #1 contender
Sheamus :^)
>>829016
Shit RAW, slightly better than the last weeks RAW
>>829062
This raw was fun the ending was utter shit
IWC smarks on suicide watch.
Time to hang it up m8s. Vince fucking did it. He got Reigns over big. Very impressive desu.
WE MADE IT /WWE/
OUR BOY ROMAN IS THE CHAMP
>marks thinking a couple interesting main event segments make this raw a 10/10
It's like you all have short term memory loss or something from all the hype
>>829038
WAIT WHAT
I THOUGHT YOU WERE JOKING
OUR BOY ROMAN DID IT LADS
DID YOU HEAR THAT POP?!
Where the fuck is Daniel Bryan
>>829117
Lying about his injury till Rumble
>>829116
>can't check for samefag
lmao go jerk of obese owens
>>829116
At least try to not be so butthurt!!!!!!!!
>book reigns like a face who has obstacles to overcome instead of a monster who steamrolls everything in his path
>crowd gets behind him
well fucking well. what do you know
>not being part of the roman empire
plebs
feels good man feels good.
Is roman still being booked as a fucking face? Jesus christ it's as simple as letting him be a monster heel who doesn't talk. At all. He'd be tolerable then. Pls come back Cena.
well what do you think
>go check reddit to see their butthurt
>its down
ROMAN REIGNS LITERALLY KILLED REDDIT
BASED ROMAN
So why does /wwe/ suddenly love bbygurl now? He didn't really do anything differently.
>>829166
I miss Seth even more
>makeup class
What the fuck am I watching
>>829166
>there are "smart marks" who thought shebd wouldn't be the top three
seriously, how fucking dumb lmao
>>829168
Reddit actually likes Roman.
Surprise.
>>829177
>So why does /wwe/ suddenly love bbygurl now?
nah its just bait
Hahahahahaha Roman getting cheered in Philly after he got booed the worst I've ever heard anyone get booed.
Literally took Vince to come out from his role backstage knowing that he's the ultimate heel.
Now that's how you make a comeback. Vince is a genius.
THIS IS REAL LIFE
>>825941
vanilla midgets are the reason why WWE has fallen to where it is now. We don't need more of these flippy shit midgets
>>829190
>it's just bait
Are you an /asp/ie or wootist or both?
>>829190
>SOMEONE LIKES SOMETHING I DON'T
>MUST BE BAIT
I didn't watch WWE at all from 07-13 but New Day are extremely entertaining. I think they're a top 10 faction already
>>829190
Lose weight
>>829199
WWE should bring back the cruiserweight belt and let them flip among themselves
>>829166
even deanetty fans gave up on him are 100% reigns fan.
>>829207
have sex
This episode of Breaking Ground is hilarious
>>826028
When do we get the ratings?
>>829190
This
/wwe/ always likes/hates someone ironically. Its usually going against popular opinion.
>>829187
dean will be backing jobbing in no time.
>/wwe/ suddenly likes Roman now
>"h-hes improved"
Cant wait til Cena comes back and buries this fucker. I've honestly never seen a company try so hard to push one person so fucking badly.
Does this mean that Roman is going to be cutting more promos? God help us all. I liked him last night. Why did the undo it?
>>829220
>/wwe/ always likes/hates someone ironically.
Top lel there's no irony here. The crowd that booed the shit out of him is now cheering him on and rightfully so.
Why is it so hard to believe people can change their opinions on a wrestler? You're so butthurt it's hilarious.
>>829210
>WWE should bring back the cruiserweight belt and let them flip among themselves
its called the NXT world title, they basically made it that after bo lost it to gravity man.
>>829223
>Implying Cena's time isn't up
He's been losing clean more and more in the last couple years. He's going to be fed to Roman like he was to Lesnar. BALEEB DAT
>>829220
No you just described smarks.
https://twitter.com/TheDamienSandow/status/676604625441656832
Getting pretty fucking tired of these fucking millennials who think they're automatically entitled to everything.
>>829223
the tears are delicious
>>829230
>rightfully so
Not him, but how? He's literally the exact same as when he was being booed. Still meh in the ring, still shit on the mic.
>>829233
>He's going to be fed to Roman
>fed
Why do moron smarks like to misuse this word? If Cena loses to someone he's not being "fed" to them.
>>829236
What would he win for?
The Mizdow shit was last year.
>>829236
I have no sympathy for Sandow after seeing how obnoxious he is on UpUpDownDown
Cena cant come back now. Or else he'll ruin everything that just happened. Cena is way too over.
>>829241
>He's literally the exact same as when he was being booed
If that was true, why didn't he get booed tonight? You must be blind as a bat if you think the Roman of 1 year ago is still the same.
When's the last time a title match has been won on a nonPPV?
>>829236
hes going to spit hot fire?
based sizzle.
eh 2007-10 here we go again
>>829243
This is the guy they are legitimately going to build the company around for years to come. Yes, Cena losing will be him being 'fed' to him. This is the first time in a long time that Cena isn't all Vince can see.
Only caught the literal tail-end of Raw, the final spear.
Was it an amazing match or something? I never thought I'd see Bbygurl that over in Philly.
>>829250
one of the last MITB cash ins probably
>>829249
He was getting booed weeks ago. He hasn't done anything differently from then. TLC was a welcome break when he went crazy but then he reverted back to normal tonight.
Why does it take 9 hours for the wrestling observer post raw radio to go up? Alvarez is a lazy spic
>>829236
This is the sort of stuff you're basic pseudo-smark loves though. He's just doing it to stroke his ego when some virgin tells him he "deserves better"
>>829253
>RAW 2007-2010
Please no. I was bored out of my mind watching that product.
>>829166
It's kinda telling actually
>Seth down
>better push the other two Shebds
>but Dean not as hard
>>829255
It was a pretty good match with believable near falls
>>829246
miz is more so, at least sandow is funny and has great rhymes.
The problem with billing Reigns as Cena 2.0 is that Cena at least got over naturally. Sure, his act got tired after 10 years, but it was original and refreshing at the time and he had the mic skills and wrestling talent to defend his push. The FU and STFU are (were?) Actual fun finishers that are unique and wrestling moves
Roman is garbage on the mic ("tatertotslol", "prunes lol") and his finishers are LITERALLY a tackle and a punch
He's over right now because anyone who attacks Vince gets over automatically. It's gonna be shit in a few weeks when we remember Reigns is garbage
>>829255
Vince worked his magician powers
