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Thread Topic:
Ever seen a guy at the field memeing but was complete normie-tier about them? Did you confront him or just secretly rage about it?
first for fleck
iv damke
NORMIES!?
L85 for best bullpup
not a particularly great achievement, considering the other options
>>1107411
>Not even H&K could fix it
>>1107404
Fleck!
>>1107404
Ty for bearing the torch this time anon
>>1107419
God dammit are we going to have to go through this again?
Your kit is ugly and you stand like a faggot
>>1107423
hhnnnggg
>>1107423
Obviously not ready for hiiiiiiiigh leeeeeevel gaaaaaaaaaming
>>1107423
We are going to go through this for as many times as you get asspained about it.
>>1107423
UNTIL WE DIE
New gat
newfaggot here
what kind of airsoft pellets do you guys use and what do they look like
>>1107483
I use .25g and like this
>>1107471
ICS also makes a really realistic A2.
>Shot great in the store, as well as the first time out in the field
>Take it home, leave it in gun bag
>Next week, take out of bag and try to play
>Requires an hour of tinkering before choosing to work again
>Put back in bag, take it home
>Same shit next week except not even the real techs at the field can make it work
Well at least my $400 paperweight looks cool, and takes STANAG mags.
We snowflake camo now.
>>1107514
snowflake, you say?
>>1107514
>taking a picture of yourself using a mirror
>taking a picture of yourself using a filthy mirror
>taking a picture of yourself with a phone camera using a filthy mirror
>taking a picture of yourself with a phone camera with the flash turned on using a filthy mirror
>>1107429
hiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiigh leeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeveeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeel gaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaamiiiiiiiiiiiing
>>1107514
lose some weight sweetie pie
>>1107465
that filename
>>1107465
when did they legalize airshitting in Australia?
AIR SOFT?
>>1107404
FORCED MEME ALERT
>>1107419
Please be a bottom.
>>1107785
Can you shoot at their tank?
Any gas powered MP5 that are worth a damn?
>>1107807
Wish granted.
>>1107402
sauce on the qt grilll
>>1107809
Tanks way too high level for us to take on
Anybody have experience with the jg Aug or SL8?
Looking at getting a new gun and was wondering what they're like
>>1107471
What's wrong with it? I had quite a lot of problems with mine too, but got it working pretty well eventually.
>>1107931
>What's wrong with it?
It's an L85
anyone here applied any rl tactics to airsoft games
i've read plenty about jungle warfare tactics,mainly about the chindits,5307th unit,british unit during the malayan emergency and emulated some of it during gameplay such as getting our squad to do an arrowhead formation and specialized fireteams
>>1107964
If you're stuck, retreat, flank from right, shoot and scoot. Works always.
A friend of mine used to play HIGH LEVEL paintball in the national league or whatever it's called. He learned a lot of his tactics from actual military and police CQB training videos and such. He's sweeping floor whenever we go to CQB arenas.
Post milsim kit pics anons? Also rate kit?
(I don't actually take all this, it's tailored to the mission)
>>1107902
My friend's JG Aug had the front end snap off, body felt pretty shit though I think the internals were okay.
No personal experience though, not a fan of either weapons.
Are there any cheap NVGs that will mount to a FAST/Bump helmet? Gen 1 is fine
>>1107902
Had their AUG, absolutely trash and riddled with design flaws, stay away.
>>1107831
Florida?
>>1107416
Have you ever actually used one? I use one almost every single day, the thing outshoots any NATO rifle bar MAYBE the Sig 550, can go for weeks in dusty sand nigger bowls without needing cleaned and still fire every last round. The ONLY downside to the rifle was that shitty SUSAT scope and the lack of accessories, but they've solved it by slapping some rails on and replacing the scope.
>>1108070
gr8/8
>>1108070
wow a black M4 with an angled grip and flip ups
cool
>>1108107
It's so unique I know, I might even put a red dot on it. Nevabedunbefo
>>1108112
I don't think the world is ready for that kind of innovation anon
What's a good beginner M4/M16?
budget up to 250€
will also consider 2nd hand replicas if anyone knows the market for those
>>1108117
I heard the pastebin labeled
"For Beginners" is pretty good
>>1108117
Combat Machines.
>>1108117
TM Marui
>>1108117
should I bother looking at 2nd hand stuff or just buy new?
>>1108142
if thats your budget just buy new
>>1108142
It's generally advised to buy new for your first gun
But if you want used you can usually find package deals of guns + mags + batteries + equipment second hand
My current primary and secondary
G&G M14 EBR with 4x scope and green laser
And KWA Beretta M93r
What do you think senpai?
>>1108165 sorry, for some reason it was upside down
Check out my division loadout guys
>>1108183
>Buys shitxpensive meme chest rig
>Can't afford better optic or rings or anything
>Can't even lift
>>1108183
Very high level.
>>1108117
G&g combat machine. It's the best beginner m4. Later you can become more high level.
>>1108032
>nvg
>cheap
>gen 1
>fine
You need to become step your game up and become more high level.
>>1107900
No. The tank is like a deuce truck. Made for real war, but obviously toy war is too high level for it. So no, you can't shoot the high level tank.
>>1108202
What the fuck stop it with the combat machines. They are not fucking worth it, and you if you recommend them either you don't know shit or G&G paid you to say so.
Every single airshit store has a G&G Sponsor.
>>1108219
Why? For $140 they last long as fuck. The field I play at used them as rental guns, in 3 years only 4 of them have broken out of 20 or so, and the fixes were simple.
>>1108117
Just buy a systema, they're good starters.
>>1108219
Are you a retard? CM was one of the first guns I ever got, it still works to this day
>High level
Have we actually birthed our first decent meme?
>>1108244
>decent
sure bro, we did (?)
>>1108245
G&P or E&L?
>>1108183
Neckbeard/10
Lowest Level
>>1108249
Systema
>>1108249
That one was good, good times
>>1108245
>decent
You mean HIGH LEVEL MEMEING
>>1108238
Thanks m8. Mag compatibility is a bit of a hassle with these. They're compatible with CA M14 mags but you can't use CYMA, G&P or TM mags with it. The reason behind this is because theres a notch in the top left of the mags to fit with the gearbox, therefore, I've only ever used G&G mags with it. All in all, if you want an EBR but don't want to go broke or buy a shitty one, the G&G is the way to go
>>1107411
Before I bought my gun, I was going to go for one of these. I love the looks. The reason I didn't was because I heard some bad reviews for the G&G one. Also my buddy had one and he brought it to a field one day after a repair and it didn't work so he sperged out and smashed it against the ground
>>1108275
Am I the only one who read this like:
"MULTI-TRACK DRIFTING!"
>>1108131
>ARES AMOEBA
>GOOD
CHOOSE ONE AND ONE ONLY
>>1108320
It's obviously too high level for you.
>>1108381
>ARES
>HIGHLEVEL
KEK
>>1108381
>ARES
>EVER
H I G H L E V E L
>>1108406
HIGH LEVEL GAAAAAAAYMING
>>1107974
Depends on how long the milsim is I'd also take spare uniform and boots.
>>1108142
Depends on the seller. Around here we have shitloads of Cyma brands sold for "lost interest" that usually translates into the gun being used on one game and then put to a closet for a year.
>>1107974
need more canteens
>>1108427
I have the spare uniform on there, plus in a pinch I could wear my Gorka with only underwear underneath.
I'd probably keep dry clean footwear in my car, but I don't think I'd take it out into the field with me.
>>1107471
>ARMY
>>1108183
>that scope mount
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
What're you looking at, rental?
>>1108746
highest level
>>1108746
>milf hunter
oh christ why
>>1108746
>wiring sticking out of the stock and reciever
>>1108746
> toy gun faggots
>>1108746
Looks like /wwe/ first day out in the field.
>>1108772
I don't know if this is trolling /asg/ or wrasslefags.
MY BONER IS CONFUSED
>>1108768
I do it too if I have to. Sometimes 20A isn't enough.
>>1108746
I puked a bit in my mouth, fucking disgusting
Get higher scrubs
>>1108746
Tbh, I'd rather keep playing on my field where 70% of players are 12-17 year old kids with stock CYMA ak's that with fatty mcLardass and his team DARKSTRIDER9
6-col Desert, accept no substitutes
>>1108804
He looks like Cameron from Ferris Bueller's Day Off, but with a beard.
>>1108814
2/10, not salty enough
>>1108814
>6 colour desert
>not chocolate chip camo
>not wearing superior tri colour desert
>not calling it coffee stain camo
apply urself
>>1108231
My local field used to use JG G36s and those lasted for ever.
Now the use Echo 1 SOG-68s and Elite Force M4s because of sponsorships and my friend that worked there as a rental tech said that the Echo 1s were always breaking, and the EFs were all over the place in terms of both quality control, FPS, and RPS.
>>1109019
you're a faggot and your taste in camo is shit
fuck off with your tumblr gifs nigger
>>1108966
>tri-color
>glowing in the dark
Pick two.
Face it, AKs are better than M4s, especially in airsoft.
>>1109057
B8 detected
>>1108746
>this high level milsim. You need to commit to be as autistic as me. Only the highest of level.
>>1109063
>blue furniture
>no HIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIGGGGGGGGGGGGGH LEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEVEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEL rails
i'mma give it 2/10 but that's all I can do
>>1108746
what are you looking at, smoothskin?
>>1109057
Not really.
t. person who only owns aks
>>1109079
Who the fuck needs rails on an AK? Shit taste confirmed.
>>1109083
kek
>>1108746
>you must be this high level to be this tryhard
>>1109086
>doesn't put high level rails on every space available
NYET RIFLE IS FINE DOVARISCH XD
>>1109057
This ak isn't hiiiiiiiiigh leeeeeveeeeel...... I doesn't have enough rail space for hiiiiiiiigh leeeeeeeeveeeel attachments.
Is high level the new high level meme of the day?
>>1109057
Nah.
>>1109129
If you have to ask, you're not high level
>>1109144
I take that as a yes.
>>1109057
whoa sick blue laminate dude
This is some high level shitposting
>>1109057
V3 > V2.
The day someone starts manufacturing AR15 that has V3 gearbox, is the day I might start considering buying one. Fuck V2 and fuck whoever thought that the motor should float freely in the grip.
>>1109243
THIS
>>1109201
It's just ceramcoat paint lol.
>>1108746
>elbow pad not even on the elbo
>>1109057
https://youtu.be/synlZgnTnXg?t=1960
>>1109289
>3. AR15 5:56
Purely unintentional, I'm sure.
>this thread
What's with all the "high level" thing?
>>1109289
>AK strong comrade urahhh haha
>shits the bed after 1 round with some dirt on it
to be fair he could have just charged it and it would have fired fine, but any failure after 1 round is just gay
>>1109057
The motor cage is honestly the greatest thing on airsoft AKs. I don't have to reassemble half the gun just to test the gearbox, like on an AR.
Plus the fact that you can get a pretty decent steel AK for under 200 is nice.
I still love ARs, tho
What place you guys using to buy china optics?
>>1109289
>Shitty arsenal AK fails
Who would have guessed? All these 'murrican videos showing the AK failing have some shitty budget or shitty east european AK failing under sand in comparison to an AR of higher quality. At least try to be unbiased.
>>1109571
>damage control
>>1109575
Any gun will fail if its made by a shit company
>>1109578
>it was made by a shit company!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DX73uXs3xGU
Your rifle is shit
>>1109583
>Romanian gypsy nigger AK
wew lad
>>1109589
>suicide watch
>>1109571
Bulgarian AKs are some of the finest available, I don't think that Arsenal is made in Bulgaria though, as a SAM-7SF would take that shit like a champ.
Also, an AK isn't immune to dirt and debris, it'll handle a good deal of it, but the deal is that clearing out shit from the receiver is just real easy to do, because it's simple and there's lots of room, you take off the cover and shake it out, which is easy enough to do in a firefight if you're behind cover.
It's all trade-offs though (and personally, I like the AR much much better).
>>1109571
Arsenals are the best American made AKs
According to /k/
>>1109591
AKs generally can be easier to maintain than an AR but modern variants made under equal quality controls are equivalent in terms of handling dirt. My main point is that you see so many garbage AKs made from parts kits or shitty countries that of course fail under similar circumstances to ARs. You look at the actual AKs that just fucking werk throughout the history of the rifle series and they're more often than not Russian surplus which were made in factory to take a beating by vatniks drunk on cheap vodka.
>>1109595
American made AKs are still fairly shit because they're made to look like an AK but not actually perform like a service rifle. I'd rather own an american AR if I had to choose between the two.
>>1109394
what you've never heard of hiiiiiiigh leeevvveeelll gayyyming?
>>1109566
aliexpress
bought a 4x magnification scope,works fairly fine
>>1109608
I'm not sure what the context is here.
>>1109631
you must've missed the last high level thread
>>1109640
What happened in said thread?
>>1109650
high level memes
>>1109650
>What happened in said thread?
basic summary
>>1109595
Arsenals are made in Bulgaria.
The only decent American AK I can think of right now is the Century C93v2, which is passable, amazingly enough, considering it's made by Century.
Waffen Werks used to be pretty good, then they became popular, then they tried to keep up with demand by making their product less good, then they became shit, then they went out of business for being shit.
>>1109603
>You look at the actual AKs that just fucking werk throughout the history of the rifle series and they're more often than not Russian surplus which were made in factory to take a beating by vatniks drunk on cheap vodka.
Yeah, but then you have Yugoslavian and Chinese ones, those tend to cut the mustard, then the East German ones and the previously mentioned Bulgarians, which were some tiers above.
>I'd rather own an american AR if I had to choose between the two.
Tru dat, they've been doing it for six decades, and they've become exceedingly good at it.
Or a WASR-10/63, which is a good deal at this point, as they're actually passable now, on top of being cheap (don't expect anything amazing though)
>Discussion of high quality AKs
>No one mentions Sako
>>1109693
Pretty much of this. A few people that browse here I guess play at that field as well. A couple of them chimed in with stories of a team with a leader that I guess modifies the rules to benefit him and his team. I guess he calls things "high level" when he changes them because it's supposed to make the player base play harder, but in reality it's only because they kept getting owned and needed to make it easier for them.
>>1109762
>or galil
>>1109815
also he is referred to as king kang/kang because he's a gorilla
>>1107423
>the same shitty opinion with the same shitty image with no original content
Who let this guy in?
>>1110610
>21 hours ago
>trying to start shit
please kill yourself
>Keep strictly real-steel topics in >>>/k/
>>1110642
You're not even high level, nerd.
Does anyone have link to video where Asian guy catches clip from m1, and the guy with the led lit pelican case?
You guys must be horrible players. You bash a team that has actual structure and standards. How many of you fuckers are actually serious airsofters? What's wrong with a higher level of gaming?
>>1111202
>tfw not high level
>>1111202
gr8 b8 m8 i r8 8/8
>>1111202
if HIIIIGH LEEEVVVVEEEELLL GGGAAAMMMIIINNNGGG means you have to change the rules to win, you deserve this bashing.
>>1111266
It's not changing the rules. It's making them more fair. When you have a place that's maybe 60% surrounded by walls, you don't need full auto to defend it. If you can't defend that area with just semi, you need to step your game up.
I don't know about that whole truck incident, but if what they're saying is true they should be actually trying to hit the players and not the truck. Get better aim and actually play at a higher level
"Let's bring things that we don't want hit with airsoft bbs onto an airsoft field during the game and use it to hide from people shooting airsoft bbs"
>>1111368
I cannot believe you are unironically engaging against this shitposting. The fact that you're taking 4chan seriously enough to get assblasted over them making fun of your team is enough for your to deserve every memepost against you and your autism.
And I can't stand it. This meme is awful, but you're just making it worse for everyone. Give up.
>>1111368
>It's not changing the rules
the rules used to be a certain way, then they werent that's called a change
>>1111438
this
>>1109762
>Sako in the US
Good fucking luck. A sporter Valmet maybe, not not an RK-95.
Anyone have any good airsoft stories involving vehicles? I've been in a rollover.
>1st year airsofting
>Fresh juicy newb
>Operation has a night portion
>Get picked to be in a jeep as a hit and run gunner crew
>Get to drive shotgun
>Driver is some site employee who's probably 16 pushing 17
>Innawoods going around in this jeep having fun blasting people
>All of a sudden enemy team's armored car pulls up
>Ohfuckfuckfuck
>Driver slams the stick into reverse
>I have my arm out still using my AR like a pistol
>Jeep goes from 0 to 25 into a rock that just so happens to be angled
>Manage to pull my arm in just in time as I feel some shit is about to happen
>BANG BANG BANG
>EEEEEEEEEEEE
>Oh god what the fuck
>Realize I'm on my back on the celing of the jeep
>Grab my gun and crawl my way out
>In my delirium I don't care about the rollover and shoot out the passenger window while I'm crawling out
>Everyone around me is yelling cease fire while I dive into the bushes
>By the time everyone gets over to the jeep I was 40 feet away from it in cover
>Driver suffered minor spinal injuries and people had to convince me to see a paramedic
Adrenaline is a hell of a drug
>>1111577
>only occasionally play weekend skirmishes
>no vehicles
>be me
>Opaeration BHD2015
>first outdoor experience
>very excited
>on somolian team
>objective is to stop americans from getting water/food barrels into a deuce and a half
>game starts
>run halfway across the field to stop them from doing so
>team leader kang has driven the truck into the village area where the barrels are
>team HIGH-LEVEL 811 are the americans loading the barrels onto the truck
>everyone unloads on them
>no one calls their hits
>they hide behind the truck
>not a single one called a hit
>bbs happen to hit the truck because airsoft guns arent accurate
>ape gets on megaphone
>"don't shoot the hiiiiigghhh-leevvvveellll truuuck"
>shoot them more
>still no hits called
>they load all the barrels and win the first round
TL;DR fuck 811
>>1111577
>be me
>first time playing outdoor
>first op
>pumped
>game was supposed to be blackhawk down themed
>be on "Somalian" team
> teams are horribly unbalanced
(Which was realistic, but seemed a little unfair and not too Sportsmanlike)
>we get to our starting point
>our objective, run to the "village" and stop the US team from taking our "food and water."
Game starts
>sprint like a motherfucker down this hill with whole team of around 50 - 70 people.
>see US team loading our shit onto the back of a what appeared to be some kind of old World War II truck or something like that. (I'm not big on my vehicles so I don't know exactly what it was.)
>Proceed to engage people that are shooting at us from the truck
>there are people hiding on top of this truck, behind this truck, in front of this truck, under this truck, and everywhere in between.
>at least two people blaring the way with LMG's
>two or three snipers and DMR's taking pot shots at people.
>this goes on for a solid 15 seconds
>keep in mind, they are still using this truck is cover
>guy inside the truck sees his team getting lit to shit
>proceeds to yell with a megaphone out the window of said truck "DONT SHOOT THE TRUCK!!!!!!!"
>truck eventually drives off.
After talking to some of the other players, mostly old school players from the area; the guy that was driving the truck has a history of changing rules when his team starts getting beat. I've been back since, and he doesn't seem to be around much anymore. And I guess the "old rules "of the field got restored. It's much better.
>>1111577
I've got a good airsoft story. Nothing to do with vehicles, but its something.
>be me
>holding down a two story fort in a four man squad against 15 enemies
>point of the game is to stay in base for a total of 20 min, enemies get unlimited respawn
>first position is on second story. I stay up there for 10 minutes, keeping enemies at bay with my M14
>Enemies begin to flank us, so I retreat to lower level with other 3.
>BBs start hitting everywhere with enemies within 50 feet of bunker
>tfw primary big as fuck
>within 7 minutes, my entire squad is wiped
>3 min to spare, what do?
>theres a desk in back of the room
>drop my rifle and pull out machine pistol
>hide under desk
>bbs smash against outside of the desk as I take out rushers trying to storm base
>mfw I hold off 15 enemies by myself using only a pistol and a work desk
>>1112213
Holy shit, you were there too? I was the guy with the m28.
I'm liking this airsoft story/811 meme thread. Lets keep it going senpai
>>1111577
>game mode is Americans in disabled tank have to defend themselves while they wait for a team to get them out, all while opfor attack the tank
>be on the American team in the tank
>tank is really an old ford van with a turret and the windows painted over
>blasting people from the gun ports
>2 guys left in tank and rescue team is pinned down
>hear foot steps on the tank, aim at turret opening
>a thunder B nade drops in
>mfw
>team mate throws it back up but it hits the rim of the turret
>it falls back down
>EEEEEEEEEEEEE
Where is 811 located?
>>1112349
holy fuck, I remember I mediced you on that trail right?
>>1112416
GZA, see the picture I posted earlier.
>>1112424
I think. You pulled me behind this bet up car and brought me back. The truck was already gone though, so it didn't matter. Thanks bruh!
>>1112552
no problem dude
>>1112650
>>1112552
>>1112424
>>1112349
>>1112717
Is that a high level dogger?
Holy crap I wanna get an AT4 just for that extra higher level milsim
>be me
>play with regular group of players at a local field
>one of the guys is a body builder on juice
>prone to roid rage
>rocks only Oakleys, doesn't wear face mesh cause its not "tacticool"
>brings 3 guns to the field, boasts about an L85 he just bought that is upgraded
>takes the L85 out, it doesn't work
>he troubleshoots it, but it's still not working
>his cheap walky keeps getting feedback, can't get it on our teams channel
>match is about to start, things are still fucking up for him
>in a fit of rage, he holds his L85 by the barrel and uses it as a bat to hit his walky into a cornfield
>can't make this shit up
>he realizes he forgot the battery for his UMP 45 at home so he is forced to play with his shitty combat machine the whole day
>while we're picking teams he jumps onto the enemy team, saying that our team wasn't "stacked"
>we head out into the field and take our positions
>game is capture the flag and I'm hidden on a hill over a clearing with two other DM's and a sniper
>the enemy is trying to flank us, but their position is given away by the roid dudes voice
>he was bitching about his L85 not working
>immediately we start shooting in the bush, only guided by the sound of his voice
>3 people call their hits including the roid dude
>we hold down the position still and once again, after the roid dude respawns we can hear him even LOUDER, talking about how cheap we are for camping in one spot
>mfw he thinks its cod
>we shoot in the bush where his voice is coming from
>nobody out this time
>he manages to get behind us
>we fire on him, no hits were called even though we were positive we got him
>hes within 75 feet and our sniper shoots him in the face
>mfw the bb hits him in the lip and chips his tooth after saying face mesh isn't cool
>he confronts sniper after game
>everybody just laughs at the guy and gives the sniper high fives
>>1112931
did he ever pick up the L85? I wouldve gone to see if he had that uber expensive DD rail on it
Does anyone still make a solid airsoft MP5? It seems here in the states, they are hard to come by.
>>1113022
CYMA, ICS.
>>1113022
My friend has the VFC MP5, magwell is tight as hell, but its solid externally. I think airsoftology, or airsoft dad, did a video on it
>>1113022
DID SOMEBODY SAY MP5???!!!
>>1113047
I'm not sure what I'm looking at? Mp5k? What brand?
>>1113062
CYMA, ICS.
Galaxy (Do they even make those anymore) if you want to go really cheap.
>>1112408
Damn m9. Thats rough.
>>1113062
not entirely sure, mine has the upper of an old Galaxy mp5k from like 2010
have you considered AEPs? parts might not be standard, but they aren't gas. I know JG makes an electric scorpion
>>1112408
Jesus that must have sucked. Shit like that is why people wear ear pro for ops like MSW.
>>1113066
it started life as a galaxy mp5k, but I changed literally everything but the upper, barrel, and hop-up
>>1113084
>>1113070
Jesus, either out of stock or in China, oh well
I've thought about AEPs, honestly the only one I considered was the Mp7 by WELL, and I was planning on using this strictly for clearing indoor rooms at the field in GZA. But even the the MP7 Im talking about, is only in asian airsoft sites, and if I wanted 3 extra mags, a battery, the shipping would stack it from 90 bucks to 140
>>1113099
What's different about it? What was wrong with it stock?
>>1113108
How much fps is your ebr? You can clear buildings with rifles as long as they're under 400.
>>1113132
With .20 I might add. So if it's like 450, putting .43's in it to get it under is a no no.
>>1112970
I'm pretty sure he still has the L85, it's just the Walky thats still in the bush. And no he didn't have the super expensive quad rails. It was bone stock externals wise
>>1113111
I replaced the GB shell and most of the internals, the rails (original was crap plastic and had chips in it) the lower to take a V2 gearbox because that's what I had lying around. I changed it because I wanted to test my abilities building a custom gun (and the stock internals were starting to break).
>>1113132
Evike apparently chrono'd it at 455 FPS, which I dont believe, considering Ive seen most get it with near high 390s or low 400s, I used to rock a Socom Gear M9 but I fucked it up, and gave it to an old friend who kept playing airsoft after I got disenchanted with airsoft 2 years ago.
>>1113132
There's 3 things:
1. Despite the colapsible stock, the gun still has a long barrel (I own the long barrel version, not the short barrel) so it's still clunky to maneuver in right spaces
2. It's pretty heavy (mine wears 12 pounds with all accessories). So the guy with the 3 pound AK74U or mp5 will have the upper hand, literally
3. Some people will automatically assume your gun shoots 450+ fps of you have a DMR. So if you shoot them, it'll sting and they'll freak out at you for bringing a "long range rifle" in a cqb environment, even if it's only shooting 380
>>1113183
Fuck, auto correct. You're never there when I need you
>>1113183
speaking of long barrels on EBRs, I was foolish enough in buying 4 inches of barrel extension for my EBR without realizing the threading for the Vortex flash hider, is really far up there, with no way for it to even attach to the extension. At least I got the steel flash hider on the actual Rifle.
![IMG_0488[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/KSe28j4.jpg "IMG_0488[1].jpg")
>>1113198
And heres the rifle in question
>>1113211
I like it the way it is, there's no need (at least aesthetically) to add a barrel extension on your rifle. I noticed a lot of the gas rifles tend to look very true to the real steel counterparts. Some of the electric models (mainly CYMA and ECHO 1) cheap out with their models with cheap telescopic sites and pot metal construction. Here's how I used to have my EBR set. I use a Kwa m93r as a backup because I've got 3 firing modes on it. Making it really versatile (and lightweight) as a back up/room clearer
>>1113108
>honestly the only one I considered was the Mp7 by WELL
Just don't. There's nothing well about WELL MP7s. Easily the worst AEP in existence.
I've had about four of them at this point over the span of like eight years. First one was an Umarex branded model (And it was actually my first AEG. Got it from Sports Authority for like $75 on sale) that had the battery contacts fry in a day and was sent back, got a new one from them and that one had the gearbox shit the bed right out of the box within 30 rounds. I got two more of them a couple of years later as a bundle for $50; one had a cracked gearbox with full externals, and the other one had a perfectly fine gearbox with just the receiver. I made a frankengun out of the two, and it eventually developed some compression issues that I still haven't fixed to this day.
Hell, it's still in my friend's closet from like two or three years ago for when he borrowed it as a prop for an school project in our junior year.
Pic related, the only picture that I have of the thing since it broke.
>>1113284
And how they looked when I first got them. Dude threw a gold springer deagle shell for kicks.
Either way, if you want an MP7 AEP then get the Marui.
![IMG_0490[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/30ITBN3.jpg "IMG_0490[1].jpg")
>>1113256
Thanks, In the future, should the JG M14 inside of the chasis die out, I'll probably just get a G&P M14 and put it inside the chasis. But you seem to be right about the cheap metal, in the attached pic, the lower rail segment where I mounted the bipod, originally actually snapped off to my dissapointment, leaving only the Section secured via rail on. so I pretty much had to attach via gorrilla glue, and keep the bipod over the half way point on the rail.
>>1113284
Sweet Trijicon man is that a replica RX 01 or 02?
Speaking of replicas, I got a replica LaLrue SPR mount for my short dot, for like 26 off aliexpress, now I gotta wait like 3 weeks for the damn thing.
>>1113295
>>1113284
Thanks for the insight, it just always seem alright to me based off the videos I've seen, but I'll take your word to heart, honestly if I was gonna get a TM itd have to be the Recoil Shock M4s, but the MP7 does like might fine. But along that price point, I might keep scrounging for that MP5K
>>1113145
What gears are those? Did you port that piston yourself? Looks pretty high level.
>>1113320
That's unfortunate. External build quality always trumps internal build quality in my eyes because when you build a DMR, you end up gutting and upgrading a lot of the internals anyhow. I used to hear stories about CYMA EBR's snapping in half. The G&P models are known for their internal build quality, since they are Tokyo Marui clones. The hop-ups are magic in them. I'd drop the G&P into the chassis whenever you can. You'll end up with a far superior rifle.
>>1113320
But then again, if you're having issues with your externals falling apart, you might want to just consider buying a new rifle.
Being a G&G EBR owner, I can vouch for their quality.
The classic army ebr apparently is good too (a clone of the G&G EBR)
If you really have some cash, you could always get a TM M14 action and drop it into a G&P EBR frame (this is extremely expensive though)
I can't honestly think of any gas M14's that I would recommend though. I've heard WE's EBR is great when it actually works, but it's prone to all the same issues other gas guns have plus they have shitty customer support.
In the end, the choice is yours and you might be attached to the gun you have but if you can see it falling apart soon, I'd recommend looking into what I listed above
>>1113364
Honestly when I bought the EBR for 220 then saw like a week later that the CA HBA EBR was like 300 I said to myself "Shit I shouldve just gotten that one."
I'll just ride this one till it dies on me. It makes a good display piece other wise with the King Arms stand I got for it. On a side bit, the damn thing is so finicky with its mags, I got these CYMA metal midscaps because I've been told that it actual works flawless with them, of course they didnt.
>>1113369
Another bit I don't imagine anything else breaking on me anytime soon externally wise, since the EBR is like 4 components, the top heat shield, the main chasis, the pistol grip (which is secured via small hex screw and a giant lug screw, which may actually present an issue later should the screws break) and the stock itself. But I probably just jinxed myself saying that.
>want m14
>has complicated as fuck gearbox
>dont wanna deal with that headache when it breaks
Being a lmg fag is getting expensive...
Anyone recommend any good spring bolt action snipers with a good aftermarket?
>>1113378
I'm one of the EBR guys here, and if I had to say, get the M40A3, looks great externally, and, correct me if I'm wrong, 100% VSR-10 compatible with upgrades.
>>1113372
Haha yea, they're nice guns to look at but when it comes to fixing them, its a hassle. I don't know about you but I used to hate taking mine apart when I first bought it because it wasn't an easy gun to take apart.
>>1113382
Link to gun? I'm new to the sniper game, and don't know much.
>>1113387
The only gearbox I can take apart without fucking up so far has been the m249 gearbox in my a&k. My tech game is weak.
>>1113378
I'm debating on what I should do with my gear box in my G&G M14. There's no problem with it, I just want to beef it up. Think it's best to just take it to a knowledgeable technician. Or just learn how to do it on your own and become a gun tech wizard
>>1113378
Why not get the WE-tech SSR? These things look like straight up murder in brown, and I can vouch for their quality. A friend of mine bought one, and it's never let him down. The only pain is their proprietary magazines.
http://airsoft.tiger111hk.com/p23585/WE-MK20-SCAR-H-Sniper-Support-Rifle-SSR-AEG-(Tan)/product_info.html
>>1113387
I know what you mean, first the stock, then remove that stock clip, then take off the 6 screws, then take off the heat shield, then grab 12 virgins, summon cthulu to hold the EBR straight while you take out the gear box.....
>>1113389
http://www.evike.com/products/53947/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bi_DsO4X9nI
http://www.evike.com/products/50626/
>>1113394
I'd take it to a tech, you wouldn't operate on your own kid would you?
>>1111577
Oh boy mine is just like the 811 story
>First major milsim
>new rule set that year, major clusterfuck
>also the tan team has two trucks
>one is a troop carrier, the other a gun truck
>only differenence is the way some wood was on the sides (i.e no differance)
>squad is fucking about in one of the towns when the "troop carrier" rolls up
>people inside the carrier were not suppose to shoot
>they shot
>We as a squad +10 randoms magdump
>Driver/owner gets out and starts screaming at us
Admin told him to shut the fuck up and get back to driving
>>1113394
Please don't man. The V7 gearbox is literally helll to work on. You see the position of your fire selector? It's only way back and can only be way back because there's a lever. You see how there's no motor in the pistol grip? That's because the gearbox had to be designed to accommodate the new motor position and it's all kind of complex. It's just a terrible design.
so how many people go to GZA on this general, it seems like there is 4-5 different people.
>>1113401
true, only problem is that I'm a Canacuck and the hobby isn't as developed as it is in the US. Finding a good gun tech that isn't a ham-fisted know it all shop-owner or a 14 year old kid with gold painted guns is pretty hard lol
I got my first AEG a few weeks ago, how do I start upgrading internals from stock? Or should I just wait until something needs fixing?
>>1113320
>>1113329
It's (or at least was) a fully licensed RX01 replica with the triangle reticle. Got it for somewhere around $40-50 from a guy at my field.
It died out after a year or so and I regret tossing the thing. It was such a cool looking thing and I could have gotten a carrying handle mount for my M733.
Fuck I really need to get another one now.
>>1108406
Whats actually wrong with the Ares Amoeba? I was close to buying one when I saw this post
>>1113414
I just found out about this board a few days ago. I frequent /k/ a lot and they'd always tell us to go to /asp/. It was by some off chance that one of the /asp/ posters told us about /asg/ and to stop cluttering their "wrestling" board
>>1113378
Pretty much anything that can take VSR-10 parts. Keep in mind though that spring snipers are endgame tier when it comes to price; up there with things like P*s, Hi-Capas, and GBBRs.
You could stay sub $500 and get a decent rifle with tight grouping and maybe 200 ft range, but oh boy there is no ceiling on bolt guns.
Also you could get an SR-25 or a WE SSR ( >>1113399 ) if you want a 7.62 Real Fuckin' NATO DMR.
>>1113427
if its easy stuff like an M4, I'd say changing the barrel is probably the easiest thing, or the bucking and nub. Generally though, if it aint broke, don't fix it, in my opinion.
>>1113430
I'd do it, I'd shoot for a RX-02, the polarizing adjustable feature is damn neat, and not many people run it, so it'd definitely add to the special snow flak status in a sea of genericness and EOTechs.
>>1113431
It's pretty good, but just not good enough for it's price point. It has tons of electronic firing features but no actual arcing protection, which precludes the usage of 11.1 lipos. The gearbox is well tuned and will provide a decent RoF and compression, but the parts are subpar. Lastly, a lot of people don't like how plasticky it is.
For just a bit more, you could get a Krytac, which is leagues better in terms of electronic fire control, electric protection, relatively same in gearbox tuning, far superior in terms of gearbox parts, and far far superior in terms of design. Krytac guns are super easy to service and practically require you to remove one or two pins at most to access the gearbox. They even have quick change spring mechanisms so you can swap FPS on the fly. Their exteriors are steel and much more beefy.
>>1113441
Might as well tell him to get the M110 in that case too, Evike has one for 420, but they labeled it as a SR-25, besides, Muh Licensing
>>1113446
God. I've been playing too much Mass Effect. I pretty much had both of those guns spinning around with stats bars to the side
>>1113442
I actually still have the polarizer from it somewhere.
>>1113454
playing ME3 Multi?
>>1113471
ME1 Singleplayer on hardcore. Feels like a nightmare sometimes. Call your fucking hits Krogans! Jesus!
>>1113431
They're not high level
>>1113427
Use it until it breaks. Then start fucking with it.
>>1113514
Yes actually. That is a succinct way of putting it. Moderate level externals with moderate level tempering using low level parts without essential durability upgrades at an unduly high price range. They'd be the flashy, shitty elven blades that'd eat up your party's gold that are sold right next to the hardy, proven enchanted Dwarven weapons.
>>1113414
Believe it or not, i suspect a bit more than that. I know for a fact a bunch of guys that frequent various boards on the Chan; just not sure how many of them come here.
>>1113402
>he thinks there is only one 811 story.
Thankfully, they don't seem to play much, and the ones that do are the cool ones for the most part, but there are many more stories of their bad players being cunts on and off the field.
