Is there anyway for a guy to lose their virginity over 30 without lying or going to a prostitute?
It seems like women automatically dump male virgins
Female responses would be good
>>16669619
Don't be a male vurgin.
Would anyone really dump someone normal if she found out he's a virgin? It's more like the really old virgins are often super fucking weird.
>go to bar
>get completely shitfaced
>find some girl that's completely shitfaced/wait until bar's closing
>don't mention you're a virgin
>stick it in
Tadaa, your life is now 500% better and different in every kind of way.
>>16669630
Yes, they'll say that being a virgin automatically makes them "not normal"
I wanna puke I can't sit still , just took some dope and i feel ill
it's a sick world and i hate it
I was going to make a similar thread but I'll just post here since my birthday's soon:
At what age does being a virgin make me undatable? How much money would I need to offset this?
Is a relationship even worth all the effort? Would I be better of with prostitutes/escorts/asian massage parlors?
>>16669697
If you're 20 in 2016 its starting to make you undateable.
If you're 25 you are at your last straws.
>>16669626
that's very helpful
Don't tell them?
Can't tell you how many guys I've slept with who accidentally blow their load too soon. Probably won't phase her.
>>16669705
While I agree with your estimates, I think people should be aware that after you've lost your virginity, you're assumed to have sex at least semi-regularly, otherwise "losing your virginity" doesn't really mean much if you still suck at sex. Losing it at 18, and not having sex for ten years mean that you're for all intents and purposes as good as virgin again at 28.
>>16669697
It all depends on the person. Last night I was drinking with some friends. This guy said he didn;t have sex until he was 18 and this girl we were with almost keeled over. She thought that was so outrageous. I lost my virginity at 16 and feel that 18 is acceptable.
I have a friend who is a 19 or 20 year old virgin and I don't think any less of him for it. But 20 really is beginning to push it. I'd say if you haven't lost it by 21 that's really starting to get weird. If you haven't lost it by 22 there is a good chance something is wrong with you. And if you haven't lost it by 25 you probably never will.
>>16669742
> And if you haven't lost it by 25 you probably never will.
Figured. Seeing as I'm over 30 I'm just not gonna waste my time anymore and just accept I have to be alone for the rest of my life. My therapist keeps trying to tell me to try but fuck that she doesn't know what the world's like.
gif in thread starter is Stephanie Dahl btw
>>16669742
>And if you haven't lost it by 25 you probably never will.
>>16669774
>>16669755
I lost it at 28. I just acted like I knew what I was doing. The girl adored me for like 6 months. Still don't know why.
>>16669755
If your therapist really cared about you she'd take your virginity. I think it's time to find a new therapist.
>>16669742
I'm 23. I don't think I couldn't lose it, but I have a giant cyst on my dick and don't want to risk getting my dick cut up for something that isn't a health hazard. I'm too scared to show people my fucked up dick.
But also I really don't see the big deal with virginity, but everyone else I know seems to, so I guess I'm the weird one.
>>16669736
when you are over 30 and still a virgin everyone knows.
>>16669802
she helped me get through a lot without having to take medications and I'm thankful for that
But she keeps feeding me the shit that "a woman you like wouldn't care about that!" and this thread just proves thats bullshit. There's no woman in the world who would put up with a virgin my age
>>16669742
I dunno you seem to be in a vacuum rather than in a place that's representative of the people I'll meet in my life.
>>16669818
Just get with a prostitute or three, so you at least understand the basics of sex.
Then you'll feel about 5 times more confident hitting on women.
Also never talk about your sexual past.
>>16669818
whats especially good is the OP in the ask the opposite gender thread "Would you date a virgin? As long as they don't make a big deal out of it, complexes are a turn-off" No, being a virgin is the turn-off and they know it
>>16669818
Not entirely true. There are some women who would put up with, but it is HIGHLY unlikely that you would find one.
Can I ask what you do for a job now, and what you did in highschool/college/your 20s that made you not lose your virginity. I'm just curious.
>>16669742
your scale of age and virginity is really disturbing and retarded
>>16669742
Man what a sad world to live in. To be honest I don't care as long as it's not a a fucking weirdo as the anon above said. As long as it's someone I'm dating and that I find interesting...etc being virgin or not doesn't matter. First time might be awkward and suck but there's always next time.
>>16669829
>>16669818
>women perpetuating a lie and blindly believing it instead of just facing reality
shocking
>>16669837
>>16669829
This thread asked for opinions, and I gave mine. Explain why my opinion is retarded, and then give a better scale pls.
>>16669741
Pretty much. I lost it at 19 but haven't had any in 6 years. However people assume I get some for some reason, and I can use the inexperienced excuse if it ever comes up.
>>16669831
>but it is HIGHLY unlikely that you would find one
Exactly, so what's the point of trying? She shouldn't even tell me that and just prepare me for a life of loneliness.
>>16669638
I don't understand this advice.
Whenever I go out I do get completely shitfaced because social interactions are a bit scary for me. So I always have a drink in my hands and ofcourse what to do else but drink, can't open a conversation for nothing. And because of that I get too fucked up and sit anywhere for the rest of the night without giving a fuck for anyone
If I don't drink, I get uncomfortable and go to the restroom a lot, not to piss but just to walk because I can't just stand beside my friends for the whole night doing nothing. And I never saw those "drunk sluts at bar closing", it usually ends with small groups of people and no one is making moves on anyone anymore or anything.
But what do I know, I'm just a 22 year old kv
>>16669848
Damn, do you live in LA or something? Sounds like a very soul-crushing existence.
To be honest if you're not bad looking you could try Tinder.
How many times have you tried getting laid at bars/clubs or whatever you consider "going out"
>>16669862
You sound like a kid talking to his online friends about what his parents told him about not killing himself.
>>16669848
What ruins your attempts at relationship is that you focus on it. No one cares except shallow cunts who think not being a virgin is a social statut or sth. Do you really think someone with a brain would dump you on a detail like this except if you're the one who's fussint over it?
Or Idk maybe that's how it is in the US, that's some shitty country then
>>16669871
>Damn, do you live in LA or something? Sounds like a very soul-crushing existence.
No but I have to drive a very long distance, a part of it gets held up in traffic every day
>To be honest if you're not bad looking you could try Tinder.
I used Tinder for a year, only got responses from bots
>>16669913
Shit son, yea you kinda sound screwed, especially with your defeatist attitude. All the luck to ya because you sound like a decent guy, but the outlook seems rather grim.
>>16669845
There is no scale. People lose their virginity when they're meant to. Every person perpetuating this shitty 'you're abnormal if you haven't fucked by X years' stereotype needs to be gassed.
>>16670007
>People lose their virginity when they're meant to
and they're meant to lose it in their late teens. early 20s is a stretch and 30s is saying goodbye to a sex life unless you want to buy sex.
>>16670007
Well, with the "normal" age to lose virginity in america being 14-17, anyone who loses their virginity outside of this range technically is abnormal.
I never said that someone who hasn't lost their virginity was unlovable or untouchable. Just abnormal, and again, I'd say realistically if you haven't lost it by 25 the odds are extremely slim.
Maybe people who can't grasp the fact that abnormal =/= bad should be gassed.
>>16669619
if you arent very social its going to be very difficult
im in your same position and it just seems like some people just werent meant to reproduce/have sex
ill think about paying for it in the near future just to say I did it once
>>16670043
>ill think about paying for it in the near future just to say I did it once
Nah familia, if you're gonna pay for it do it so you have a great experience, paying just to look less pathetic or more like other people has the opposite effect.
Go all out, buy the best escort you can find and enjoy yourself.
>>16669619
You sound like Elliot Rodger, if you stopped acting like a creep, and get off the internet you'll see getting laid is actually really easy.
>>16669619
I am in the OP's situation as well, but I have given up completely. People will often say "that girl was flirting with you" and I am 100% oblivious to things like that. I figure I was just not meant to reproduce.
>>16670070
You probably have Aspergers, see a therapist.
>>16670054
>just to say I did it once
Im not going to tell anyone. its just for the experience like you said
>Go all out, buy the best escort you can find and enjoy yourself
thats the plan. unfortunately im in the US so most of the better looking escorts require references from previous escorts so im stuck in another loop...
>>16670059
>OP asks if he can fix a problem without lying or paying for a serivice
>OP makes an observation based on what he's seen
>OP asks for a certain perspective
>WOW YOU SOUND LIKE A SERIAL KILLER, FUCKING CREEPO
Please kill yourself Chad/Stacy.
>>16670084
1) Therapy is expensive - I tried it for two months. With insurance being used, it still cost me $640 USD for two months of therapy
2) Assume I do have Asperger's, like my mom always said she thought I did, is the therapist going to magically cure me and turn back my life ten years? No. I am past the point of help
3) The last time I tried therapy the guy just read the same four pages out of a book every session. I was supposed to "read this every day" or something. I could not use words like "I feel that" or "I think that" because apparently those phrases are "unhealthy." It's ridiculous. Also I had a friend who went to therapy for three weeks and he came out convinced he was a woman trapped in a man's body. Fuck that shit. Therapy is shit
>>16669807
>everyone knows
They aren't even intentionally looking either, it sort of pops up in conversation during random topics and they notice you're not talking.
>>16670033
Maybe people who can't grasp the fact that abnormal =/= bad should be gassed.
This concept needs to be grasped by more people. Maybe then I could stop evading people's attempts to find out about me.
>>16670115
Exactly. Or worse: they assume you are gay. Then you have that stigma, even if you aren't gay.
>>16670033
If we're using the American average as the normal age it would be 10-13, not 14-17.
>abnormal =/= bad
Stop posting.
>>16670116
> abnormal =/= bad
No one is denying that but like, you can infer things from it.
Being a virgin IN ITSELF, is not a bad thing, it's more of an indicator of social ineptness.
Like to be a virgin at 26 (me), I've failed most social hurdles, don't really have many friends, never been on a lads holiday, or parties or been to bars, basically I've never been to or participated in many social events, to the point where if I'm invited to one I wouldn't know what to do.
Talking to women is difficult and talking to pretty women is impossible. Hell, I can barely keep a conversation with dudes going.
In short, being a 25-40 year old virgin can reveal many things about you.
>>16670140
Do you really wanna derail the thread?
>>16670255
Absolutely, these threads are terrible. Though if you're the type of person to argue semantics I'm going to minimize it. On second thought I'll do that anyway.
>>16670327
> Absolutely, these threads are terrible.
Why? I like these threads, it's one of the few places that I'm not a complete loser in. Feels relieving to be able to vent about this. Couldn't do it IRL without major ridicule or indifference.
>>16670481
I am a complete loser :(
>>16669705
Turning 26 in three months.
>>16669742
I cried after reading this. 25, male, virgin.
>>16669742
Alright, so I guess I'm dying alone then.
Im 35 and never had any. (I fucked when I was 5 but I dont count that. Also my 2 older cousins would make me fuck them and stuff but I was a kid, and dont count that either.)
Im not ugly, and pretty funny. So I get some chicks interested in me. Even thought im the size of a house. I only dont fuck because of the embarrassment of lack of experince, small piece, and obese tits. So im not sure whats wrong with op, but it's pretty easy to get.
>>16670033
>abnormal =/= bad
>>16669742
>something is wrong with you
which is it
>>16669619
I honestly wouldn't think too much of it. UNLESS I was just looking for something super casual. As far as a relationship goes, the only thing that would worry me is a lack of experience having a girlfriend/how to handle things. I don't really care if you've fucked or not before.
>>16669619
Got to pratice first man, the worst thing about virgins is they become clingers after sex. Do kegal exercises to last longer.
threads like this really do make me want to kill myself
>>16670637
The shit they're saying is insane, Anon, don't worry about it.
After 20, you're weird? If it hasn't happened by 25 it never will?? No dude. If there's nothing medically wrong with you, this isn't even true. It's ludicrous.
I wouldn't worry about it. It's just sex. It won't kill you. Find some way to enjoy life and stop focusing on sex.
>>16670559
She probably had an exaggerated response because she lost her v-card at 12 or 13 and feels like a whore every day of her life for it. Meanwhile women who made it to college with their cherry intact sing that shit from the rafters because they know it makes them more attractive some how.
Do get a move on it anway tho. 25 IS starting to push it, if only because sex is one of life's joys that you shouldn't be missing out on
>>16670656
>>
but that is true
>>16670656
youve put the bullet off by a day
thanks i guess
>>16669619
>It seems like women automatically dump male virgins
Do you walk around with a sign that says "VIRGIN"?
Jerkin' off feels good too. Just think though you don't have any kids, a baby's momma or any drama.
>>16670637
They are cruel and stupid. Don't listen to them. Sex is not that great seriously. Fapping to porn is better.
It is worth doing it a couple times before you die, but just go to an asian massage parlor seriously. Get the experience and go onto much more important things in life.
My back has been in constant excruciating pain for a decade. After multiple surgeries I am still fucking hooked on pain pills and have tried to kill myself twice unsuccessfully. I hate my life. Want to trade you fucking ungrateful asshole? Seriously... I would kill for your problems. You have it pretty good.
Just tell everyone you're MGTOW. Google it.
>>16669755
>Seeing as I'm over 30 I'm just not gonna waste my time anymore and just accept I have to be alone for the rest of my life.
Wew I feel bad for you tbqh, not cause you're a virgin but because of how fickle you are, if you got a girlfriend tomorrow she'd cheat on you after a week.
>>16670718
>implying that would make him seem more attractive not less
This thread is incredible. Thinking that premarital sex somehow makes you MORE attractive? Shallow, egotistical and misguided individuals think so.
f you want to think for yourself, and not have sex until you are married, and even if you never get married, IT IS YOUR PREROGATIVE and in many women's and men's eyes it is a HUGE bonus to find someone who is a virgin... male or female... have you forgotten this?
Tell you what, take 100 successful people male and female both and ask all of them who they would rather date: an attractive virgin or an attractive person who has had sex with several people? The fact that "I HAD SEX" does not automatically flag your status as a stable, successful go getter. it just means you can't keep it in your pants.
This thread is incredibly backwards.
And to those stating statistics like "if you have not had sex by the time you are 18 you are abnormal" and "if you can't figure this out you should be gassed" I feel bad for you, man. You are way off the charts wrong on both counts.
Calling good evil and evil good is a sign of the times, right?
>>16670718
Do you say it out in words? Or do you just say the letters?
>>16670713
yeah i imagine sex would suck for anyone with constant back pain. doesn't mean it was so godawful for the rest of us
When you fap (masturbate) for the first time, you'll most likely bleed. Congratulations, you just lost your virginity to your hand. It's ok though, 'cause that's how I lost it
>>16669619
Consume alcohol and let jesus take the wheel.
>>16670782
People like you live in a dream world where things like "purity" exist.
People like me live in reality where your partner's sexual experience really, really matters to how your relationship will turn out. Where you can have bad sex with someone and then never want to see them again, or have good sex with someone and it completely makes you have intense emotions with them and try to meet as often as you can for dates and fuck sessions together.
>"Calling good evil and evil good is a sign of the times, right?"
No, you're just upset that girls would rather fuck some guy who's probably experienced with seducing and romancing women, knows how to fuck and doesn't need to label himself as a "pure virgin" for some stupid mantle of personal pride. Also, there is no good and evil, only arbitrary standards in your mind. And no, enjoying having sex is NOT evil you fucking idiot.
>"The fact that "I HAD SEX" does not automatically flag your status as a stable, successful go getter. it just means you can't keep it in your pants. "
It definitely suggests you at least have the social graces to be able to successfully go get sex if you so desire it.
Seriously no person on this planet thinks an adult virgin past the age of 25 is normal. 18-23 year old virgins might be viewed with a bit of subdued respect, because you wonder why someone wouldn't have just fucked someone else at least once by then, but figure maybe that person has a bit of shyness, bad circumstance or just didn't meet the right person. If there's no obvious, jarring physical flaws and any signs of attractiveness, the only explanation is that something about a person's lifestyle, behaviours or personality must be very offputting to others. Cause the rest of the planet tends to like fucking one another.
itt 20 - 30 y/o virgins affirm their collective belief that every female in the world cares how few women you've boned.
Just fucking meet some people god damnit, men and women it'll help you to meet more women, and stop obsessing about fucking all the time. Jerk off every day or two to get that tension shit out and just fucking relax.
Get a hooker pay her the money and get it over with if she asks how you did it lie.
>>16670782
Also stop with your reilgous terms in reality men over 30 who have not gotten at least one woman they have fucked are generally losers. Only reilgous faiths push virginity till marriage when you don't know if you are sexually capable with the partner.
Just massively drop any standards. Find a ugly girl that you can talk too. She will be so happy for the attention that you can relax and say whatever you want. Date her for a bit and there you go.
>>16669619
Lower your standards.
Fat chicks are known for being "practice girls"
>>16669619
Sauce on this OP? Sorry if it was already said in the thread
>>16671095
Stephanie Dahl
>>16670782
Anon, it isn't that simple. You can't tell people not to want what they want. I had the learn that the hard way being that I'm asexual (a lot of unnecessary nagging towards my friends to get a grip), but a lot of people might think that they're losers because they truly do want to have sex (outside of what society tells them), so what do you say to these people?
>Friends know I am a virgin
>Somehow always bring it up in front of girls
I am not ashamed but thanks, I can see by their faces how quickly their opinion changes of me.
>>16671144
he's not a friend.
Personal, what I would do, is do heavy research on what women desire in a partner and work up your technique. I had relations with a guy that had bedded many women, but he was the most self-ish lover you could ever imagine. When you have sex, don't be like that guy, please. Hopefully if you know how to work your stuff, the women around you will catch word, and you'll be bathing in the pussy. Also, be confident. I believe in you, anon. Go do some shit. Never talk about your sexual history. Fake it till you make. That is all.
>>16671144
oh my god
all my friends know too and also always bring it up
and if they're not my friends then I have no friends
>>16671151
Theres no malice behind it he(two friends do this) are fucking dumb as a sack of bricks. It is just bizarre to them because they find girls easy and it is casually slips out sometimes.
>I got up at 8 am
>Its raining outside
>Anon is a virgin
>I had pizza for dinner.
Still, it is not a big deal but people look at you in a different way. I have considered escorts or even pitty fucks but I decline both, doesn't seem worth just to be able to say yes.
>>16671162
Why do your friends bring it up? Are they male, if they are I don't care what anyone says bros should not know about each others hoes (corny as fuck) seriously do the people in your life, not have their own lives that they constantly need to bring up your lack of experience? What kind of dickheads are they?
>>16671104
Thank you
>>16671169
the social circle includes women also
the schadenfreude they experience in tormenting me must be better than sex itself
>>16671200
Yeah Women do it too, in my large circle of friends there is only two virgins. Myself and my gay friend, being gay seems to make it excusable for him.
>>16671209
>hurr durr why don't you get an okcupid
why dont you fucking drop dead cunt
>>16670868
I know they don't but my utter lack of experience doesn't do me any favours.
As for meeting people in general, I wouldn't know where to meet people I wouldn't bore, since I am as boring as fuck.
Constant jerking off has lead me into /d/ territory.
>>16670899
>tfw I don't know a single religious virgin and I know religious people who've taken me to church for a no sex before marriage sermon.
>>16669619
You don't even have to mention it.
I have a friend who has been ~ 15 girls. He hasn't slept more than 3 times with any of them.
I asked a girl I was also a friend with, why she kept avoiding my friend and having sex with him. She admitted that he sucked big time in bed.
Bottom line: Non-virgins can suck in bed too. Just go along and don't mention it.
>>16672234
No pressure....
>>16671162
>Friend group knows I'm a virgin
>Female member of the group won't shut up about it
>Obviously forms a large part of how she sees me
>Birthday present was a sleeping blindfold with "Be gentle, I'm a virgin".
In my experience, my male friends don't really give a shit but the females really seem to take it to heart.
>>16671221
your attitude is the reason you're still a virgin
>>16670836
week said anon
>>16672366
Is she single?
Maybe she wants your D.
>>16671144
If I am still virgin past 25, I won't admit it to anybody.
>>16672512
Yes, but I've given up on the "does she, doesn't she" game, Anon. I could list a dozen instances that show she does, and I could list a dozen that show she doesn't. Better to assume she doesn't and, if I'm going to date, date outside the friend pool.
Be attractive and I'll take it for free.
Hookers don't care. Hookers are your friends (for a price of course).
>>16672366
No female friends to contradict that but a couple male friends never let up when they land on the subject. But they're bastards anyway.
And I'm sure one is a latent homosexual.
>>16672691
Doesn't really help your social skills or lack of friends or boost yourself esteem knowing you had to buy sex.
>>16670836
>Seriously no person on this planet thinks an adult virgin past the age of 25 is normal.
They do though, you just haven't been in those social circles or limit "no person" to only the opinions you yourself hear. There are also people who shun virgins because they lack sexual experience, sure, but that's characteristically shallow and something I see most often out of young adults.
>the only explanation is that something about a person's lifestyle, behaviours or personality must be very offputting to others.
Boy are you stupid.
28 year old fat kissless virgin here. If I wasn't fat I'd have lost this virginity years ago. Everything else about my life is in order (car, job, friends, house) plus I have zero problems talking to women. It's the getting them to fuck me part that's difficult because I'm a fatty. It's all my fault, don't get me wrong, but it's not as cut and dry as people on this board make it out to be. People are genuinely shocked when they learn I'm a virgin.
>>16672736
How fat is fat? Cos I know fat people who have been laid.
>>16672715
man, everyone on the planet likes sex.
stop pretending you're not weird compared to others if you either have no desire to do it or haven't past the age of 25.
it means you fully missed an integral part of life most people have gotten some taste of by now
>>16672736
then work out and eat less. not being fat is so easy
I seriously have 0 sympathy for fat people.
>>16669619
I lost mine with a whore at 33. the result was
-marginal improvement of talking with women
-loss of social anxiety issues linked to being virgin
-I started having sexual performance anxiety
-still socially retarded
-still a creep
-still zero girlfriends
in the end, I just get rid of a social stigma.
that in the end wasn't even that big of a deal, since the whore couldn't believe I was a virgin after having sex. so it was worth it? not by much, but yeah.
just go for it
>>16672792
>>16672736
Its all bullshit. being a fatass prevents you from getting laid only because YOU find it a problem.
sure you have less chances, but nothing that some self esteem conditioning can't help.
if you're a creep at heart like me, you can be a 10/10 but women will always avoid you. well except if you're rich.
>>16672792
I hate exercise and love to eat. That's the recipe for fatness. Shit sucks but that's how I am.
>>16672626
You could always call her out for being a dick by sending mixed messages.
>>16672375
that bothers me less than it bothers everyone else apparently
>>16672846
For what purpose? I'm not bitter or angry about it, so there's no resolution in it for me. If I'd call her out on anything it would be the virgin stuff, though that would be hypocritical given the amount of potentially hurtful stuff I bully her over.
>>16672909
Fair enough, I guess.
>>16672746
I'm pretty fat. Fat enough to not be attractive in the least.
>>16672786
I'm not a virgin anon. I also understand this is a bait thread, but at least one of you retards will probably believe this shit so I need to say it anyways.
>>16672786
I bet he's one of those retards that claim asexual as an orientation.
>>16669742
Fuck you get the fuck off /adv/, only by America's logic is there something wrong with you if you are a virgin at 14+, I lost my virginity at 27 to a 25 year old virgin and it was the best experience of my life, sex is something you need to be conservative/traditional about for it to be memorable.
>>16673127
>only in America
>when other countries are more degenerate than we are
>>16673127
>at 14+
I like how you're twisting the entire thread's words.
Nobody said 14+, they said 20-25+ being weird.
I'd say 70% of people in this thread satisfy the diagnostic criteria for either schizoid personality disorder, avoidant personality disorder or autism (autism is not very common though). 20% have social anxiety (the kind who feels panic while interacting with another human) and 10% have some sort of physical problem in the way.
I mention that because it might be the case that you simply don't care about people and wouldn't like sex anyway, which was my case. So you are worrying purely because of social pressure, while you are never going to function like the rest of society.
>>16672697
I lost my virginity to a whore at age 22. Couldn't cum, had to finish it with my hand. She was quite a nice person, the experience was alright.
After that I went to two more whores, managed just fine both times because I learned that if I don't masturbate for two weeks I can cum while having sex. I haven't had sex ever since, and probably won't ever again.
That's the background, what I wanted to say is
>Doesn't really help your social skills
>boost yourself esteem
Indeed it doesn't, but you end up not giving so much of a shit about girls because you don't really need them for anything anymore, they become a bonus. That gives you some more confidence, if you are the kind of person who gets interested in a thread like this on 4chan.
>>16669619
>get better friends
>build up self esteem and learn how to be alone
>search for handful of people to do mutually enjoyed activities with
>acquaintances and respect are much more valuable after the age of 30, I imagine by that age people don't force themselves to be around people they dont like so youll find compatible folks pretty quickly.
>work on diet and hygiene before weight, per se. some women really like husky men but do evaluate self-care as important. if you care about yourself, you dont become insecure when she cares about herself
>consider online dating site
>plenty of younger women attracted to older guys.
>>16669619
Go to church.
>>16673428
Wow, you suck. I mean, I'm glad you think jerking off satisfies you but you are not what people or even anons hope to be.
They want an actual person to connect to.
>>16669804
Post pics pls
>>16669619
My boyfriend at 22 years old was a virgin. I thought it was fun, got to teach him stuff and watch him experience everything for the first time. It was adorable. Any decent girl won't mind
>>16674252
But I am interested in romantic relationships. It's just a lot of work going after girls on dating sites, so I end up leaving all that for later. In practice I'm a recluse and not motivated enough to try to step out
I do feel lonely though
Don't have sex, enjoy your wizard powers
>>16673948
Not him but I'm a 21 virgin who goes to church each week and I think about engaging in premarital sex every day of my life.
>>16674435
>I think about engaging in premarital sex every day of my life.
So does every other living person.
>>16674439
Being married or being incapable of having sex/masturbation must suck then.
If you're cute and/or can carry it off as part of your brooding nature you can be a virgin at 30 and girls won't mind. If you're a virgin at 19 and pathetic they will. It's not about virginity, folks.
>>16669630
I agree with his actually. If you didn't know they were a virgin till yu got to bed and were not rushing things.. It seems absurd to kick them out at that point. Much more likely the virgin is fucking weird or extremely ugly. Sorry to say.
>>16674468
This. Ask yourself, would you be turned off if an otherwise nice/decent girl admitted to being a virgin? Honestly, that would get me even harder knowing I would be her first. Sure there is more pressure of performance on the guy, but most girls will probably think it's kind of cute and won't mind you being a virgin if they already like you.
This does not apply if you're a major sperg or ugly as sin.
>>16669797
because sex is about the traveling, not the destination. You probably rocked her socks off with hours of foreplay and such, right?
I'm a 19 fem year old virgin, how am I supposed to go about this? To be fair I've never been in any relationship all my life but I'm thinking about giving some online dating sites a try..but for some reason it all seems too artificial to me. I'd rather make connections with people in person.
>>16669837
Your mom
>>16669619
>Female responses would be good
Why? Women don't understand themselves or each other for shit.
The way you lose your virginity at 30 is the same as you lose it at 12. Women's preferences (when they're thinking straight) evolve so you might need to target younger women who are less experienced.... but all women respond to the same fucking body language, etc.
So the best thing you can do is work on yourself. This is always the best answer: Work on yourself. Make yourself proud of yourself. Bet you $100 your journey to truly make yourself proud of yourself brings you into the paths of some willing lady friends.
>>16674645
Oh and for reference, one of my ex girlfriends was a virgin at 23. You can get 23 year olds as a 30 year old. Improve yourself. make yourself proud of yourself, I'm telling you.
>>16669619
OK here's what you do.
You go out every fucking night and talk to every girl you possibly can. At first not to get laid, just to learn how to socialise like a badass. I'm not just talking three or four girls I'm talking the whole fucking club.
Start meditating and lifting if you haven't already. Being stuck in your head is very unattractive and prevents you from socialising normally. Everything from your body language to vocal tonality will be off most likely but the more you cut out your internal dialogue the more those things will autocorrect.
Write down a list of 5 non physical traits you want in a woman and screen the girls on those traits as you talk to them.
As you get more comfortable doing this over time then start to playfully touch the girls whilst talking to them. Strong eye contact and smiling pretty much means continue. Bad eye contact, closed body language and unhappy face means stop.
Just go and go and go. Read everything you can about social interaction. You're a robot, you're going to have to treat this as a skill to learn. The only other alternative is another 30 years alone.
I've done this and seen the nerdiest guys have success, it takes a long fucking time and its both amazing and brutal to go through. And you have no other option. Worst comes to worst you obliterate your shyness and learn to have fun and socialise which will fix a lot of your unhappiness.
All this other bullshit won't help. You're a man. You must be the pursuer and learn how to pursue. It is not too late. It is TOO LATE WHEN YOU ARE DEAD
>>16674497
Virginity in girls is highly sought after, you can't compare the two at all.
>>16674748
If you're a village elder from a backwards country.
While it's acceptable for a little longer, girls who have left it that late are either super religious or look like cat ladies.
Well my sister who was a virgin at 21 met a guy who was virgin at 31. Waited til marriage. Got laid. But that might just be a Mormon thing.
>>16669742
Well I don't think it's that strict.
The thing is that if the person themselves feel that they're abnormally old to still be virgins, it adds up to the normal high stress everyone feels when losing their virginity, so it's very possible it'll show.
But one option would be not to mention it. Just practice in advance (go through everything mentally), be prepared with condoms and lube and whatnot (some women can be dry even when they're horny) and maybe get the girl somewhat drunk so they're not as perspective. (Of course you should still ascertain they're into having sex with you while they're sober).
If things get awkward and don't work out, laugh it off. Maybe don't say you've never done it before, just acknowledge that man it's like we're clumsy teenagers again huh or something like that. It's not a problem, a lot of guys can be surprisingly awkward occasionally and then perform fine some other time.
Taking someone's virginity feels like a big burden. I've never done that but I imagine that it'd add a whole new level of pressure and I might hope to avoid the "responsibility".
If you feel nervous, it's not a bad option to get it "out of the way" with a prostitute or maybe even try to find someone to punch your v-card from craigslist or wherever, if it starts weighing on you. Of course if you'd prefer to wait for someone special it's fine too. But the longer you wait, the bigger the pressure and nervousness gets. And again, you might come across a willing sex partner who nevertheless doesn't want to be "the one" to take your virginity.
But it's only as big an issue as you make it
Listen, anyone who wouldn't want to date you cause you *aren't* a virgin is probably someone you don't want to be with cause they value sex a lot and will probably end up cheating on you when they realize that you're getting boring in bed.
That's just one of the reasons I thought of, off the cuff. It's incredibly superficial.
>>16670140
>10-13 American average
Where are you getting those numbers from, your ass?
>According to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, the average age Americans lose their virginities (defined here as vaginal sexual intercourse) is 17.1 for both men and women. The CDC also reports that virgins make up 12.3 percent of females and 14.3 percent of males aged 20 to 24. That number drops below 5 percent for both male and female virgins aged 25 to 29 and goes as low as 0.3 percent for virgins aged 40 to 44.
So the average age is 17, and over one tenth of both sexes are still virgins past 20.
http://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2014/03/on-late-in-life-virginity-loss/284412/
Pay a escort
Take viagra
Buy good condoms
Chill
Fuck her a couple of times.
Never touch a whore ever again.
It's almost as if castrating yourself would be better, just to clear the gene pool.
>>16669619
just fuck prostitues, whats so wrong with them?
fall in love if you find someone you can accept and who accepts you, tada!
>>16669755
Get a male therapist holy shit. As a man, never see a woman therapist. There is absolutely no way she can empathize with you or understand.
>>16676395
>male in the psychology field
Good luck.
>>16669742
Lost mine at 24, it was no big deal for me or her. Just don't worry about it, anons. Srsly.
If you're worried about relationships, then sex really isn't that big of a deal. If you're with someone that you actually care about, they'll be able to look past you being shit in bed at first.
the only time being a virgin really matters is if you're looking for random casual sex. But I mean, you're a virgin. What do you want random casual sex for? It'll be terrible because you won't know what the fuck you're doing.
>>16674401
i like u anon, u sound like me. lawl. how old are you? i'm 28 btw.
>>16669741
can confirm for fuck's sake
>>16674284
>It was adorable.
Adorable just doesn't exude sexual attraction.
>>16676407
Male psychologists exist but are much less common nowadays.
I'm a 27 year old, fat, poor and kissless virgin.
I rarely get to meet new people and have low self confidence. The reason for my inferiority complex isn't being a virgin. It's the fact that I'm still studying and can't sustain myself financially.
This year, I plan to finish my master and start working. But I don't think that I will magically transform into a casanova. It's just that then I might become more confident and have the money to date someone.
I also have friends with inferiority complex, who deal with it differently. One has similar complexes, but drowns in pussy. Maybe I'm just lying to myself to avoid confronting my problems.
25 year old virgin here.
Like the fat guy (no offense to you bro) I also have a problem. A speech impediment to be precise. It's not that bad but there are times when I can clearly see the person in front of me loosing their patience when I try to finish my sentence. I have good friends who are actually get to understand me after spending some time with me.
The problem I have is that it is a really huge turn off for girls. Like, I can speak for few minutes clearly but then a switch turns on and I slurr like a motherfucker.
I am very grateful for the friends I have.. so it kinda negates that
>tfw no gf
>>16677118
>Maybe I'm just lying to myself to avoid confronting my problems.
More than likely.
>One has similar complexes, but drowns in pussy.
They don't have the same complexes (or if they have any at all). Used to know one dude like this, talked about various shit that made it sound like he had complexes and anxiety. Watched him start conversations with strangers and carry on the conversations.
Bump from oblivion.
I have a fetish for corrupting male virgins. My current boyfriend was a virgin before we started dating and I couldn't have been happier. Now he's fine-tuned for all the shit I like
Retarded 30+ virgins ITT:
Ignore 19y/o slags like >>16669742
I am 25 and I don't see any problem with men being virgins. I have dated a couple and taken their virginity. It isn't a big deal, it's actually attractive if you're really a virgin since you haven't put yourself at risk for diseases like most idiots. If anyone says it's weird, they probably have herpes and hpv
>>16669619
Women only dump kissless virgins.
>>16679812
but it's THE CURRENT YEAR
101% of the population has herpes and hpv
the internet told me so!
>>16670836
18-23 is college/university. At that point of my life I had to both work to support myself and go to lectures/do school work. Not the best of situations to get laid.
I lost my virginity just a few months ago with 31, my girlfriend doesn't know that I was a kissless virgin. It was a long nervous road, but afterwards I felt the so relieved. "Sex is so easy!?"
Thruth about sex is: As long as you watched a little bit of porn you know what to do, it's apparently really natural and you can't do anything wrong. Just lick her vagina (find the clit), maybe lick her asshole, you know the drill. Put your dick slowly in her. Hear her moan. The most irritating thing for me was to use a condom, you should train this a little bit while jerking off so you don't get nervous. Don't be scared.
Only problem is, you really need a woman for this. Maybe go to a prostitue, they don't give a fuck.
>>16679812
>If anyone says it's weird, they probably have herpes and hpv
If that helps you sleep at night.
>>16669755
This is how I feel about it as well. Turning 25 in a month so I've resigned myself to the idea that it just will not happen. Guess it doent help that in half Cuban half African American right.(and I suck and keeping a conversation going and most things about women in general.)
I think it's cute, I wouldn't mind if a guy told me that he was.. I'd think it was really special to do it with him. I know a lot of women who think the way I do..
>>16669638
You need to learn the fine art of "standing around and bullshitting".
It's dumb, but a social necessity.
>>16680742
Again missing the point, it's not being a virgin that's the problem. It's the fact you've remained a virgin cos you've failed to pass most of the usual social milestones.
>>16676446
I'm 23
I'm a grill and I've fucked four virgins. I honestly prefer virgins over non-virgins, because they're easier to instruct on what I like, and they don't have weird habits that some ex taught them and they seem to think is universal. The oldest one was 27 I think, and it wasn't weird at all, I felt honoured to be his first, I know he'll always remember me.
>>16680330
>Maybe go to a prostitue, they don't give a fuck.
Nope, they charge for them!
Thank you, thank you. I'll be here all night.
>>16669630
>>16669654
>>16674470
30+ virgin wanting to weigh in
I'm actually not weird at all, and I wouldn't oversell my looks, but I'm not ugly. but I do have crippling low self esteem which is what prevented me for years from even attempting to lose it
And now the fear of >>16669654 is what is holding me back itself.
Since I've started trying to fix my confidence issue, I actually have been approached by women, but I'm too afraid to let them get too close because I assume that even if I say nothing about it, it will be obvious to them how I have no experience, and it will change how they view me
why does anybody need to know that you're a virgin
>>16681484
>I'm actually not weird at all
>I have crippling low self esteem
it might not be weird, but its certainly offputting
The older you are as a virgin, the more questionable it becomes. This holds true for men and women regardless of the /r9k/ rhetoric. Older virgins immediate create an impression of
>low self-esteem
>social retardation
>sexual hangups
>bitterness
>inexperienced
>>16681571
>>low self-esteem
Yup
>>social retardation
I FEEL socially retarded, but at the same time, people tell me that I'm actually held in high esteem socially. Their exact words were "I wish you could see yourself the way others see you, then you wouldn't hate yourself so much." (Whether it's a lie to save my feelings, decide for yourself)
>>sexual hangups
Only in that I feel it won't "come naturally" and that afterwards, the woman will be like "yeah, he's definitely never done this before. Fucking weirdo." And it's not even just the sex, it's simpler things like kissing.
>>bitterness
This is about the only one that doesn't apply to me.
>>inexperienced
Well, naturally.
>>16680678
Where are you located that being that mixture would be a disadvantage? Seems like it would be a good thing to me.
>>16681637
clinginess too
For real though, just buy a prostitute. The benefits are twofold
>you'll find out that sex really isn't that amazing, taking away some of that desperation
>you'll have a basic idea of what to do when you're with a real woman, taking away some of that apprehension
>>16669722
As `helpful` as it might sound he's telling the truth. You don't have to be Chad Thundercock and get with 500+ women but losing your virginity as a guy is just about one of the best things you can do for yourself. If you've been a wizard that that long don't knock a hooker. Women especially can't talk now since that one chick hired a guy ho as a date for her lonely ass
I personally would rather date a virgin than someone who has had 10+ sexual partners. I would be empathetic to someone who has never had sex before, and their anxieties around it.
For me, if someone has had copious amounts of sex partners, that doesn't easily imply that they have particularly valued finding one stable long-term partner (which is what I personally want). Being a virgin *may* indicate that, but not necessarily.
There's also arguments like, the more partners you've had the less satisfied you will be with the next person since you must compare them to everyone else (idk if that's true). Also the less partners you have had, the less chance of divorce statistically.
tldr; If you're a good person with good values then it shouldn't matter (if she also has these good values).
>>16680948
kill urself my man
I haven't had sex since HS, and that was about 10 years ago.
It was mostly casual drunk awkward teen sex, remember very little about it.
10 year break was because of horrible crippling depression. Finally got over it, got a job, going to school, generally getting my life back on track.
Have no real problem socializing or talking to girls, and no real pressure about sex.
That said, I do have a hang up about kissing, that I never really did, or just don't remember. I'm not sure if you can really fuck kissing up, or how quickly you get the hang of it to not look like you have no idea what you are doing.
I haven't really been that worried about it, or trying to do anything, as I have been so busying, I just don't know if I have the time for a relationship, and kinda wanted to finish school first.
>>16683493
>Have no real problem socializing or talking to girls, and no real pressure about sex.
I've never understood how you can do that and not get laid. I don't mean just speaking gets you laid but you haven't got the same hangups as the rest of us here.
I can barely talk to women, and I don't shit to talk about if I could.
>>16684060
Is it me or are there more lipstick lesbians around? Nothing quite like the feeling that even girls are bedding more girls than you.
Are you a Christian?
Being a Christian helps.
>>16684102
Go away, Amber.
>>16684110
Come on anon, it's clearly Christ chan. Trying to help in her own well-meaning yet slightly misguided way. Sorry Christ chan. But Christianity has today turned into nothing but liberal Churchianity that is hypocritical about men and sex, telling young men to be beta sexless virgins, while the women of the church slut it up and as long as they take it up the asshole their still 'pure'. If real traditional Christianity and it's tenets and values were still in practice , OP could have a pretty qt non whore wife and hot Bible endorsed sex, describing his wife like Solomon and his lover did in the Song of Solomon.
Most of this thread is trash but don't think because you are a virgin means you are bad at having sex. Being a virgin has zero standing on how long you will last and how much pleasure you will bring someone. I've been in a relationship for close to 4 years now and if our work hours don't line up by the end of the week or so she can get me to blow my load in minutes. Other times I can go forever as hard as I want, it all has to do with your libido and state of mind at the moment.
I was a virgin until 22 and my first was 19 who had a few one time nights. I never once mentioned I was a virgin and simply had sex with her. It wasn't until later that I confessed that she took my virginity and she wouldn't believe me for months.
Being good at sex is just about having fun and a good state of mind. Confidence in what you're doing will go a long way. Talk about what they really like and be willing to try. Whenever people talk about terrible sex its always about one person not reciprocating, no engagement, or just using someone. Be aware that most guys are hilariously bad at sex, especially the ones who seem like they have a new girl all the time.
>>16684738
You know these most of these guys (including me) lack the balls and conversation material to talk to women, right? Sex or lack of, isn't the real issue.
>>16685294
Some of us talk to girls fine. Sometime it's finer stuff, like, escalating that's a bit more the issue
>>16669818
> But she keeps feeding me the shit that "a woman you like wouldn't care about that!" and this thread just proves thats bullshit. There's no woman in the world who would put up with a virgin my age
Eh, you are both completely right and completely wrong. Lets explain why.
If you go into a relationship with someone telling them straight away or very early 'yeah, im still a virgin'... then yeah, that probably is not going to go well. But that's basically the same for pretty much anything sufficiently unusual.
You don't start your date by announcing you have paranoid schizophrenia to a potential partner. Because then they spent literally the entire rest of their time with you with it poking them in the back of their mind, examining your behavior and generally thinking about it. You become the most unusual thing about yourself. No longer 'Scott, the guy i've gone on dates with' but 'Scott, the paranoid schizophrenic'.
If 'Scott' does or says something unusual. Its not because its just how he is. Its because hes got schizophrenia. He's not normal. And he gets dumped.
If on the other hand you found a girl, got to know her pretty well, enjoyed one another's company AND THEN told her you were still a virgin (or have paranoid schizophrenia), then yeah. Chances are pretty good she isn't gonna give a fuck. Because at that point you've proved your 'normal' and she already likes you.
Basically, if a woman already likes you it's really unlikely that she's going to dump you just because you are a virgin. She's more likely to be curious as to why than dismissive of you.
The issue is that getting to that point without revealing you're a virgin is likely to be very difficult, especially as casual sex has gotten more and more common as a precursor to 'real' relationships.
>>16685321
If you can, then how have things not 'escalated' organically?
Are you as boring as the ones who can't talk anyway?
>>16685362
>it's really unlikely that she's going to dump you just because you are a virgin
No it's not. Once women learn this fact, and they will learn it without you telling them as there are giveaway signs. She will feel like it takes too long to educate you how shit works, and she will friend zone you.
Women want assertive guys that knows what they are doing, this includes stuff in the bedroom. They don't want to tell you how to do things, what works, etc. I'm not saying there aren't women out there that would want to do this, but they are few and far between.
Here is where there is a huge difference between the sexes. Because many men dream of finding a totally innocent girl that they can "corrupt" and educate into a total slut, but for women it will be a total waste of time as they are usually a passive part that wants to be ordered around when it comes to sex.
>>16685526
>Because many men dream of finding a totally innocent girl that they can "corrupt"
You mean men with the madonna/whore complex but you're right about having to guide the inexperienced dude being something people don't really want to do.
