The Tiger I was the best tank of the Second World War.
>>143904772
Eighty-Eightus Wheraboous Overratus
>>143904883
Name a better tank, if you're so great.
>>143904975
50 shermans
>>143904975
Tiger II. Pershing. Panther. IS series, 85 or 122.
>>143904883
>>143904772
Great job starting the thread with such obvious bait
Ranking tanks makes as much sense as ranking cars.
Tiger I had fantastic firepower for its time, but was overengineered and expensive to produce.
>>143905062
>Tiger II
>Panther
Both soundly defeated by Gen. Logistics.
Wehrmaboos are for bullying
>>143905014
Saying 50 tanks is better than 1 heavy tank doesn't say much, Kay.
>>143904975
Well even the Pershing, which was basically an American copy, was better. It's armour was sloped so it had better protection than the Tiger, a gyrostablized gun so it could fire on the move, and wet ammo storage so the ammunition wouldn't blow up when hit, nearly eliminating the chance that the tank would burn out; thus making it recoverable if knocked out (though only 2 ever were). It also had a bunch of crew-comforts like spring-loaded hatches that were easy to quickly open and close, which would have been considered superfulous on a German or Russian tank.
The Centurion was the best tank design of the war, but it never saw action in WW2. The first tanks were issued right after the Nazis surrendered and there was no opportunity to send them to fight the Japanese before they surrendered.
The Tiger was a novelty, but it wasn't actually THAT great. It's only because no one had the weapons on hand to deal with it AT FIRST that it got its reputation; however, when the Sherman was upgraded with a 76mm gun (for the 17lber for the Brits) and the IS2 came into service, it no longer had significant advantages beyond still having a very good gun (and that Russian tank crews weren't properly trained or utilized intelligently). People forget a Sherman with a 76mm gun could punch through the front armour of a Tiger.
ich liebe dich maho
>>143905174
Well, SIXTY then.
>>143905739
Yeah, I guess that makes it look better.For the Tiger
>>143904975
One late war sherman
>>143905112
Were the Tiger Is more reliable than the Tiger II?
>>143905749
SIXTY TIGER.
You're school is currently dominating a rival school when suddenly they bring out pic related as their trump card. What do you do?
>>143904772
It's T34-85.
>>143905790
Initially. The Tiger II had most of its problems fixed near the end of the war with the Henschel version, making it almost or even more reliable than the Tiger I.
>>143905844
>muh t34 no radio 85
>>143905964
T-34-85s did have radios.
>>143906124
>1944
>Finally had radios
Good for you, Ivan.
>>143905836
Hand Yukari the Stinger.
>>143905174
Well, theoretically, if there was a country that could field 50 tanks for the same % of GDP as the other country's one heavy tank, yes it does.
Yeah, they should have built more than one.
Back at Oarai High School, I could drive a tank, I was in charge of million dollar equipment, back here I can't even hold a job scooping sweet potato ice cream!
>>143904975
Anything that didn't break down all the time and take forever to repair.
The tanks are innocent! They're just trying their best!
>>143906310
Reminds me of the "Ideal Garupan Game" they were talking about several threads ago.
>Real time tank combat with sports management, dating sim, and stealth elements
>Select a major or minor school from the series or create your own team.
>Combat: Starts of with team commander view, an RTS screen where you could give tanks orders, and an ability to manually control a tank in first/third person.
>Management: Between matches, manage your team, their skills, and their tanks. Purchase and research more tanks (Like grinding but not shit like WoT and WT's). Play mock matches with other schools for experience.
>Dating sim: Go out and socialise with the Garupans. Focusing on some characters give them combat bonuses. No yuri pls.
>Stealth: For Ooarai, before the match, go Solid Snake as Yukari. Acquire the enemy tank lineup, their battle plans, and all sorts of other strategies. Failure results in a slight change to the enemy lineup and strategy and a hentai CG. Probably reduced loading time as well.
>>143906673
I want to double penetrate her with a russian!
>>143906673
I want to put my penis in her hair
>>143906702
Lies, I remember talking about that and
>No yuri pls
was not on the cards.
Yukari's HCGs are not allowed to be anything else damn you.
STAR PERFORMER HAS ARRIVED
>>143906758
What's your tankfu?
>>143906812
Chaffee
>>143905361
>Pershing
Well, if you want to move around at WW1 speeds, sure.
>>143906702
>All yuri pls.
Fixed that for you friend.
>>143906888
It had similar maneuverability to a Panther in Europe. The weak engine/transmission didn't become a problem until the very hilly terrain in Korea. All they did then was slap a better transmission and engine in it and call it the M46.
Fraud
>>143907126
>>143907237
Tumblr tier art there anon
>>143907262
At least you were able to push the submit button.
Rewatching Girls und Panzer and noticed my files are dual audio. This fucking dub gives me cancer, is there anyone who even likes it? Everyone sounds like a southern hick valley girl.
>>143905065
>Maho is mad.
Prepare yourself, Shizuka.
>>143907126
its kay's fault
>>143907414
>Not putting jp as default
Fix your settings, newfriend.
>>143907471
What is thisand why is all of the art of the GuP manga stuff so poor with the exception of MLLSD?
>>143905836
Win.
Because the other school instantly gets disqualified.
Erika x Katyusha is a better ship than Kay x Darjeeling.
>>143907262
>newfag not familiar with based 70s anime designs
>>143907414
I don't think anyone watches the dub
>>143906812
CV or Te-Ke. Tankettes are the most adorable.
>>143907494
It is, I just decided to switch it to English out of curiosity.
>>143907362
What food is that?
>>143907513
But this is even better
>>143907550
Yukari's only doing it for intel though.
>>143906702
> Failure results in a slight change to the enemy lineup and strategy and a hentai CG.
Failure at Kuromorimine results in a "Erika builts model kits" cut scene and a severe morale malus for Yukari.
>>143907597
Nothing wrong with Erika's model building!
>>143906840
I want to force my 105 into loader chan's 76mm
>>143907677
But that will overpenetrate!
>>143907691
Look at that beautiful frontal hull armor
>>143907693
She can handle it
>>143907745
How can an entire team be built for sex?
>>143907857
The Panther is quite sexy with its nicely sloped 80mm, thin side armour of 40mm, allowing it to be lighter, and a modest 40mm rear armour.
But Saori is a Tiger. Sure, 102mm of frontal armour but 80mm sides? It even drinks fuel like it's beer!
>>143904772
Yes, all 5 of them.
>>143908243
>not the chihas
>>143907067
>it had similar maneuverability to a Panther
What about, no.
A Panther's off-road speed was about TWICE of that of a Pershing.
It wasn't until Korea that they gave them a decent engine.
But what am I doing arguing with you? Clearly you'll ignore that and call me wehrboo because I just said that a German tank that YOU mentioned had better mobility than the Pershing (a than I happen to like) because you're convinced it HAS to be superior in everything. So let's move to the part where we stop posting things before the thread blows up, shall we?
https://youtu.be/ory1HWsDzzE
More Anzu appreciation.
>>143907927
Come on anon don't make me fap again posting things like this is just unfair.
>>143907414
Your fault for downloading a shitty release. I bet it doesn't even include teh 5.5 and 10.5 episodes.
That's meant to helpfully inform you that you should check it and download them if needed, even if it's written in the /a/-standard "you're taste a shit" tone
>>143907503
An officalfanficspinoff made by Takeshi Nogami (who excells at drawing tanks, even if he often gets the detaisl hilariously wrong, but sucks at making faces)hey, you all know that's true, let's not start a flamewar about thatcalled Ribbon Warrior
>>143908243
Girls and Spacecraft when
>>143907597
THISalso failure at Saunders results in a morale INCREASE and Kai willingly leaking every drop of info
>>143904772
Sherman Firefly – This WWII British tank was a variant of the US Sherman tank. The British armed the tank with their powerful anti-tank gun – the British 17 pounder. The Firefly was originally to be used in the interim until newer designed British tanks were ready for service.
After a few of its original flaws were corrected, the tank went into production and its value was soon recognized as it was the only British tank with the capacity to defeat both the Panther and the Tiger tanks when engaged within standard combat ranges. As a result, the German’s instructed their tanks and their anti-tank gun crews to attack the Sherman Fireflies first.
>visit Japan
>buy movie anthology
>open
>lewd print falls out in public
Fucking hell. I could've supplied the nation with all my spaghetti.
>2016
>Only now watching GuP
Slightly disappointed that Miho having PTSD wasn't actually a thing.
>>143908570
Go buy another one! It's not too late!
>>143908266
Next he'll go on about "muh reliability" citing the British army test. Unfortunately, people forget that those tanks were assembled from memory by a punch of POWs using left-over parts found in a bombed-out factory. Worst of all, the test drivers were scots.
The Swedes, however, adored the machines and their reports were absolutely glowing.
t. waffeboo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JzjdwJfe40M
>>143908598
>Swedes make a fruitful study of tanks
>Produces a casemate MBT.
>>143908631
You know Swedes are biologically incapable of making sound decisions. We could have had this.
Reminder check out best tank/war movie
Kelly's Heroes
>Actas closes down due to debt
>Bandai gives the project to SHAFT
>Akiyuki Shinbo makes an OVA
>Calls it Momogatari
>Renowned internet reviewers hail it as a monsterpiece of intellectual proportions
>Gives more money to Oarai than the old project used to give.
Can't wait.
>>143908266
That was my first comment in the thread. No need to be an ass and assume things.
>>143908589
Well it was, but FRIENDSHIP overpowered it pretty easily.
>>143908598
Here's a video from the Swedish defense were they praise the Panthers terrain driving compared to an m/42, Firefly and Churchill.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=SmXEly5_u38
>>143908631
>>143908658
Don't talk shit about Strv 103.
>>143908761
Are you a new one? Your style is different from Monogatarifag.
Girls und Panzer der Film had a award in japan.
http://www.sf-fan.gr.jp/awards/2016result.html
>>143904975
Later T-34 models
>>143908596
Why another one?
I need to save cash for Akihabara.
Does anyone know what stores should have the two complete art books?
just curious, did anyone actually get this reference without having to look it up? (I didn't)
>>143908570
Oh man
I'm just imagining it
Falling on the dirty floor is bad enough, someone stepping on it would have been painful as hell
I completely understand how you feel.
>>143908912
Nope.
I need to google "Mifune" + "Ferris Wheel" to find what it refer to.
>>143908912
I figured it was a 1941 reference but I haven't seen it yet.
>>143908912
Googled it up
Found a japanese article about it
>>143908349
nice samefagging
Alright, i have reworking Comic Anthology Chapter 4 based of the feedback from Gangsta_Cromwell, G_Z and one kind Anon.
http://www.mediafire.com/download/77h777ghqfd6cso/GuP_Anthology_Manga_Vol01Chapter04_%28v2%29.zip
Only a baka deals in absolutes.
>>143909119
That's an absolute, you fucking baka!
>>143908811
That's the same one I posted but with subtitles, thank you for that. Additionally, wartime German records show that the panther had similar reliability to the Stug and panzer 4. The Swede's testing panther lasted them until 1961.
Meanwhile, in slavland
"Soviet tests on newly built T-34’s showed that in April 1943 only 10.1% could complete a 330km trial and in June ’43 this went down to 7.7%."
"The T-34 tested at the Aberdeen centre was built at the best factory using materials of superior quality but its engine stopped working after 72.5 hours. This was not due to American interference as there was a Soviet mechanic (engineer Matveev) charged with maintaining it. Still it was much better than the standard tanks since it covered a distance of 343km. According to the head of the Armored Directorate of the Red Army N.Fedorenko, the average mileage of the T-34 to overhaul during the war, did not exceed 200 kilometers. This was considered adequate since the T-34’s service life at the front was considerably less. For example in 1942 only 66km. In that sense the T-34 was indeed ‘reliable’ because it was destroyed before it had a chance to break down on its own! "
>>143908912
I never get the references I wish there was a garupan reference guide.
German tanks are good until they sink in mud.
Soviet tanks are good until they start their engines.
>>143909209
You mean to say that German tanks are good until they run out of gas and their crews firebomb them.
Does Darjeeling have a dog at home?
If Maginot tanks can glance so well, why didn't everyone just copy that design with superior firepower?
>>143909242
What do you mean we're out of gas?
The enemy has plenty!
>>143909276
She has a Rosehip.
>>143909277
Old fashioned tracks and expensive production costs.
The Reason why the B1 fared so well because German tank guns were shit.
>>143908988
Yeah, that's it.
>>143908939
Same. I considered changing it to something more recognizable (like the Ayrton Senna thing with the Tiger), but this one seemed like it was probably around as obscure in Japan as it is in English (if not moreso; it's a Spielberg movie!)
Related: the TL and I spent quite a while going back and forth over how to handle Fukuda's line about how she felt compelled to attack after Nishi fell in the first battle. I was concerned that "save face" felt stilted, and that the imperial-Japan-style social pressures wouldn't come across well for viewers who didn't already understand them.
Ultimately, I ended up changing a couple lines in that area to try to make them sound _less_ natural in English, in an attempt to make it clear that the concept being referenced is uniquely Japanese. Did it work?
Also, regarding the line about the rules limiting the engines, but not the traction motors: prior to asking the TL for clarification on the original version there, I had no idea that the Tiger had a combined combustion-electric transmission similar to those used in a lot of modern trains. Each track has a gas-powered generator, which powers an electric traction motor. The rules set limits on the output of the engines, but not on the actual traction motors, so they could disable the limiters on that end without breaking the rules (at the cost of putting too much strain on the generators). Did that seem clear?
>>143909281
>>143909436
Anyone who knows the difference between an engine and a motor would understand.
Those who don't will learn something new.
>>143909334
So lucky.
>>143908417
but is it underpowered in d20?
>>143909498
I still don't really get it since that distinction doesn't exist in my native language
>>143904975
Sherman firefly
>>143908761
Fuck you and kill yourself.
>>143909242
>gas
If the Glorianas were from Britain, where would they be from?
>>143909847
The south.
>>143909842
Raffste dat net? Der hat kei' Sprit mehr
So, remind me what the stance with prototype that only have wooden mockup ready?
Because Maginot fielding a Renault G1 would be quite a boost on their firepower, with that 75mm gun.
>>143907503
Little army 1&2 have great artwork
>>143909847
None of them are seen roling cigarettes and drinking tizer so we can assume they are all from the south
>>143909847
Cotsworlds.
Post your own schools and their lineups
>Greif Girls' Academy
>>143910108
Why are they fielding a soft topped truck?
>>143910211
B-But that's not a truck
>>143909436
(found what [AK-Submarines] did for these lines)
>Dialogue: 0,0:16:43.24,0:16:45.48,Default,,0,0,0,,If this continues, it will just be shameful!
>Dialogue: 0,0:16:45.52,0:16:48.68,Default,,0,0,0,,It'll be shameful if we're defeated after going so far!
…I guess if you go word-for-word literal on the first line, you end up with something like that…
>Dialogue: 0,1:47:53.85,1:47:55.20,Default,,0,0,0,,There are Federation regulations about the engine...
>Dialogue: 0,1:47:55.47,1:47:57.11,Default,,0,0,0,,But nobody said anything about the motor!
Not bad, but there's a research failure here (the Porsche Tiger has 2 generators and 2 motors; these should be plural).
>Dialogue: 0,1:48:06.06,1:48:08.04,Default,,0,0,0,,Go, Supersonic Prince!
I guess it's not a terrible translation of 音速の貴公子, but precisely zero english-speaking viewers will get this and it's ungoogleable. Admittedly, I spent quite a while trying to come up with a good way to handle this; almost just used "Ayrton Senna" (the actual reference being made here), but it felt super awkward.
Others:
>Dialogue: 0,1:23:18.14,1:23:20.66,Default,,0,0,0,,I'll make you potato pasta afterwards.
>potato pasta
>Dialogue: 0,1:32:11.63,1:32:12.94,Default,,0,0,0,,"Retreating Attack"!
I mean, it's not _wrong_, but I'll take "Retrograde advance!" any day.
>Dialogue: 0,1:23:14.11,1:23:15.78,Default,,0,0,0,,Chovy, hurry up and fix the tracks!
She's asking Anchovy to run her tracks despite being upside down; there's no "fixing" here afaik.
>Dialogue: 0,0:19:29.92,0:19:32.26,Default,,0,0,0,,"CV-33 Turn"! Other name: "Napoli-turn"!
>Other name:
Excellent. Definitely how an english speaker would phrase that.
>>143909281
>>143910108
Salisbury academy.
Uniform is short shorts.
Tank roster consists of T17 Staghounds. Some with 37mms, some with six pounders and a Firefly.
By the way, where are the V4444 subs uploaded? I couldn't find them on Nyaa.
>>143910108
>that truck
WAR CRIMES
>>143910320
On the /ak/ mega
>>143909847
>Darjeeling - England
>Rosehip - Northern Ireland
>Assam - England
>Orange Pekoe - Scotland
>Rukuriri - Wales
>>143910397
It's only a war crime if you paint a red cross on it.
>>143910439
Still can't find it. I tried searching for the /ak/ repository, but I got no hits.
>>143910108
Kurosawa Agricultural Academyinsert Magnificent Seven/Seven Samurai here
>>143910236
what do you mean, not a truck?
>>143910664
Not sure which one you're on but it's on mine:
https://mega.nz/#F!JYR2nbbB!LbrNvxCFbUgyHn7KcAvtSQ!5IQkSaLA
>>143910725
Ah, thanks. I looked for it on the /ak/ wiki.
>>143910725
Different anon here, i got syntax error when trying to using it, any idea how to make it work?
>>143910818
There's a fucked up line that has an equals mark in it. It's like 52something. (528?)
Just open it in an editor and delete the line. It's a tl-note.
>>143910847
>Just open it in an editor and delete the line. It's a tl-note.
complete noob here, what editor? Wordpad?
>>143906124
>>143906174
Even T-34-76 had a radio, fucktard.
>>143910886
I'd recommend one that shows line numbers (ie Notepad++)
>>143911003
The T-34/85 was the first tank to have been mass-produced with a radio, and that was in 1944. Even then, radios still weren't widespread and older units were rarely updated.
>>143911018
Ah, i think i find the problematic line.
It working now.
Thanks for info.
Is there any truth to the rumor that Italian tanks had shells filled with sawdust instead of explosives?
>>143911003
For one, many 76s did not.
Secondly all I said was "T-34-85s did have raidos." which is not saying 76s didn't.
>high resolution fake Mako upskirt can't be found
This is some bullshit.
>>143911189
Why would they?
>>143911234
>Italians
>>143911189
>Forgotten Hope
Ah, good old days. Surprised to see anyone remembering that god-tier game(mode) beside me
>>143911234
Because they're italians
>>143904772
That is not even the best German tank of the Second World War.
>>143911417
Panther is fine tank but the box-ish shape of Tiger I has a magical appeal to those with a true aesthetic sense of military design
>>143911495
And its flat armor appeals to those that desire to shoot it.
>>143910108
>M10 Tank Destryer
But it's not M10. It's Panther.
>>143911073
There are was 71-ТК-3 on earlier models of T-34. Only Commander tanks.
In 1943 9-РМ radio set was introduced. Commander tanks + slight number of others.
It's was not a problem with T-34/76 or improvement in construction T-34-85. It's was problem with industry that was not able produce enough radio sets.
GuP 40k when?
Senshado on other planets and in space!
>>143911565
>SCHOOL GIRLS Panties
They aren't even trying anymore, are they?
>>143911562
>But it's not M10. It's Panther.
What are you talking about, Kamerad? It is an authentic M10!
>>143911636
yup, its a Panther
>>143908631
Make a study, pick the Centurion, get told by the British that they probably won't have any to sell before 1958, look into building domestically while trying out the AMX13, decide to go French but before the deal is made the British notice they have a massive trade imbalance and what do you know it's only 1952 but we've got a bunch of spare Centurions if you're interested?
Buy those, and build a bunch of tank destroyers domestically because fucking hell the Russians got a lot of tanks.
>>143911636
>>143911355
I wish they had north american servers like PR its fucking awful playing in yurop
>>143911756
Do they use an AP shell as a dildo in there
>>143911234
Sounds like training rounds. But if you're out of live ammo it might be that or white flag.
>>143911355They are still updating fh2 anon.
>>143911355
Indeed, good old days, that was really a good game.
Which tank is cuter, hetzer or matilda?
>>143912139
PzII
>>143911653
No, you are clearly mistaken.
Look, it even has that white star on it that these US people use!
>>143912176
trolling
>>143912139
Hetzer, of course
Don't mind the filename, it's allied propaganda.
Why can't cute girls ride on this tank?
>>143912268
>>143912292
because they already exhausted selling their body to fund this tank development.
>>143912268
>>143912292
MBT-70, Ugliest of the tanks
Reminder that GuP is science-fiction.
https://twitter.com/garupan/status/751701972978241536
>>143912139
Hetzer is mischievously cute.
In my native tounge, to hetz is to provoke or tease.
The way turtle team uses it fits the name perfectly.
>>143904772
I would say the panzer IV was the best. Tigers like all heavy tanks are too unreliable.
>>143912379
Of course it is.
It's a sci-fi underdog sports story.
>>143909437
Do you have tue original Africa image?
>>143912398
though technically its official name is jagdpanzer 38t, some source says 'Hetzer' moniker never actually used by troops itself and the name was intended for E10 project.
Well, Hetzer is easier to say than Jagdpanzer 38t anyway.
>>143912323
That's the KV-2, hell even people who like it claim it's ugliness is what gives it 'charm'.
>>143912494
Is just too big, but not THAT ugly
>>143912494
When you see kv-2 you cant help but hear soviet anthem playing
Can we have a series based entirely on St Gloriana?
>>143912241
You're just saying that because all m10s you saw until now were fake, that however is legit
In
>>143912176
You can clearly see the turret that was put in to make it look like a panther in emergency situations, so I can understand the confusion
>>143912537
Agree.
Now KV-2 with 107mm ZIS, thats ugly.
>>143912494
I have soft spot for ugly tanks
>>143912546
>When you see kv-2
Saw it in Moscow, this thing is really big. But T-35 is FUCKIG BIG.
>>143912600
Better with the 1939 turret and the Derp-gun
>>143912552
That one has the Panther treads and suspension, dont fuck me.
>>143912488
Hetzer sounds cute
>>143912684
>Landship
Name a better character
Pro tip
You can't
>>143912719
>>143912719
>>143912719
That one has the Panther treads and suspension
Is it so rare to use enemy parts for repairing, Kamerad? You are clearly just being paranoid!
See here? Clearly an Amerikaner soldier!
>>143912810
>Clearly
>>143912795
Of course not, because every GuP character is best character.
With the exception of MEXT guy, of course.
Failed
>>143912795
Reizei Mako
But seriously, this is must be the ugliest tank ever designed along every Chrysler concept tanks.
>>143912872
What is that?
>>143912906
Rly, WTF
>>143912906
Is that tank pregnant? I hope someone takes responsibility.
>>143912379
>>143912442
This too is also nominated as Sci-Fi.And I like it.
>>143912940
and this one is TV-8 project.
It supposed to be amphibious too.
>>143912906
>internal arrangement of the vehicle can be seen
LEWD
>>143912989
You sick fuck
Getting turned on my guro
>>143912988
I actually knew about the TV-8, but...that? Never seen it
>>143913023
I think its more like those internal shots you see in h-manga and doujin.
>>143912906
>that design
Erika, have you been building models again?
>>143906611
That would be the M4 Shermans. Advanced German tanks broke down all the fucking time and Soviets had manufacturing problems even though T-34 was the best design.
>>143913040
Wishful thinking.
You asked for it.
>>143913072
t. Americunt
>>143912988
No, its not Red Alert concept art, some real engineers really considering this design.
>>143913106
>>143912988
>>143912906
Some of the reasons why I love the '50s
>>143913075
DELET THIS
>>143913072
Also the sherman was a work horse, and could do almost any roll needed of a vehicle.
>>143913106
The design isnt bad, it could probably be worked to have better depression, and not be so fucking huge.
But the round turret that encompasses the entire top of the tank is not a bad idea for the time.
It looks like it would be way too heavy though.
>>143913075
>don't look
>it's embarrassing
>my most private parts exposed
>why am I getting aroused?
What's /ak/'s primary tank and why is it the Pz68?
>German steel
>Soviet design
>>143912547
I'd be happy with just an ova
Preferably with Rosehip as the star
Random GuP dump
>>143913075
>>143913261
With a litlle bit of War Thunder
>>143913165
Well, the reason they doesn't pursue this design further is because turned out quad track arrangement is not really efficient.
>>143912912
Best Digimon movie.
Was mini-pekoe just a dream?
>>143913099
>>143913360
unfortunately.
>>143908570
What was the lewd print /a/non?
>>143908589
I only began watching GuP in early 2016, purely because it was the first anime I've wathed in over a decade.I watched the dub first, and fuck you, I liked the dub.
>>143913469
>I watched the dub first, and fuck you, I liked the dub.
Fuck yourself for that shit taste.
>>143911216
We could always make a new one.