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I totally forgot about Querele
>>143878108
Why did they put a secondary character on the cover of this magazine?
>>143878194
don't be mean to Freyja, she's my waifu.
>>143878108
And I totally forgot about Mirage. Has she done anything in the show yet?
>>143878251
There's no one who would even pretend Freyja isn't the main female character
>>143878301
Oh I know, I just am tired of dicks putting Mirage down.
>>143878395
I think the show is doing enough of that on it's own. But there's still an entire half of the show left
>Messer above Hayate
so mirage has pulled far ahead in the hayatebowl now, right?
>>143878724
The what?
Oh you mean the blue-hair who doesn't think about the girls in any romantic fashion?
>>143878724
I don't even have the heart to put down hopefull miragefags anymore.
>>143878522
Can someone translate the names and their positions. How high was Reina?
>>143878522
You can't say they aren't doing a good job with Freyja when she keeps typing polls like this
>>143878522
All it took was two episodes and Kaname's popularity blew up. Mikumo remains consistently high even though her character is still shinpi
>>143878354
I hope people are buying the CD's even though it's been leaked. Are the high quality versions of the songs out yet? Without the glitches?
>>143879176
Reina's 8, lowest ranked of the walkure
>>143879301
It's done some 50-60k sales so far?
>>143879311
How well did the other Walkure members do? Are they all above Mirage?
I don't quite remember Freyja's Hoinas being quite so Gorigori
>>143878522
1. Freyja
2. Kaname
3. Mikumo
4. Mirage
5. Messer
6. Hayate
7. Makina
8. Reina
9. Keith
10. Heinz
>>143879220
Not even surprised really. I think Kaname became like Klan in terms of secondary character popularity. Heck KanaMess still gets fanart
>>143879613
>KanaMess
It's MesaKana. Learn the difference, it could save your life.
>halfway through series
>mirage is still NOT relevant
Is kawamori planning something big behind the scenes or is he baiting us to think he is while he's not?
Any wing bro's around?
>People arguing who will win, Mirage or Freyja.
>Last episode it's revealed that Hayate has been dating Mikumo since episode 3.
>>143880200
>The second half of the series spans several months
>By the end, Mikumo is looking a little rounder
>Reveals she's pregnant
>The rest of the cast asks who the father is
>She just smiles and glances at Hayate
>>143878522
>Freyja is number one
Nuke the fuckers one more time
>>143880200
>Mikumo
>Able to comprehend human relationships
>>143880593
Who else deserves to be number one? Reina?
>>143880767
Mikumo's my personal number 2, but I wouldn't feel right robbing Kaname of the hard earned number 2 spot.
>>143879528
DeCulture!
>>143880767
Reina is kawaii~
>>143880960
She's chiku chiku
>>143880898
I think Mikumo is everyone's second favorite and due to shipping wars it's always Freyja/Mikumo and Mirage/Mikumo. Kaname did deserve this second spot though, it won't last though.
>>143880960
Reina is Cassim levels of literal who.
>>143881040
Between Makina and Reina, I remember Reina more
>>143881255
They're pretty much a set anyway
>>143878194
Better?
>>143881255
No way, gigantic titties are more memorable.
>>143878522
When was this survey taken?
>>143881439
W-why is she fondling her rune in public?!
>>143878522
>mirage above hayate or messer
Waifufags should be killed.
>>143878354
Those outfits are shit. Why do they dressed the girls like a cheap hello project group?
>>143881514
Because she's a fucking slut.
Death of a character? Doesn't stop this ship
>>143881545
I know, right? They look like some shitty anime convention newbie group.
>>143881514
She's teasing Hayate who is taking the picture.
Idk what I'd do if we get the twist of all endings and Mirage wins hayatebowl. Probably try to drown myself in the bathtub until I realize it's not deep enough.
> the harem end version. Both Minmay and Misa agreed to live with Hikaru as a big family. They even had babies at the same time, it so fucking cute ;-;
Official harem end when?
>>143881764
Nips will burn the studio down if their OTP isn't canon in Macross.
Minmay isn't longer a 'loser' either, despite Kawamori's attempts to keep Hikaru's taint away from her. See >>143881899
He even favors his child with Minmay.
>>143881899
>Hikaru is the housewife
Finally he learned his place after all those sexists comments. It only needed Minmay to kick him into a curb.
Scan when?
>>143881255
This. People downplay Reina because of her short hair. However she has more character depth and substance than Makina.
>>143878194
She's not even on the front. She's on the back.
>>143882321
Mikumo has the most well-balanced body of the female cast in Delta.
>>143882321
Jesus Christ, Mikumo.
>Her tits falling out of her swimsuit
>Her ass falling out of her swimsuit
>Twintails
>That skindentation
>Maximum puffy
>>143882321
Mikumo literally tops all of Sheryl's slutty official art, with just one elegantly sexy swimsuit pic.
>>143881573
It never stops.
>>143882397
But Makina's tiddies...
>>143882614
The elevens need to learn to let go. Also KanaMesser fans.
>>143882589
Elegant sums her up pretty well. Even when she's showing up naked for no reason, she still excudes class
>>143882578
They really put all their efforts into Mikumo for this picture.
>>143882614
How salty will KanaMessah fans be when Arad wins the Kanamebowl?
>>143882693
>>143882775
It's MesaKana REEEEEEE
>>143881764
At the current moment, it wouldn't make any sense
>>143882724
That's probably the biggest identifier of Mikumo, apart from her shinpiness. It's also what causes the big drift in her personality from being a Sheryl 2.0
Mikumo is just so damn elegant, and graceful.
>>143882775
Arad has one trait that even japanese notice it: no one notices what he does even when he is shown doing something.
>>143882849
That doesn't roll off the tongue as Kaname + Messah = KanaMessah.You autist...
>>143882974
Japanese call it MessaKana.
>>143882321
Newtype Article
>>143883297
its been deliberately blurred out. I can't yomu that
Foreshadow Hayate and Freija are half siblings
>>143883482
Yeah because windermere is the only place it snows.
>>143883297
Is that a streetlight? for what?
I didn't see any vehicles on Ragna
>>143883013
Fuck the elevens, this is America.
>>143883482
More like Hayate's dad was in the unit that nuked Windermere
>>143879349
1. Freyja
2. Kaname
3. Mikumo
4. Mirage
5. Messer
6. Hayate
7. Sugartits
8. DOUBLE HACKING
9. Keith
10. Heinz
>>143883953
More like Hayate's dad was in one of the units that were blown up by the nuke since its confirmed a lot of nuns died in it.
Freyja will win hayatebowl bc hayate already wears Freyja's colors (orange for her folds and green for her eyes) on his wristbands.
>LOGIC
>>143884008
Will he be like Bruce Willis in Armageddon?
>>143882321
I don't even get how shinpi's swimsuit works
>>143884373
It defies the laws of physics thanks to Mikumo's hot bod
>>143884373
It's just body paint
Giraffe Blues is such a sad song. How do you translate it though? Is it literally giraffe blues or I feel your blues?
>>143884008
Nah Hayate's dad is way too mysterous to be just a simple NUNS grunt at this stage - probably some sort of secret agent involved in all of the shenanigans during the war.
>>143882321
DAT FANG
>>143884706
Musical CATS
>>143884373
It's rathermysterious...
>>143884646
It's Giraffe Blues in full romanji
>>143884706
Kanyame kawaii~
I just hope to god that is Lady M is Mylene we get to see Guvava.
>>143884648
>yfw he was matchmaking Freyja and Hayate
>>143879528
So it begins!
>>143885215
Face = sheerdelight
>>143884646
The songs in Delta also apply to the show. A lot of people might mistake Giraffe Blues as a song about Freyja and Hayate, however it's Freyja trying to reach out to Mikumo. This is why it's a duet. Even during the end of the song, they both sing in english "I know your blues." It hard to make out because it engrish.
Just observe the lyrics of the song, and realize what one is saying to the other ;_;
http://suisei.kokidokom.net/2016/06/29/walkure-giraffe-blues-lyrics-translation/
Both Freyja and Mikumo will share a tragic end together at the end of the series.
Which Aerial Knight will definitely live ?
>>143885375
>That edit
Oh god, that doesn't work at all
>>143885407
Keith, Bogue and Mastah.
>>143885477
Nah Mastah will die, either by pulling a heroic sacrifice to save his students or due to old age.
Agree with Keith and Bogue though.
>>143885477
>Mastah
Hahahaha no. No Hermann's death will be like the Messer for their group
>>143885711
I think Keith being comatose is the Messer for their group right now.
But I agree Herman is going to die sooner or later, probably protecting the younger knights.
Bogue gets buffed when Freyja sings a Windermerean original song
>>143885407
Keith's already had a near miss and is needed to take part in windy power/leadership struggles, so he's fine.
All the VA's are super stanning Bogue so he'll probably live a decent while too.
Mastah is the aging mentor so therefore he's doomed.
Everyone else is fair game - though Cassim will bite it before the twins because they have merch and he doesn't.
>>143885786
Things that will never happen?
>>143880767
HELL YEAH!!
>>143885905
Why is Kaname so beautiful?
>>143885407
Keith and Heinz.
Bogue.
Twins, one at least.
>>143883697
The locations described just happen to coincide with three of the major planets we've seen so far:
Desert = Al-Shahal
Ocean = Ragna
Snow = Windermere
It's possible it's a red herring, but coupled with the fold quartz, it's unlikely this is coincidence, since nothing in anime is coincidence.
>>143883297
>dat face
Why would they pick such shitty frame?
Hello?
>>143885905
It's time to end this. New favorite Walkure poll with a twist. Time to get rid of the two heavy hitters.
http://www.strawpoll.me/10700851
>>143886497
No, yeah I get. I'm just so sick of everyone saying Hayate's dad spawned his seed all over the place and everyone is magically Hayate's sibling.
Well, I think it's definitely tied together. In episode 10 Ernest names Ragna and Alshahal. And then Arad says "Alshahal... Hayate and Freyja were both there. It seems like fate bound the Windermere and Hayate Immelman together."
![[gg]_Macross_Delta_-_12_[0F7D9584].mkv_snapshot_13.19_[2016.07.09_01.51.33].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/7UeKnyZ.jpg "[gg] Macross Delta - 12 [0F7D9584].mkv snapshot 13.19 [2016.07.09 01.51.33]")
>>143883705
They are shown few times.
Still they don't spend too much time on world building and scenery compared to Frontier which is a shame.
![[gg]_Macross_Delta_-_14_[7D297D81].mkv_snapshot_04.39_[2016.07.07_06.58.57].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/tbUNBCu.jpg "[gg] Macross Delta - 14 [7D297D81].mkv snapshot 04.39 [2016.07.07 06.58.57]")
Being Chuck is suffering
>>143878522
>Messer above Hayate
>Messer above any other male character
>Has no merchandise
Well at least they use him to promote things.
>>143881482
Survey is still going since it's a promo event for a streaming site. They just posted intermediate results.
You can register and vote too: http://macross.jp/news/?id=278
>>143887519
What? They did much more with Ragna than with Frontier. Especially considering the Delta team moves around a lot. Frontier was just space San Francisco and nothing that hadn't already been seen in 7
>>143887781
They use him for his death.
>>143878108
I can't wait till Delta starts to get lewd official art like Frontier.
>>143885905
Kaname is gorgeous
RUNE PIKA BEAAAAAAMU!
Macross Delta will end September 18th. Hayate's bday is September 21st.
I have to say, Basara is the best MC we've ever had in a macross. Why don't they make another series with him? Is the VA still active? He has a pretty talented voice.
>>143889869
No wait I'm a fucking idiot. It ends the 25th
>>143882915
She is Sivil 2.0
>>143887355
Since the OTP of SDF only spawned girls Hayate and Mirage could be siblings.
>>143887837
Frontier was entirely wasted potential. Even the vajra were just insectoid space whales.
Can we all just agree that Ranka is the absolute worst, out of all the series? That's obvious, right? I just hope they're not developing Freyja to be Ranka 2.0.
Where's that song poll we had a few threads ago ?
>>143884159Seem legit.
>>143891767
Frontier a shit, I hope nobody will be [insert F character here] 2.0.
>>143891767
Minmay was the worst.
>>143891860
Would it be logical for Bogue to eventually manage to kill her?
I'm so upset that I've searched high and low and found no HayaFre fanfics
>>143892719
Learn Nips and read it on pixiv.
Bokura no Senjou is such a hype song. Actually JUNNA's voice is perfect for any hype songs. Can't wait until her and Minori cover Lion, because that song, with their harmonization and distinct tone of voice, will surly be epic.
>>143892719
Pixiv has almost 60. But anyways
>reading fanfics
>>143889930
>Basara is the best MC we've ever had in a macross
Are you actually serious?
>>143892787
I'd like to hear what 'bout my star. I've always liked that song, but I'd like to hear a nicer English in it.
>>143893077
Yes. What do you have against him? Just that he didn't fight?
>>143893077
Basara is best boy.
>>143891767
First no, Mylene is the worst. The absolute worst. Second, I am getting sick of this [character from F] 2.0 meme as if F was the only entry in the franchise. Third, I think they've achieved with Freyja in less than half the series what usually takes other Macross singers the entire series
>>143893124
I don't have anything really against him. I just don't think of him as the best MC. I don't really think he's that interesting and honestly kind of annoying as a character
Inb4 I'm not listening to his song enough. I never said anything about his music.
Freyja is the best female MC Macross has turned out in a while IMO
can someone clue me in on the mayan shit that the windermere king was talking about 2 episodes ago?
how could the indigenous inhabitants of windermere know about shit from macross zero?
>>143891767
Ranka and Ranka's lesbo friends are the worst Macross girls ever.
![[gg]_Macross_Delta_-_14_[7D297D81].mkv_snapshot_20.27_[2016.07.08_21.28.37].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/TlYOV3D.jpg "[gg] Macross Delta - 14 [7D297D81].mkv snapshot 20.27 [2016.07.08 21.28.37]")
>>143893209
Agreed
>>143893295
Wasn't Roid researching everything about the Protoculture? The name of the Mayans probably came up
>>143889948
I thought we're getting 27 episodes so it would be the week after
![[gg]_Macross_Delta_-_14_[7D297D81].mkv_snapshot_17.00_[2016.07.08_21.29.39].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/TJPeU2G.jpg "[gg] Macross Delta - 14 [7D297D81].mkv snapshot 17.00 [2016.07.08 21.29.39]")
So I don't think anybody has noticed this but there's a chance the Island or something regarding the Island may be called the Hibiki because it keeps showing HIBIKISYS on this screen.
II is relevant!
>>143893488
yea, but why would they be the "true kings" or true name of the kings on windermere? ketchups father disdains earthlings and it's likely that the protoculture was involved with windermere before they ever got to earth.
>>143883482
It makes perfect sense.
>Random fold quartz
>Constant trips
>Someone had to give Freyja Walkure music
>Military father
>Probably banged Freyja's mom while on combat tour
>Why Hayate and Freyja are so in sync
They are siblings and Kawamori's taking us for a ride.
>>143883482
They are
Mirage wins
Freyja is happy her half-bro got a wife
Freyjafags on the day of the rope
>>143893597
The question was "why do the Windermereans know about Mayans" I am assuming that is in reference to when Gramia said "The true king something something Mayan". I can assume that has to do with Roid's research. It's how they even know know what they're doing in the first place. Past that I don't know
>>143893295
Mayan is a Protoculture word.
>>143893657
I hope this is the case. Nippons won't like this.
>>143893657
>>143893804
Are we going to need to add yet another delusion to this list? I actually think we're going to have to start keeping a list of "retarded delusions people had during Delta" to laugh at at the end of the series.
>>143893818
right, it just threw me for a loop
>>143893822
this makes a little more sense then, thanks
>>143893852
Thread delusions bingo when?
![[gg]_Macross_Delta_-_14_[7D297D81].mkv_snapshot_06.36_[2016.07.07_05.45.26].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/nWabAeQ.jpg "[gg] Macross Delta - 14 [7D297D81].mkv snapshot 06.36 [2016.07.07 05.45.26]")
>>143893910
Make sure "Bogue will fall for Freyja" and "NUNS Major guy is doing nothing wrong" is in there
>>143893852
Let's be honest for a second. The sibling thing wouldn't be the worse thing Kawamori did.
Or are we all forgetting the Bestiality end in Aquarion Evol.
>>143893852
You can add "Freyja is going to win" on that bingo card.
>>143894089
>You can add "Mirage is going to win" on that bingo card.
Fixed
Seriously, not a single one of you can come up with a scenario where Mirage could possibly win on her own with her own merits at this point in the show without something happening to Freyja be it her dying, having someone else fall for her or this new "they're siblings" thing. The delusions just keep piling every week and it looks less like you think Mirage can win because of it
do you think mirage enjoys anal
>>143894148
Freyja is in the imoutozone and will never get out of it.
>>143894148
No one though Misa would win until they did that trapped on the Earth episode. Things can evolve and change. Macross is like that sometimes.
>>143894148
>this new "they're siblings" thing
This is not new. people are saying it since a long time. It's a shit theory, but it's not new.
>>143894260
I don't know how often this has to be repeated in these threads but using SDF as an example is a terrible idea because SDF was changed midway through production to become a love triangle. The original plan was for her to be in a relationship with Global
I think Kawamori is cool and all bit I dont like his taste in women.
>>143894512
Explain further
>>143894512
Why? Because he's a Minmayfag?
Wasn't Kawamori at Animeexpo? Did we not get any interesting info about Delta from that?
The real triangle?
>>143894580
He was supposed to talk about his new anime, but I've literally heard nothing about anything.
>>143882397
Please. The only thing that puts her ahead of Makimaki is the popularity of her seiyuu. Aside from the OP, when has one been seen without the other? How can one jump ahead in character development when they're always hand in glove?
>>143894539
Kawamori's waifus: Minmay, Sheryl and Mikono.
>>143894601
>The real triangle?
More or less. This is not about who wins the Hayatebowl, it's about who wins the Freyjabowl, Hayate, Mirage or Mikumo.
>>143894601
In both swimsuit shots Mikumo's breasts are just spilling out.
>>143894704
Right. Mikumo's kumo's looks like they want to compete with Makimaki
>>143894630
>The only thing that puts her ahead of Makimaki is the popularity of her seiyuu
Pretty much whenever Reina talks it's usually something poignant or humorous
>>143895025
Reina is the most boring character for me. Her songs are the worst too.
>>143894804
She's got a lot of protoculture.
>>143894630
>Reina's voice sounds much better than Makina's in songs.
>Reina has better, and more interesting dialogue than Makina.
>Reina has more depth than Makina, based on her verbalizing her likes, and dislikes etc.
The only way Miragefags can see Mirage winning is if Freyja dies, is Hayate's sister or goes back to Windermere.
Nice. You're basically saying Mirage can't win by her own merits unless Freyja is no longer in the picture. How sad.
>>143895144
mirage is objectively hotter tho
>>143895144
Yes. Because Freyja is a character development black hole
>>143895081
Silent Hacker > BEGINNER
Beginner is the objectively the "worst" out of every song.
>>143895081
That's because people who don't like Reina just focus on the short hair etc. Reina's design is decent, but her lines are never wasted. Reina is arguably the 3rd or 4th most developed Walkure member. Makina's awesome character design can't help her lack of presence.
>>143895025
>>143895133
Okay, I can accept that. But they're still both wading in the same kiddy pool of prominence.
>>143895178
>implying hayate will pick Mirage just because of attractiveness (your words) over Freyja who is someone who actually inspires him, understands him, makes him happy and resonates with him
Whatever floats your boat. I'm staying on Freyja's side.
>>143895178
What does that have to do with anything? Mikumo's the hottest of them all anyway
>>143895292
Because he can't pick his sister
>>143895257
Interestingly the Japanese fans, and the english fans who understand Japanese praise Beginner as an awesome song for the amazingly intelligent puns in them. I guess that song is just a language barrier, it even sounds like something nips would like.
![[gg]_Macross_Delta_-__[5D8A9FB4].mkv_snapshot_08.06_[2016.04.24_20.03.04].png](https://i.imgur.com/FLgPCZA.png "[gg] Macross Delta - [5D8A9FB4].mkv snapshot 08.06 [2016.04.24 20.03.04]")
>>143895310
BUT MUH MIDRIFF
>>143895257
I actually like Beginner now compared to when I was first listening to it. It's fun to sing along to
>>143895322
I'm so sorry your mother let you suck on batteries as a child
>>143895257
Silent Hacker is probably going to be the Beginner of the second album. Apparentky the songs that we have all heard thus far, on Walkure Attack were their weakest set of songs. Can't wait to here giri giri ai 2.0
>>143895332
Good point. Makina's the hottest of them all
>>143895322
You've really chosen to raise that flag and stand by it until the end huh?
>>143895329
>>143895340
Eh, maybe I'll go back to it then. I just wasn't too fond of it compared to the other songs, but I haven't given it another chance since the episode it aired in.
>>143895292
mirage understands him as well in relation to piloting and how they mesh when shit needs to get done. they have that comrade-style bond that can bloom into attraction (already did on mirages side)
im not saying she has a better chance or anything because of this but you can easily see why hayate might choose her
>>143895310
i'm just saying she's hotter m8 that's all. i don't really care who wins, it's just a tv show. i don't really watch macross for the love triangles.
>>143895388
You should definitely hear the whole thing on the album so you can catch all the fun wordplay
(Also it was in 2 episodes)
>>143895291
This is true, which is why it was smart of them to make them a pair. What do you do with the two Walkure members who can't stand on their own? Ship them together so they sell together.
Smart marketing choice actually.
>Freyja is deveopled through main character status.
>Mikumo sells on her own, creates her own hype.
>Kaname was given the Messers life as a popularity boost, along with pity story.
>Makimaki and Reirei sell together.
>>143895491
My Japanese is horseshit so I doubt I'll catch it but
>(Also it was in 2 episodes)
Was it really? I swear I only heard it when they were hacking the doors to the protoculture ruins.
I'm so hyped for it to be Sunday already. Can't wait to see more of Gori Gori being cute
>>143895388
It's just that at first, it's like wtf they actually gave them this song to sing. This is because we are used to their other songs being so significant. But when you listen to Beginner, just analyze it from a typical J-pop song. It's so catchy
>>143895329
>>143895388
Neo Stream came out of nowhere though. I bet nobody thought it would be as awesome as it is
>>143895717
Whose twitter
>>143895592
New OP, too. Hope its as superior as Lion was to Triangler.
For those of you who lurk 2chan, what is Mikumo, Freyja and Mirages popularity like over there? It's obviously Freyja, but is it Freyja/Mirage or Freyja/Mikumo?
They really placed Mirage on the back of the magazine, like damn.
>>143895835
>two idols get the front cover while the pilot goes to the back
Wow, colour me surprised!
>>143895835
You mean the idols got front billing? What a shock
>>143895790
Hell yes! I'm excited for the new OP as well. I wonder who will sing it.
>>143895909
>>143895937
He's right. Obviously Mikumo would get center stage over her, but even when she isn't there Mirage seems to be relegated back.
>>143895717
https://twitter.com/animage_tokuma
>>143896020
They really screwed up with Freyja's face here. She looks like a fish person.
Unless that's intentional
Still no preview
>>143896090
Some of the art looks wonky with his style. I like it, but their faces on the cover of the Walkure Attack album look odd and Hayte's face on the BD disc looks off.
>>143895909
>>143895937
>>143896020
That's literally nonsense because Mirage used to be on front covers, however those have been dying down. It has nothing to do with idols. If that was the case where are the other three idols??
>>143896213
>>143896268
It does have to do with idols. By that I mean they are the most popular characters and Walkure "takes" the show. They don't focus on the other three as much as Freyja and Mikumo because they're the duo-center and more popular.
They're important to the group but Freya and Mikumo are distinctly the face of Walkure.
>>143896268
>It has nothing to do with idols. If that was the case where are the other three idols??
It does though. It's just that Freyja and Mikumo are the "main" ones.
Also, you say Mirage is the back cover but that issue of Newtype is essentially a double cover
>>143895717
>>143896042
Interesting articles. Talks about how Mirages role solidifies towards the end of the series. She is the bridge to the final puzzle.
For the interview with the girls. Can't see Makina's VA but Reina's talks about her favorite song hasn't been heard yet and that she isn't like Reina at all. Kaname's VA talks about her life when she used to be an idol, and how she is happy as a manager of idols at her company. Says the role of Kaname hits her. JUNNA talks about the rough schedule with school, and jumping out of exams to record songs. Directed not to sing full at full potential and sing with minimal effort so that she doesn't drain out the other girls who are trying to catch up. Minori talks about how she is excited she is for the upcoming episodes and Freyja sings a lovely song for episode 22
>>143896449
And by "that issue" I mean the one in the OP
>no Heinz OP
>no Heinz ED
>no Heinz covers
>no Heinz CD
>Heinz only merchandise is one key chain
Men are discriminated in Macross even when they sing. Fuck this gay earth.
>>143896461
How the fuck can you read that, I tried so hard but the texts are too small.
>>143896461
>Directed not to sing full at full potential and sing with minimal effort so that she doesn't drain out the other girls who are trying to catch up
I like all of them, but her voice is ridiculously overpowering, not that it's necessarily a bad thing.
>Minori talks about how she is excited she is for the upcoming episodes and Freyja sings a lovely song for episode 22
Cute.
>>143896508
Well he has 2(?) songs in the OST so there's that I guess.
>>143896508
>>Men are discriminated in Macross even when they sing.
But the only one who sings is Basara?
Did you mean Heinz? He's only got like two songs.
Already scanned? I guess I don't have to purchase the magazine this time.
>>143896772
The pics are from the official twitter of the magazine so I don't think we're getting much outside of what's been posted.
>>143896461
>>143896545
He's pulling shit out their ass, that's how. The font is too small to read.
>>143897171
>that cleavage
Makina please.
>>143897171
Damn, /m/akimaki.
>>143897171
THE MAKIS CAN'T BE CONTAINED
>>143897171
We honestly need more of Makina and her makimaki's
>>143897341
>>143897434
>>143897540
>>143897591
Maki is pure sex.
>>143897171
That's a cute Reina
>>143897689
Holy fuck MIKUMO
>>143897689
Freyja's eye is melting, someone help her.
![[gg]_Macross_Delta_-_03_[F342ECEA].mkv_snapshot_23.39_[2016.04.18_13.31.09].png](https://i.imgur.com/dIEBzkP.jpg "[gg] Macross Delta - 03 [F342ECEA].mkv snapshot 23.39 [2016.04.18 13.31.09]")
>>143897760
That's just ridiculous eyelash man for you.
>>143897689
Mikumo has a fat ass damn. Her swimsuit is barely even on.
>>143897694
MORE LIKE THIS
>>143897694
>>143898046
Are these official art?
>>143898084
No, but with how he drew them they do give off production look.
>>143896461
>Freyja sings a lovely song for episode 22
I'm pretty sure it's gooing to be a Ranka song.
I thought it could be Seikan Hikou, but now with the adjective "lovely" it may be Ai Oboete Imasuka also.MY HYPE!!
>>143893295
http://macross.jp/delta/glossary/
>Rudanjaaru Nomu Mayan
>A sacred phrase passed down for generations in the Windermere royal house, holds the meaning "Below the name of the true king"
It's just protoculture legacy and has nothing to do with Roid's research.
>>143890241
Nah mane, she's Basara MKII
>>143898159
Goddamn dat ass
>>143897689
Mikumo is the most well balanced and well proportioned girl of Delta. Curves and slimness where it matters. Best designed Walkure.
Why is shinpi so cute?
>>143878522
Based Jellyfish Messer
>>143898570
nice, thanks for looking that up man
>>143882589
Wrong.
Sheryl > Mikumo.
>>143898777
jaka
out
>>143897689
>that skindentation
>that ass
>those tits
>that midriff
Wew Mikumo got everything in this image.
>>143898777
Not in character design. Sheryl literally has man face, even in official art.
>>143898560
I'd piss myself if she does sing it. You could be on to something though! I mean there is this yt of Freyja’s VA singing Ai Oboete Imasu Ka
https://youtu.be/CuECM8uugIM
NOW I'M SUPER PUMPED BC EVERYTHING IS MAKING EP 22 TO BE THE EP WHERE A LOTE OF SHIT GOES DOWN
>>143898046
>>143898155
>>143898159
>>143897694
Yuri the only winner
Bogue when?
>>143897171
Reina the only winner
NUNs dintdunuffin
>>143897744
>>143897954
>>143898681
>>143899007
They really went all out with Mikumo for that picture. Like the pose and everything. They wanted all aspects of her body to be admired.
>>143899437
NUNs didndu nuffin
he a good boy, we need mo taxes for dat expansion
Picked up both animage and newtype
episode 19 title is "Eternal Songs"
>>143899437
If NUNS are bad and Windermerians are good then why Ernest killed Gramia, but not Valan?
>>143899519
>episode 19 title is "Eternal Songs"
Mikumo's background story episode
>>143899669
But then she wouldn't be shinpi anymore
>>143899519
Mikumo's song of destruction?
>>143899861
She will get proper character arc with proper development instead.
>>143899861
It's almost time to say goodbye to our shinpi
>>143899519
Episode Titles
15. Parting Resolution
16. Hesitant Birthday
17. Scattering On Stage
18. Sense Emergence
19. Eternal Songs
>>143900000
>15. Parting Resolution
>16. Hesitant Birthday
>17. Scattering On Stage
>>143899923
Don't you get it, man? Without shinpi, there wouldn't be anything left of Mikumo. She would just be an empty husk, like Sheryl.
>>143882321
>>143897689
Sheryl is just the eternal queen, but still, Mikumo is the greatest thing in Delta.
>>143900235
Dat Painting
Water bed
>>143898805
>>143898805
>>143898805
Friendly Reminder to vote for Ikenai Borderline as the next /a/ sings.
>>143900235
Is that Freya's room in bottom middle? Isn't it a bit too small for an idol? She doesn't even have any normal furniture there.
>>143900309
What are these eggs?
Their famous birds?
>>143900235
>>143900309
Top tier. Based Romain.
>>143900334
The last thing I want to hear is "giri giri /a/i" desu.
>>143900355
It looks pretty cute though. I'd take a room like that over sound big, soulless room.
>>143900309
Windermere is so beautiful.
>>143900355
Walkures aren't stars or idols, they are more like militarized singers who are contracted by civilians to cure Var.
>>143900438
Such a shame that these designs only last for a fleeting second at most, at least with these secondary planets.
>>143897689
You can tell that Mikumo was part of the original triangle until they introduced Mirage and now they can't stop shoving Mikumo to the audience since putting her in the backseat would be an awful waste of character design and singer.
>>143900628
There was never a triangle originally.
>>143900469
Literally shit and snow.
Voldor > Ragna > Al-Shahal > Windermere
>>143900628
Kawamorid didn't want to do a love triangle at all so Mikumo wasn't in that triangle.
Ragna: Water
Windermere: Wind
Voldor: Earth
Al Shahal: Fire?
Together combined are Captain Protoculture?
>>143900724
Ragna: Water
Windermere: Wind
Voldor: Wood
Al Shahal: Fire/Dessert
>>143900660
>>143900707
Keep drinking that kool-aid, every Macross that aired Kawamori claims he did not want a romance triangle and the shittiest ones did not have one.
>>143900628
Meanwhile the actual person apart of the triangle can't keep up.
>>143900707
>>143900660
Hasn't Kawamori been working on Mikumo since DYRL
>>143900628
Delta was originally planned to have a school setting. The protagonists would be about a school club of promising pilots and their aspiring idols partners (read: OTP) which buffed their performance in inter school competition. No serious war story, just fun.
Kawamori admitted he wanted to remove one of the three big elements of Macross for the story (if it had idols and planes, the love triangle was a goner) but his sponsors thought this was going to upset the audience used to meaningless dramatic shit so he changed his plans.
>>143900787
All the Macrosses had one, what are you smoking?
>>143900809
Mirage is doing fine for a non-idol and a girl who doesn't have real focus and merchandise.
>>143900850
Yup. Took him all these years to complete his damn self insert. Wish she wasn't so shinpi though
>>143900787
Kawamori didn't work on the shittiest Macross though.
>>143900850
She's a plot-related character, but not a love interest. In fact, within the story, she heavily ships Hayate/Freyja. Every time they have a scene, she's the first one supporting them.
Even during the first episodes when she was a necessarily bitch to Freyja, she secretly rooted for her when she and Hayate were together singing and dancing.
Mikumo might have been a character that Kawamori thought for a while, but the original Delta setting wasn't the real place for her debut (it was a high school story).
>>143900869
The point that he is trying to get across is that, when he did finally accept to have the love triangle. Mikumo was the first option, but to avoid repeat of frontier with two idols they choose Mirage. Mikumo has been in Kawamori's head since after his first series. Mirage and Hayate were the last two characters created for Delta.
>>143900964
>Mikumo might have been a character that Kawamori thought for a while, but the original Delta setting wasn't the real place for her debut (it was a high school story).
Which is probable why he conpensated it with the protoculture plot.
I didn't bother scanning a few pages of the animedia one because there wasn't anything relevant
>>143901149
Whoops I meant Animage.
>>143901068
He never really said that. Where are you getting this from?
Mikumo feels like Fudou from Aquarion, except less shit. A self-insert for him to be mysterious and godlike.
Freyja has always been Delta's heroine. He spoke of it from conception: an idol who sings as if her life were at stake, he wanted a super-proactive type of idol and from that he imagined the Windermere, the race she would belong to explain her extreme lifestyle.
Mikumo was something he thought about for a while but she was never to be a heroine. She's a mentor figure to Freyja.
>>143901191
The Walkure outfits are just something that grows on you desu.
you mean they removed mikumo because she would shit on freyja hard freyjafags would be on instant ptsd and suicide watch so they plugged in a jenius to make freyjafags think that their horse is winning even though she's stuck in a little sister in distress role
they even gave mirage two crutches by not being a singer and being a terrible pilot not befitting her family name
>>143901218
>you mean they removed mikumo
Are we watching the same show?
>this entire post
>>143900235
>Ragna. Inhabitants were living in the sea. Humans helped them to create high tech city with unique but still modern architecture.
>Voldor. Inhabitants were living on trees in jungles. Humans helped them to create high tech city with unique but still modern architecture.
>Windermere. It was a shithole with inhabitants living in ancient Nordic style villages. Even after getting all the technology they still live in shithole. They don't even have roads there. And the king instead of trying to improve life of his citizens decides to declare a war.
Windermere was a mistake.
>>143901300
For all the hate Freyjafags give Mirage, and just the general lack development most people in the show claims that Mirage gets. Mikumo would have been the better option, heck even Reina.
>>143901309
>>143901373
TOO MANY TRIANGLES
>>143900235
>>143900309
>>143900371
>>143900438
>>143901149
>>143901191
>>143901232
>>143901276
>>143901309
>>143901373
I literally have to beg translator anon~kun to translate a sentence. I doubt he'd be up to translate all this ;_;
>>143901499
Why is Kaname's VA so ugly?
>>143901218
Whatever the fuck you are on, give me some. Those delusions are giving you a great time
>>143901685
Snorting ground up Windermerean runes is the new hit thing.
I might be a disgrace as a HayaFre shipper but I'd gladly give up on it if it meant Freyja could get a longer lifespan. I really don't want her to die at 30.
>>143901933
She's going to die and she's going to lose
>>143902051
She could lose the Hayatebowl and die and would still have more relevance than Mirage. I hope they actually put some more focus on Mirage before the end of the show because we seem to be going the Mikumo route right now.
https://www.amazon.co.jp/%E3%83%A1%E3%82%AB%E3%82%B3%E3%83%AC%E3%82%AF%E3%82%B7%E3%83%A7%E3%83%B3-%E3%83%9E%E3%82%AF%E3%83%AD%E3%82%B9%E3%82%B7%E3%83%AA%E3%83%BC%E3%82%BA-%E3%83%9E%E3%82%AF%E3%83%AD%E3%82%B9%E3%83%87%E3%83%AB%E3%82%BF-C-108-%E3%83%9E%E3%82%AF%E3%83%AD%E3%82%B9%E3%82%A8%E3%83%AA%E3%82%B7%E3%82%AA%E3%83%B3%E8%A6%81%E5%A1%9E%E5%9E%8B/dp/B01HZ6Q42E/378-1947854-8020507?ie=UTF8&camp=1207&creative=8411&creativeASIN=B01HZ6Q42E&keywords=%E3%83%A1%E3%82%AB%E3%82%B3%E3%83%AC%E3%82%AF%E3%82%B7%E3%83%A7%E3%83%B3%20%E3%83%9E%E3%82%AF%E3%83%AD%E3%82%B9%E3%82%B7%E3%83%AA%E3%83%BC%E3%82%BA%20%E3%83%9E%E3%82%AF%E3%83%AD%E3%82%B9%E3%83%87%E3%83%AB%E3%82%BF%20SDF%2FC-108%20%E3%83%9E%E3%82%AF%E3%83%AD%E3%82%B9%E3%82%A8%E3%83%AA%E3%82%B7%E3%82%AA%E3%83%B3%E8%A6%81%E5%A1%9E%E5%9E%8B%20%E3%83%97%E3%83%A9%E3%83%A2%E3%83%87%E3%83%AB&linkCode=shr&qid=1467988543&redirect=true&sr=8-1&tag=collectionday-22
>>143902683
pack for VF-31J
>>143901377
Nice shit taste you have there. Windy villages > ugly Ragna/Voldor cities.
Thanks for the scans bro.
>>143902786
Are we going to get super pack in Delta? I remember there was interview which said Hayate would get an upgrade for his plane. But now I'm not sure if they meant an actual upgrade such as super pack or they just meant he would get Messer's VF.
>>143903016
We are getting Makina's Super Pack.
>>143903016
Keith will fly that VF eventually.
>>143902727
What about other characters or Animedia? Thanks for the scans.
>>143903237
Knowing Keith, he would make a sculpture out of that plane and keep it in his castle.
>>143901536
Minoringo asking us to look forward to more songs~ surprises noone really.
>>143902795
This. Windermere is so comfy and beautiful, the houses look great and the castle is gorgeous. Best planet so far, it reminds me of a British 19th century village I fell in love with years ago.
>>143903042
I'd Super Pack her. I'd Super Pack her real good.
>>143903275
I didn't pick up animedia. No other Macross characters made it on animage, but there should be a few in the next issue because of the Delta cover.
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>>143900724
Japanese has 5 elements:
Earth
Water (Ragna)
Fire (Al-Shahal)
Wind/Air (Windermere)
Void (ether, sky, Heaven)
Chinese:
>Generating
Wood feeds fire;
Fire creates earth (ash);
Earth bears metal;
Metal collects water;
Water nourishes wood.
>Overcoming
Wood parts earth;
Earth absorbs water;
Water quenches fire;
Fire melts metal;
Metal chops wood.
>>143903742
>Water
>Fire
Reina and Makina ( like oil and water)
>Wind/Air
Freyja
>Void (ether, sky, Heaven)
Mikumo
>Earth
It leaves only Kaname
Giraffe blues is a little gay. Thanks for ruining that song for me /a/
>>143903042
we no, only Reina
>>143903016
Macross ever have a superpack
>>143903742
>5 elements colors
Green/Blue = Earth
Yellow = Water
Red = Fire
White = Wind, Air
Black = Space, Void
Blue = East, Green (compound color), Spring, Wood, Meditation
Red = South, Scarlet (compound color), Summer, Fire, Zeal
White = West, Crimson (compound color), Autumn, Wind, Faith
Black = North, Purple (compound color), Winter, Water, Wisdom
Yellow = Center, Brown (compound color), Earth, Memory
between eyebrows (blue, dark, or black)
heart (red)
navel (white)
hips (yellow)
top of skull (bright)
>>143904366This one fits the most
>Blue = East, Green (compound color), Spring, Wood, Meditation
Reina
>Red = South, Scarlet (compound color), Summer, Fire, Zeal
Makina
>White = West, Crimson (compound color), Autumn, Wind, Faith
Freyja
>Black = North, Purple (compound color), Winter, Water, Wisdom
Mikumo
>Yellow = Center, Brown (compound color), Earth, Memory
Kaname
>>143881573
I don't know why. But I never saw Messer and kaname as a thing before. I always felt Messer was intoGoodgirls like mikumo.
>>143905041
they've literally never interacted
>>143905877
ooooh. suspensful
>>143905895
No shit.
>>143905877
Okay, so who is going to have birthday in the 16 ep.?
>>143906258
Hayate
>>143905877
Translation?
You were right guys. Macross Zero is absolute shit. Nothing about it was worth my time.
>>143905895
>they've literally never interacted
They've interacted several times in the past. Socializing and hanging out with each other is what doesn't happen.
>>143905877
>Main vocal exchange!? Kumokumo in a piiinch!
>As windermeres song of the wind is growing stronger, at the same time there seems to be a change to Mikumo. The power of song is growing weaker!? [Maybe, the grammar throws me off in that sentence]
At this rate her role might reverse with Freyja in Walkure. What is happening to Mikumo? Floating naked in the water, that mystery will also become clear....!?
>>143906777
>16. Hesitant Birthday
>17. Scattering On Stage
>>143906777
Maybe Mikumo has used her song for something that now she is weak.
>>143904005
Oi Sue, can I?
![[gg]_Macross_Delta_-_14_[7D297D81].mkv_snapshot_15.49_[2016.07.09_03.12.10].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/z4F3V9P.jpg "[gg] Macross Delta - 14 [7D297D81].mkv snapshot 15.49 [2016.07.09 03.12.10]")
cute
>>143906777
Idols can't get infected with Var .........
>>143906777
Maybe she's being infected by Heinz's selfdestructive sadness.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xs9vQJIHp9k
>Minorin love Snufkin
Why is her taste so good?
>>143906777
Looking at it again. The troublessome sentence seems to literally say "The power of song is in a state of not rising" so its not getting better, but not neccessarily getting weaker. And technically you're not 'floating' when you're submersed, should have used a different word.
>>143907360
She has the best taste in everything.
>>143907393
Bogue, plz
>>143907454
>実は鈴木、ボーグが大好きだ！大好きだ！
From 好き to 大好き now. Best taste.
>>143907360
Also, listening to this apparently Kawamori came up with Run Pika Beam and Gori Gori Attack on the spot while she was singing the ED because he thought the song was lacking something.
>>143907608
Why is Kawamori so based? He just threw in some words together and let it become a meme.
>>143906777
>Floating naked in the water, that mystery will also become clear....!?
What if Keith's Draken accidentally crashes into floating Kumo?
What the hell is this?
>>143885007
I'm just waiting for the reveal that this is Lady M.
>Δでは、主人公にとって歌姫の存在が最初から大きすぎるんだよなあ。
>だから、三角関係になりきれないというか……
Triangle nip discussions are interesting. Most agree it's either a Basara-sky kind of end or it'll go to Freyja. They can't even imagine Mirage as anything more than a male buddy to Hayate.
>>143908203
I see only these two options too: sky or Freyja. Mirage's story is to find her own carrier.
>>143908245
On the other hand, Messer already won.
>>143881514
so erotic
>>143901458
So this interview again confirms that Freyja will gradually learn that she is the only one who has less time than her friends.
It also confirms that Keith is a Skyfag and Lloyd is a realist.
>>143908628
>So this interview again confirms that Freyja will gradually learn that she is the only one who has less time than her friends.
That conversation with Messer was a foreshadowing that Freyja would start thinking about the future. It's a pitty that these two hadn't got to talk more about life.
>>143908628
> Skyfag vs realist
As in Keith won't be 100% satisfied until all the flithy nuns are forever out of MUH SKY?
Whereas Lloyd knows nuns are never gonna back off completely and thus is more open to negotiate better terms / co-exsist with them?
>>143908628
I was waiting for this to happen. Other windy characters like Keith, Roid and Cassim mention this issue again and again. Herman doesn't because he has little left to live, but he shows concern over Bogue's immaturity. Freyja didn't because her goal at first was literally YOLO and just sing for the rest of her short life because that's what she loves but now she has to face the reality that all her friends are going to outlive her. I don't know if they will go the YOLO route and not find a solution for their short lifespans, but Delta is clearly not romanticing the fact that they only live for 30 years. The future is a big issue for Windermere.
>>143908732
>As in Keith won't be 100% satisfied until all the flithy nuns are forever out of MUH SKY?
As in it's not that he likes fighting. He loves flying.
>>143909109
>He loves flying.
Bullshit. From what I've seen, he loves competition, and he loves riding the wind.
Hayate loves flying. To attribute this to Keith just makes you an idiot fanboy.
>>143909109
Ah I see. So if the whole war business wasn't going on he'd kinda be like a Windermerian Hayate re; skyloving.
>>143901458
>Windermere is the enemy, but they aren't portrayed as evil or hateful
>I think they are meant to represent differences in values and culture
Glassfags officially BTFO
>>143909315
>Glassfags
They exist?
>>143909300
Just compare his current self to his past one. When he was a kid he just loved flying and wanted to protect his brother and his country and his flying made a beautiful wind. And nowadays he still mourns Messer despite having killed him. War changing people may be another theme when you look at Windermere's characters.
>>143909404
Yeah I totally agree with you that the Keith we see in series is a direct product of him suffering through the war 7 years ago.
I just thought at first that skyfag vs realist meant Keith and Roid's differing opinions about the outcome of the current war.
![Macross Delta - 01 (1280x720 HEVC2 AAC).mkv_snapshot_15.18_[2016.06.20_19.04.12].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/QdWkfH1.jpg "Macross Delta - 01 (1280x720 HEVC2 AAC).mkv snapshot 15.18 [2016.06.20 19.04.12]")
>>143906777
Mikumo is going into a cocoon, cap this.
Mikumo is a windermerian.
Just look at her hair, every single rune person has two shades of color on the hair.
She cut her own rune.
>>143901149
>>143901191
>>143901232
>>143901276
>>143901309
>>143901373
Well i remember last month of Animage was also pretty pointless.
>>143909268
Nah to Windermerians loving to ride the wind = loving to fly. It's just because they have a wind based that they have a specific term for it.
Honestly if Keith hadn't gotten jaded by the war, personality wise he'd probably be like a more focused Hayate.
>>143882321
Why is Mikumo always beside main triangle?
>>143901416
They wouldn't make this happen since all staff want is just pushing Freyja and her VA, i can see any potentially things that could hurt Freyja and her VA's popularity are banned before they start writing the plot.
>>143909590
damn I meant
*they have a wind based CULTURE
>>143909530
Or her tentacle hair is just one giant rune.
>>143908203
>one reply means what all Japanese think
That said, Mirage is just a background npc and fan service item, not even Hayate's buddy, that's what i get from first 14 episodes.
>>143909634
Yes, thats better actually
>>143908245
Are you still dreaming that they will give Mirage any development about her own? they had chance in episode 14 but they wasted it, you should't have any hope about her writing anymore.
>>143909753
Gbt animesuki Thess
>>143909805
Wat? i just saying don't expect anything about Mirage anymore so you can enjoy rest of the show.
With current treatment, even Mirage "wins" Hayatebowl, she still lose...lose the love from staff, and many fans (especially Freyja fans) will label her as one of worst Macross series character because she never do anything worthy.
I don't understand why there are Miragefags keep saying "Hayate going to pick her! she will win!" but never care about her own, unless these people are not really Miragefags.
>>143894512
Mikono was the only terrible one.
>>143909753
From >>143901458
>She hasn't had a lot of chances to be dere yet, and if we make it too sudden her character changes, so maybe her relationship with Hayate will deepen at a more gradual pace
>She still has many things she needs to overcome
>She still must break free from flying by the books
>At some point she will have to advance her relationship with Hayate, when will she do so?
>>143910128
Why should i still trust them?
>>143910128
>She hasn't had a lot of chances to be dere yet, and if we make it too sudden her character changes, so maybe her relationship with Hayate will deepen at a more gradual pace
They already fucked that part up. IMO her affection for hayate was so sudden and baseless that it completely threw me off. I hate when anime is like "we'll make her dere dere, thank God for Character development!"
It's like now the only thing that defines her is "gasp! Hayate! Blush blush"
>>143909315
Indeed. War, killing and mind controlling is just a part of Windermerian culture. Why would anyone dislike them?
So was my torrent (I'm buying the deluxe edition with the DVD on Monday, I swear.) missing something or is pic related not on the album?
>>143910128
> if we make it too sudden her character changes
When she has started to blush at Hayate, I was thinking that I overlooked some development. It's already fucked up. They promised development in the last episodes, because it must happen. The next arc is about Mikumo.
>>143910468
It's not on it. And that's a good thing.
>>143910595
>and that's a good thing
What's it like having awful taste?
2ch finally heard about the speculation on the new ED and one of them thinks the ID numbers correspond to hex color codes, like the colors of a giraffe.
But I'm not seeing it.
>>143910128
I hope everyone who was whinning about how they were only going to develop Mirage as a love interest will shut up now. Her development reminds me of Gamlin's.
>>143911015
I don't think her problem is "she is love interest of Hayate or not" though, you can see people seems don't trust what staff said when it's about Mirage.
>>143910864
I googled the hex color codes from the ID numbers and it's kinda there but not quite.
873035 it's a dark red while 877720 it's a dark yellow (olive tone).
Do they agree with our theory though?
>>143911015
Anon people are looking for any excuse to bitch about Mirage by this point.
>>143911071
mirage x chuck confirmed
>>143911071
Well there's no blue so Hayate is nowhere to be found.
Dark red = Mirage
Dark yellow = maybe Freyja
>>143910574
>>143910309
Development was
Mirage started off overly serious -> worked with Hayate -> they butted heads at first -> eventually she lightens up because of him -> he saves her life -> oh shit I caught feelings
>>143911071
They were going GAIJIN SUGEEE at first, but some of the things about the numbers don't seem to match out so they're talking about that a little.
>>143894601
>Dat Mikumo ready to grope Mirage's boobs
>>143911084
From last thread's color discussion it's Mirage x Heinz but you can see that's not possible at all.
>>143911015
Not much people believe it. That she is going to get some development at the last episode it's a given ( no one expects anything romantic).
>>143911139
How salty were the mirageshippers anon?
lol jk, but what did they mean by the numbers not matching? Are the IDs wrong?
Freyja has won. I don't know what will happen to her in the series, I don't know if hers and the windermerean life span will be "resolved" somehow, I don't know if she will win any bowls or not. Regardless of what happens, I'll be a devoted fan, and cheer her on. I just hope they give us (meaning her) a happy and fulfilling end ;_;
Wish the same on the other characters, including Mirage, but I'm not sure her stakes are as high. (As long as she doesn't get killed. It'd suck if she or Hayate or even Mkumo got killed)
>>143911209
At this point, I'm hoping she sacrifices herself for the greater good and we have a poignant sky ending. That would be great.
>>143911198
Well more like they are trying to figure out whether numbers are actually ID numbers or something else. One of them also pointed out there was a (something)73035 number appearing in one of the scenes where they are analyzing the Drakens in episode 2.
>>143911209
I expect the life span problem to be fixed. Since it has to do with their runes and they are organs that emit and receive fold waves and fold at this point may as well be magic, why not? The problem seems to be that their bodies can't keep up with their physical abilites and such, so when they reach a certain age they start crumbling apart, quite literally.
That said I think we are heading for a skyend/"you are both my wings" end.
>>143911356
Also, I'm going to add that the 877720 appearｓ in the analysis on Freyja's resonance with Mikumo in episode 2 and in some of the Walkure introduction shots in episode 1.
>>143911543
Do these ID numbers are given to them once the join the military (pilots, Walkure, etc.) or is something that comes up alone once they register aka it's completely out of luck?
>>143911642
I picked this up from episode 1. See if you can make any sense of it.
>>143911683
Ok some things I can get from this are:
1. In the place of the numbers we see in the new ED that are Freyja and Hayate's, the others besides that (897-41) have their names on and the ID is beneath it.
2. I don't know why their numbers have not been replaced by their names by now but I am sure it has nothing to do with color hex codes.
3. I am also not sure if the lower the number (for example Kaname starts with 0 while Reina with 3 and Mikumo with 8) means that they joined the military earlier.
I can't think of something else. Maybe we are looking to much into it and it means nothing.
>>143910309
>IMO her affection for hayate was so sudden and baseless
It's not really baseless if you look at the progression. And I mean, at least they, as well as Hayate and Freyja, had a relationship that grew over the series. In previous series at least one or two members would just be part of the triangle because they thought someone in it was hot and nothing else
![Macross Delta - 01 (1280x720 HEVC2 AAC).mkv_snapshot_13.02_[2016.06.11_15.17.32].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/S5CImj1.jpg "Macross Delta - 01 (1280x720 HEVC2 AAC).mkv snapshot 13.02 [2016.06.11 15.17.32]")
>>143909597
Wrong.
The triangle is the one besides main Mikumo.
>>143904005
Mikumo x Freyja OTP
Lastest draft. If you want changes, get them in before the ep airs tomorrow morning.
>>143909315
>Windhaters are missing the point of the show
As obvious as it was I'm glad is confirmed.
>>143909315
Honestly anybody thinking these guys were supposed to be 100% evil were probably deluded to begin with
Admittedly Gramia trying to shoot down the Aether with the Island right behind it was pretty iffy but he's dead now so eh.
>>143911951
I just checked episode 3 where Mirage is turning off the AI support for Hayate's VF-1. Her cockpit interface has the same numbers. Basically, we overthought this.
>>143911015
Mirage is already doomed here.
>>143911209
>Freyja has won
Nothing
>>143912491
You're right. The show doesn't attempt to paint them as evil. They're just rebels with a cause.
But the fact is, their mind-control a whole sector is genuinely very evil. They didn't consult any other planet about this. They've no better than Nazi Germany was. So, you tell me, are they actually good guys, fanboy?
True. We mightve over thought the numbers on the Ed but everything thing else still matches up.
We still have that support system error which leads to Hayate flying after Freyja in a portal made up of the resonance fold waves, he reaches her and then support is back online again.
Main point about ED is still there.
>>143912337
Put GIRI GIRI AI in the center again as the freebie? Because we all know that we'll get more Ikenai Borderline before this show is over.
>>143912781
>comparing temporary mind controll to the systematic attempt to annihilate the entire Jewish population
The fuck I am reading.
>>143913077
I'm comparing the German military advance, jewboy. Don't wear your star too liberally on your sleeve.
Principally, the way Germany invaded Poland without any right to do so. Now, compare that to what the windyfucks have done with the other planets in their system.
>>143911421
the runes seem a little bit pointless since we have walkure with fold receptor abilities as well. What sets the windermereans apart seems to be the increased physical abilites
>>143913077
He's on the right track, but on the wrong side of the globe.
Windemere is Imperial Japan. I don't mean that they're "like" Imperial japan, I mean they literally pulled out a history book and just changed the names to fit the Macross universe. Windemere's invasions of and subsequent control over the other planets in the sector under the guise of security and a united front against outside forces that wish to exert their own control is what Japan did when they invaded large parts of Asia with their Greater East Asia Co-Prosperity Sphere bullshit.
Japan, like Windemere, swept in and brought the population under their influence. Windemere uses mind control, Japan used death, and just like the Asian countries ended up longing for the "western imperialism" that Japan claimed to be protecting them from, other planets in the cluster feel they were better off before Windemere showed up.
You're also downplaying mind control significantly. There's a reason mind control is commonly presented as evil in fiction, and it's because even if temporary, mind control is the death of self. Your ego and personality are simply gone and replaced with a person who is not you.
>>143913382
Freyja == pure autism
Da fuck?
>>143913415
But they can do things with their runes that Walkure can't, like when Gramia senses that Ernest is coming, or when they notice the ruins are going to explode, also the fact that they can share their feelings and thoughts via their runes, etc.
>>143882321
Ahahaha, how is Freyja supposed to compete with all that
>>143913603
With screentime and focus
Freyja may be the triangle loser but she's the rolling cash cow since Mikumo bombed in popularity and her singer is ugly and trying to look super srs unlike Freyja's singer who is passable and always smiling
>>143912337
Lady m = Miranda
>>143913655
Hey. Mikumo is my second favourite. Don't be rude to her.
>>143912984
>Not putting GIRI GIRI MADE
>>143913565
I really don't know why there are so many anti-nuns/nung-fags here. Or why they overlook the obvious. I just can't understand.
>>143879343
http://www.oricon.co.jp/rank/ja/d/2016-07-08/
>>143913382
>>143913573
How do I acquire that shinpi
>>143911138
It still doesn't feel natural. Despite them growing closer it was jarring when the jellyfish festival happened and Mirage seemed to be a having on him. Freyja didn't have that problem at all.
>>143913882
Freyja is a mary sue, she doesn't have any problems.
>>143913948
I only liked Freyja at the start, when she was struggling with getting into the group. I liked Mirage when she was flustered at Hayate's boldness. The start was pretty good for both girls, but then it's somehow just become Freyja, Freyja, Freyja.
>>143913948
Sheryl is a mary sue, she doesn't have any problems
>>143913948
her old age
>>143913382
the art is bad. Who did this?
>>143914062
>Sheryl is a mary sue, she doesn't have any problems
Now you're just making it up.
Didn't you watch the anime?But, if I say Ranka is a Mary Sue, I think I'd have no trouble arguing that.
>>143882321
>>143897689
>giving shinpi the ass instead of the genki idiot
This isn't Symphogear at all.
>>143914128
You need to learn what the word actually means before you use it
>>143913948
She has to deal with her age and how she will go with it from now on. Using her rune so much, is not good for her.
She completed her goal to become a member of Walkure, found a purpose to sing besides "it makes me happy, dealt with the "traitor" thing going on and wants to find a way and reach her people to stop them from what is going on now.
Pretty sure she had to deal with and overcome a few things and still has. I don't think she is a Mary Sue.
How the fuck is Freyja a marysue? Clearly you've not being paying attention to her struggles and her determination to overcome them.
She's not perfect. She's just aware she's got little time so she makes up her mind fast and doesn't waste time dawdling over stupid bullshit. You'd be like that too if you were expected to die at 30.
>>143913864
Seriously? NUNS are fucking scum and moustache twirling villains. They are the Galaxy of Delta. Why the hell would anyone sympathize with the villains with no redeeming qualities.
>>143914358
Muh humans did nothing wrong, muh humans master race.
>>143914358
>M-muh murrica self insert!
>>143913948
She's pretty much been shown to be incompetent outside of anything but singing and she's only really saved the day in 2 episodes.
>>143913655
>Freyja may be the triangle loser but she's the rolling cash cow since Mikumo bombed in popularity and her singer is ugly and trying to look super srs unlike Freyja's singer who is passable and always smiling
It's like everything in this sentence is wrong
>>143914358
There's going to be a lot of things that we're going to look back and laugh at or pretend they never happened.
Remember when Frontier was being lambasted for being a high school anime even though nobody talks about that part anymore or when people thought the Vajra needed to be genocided. It's like nobody gets Macross is about understanding
>>143915047
Yeah, I noticed that too. I think we all did.
I'd give a lot to see Mikumo win the Hayatebowl.
>>143915201
But that's retarded and dumb
I want to tenderly lay with all of them!
>>143915047
So Freyja being plastered in 99% of merchandise and posters is wrong?
So Mikumo being less popular than Freyja and Mirage is wrong?
So you actually think that the forced no-smile, serious Junna is more attractive than Freyja's singer?
I won't even debate the first part because you're completely delusional.
>>143915249
I assume these are their skimpy wedding dresses? I like that use of lace.
>>143915227
no u
>>143915201
She was but they pulled the plug on the last second in favor of Mirage
Now they're stuck what to do with Mikumo and Mirage
Besides if Mikumo was in the triangle Freyja would just be a recolored Ranka and there will be no suspension of disbelief since Mikumo would just annihilate all competition
>>143915249at the same time
>>143906907
I'm starting to think the birthday might be Mikumo's. She might want to take the form of a regular human but her time is running out
>>143915254
>So Freyja being plastered in 99% of merchandise and posters is wrong?
Wow, the main female protaongist is on all the merchandise and posters? Stop the presses.
>So Mikumo being less popular than Freyja and Mirage is wrong?
I don't see how you quantify "bombed in popularity" though. I also don't see how just because Freyja is more popular than her that means she's not popular. Wouldn't this be completely effective since, again, she is the main character
>So you actually think that the forced no-smile, serious Junna is more attractive than Freyja's singer?
I think they're both pretty attractive. I don't think Junna's ugly or anything
>I won't even debate the first part because you're completely delusional.
Nobody has given an actual reason why Mirage should win the bowl that doesn't involve something else happening to Freyja to forcibly drop her out so forgive me if I seem a little bit skeptical of people who think that Freyja losing isn't delusion
>>143915227
A lot of people would have rather Mikumo in the triangle. I hope Kawamori addresses this soon.
>>143915201
I wanted that too, but after this many episodes of Hayate disregarding wenches to acquire currency I don't see how it would work anymore.
Nobody wants another Sheryl vs. Ranka. That was a shitty triangle.
>>143915360
>Wow, how did a lolsorandumbz Sheryl clone fall in love with our dense hero who can't even get up with an elf stripping in front of him
>>143915360
>A lot of people would have rather Mikumo in the triangle.
And those people are retarded. Mikumo isn't someone who by her personality should be involved in romance. It's like thinking Basara would care about someone romantically.
Also, Frontier rehashing
>>143915383
>That was a shitty triangle.
Only if you're a Rankafag, your fault for picking the losing horse :^)
I bet you also jumped on the Freyja train, there's still time to change stations
>>143915360
Luckily for us, Kawamori won't pander to these idiots.
>>143915384
Mikumo > Sheryl
Hayate > Alto
But yeah, it's a dumb pairing
>>143915249
Mirage's butt look weird.
>>143915417
>there's still time to change stations
For what? The losing side?
>>143914358
So? Dubya lied about Iraq, to invade. Obongo wants to disarm the civilians. Does it mean that Murrica is evil?
>>143915504
For the sky end.
>>143915384
>>143915399
Mikumo isn't a Sheryl clone, nor is Freyja remotely close to Ranka. The triangle would actually be intense and fun. The audience wouldn't be able to tell who is winning, unlike out current situation. The triangle could also work without damaging Mikumo's character or Freyja chance of winning. Mikumo would just be mysteriously and flirtatiously playful, leaving the audience wondering if she really does like him. Then the triangle resolves with Freyja winning because kumo loves music etc.
Mikumo in the triangle would just be better than our current triangle.
>>143915445
Mikumo's personally is far from Sheryls. I think you guys are mistaking Mikumo's personality. She comes off across as completed different than Sheryl. Given the same situation the would react differently.
Alto is also different from Hayate
>>143915580
>Mikumo isn't a Sheryl clone, nor is Freyja remotely close to Ranka
It isn't that they are similar to Sheryl and Ranka, the point is that they literally just did a two idols love triangle setup in the last series. It just freaking happened. Plus we already have enough people comparing Freyja and Mikumo to Ranka and Sheryl already so having them as part of the triangle would just be worse
And more importantly, I have to reiterate, it's not in Mikumo's character to be the kind who would be even considered romantically involved with someone even as a flirty thing. She's too much of a shinpi autist
>The triangle would actually be intense and fun.
Everybody would just call "Mikumo win" from the second episode alone
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>>143915094
>It's like nobody gets Macross is about understanding
Except windies are the ones who are actively against UNDERSTANDING. Whatever happened 7 years ago they can't forgive it. It's not a defensive war, it's plain revenge. Freyja lost something too during independence war, but she managed to forgive it. She wants everyone to live happy together.
The ending will be not about everyone understanding Windermerians, but about Windermerians understanding everyone.
>>143915663
Yes they're different. My statement is simply that Mikumo is better than Sheryl. Hayate is better than Alto. I'm not talking about in universe ability, or wether or not they're similiar as characters. I'm saying those characters are better. They're more likable.
>>143915693
>The ending will be not about everyone understanding Windermerians, but about Windermerians understanding everyone.
I just hope that most of them will be wiped out by then.
>>143915693
How does that change my point about understanding?
Mikumo is overrated.
>>143915693
I think, by the feel of the show, whatever happened to the windies will shock everyone. And this will probably lead to pity. The knights will blush as lots of people attempt to apologize, and soon afterwards the real evil will come out, so they'll all join forces and defeat that. And no harm done, happy-families again, windies included.
That's how I see this playing out. Probably happen about ep 20 or so, so that there's time for some knight-idol idle time.
>>143915754
Keep dreaming.
>>143915693
Mutual understanding. From Windermere's pov they are being accused of having dropped a bomb over themselves by the ones they had a war against. I'd be pissed off, too. Forgiving that isn't easy.
I hope Delta addresses the issue of Windermere's war soon.
>>143915787
Sheryl is overrated. Fight me
>>143915909
I actually don't think she is when you consider the only other decent girl character in F was Klan
>>143915938
Sheryl isn't a good character
>>143915828
It's what I expect, too. They have been keeping a secret all the details about Windermere's war becuase it's supposed to shock everyone.
Also, reminder that the Knights are their military and went against NUNS forces whom they hate with a passion.
>>143915990
It's been 8 years, m8.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RqNHqNQi6UU
>>143915938
Exactly. She was the only good female character in the show. Sheryl is a flawed and broken character masked with decent songs and her sex appeal. Her heroism was fake and altered to fit winning.
>>143915990
That's ridiculous. She had issues but had a fantastic personality and worked well. The story was just as much about Sheryl's slow fall as it was Ranka's rise and it worked very well.
While everyone is fighting I'm just sitting over here amused that pretty much everyone doesn't even want Mirage in the love triangle anymore
MIRAGEFAGS ON SUICIDE WATCH
>>143916219
>everyone doesn't even want Mirage in the love triangle anymore
You'd be surprised honestly.
I should at least say for the show's benefit, Mirage isn't unlikable. This is like the only triangle in Macros where I thought both girls were great
Thread has turned to shit but the new summary is out thankfully.
>>143878522
>Kaname second
This should make those hurr-oldhag-durrr trolls shut the fuck up for a while.
>Mikumo isn't someone who by her personality should be involved in romance
That's why it would've been novel and interesting. If anything it's Hayate who's turned out to be channeling Basara so far.
>hurr Sheryl 2.0
Mikumo is almost nothing like her. I didn't take part in the shipping shitstorm when Frontier aired, but now the Sherylfags are really starting to get cancerous. Atleast Rankafags had the decency to die off.
>>143916373
Finally.
It seems it's going to be Windermere episode. I hope they will tell about events 7 years ago and end this cancer.
>>143916160
>fantastic personality
>Shitty tsundere
>alternatively haughty bitch with token weak side
sure, fampai. And don't even bother mentioning shitka. I'm saying sheryl's personality is shit purely on her own merits.
>>143916464
>Windermere episode
About fucking time.
>>143916418
>That's why it would've been novel and interesting
It wouldn't be novel or interesting by design alone because the idea of two idol setup in a triangle was just done in the last series. Kawamori doesn't do the same things like that especially not for something that was in the last series
亡きグラミアの跡を継ぎ、ハインツ・ネーリッヒ・ウィンダミアが新たな王となる。ウィンダミアの歴史において、古より伝わる「風の歌い手」が玉座に就くのは約150年ぶりの出来事。制風圏を確立し、ウィンダミアの空を取り戻した今、ハインツは一体何を想うのか――
>>143916615
>>143916615
Thanks. I'll translate for the majority who can't read Japanese.
Kieth is slowly loosing life support. Heinz and Rois are at extreme clonflict, while the hole on Winderemere expand
>>143916373
It says Heins goes back to windermere to succeed Gramia as king. It's the first time in 150 years that a Winder singer sits on the throne. What does Heinz think now that the wind sphere etc has been established and windermere has taken back their sky.
>>143916812
I'm pretty sure that's not the correct translation.
>>143916826
should have linked to this >>143916615
>>143916812
Stop pulling things out of your ass.
>>143916826
>and windermere has taken back their sky.
>their sky
>THEIR
Windermerians are Nazi confirmed. Ragna's sky belongs to Ragnyans. Voldor's sky belongs to cat people.
>>143916812
>>143916826
Why are these two completely different?
>>143916946
I seriously hope you're just joking.
>>143917016
Because they are both troll translations.
The real preview says that Heinz will finally find out the dreadful truth about Windermerians nuking themselves 7 years ago.
>>143917016
Because one is obvious shitposting?
The Japanese preview has the number 150 in it. The only correct translation references said 150 number.
And no, making up new troll translations with 150 now that I've mentioned this, is too late. We know which one is the real one.
>>143916775
Keith wake up soon please.
I hope there's a fight next week
>>143916826
so we can assume Mikumo was a wind singer?
>>143917190
Flashback fights of NUNS nuking the Knights Academy and killing the kids.
>>143917187
No, please stay potato a while longer. The engagements really need it.
>>143917234
Except it's confirmed that dimensional bomb was dropped on NUNS forces.
>>143917288
Bomb was dropped on the ruins, NUNS forces and Freyja's village were collateral damage.
>>143917231
BROOOO
>>143917231
>so we can assume Mikumo was a wind singer?
That's the 1st thought that came up to me.
Mikumo is very old.
>>143917163
Japanese speaker here, can confirm >>143916826
is accurate (disregarding the English grammar) and didn't miss anything.
>>143917317
That's what I was trying to convey.
She could be the "original" singer on Windemere, and she and all the successor are called the wind singer by Windemereans?
Wait so are wind singers special. Like not everyone can be a wind singer? I'm asking because it's been noted that Freyja and Mikumo are able to affect the wind sort of like Heinz.
>>143917353
http://macross.jp/delta/glossary/
>カーライルの黒い嵐
>ウィンダミア第一次独立戦争の末期、使用が禁止されているはずの次元兵器が同国のカーライル地方に投下され、民間人や駐留していた新統合軍に甚大な被害を与えた。この惨劇を機に、新統合軍はウィンダミアから撤退。独立戦争は事実上の停戦状態を迎えた。
>The Black storm of Carlisle
>Towards the end of the Windermere war of independence, even though they're prohibited from use, a dimensional weapon was dropped in Carisle area, dealing enormous damage to the civilians and NUNS militairy personnel stationed there. NUNS withdrew from Windermere following this tragic event. The independence war ended in a ceasefire from this.
Mikumo being the original/ancestor of windsingers would be so cool. Heinz and Freyja could be her descendants.
>>143917465
http://macross.jp/delta/glossary/
>風の歌い手
>ウィンダミアに伝わる伝承のひとつ。風の歌い手は、その歌声によって竜鳥をはじめ、風や大地と心を通わせることができるという。王家の血筋にあらわれることが多いが、まれに例外も存在する。
>Wind Singer
>One of the traditions handed down in Windermere. The Singer of the wind, starting with the dragon bird is said to be able to bond emotionally with the wind and earth. While they often appear within the royal lineage, rare exceptions exist.
>>143917465
>Like not everyone can be a wind singer?
Wind singers are rare.
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