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First for Freyja x Hayate
How long until we see his happy face again?
>>143672360
Keith BTFO. As it should be.
>its an antagonist gets incapacitated and gets a permanent debuff allowing the protagonists to be on the same power level as him episode
>>143672481
But not as BTFO as Messer.
>>143672360
>tfw you will never marry Keith and make him happy
>>143672427
At leas we have the manga.
Fight for your favorite Walkure song!
The Walkure Attack album was leaked, so check it out.
>[Mashin] [160706] TVアニメ「マクロスΔ」ワルキューレ 1stアルバム「Walküre Attack!」[MP3]
~Vote for your favorite songs below. Don't forget you're allow to select multiple songs desu~ ~
http://www.strawpoll.me/10650809
>>143672513
Yep. I'd laugh if he wakes up and doesn't remember anyone. But then remembers Mikumo from his coma and goes to their side.
![[gg]_Macross_Delta_-_08_[09866842].mkv_snapshot_09.33_[2016.07.04_06.33.25].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/YvqawdB.jpg "[gg] Macross Delta - 08 [09866842].mkv snapshot 09.33 [2016.07.04 06.33.25]")
>>143672719
>fujos, yurifags and waifufags BTFO at the same time
It would be glorious.
>>143672360
Can I start macross at delta
I love mecha and I love idolshit
>>143672829
Yes but watch the older ones eventually anyway because they are mostly pretty good
>>143672829
Yep. It's pretty easy to just pick things up as you go. And the songs are awesome.
>>143672829
At the very least see the SDF Macross series and adaption movie
>>143672719
>>143672743
Remember Mikumo? They have never even met. This shipping is the most delusional bullshit ever.
>>143672409
Best overprotective couple I ever seen.
A potentially funny part could happen after this episode: Hayate's father is pilot and her mother is doctor, while Mirage's father is doctor and her mother is pilot.
What if both father done something "wrong" before?
>>143672719
I can honestly see Keith remembering Mirage. He would totally be into her too. Mirage deserves a prince.
>>143672996
No more delusional than last week Keith/Chuck's dead sister.
>>143672829
Of course. If you want to watch older series. Just watch DYRL the movie, and then watch both Frontier movies and you'll be fine.
>>143672996
No, you don't get it. We're all hoping Mikumo invades his thoughts while he's in coma. Then, he awakens, and bam! He becomes her knight.
Remember, she does weird shit like that.
>>143673019
Hayate's mother is doctor?
Is this a reference to Sheryl?
>>143673022
Mirage can have Keith, Mikumo will have a King. Roid for Kaname.
>>143673022
Mirage is a loser. Mikumo will get Keith and Freyja will get Hayate. Maybe Chuck will pityfuck Mirage.
>>143673065
That's her plan to fuck him and his little brother. Brilliant. Mikumo is a goddess.
Subs when
>>143672278
Pairing them up in the movie would be awesome. I think with another year or two JUNNA will probably have better expression in her voice in addition to her already impressive pipes. This ED song gives me hope for that because she puts a bit of a growl on the second to last line which is different from the clean singing she's done so far. If she learns how to control that part of her voice better she'll be unstoppable.
>>143673223
Yes.
>>143672360
And stay dead, faggot.
>>143673372
He not even dead
>>143673372
Messer, go back to hell.
>>143673228
You're fired from Freyjafag club, bye.
>they still think any of the idols will end up with someone
>>143673489
It's the second cour, and they've already said big changes are coming. What else could it mean?
>>143673115
Yes, he talked a bit about his family in this episode.
>Keith's ikemen face stays unblemished
What the shit is this?
>be audio engineer
>see people complain about the music's mixing or something
>see completely different problems than they see
>>143673595
It's called wearing a helmet.
>>143673595
>thinking Kawamori would hurt his self insert's husbando
Anon please.
>>143673336
Yes. JUNNA just needs that expression to match her powerful pipes. Her voice is maturing though, and doing serious singing like this helps that. Her voice definetly sounds more developed from her earlier singing on youtube when she was around 12-13. She had the strong vocals back then too, but just missing something she gained now. So there is hope.
>>143673336
I also was to hear the cleaner versions of all the songs on Walkure Attack. It's hard to fully judge the ranges and pitches JUNNA is doing because of the bad quality of the songs.
>>143673650
so, whats problems?
I hate how they use/put makina`s voice
![[Ohys-Raws] Macross Delta - 14 (MX 1280x720 x264 AAC).mp4_snapshot_16.15_[2016.07.03_12.08.53].png](https://i.imgur.com/0KQpcjT.jpg "[Ohys-Raws] Macross Delta - 14 (MX 1280x720 x264 AAC).mp4 snapshot 16.15 [2016.07.03 12.08.53]")
>>143672360
Why the fuck did they strip?
AND WHY THE FUCK WASN'T THE ZENTRADI DOING THE MANUAL LABOR?!
>>143673047
>>143672953
>>143672903
>>143672902
Alright, I'll get right on it
>>143673535
>What else could it mean?
Something actually plot related instead of retarded shipping bullshit?
>>143674985
>AND WHY THE FUCK WASN'T THE ZENTRADI DOING THE MANUAL LABOR?!
>>143674985
Must breed
>>143674985
Why didn't they jump down?
Why were they even holding each other down? If it was a lever, you need anchoring. But a fucking wheel?
>>143675170
Knife ears should be picking cotton to rebuild the earth
>>143674985
>Why the fuck did they strip?
They used their clothes as a counter weight to push off against to move. Apparently Chaos uniforms are very heavy, maybe they're armored against projectiles/shrapnel or something.More likely nobody on the writing staff cared about the physics involved
>>143675203
>But a fucking wheel?
Of course he needs to be anchored in some way to turn it. That doesn't magically change because it's rotary motion instead of linear motion.
HOW THE FUCK CAN SHE SURVIVE IN OUTER SPACE WITHOUT A SPACE SUIT?
PLEASE DON'T ANSWER SHINPI
>>143675690_______________SHINPI_____________________
>>143675690
confirmed for PROTODERUBIN
>>143675690
SPACE TUNA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uOUANiJw-Zs
>>143674985
Kawamori must have gotten high and watched Gravity.
>>143675690
Serious answer. Can't you see the she's against a window, floating naked in zero g?
>>143673650
Audio engineer kun. Please explain to everyone the mastery of Love! Halation THE WAR. It's really underrated.
>>143675690
They literally foreshadowed this.
>>143676019
It's a bit tricky but she was clearly outside the hatch (not window) in the first few shots
>>143676070
Space tuna? Hikaru killed her mother in the first macross?
>>143676118
the fish died by getting folded into outer space
Hikaru just ate it
>>143676070
We can definitely see her tail fin in her hair. Tuna daughteru confirmed!
>>143676070
>500x719
>tumblr
>>143676815
high quality shinpi
>>143675690
Her mother already did this.
>>143676860
>>143676860
>>143676906
I still hate her after all of these years.
Subs when
>>143676960
Late because the translator went to AX. Not too surprising figuring Kawamori himself was there
>>143676951
why do you dislike best girlSIVILUUU
>>143676994
>yfw GG becomes the offical subs for delta
>>143677018
Being best girl in 7 is like being best boy in K-on.
The one thing good about her is that she has a pair of tits. Well, I'm sorry, that's not gonna get you very far alone on the competetive market that is good girls in anime
>>143677163
YOU TAKE THAT BACK
>>143677163
Yeah, we all know who the real best girl is.
>>143677163
Emilia is best girl in 7 so you're wrong
>>143677454
oh right, I forgot about the galaxy is calling me. Emilia is light years ahead of Sivil. Actually we have Millia too. And all of the bridge bunnies. Fuck. Sivil doesn't even fit in on the top half
In Mikumo's dream
>>143677660
SRX?!
>>143677660
In the preview
>>143677693
>>143677660
The title for the next episode is Parting Resolution. It might be referring to the flashback.
>>143677688
Do you mean Banpreios?
>>143677660
Is that her shrine/home?
>>143677756
Could be. Episode 13's title probably had most people thinking it'd be diving under water, not that Freyja would go sky diving without a parachute
>>143677951
She is singing from this place at something that looks like Sigur Valens.
>>143677982
Not the Sigur Valens, that super structure that was hidden in fold space on Ragna.. whatever's docked to it looks smaller than the Sigur Valens?
>>143677756
This episode had some dialouge that Xaos had found a new sponsor via Lady M, and that their new mission would be to deliver the refugee's safely. So there's also likely going to be that Elysion takes off to do just that.
ED starts with support error in VF-31J.
>>143678133
>>143678242
What number windows do we have here then?
>>143678348
I think that one number I've seen on Freyja's profile during auditions.
>>143678242
Then the ED leads to Freyja and Hayate
>>143678503
Mirage
>>143678563
Hayate's Delta Five
>>143678678
Messer and Arad
Ever since I downloaded the album, I've listened to it so many times, for the past week that as i've been waking up i'm hearing one of the songs in my head, and now i'm already hearing the new ED in my head as I woke up. halp
>>143676951
It's probably because you're a terrible person
>>143678834
Reina/Makina/Chuck
>>143678242
>>143678428
So... Freyja supports Hayate, so that he downs Bogue, and Keith... and the new ED is referencing this... and its giving us "No support" errors... hmmm
So, do you think YUNNA will have a solid career in anime voice work? Or become a genuine j-pop artist?
>>143679063
She is even shinpi in the ED. I can't get abetter shot of her.
>>143678133
Delight?
>>143679163
Delight choice doubt despair sorrow, perplexity, calm failure
>>143679094
The last shot from the ED. Support works again.
>>143679123
Junna isn't doing any voice work. She asked specifically to only sing.
GIRI GIRI _____
>>143679249
So maybe the ED is a journey.. delta 05 going through a bunch of blue and orange loops, same color as their fold squiggles when they resonated, because for whatever reason they came to a point where they couldn't resonate, and at the end, they find it again.
>>143679306
It looks like a journey. Before the last shot you see every battles moments of the 1st cour.
>>143679280
MADE > AI
When the FUCK are we getting subs?
>>143679356
After Anime Expo.
>>143677374
Please marry me Gamilin.
>>143675690
PROTODEVLIN
>>143678076
New sponsor sounds like a I'M THE REAL BADDY.
this episode brings red Mirage's head
>>143679306
>>143679339
The destination is a GIANT Freyja. It's flying straight to her in the last scene.
>>143679807
>色男
You're one to talk
>>143679820
freyja confirmed ranka 2.0
>>143679820
IMA ANATA NO KOE GA KIKOERU
>>143679983
>>143680000
All Walkure are big, but Hayate plane chooses Freyja.
Mirage isn't even an option. You'll notice he flies alone, using the orange/blue symbolism of their resonance to Freyja after there's a question about his choice.
Why was Mirage even added? Do they need to shit on a girl as hard as Zessica?
ED reminds me of a more upbeat BLOODY STREAM
>>143680257
>Why was Mirage even added? Do they need to shit on a girl as hard as Zessica?
Sponsors ordered love triangle.
>>143680279
Looks like a waste of character when they could have made her do something more interesting than blush to Hayate.
>>143680336
Hey, it's cute and it keeps the shippers at bay. Besides, I'm pretty sure she's related to Lady M so she'll have her moment.
>little to no fanwork of Mirage x Hayate
Why? Do nips hate it?
>>143680466
At the moment she has a doujin with Hayate while Freyja is pleasing old men in her doujins.
>>143680580
Well, I know which of those I'd like to read.
>>143679714
Yes, that super vicious evil goal of letting the civilians off to safety
>>143679768
o
kay
>>143680257
I never saw acquarion. Was Zessica shat upon harder than Ranka?
Macrossworld was cool when Delta started but now they are a bunch if NUNs cocksuckers and still think Windermere bombed themselves.
>>143680580
Very little of all doujins that get made are scanned. Out of those that get scanned, very little except porn gets scanned. I don't really have to burst your bubble to tell you what the doujin scene really looks like, do I?
What's up with JUNNA fanwank?
>>143680883
>fanwank
?
>>143680580
>while Freyja is pleasing old men in her doujins
For apples?
>>143680788
Windermere are literally thinly foiled Zeon fanwank.
I will rather side with rogue Zentradi, than with Windershit.
>Freya fags being typical aggressive cunts
Oh yeah, knew there was a reason I stopped coming to these threads
>>143678133
So 877720 is Freyja's number.
873035 is whose?
>>143681016
>Scared miragefag
You're free to discuss your love for mirage's mirages with them instead of metaposting, you know.
>>143680743
When she was about to confess to Amata, we got "eh nandatte" moment,she got killed shortly afterwards,just to be revived/possessed by the big bad as "Zessykage", and in the end,Mr. "I will fight the destiny" ended up with Mikonoanyway. Bark Bark!
Britai waited. The lights above him blinked and sparked out of the air. There were microns in the base. He didn't see them, but had expected them now for years. His warnings to the others were not listenend to and now it was too late. Far too late for now, anyway.
Britai was a Zentraedi for fourteen years. When he was young he watched the spaceships and he said to dad "I want to be on the ships daddy."
Dad said "No! You will BE KILL BY MELTRANS"
There was a time when he believed him. Then as he got oldered she stopped. But now in the space station base of the Zentraedi he knew there were microns.
"This is deculture" the radio crackered. "You must fight the microns!"
So Britai gotted his Glaug and blew up the wall.
"HE GOING TO KILL US" said the microns
"I will shoot at him" said the SDF-1 and he fired the Daedalus Attack. Britai fired beams at him and tried to blew him up. But then they hyperspace folded and they were trapped and not able to kill.
"No! I must kill the microns" he shouted
The radio said "No, Britai. You are the microns"
And then Britai was an miclone.
>>143681016
Losers tend to be aggressive
Any room up? I'm craving some dogfighting to fill the time until gg delivers.
>>143678767
Do you scream "YAKH DECULTURE" as you wake up? If you don't you're no fun
http://pollit.me/303
Who's the best Walküre?
>>143681061
It can only be Hayate's. We only saw Freyja's and Hayate's numbers.
>>143680999
Freyja is a miracle
>>143681414
I tried to find his number but I can't.
>>143681451
I think it was during the 2nd ep.
>>143681451
>>143681605
I'm pretty sure it was only off by one digit from Freyjas
>>143681451
Can't find it, I only find Hayate's ID number.
>>143681782
>>143681451
you know what this means. It's Mirages number. They rebuild, delta 05, she flies it, resonates. The rest will be history. Yuri end confirmed. Sasuga Kawamori.
Does anyone like Kaname/Arad? Or Arad at all. I've only seen art of her with Messer and I'm confused (...not that confused because sure, Messer is the token stoic bishounen and of course he's popular. But of course I like the fun and likable, too-bara-for-fangirls (thus less popular) guy.)
What was the name of the missile dodging webgame which needs unity installed that an anon posted in the previous threads?
>>143672690
>no freyja only bokura no senjou
FUCK THIS GAY EARTH
So what storyboarding did Kawamori do in this episode?
>>143682270
>Does anyone like Kaname/Arad?
No on is drawing them, because there is nothing between them. Even Japan sees nothing.
Arad isn't popular in Japan for the same reason as in the West, because no one remembers what he does in the episode. Also not much people like his VF.
Messer is the only one close to shipping with Arad. Japan sometimes draw Arad with Messer.
What Japan ships in delta:
Hayate/Freyja
Bogue/Freyja
Makina/Reina
Keith/Roid
Messer/Kaname
Did anyone understand the postcredit scene? It seemed like it was supposed to be pretty important.
>>143682845
Which one?
>>143682874
Lloid's big reveal to Heinz.
>>143681377
>there are people voting for Kaname
Rigged.
>>143682845
He's questioning wether Heinz should follow in Gramia's footsteps as he perceived them to be, and then he tells Heinz that he has Gramia's will
MIRAGEFAGS ON SUICIDE WATCH
>>143683772
Why would us?
She's winning
>>143683896
>She's winning
She already won
>>143683896
>>143683917
Nice delusion
>>143683896
>>143683917
Win what? Messer is the one who won Hayate bowl.
>>143675690
I want to fuck her in front of that window in zero-g, while she's also singing, and somewhere in the background brass is being played.
So Mikumo is all but confirmed either Protoculture or Protodeviln at this point, right?
>>143682578
>because no one remembers what he does in the episode
I don't think he's been shown in combat at all except for that brief sequence in episode 6 against faceless varred NUNS pilot #276
>>143675690
She's Basara x Sivils daughter, staying outside in space is easy. >>143676860
>>143680927
Retarded comparision. Zeon weren't misguided victims.
>>143684746
Windemere lost their victim status when they decided on indiscriminate biological warfare and intentional targeting of civilians in a strategy of total system domination.
>>143680999
Never disappoints
>>143684543
I'd like this if only just because I want to hear an idol cover a Basara song.
>>143685025
I honestly don't expect any covers until well after the show is over. No serious ones anyway. They'll focus on their own music while its during it's high. Once its over, we'll get covers that frankly, are pretty much aimed at macross fans only anyway and particular diehards.
Why did she make face like this after Hayate eat Freyja's apple? She want to be spoon-feed by Freyja too?
>>143684746
I stopped considered them as victims when they decided to wage war to take control on the whole cluster.
>>143685311
WTF if the people who fucking colonized and oppressed you are literally a few hours away you would want them out!
Delta will end with chopping up territory of Bisingr between NUNs, Windemere and the other races. Windemere will keep its independence
>>143685257
She's just realised that apples > elf boobs
>>143684432
Not only this, Arad's the most interesting relationship was with Messer.
>>143672829
just watch robotech man, it's basically the complete addition added the fact that it's a classic you should be entertained till the end of days
WINDNIGGER GENOCIDE SOON
>The new ed
>>143684746
Maybe you just didn't watched the Unicorn.
>>143685388
Yeah because that totally justifies planning to use something like the Var as a weapon. I mean sending people into murderous
rages was bad enough but then they went for full blown mind control? Fuck how many of the people they claim to be liberating ended
up killing or being killed because Windyasscleft response to WINNING was to start dicking
with the Var.
Fuck knows im sure all those liberated people are super happy being free and protected by brainwashed friends n' family
on top of all the murder rampages.
>>143672829
>love idolshit
>doesn't start Macross at the original
Macross was the first idolshit anime.
>>143686218
While Zeonfags are bad ye Unicorn dialed the DIDNT DOOO NUFFIN! Upto 11.
>>143686218
If you just say Zeon the one that comes to mind is 0079's, the one that murdered millions of civilians, dropped a colony on earth and was lead by power hungry bastards.
My sides.
Why did Hayate and Mirage strip?
>Spiral
Yep, its Protoculture alright.
>>143686356
>Macross was the first idolshit anime
Original Macross had an idol in it and she has a big payoff at the end, but she is just another character in your standard sci fi anime.
Macross Delta is an idol show with a mecha motif/theme.
>>143686409
So which Zeon do you think DIDNT DO NUFFIN?
>Original Zeon?
>Neo Zeon?
>Neo Neo Zeon?
>Neo Zeon 2 Axis Boogaloo?
>Neo Neo Neo Zeon?
>Neo Neo Neo Neo Zeon?
>Neo Zeon 3 Ruled by a loli clone edition?
>Diet Zeon?
Let's be honest im sure with how many Zeon's exist we can find one that was only mildly evil.
Maybe?
>>143686499
>Macross Delta is an idol show with a mecha motif/theme.
Not really though.
Its a mecha show with idols, not an idol show with mecha.
>>143686474
Cheap fanservice
>>143686474
For the purpose of baby making.
If they hadn't been found, Mirage would have taken what she felt was hers.
>>143686524
I have to ask, since everything I couldn't make out, but did Hayate strip his shorts as well or was that his shirt?
>>143686436
oh, that's gold
>>143686355
You do know they use mind control to minimize casualties on both sides or did you ignore that. Fact is Windermere wants control not a bloodbath.
Also I still find it funny people still think Winderemere started the Var.
>>143686942
I would frankly prefer dying over being turned into a mindless slave.
Mikumo Theory:
She's the descendant of Sara Nome and Shin Kudo, who established some royal Mayan line on whatever planet the Bird-Human took them to. Hence why Gramia referenced King Whatever Mayan.
>>143672360
The Shinigami always reaps. Even if by proxy
>>143672513
To be fair, the protagonist himself put him in that place. Even if it was with OP Freyja-buffs.
>>143686997
Does it matter? They're clearly using it, and its usage results in deaths.
>>143686942
Yes because enslaving people and having them march around as murderous rage filled meat puppets everyday infront of their families
is going to make people so much happier than if you just kill em in a fight.
>>143686997
We know they didn't make it. We also know they happily set off numerous outbreaks using the naturally occuring ones as camo
for a weapon test before they declared war.
>>143687036
Mind control is completely reversible
>>143686942
>You want to be buddy with NUNs?
>Well, too bad!
>Long live Windermere!
>>143673019
Hayate's mother will be aformer idol, Sheryl Nome. Time dilation and relativity shenanigans are involved
>>143673289
[SHINPI INTENSIFIES]
We need a picture of Mikumo with her eyes wide open to make a "shaking gif".
This is Macross. It will end in a teamuo and a treaty will be signed between NUNs and Windermere. The parties who are manipulating the War will get their just deserts
>>143687110
>being dead is better than being mind controlled for a few months
The fuck. I'd choose mind control over death any day, and so would most people.
>>143687123
Yeah and im sure noone will end up fucked in the head from being made to fight and kill friends and allies against their will will right? No suicides?
No psychosis? Hell im sure they'll be totally fine with what Windermere did to them and totaly be happy because those
swell Wind guys chased away all those pesky NUNS assholes amirite?
>>143675170
But that's why they exist, if they're not fighting.
>>143687061
No. Just no. Shin and Sara are not getting revisited anymore than the Megaroad 1 is.
Mikumo is by all likelyhood a protoculture engineered singer, perhaps the originally intended controller for the Sigur Valens. Frozen in cryostasis (We have M30's Mina Forte as prescedent) and then found by someone, presumably Lady M. Like Mina Forte, she suffers from memory loss and doesn't really know what she is.
The phrase Rudanjal Rom Mayan is Windermerean language and means "In the name of the true King" Given that both windermereans and earthlings were created by the protoculture, its far more likely that the word 'Mayan' was part of ancient protoculture language or some such. The name is then used by the islanders on the Mayan island (They name their home after it) while, the Windermereans in ancient times create a royal line, with the word Mayan as part of their royal creed.
>>143687258
What part of War do you not get.
>>143686942
>You do know they use mind control to minimize casualties
Sure thing. They mind controlling innocent people and making them go into rampage to minimize casualties.
>>143687308
What part of they started doing it BEFORE declaring war do you not get?
>>143687323
Also the fact his guy needed to point out something as obvious as this too you?
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
>>143687177
His mother is a military surgeon. He said so this episode.
>>143687123
Don't care.
Death > servitude.
>>143685433
>elf boobs
But Mirage is a half-orc
>>143686942
>>143686997
>>143687251
Fuck off windfags apologizers
>>143687290
I'd just like to see the crossing there. Also, I assume it clarified the 'Rudanjal Rom Mayan' in ep 14 then?
>>143687363
What part of Al Shahal was a test run did you not get?
>>143687308
>We are at WAR with NUNS! Suck to be you, everybody else.
t. Windniggers
>>143687177
Hayate's mother was said to be a military doctor in the last episode. The perk of not needing subs
>>143687401
Nah we think what theyre wrong but we sympathize with their plight and see an actual effort to prevent full scale bloodbath.
>NUNfags and WIND apologists
Not even once.
>>143687404
No. It's clarified in the glossary on the official page. We had all of them translated just before we saw episode 13.
>>143687401
It's like Zeon liberating people with nerve gas all over again.
>>143687422
Again you cherrypick. They'd been doing it before Al Shahal. They did it multiple times before declaring war then switched to
brainwashing instead of murder rampages to "minimise casualties by making the NUNS guys kill each other instead of them.
Hell they started the whole "Spread the Var" thing almost as soon as they won the indy war.
>>143687455
Wait? Wut? Kawamori said that Mirage is bad at piloting because she didn't have a pilot genes because her father is doctor but Hayate's mom is a doctor too but he still good at using Valkyrie. Kawamori just bullying and made Mirage to be a jobber isn't it?
>>143687503
Okay, cool. I hadn't seen anything from a glossary or anything, so thanks for the clarification.
>>143687515
No Al Shahal was their first. This has been confirmed. Var existed as a Rage virus even before Winderemere weaponized it
>>143679807
W-why is Kaname climbing on Messah-kun in public?!
>>143687565
>Mirage is bad at piloting because she didn't have a pilot genes
That's not how genes work Kawamori
>>143687515
Nerve gas kills mind control doesnt
>>143673013
For someone overprotective he's been failing a lot lately.
>>143682999
It's Messah and his new jellyfish friends.
>>143687565
You know maybe he just made a joke, and maybe he's suggesting that piloting skill isn't hereditary
>>143687463
Somewhere deep down I hope that SMS gets contracted by old guard (Old UN), to bring the order to the sector and whip into shape EVERYBODY involved.
>>143687641
But people kill other people under the effect of the gas so the result is the same
>>143687258
Fucking retard, he's just saying that mind control is better than death is not that there's nothing wrong with mind controlling people and using them as janitors/soldiers.
>>143687617
Cuz she's drunk
>>143672360
The power of song will wake him up. POWER TO THE DREAM!!!
>>143685025
"Try Again", maybe?
>>143686436
Is that Chuck's imouto?
>>143687617
She is clinging to his ghost.
>>143687673
Yeah, he failed to rescue her in this episode.
>>143687641
Nerve gas kills your family and with mind control you kill your family. Same shit.
I realuzed that since the very first Macross Spacy/NUNs higher ups are portrayed in a negative light antagonistic to the heroes. It makes me wonder how many fans came to admire them. What did they to deserve all the admiration that the UN Spacy Kite is synonymous with Macross?
>>143687750
Yes.
>>143687680
Am I the only person who is sick of this PMC thing? I'd rather see the actual military, though I get that the character arcs they have now wouldn't survive if they were actual UNS.
>>143687835
Because NUNs and state Military is bad. Kawamori is anti state military.
>>143687811
It wasn't .We even really have NO idea why the UN Spacy became the New UN Spacy as mentionedi n Frontier (or rather, I don't know of anything written about it). The UN Spacy was pretty instrumental in getting Earth's shit back in order way back when, and it was a positive thing in at least 7. Between 7 and Frontier is where something happened and it was reorganized as NUNS.
>>143687802
>with mind control you kill your family
Fucking bullshit, are you even paying attention? Most mind controlled people are in stand by, they only engage in combat with non vared NUNS soldiers or Chaos pilots. Mind controlled people aren't aggressive per se, that's the difference between mind control var and regular var.
>>143687788
Couldn't save her in episode 10, couldn't stop Bogue or catch her in episode 13, couldn't grab her in this episode, etc.
This is going to be happening frequently isn't it?
>>143687880
Lol UN Spacy pulled shit that got the Earth glassed. Grand Cannon anyone? They were asses to Global when Macross returned
>>143687374
>>143687455
My fault for not knowing moonrunes.
>>143687911
And thats why there are hints that Var is more than just a rage virus or mindcontrol device. Messer certainly controlled it before he dued with pisitive results.
>>143688004
Too bad Windermere only uses it for rage virus and mind control then isn't it.
>>143687811
There has not been a single macross where part of NUNS weren't bad or shady
>Original macross: everyone not on the macross is a complete douche
>Plus: they develop an illegal AI ghost drone that when set loose by another illegal AI goes on a rampage
>7: they send 7 fleet to die on multiple occasions
Zero: They fuck up the peaceful islanders place just as much as Anti NUN
>Frontier: everything having to do with Leon
I'm not saying all of NUNS is bad all of time, but it strikes me as rather weird when people expect them to be poster boys in Delta for no reason
>>143687928
Foreshadowing?
>>143687880
Check out the information on VF-X2 that's online.
>>143687940
Actually, what got the Earth Glasses was actually Max and Milia's wedding. It's the straw that broke the camel's back and made Bodol zer decide to exterminate earth along with Britais fleet.
I want to have anal sex with Kaname and cuddle afterwards.
>>143688122
Messah-kun., you're already dead.
>>143687880
>We even really have NO idea why the UN Spacy became the New UN Spacy
We do.
A rebellion of sorts happened involving one of the colony fleets, and the result of it was UN Spacy restructured into NUNS and the administration system is changed.
What came with the restructuring was giving more autonomous authority to the colonies, allowing them to make more decisions on their own as opposed them calling home for approval, which is why Frontier could just use reaction weaponry when they want to while 7 had to phone home to get approval.
Colonies are more independent under NUNS, and they are effectively independent states ruled by their own people.
In the UNS system, shit like Earth HQ ordering Macross 7 to fucking Macross Cannon a rogue meltradi fleet happens. Earth HQ also told Macross 7 to fucking deal with the Protodevlin on their own.
In the NUNS system, Earth HQ leaves it to the colonies to deal with whatever threat they face, no calling home needed if they make the decision to nuke the aliens.
In fact, under NUNS the widespread fame of the Jenius family would actually be somewhat possible, since the leaders of the colonies are pretty much the head of state of the colonies they are in, its like being the president of a country.
>>143687880
>We even really have NO idea why the UN Spacy became the New UN Spacy.
Yeah it's not like they made an entire game that explains that or anything.
>>143688047
The Ghost drone wasn't illegal at that point; was it? It was a prototype unmanned fighter, like the YF-21 and YF-19 were prototype manned fighters. I thought the AI was illegal after Sharon's insanity, which is why the limiters were on it in Frontier?
>>143688064
I'll look into that, thanks!
>>143688207
Awesome, the restructuring wasn't explained that I could recall in a series episode, but it's been a while since I watched 7 and Frontier.
>Creator Shoji Kawamori has stated (interview from Otona Anime magazine #9) the New U.N. is a newly organized and decentralized government of the human colony fleets and colony worlds. Kawamori states that Earth is no longer able to directly control the hundreds of colony world and fleets given the vast interstellar distances involved. This change in government was not a coup or revolution, but a realigning of the galaxy at large. Thus U.N. colonies and fleets became self-governing but belong to the New United Nations as members.
The explanation on NUNS in Macross Compendium.
>>143687928
I remember the same happened with Alto and Ranka. By the second half it was Brera doing the rescuing.
>>143688033
Literally not watching the show. The only time it was used as a rage virus was episode 1
>>143688409
The one who rescue Freyja in episode 13 is Mirage. Yuri end confirmed?
>>143688394
They definitely still acted like they owned Ragna. Valan was getting irders from Earth
>>143688394
I wonder if some of the Macross fleets just outright kept the old stuff, still using the old roundel and having UN SPACY on their VFs rather than NUNS.
>>143688532
I told you the triangle has Freyja as the primary angle.
>>143688532
>>143688755
I think the triangle would work better if Mirage was a guy. But then it would feel more or less like a rehash of 7's. I could imagine male Mirage and Hayate getting tons of fanarts by the fujos.
>>143688467
Literally ignoring background. They were spreading tainted Apples right after the Indy war ended.
They used it before the series started using natural Var outbreaks as cover to test it then moved onto mind control later.
Also thanks for bringing up the first episode when brave Windermere Knights launched a suprise attack on a city using Var in it's
rage virus mode to ensure they could make a run on assassinating a bunch of Idols at a concert before they declare war.
Truely men of honor and courage those Windermere folk.
>all these discussion
>tho most important question still unanswered
I know the subs are going to be late cause gg is going to some shitty anime expo IE some autistic cosplay event, but HOW FUCKING LATE ARE THEY GONNA BE?
>>143688824
If you want them faster i guess you'll have to translate them then.
Have fun with that.
>>143688815
There goal wasnt to kill Walkure that was just Bogue. Also they spread the apples made people more suseptible but unless its the Wind Song they are not directly responsible for any outbreak.
>>143688946
And we are supposed to get a reason for why Bogue hates Walkure and songs so much. I saw some Japanese twitter users speculate if maybe NUNS used songs against Windermere during the war, maybe they tried to mess up with their runes via singers with fold receptors. They are supposed to be a race of natural fighters.
>>143688812
>male Mirage
Will he become a best girl of the show like Gamlin?
>>143688573
>They definitely still acted like they owned Ragna.
Well, the authority for the colonies is with the leaders of the colonies, not the PMCs they hired.
Chaos works under orders from Lady M, who is presumably one of the more influential people in the sector, possibly one of the leaders, and she isn't there.
Lady M negotiated for some time anyway.
>>143676070
that's not what "literally" means
People being this hungry for subs reminds me of pre-HS days
hayate = nice boat
>>143672690
>Gigli Tick Beginner
>2%
This is easily the worst song on the album and probably the only one I remove from playlists when listening
>>143688946
>Also they spread the apples made people more suseptible.
>but unless its the Wind Song they are not directly responsible for any outbreak.
Wow. Just wow.
You just said Windermere intentionally spread the Var but they arn't responsible for it going off without the song even though they know
it can do so on it's own during peacetime. If they spread it they are directly responsible for any Var outbreak that action causes
regardless of the Song being used because those people wouldent have been infected with Var if it
WASNT FOR THEM SPREADING TAINTED FOOD AND WATER DURING PEACETIME IN THE FIRST PLACE!
You just keep making Windermere look more and more evil everytime you defend them.
Just stop.
>>143689083
The Ragnans have their iwn leaders. Ragna is supposed to bw indeoebdent yet NUNs sent someone from central to lord over tge Ragnan people.
>>143689397
for what purpose?
>>143689405
They didnt spread the Var they just made a situation where the military would be more suseptible to it.
Just got caught up on this show.
I might be missing something but did they ever explain who "Lady M" is? I thought they meant Mikumo at first but it was obviously referring to someone else.
>>143689397
u avin a giggle m8
Windermere is America. NUNs 9/11 them and its time to retaliate. If you support Americas revenge war then you can accept Windermeres revenge war. Protip I dont sipport either but just putting things into perspective.
>>143689673
Windemere is Imperial Japan.
>>143689556
You cannot be this stupid.
They were selling those fucking apples all over the place not just to the military. So yes they did spread the rage virus all over the
fucking joint knowing it could turn on all by itself.
Looks like it's you who needs to watch the fucking show.
>>143689397
Oh sexy
>>143689673
>Windermere is America
Now you just went full retarded.
Never go full retarded!
>>143689673
Windermere is North Korea.
>>143689720
No their primary target is the military but its inevitable some will end up to civilians. Did you civilians in Voldor mind controlled? After the conquest of Al Shahal the civilian populace was back to normal too. Most likely non military affected by the Var a released from the mind control.
>>143689749
How is it different? In their vuew tgey were hit by something the equivelent of 9/11 and are angered and are attacking. America hunting terrorists with little care for civilians are caught I the crossfire.
>>143689889
Just stop.
>>143690032
Why tell me how different it is? Both America and Winderemere felt justified in retaliating against an agressor who attacked them and threatened their security. Their revenge warpath led to displacement and deaths of many innocent people in the name of justice.
>>143688815
What if the apples aren't tainted, but like that naturally? Windermereans all have fold receptors via their rune's so their diet producing a lot of substance that makes fold bacteria go bonkers don't matter to them
>>143689385
It's fun for us who into the language. It's a verbal splurge that's fun to listen to
>>143687149
>Long live Windermere!
>>143689570
She's the head of Xaos. We don't know more than that.
>>143689483
>Ragna is supposed to bw indeoebdent yet NUNs sent someone from central to lord over tge Ragnan people
One, that guy is dealing with Chaos at the time, a fucking PMC that has no say in how they govern the people.
Two, as far as we fucking know, Chaos is taking care of the military side of shit while the local folks there deal with the rest. The shit they did was purely military.
Three, they called for help, and the help actually arrived(In the form of the cunt that nuked the ruins), telling the very help they asked for to fuck off when it arrives is retarded, and we haven't even gone into the whole help-almost-never-comes-when-Macross-colonies-asks-for-help thing.
>"We're going to nuke the ruins since the Windies are coming for the ruins"
>"But the planet and the civilians!"
>"Yeah, we got the people to evacuate already."
How is that lording over the people?
The guy had his own motives, but he wasn't lording over the people there.
They needed military help, it arrived, and the help said they are going to nuke the things the enemy is coming for and got the civilians to start evacuating already, and the PMC does not have the authority to tell them to fuck off anyway, the authority is presumably with Lady M.
>>143690520
Oh okay, so it actually is a mystery? I'm thinking the "M" might stand for "Music" and it might be a cameo from an old Macross or something.
>>143690551
>Military help
what help? Arad even comments they havent even lifted a finger to help. They detonate a bomb, kill a lot of allies, and fuck right off with their 'help'
>>143690551
No Im not talking about Xsos Im talking about the fucking Ragnan people tge natives. Some humans decide to endanger tge homeworld of these people. Xaos is not in charge its the Ragnans. I doubt that they would agree to any plan that has a chance of completley wrecking their planet
>>143690594
There's a lot of older macross characters whose name begins with M. It sends the fans speculating. I don't think it'll be neccessarily revealed because frankly, it doesn't need to. Bilhrer in Frontier didn't add much after he was revealed
>>143690551
What help? It was all part of an experiment.
>>143690551
He didnt offer any help in the evacuation. He used the conflict as pretext to run his experiment. Something tells me the same thing happened in Windermere 7 years ago.
Apparently Valan wasnt mustache twirling enough. Sone people cant take a hint.
>>143690336
Doesn't matter they know what it does and that it can do it all on it's own they spread it intentionally anyway.
If you know a plant is poisonous but sell it as food anyway does that make you innocent when someone dies?
>>143689817
They intentionally spread a contagion in civilian markets just because they didn't brainwash the civilians doesn't mean the Var they're now infected with thanks to Windermere can't activate on it's own.
So yes Windermere spreading it is by modern standards a war crime.
They know what Var does.
They know it can go rage virus on it's own.
They spread it knowing it would infect more than just the military. Any Var outbreak even accidental ones caused by
those Apples is Windermeres responsiblity because it would have never happened if they didn't use them as bio weapons.
>After the conquest of Al Shahal the civilian populace was back to normal too. Most likely non military affected by the Var a released from the mind control.
Yes and im sure it won't happen again if they try to tell Windermere to fuck off right?
>>143689673
Windermere is space Belka.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NkOcCV2SeMI
>>143690954
No they wish they were Belka.
Windermere is North Korea.
>>143691009
>North Korea's leader is a fatass manchild
>Windermere's leader is a cute trap shota
You wish.
Largest NUNsfags always are from Mcrossworld
>>143691054
Maybe
Guys
Maybe Windermere isRussia
>>143691075
Could we get that again in english?
>>143691114
They don't drink Vodka while flying and Freyja doesn't squat so i doubt it.
It's episode four, NUNS keeps getting shadier and shadier while Windermere keeps being shown as victims turned into agressors and some people are still in denial.
>>143691295
fourteen*
>>143672522
SHOT THROUGH THE HEART, AND YOU'RE TO BLAME
>>143691167
They are just as stubborn with their "GET OUT OF !OUR! TURF REEEEEEEEEE"
It's not like we need to make monoliths out everything. X is all that, Y is all this. Windermere for instance, we only really have ground for criticising the nobility and royalty. NUNS, it seems to be a specific sub faction of high officials. I'm pretty sure the pilots who murdered by the detonation of the bomb, hadn't actually agreed to be murdered by the detonation of the bomb. Nor do Windermerean commoner have any idea of what the fuck is going, as revealed by Freyja when she berrates their use the fruits of labor of said commoners.
>>143676815
>invisible chair
>>143691542
>ANIMA SPIRITA chair
FIFY
>>143691450
>we only really have ground for criticising the nobility and royalty
What the hell did the nobility do to deserve criticism? The only ones in charge here (and thus responsible for Windermere actions) are the King and Roid.
>>143691626
It's little Heinz who's gotten it the worst his dad and Roid have turned him into a mass murder and a mass enslaver before he even
hit puberty by the looks of him.
Roid being worried for the prince at this point comes off as way to little way to late personally.
Subs when?
>>143675690
>it's a best girl episode
>>143692022
If you learned japanese, you won't need subs.If you learned chinese, the wait for subs is minimal.
>>143689817
>No their primary target is the military
It doesn't fucking matter. They are spreading VIRUS. It's fucking biological weapon. Its usage should be banned everywhere.
They can't guarantee that civilians won't get infected with their apples. And even if they could they can't guarantee that any military won't go Var on his own due to some strong stress and starts killing civilians.
>>143692093
Go back to Animesuki.
>>143692153
Go back to Robotechx.
HEY GAIS
>>143691295
>victims turned into agressors
What? What exactly did NUN do to them that justify an aggressive war? To justify spreading Var, mind control, civilian deaths and suffering. President of Cat planet explicitly stated they were happy with NUN.
Also we still don't know who nuked Winderemere. But even if it was NUNS then this war is just a pathetic revenge attempt. They are not victims, they are just unreasonable aggressors.
>>143692153
Typical response from degenerative windfaggot. You're too stupid to understand why windermerians are wrong and too stupid to state a single argument to defend their actions. So your common response is to send people to place which you came from just few months ago.
Just kill yourself.
>>143692621
Fuck off NUNSfag, you're the cancer ruining these threads with your retarded and nonsensical arguments.
>>143691626
They're in on the whole scheme. The knights
>>143691784
he's 9, so yes
>>143692867
The Knights aren't nobility. Anyone can become one. Cassim is a peasant and the twins come from a merchant family; the only confirmed noble there is Bogue and he gets asked what the hell is he doing there (just like Keith).
>>143692747
Fuck off windnigger, you are going to get Arc Lighted
>>143691114
Windermerians lie too, but not as much as Russians.
>>143692867
Even if the Knights were nobility (they aren't) everyone else has nothing to do with the war. Do you think people like Bogue's sisters have any say in politics? They don't, this is a monarchy, not a democracy.
>>143692747
>NUNSfag
No, you're the real cancer. With your complete lack of brains you can't even imagine that someone might detest windniggers and at the same time not support NUNS as well. Also >>143692093 is a completely valid argument with detailed explanations.
You talk about ruining threads when you're probably author of this post >>143257171. A cancerous piece of shit who brings animesuki and MW faggotry into almost every fucking thread.
These discussions would be perfectly fine if not for memeitc brain dead idiots like you who can't make a single argument. If you want to see posts only about your waifu go to >>>/c/
>>143692954
Bogue is super nobility.
>>143693085
>>143692954
fine, not nobility, knights specifically.
>>143693101
We know it's you, the autistic retarded NUNSfag, you are so easily recognizable it's not even funny. Stop trying so hard.
Also it's hilarious that you accuse others of not making arguments when yours are pants on head retarded and proved wrong every single time. Kill yourself cancer.
>>143693254
>NUNSfag
Yeap, complete lack of brains. Also I like that you didn't even try to refute my statement about you being animesuki/MW cancer.
Also try proving wrong >>143692093.
>>143693398
>fucking retard spends weeks autistictically defending that NUNS did nothing wrong 7 years ago and that Windermere nuked itself when it makes zero sense and goes against everything we've learned about them
>baaaw why are you calling me a NUNSfag
End your life, waste of oxygen.
And not, I'm, not the one animesukifag, he's a retard too, but so are you.
>What's going on in this thre-
Jesus christ.
>>143693725
>spends weeks autistictically defending that NUNS did nothing wrong 7 years ago and that Windermere
How new are you to anonymous imgeboards? Are you really trying to say that everyone who is against Windermere is the same random anon (and it actually could be more than one person) who caused you sever butthurt some time ago?
It's really hard for you here without names and avatars. Just go back to your anime forums.
>>143672360
Where the fuck are the subs already?
>>143694053
GG at animu convention or something.
If you want sub's you'll have to make em yourself.
>>143694123
>bland faces.
>terrible anatomy.
2/10 Not even worth clicking on.
>>143694053
Even when delayed they come out only during specific time of the day.
www.tokyotosho.info/search.php?terms=macross+gg&type=0&size_min=&size_max=&username=
It's minimum 22:35 UTC and maximum 09:00 UTC. So it's at least 5 more hours,at worst 3 days.
>>143693940
>Are you really trying to say that everyone who is against Windermere is the same random anon
No, fucking retard, but when you use the same exact speech patterns, arguments, tone and wording every time people will start recognizing you. But keep trying, you're totally not the autistic NUNSfag, sure.
>>143694227
Fuck off, retard. Guess who ruined this thread?
>>143694285
You, like always.
Stop giving him (you)s please, just ignore him.
Most people realize it's not a simple black and white situation. And that blame lies with specific subgroups in each faction, like >>143691450 was alluding to. Hell even that guy was corrected on his use of the word nobility. Everyone laying the entire blame on either Winderemere side or Earth-side, are either pushing memes or among the very flustered faggots intent on "discussing" it. Most everyone realizes the above, and so has no interest in the 'discussion'
>>143694552
>Hell even that guy was corrected on his use of the word nobility
No, he is not. Knights aren't nobility.
>>143694594
Bruh. Seriously. Reading comprehension bruh. What do you think the sentence you just greentexted actually means?
>>143693101
>linking a post from 10 days ago
>>143694205
They're not that bad
same group who made theses ones
http://exhentai.org/tag/group%3Aneko+to+hato
>>143680999
MIRAGE IS LOVE MIRAGE IS LIFE
>>143695266
They are not even trying
>>143695266
All her expressions look the same
>MIRAGE IS LOVE
>MIRAGE IS LIFE
What do you mean by this?
>>143695266
This isn't fun when most pics look the same. Make one with the few flustered Mirage faces and will be 10/10.
>>143685575
HARMONY GOLD GET OUT
>>143695266
>none of her being cute in the OP
>>143695266
What I learned from this post: Mirage looks like she has a stick up her ass and she can't get it out 99.9% of the time
L-lewd.
>>143695266
Wow anon, that is some real dedication for a secondary character
>>143695833
Jesus Bogue is the number one target for runeboner pics huhI approve
>>143688047
>but it strikes me as rather weird when people expect them to be poster boys in Delta for no reason
NUNfags apologists aren't people, they are retards who live in some parallel dimension where they have been portrayed as good.
Don't forget:
>Frontier movies: their sole role aside of Leon being even more evil is arrive when the plot was solved and try to kill the Vajra Queen and Alto, making Sheryl faint and fall into a coma
Or
Macross 30: Ushio Todo, the villain, is a NUN central office goverment higher up who wants to fuck up the entire timeline.
>>143695266
Hey. Finally. You got your shit together and made a mirage chart.
>pachi pachi
I'm expecting you to keep this up every episode now. Good work.
>>143690828
Funny because it's what this episode implies.
>>143692503
> President of Cat planet explicitly stated they were happy with NUN.
Please give me this screencap. You seem to make shit up.
NUNS are going to order the sorty of children, including 9-8 years old Bogue, into a fucking combat a Zentraedi fleet. How the fuck can you say that's not evil or warranted them to rebel against them? They are forcing their children to become child soldiers to do their dirty jobs.
![[gg]_Macross_Delta_-_07_[9517309F].mkv_snapshot_10.22_[2016.07.04_21.27.38].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/hIGRc4K.jpg "[gg] Macross Delta - 07 [9517309F].mkv snapshot 10.22 [2016.07.04 21.27.38]")
>>143696400
>>143696451
Kyute.
Can someone make a mikumo chart? That way my three favourite girls are covered
>>143696488
Doesn't say they are happy. They just said it's not as bad.
>>143696451
Why am I a Freyjafag? Watch the OP and there's this adorable part where Mirage cuddles a merkitty in her bed and it melts my heart.
Why do you love Mikumo-sama /a/?
>>143696179
It was SMS and NUNS combined fleet. If you pause right before all Macrosses shoot Varja queen you will see SMS markings. Guess who called SMS help?
Also
>Leon. Wanted to kill Varja queen and land Frontier on Varja planet. Evil
>President. Wanted to kill Varja queen and land Frontier on Varja planet. Somehow good.
>Bilrer. Wanted to kill Varja queen and land Frontier on Varja planet. Somehow good.
>Fucking Alto. Learned about their plans to kill Varja queen and land Frontier on Varja planet. Agreed to help them and was killing Vajra left and right. Somehow good.
Leon was bad in TV because he assassinated president and was a typical cut-throat politician guy. But that subplot was dropped in movies.
>>143696578
Which one? I skipped these parts because of the annoying text.
>>143696578
That's the opening though. Can't really use it, since the chart is 5 faces from each episode. Mirage is straight faced a whole lot of time, hence the chart has a lot of similiar looking ones. I still like 'em though.
>>143696629
Sexiest character design in the show. Strong willed and confident to a fault, a little bit haughty. Actually seems to have a bit of corny side to her, if ever so slightly. Like when Freyja goes sky diving, she exceeds her expectations and I get the feeling she's giving it her all not to get a goofy smile on her face.
Oh and Shinpi as fuck. Hot damn.
>>143696897
wait, nvm, wrong chart.
![[gg]_Macross_Delta_-_07_[9517309F].mkv_snapshot_10.38_[2016.07.04_21.35.40].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/UTNsuiT.jpg "[gg] Macross Delta - 07 [9517309F].mkv snapshot 10.38 [2016.07.04 21.35.40]")
>>143696562
It's just soft politician talk. He can't just say "fuck off" to aggressors controlling his planet.
Even if cat people were not 100% happy with NUNG they are definitely less happier with Windermerian actions.
>>143696756
Clean OPs in BDs soon.
anyone have the mirage boobrub webm?
>>143696509
I'll do it, but not today after these
>>143696451
>>143695266
>>143696938
>He can't just say "fuck off" to aggressors controlling his planet.
Where have I seen this before...
I bet this is how things were 7 years ago: Windermere wanted NUNS to fuck off from their planet but they lacked the resources to do it and knew that NUNS would use their army to stop them if they ever tried to break the agreement, because Windermere pilots are god tier soldiers and NUNS wanted them to fight their fights, and it wasn't until ISIS offered them their help and Drakens that they were able to turn against NUNS.
And thus, the cycle of abuse is repeated and victims become the oppressors.
>>143696629
because she's mysterious
>>143696709
>Guess who called SMS help?
Didn't they call both SMS and central NUNS trying to get anybody willing and able to show up? In any case I don't really think the fleet can be blamed for firing on the queen given the information at hand when they fire.
>>143696897
>and confident to a fault, a little bit haughty.
I don't get this from Mikumo at all. She's confident but in a good way, like her confidence rubs off on her peers and helps them feel safer. When has her confidence ever seemed like a bad thing? She doesn't really act smug or uppity.
>>143695266
>MirageCollage.jpg
>>143697546
She really is the prettiest of the lot. I still want 5 face per ep chart too. The joke that all her faces look the same would be even stronger for a Mikumo than Mirage I think.
>>143697689
Those are all good things, anon. Both my kokoro and muh dick think they're real good.
i didn't even watch the show yet I'm listening to all the songs on repeat. Why do they have to be so goddamn catchy.I guess I should watch it now
>>143697967
Let us know what your impressions of scenes are where they're using songs you've liked. There's a few big moment songs.
>>143697967
You don't have to anon.I still haven't watched K-On even though I listen to their albums.
>>143697967
Which one is your favorite?
>>143696709
>>143697638
It doesn't matter they aren't at fault, but they are cast as antagonists who shat on the protagonist's efforts and UNDERSTANDING. It's like Kawamori wanted to show that shit couldn't be solved by firing a cannon (what he regretted the most of DYRL ending) instead it was solved by Alto dancing to Ranka's and Sheryl's song.
It was Kawamori showing those who used violence, regardless of their intentions, are on the wrong and turned a happy ending into a bittersweet one.
>>143696470
t. windnigger
>>143696470
Nobody is saying that.
>>143698098
>t. windnigger
You're retarded. Nobody has to approve what they are doing now. I'll rather have them destroy the central office of NUN than attack other innocent planets.
>>143697561
>Every faction in Africa calls themselves by these noble names - Liberation this, Patriotic that, Democratic Republic of something-or-other... I guess they can't own up to what they usually are: the Federation of Worse Oppressors Than the Last Bunch of Oppressors. Often, the most barbaric atrocities occur when both combatants proclaim themselves Freedom Fighters
Apparently the entire ED animation was done by a single person. I thought it was a little underwhelming at first, but now I'm impressed.
>>143698073
>they are cast as antagonists
So by "they" you mean SMS? But Alto and Ozma were members of SMS too. Who are the good guys then?
Your understanding of UNDERSTANDING is completely wrong.
>>143698285
I'm sure they thought the same of those fuckers who tried to make America independent. That's written by the winners who are colonialists forces, idiot. History revises that depends who wins.
>>143698259
You will beg to us for bomb the Windermere back into the stone age
>>143698073
I agree with you in terms of the thematic purpose of the scene, I'm just saying it does not (nor do I think it was intended to) reflect badly on NUNS or SMS beyond the extend that a statement that war is counterproductive necessarily reflects badly on military organizations in general.
Frontier did a lot more shitting on corrupt civilian government than it did on the Spacey.
>>143698321
They it's "whoever shot the guns" at Alto. Read Kawamori's interview about his regrets of DYRL, he regrets portraying that solution (shooting the enemy). That is a call back to show shooting your guns is never going to solve shit and in fact, makes shit worse. While culture saves the day.
>>143698285
That's nice and all but it has nothing to do with Delta.
>>143698438
It reflects badly on the NUNS that their major named character is Leon. Look at the representation.
>>143698061
Hard to say, but my favorites so far are giri giri ai, giri giri made, and WOWOW. Maybe it'll change after watching the anime
![[Ohys-Raws] Macross Delta - 14 (MX 1280x720 x264 AAC).mp4_snapshot_06.24_[2016.07.04_18.23.31].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/ORR9Jis.jpg "[Ohys-Raws] Macross Delta - 14 (MX 1280x720 x264 AAC).mp4 snapshot 06.24 [2016.07.04 18.23.31]")
>>143698416
No one will beg to you for anything, you guys are moustache twirling villains this time.
>>143698550
Good, good.
>>143698510
Oh wait he was military wasn't he. It's been awhile since I watched Frontier.
>>143698452
>the germans are killing everything in sight, besieged Leningrad and are almost in Moscow
>m-maybe we should talk to them
peacefags need a dose of reality
>>143698312
Ishikawa you madman
>>143698720
Why are you watching Macross if you hate Kawamori's philosophy? You're only in for disappointment when Delta delivers the understanding end.
>>143698452
I read it. He had to use fight in DYRL because he needed some action. But if he regretted it so much why would he repeat it again? He already got shitton of action in the end of Sayonara no Tsubasa. He didn't need to antagonize usage of weapons or anything in the last scene because he already did it, that was the whole point and buldup of the final fight. In terms of weapons vsUNDERSTANDING the ones who were wrong were Frontier fleet and Alto himself who was killing Vajra too.
SMS and NUNS fleet just added a bittersweet ending, nothing else.
>>143696470
That's a lie. It wasn't even implied anywhere that Bogue would fight Zentradi ship.
>>143698842
>implying I watch it
>>143698510
But everyone was bad, not only Leon >>143696709.
>>143698720
Anime is exaggerated anon, but we could have tried talking with them 20 years before that happened and it might never have reached that point.
>stay up late, no subs
>get up early, no subs
>lie down again in despair
>dream that I'm seated on a train in Japan, being mocked and scorned by the natives
Time to die.
>>143699627
translator is at a big anime convention that was even guested by Kawamori himself. It's given that the subs this time is gonna be late
>>143699930
Also today is American national holiday of some sort. And since he is a huge faggot he is probably going to spend the whole day on some kind of gay party sucking people's dicks.
I expect subs only tomorrow.
>>143700102
Maybe he can suck and translate the script simultaneously.
>>143699930
>translator is at a big anime convention that was even guested by Kawamori himself.
meanwhile Yen Press is going all FBI on every TLs
>>143681377
>nobody voting for green
Fuck you all
THERES A FREEDOM IN GA-LA-XY
I wanna watch this, but I got a question.
So is Macross like Symphogear where I need to watch the previous seasons/series before the current one, or are they all only loosely connected through name?
I mean, I'll still probably watch all of them since I have nothing else to do, but if there's an intended viewing order, I don't want to miss out on any potential references/callbacks to previous seasons.
>>143703651
>I don't want to miss out on any potential references/callbacks to previous seasons.
Nothing that lurking the threads won't spoil for you.
>>143703651Messer didnt die btw
>>143703651
More loosely connected.
If you want the backstory but don't want to sit through 100 hours of episodes, just watch the film versions of the old series. They're better anyway.
>>143703736
I watched only Frontier. But now thanks to these threads I know plot, characters and songs of all other entries.
>>143703887
Official site also has glossary with everything you need to know if you're completely new to franchise (and with some explanaitions about show itself): http://macross.jp/delta/glossary/
Translation:
http://desuarchive.org/a/thread/143267764/#q143270945
http://desuarchive.org/a/thread/143267764/#q143270985
http://desuarchive.org/a/thread/143267764/#q143271099
http://desuarchive.org/a/thread/143267764/#q143271140
If you encounter something you don't know you can always check these posts.
>>143682310
Anyone?
>>143703651
Welcome aboard, anon. If you've been as starved for a good weekly-hype anime original as I have been, then this is the show for you. Sadly it seems like a lot of younger/newer posters on /a/ are reluctant to pick up this show because they are worried about watching it out of sequence.
>>143704280
https://why485.itch.io/missiledodge
http://www.strawpoll.me/10666341
>>143703065
>looks like a boy
>one-dimensional
>has no development
>ugly outfit
>>143704784
>the guy
The guys, plural.
>>143681377
And people shit on Reina and prefer Makina over her. Reina > Makina
>>143704371
>they are worried about watching it out of sequence.
Also shitton of people still think that it's something like gundam, a serious war drama with angry men killing each other using big robots for political reasons (and they they probably haven't watched any of gundams either).
And it's fucking mind blowing. I admit, I dived into franchise only few months ago and marathoned everything. But as far as I remember I always knew that Macross was also about singing and roamnce. I knew May'ns songs long before I watched Frontier. I knew about origin of kira gesture. I was genuinely surprised when I heard Information High in Plus because I heard it many times before on r/a/dio and old /a/ sound threads (I'm missing those so much).
I remember I was hesitant to pick up F because I thought that both main heroines were ugly (how wrong I was about Sheryl, she is goddess). And for 7 it was like "50 episodes? no, thanks" (and how right I was, why did they do it?). But it was never because I didn't know what Macross is about.
>>143704931
>>143704894
>>143704845
>>143704792
>>143704730
Very good fanartist's job.
I will ad something too.
>>143704883
I could have sworn it was one guy from his shitty English.
>>143705072
>ad
*add
>>143705119
Dude no, there are many people using it.
>>143704784
>trying to ruin the thread again with metashit
>>143704800
Bogue pls go
Is there any wings.io room to occupy?
