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○2016年春期放送開始TVアニメ ランキング*7,968 00/13 Jojo Part 4*6,880


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○2016年春期放送開始TVアニメ ランキング

*7,968 00/13 Jojo Part 4
*6,880 00/03 Kabaneri
*6,672 00/06 Ship Girls Not Kancolle Edition
*6,346 00/09 Re: Zero
*5,940 00/06 Bungo-Stray-Dogs
*2,826 00/06 Bakuon!!
*2,593 00/06 Flying Witch
*2,126 00/05 SUPER LOVERS
*1,849 00/06 Netogenoyome
*1,809 00/02 Kuma Miko
*1,508 01/06 Kiznaiver
*1,424 04/04 Ninja Slayer 2016 Edition
**,748 00/07 Tanaka-kun
**,578 03/03 DJ Flash Animation
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Sad little cottage industry with it's sad little 4 digit sales tallies and event tickets.
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>>143415550
>*6,880 00/03 Kabaneri

Thank God, I was scared it would sell 10K.
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To put into perspective how much Kabaneri was overestimated, it had 9903 points by the time of release date.
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>>143415585

At this rate it's looking like Macross is the only hope of that. Re:Zero might be able to inch over the line since it's only had 5 days compared to seven for the others and seems to still be charting but I doubt it. GuP kind of ate this seasons sales. It's like over 200,000 just for the movie alone and about 10K at least for the older BD's versus...that mess. The thing is all of these shows had event tickets and some even some pretty massive advertising campaigns and that's what it amounts too. Time for a new business model.
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Ouch
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>>143415639
Good joke. Kabaneri sales are cratering while Re zero and Haifuri will continue to get sales in the second week and go past it.
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Did stalker literally just underestimate everything?
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>>143415669
>Impying it wont get a boost with the finale + 2nd cour announcement

Deluded shitter is deluded, both shit zero and haifuritrash will stay below it wheter you like it or not.
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>>143415683
Haifuri beaten its estimate.
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>>143415653

If you totaled up all this seasons stuff so far that actually charted and combined the numbers it wouldn't even amount to a 3rd of Girls und Panzer Der Film's Limited Edition Blu-Ray Volumes first week sales alone. That's the power gap between this season of anime and that movie and I doubt Macross Delta is enough to make a difference
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>>143415683
Almost everything. Haifuri had 5589 points.
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>>143415693
>finale

If you mean an ending so bad that it makes Guilty Crown's and Valvrave's look like masterpieces, sure. There won't be a second cour and it'll be forgotten in a week.
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What happened to the all mighty otaku dollars? Are the neets finally die off?
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Kabaneri sells better than VVV but worse than Guilty Crown.

The hype and sales died down when Biba got introduced.

Well, good to see that Jojo is consistent. Part 5 confirmed.
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>>143415744
Deluded fedora, your tears are delicious. Also OP only posted the Kabaneri BD numbers, with DVD it sold more than jojo.
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>>143415708
And its final episode aired on Saturday, so the boost from that hasn't taken full effect. It'll probably get a good amount of second week sales.
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>>143415669

Haifuri is almost already off the chart and it's store front event ticket offer expires at the end of the first week. I maybe see it gaining like another 2K tops. Re:Zero still has episodes and it's been the most explosively growing show in terms of popularity among buying otaku so I can see it having a strong second week. It's also the only show on that list of note that got released later in the week so all the more reason it's second week numbers are probably going to be a bit stronger. Still not expecting 10K for anything here.
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>>143415789
>Also OP only posted the Kabaneri BD numbers, with DVD it sold more than jojo.

*6 ** *6,081 **6,081 *1 甲鉄城のカバネリ 1(完全生産限定版)
10 ** **,799 ***,799 **1 甲鉄城のカバネリ 1(完全生産限定版)

Nope.
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>>143415789
Getting really tired of your shit.

http://yaraon-blog.com/archives/87072

>BD
> *6 ** *6,081 **6,081 *1 甲鉄城のカバネリ 1(完全生産限定版)
>DVD
> 10 ** **,799 ***,799 **1 甲鉄城のカバネリ 1(完全生産限定版)
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Can JoJo ever be stopped?
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>>143415828
Part 6 might slow the sales down.

Part 5 will probably end up selling more than Part 4 though.
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>>143415794
Haifuri V1 has no event ticket and is at rank 37, close to Re Zero. Its final episode aired at the end of the week so the effect from that hasn't been fully recorded. Contrast that with Kabaneri, which is dropping fast.
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>>143415841
Never understood why the nips love 5 so much. I mean no part of JoJo is "bad" but 5 is definitely the least good
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>>143415728

A storefront effect of about 1000 is not too surprising considering the event ticket offer that only kicked in last Friday and all the different benefits across the stores. I've seen Aniplex shows double their estimates before like Charlotte cause of storefront only benefits and personally had it pegged at about 7K first week minimum cause of this. I actually expected everything here to be at least a thousand higher and in Kabaneri's case maybe even double what it sold. Really tough look for the late night anime industry right now.
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>yaraon
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>>143415683
>>143415728
No, it almost overestimate everything.
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>>143415550
>*6,672 00/06 Haifuri
How?
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>>143415550
>Ship Girls Not Kancolle Edition
I love Kancolle and Haifuri.
fight me fags
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The fuck? Everything got overestimated? How does this even happen? Let alone those pathetic numbers across the board.
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>>143415892
Kabaneri: 70% of pt.
JoJo: 86% of pt.
Re:Zero: 86% of pt.
Haifuri: 120% of pt.
Bakuon!!: 64%of pt.
Flying Witch: 85%of pt.
Netoge: 71% of pt.
Kuma Miko: 90% of pt.
Bungo-Stray-Dogs: 191% of pt.
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>>143415866
Part 5 with shit American scans and translations <<<<<<<<<< reading Part 5 with a good translation and non-fucked artwork like the Japs did <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< watching Part 5 in 2018 with a flawless translation, godtier sound design, and enough style and quality color choices to disregard the occasional/frequent QUALITY
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>>143415945
Konosuba didn't sell 10K first week and ended at 12K. You have to give stuff time to sell.
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yo where dat edgy bitch at
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>>143415860

It has a storefront event ticket thing which seems like some sort of outdoor recording session for a Haifuri Radio show. You have to buy it from a designated anime shop and then you get a ticket postcard you mail in to get the actual pass. They're only accepting them for a couple more days though and the event is in a couple weeks. Volume 2 and 3 just plain have event tickets but for what I don't know yet. Also Amazon rank after release date doesn't tell you much unless it's stupid high and by that I mean like top 5 a month after release like Girls und Panzer Der Film.
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>>143415550
>*7,968 00/13 Jojo Part 4
>*6,346 00/09 Re: Zero
Garbage always finds its way to the top.
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>>143415550
>*1,809 00/02 Kuma Miko
What went wrong?
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>>143415866
Part 5 attracted a lot of fujos. A LOT.
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What the fuck? Even the shitty winter made more sales then this. Anime is dead.
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>*1,508 01/06 Kiznaiver
>*1,424 04/04 Ninja Slayer 2016 Edition
TRIGGER FINDS A WAY
TO THE BOTTOM
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>>143415980
The event doesn't seem like a big deal if it's not even advertised on amazon. I still haven't heard a source for it either.

>Also Amazon rank after release date doesn't tell you much unless it's stupid high and by that I mean like top 5 a month after release like Girls und Panzer Der Film.

Saekano continued to sell in subsequent weeks and its V1 was never in the top 5. Re Zero isn't much higher than Haifuri and we all know that will get a bunch of sales second week.
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>>143415898

Why are people surprised. It's the show that Aniplex put all of it's marketing power into this season and is catching the runoff from the GuP buzz by having a lot of the same staff and marketing this fact. Also that's pretty shit for how popular the genre is right now. Arpeggio of Blue Steel did like double that first week with a fraction of the advertising and merchandising push. Pretty sure same with Strike Witches. Kancolle did like 3 times that and the show was panned by it's own fans. Dare I even mention Girls und Panzer.
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>>143415550
>*6,880 00/03 Kabaneri
I'm glad it's doing below expectations but fuck, that trash sold nearly 7k, I'm feeling sick.
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>>143415983
Not liking JoJo is fine and all but you can't deny it's one of the most popular and celebrated mangas ever. Really shouldn't surprise anyone its a big seller
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I can see the top 4 all still reaching 10k. Also OP forgot the unranked shows. Waiting for full version

>**,*** Asterisk War 2nd Season
>**,*** Shounen Maid
>**,*** Terra Formars Revenge
>**,*** Anne Happy
>**,*** Sakamoto desu ga?
>**,*** Endride
>**,*** Concrete Revolutio The Last Song
>**,*** Hundred
>**,*** Sousei Onmyouji
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>>143416031

I guess it's possible. Aniplex is pushing Haifuri like it's some sort of Final Fantasy like desperation scenario so it's bound to have some effect on 2nd week. I just haven't seen a full on Saekano like scenario from them since Saekano.
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>these numbers
>still a fuckton of anime getting made regardless
Is this just the calm before the inevitable collapse or are BDs becoming less and less of the go to indicator of a show's success now?
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>>143415639
>>143415693
>deluded Kabanerifag thinking his shitty SnK clone won't be surpassed soon

No more episodes for your trash anime anon, while Haifuri and Re:Zero will keep going.
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>>143415550
I want to fuck Josuke.
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>>143415972
Stalker's pt is always for first week only.
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>Guilty Crowns BD Box sold more than half this season

*9. *2,660 *2,660 Guilty Crown Blu-ray BOX Limited Edition
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>>143416054
Relax, it had an event ticket for a big band. V2 and the rest will drop like a rock.
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>>143415550
Where's bo/co/ no capeshit?
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>>143416084
I'd go with the latter. Streaming anime has taken off in a big way so Imagine a lot of japs are moving over to that instead of overpriced BDs
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>>143416079
>waiting to see the sales of those shows
At least Kuma Miko and Flying Witch will get a boost so they at least appear higher in standing.
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>>143416108
Didn't it only have 100pts at the last Stalker thread?

>>143416118
Not out yet.
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>>143415898

I was in Japan recently and that shit was advertising almost everywhere.
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>>143416084
Generally, suppliers make more things as they get more profitable, so with how the number of anime getting produced continues to increase and how BD numbers continue to fall, the latter is more probable.
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>>143416108
Releases July 6th. I would be surprised if it breaks 1k.

>**6,580位/**6,006位 (***,197 pt) [*,**3予約] 2016/07/06 迷家-マヨイガ-1 [Blu-ray]
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>>143416149
Memes couldn't save it.
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>>143416145

This industry is full of idiots so I bet this is a sign to keep making more garbage and drive it off a cliff. At this point it's looking like only the biggest whales that leap at event tickets are even still buying this shit. Meanwhile iDOLM@STER sold like 89K CD's this week which is equivalent to like 24K BD's. Maybe the solution really is make more idol anime and throw event tickets in them.
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>>143416084

I'd wager that there are a ton of invisible variables alongside BD sales that have increased in prominence over the past few years. And I'd even wager that those variables can't be measured as simple as a glance at oricon because this shit is actually baffling me as well. If next season, one with god damn Love Live of all things, and maybe the season after that with Brave Witches as well have numbers this low but the industry still looks to be afloat then it's definitely the latter.

That would basically mean that stalker threads are basically useless now. Like genuinely unreliable garbage used only for shitposting.

Ah fuck it. We ride til we die.
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Now look at GCs first week sales:
*6, *7,164 *7,164 Guilty Crown vol.1 Limited Edition
*8, *2,878 *2,878 Guilty Crown vol.1 Limited Edition
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*5, 10,042 Guilty Crown

At the end the show sold 8k average over 11 volumes. Kabaneri didn't even hit 8k with its first volume.
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>>143416086

Not entirely sure which direction you're being stupid in but you might want to notice that it's 2nd behind Jojo already.
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>>143415550
Well at least Bungo didn't flop, I want Bones to barely survive.
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>>143416233
Who cares that also had an event ticket
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>>143416084
>BDs becoming less and less of the go to indicator of a show's success now?
It hasn't been for like the past 10 years, only /v/ makes a big deal out of it.
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>>143416255
Even the later volumes without ticket mostly sold better than Kabaneri V1.
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Next season the most promising sales-wise shows (out of the ones whose pre-orders are already up) are the ones with pre-existing fanbases which is normal every season. Rewrite (Key fanbase), Prisma (Prisma/Fate fanbase), Amanchu (Aria fanbase).
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So I don't understand. What are the other avenues for income the industry is exploring which isn't BD sales?
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>>143416012
The ending
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>>143416086
>while Haifuri and Re:Zero will keep going.
hahahahahaha, garbage will keep going. Good joke hipster.
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>>143416241
But it has no legs. The past few episodes have completely failed to attract new buyers.
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>>143416233

There's kind of a trend of every commercially signifcant thing selling way worse than it's obvious predecessor this season. Funny thing is Japan considers Haifuri's predecessor Vivid Red Operation and not GuP or Kancolle. Guilty Crown->Kabaneri, Jojo P3-P4, Steins;Gate->ReZero and inevitably Macross Frontier->Macross Delta. This shits getting old and it's too obvious to anyone other than event ticket whores and hardcore moe otaku that it's just the same repackaged stuff. Even the event tickets aren't working like they used to considering they've kind of been devalued in that everything has them. The only thing that they still seem to work ridiculously well for are idol series.
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>the age of physical copies is starting to end
>nothing will ever surpass Gundam SEED Destiny now
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>>143416282
Streaming rights.
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>>143416280
Love Live lad.
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>>143416282
Crunchyroll.
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>>143416290
Are you implying Kabaneri isn't garbage?
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>>143415669
>wishing bad sales on any other shows in an industry that barely stays afloat
it's like you hate anime or something
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>>143416280

Love Live Sunshine is the one most people are betting on to easily clear 10K. It's entirely possible it gets 10K stalker pts in less than a week once it goes up. Really if all volumes don't instantly go to the top 10 the moment they go up I'd almost be surprised.
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>>143416012
Probably the hardest a show has crashed and burned in a single episode since I don't know when
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>>143416309
Better than edge zero and walmart GuP for sure.
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>>143416299
>>143416308
Wrong.
Streaming gives them peanuts and this is why they even started their own thing with Daisuki to counter CR. The ad revenue that comes with streaming is what you want. The license fees are abysal low.
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>>143416282
streaming, merchandise, pachinko, original source sales, music etc.
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>>143416280
>Next season the most promising sales-wise shows
Nope just Love Live and that's gonna once again take up all the potential sellers like how GuP did this season. Nobody is going to give a shit about Mob Psycho 100 and D.Grayman Hollow. DAYS has a shot with the fujobucks if it becomes another FREE! Berserk is dead in the water.
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>>143416297

Bakemonogatari did that already, but it's not like Destiny's even the top selling anyway.
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Does this mean stalker threads are finally irrelevant?
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>>143416333
> edge zero
This is a first. Coming from the idiot that is defending a literal train-wreck.
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>>143416333
>he actually likes Kabaneri

Everybody laugh
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>>143416335
>Streaming gives them peanuts
Gonzo was literally resurrected from the dead due to all the revenue it received from its licenses through Netflix streaming
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>>143416294

It doesn't help that it's actually a high price item which is probably a lot of the reason it was so overestimated. It was priced just below the cutoff for the high price item modifier to kick in on stalker. High price items almost never do well outside of pre-orders. Might as well just take whatever it's second and third volumes estimates are and cut them down to about 60% as well.
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>>143416315
Kabaneri is the epitome of cheap rip-offs. It doesn't deserve to sell a single disc.
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>>143416349
>Monogatari
Destiny nearly made twice as much as Bakemonogatari.

Unit numbers don't mean shit. Plenty of anime like Nana priced their volumes at 5 dollars to get the numbers high but that means you get a lot less profit.
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>>143416371
Hopefully
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>>143416371
They were always irrelevant.
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>>143416396
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>>143416381
>Netflix

The worst streaming site. They don't even release weekly.
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Is anime dead or not?
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>>143416396
>Destiny nearly made twice as much as Bakemonogatari.

I thought that's what you might be getting at, but it's still not the top selling.
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ヒェェェェェェェェwwwwwwwww
外人様も動揺を隠せないご様子wwwwwwwww
はい。アニメ業界は終わりですwwwwwwwwwww
全体的に低すぎて特定の作品を煽る気も出てこないこの虚しさwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
ああああああああああああああああああ

まぁ関係ないけどfuck gaijin.
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Did anyone in Haifuri die?
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>>143416012

Wasn't that about it's estimate anyway?

>>143416349

Not really. Aside from Kabaneri which was a high price item that wasn't properly accounted for and Bungou Stray Dogs which has fujoshi buyers and a retardedly heavy storefront effect as a result everything else was well within normal margins of error. Those are really the only surprises for opposite reasons as I was expecting more for Kabaneri and a lot less for Bungou. I've seen seasons where it's just been way more off like Fall 2014. That was the season I figured it just completely shit itself forever but it's been pretty close lately. It's never going to factor in storefront but if you know what to expect you can usually guess the adjustment.

Of course none of this saves Stalker Threads from being full of stupid people that have no fucking idea what they are talking about ever.
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>>143416393
Wanna tell me what shows aren't a cheap ripoff, my sweet anon?
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>>143416012
Nothing. It was never going to sell well part of the reason why it got that ending.
>This shit ain't getting a second season might as well go out in a memorable way.
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>>143415550
>*6,880 00/03 Kabaneri
>Mfw they've all cancelled their pre-order just before the end.
>no one noticed that because they didn't check the stalker website few days before its release and the big drop.
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>>143416466
No, final estimate was 2217.
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>>143416393
>kabaneri is a cheap ripoff
>re:zero isn't
is this satire
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>>143416440
EVA numbers are also heavily pushed beyond the common limits with its main sales coming from cheap pre-DVD sources
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>>143415550
Any other notable Dengeki LNs that's sold as shitty as Netoge?
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>>143416012
The fucking director, scriptwiters or whoever is responsible must be proud of themselves for killing the sales like that.
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>>143415550
>*5,940 00/06 Bungo-Stray-Dogs
WEW
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>>143416529
There's a difference between being a rip-off and being inspired.
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>>143416536
implying nips give a fuck
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>>143416486

Haifuri
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>>143416396

Gundam Seed Destiny had like 19 volumes and was an unbroken 50 episode run of about 70K average. The thing about Monogatari series is it doesn't actually have the same average over the same volume count, it's mainly because Bakemonogatari was only a 7 volume series that it has that 10K edge in averages since it didn't have to count the next 12 volumes where it dipped.

Anyway people who only look at averages are morons. Shaft is incapable of producing a 50 episode series and running it for a year straight anyway though.
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>>143416529
>I haven't watched it but I'll shitpost anyway
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>>143415550
>*1,424 04/04 Ninja Slayer 2016 Edition
SAVED
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>>143416510
That's not true. In the first half Kuma Miko was ranking near the top. If they didn't decide to change genres to horror Kuma Miko could've sold a lot.
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>>143416547
Please explain
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So what does this all mean exactly?
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>>143416518

That's really not a whole lot more that I would consider it a statistical anomaly. Plus you know high price BD set which are always overestimated a little.
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>>143416534
Doesnt matter since it boosted the source sales which are most LN adaptions intention. Theres a reason why most LN adaptions that have high disc sales dont see a season 3.
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>>143416567
It wasn't ranking that well even before the last episode
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>>143416550
>shitcolle + shit und panzer with le evil hamsters

Complete trash. Shit show and moefag fanbase
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>>143415550
>**,748 00/07 Tanaka-kun
This is just sad and unfair.

And I bet Sansha Sanyou and Flying Witch will sell about the same, fucking nips.
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>>143416559
Unit number isn't relevant.
Average unit number isn't relevant.
All that counts is the money.

And SEED/Destiny both made a shitload of money with its expensive DVDs selling a shitton.
People kept buying SEED in those numbers while Monogatari is now touching the 10-20k area.
And till this day SEED still sells 10k-20k every time it gets a new box release. So the actual profit is even higher.
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>>143416564
I've seen and enjoyed them both, anon
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>>143416570
sales on the 1st week.
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>>143416559
>shaft is incapable of producing a 50 episode series and running it for a year straight anyway though

so basically like most studios?
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Kabaneri is pretty much over.
Its second week is going to be tragic.

Both Re:Zero and High School Fleet will outsell it.
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>>143416583
The show was gradually turning into horror. It at least turned the bullying up way too much. The show started declining in rank around when Hibiki showed up.
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>>143415550
>**,578 03/03 DJ Flash Animation
nooooo
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There really is nothing really original. Everything came from somewhere and that's where we derive inspiration. Nothing we create is ever original. We derive concepts but that doesn't mean it is not your own creation.
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The anime industry is:
[ ] DEAD
[ ] A walking corpse
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Sad seeing /a/ wanting anime to fail. If anything you should want to see the overall industry have good sales. Problem with the every industry in general is that niches that get popular get repeated into the ground. If sales were more leveled than we would have higher quality of diverse anime.
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>>143416547
Go on. I'm interested.
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FUCKING NIPSwwwwwwwwwww

買ってもない外人が発狂wwwwwwwwwww

悲しいのぉ。日本人のせいにされるなんてwwwwwwwwwwww
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>>143416588

Well it Seed Destiny all happened within a couple years. Monogatari series is trundling on at about 7 now with a sporadic release of a few episodes here and there.
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>>143416646
>If anything you should want to see the overall industry have good sales
Not when they produce shit like Kabaneri, Re:Zero and Ship Girls
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>>143416591
>enjoyed them both

Woah hold up you can't say that on here!
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>>143416587
And I'm pretty sure Anne Happy and Bakuon will outsell them even though they are weaker for only one reason: Because there is no main male characters.

A shame, yeah.
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>>143416647
>original iPhone - being inspired
>iWatch - uninspired rip-off
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>>143416547
How is one any more of a rip-off or inspired than the other?
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>>143416663
Oh stop it you. Anime should be diverse enough where every fan can be catered.
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>>143416548
I think they do though.
http://yaraon-blog.com/archives/86971
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>>143416677
Yeah okay that's cute and all, but what about in the context of the actual shows we're talking about?
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Oh, hey.
Bungo Stray Dogs did pretty well actually. Fujo power stronk.
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>>143416613
lol no, especially not haifuri which is already finished

>le second week boost for no reason
XD
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>>143416663
> Re:Zero is shit
Try saying that in the threads and you will get instant (You)s.
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>>143416679
>Kabaneri
>grab staff of Guilty Crown, throw in plot of SnK
>except this time, put in absolutely no effort into anything but a few frames of shading to make it look like you aren't lazy (just listen to the music and compare it to the other works of the composer)
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>>143415550
>578 03/03 DJ Flash Animation

>03/03

What

Already?
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Anime finally dead? are we finally free?
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>>143416548
Nips are fucking pissed, the anime director's basically gone into hiding.
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>>143416715
>every show barring Kabaneri and Big Order
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>>143416661
SEED never got pushed away by its age.
The merchandise is still doing the best among the classic Gundam stuff.

And it gets referenced frequently till this day. It's a true classic that never stops producing money.
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>>143416717
Biba is always fabulous, they put tons of effort on him at least.
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Meanwhile in mecha land:
44,876 Kidou Senshi Gundam The Origin v3 (BD)
12,800 Kidou Senshi Gundam The Origin v3 (DVD)

IBO is doing shit.
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>>143416695
Fine, I'll stick with anime.

>Saekano - beautifully constructed harem with clear signs of creativity
>Oreshura - lazy mishmash of tropes, author clearly has no spine
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>>143416737
And that is why no living faggot is ever satisfied. (You) and me and everyone else that is a hypocrite.
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>>143416751
IBO is Okada so of course it's doing shit.
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>>143416746
Is he? Miyano feels like he's phoning it in.
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>>143416625
>>143416722
To be fair, it was more of an elaborate mixtape than actual anime.
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>>143416705
But if you take a look at amazon rankings.

Kabaneri is pretty much gone from the charts. While Re:Zero and Haifuri are still selling.
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>>143416742
>The merchandise is still doing the best among the classic Gundam stuff.
Nope UC is still king followed by 00 and Wing. The CE era was notorious for its lackluster sales outside DVD/BD
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>>143416777
While i like TRIGGER i am glad that Kiznaiver is bombing.

It's time to remove Okada from this industry.
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>>143416639
>Over 40 new anime come out each season.

So neither.
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>>143416717

This really hasn't been a good look season for Aniplex and it's crazy marketing campaign schemes. They might end up with a couple shows in the top four sellers again but considering the goals they were aiming for (New GuP tier franchise, new Attack on Titan Tier franchise that will impress Amazon) and the ad money and resources sunk into their shows it's barely amounted to all that much more than a Re:Zero, Jojo Adaptation or Bungou Stray Dogs. Did Bungou Stray Dogs even have an ad campaign?

Then there's the matter of Kiznaiver which didn't just fall below expectations but flat bombed. Too much over marketing, not enough actual blockbustering
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>>143416751
Okadafaggots on triple suicide watch (memeyoiga, memenaiver and IBOshit)

The worst of the three is easily memeyoiga, even more with the reddit-lite hugbox around here.
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>>143416777
Okada's original script sounded fine. What we got was retarded. It's still basically outdoing most things this season though.

IBO BD v7 - 5,775
IBO DVD v7 - 734
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>>143416793
>>143416777
If Okada ever switched her job from screenwriter to director, shall we burn her (not literally) at the stake?
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I usually don't pay attention to these sales/ratings threads

Is JoJo really that popular? I always thought it was kind of niche in Japan
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>>143416789
Not entirely correct.
The Cosmic Era sold a shitload of Freedoms and Strike Freedoms while most other suits ended up selling mediocre-low.
But you can say the same about most shows. Gundam 00s merchandise mostly gets carried by Setsunas Gundams. Probably one reason why they let the MC fly as many machines as possible.

X got canned and sells like shit.
G Gundam was a flop at all fronts.
Turn A and Victory bombed as well.
Overall its one of the best sellers even with the classics and 00, Wing doing better in merch.
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>>143416686
Hah, I want to watch this now. Is the ending THAT atrocious?
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>>143416787
Neither is going to sell more, better accept it now
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>>143416829
Depends on what you expect from it. I laughed but a lot of people were pissed. This is not a comfy sol this is a comedy/bullying show with a SOL backdrop.
Have fun.
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>>143416829
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GDQoHhSzbt0
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>>143415576
I don't get it everytime someone says this and I am confused if he is legit or now, have sales really dip down from before? wasn't it always like this?
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>>143416823
If you go onto pixiv it gets tons of fanart.
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>>143416843
>ruining the scene when anon has no context at all
Complete faggot. Let him experience the humour and hatred like the rest of us.
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>>143416751

Still good enough to sell better than most of this seasons first volumes with it's seventh and be healthily in the mix with the top sellers this week. This is a daytime anime too, they aren't even supposed to be selling Blu-Rays but making money in merchandise.

>>143416742

Universal Century is still the number one model kit mover overall. Even random grunt suits like the Acguy do pretty well.
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I wonder how much money they lost with Kiznaiver. What a huge bomb.
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>>143416833
I don't think so, Re:Zero is going to continue in the long run since it is still airing.
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>>143416823
>Is JoJo really that popular?
Its a manga that's been running for nearly 30 years
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>>143416848
Not really. This season has better sales than winter did, which if you take away the outlier of Konosuba bombed on all fronts.
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>>143416856
I'm still mad that we didn't get Okada's original script.
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>>143416823
Jojo started almost 30 years ago and the manga is one of the best selling manga of all time.

So yeah, it's popular I guess.
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>>143416833

Not that guy, but it only has a small lead over both shows. Also, Re:Zero had only 5 days on the list versus 7 for Kabaneri, so it will probably have more week 2 sales.
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>>143416829
It most likely wasn't intentional, just a result of bad execution. It was mostly supposed to be more lighthearted punchline, but because of bad execution, it seemed darker than it should be.

That said, it can't be denied that the show was losing steam way before the final episode.
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>>143416848
They have been dipping down since 2013
○2013年春期放送開始TVアニメ 1巻ランキング
83,683 進撃の巨人
65,465 うたのプリンスさまっ マジLOVE2000%
40,915 宇宙戦艦ヤマト2199 (※2012年4月に上映・発売済)
20,840 俺の妹がこんなに可愛いわけがない。
18,801 とある科学の超電磁砲S
15,031 はたらく魔王さま!
13,567 やはり俺の青春ラブコメはまちがっている。
*9,878 デート・ア・ライブ
*9,307 翠星のガルガンティア
*8,906 カーニヴァル
*8,295 革命機ヴァルヴレイヴ
*5,787 変態王子と笑わない猫。
*5,072 這いよれ!ニャル子さんW
*4,323 よんでますよ、アザゼルさん。Z

○2014年春期放送開始TVアニメ 1巻ランキング
116,266 ラブライブ! (2nd Season)
*35,159 ハイキュー!!
*13,999 ジョジョの奇妙な冒険 スターダストクルセイダース
*13,290 魔法科高校の劣等生
*12,996 ご注文はうさぎですか?
*11,394 メカクシティアクターズ
*10,573 ノーゲーム・ノーライフ
**9,845 シドニアの騎士
**8,422 頭文字D Final Stage
**7,233 神々の悪戯
**6,304 デート・ア・ライブII

○2015年春期放送開始TVアニメ 1巻ランキング
60,350 うたのプリンスさまっ マジLOVEレボリューションズ
35,548 Fate/stay night [Unlimited Blade Works] (2ndシーズン)
22,208 血界戦線
13,495 やはり俺の青春ラブコメはまちがっている。続
10,120 響け!ユーフォニアム
*9,254 SHOW BY ROCK!!
*9,152 銀魂゚
*7,751 ウサビッチ ZERO
*6,644 ハイスクールD×D BorN
*6,562 ふなっしーのふなふなふな日和
*6,559 ハロー!!きんいろモザイク
*6,228 終わりのセラフ
*5,760 ニセコイ:
*5,622 ダンジョンに出会いを求めるのは間違っているだろうか
*5,588 シドニアの騎士 第九惑星戦役
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>>143415550
Where is the rest of this season?
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>>143416751

Bandai Visual might as well have rolled up and taken a giant shit down the rest of the industries throat with it's haul across this seasons lifespan. Girls und Panzer, iDOLM@STER, Gundam and there's still more Love Live stuff to come and Macross Delta Vol 1 in a month. It's not exactly fair right now. Walkure singles are cleaning house too along with the rest of their idols.
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>>143416717
>take steins;gate
>throw in isekai
>now you have re:zero
look I can do it too
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>>143416872
>This season has better sales than winter did,
That's not saying much since Winter has always been a weak selling season. Compare this spring sales to last spring and you can see a huge drop.
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>>143416886
I don't see how you can make stuff like Natsu saying "you don't have to think about hard things anymore" lighthearted at all. The anime staff must have been sick in the mind.
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>>143416906
> Steins;Gate
You fucked up.
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>>143416823
>Is JoJo really that popular?
It's a huge inspiration to modern shounen. Also it's really gay. Part 4 sales has blown part 2 and 3 out of the water though. The anime has never sold as well as this.
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>>143416808
>(New GuP tier franchise, new Attack on Titan Tier franchise that will impress Amazon)

Well they must be absolutely retarded then. Trying to ride the wave of something else's success will only get you so far, specially if you did as terrible a job at it as Haifuri and Kabaneri.
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>>143416889
>Love Live
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>>143416918
wow epic image anon
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>>143416924
>Part 4 sales has blown part 2 and 3 out of the water though
No it hasn't Part 4 thus far has the lowest sales of the anime
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>>143416925
They did a good job with Haifuri. Aniplex shows are much better when they're lighthearted and don't take themselves seriously.
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>>143416889

The last year I consider TV anime particularly good or worth spending much time on. 2015 and now 2016 are fucking disasters practically.

>>143416897

Didn't chart or not out yet in the case of Delta and Luluco. Yeah things are that bad, 8K with an event ticket and in it's 4th series based on a manga released in 1992 is currently your top seller.
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>>143416924
>Part 4 sales has blown part 2 and 3
I think you need to learn how to read sales anon.
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This should be what scaring you

Unranked in either format:
2016/06/22 Anne Happy v1
2016/06/22 Endride v1
2016/06/22 Gakusen Toshi Asterisk 2nd Season v1
2016/06/22 Sakamoto Desu ga? v1
2016/06/22 Shounen Maid v1
2016/06/22 TerraFormars Revenge v1
2016/06/24 Hundred v1
2016/06/24 Sousei no Onmyouji v1
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>>143416946
>They did a good job with Haifuri
That's not selling close to what GuP sold
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>>143416908
please do show comparisons
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>>143416925
Does this mean that the Kancolle meme has finally ended?
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>>143416973
Anne Happy is the only one listed that deserved to sell.
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>>143416889
>no Osomatsu
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>*1,508 01/06 Kiznaiver
Not low enough
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>>143416973
Doesnt scare me since most of those shows have no replay value.
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>>143416889
>35,548 Fate/stay night [Unlimited Blade Works] (2ndシーズン)
I though it sold very well? oh well
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>>143416976
see
>>143416889
Top selling show from last year was a spring show, this year we'll be lucky if Delta sells over 10k
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>>143416942
I see you were too slothful.
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>>143416974
It's not doing bad, and expecting it to do GuP numbers was retarded in the first place. They're fundamentally different shows anyway, Haifuri is girls with boats while GuP is tanks with girls.
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>>143416973
I thought a lot of people were following Sakamoto? What happened?
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>>143417005
There is love live next season so don't worry about the sales.
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>>143417004
>35k is very well
Are you retarded son? That's phenomenal especially for an overpriced boxset
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>>143416924
>Also it's really gay.
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>>143416973
Which is super weird because according to stalker at least Anne Happy has been ranking quite high for the past 3-4 weeks. I knew that the others were ranking shit, but seriously that one was unexpected.
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>>143416973
Only Unhappy deserved to sell and even then I already conceded to the fact that it was going to sell like shit.
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>>143416995
Osomatsu is occupying spot 1 and 2 of the current chart.
>2* 17,606 limited edition BD
>1* 19,606 limited edition DVD
Stop worrying.
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>>143417005
I'm really going to dread the shit posting if Delta doesn't break 10k.
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>>143417028
I wasn't saying it sold well anon.. and what was the price of the boxset again? I remembered it was laughable.
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***,631位/***,577位 (***,*68 pt) [*,**0予約] 16/09/28 16/07 【Amazon.co.jp限定】Rewrite 1 (メーカー特典:「アニメキャラクターデザイン・野中正幸描き下ろし複製ミニ色紙 Vol.1」) (1~7巻連動購入特典:「キャラクター原案・樋上いたる描き下ろし1~7巻収納BOX」「複製原画セット」引換シリアルコード付)(完全生産限定版) [Blu-ray]
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>>143416459
The ship.
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>>143417031
Cut-off for BD was 1.8K, Anne Happy probably sold a bit over 1K and just didn't rank.
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>>143417022
One show selling well out of 40 others is bad.
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Hopefully when anime is dead I can start my backlog.
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>>143416946
>They did a good job with Haifuri.
No, they did not. Retarded gerbil plot killed its steam. It's a show that tried to be lighthearted but serious at times but only did the first part right, making every part with "plot" in it a pointless drag to watch. If it had been a lighthearted show about ships fighting each other for sport or training it might have come closer to GuP.

>>143416978
Kancollefags only care about their own shit, contrary to what people seem to think. Their meme-tier popularity ended sometime in 2014. It is still going strong today but it's hardly going to spill over to other things.

Either way, I don't get why stuff like Haifuri gets grouped in with Kancolle. They are completely different things and they get painted as if their fanbase overlaps completely. Kancolle has more overlap with Strike Witches than Haifuri.
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Blu-ray
*1. 17,606 *17,606 Osomatsu-san Vol.6 Limited Edition
*2. 12,619 *12,619 Aria The Origination Blu-ray BOX
*3. *7,144 **7,144 Kono Subarashii Sekai ni Shukufuku wo! Vol.4 Limited Edition
*4. *6,315 **6,315 JoJo no Kimyou na Bouken: Diamond wa Kudakenai Vol.1 Limited Edition
*5. *6,081 **6,081 Koutetsujou no Kabaneri Vol.1 Limited Edition
*6. *5,775 **5,775 Kidou Senshi Gundam: Tekketsu no Orphans Vol.7
*7. *5,708 **5,708 High School Fleet Vol.1 Limited Edition
*8. *5,577 **5,577 Re:Zero kara Hajimeru Isekai Seikatsu Vol.1
*9. *3,683 **3,683 Gate: Jieitai Kanochi nite, Kaku Tatakaeri Vol.10 Limited Edition
10. *3,332 **3,332 Boku dake ga Inai Machi Vol.2 Limited Edition

11. *2,691 **2,691 Gintama° Vol.12 Limited Edition
12. *2,603 **2,603 Bungou Stray Dogs Vol.1 Limited Edition
13. *2,593 **2,593 Flying Witch Vol.1
14. *2,282 **2,282 Bakuon!! Vol.1 Limited Edition
15. *2,206 187,140 Girls und Panzer der Film Special Limited Edition
16. *2,103 *44,876 Mobile Suit Gundam: The Origin Vol.3
17. *2,052 **2,052 Futsuu no Joshikousei ga [Locodol] Yatte Mita. OVA Vol.2
18. *1,849 **1,849 Netoge no Yome wa Onnanoko ja Nai to Omotta? Vol.1 Limited Edition
19. *1,809 **1,809 Kuma Miko Vol.1 "Kuma-BOX"
20. *1,540 **1,540 Lupin III (2015) Vol.7
(cut-off 1,540)
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>>143417044
I think like over $500
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DVD
*1. 19,606 *19,606 Osomatsu-san Vol.6 Limited Edition
*2. *3,337 **3,337 Bungou Stray Dogs Vol.1 Limited Edition
*3. *2,675 **2,675 Gintama° Vol.12 Limited Edition
*4. *1,653 **1,653 JoJo no Kimyou na Bouken: Diamond wa Kudakenai Vol.1 Limited Edition
*5. *1,237 **1,237 Diabolik Lovers More,Blood Vol.4 Limited Edition
*6. **,964 ***,964 High School Fleet Vol.1 Limited Edition
*7. **,889 **5,438 Haikyuu!! Second Season Vol.6
*8. **,840 *12,800 Mobile Suit Gundam: The Origin Vol.3
*9. **,799 ***,799 Koutetsujou no Kabaneri Vol.1 Limited Edition
10. **,769 ***,769 Re:Zero kara Hajimeru Isekai Seikatsu Vol.1

11. **,761 **5,763 King of Prism by Pretty Rhythm Limited Edition
12. **,758 ***,758 Gate: Jieitai Kanochi nite, Kaku Tatakaeri Vol.10 Limited Edition
13. **,748 ***,748 Tanaka-kun wa Itsumo Kedaruge Vol.1
14. **,738 ***,738 Kono Subarashii Sekai ni Shukufuku wo! Vol.4 Limited Edition
15. **,734 ***,734 Kidou Senshi Gundam: Tekketsu no Orphans Vol.7
16. **,711 ***,711 Boku dake ga Inai Machi Vol.2 Limited Edition
17. **,694 *28,668 Osomatsu-san Vol.5 Limited Edition
18. **,657 ***,657 Transformers Superlink DVD-SET
19. **,651 ***,651 Durarara!!x2 Ketsu Vol.5 Limited Edition
20. **,616 ***,616 Akagami no Shirayuki-hime Vol.10 Limited Edition

21. **,582 ***,582 Ansatsu Kyoushitsu 2nd Season Vol.4 Limited Edition
22. **,570 ***,570 Prince of Stride: Alternative Vol.4
23. **,566 *15,042 Girls und Panzer der Film
24. **,558 ***,558 Lupin III (2015) Vol.7
25. **,544 ***,544 Bakuon!! Vol.1 Limited Edition
26. **,493 **2,126 Super Lovers Vol.1 Limited Edition
(cut-off 493)
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>>143417039
It's going to get shitposting for not selling as well as Frontier regardless. If Iron Blooded Orphans can sell over 10k than I'm sure Delta can.
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>>143416297
Nothing like Bakemonogatari?
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>>143416946


Too bad for them they don't seem to realize it. Boy do they love their edge. That said

>>143416925

Yeah the company honestly mystifies me with it's cram a bunch of big names that worked on a hit once into a show at a third rate studio every season, give it only 12 episodes and then neglect to give a fuck about it and expect the next big hit to come about. They still seem to think they found a magic formula with Madoka Magica but they haven't and should just go back to doing things like they used to in the 2000's when we got shows like Gurren Lagann, FMA and Darker Than Black out of them. Less Kiznaiver's, Kabaneri's and Ace Attorney animes.

The problem with Haifuri isn't it's lackluster dick sales compared to Gup or even Arpeggio of Blue Steel but the fact that it launched with like 500 pieces of pretty premium priced merchandise in anticipation of a monster hit that has to now be moved and it's just not big enough a franchise to have demand meet the supply. They might be able to find a way to move a little of it but it's a battle of attrition at this point.
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>>143416918
>demotivational
Is this 2011?
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>>143417065
>(cut-off 1,540)
What does this mean?
Where is the 21st, 22nd etc??
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>>143417104
>2011
More like 2008-2009.
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>>143417091
>animes
Discarded
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>>143415550
>*7,968 00/13 Jojo Part 4
>*6,880 00/03 Kabaneri
>*6,672 00/06 Ship Girls Not Kancolle Edition
>*6,346 00/09 Re: Zero
***,*31位/***,*30位 (**4,280 pt) [*,*43予約] 16/06/24 16/04 Re:ゼロから始める異世界生活 1 [Blu-ray]
***,*39位/***,*38位 (**1,300 pt) [*,202予約] 16/09/14 16/04 宇宙パトロールルル子 (初回生産限定盤) [Blu-ray]
***,*41位/***,*37位 (**3,404 pt) [*,*70予約] 16/06/22 16/04 ハイスクール・フリート 1(完全生産限定版) [Blu-ray]
***,*48位/***,*48位 (**2,481 pt) [*,*95予約] 16/06/22 16/04 ふらいんぐうぃっち Vol.1 [Blu-ray]
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So what now? Have we reached peak saturation?
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>>143417063

It didn't even come close to Arpeggio of Blue Steel and that wasn't aiming at anything other than just being a solid Girls and Ships show. Arpeggio of Blue Steel was a surprisingly fun show by the way, people should give it a whirl if they don't mind CGI.
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>>143415550
B-b-but Spring 2016 was the best season in years!!
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>>143417048
>>143417031
They have stock issues on Amazon for the 1st vol BD, which means that they were expecting it to sell like 1-2 frt in the first place.
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Does anyone actually bother to read Aniplex guy's wall of text?
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ANIME IS DYING
D
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Western need to start doing anime.
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>>143417084
>those DVD sales
Do fujoshi not own BD players or something?
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How well did one punch man sell?
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>>143417145
We peaked years ago. Now we're seeing the result of having one corporate cash cow eating out the competition. Love Live Sunshine will do more harm than good in terms of potential growth.
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>>143416808
I think they've abandoned this season too, since I haven't seen any shilling for any of their shows even the fujo idol one
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>>143417091
Oh shit, Aniplex guy is back, it's been a while since I last saw you.
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>>143417174
>western
>anime
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>>143417189
DVD is cheaper than BD.
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>>143416548
Director literally deleted his twitter account.

Nips got really mad with Yoshio's logic in the last episode.
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>>143417154
I think it's the industry falling down.
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>>143417196
It averaged 9k. Very Good.
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>>143417139

Are you stupid or something? You're measuring combined volume numbers against stalker estimates for literally one volume that doesn't even factor in storefront. Learn what you are doing.
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>>143417174
It was called airbender and it sucked
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>>143417202
>Aniplex guy
Why is he still ranting anyways? This season pretty much proved his point.
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>>143417163

No they just like saying stupid shit and ignoring people that know what they are talking about
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>>143417216
Falling down, falling down.
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>>143417216
Must be all the bullshit from the piracy laws. Cutting off heads only creates two more heads.
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>>143417202

Who cares?
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But we haven't even reached the 2020 Olympics yet. I thought that was supposed to kill anime?
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>>143417205
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pj8R29FnLr0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1TZCO-xMYL4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ADYke9aEm5U
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>>143417243
what do you mean?
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>>143417243
Probably has to do more with Yen surging after Brexit.
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PIRACY IS RUINING ANIME
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>>143417243
more like more people with tv recorders because of torne so there's less of an incentive to actually purchase
also mobage eating up money
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>>143416374
>calling kabaneri a trainwreck
how do people still think this is funny or clever
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>>143417196
Less than 10K
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>>143417216

I just think Japan is getting tired of shitty anime. When something like GuP Der Film comes along it does well and the staff really seemed to give a shit about it so maybe that says something.
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>>143417302
>nips
>taste
that's the funniest joke I've heard all day, anon
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>>143417285

If it weren't for event tickets and benefits the whole BD model would be completely dead instead of just basically dead.
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>>143417302
>I just think Japan is getting tired of shitty anime
> When something like GuP Der Film comes along it does well
Doesnt seem like they're tired of it at all.
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>>143417322

Shit gonna get said. Here's your (you), hope it makes you feel special.
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>>143417235
Not really. His point would only be proved if the anime industry collapsed, which hasn't happened. All that has been shown is a decrease in relevancy of the BD market.
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How did the newest season of SAO sell?
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>>143417319
it's always depressing to see how sales drop after the first volume
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>>143417302
People are also forgetting that Osomatsu sales prove that there are buyers out there willing to invest their money on something they enjoy. For the most part much of Spring anime are anime that has been told and executed relatively the same as before. But at the same time when we do get something "unique" like Joker Game even that flops. At this point you cant cater to the pandering otakus because they are bored of the same old, and you cant even sell to those who want a story. Anime industry as a whole is in a confusing place.

This is what they get for not supporting madhouse when they were the only studios producing actual intelligent stories with great animation. Now the industry is throwing trends at the wall and waiting for one to stick.
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>>143415550
what are these anyway? Actual sales? From where?
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>>143417360
> SAO
You mean IS clone? Aka Hundred/Ass-terisk?
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>>143417222

Not him but this is daily ranking actual sales


*20 *21 *22 *23 *24 *25 *26  週
*** *** *** **1 **1 **1 **1 | -- | おそ松さん 6 ( Osomatsu )
*** *** *** **3 **2 *10 **2 | -- | この素晴らしい世界に祝福を! 4 ( KonoSuba )
*** *** *** **5 **5 **6 **4 | -- | Re:ゼロから始める異世界生活 1 ( Re:Zero )
*** *** *** **2 **3 **4 **5 | -- | ARIA The ORIGINATION Blu-ray BOX ( Aria )
*** **6 **5 *15 **8 **5 **8 | -- | ハイスクール・フリート 1 ( Haifuri )
*** *** *** **7 **7 *11 *11 | -- | 文豪ストレイドッグス 1 ( Bungo Stray Dogs )
*10 *25 *24 *** *22 *13 *12 | -- | ガールズ&パンツァー 劇場版 ( Girls und Panzer )
**7 *30 *29 *** *21 *12 *13 | -- | 機動戦士ガンダム THE ORIGIN 3 ( Mobile Suit Gundam )
*** **9 **8 *29 *24 *18 *15 | -- | GATE 自衛隊 彼の地にて、斯く戦えり 10 ( Gate )
*** *** *** *19 *** *30 *16 | -- | ハンドレッド 1
*** *** *** **4 **4 **7 *17 | -- | 機動戦士ガンダム 鉄血のオルフェンズ 7
*** **4 **2 *17 *15 *14 *19 | -- | ジョジョの奇妙な冒険 ダイヤモンドは砕けない 1 ( JoJo )
*** **2 **3 *21 *14 *15 *22 | -- | 甲鉄城のカバネリ 1 ( Kabaneri )

Kabneri fell pretty hard.
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>>143417364
>madhouse
>actual intelligent stories
had me until there
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>>143417364
>People are also forgetting that Osomatsu sales prove that there are buyers out there willing to invest their money on something they enjoy.
But they're doing that with Love Live, Uta Prince, and GuP as well. Osomatsu isn' showing us something unique it's just that it came out of fucking nowhere much like GuP.
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>>143416646
Only shitposters and /v/ that doesn't know what these numbers means.
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>>143417360

Nowhere near as well as the latest game did.
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>>143417393
Okay that was a bit of bait and bitterness on my behalf. Seeing anime like Rainbow and Aoi Series flop just pisses me off.
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>>143415550
So what is the market model that's going to replace BDs and save anime going to be?
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>>143417364
>unique
Only non asian retards think that Joker Game is anything other than rehashed nip propaganda. It will probably flop because of the same face. The only thing which would save it is fujopandering and nostalgiafags.
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You faggots will never hear the end of it when you watch the anime adaptation (that was announced awhile back) of this.
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>>143417424
Streaming?
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>>143416859
Reminder love live airs next season
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>>143417424
Mobage and gatcha.
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>>143417438
I'm looking forward more to Shuumatsu.
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>>143417424
>going to be
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>>143417424
The only viable formats left for shitposting is streaming numbers.
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>>143417424
Movie rights to Hollywood?
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>>143417424
Look at ReLife. Im guessing streaming and catering to apps that carry the source as well is the new trend. Not a bad model in all honesty when you can finish a series and read the source in the same app.
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>>143417438
Isn't that the anime featuring the transexual loli yandere who was once an adult Hitler?
Thought the premise was kind of cute desu.
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>>143417458
Oh boy, can't wait for daily crunchyroll ranking threads!
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How are the CD and Album sales?
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>>143417451
Talking about shitposting. Man, if Nanasawa's works ever got adapted, it could save LN adaptations.
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>>143417473
Western streaming barely count shit, Chinese streaming is where it's at
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>>143417364

I love the borderline irony of the fact that Osomatsu basically rips on modern anime and figured it wouldn't be popular at all coming out of a 60's paradigm. And yeah even Japan noted that Spring was a season of top billed shows that are basically reductions of other popular things from a few years back. Somehow the anime industry feels stuck in 2011 yet unaware of the reasons and conditions as to why things went well for a lot of shows at the top of the decade and how to recapture what went right during that period.

Anyway yeah I feel this is the end result of that big long term bet the industry made on light novels and the same old shitty staff over and over again for it's future. The only one really to stay almost completely out of that paradigm has been Bandai Visual with few exceptions like Accel World and Horizon and then they jumped ship from doing LN adaptations at just the right time. Isekai stories seem to still do well enough at least, but I have this funny feeling of a third SAO season that doesn't even crack 10K average being a real possibility.
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>>143417478
Who cares? Idolmaster just broke another record and Love Live is still topping the charts with bullshit. The last time we saw a surprise monster hit in music was Sound Horizon's opening theme to Attack On Titan.
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>>143417507
>Idolmaster just broke another record and Love Live
How are others show doing?
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>industry dying
>can buy a sub to website to help
Why complain if you do nothing about it??
馬鹿外人
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>>143417467
I don't think they'll adapt beyond the second volume or even the first volume. And currently, I think this is operation notBarbarossa.
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>>143417483
I'm sure Shuumatsu will get plenty of shitposting.
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>>143416823
>niche in Japan
>gets referenced everywhere
>older than most of thos board users and still going
>inspiration for lots of shows
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>>143417507
Does this really count as breaking a record? It's like taking advantage of people who have lost their sense of financial responsibility thanks to gacha.
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>>143417478

Bandai crushed that one too. iDOLM@STER, Love Live and Walkure lapped the anime music competition with some really ridiculous hauls and there's still more to come. I guess that Egoist single did okay but that's just one single amidst a deluge of Walkure, Love Live and iDOLM@STER that individually all did better.
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馬鹿外人へ
たすけてください。
中国人へ
お金ください
日本人へ
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>>143417478
Endride is selling (as the OP)

14. *9,485 *,**9,485 Endride OP "Limit" by LUNA SEA
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>>143417497
>Somehow the anime industry feels stuck in 2011 yet unaware of the reasons and conditions as to why things went well for a lot of shows at the top of the decade and how to recapture what went right during that period
Less competition. Why do you think SEED sold so damn well? Because there was virtually no show that could compete against it and it was roughly the only show people were watching back then, as the years went on you saw more shows being made to compete with one another and the peak started getting lower.
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>>143417560
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>>143417557
>...
自分を殺します
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>>143417550

It's almost to the point where people just look past the Bamco idol releases. It's just kind of expected that whenever one gets released it takes top spot for anime that week and it's more interesting seeing what came in second or third
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>>143417575
(´°̥̥̥̥̥̥̥̥ω°̥̥̥̥̥̥̥̥`)
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>>143417045
>season didnt even started

never change nips
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>>143417566

It was also a day time show that came out before the late night anime industry really started picking up steam in the mid to late 2000's. Now a decade later it looks like it's winding down but the problem is most of the industry hopped completely on board it and adopted late night anime troping as the sole business model and now it doesn't seem to know how to get back off. The entities that stayed their initial course from before the late 2000's with some modest adjustments here and there have actually been doing better than the ones that looked at things like Haruhi and Bakemonogatari and decided that's where they had to go and as hard and fast as possible
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>>143417653
They will cancel the pre-order if it's bad.
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Anime industry starting going to shit the moment.

>Kyoani stopped becoming a sure hit.
>Key became a company that is throwing all their works at studios.
>Shaft being unable to sell over 30k with Gatari.
>JC Staff producing yucky ecchi.
>Madhouse becoming an LN adaption slave.
>Silver Link becoming a diet kyoani.
>Deen becoming good.
>Perriot having the highest selling anime of the decade.
>Mappa not being prime madhouse
>Trigger not saving anime
>Manglobe dying
>Where is Gonzo?
>All ecchi studios not making good harems like they used to
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>>143417682
>Where is Gonzo?
Hey, Gonzo did Sore Ga Seiyuu, don't forget it!
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>>143417682
I'm sorry anon, but most of those sound like great developments.
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>>143417682
Less anime and more good quality anime.

Also not 60 anime per season
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>>143417302
>I just think Japan is getting tired of shitty anime.
Really not the case.
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>>143416012
i still can't believe this, how do you fuck up a slice of life this bad? the ending WROTE ITSELF and they decided to go with the worst possible conclusion?

i'll be keeping an eye on sugiura's portfolio for the future
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>>143417713
Then they made that kick ball in the sky anime.
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>>143417713
Gonzo also did Aokana, which they did such a bad job on that I'd rather forget it ever existed.
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>>143417682
>Where is Gonzo?
On life support for the past 8 years and they lost their golden horse back then
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>>143417682
>>Silver Link becoming a diet kyoani.
How? They're doing like Ufotable.
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>>143417682

Fuck at least people are starting to notice. The anime industry has been in need of a course correction for at least a couple years now.

Also Pierrot doesn't have the highest selling anime of the decade, Sunrise does in every format.
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>>143417281
but is it?
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>>143417733

More tired in numbers that are noticeable now via their conspicuous absence in sales of late and the increase of murmurings of discontent. Not every season you get epic blowups like Kumamiko, Kabaneri etc.
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>>143417754
They consistently make quality stuff. Ufotable is just a cockslave to Type Moon.
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>>143416587
They will sell a lot more because the shows are female only
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When the Macross franchise is struggling to even do 15k you know its over for anime.
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>>143417740

Anime Industry is losing it's mind and almost nobody knows what they're doing when it comes to basic writing and decision making anymore. Modern Anime Industry people have problems and are possibly incompetent on an institutionalized level up and down the production chain. I expect more of things like Kumamiko Ending Scandal and the horror of people that didn't see it coming. Like it's kind of a black comedy of it's own in how much the anime industry doesn't get basic people and behavior anymore. Sad too see but kind of funny as it all comes crashing down.
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>>143417785
>Ufotable is just a cockslave to Type Moon.
Ufotable is working for Video games not only to typemoon.

They're doing Tales of Zestria anime this summer and you can be sure it's going to sell even if the story is shit because Bandai will bundle the game with it.
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Alright doommongers serious answer. Is anime fucked or not?
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>>143416973
sakamoto didn't sell? didn't that shit have a load of top-tier VA's? how the fuck will deen afford this?
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>>143417682
>caring about shitty little studios that cycle in and out endless
>meanwhile A-1 and Sunrise hold the core of the anime industry
>always sell well - even with Okada
>only real studio outside of those two is ufotable that does well ONLY with TMshit
I don't understand what your problem with the industry is if the core is still nice and steady.
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>>143417206
Most of fujoshi are poor as fuck, ofcourse they can't afford BD
they're as poor as those illegal immigrants in UK
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WITfags blown the fuck out. Remember when they said it would sell 30k at the start of the season? Then 15k halfway through the season? Then 10k at the end of the season?
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what outcomes do we have in the event that the whole industry DOES shit the bed?
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>>143417908
I dunno. I think a lot of them would live at home with their parents, in which case, they should have more money to spend than usual.
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>>143417851
No it wont be fucked because even with low sales most anime get their money back with reruns and other forms of revenues. Its just that instant gratification is becoming less and less a norm. Besides the industry has continued to change and adapt throughout its history.

Saying that anime is going to die is like saying movie industry is going to die because of low sales. They will move on and wait for another hit.

People dont realize that many anime today are backed by Universal, Sony, and other big companies. If they flop they can just write it off on their taxes. While losses arent as good as profits, it doesnt hurt the big guys. And with more anime being produced more studios are getting work and getting hired.
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>>143417682
Don't forget Actas fucked itself out of GuP profits.
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>>143417785

More like Bandai Namco. I'd have to check but I think they've worked on more projects for them than Type/Moon. Aside from Kara no Kyokai Anime, Fate UBW Anime and Fate/Zero Anime they've done Tales of Phantasia Anime, God Eater Anime, God Eater Game, God Eater 2 Game, Tales of Xillia Game, Tales of Xillia 2 Game, Tales of Zestiria Game Tales of Zestiria X Anime, Tales of Berseria Game and Summon Night 5.
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>>143417854
Konosuba money
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>>143417930
>it'll sell 30K as long as it doesn't shit the bed!
>it totally won't shit the bed!
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>>143417931
Western start funding anime that isn't moeshit.
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>>143416251
It has event ticket
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>>143417955
oh yeah, forgot about that
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>>143417944

Actas is a 100% Bandai Visual subsidiary so the money was always going there.
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>>143417954
only the type/moon one sold a lot.
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>>143417931
Netflix takes over the industry and starts commissioning shit
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>>143417936
Fujos are incredibly lucrative with little trinkets like keychains and accessories as well as things like certain recent drama CDs so that's the thing.
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>>143417424
If one doesn't work, MIX ALL

You buy a BD, give it a chuuni like name, like TM (Total Media).

This shit runs in your PC, and liberates an online stream site that unlocks that show. Shit gets saved in the cloud, so you don't need to find space in HD or in your home (for disks).

Ocasionally, after x shows in your online stream collection, you get a code for gatchas and events.

Add some "security" measures and hope it blends.
Who am I trying to fool. BDs+antipiracy killed the industry.
Japan is done.
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>>143417908
Most of them actually have jobs though, unlike otaku NEETS(who still somehow can affort BDs).
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>>143417983
Ah i didnt know this. Thank anon I actually learned on /a/
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>>143417930

Why would anyone ever think that would happen? There's only one show this year that's practically guaranteed those numbers in Love Live Sunshine cause of idols and event ticket schemes.
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>>143417931
The same thing Hollywood is doing now. Less things produced, more focus on safe money by producing sequels and reboots.
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>>143418022

I try
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>>143417930
There's only so much you can make out of a clone of a successful franchise, same for HaiFuri.
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>>143417682
>>Shaft being unable to sell over 30k with Gatari.
this was inevitable - but even then shaft still has other projects to bank on (zaregoto being one)
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>>143417898
Most sunrise shows flop.
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>>143417931
On one extreme? A dramatic shrinkage ala 2005.
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>>143416583
It was undoubtedly losing steam in its last few episodes but the final episode was just too much.
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>>143417931
Just less anime again.
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>>143417065
>15. *2,206 187,140 Girls und Panzer der Film Special Limited Edition
>2,206

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA Ded sales
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>>143417936
Male female wage gap in japan is really high, it's actually one og the highest wage gap in the world, not to mention the social stigma of working women in japan, if you're a women and working in japan, then you;re worse than a fucking whore

>http://rubyronin.com/the-shocking-truth-about-womens-salaries-in-japan/
>http://www.economist.com/news/briefing/21599763-womens-lowly-status-japanese-workplace-has-barely-improved-decades-and-country
>http://qz.com/548802/almost-half-of-japanese-working-women-are-told-theyre-causing-trouble-or-should-retire-when-they-get-pregnant/

>>143418016
>women in japan
>have a job
Good laugh
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>>143417829
the movie will sell.
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>>143418070

They have a higher hit rate than any other studio even to this year and are like the only ones actually still producing their own content as a studio. Every couple years they have a big hit it seems.
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>>143418107
>Male female wage gap in japan is really high
And there is nothing wrong with that. Most women don't get shit done.
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>>143418070
>Love Live
>Accel World
>Horizon
>Code Geass
>Tiger&Bunny
>fucking Gundam

Sunrise can afford a few Buddy Complexs and Sacred Sevens every year. Overall Sunrise is one of the most earning studios. It's the biggest studio for a reason.
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>>143416829
That's because they went with an anime original ending that removed all of the protagonists meaningful "struggle".
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>>143417829
Macross just recently returned into televancy, it was never a consistent seller.
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Its not like otakus just stopped buying anime. There is a reason why gup and osomatsu and idolshit is selling. Otakus just stopped paying for the same old story over and over again.
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>>143417682
>>Silver Link becoming a diet kyoani.
Isn't that more fitting for P.A. Works? Most of their shows are shit attempts to follow KyoAni hits.

Not like KyoAni has made anything good since five years ago.

>>JC Staff producing yucky ecchi.
>>Deen becoming good.
Not really consistent with that. J.C. Staff did both good and bad ecchi. And Deen was good when they were founded, became complete shit and now produces both stuff like Rakugo and Konosuba.
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>>143418132
Thats not true at all.
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>>143417829

I feel this was inevitable too but I don't remember anything other than Macross Frontier really being a mega seller.
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>>143416048
>GuP
Girls und Panzer marketing push was shit, nobody noticed it after 3 episodes, they even made too few blu rays that the 1st and 2nd Blu Ray supply was sold out and they had to make more. Most of the hype came from the viewers and those Ooarai guys.
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>>143418170
So why did F sell 40k? Macross always held strong with its fanbase.
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>>143418196
F is like the only Macross that did that well.
Most impact came from non-Macross fans who just happend to enjoy it back then.
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>>143418183
Macross Zero sold 22k
I don't about Macross 7 but i heard that the group "Fire bomber" was popular. I don't know about Plus and SDF.
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>>143418174
PA is too hit and miss. Charlotte and the Hibike ripoff were terrible while Shirobako and Kuromukuro are great. However, at least they try to do original stuff and don't copy Kyoani at all. Kyoani just does crappy adaptations of LNs they own while most of PA's stuff is original.
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>>143418196
>So why did F sell 40k?
F was a recall to the 1st macross.
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>>143417065
>12. *2,603 **2,603 Bungou Stray Dogs Vol.1 Limited Edition
HAHAHAHAH
Fujos only bought this for event ticket and all those male voice actors that will be there
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>>143418231
Making original anime doesn't automatically make them a better studio.
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>>143418196
tv programme recording was still a niche thing back then and it did air at pretty late times
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>>143418070
>make 10 flops
>make a gundam
>make 15 flops
>make a gundam
>still in the green every year
Wow, it's like Sunrise started smart with a strong franchise then built whatever they wanted from there.
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>>143417682
Statelight, Silver Link and Periott are still chugging along fine.
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Why i should buy BD when i can pirate it or record it on TV?
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>>143418107
>wage gap
Good laugh
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>>143418297
>Statelight
Literally thanks to music anime
>Silver Link
How?
>Pierrot
Thanks to Osomatsu-san.
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>>143418221
7 and Fire Bomber were really popular back then. But if I remember right two weeks after 7 ended Evangelion started airing and the rest is story. SDF and DYRL are iconic. Plus hasn't sold that well compared to other entries.

>>143418196
F was the right kind of series coming out at the right time. Also, it was the first Macross tv show in 14 years and thus it felt new and surprising to new fans. The music and the romance also helped a lot. In comparison Delta to me feels like it's geared more towards people who are already Macross fans, many of them thanks to F. Walkure are getting popular, though.
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>>143418177
They're so successful they even funded other studios projects.
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/anime.php?id=16822

They even have their own mini film festival.

http://www.sunrise-inc.co.jp/sunfes/index.php
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>>143418177

Love Live, Tiger and Bunny, Gundam Unicorn, Accel World, Horizon on The Middle of Nowhere, Gundam Iron Blooded Orphans, Gundam: Reconguista in G, Gundam Build Fighters, Gundam 00, Code Geass, Space Battleship Yamato 2199, Gintama, Zeta Gundam A New Translation, Gundam The Origin, Aikatsu and that's just some stuff from the last decade or so. I don't see any other studio with that kind of catalog or hitting up that many different kinds of demographics over that period of time.
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>>143417089
Love live will break 100k but only because there are lottery tickets for concerts bundled in.
That's why otaku buy dozens volumes instead one.
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>>143418191

It's kind of on the opposite end of the spectrum from Haifuri isn't it?
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>>143418336
I meant it more in terms of quality. Good to know that two are fine financially as well.
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Obviously the most important question now is when will shit slowly go down? When will the number of shows airing per season decrease? When will alternative sources of revenue start overtaking BDs? When will the the cannibalization end? Two years? Five years? Seven?
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>>143418344
>Space Battleship Yamato 2199

Pretty sure that's Xebec.
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>>143415898
It's still failure for Jewniplex, they probably expected half of GuP sales for first volume.
It's another of their rip-offs failure, just like VVO (which was Strike witches clone)
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>>143418285
This.
Sunrise couldn't give less of a shit.
Oh did we make too many flops? Just make more Love Live and Gundam and we can swim in money again!

You want the amateur staff to try and make an anime? Sure it will be good training! Meanwhile we'll make more Love Live to grab spare cash!
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>>143418285

I like how most of that stuff did well enough to potentially be the best seller in this season.
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>>143418343
That was not what we were discussing, fact of the matter is that most Sunrise shows are either flops or have mediocre sales.

"They have a higher hit rate than any other studio" is completely false, see >>143418285
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>>143415550
ANOTHER PROOF THAT STALKERSHIT-THREADS AND PREDICTIONS ARE WORTHLESS
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>>143418336
>Silver Link
Fate/kaleid liner Prisma Illya 3rei! will sell 5K average probably
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>>143418336
SL is still doing fine. Prisma will probably go on for yet another year and the Strike Witches torch has been passed down to them.
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>>143418344
See >>143418285 and sit your fat ass down
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>>143418376
The number of shows isn't decreasing because alternative sources of revenue are already in place. If they had to subsist on disc sales I can guarantee you we would already be seeing half the number of shows per season.
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>>143417682
>JC Staff producing yucky ecchi
This, Soma and prison school are great and all but their highschool romance and raildex printed money
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>>143418285
>make a gundam that flops
>make a lovelive
>make a lovelive that flops is that possible?
>make a gundam UC
Sunrise literally prints money during ANY season they want to. Based.
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>>143418410
Basically just AIC at Silver Link at this point.
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>>143415693
There won't be 2nd cour
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>>143418465

Isn't IMS comprised mostly of the AIC crew?
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>>143418343

They're the only anime studio besides Ghibli to be nominated for an Oscar too. Ghibli won one though. Sunrise got nominated for Short Peace. Also Miss Hokusai which the funded and produced with Production I.G has been picking up a lot of critics awards including 3 Fantasia International Film Festival Nods. Along with that and the whole rich and huge as fuck thing if I'm betting on anyone to survive an anime industry apocalypse it'd be them.
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>>143418482
Silver link is helmed by ex-shaft dudes.
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>>143418377

Xebec x Sunrise with Bandai Visual as producer. Xebec handled the character scenes and animation, Sunrise all the mechanics and ship battle stuff.
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>>143418285
>Horizon

And where's season 3?
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>>143418107
Good, my little fat burger eat more of west propaganda. They want you to think that burgerland is the best place to live.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NbElewFH464

This will save Kyoani.
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>>143418405

Most stuff was pretty close to the estimate and has easily explained modifications. If you want to be mad at anything focus it on Bungou Stray Dogs and maybe Kabaneri of The Iron Fortress
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>>143418523
Ex-JC Staff, you mean. Only Shinbo's old right hand man is the actual SHAFT dude there.
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>>143418523
>dudes
Literally 1 person and the rest are from JC Staff
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>>143418428

How is most of that stuff on that list flops? What is your benchmark for not a flop? Most of the stuff I mentioned is on that list so what the fuck are you on about?
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Sunrise can do whatever they want.

They can let their directors and writers do any wishlist project and train them this way while making bank with safebets like Gundam, Geass or Love Live. Even the fucking Geass picture drama with next to zero animation made more money than anything else around its time.

Kyoani are keeping it safe by keeping everything in house. They are skilled in what they do and know how to keep the profit all in their hands. It doesn't make them big but atleast they don't depend on anyone.

Production I.G works similar to Sunrise except they give their own studios more freedom. But in general the pressure to succeed is far higher than that of Sunrise.

Toei has all the connections to get the big mainstream titles and so they will never die. They have zero freedom to do anything else though.

And most other studios are just the bitches of big producers like Aniplex or Kadokawa and depend on what they get.
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>>143418592
IG has so many ports and subs that they are fine even if they flop.
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>>143418540

They're aren't interested. Why do light adaptations when you can make your own shit. They even said they mainly just did it for the challenge, practice and experience.
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>>143418608
They have the freedom to let their divisions do their own thing without them needing to worry about their existence but its not like I.G has much to rely on. In general they make profit but its not like they can shit out another UC Gundam to make big bank for the next few years.
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how are the sales for Sailor Moon Crystal S3?
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2016 is the year of anime they said
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>>143418654
Shit like all morning anime but its not like it matters. Sailor Moon lives on merchandise and TV ratings like Conan.
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>>143418654
>caring about Toei sales
That's like asking how many bullets did Amurifats sell to sandpeople this year, Anon.
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TV Anime Global Mean Average Sales from 2000 to 2016

Bones - 6,584
Gainax - 6,483
KyoAni - 23,362
Madhouse - 3,231
PA Works - 8,837
Production IG/WIT - 7,834/14,876
UFOTABLE - 18,968
Sunrise - 16,661
SHAFT - 14,718
Trigger - 4,819

Global Mean Average Sales from IG in the past 5 years - 8,781

Global Mean Average Sales from KyoAni in the past 5 years - 12,528

Global Mean Average Sales from SHAFT in the past 5 years - 21,431

Global Mean Average Sales from Ufotable in the past 5 years - 35,858
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>>143418664
Who the hell would say that?
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>>143418692
after watching all the new anime announced for 2016
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>>143418683
Ufotable are young and everything that isn't Fate sells like shit if it comes from them.

SHAFT is just Aniplexs bitch and Kyoani are way past their prime. They could only build their current position with all that Key-money.
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>>143417065
>17. *2,052 **2,052 Futsuu no Joshikousei ga [Locodol] Yatte Mita. OVA Vol.2
I guess it's not bad.
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>>143418323
collectors item.

Why do people buy vinyl records?
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>>143418730
>everything that isn't Fate sells like shit
knk sold 64k
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>>143418744
Okay. I should have said ''Nasuverse''
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>>143415550
>*1,809 00/02 Kuma Miko
What happened here?
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>>143418761
the ending
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>>143418743
Because there are bonuses to having analog systems producing sound. Further they actually look cool and are distinctly different. What's the difference in a dvd and a bd? It's the same shit. You get a whole different experience listening to a vinyl player and turning over for b-sides than you do with a FLAC.
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>>143416812
>reddit-lite hugbox around here
Now this is shitposting
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>>143418761
The last 4 episodes were original and the nips hated them.
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>>143418730

Nice butthurt. and their best sellers arent even key shows .
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>>143418761
It went to the Zeta Gundam school of series finale.
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http://yaraon-blog.com/archives/87072

I've got quite different figures.
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>>143417989
Are you implying games didn't sell?
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>>143416816
>>143416874
>Okada's original script
You mean the one in which Kudelia had three 'surprise brothers' as final bosses in S1? You haven't read that script, you fucking idiot, you have a vague idea of it from a single 4chan post, translated from twitter. And it sounded bad, REAL bad. The typical Okada-bad, retardedly edgy and hilariously overdramatic.
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>>143418870
talking about animes.
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>>143418559
I am mad that stalkershit threads aren't banned from /a/
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>>143418719
Fuck off, shitstain. Even Drifters will flop
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>>143418927
i don't care about driftes TV anime (OAV series would have been better). The manga is selling 320k and more per volumes and that's all i need to know.
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>>143418458
>>make a lovelive that flops is that possible?
Sunshine will flop because they replaced the girls people love and supported for years with a bunch of literal who sluts.
I hope nip LLfags will be mad enough to boycott this shit. Sure it might still make like 10k because some people are fine with eating up any shit, but it would still be a huge flop compared to how µ's did.
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I am seriously looking forward to next season. There is waaaay more otome/shoujo shows than usual coming out so it's going to be interesting.

I fully expect Love Live Sunshine to steamroll everything but wouldn't it be funny if somehow it fucks up?
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>>143418963
How about capitalization, you fucking /v/shit?
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>>143418977
didn't the aquours album sell 81k?
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>>143415770
>What happened to the all mighty otaku dollars? Are the neets finally die off?

Saving for Love Live Sunshine
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>>143418982
Yeah, more time for backlog
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>>143418977
Eh, they'll be sluts they love and support soon.
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>>143417045
Didn't Herz sell like absolute garbage? Why is this getting yet another fucking season?
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>>143418611
Fuck them then
>>
The neets moved on from anime to gacha.
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>>143418761
Even the author didn't like the ending.
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>>143418761
Self-insertion GONE WRONG sexually explitcit R18++
and a severe case of shit taste as usual
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>>143418977
No way in hell the new shit live is flopping. It will sell 60k at least
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I find it fascinating a comparison of the industry now compared to 10 years ago and how different it was. And I continue to wonder what it will be like 10 years from now. Probably something we can't even predict like VR anime becoming a thing or web novels getting adaptations
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>>143418963
>shows made for the purpose of increasing source materials
>shitposts about not caring about anime
>says that cares for source materials sellings

What the fuck
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>>143418611
>Why do light adaptations when you can make your own shit.
Well, Sunrise has been making just that, shit, lately. I wish they did something good for a change of pace instead of Love Garbage or weak attempts at mech shows like Vulvarape or Cross Ange.
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>>143419146
I don't care about the TV anime. I'm waiting the OAV series.
I don't know if the anime will boost the source material sales for drifters, it's already a big fanbase of fujoshit and the anime will probably air late.
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>>143417682
>Madhouse becoming an LN adaption slave.
IT STILL HURTS

Not all of that is bad though
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>>143418761
FURYYY
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>>143418683
>Madhouse
>Trigger
Simply perfect.
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>>143418853
It's the same numbers. They've added BD sales + DVD sales together.
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>>143418196
2008 was a very different industry than 2016 and Frontier had to win an entire audience back. Back then, pandering out the ass actually translated to good sales.

Frontier is so old that it was one of the first anime to have more BD sales than DVD. That was considered big news back then compared to now. The economic situations can't compare. That said, I'm pretty sure Delta will do well for a 2016 show, it's on track for it
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>>143416086
What don't you guys understand, the only thing that actually matters to anyone is first week sales, everything doing well know will eventually hit 10k who gives a fuck?
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>>143415550
>*6,672 00/06 Hai-Furi

Good. Gay sailors saves the day.
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>>143419219
The economic situation was worse.
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>>143419135
Only big differences I see is that we get slightly more shows now, a lot of fujoshit and anime generally looks better.
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>>143415550
>*6,880 00/03 Kabaneri
SnK killer they said

>*6,672 00/06 Ship Girls Not Kancolle Edition
Next GUP they said

>*6,346 00/09 Re: Zero
Next SAO they said

>*5,940 00/06 Bungo-Stray-Dogs
Next Kekkai Sensen they said

>*2,826 00/06 Bakuon!!
Next K-on they said

>*1,508 01/06 Kiznaiver
Savior of anime they said™
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>>143416309
Not him but it was easily the best show this season, besides re:zero being down right cringe, Reddit likes it but it's 2 cour there is simply more of it.

It's bound to pass kabaneri some day
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>>143418592
>Toei has all the connections to get the big mainstream titles and so they will never die. They have zero freedom to do anything else though.
But they can. They just don't want or need to
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>>143419249
>Next K-on
But no one said this, it's just literally molded after it
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>>143419293
>one project in 10 years excuses the endless dryhumping of big mainstream shonen

Kyousougiga was so special that it got that kind of attention.
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>>143419237
Which is why I said "pandering out the ass meant good sales" back then compared to now and Frontier captured that in spades.

Something like Haifuri back in 2008 would make like 50k.
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>>143415778
VVV and GC are both 2 cour.
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>>143419221
>the only thing that actually matters to anyone is first week sales
Not even, sales are announced weekly, so even if a show was out for just the weekend, that's still counted as "weekly sales".

>everything doing well know will eventually hit 10k
Not by a loooong shot.
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People are forgetting Amazon played a hefty price for streaming rights for Kabanari. These sells are fine when you add other forms of revenue.
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>>143419369
And? That only makes it worse for Kabaneri.
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>>143419379
Yeah but you also have to consider how much it clearly underperformed compared to the show it was ripping off as well as Guilty Crown which was a massive disappointment as well.
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>>143418070
You know, you people should really start reading up on the industry shit first. And in the case of Sunrise, you don't have an excuse since Banco's financial reports are available in English. Sales of BDs don't matter as much since Banco is fine with it as long as merchandise is going strong.
>>
Anyone has the sales for those?
2016-01-29 マクロスプラス MOVIE EDITION [Blu-ray]
2016-01-29 劇場版 マクロス7 銀河がオレを呼んでいる! [Blu-ray]
2016-01-29 超時空要塞マクロス 愛・おぼえていますか [Blu-ray]
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>>143418107
>muh wage gap meme
The magical word is "earn". There is literally nothing wrong with the lazy cunts earning less if they decide to stay at home instead of working.
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>>143419249
>SnK killer they said
Turned out to be even worse than Guilty Crown and SnK's bad points combined, well done.

>Next GUP they said
Turned out to be chink bootleg-tier GuP "we want the kancolle audience".

>Next SAO they said
Craaawling in my skiiiin these wooounds they will heaaaal (and I don't want them to) MC manages to be even worse than Kirito. That takes effort.

>Next Kekkai Sensen they said
Both are utter garbage so meh.

>Next K-on they said
Take K-ON, take everything that made it appealing out, shove in some unappealing shit and we get BaK-on!

>Savior of anime they said™
Trigger and Okada and there will still be some people that claim to be surprised it was literal shit.

Stellar fucking season this was. Can't wait for more trash this summer.
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>>143418910
Filter thread is hard rite?
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>>143419301
It's been a year already, since edgy bitch was created, and people still say this.
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>>143419441
>2016-01-29 マクロスプラス MOVIE EDITION [Blu-ray]
劇場 1,040 *,*** 16.01.29 ※Blu-ray

>2016-01-29 超時空要塞マクロス 愛・おぼえていますか [Blu-ray]
劇場 3,897 4,489 4,953 16.01.29 ※Blu-ray

>2016-01-29 劇場版 マクロス7 銀河がオレを呼んでいる! [Blu-ray]
No idea
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>>143419490
good post
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>>143419441
○マクロスプラス MOVIE EDITION
巻数 初動 2週計 発売日
劇場 1,040 *,*** 16.01.29 ※Blu-ray

I'm not going to bother to look for the rest, but you should be able to google it pretty easily.
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>>143419042
Because BD sales aren't everything, you fucking retard
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>>143418555
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NbElewFH464 [Embed]
>This will save Kyoani.

If KyoAni could usher an era of direct-to-film adaptations, we're going to see a lot of pretty stuff in LONG time gaps
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>>143419171
OVA will never happen
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>>143419490
>There are people in this very thread that don't think Trigger is a shit studio.
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>>143419193
What about Kinema citrus?
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>>143418231
Original as in not directly based on an existing franchise, but almost everything they is similar to KyoAni shows in either looks, setting or themes.

The two shows you mention are the rare exceptions.
>>
>>143418982
>There is waaaay more otome/shoujo shows than usual coming out so it's going to be interesting.

Fucking otaku needs to step up

They can't be overrun
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>>143419517
>It's been a year already, since edgy bitch was created
Nigga edgy bitch was made for shitposting the fuck out of Mekaku shitty actors two years ago
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>>143419632
ok.
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>>143419639
Are there any good studios?
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>>143418196
I think F is more like an exception to the Macross franchise. For one thing, it had a shit load more music than all the previous other series. SDF has Minmei just singing that Little Whit Dragon song most of the time and then got OBOETEIMASUKA for the movie. M7 had Basara and Mylene singing HEY EVERYBODY for 40+ episodes. Meanwhile, Sheryl alone had so many damn singles within like half the episode count of M7.
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>>143418982
I would fucking celebrate if Love Live flopped.
However, if I have to pick between fujoshit/otomecrap and Love Live, I'd pick Love Live.

I just want the next "original no one expects anything out of turns out to be absolutely amazing and a massive success". This has to happen sooner or later.
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>>143419595
That's not how you embed.
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>>143419731
>I just want the next "original no one expects anything out of turns out to be absolutely amazing and a massive success". This has to happen sooner or later.

C'mon Flip Flappers!
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>>143416280
Rewrite is going to sell like shit, Prisma doesn't sell more than 3K and Amanchu is not going to get Aria's numbers at all.

The only saving grace for the season is Sunshine.
>>
>>143416613
The advantage that Kabaneri has is that it's only 3 volumes. Even with a drop it'll surely manage to sell better than Re:Zero (9 volumes) and maybe Haifuri.

Re:Zero though, being 2-cour and the anime with the highest boost of the season, has still chances to improve its numbers.
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>>143419787
Actually it might. BD boxset for Aria did 12k which shows a fanbase thats there. And Amanchu has all the traits of Aria from the PV alone. I wouldnt be suprised if Amanchu sells 10K+.
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>>143419731
>I just want the next "original no one expects anything out of turns out to be absolutely amazing and a massive success". This has to happen sooner or later.

They need to explore other genres that make male otaku like something they didn't know they even liked before
>>
>>143419731
>"original no one expects anything out of turns out to be absolutely amazing and a massive success"
When was the last time this happened?
>>
>>143419713
>For one thing, it had a shit load more music than all the previous other series.
That's not true at all. Frontier has more singles because they didn't do collected sets until late in the show but 7 had many many Fire Bomber albums as well by the end of the series and the Walkure were doing like 1 or 2 new songs an episode for like 10 episodes straight for their first Vocal Collection with the show only half over
>>
>>143419851
Madoka?

>>143419846
I've never heard of Amanchu but if the most positive endorsement you can give it is "It's similar to another show", I think we've been proven that this does not work.

Aria sold because it's fucking Aria.
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>>143419846
Chances are really low unless the adaptation manages to be godlike.
This season had at least two good examples of copying a winning formula that doesn't exactly work as intended.
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>>143419851
Tiger & Bunny.
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>>143419851
Only ones that qualify this decade are probably Madoka and Girls und Panzer.
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>>143419881
>>143419894
GuP is most recent.
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>>143419731
What is GuP?
What is Shirobako?

>>143416973
>Anne Happy
RIP IN PIECES ANNE
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>>143415550
>*2,593 00/06 Flying Witch
Whoah. Wasn't this show really well-received in nipland? What's with those numbers?

Like literally no SoL this season sold remotely well despite the shows being good.
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>>143419232
I don't really understand Haifuri success, it wasn't good nor appealing in any ways or shapes. I'm not talking about it writting qualities, nobody expected anything from it to begin with but on the rest:
-Hardly any fanservice
-Yuri shipping barely present. And like your pic is showing; a bit off
-Awkward naval warfare.
-Rather bad animation and CGI.
-Even those who watched the show to the end found the SoL part and humor boring.

It did everything but was a miss on everything.
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>>143415929
Kill yourself.
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>>143419906
Forgot about that one

>>143419920
>What is Shirobako?
S2 fucking never
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>>143419936
Remember most of the SoL shows are adaptations so their sales don't matter that much for the studios
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>>143415983
>Garbage always finds its way to the top.
>haifuri shit not quoted
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>>143419936
SoL doesn't sell. Keion is an outlier.
Even NNB sold on average less than 10k.
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>>143420028
Haifuri is /a/'s AOTS
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>>143420036
Nobody fucking watched Haifuri. Even Memeyoiga got more attention than it
>>
>>143420104
Excuse me? Everybody watched Haifuri, if you were not part of the threads or didn't see them then shut up.
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>>143420104
>He didn't watch Haifuri
Did you only watch 2 shows total or what?
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>>143416973
>2016/06/22 Anne Happy v1
This trash deserves to flop.

>>143416987
>>143417032
>muh yurishit deserves to sell!
Kill yourself.
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>>143417302
>I just think Japan is getting tired of shitty anime.
Not when Haifuri and Love live are selling.
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>>143420104
>implying
Mayoiga thread was full of the same ciclejerkers, everyday. Of course you'd think it got more attention
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>>143417560
Good, the OP song is actually good.
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>>143420405
>implying I watched it for the yuri

The dyke acting like a dyke was the worst part.
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>>143418482
Who knows, because there's a clear quality drop. Perhaps all the good people left.
AIC was never as horrendous as IMS.
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>>143419774
>yurishit
>selling
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>>143419232
Kill yourself yurishitter.
You have no fucking taste whatsoever.
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>>143417908
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>>143416736
>>143417214
Isn't that the writer?
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>>143420036
>crossboarding yurifag minority account for all of /a/
Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha
You can't be serious.
Kill yourself deluded yurishitter.
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>>143419665
Oh, that's right, we're in 2016

For some reason, I was thinking Magi ended last year.
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>>143420121
>>143420547
Memeyoiga had a consistent 120 or so IPs, way more than what GuP ripoff got.
Haifuri got maybe one or two threads on airing day, because all the hype died from the starting few episodes.
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>>143421220
Kill yourself memetard.
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>>143421240
>>143421240
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>>143418016
It doesn't matter if you're an otaku neet if you can still save the anime industry with the BDs
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>>143421306
Hang yourself yuriscum.
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>>143418107
>wage gap
Into the trash it goes.
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>>143417253
Last burst.
>>
lul..Konosuba 10 episodes more than 10k..Re:Zero with more episodes less than that
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>>143419464
Whatever helps you sleep at night.
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>>143421168
https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/interest/2016-06-23/kumamiko-creator-remarks-on-cruel-comment-in-final-episode-script/.103547

Oh, yeah, it was the writer.
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>>143417154
It is, so much shit people are actually watching but nips have shit taste
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>>143417379
I'm pretty sure it's the only original one that list and this is its first 1 cour installment, it still had better first week sales then nearly everything. It did good idk why you guys are so hard on it
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