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How smug are you /a/rc-v?
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>>143342330
Very.
If smug means thirsty for tomatoes
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~Yuya a best~
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>>143342458
It's like they're trying to make every villain a joke now.
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The smuggest.
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>>143342503
From the very start, Grace was looking for 'tanoshi'.
Enter the guy whose catchphrase is
>tanoshimi wa kore kara da

Pottery
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>>143342503
I feel like they're trying to get some last minute levity out before everything goes to shit and the cast dies in the assault on academia/hitotsu ni.
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>>143342458
She is so thirst as I am for my monster.
>>143337906
Somebody blank this, this is for meme purpose, aka, "And no EGAO where lost today" or some stupid shit like that
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Every thread until he returns. Just one week left to go!
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>>143342771
>that english
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Yuya better fill Grace belly with his white stuff once the war is over.
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>>143342839
As if you're not going to start shitposting again the moment he's off-screen.
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>>143342845
As soon as he sees Yuzu again literally no one else is going to matter to him.
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>>143342839
Good for you!
>>143342845
L-lewd
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>more Red-Eyes support
>holy shit Frog support
>except
>except
>except
Goddammit just have the cards renamed, Tewart you son of bitch.
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>>143342895
After doing this for way longer than I ever planned? No way. If someone does that it will be another Dennisfag.
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>>143342935
>implying he wont be in hitotsu nii by then
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Sawatari is gonna get murdered by Yuri and there's nothing the rest of the jobber lancer squad can do about it
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>>143342550
>mieru
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>>143343233
No
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>>143343233
>Even in a doujin, Sawatari is too pathetic that he had to disguise as Reiji to get close to Yuya.
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>>143343098
>When one Dennisfag falls, another rises
Truly, we are all Dennisfags.
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>>143343337
>not wanting to cosplay as Reiji
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>>143343145
And Yuzu is perfect to fit the bill to calm him down.
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The script is already out why hasn't anyone post it yet?
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>>143344079
Really? I can't even find the Raw yet
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http://pastebin.com/zcm2E6x6
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>>143344134
Is it out too.
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>>143342330
111 Raw anyone? It's not on nya
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First for Kurosaki a best
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I suppose this episode will come out with subs tomorrow considering how sexy yuya looked. And we all know Mono loves Yuya.
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Who here /autistic/ ?
>started episode one 3 weeks ago
>at episode 103 atm
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>>143344777
Well... I am. I have to be honest with those numbers except that is asperger but that's besides the point
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>>143344777
Wish I had that luxury when I started. Been here since like ep 6, riding it out one ep at a time.

What do you think so far?
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>>143343476
I swear if this fucker doesn't go to fusion dimension, I travel to Japan and locate the writers of this show and stab them to death.
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>>143344909
best book your flight then anon
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>>143344777
Do you play Yugioh?
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>>143344899
First 30 episodes were pretty boring, but the moment it hit Miami championship, it didn't stop
Jack vs Sergey is objectively the greatest duel ever
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>>143344909
I mean he's obviously going there to save Ruri eventually. It's just a matter of whether he'll wake up in time to go with Yuya and co. or if he'll join them later.
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>>143344909
He and his babies will go to Fusion, don't fret. The only known shot we've seen was a standing one and we know he can't do that at the moment.
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Grace is so mindbroken. I wonder if she'll pin down her sister and force the struggling, sweaty Gloria Nee-San to take the Egao so that they're both broken slaves of entame forever.
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>>143344226
>Yuya: Ladies and gentlemen!
>Grace: Here it comes!

>Edo: Smile World! (Egao Count: 194+1=195)
>Noro: Oh! This is…!
>Grace: No matter how many times I see it, it always makes me feel happy!
>Gloria: Hah…Again?

>Edo: I lost…
>I lost to Entertainment once again…
>Grace: He did it! That was awesome!
>Noro: With this, my position is secure!
>Gloria: Is this really the time to be celebrating this!?
>We lost repeatedly to the Lancers!
>If the Professor learns about this…
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>>143344975
Yeah, DevPro
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>>143344909
He will go there. And sleep through the rest of the series.
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>>143345002
He's going to have a big damn heroes moment after her recovers.
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>>143344976
>Jack vs Sergey is objectively the greatest duel eve
My nigga i think the same although Yuya Vs Jack is pretty good too
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>>143344134
>Raw
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x4if25b
the only thing I found
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>>143344941
>Cheapest flight is over 850€
Well fuck, any other options to bully the writers?
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>>143344909
He's prolly gonna appear with Edo in Fusion.
>All appears lost at Ruri Tower with everyone surrounded
>REVOLUTIONARY AIR RAID
>The screen pans up to show a squadron of D-Heroes riding Raid Raptors flying into focus with Edo and Shun standing arms folded riding atop Ultimate Falcons as they storm the place
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>>143345111
Better than nothing, thanks. Nice gets.
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>>143345013
Grace just doesn't really care anymore. She is gone. Poor Gloria
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>>143345145
negative thoughts
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Yuya didn't xyz summon. Time to riot
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>>143345313
Who cares about that, Yuya did the ENTAME thing again and nothing else matters in this episode!
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>>143345360
XYZZZZ we probably won't even see requiem ever again
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>>143345313
>Yuya didn't xyz summon. Time to riot
Why the fuck do you want him to do another XYZ summon? He already has three XYZ monsters. We don't need another one
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>>143345360
Grace pls
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>>143345451
Two of those belong to Yuto
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>>143345432
The writers would rather give him fusion. Fusion scum confirmed.
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>>143345432
I dunno. I think we'll probably see all the upgraded dragons in the duel vs Yuri.
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>>143345565
XYZ represents rage and anger. If that's the case we won't be seeing him XYZ summon anytime soon. Fusion summon however will most likely be prominent this arc.
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>>143345598
Ha, you know that duel got scrapped just like the yugo duel.
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That episode and duel were so bad I have a feeling detractors will use them when talking about how Arc-V has fallen. It had everything in it that I dislike about Arc-V.
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>>143345659
And rightfully so, the duels lately have been garbage.
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>>143343337
Is it scanned? Never seen it before

>>143345489
Grace becoming a Lancer just so she can get closer to Yuya when?
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>>143345659
mind elaborating?
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First character who BTFO Egao World saves Arc-V

Hitotsu-Ni, OmniYuzu, Declan, Bakura, whoever does it saves this show
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>>143345658
I almost feel like Yugo vs Yuri got scrapped, too
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>>143345828
>Implying Egao world can get BTFO'd

Enjoy the ride.
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Academia carding Monarchs when
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>>143345659
The duel was good in my opinion, I've seen a lot of positive feedbacks from the nips on Twitter.
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>>143345889
>UNDERSTANDING all over again
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>>143345793
Probably never, Yuya's leaving her next episode. Not that there was anything between them in the first place.
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>>143345657
Beast eyes
Rune eyes
Brave eyes
Vortex
Fusion pendulum

Then if metal claw gets printed and strave venom gets a new form thats 8 fusions yuya can do. 9 if he makes yet another pendulum dragon. This is insane
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>>143345925
The same nips that aren't watching the show?
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>>143346035
I don't see how that has something to do with enjoying an episode.
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>>143345935
Whoa, is she okay?
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I HATE MONARCHS
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>>143345659
The episode and the duel were both a lot of fun in my opinion. It made me smile but that's probably because I've always liked the core theme of Arc-V.

Also really looking forward to next week.
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>>143346069
Because a small audience enjoying the episode means nothing in the grade scheme of things. Last night we had tons of people here hating the episode which is another small audience.
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Daily reminder that if you play any of the following

D/D
Buster Blader
PSYframes

You deserve to be treated as an enemy to the state and hanged at earliest possible chance
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>>143346206
>Tons
By tons you mean about about 5 or 10 anons?
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Honestly I'm just on the ride to watch it crash

I got piss drunk with a friend and went driving with him last night out of a subconcious desire to crash and die

That's kind of my stance on Arc-V now
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>>143346261
You seem a little bit angered, anon. What makes you unleash such rage?
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>>143346261
>not Monarchs in there
If you use this shit, you deserved to be erased along with ALL the nostalgia shit that are killing ALL the franchises
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>>143346443
I only use RaidRaptors like a good little fanboy
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>>143346286
Which is more than enough to gauge an opinion if we are using baseless tweets as the measuring stick. The people who are still sticking to the show like it and its themes. Of those people some are upset with the way it's turning out. If you start a movie with 100 people watching and 80 leave sometime during the movie you have a problem. Then amongst that 20 left you have 5 or so complaining or saying they're only watching to see how how it ends or other reasons other than pure enjoyment.
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>>143346261
>Buster Blader
Why is that in there?
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>>143346561
Because I have a professional DevPro player as a friend and he knows how to lock you so hard with that deck
He plays BB/Blue eyes and he does it so well
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>>143346636
>professional DevPro player
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>>143346711
Yugioh, same shit, I'd like to see any of you going against him, he's a legit D/D and BB god
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>>143346780
Ask him his opinion of Neo Blue-Eyes Ultimate Dragon, please.
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>>143342330
>Episode finished airing almost 10 hours ago
>Still no raws
Why?
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>>143345659
What?
Maybe this show is not for you, nigga.
It was really fun, Yuya being smug and following his ideal and not fucking the shit up was great.
It get serious boring when all he does is failing. We already know that things will go pretty bad in fusion arc, let Yuya shine a little.
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>>143346636
>>143346711
>>143346780
Everyone know that you play a lot of times better with a deck/monster that you really like/love to play, reasons of why sometimes you find a BA player still playing that deck (pure and sometimes with Malacoda). It doesn't happen to often but I am pretty sure it exists
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>>143346942
>Maybe this show is not for you, nigga.

And most of the Yugioh audience as well judging from the ratings drop and drop in overall activity in these threads.
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>>143346261
>PSYframes
>hanged
That's pretty merciful. Now having 2 PSYframe players be forced to duel each other to the death is a far more interesting punishment.
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Can someone explain this image to me? I can't understand what is trying to convey.
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>>143347143
That was merely because Synchro was moving at a snail's pace. Hell, I know people who put the show on hold just because they would rather go through in one go than be stuck waiting for it to inch along week by week.
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>>143347440
It means you're gay
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>>143345069
Question: Will Sora come back before we go to Fusion?

If not, I'm also gonna go stab the writers. This is wasting a character with good potential.
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>>143346016
I doubt Grace and Gloria will stay in the XYZ Dimension after all Edo the Commander isn't evil anymore and will probably tell everyone to leave. And Grace appears in the Cast mext ep
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>>143347440
>"heh, i erased two childhood friends from each other's mind, i'm so evil!"
>"damn this guy is evil"
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>>143347143
We are in the same key since Synchro, people talked how it was dropping. Honestly, after Synchro I really wanted Yuya take the concept of Egao more, not failing like he did in Synchro.
Sure, it would be better if it was not forced to make allies and breaking every villain, but it's fine for me.
I know things will not be happy in fusion dimension, just ENJOY the ride.
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>>143347586
You're asking if he's coming back in the next episode? Prooooobably not. But I know who IS coming back in the next episode.
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>>143347586
Please do. In fact, you would want to completely massacre them, considering most of Arc-V cast are wasted potential. At least your Sora got some form of screen time and "development".
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Only the Theoryfags and Edgyfags are mad with Arc-V. They thought there would be some kind of Evangelion shit. Stay mad.
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>>143347461
Don't blame Synchro or act like it was a small part of the show. It was 50 episodes. Around half the show. If people dropped the show because half of it was bad what does that tell you?
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>>143342330
where the fuck is the raw reeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
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>>143347693
But I laughed at theoryfags and hate Eva but still dislike Arc-V because of bad and forced writing.
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>>143347693
I just needed Arc-V to not suck.
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>>143342839

Almost every thread until Dennisfag is carded.
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>>143347796
It wasn't bad though. It was just really slow for most of it, like the case with Pre-Maiami.
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>>143347870
It doesn't.
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seriously, where's the 111 raw?
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>>143347892
It was bad enough for people to drop it. Being slow is the same as being bad. If there was enough enjoyment gotten from the show people would watch it no matter what. But the show turned people off so they didn't watch.
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>>143347693
>They thought there would be some kind of Evangelion shit.
To them, I say there's no Eva here, move along.
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>>143347994
Raw never.
Mono working faster never.
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>>143348000
>Slow = Bad
That might be the stupidest thing I've read all day. Kudos to you.

Hell, I took multiple breaks in both arcs, not because I didn't want to watch the show, but because I didn't like being cockteased and I would rather watch chunks of it in one go than get things piece by piece.
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>>143342330
Holy Shit Shinji is such a faggot
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There's a lot of anime for the guys who don't like it anymore. If you don't like it, just drop it.
It's a commercial anime for children, what in the world you guys expected? It airs 5 PM, it's not a time slot for killing and edgy things.
It's already "dark" for children, with theme like war and people getting fucked by fusion people.
I just think that Konami should make it for Teen audience, since kids don't even know how to play this game.
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>>143347994
is not answering real questions a new epic maymay?
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>>143348275
But kids will blindly get their parents t buy the cards no mater ho shit
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>>143348157
Mono is fast as he always been, its the others on the team who slack
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>>143348275
>kids don't even know how to play this game
Oh they sure do. And you better give in a future show with a more adult cast like in 5DS. I 100% sure next Show will be Zexal 1.2 with more Fanservice.
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>>143348264
You are definitely using slow to try and excuse the show for being bad. A show can be slow but still have enough material to maintain the audience.Arc-V didn't. You yourself have dropped it multiple times because it was bad. You yourself have admitted that the people you know dropped it because it didn't maintain their attention.

The Japanese audience have all but stopped watching the show and they're the same people who watch snails pace One Piece anime weekly and keep it in the top 10. They're the people who watch Pokemon and keep it near the top 10 every week. This show just doesn't grasp people's attention for whatever reason and is bad. Maybe they don't like being told to smile all day by the show? Maybe seeing cameo characters makes them realize they could be watching better Yugioh series? This show doesn't even do the Gokaiger/Decade cameo thing as fun as those shows did.
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>>143348275
>It airs 5 PM, it's not a time slot for killing and edgy things.

IBO aired right before it and had tons of killing. It being for kids doesn't mean it has to be bad. Gundam BF aired in the same slot as IBO and everyone loved it. Gundam 00 aired in that slot too and had mature themes. I'm not saying Yugioh needs to have mature themes but you aren't making a good excuse for the show.
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>>143348505
>Dropped
Holding off on watching eps for three weeks to wait for more stuff to be available is hardly dropping a show. If that's the case then I've dropped nearly every single anime I've ever seen on multiple occasions. Also, stop trying to put words into my mouth. I have not once considered any of the content given bad. I have explicitly said "I wanted to wait for more to be there because I dislike being stuck waiting in anticipation"

It did have enough content. It was all character and worldbuilding. The issue is that people were impatient with plot reveals; that's it.

One Piece is an anime adaptation of a long running manga that is far less focused on a singular plotline and is far more focused on general adventuring which makes it far easier to pick up and watch.

Pokemon is largely episodic and therefore easy to pick up and watch at any given point without any investment and if you're really pushing the "I put it on hold so therefore I dropped it angle", I "dropped" that too because I'm holding off to watch the league in one go.

Your roundabout shitposting is cute, but as a whole, operating on that sort of conjecture is rather weak for the sake of argumentation.
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>>143348588
It's not an excuse, but seeing every Yu-Gi-Oh! they never played a key tone like Gundam.
I like /m/ fan and I know it is very different from Yu-Gi-Oh! concept for children anime, with almost same time slot.
I think we should put YGO in the same standard like Vanguard, Beyblade or Youkai Watch. It keeps the core concept for children, but it gives candy for adults/teens.
There is a lot of anime that is better than Arc-V or Yu-Gi-Oh in general. I just don't think the shitposting that people is making is fair at the show.
In the end, it's all about the taste.
I find it fun, just ENJOY the ride or drop it, anon.
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>>143342330
Why does he look like the biggest faggot imaginable?
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>>143349018
If you haven't even considered any of the content in this show bad you are a fanboy of epic proportions. I can find flaws in all of my favorite media. You saying that every single thing about Arc-V is good makes you insanely delusional.

It didn't have enough content. Building a world that is completely separate from the plot isn't going to attract attention. If people don't like the worldbuilding then it didn't have enough content for them. Then it fumbled on building most of the cast. People were impatient because the show separated the whole cast most of the arc and the arc didn't seem important and was dragging alone.

One Piece animates like half a chapter an episode. It moves so slow that it should be criminal. Yet it still gets watched. The focus on adventuring only comes up after arcs have finished which can take over a year in the anime. You can't just drop in and watch it at any time.

Pokemon has had an overarching plot in this series. You can drop in and watch it but you'll miss out on a whole lot.

You thinking someone is shitposting because they don't like your favorite anime is sad. Especially when you're trying to sound intelligent when everyone just groans when you post. Arc-V doesn't need you to white knight it all the time. It's even more sad when you consider just how little discussion the show gets across the Internet. These are the most active threads and they've slowed down immensely. The show being bad and the toxic fanbase probably contributed to that a whole lot.
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>>143349343
The original Yugioh had a ton of crazy stuff. It was toned down from the manga but it was far more mature than something like Beyblade or Youkai Watch. It had actual death and some latter series followed that.
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>>143349546
Because he is.
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>>143349546
He looks like a normal guy to me. Are you sure you're not the one seeing things?
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>>143342983
guardians are so bad holy shit. i like them but it's just too hard to use them.
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>>143349551
I think you're shitposting because you're seemingly intentionally misconstruing or jumping to odd conclusions constantly with regard to a lot of the things I've said up to now.

But since you went to the trouble of typing all that out:

Did I once call it perfect? No. I said I never said it was "bad."

Arc-V has loads of flaws. Incredibly slow pacing, rushed character development for some of the cast, not enough focus on characters who should be the main cast, animation perpetually bordering on QUALITY, subpar duel writing.

But ultimately, I find the package more than the sum of its parts and enjoy every episode of it.


As you said, "building a world that is completely separate from the plot isn't going to attract attention"; however, just because some are displeased that the content immediately provided is not what they came to see and therefore grow impatient with it does not mean that the content provided is actually bad.

>You'll miss a whole lot by dropping in and out of pokemon
I watched almost all of XY out of order because I wanted to skip to certain things and watch filler and other stuff later when I was in the mood for it and you really, really don't miss out on all that much aside from the serena performance eps.
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>>143349681
Well the "original" Yu-Gi-Oh! is over, DM didn't kill anyone of the major cast, besides some bad guys. Pegasus was not killed in anime, so it's not dark at all.
GX, 5D's made it too, Zexal just said fuck you about any major deaths (like S3 GX).
Let's face it, YGO just do some bad guy killing and fake deaths, but the power of friendship just won EVERY story of franchise.
Now people shit in Arc-V because of friendship and Egao? That is some serious bullshit.
YGO is like Vanguard, Beyblade and Youkai Watch. But the trick is that they give some candy for mature audience, that's all.
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>>143346397
REMOVE IT FROM THE BANLIST
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>>143350290
I think that is fair. As long as acknowledge the problems that it does have but enjoy it anyway, totally fine
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>>143350290
>Arc-V has loads of flaws. Incredibly slow pacing, rushed character development for some of the cast, not enough focus on characters who should be the main cast, animation perpetually bordering on QUALITY, subpar duel writing.

And if you can admit the show has all these flaws then you can understand why some people would find the show bad based on all of that. We don't need you replying to every single negative post about Arc-V telling people it's good.

If people don't like the theme of the show or Yuya and Yusho's philosophy then it's easy to see why they would find the show bad since their philosophy is being presented as what's right and what has been changing the villains.
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>>143350859
I bet m0no will have it within the next 36 hours
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I miss Yusei
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>>143350757
That, and Arc-V is undermining its own nuanced beginnings.

The original 50 episodes of Arc-V made a point that you can't just be passive and do the same old thing you've been doing to succeed

But now Yuzu is a cheerleader, Yuya is a broken record, and Reiji isn't even in the fucking show
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>>143350962
And Selena is suffering
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>>143349343
This really. Even before Yu-Gi-Oh became a card game/ "Mon" series Kaz made it clear that it was aimed at kids, early teens at the oldest. Just because the original manga was edgy, doesn't mean it's mature.
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>>143350962
>But now Yuzu is a cheerleader,
Who has she cheered on?
>Yuya is a broken record
Even if sometiems he got pissed at first, when did Yuya not end up going OTANOSHIMI WA KORE KARA DA?
Times he was literally possessed do not count.

> and Reiji isn't even in the fucking show
True.
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>>143351372
>Who has she cheered on?
Literally everyone. The point of that statement was to point out that Yuzu has slipped her role from strong and independent heroine to becoming poorly developed Kotori 2.0, as she takes a backseat in every important thing that has happened instead of taking action herself, despite being the plot device that caused a lot of the shit in the show to happen. Her character's potential got wasted horribly, especially since Serena did everything she did better, even to the point where she got pendulums before Yuzu did.
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>>143350962
Having a main rival be completely absent is pretty avant-garde
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>>143351737
I can shit shit on a pedestal in a gallery and that would pass as avant-garde as well.
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This will cause butthurt but right now I think that
Zexal is better than arc-v simply because Yuya and Yuma are pretty similar right now but at the same time Zexal had the better antagonists
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>>143351697
>Yuzu has slipped her role from strong and independent heroine to becoming poorly developed Kotori 2.0

I think we have a different understanding of what Kotori was bout if you say shit like that.

But I guess some people had the delusion it would be Yu Gi Oh Otome
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>>143351846
Similar? Not for long. The HITOTSU NI subplot is sure to kick in sooner or later, with the true final boss being revealed...
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>>143350962
I think it would improve imo, if we had another entame duelist besides Yuya to bounce off of just to show different forms of enatme working on these villains.

Oh that's right, we fucking do, they just don't anyone else but Yuya to change anyone to inflate his ego after they tore it down in Synchro.
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>>143351970
That doesnt change that their main traits and views on dueling are basically the same.

And Hitotsuni will just be relevant for some 2 part duel or something, you know that as well as everybody else.
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>>143351697
I dunno about that. Although she was a damsel for a lot of synchro, it wasn't like she just sat around and sucked up air.

>Early synchro
She tries to warn people of the dimensional war like a delusional hobo and enters the friendship cup with Yugo

>Mid synchro
She recognizes that Yuya's likely emotionally crushed after losing to Jack and devotes her duel to trying to keep his spirits up; beating Enjoy in the process

Later, she defeated security alongside Sora and got him to ultimately turn his back on Academia

>Late Synchro
She runs to Yuya's aid in direct response to her bracelet glowing and stops Hitotsu ni

She tackles Roger into a table and hijacks his broadcast to warn about Academia and to instruct Yuya to stop the rioting with his entame.

Overall, you're right that her role has been reduced from what it was, but she's still nowhere near as bad as Kotori.
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I picked Arc-V up because it had the cutest Yu-Gi-Oh boys and I haven't been disappointed so far.
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>>143352122
Kotori did stuff too by that argument. She was the one who snapped Yuma out of his shock and depression after the Vector reveal and commanded everyone on steering the ship.
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>>143352086
Wanting to make people smile with dueling and wanting to surpass your limits are two different things. Also, Yuma didn't mind using dueling as a tool for conflicts.

>And Hitotsuni will just be relevant for some 2 part duel or something, you know that as well as everybody else.
Stop acting like you know anything.
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>>143350962
>Yuzu is a cheerleader
Not really
>>143351697
Honestly comparing her to a Kotori 2.0 is the dumbest thing ever(at least in my opinion). She doesn't even take the backseat in anything whevenever she's on screen you can actually see Yuzu does whatever she can to help and takes even more action whenever it's necessary. My only problem was in the show she's great as it is but could have gotten better if they've given her more of a break like get the time to learn Synchro and Xyz since she has more counterparts and try to go even further into certain interactions.
To be honestly Serena didn't really do any better than her either. True she ended getting pendulums first, but only because she was able to joined the Lancers(the team that honestly wouldn't have been formed if it wasn't for Yuzu in the first place).
Jusr because she doesn't get a chance to duel every time doesn't mean her character's gone to waste. Most of the times like that people complain and call her too much of a Mary Sue as well as saying how much she hog a lot of attention.
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>>143352202
The series isn't actually disappointing, the anons posting here are just batshit insane. Don't pay attention to them.
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>>143352300
>Stop acting like you know anything.
I dont. I have just abandoned all of my hopes.
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>>143352300
> Also, Yuma didn't mind using dueling as a tool for conflicts

During Shark vs IV Yuma kept saying that dueling shouldn't be used as a tool for revenge or conflict. He just doesn't force that on people like Yuya.
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>>143352292
It's amusing how that is literally the only plot-relevant thing she ever did despite being in every single episode. You could erase her from the story and nothing would change other than someone else needing to slap Yuma (or Yuma getting over it on his own). Kotori's existence never affects the plot in any way.
Meawhile, Yuzu being removed would change everything.
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>>143352292
Kotori in general was literally in every epiosde of Zexal and the only noteworthy stuff she's done was slap Yuma in ep.24 and calming him done a bit in 97 after that it's been all fanservice with her as well with all her world needing to be revolved around Yuuma. And even those moments she's done are largely overshadowed in the end with not much impact.
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>>143352424
>omeone else needing to slap Yuma (or Yuma getting over it on his own)
Kaito slapped Yuma in ep.95 after he was panicking in Rei "kidnapping".
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>yfw Yubel is the true final boss, trying her 'unifying all worlds' plan in this continuity.
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>>143352424
I guess Yuma would also need someone else to bring him the heart pieces he stupidly forgot at home, though that was just an excuse for Kotori to get stuck on the Duel Coaster (why the hell couldn't she just be in the Audience?).
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>>143352503
Zexal would've been much improved if it was kaito in the miniskirt shouting "YUMA"
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>>143352403
Those things are pretty much different things. In yuya's case this is one involving war and even most of the times when t came to his ideals he always tend to struggle and in the end improve. In Yuma's case there's literally nothing there for him especially with his "we dueled so we should all be friends" crap in part 1 and most of it later on. Hell he even straights up ignore his own morals when he thought a guy he barely knew was killed and told his close friend to shut up.
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>>143352645
Stop being blind, its the same thing. Both of them stress using dueling as a way of dialogue instead of using it to solve conflicts.
This being a way is irrelevant, even if it wasnt and the cast was resolving some other conflict using dueling, Yuya would be saying the same things.
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>>143352403
You're wrong. He said that dueling shouldn't be used to hurt people. He never minded using it to beat the crap out of his opponents.
When you say that Yuya is forcing his ideals on people, that's also wrong. He's convincing them. It doesn't work on everyone - Jack, Edo and Grace just had that predisposition. Gloria didn't, for example.
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>>143352122
The only time in Synchro she ever really seen as a damsel was the time she got captured by Sergey and even then you can't complain that much when you literally can't do much to a cyborg like him.
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>>143352403
I like how while Yuya still goes for his entame shit, he seems to be actively trying to just use it to talk to people now rather than outright talk down to them like Standard-Mid Synchro.

Like, he's still doing generally the same shit, but the fact that the logic regarding it did change over time a bit is kinda nice.
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>>143352742
Everybody is predistend to fall for the egao.
Just look at Synchro, an entire dimension got 100% enslaved by entame. Nobody can resist, its the way its written.
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>>143352645
Hold on. The war doesn't involve Yuya at all. It's not his battle to fight. His dimension is pretty safe. He put himself in that conflict. Yuma was dragged into the Arclights and Dr. Faker conflict. Yuma was attacked for having Numbers and needed to collect them for Astral. Kaito and Orbital got Yuma involved in the conflicts. Kaito tried to take Yuma's numbers and then Orbital tried to steal the key causing Shark to lose his soul making Yuma get involved in that.
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>>143352831
>enslaved by entame
You really like your buzzwords, don't you? Yuya and Jack introduced harmless fun to a group of people who were used to enjoying death matches. Aren't you being a little delusional?
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>>143352353
I know. Just throwing in my two cents.
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>>143352831
I liked how Synchro did actually resist until Yuya managed to beat Jack with entame though, it was nice and consistent with Synchro's might is right philosophy.

With Yuma, while he wasn't really any different in terms of overall goals, it felt like things came too easily for him as opposed to Yuya and it kinda made it hard for me to get invested.
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>>143352888
Actually it kinda does involve Yuya because his counterparts, his father, and his key person Yuzu were involved in it. Plus, Reiji pretty much dragged him along the moment the battle Royale started and the causalities it brought.
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>>143353007
>Reiji pretty much dragged him along
Yeah, Reiji pretty much forced Yuuya and the other Lancers to become child soldiers. The war does concern them, no matter how you put it.
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>>143352742
He's forcing his ideals on people by beating them over the head with them despite their protests.
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>>143353086
Well, for almost whole XYZ "arc" it was more like other people attacking him on sight with "Sakaki REEE"/"LANCERS REEE"/"OUTSIDER REEE" and with Entertaiment as his style it would be hard not to beat it to their heads.
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>>143353007
His counterparts have nothing to do with him and he'd actually be better off not knowing them since they go berserk when gathered. His father disappeared and wasn't even in the war. If we're talking Yuzu then everything involved Yuma because of Astral.
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>>143353086
The only time it felt like he was forcing his ideals was when he was dueling Obelisk. With Edo he had a good reason, since Edo clinging onto Smile World, was already enough for him to understand that, Edo may have had an interest in the Egao ideal.
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>>143353086
>He's forcing his ideals on people by beating them over the head with them despite their protests.
Okay, let's list the people Yuya "converted" to entame.
>Sawatari
Was already prone to becoming an entame duelist because of his cheerful personality and his charisma.
>Synchro people
These people were literally used to death matches until Yuya and Jack came along.
>Grace
Always liked fun things.
>Edo
Knows deep inside that this is all just a card game and that he's not supposed to hurt people with it but was brainwashed by Leo.

See? All the people that Yuya "forced his ideals" on were prone to becoming entame duelists. You're thinking too much.
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>>143353086
Your idea of 'forcing' is interesting.
I'd say the ones who would card you when they win are trying to force shit, if anything.
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>>143353385
Telling Kaito, whose entire family was murdered by Academia that dueling isn't a tool for conflicts is what I'd call forcing his ideals.
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>>143353638
But he's ultimately trying to stop the useless slaughter on both sides. Yuya's a great guy. He's somewhat of a peacekeeper.
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>>143353638
And what? He reprimanded his action the very next episode, even admitting he's still immature. He never let go of it as if he doesn't care.
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>>143353733
*cough cough* BULLSHIT *cough cough*
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>there are people in this thread who are criticizing Yuya for being right
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>>143353733
It's not his job to do that. He doesn't understand the grief and pain these people went through. He can't tell them to stop how they're feeling from his position. If Yuzu got killed in front of him he'd snap too. He was screaming at Edo to get information about his father. If Edo said he carded Yusho, Yuya would have exploded.
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>>143353840
>He doesn't understand the grief and pain

Except he did the very next episode, you could even see it in his face that he felt like shit, trying to speak through dueling with Kaito.
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>>143353840
>It's not his job to do that
yes it is
he was literally hired as a child soldier to protect the dimensions
>He doesn't understand the grief and pain these people went through. He can't tell them to stop how they're feeling from his position.
"guys seriously stop killing each other, it's pointless"
"SHUT UP YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND ANYTHING"
i guess blue helmets should stop interfering in danger zones then
>If Yuzu got killed in front of him he'd snap too. He was screaming at Edo to get information about his father. If Edo said he carded Yusho, Yuya would have exploded.
okay
trying his best to stop the conflict is still the right thing to do
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>>143353976
Sympathizing with someone isn't the same thing about feeling what they're feeling. Yuya felt bad but Kaito was emotionally shut off and killing everyone in his sight. Can Yuya say he truly understands that position? Can Yuya say that if his family was killed he wouldn't be the same way?
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>>143353638
He felt like shit right after the duel though.
And it is kinda his job to stop conflict. That's his job as a Lancer, to stop interdimensional war.
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>>143354124
meant to reply to this >>143353840
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>>143354082
It's not about understanding, you clown. Even if he doesn't understand Kaito, killing is inherently wrong and stopping Kaito is, morally, the right thing to do. Your way of thinking is seriously flawed.
Why would you need to understand a murderer in order to stop him?
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>>143354082
The fact that Yuya already sympathised for him already shows he's done the logical thing an outsider can do in their position.
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>>143354030
>yes it is
>he was literally hired as a child soldier to protect the dimensions

Hired by who? Reiji? The guy who is doing all this out of daddy issues?

"guys stop killing each other, it's pointless"
"SHUT UP, THEY KILLED MY FAMILY, BURNED MY CITY AND HAVE US ALL LIVING IN FEAR. WE'RE HUNTED LIKE ANIMALS. YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT"

>okay
trying his best to stop the conflict is still the right thing to do

Not with that hypocrisy it isn't. He shows up with an air of superiority to the people he's trying to help. He acts like he knows better than them and that their emotions don't matter.
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>>143354277
how is reiji's motive even relevant? the fact is that he is doing his job as a lancer

>He shows up with an air of superiority to the people he's trying to help. He acts like he knows better than them and that their emotions don't matter.
okay now you're just being delusional
you must have a serious inferiority complex
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>>143354199
Kaito isn't a random murderer. He's a soldier on a battlefield who had his family killed by invaders. He's not killing random people. He's killing people who are actively hunting him and other civilians down. Yuya is in no position to tell him how to feel.
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>>143354277
>He acts like he knows better than them and that their emotions don't matter.

Not him, but when has he ever done that aside from Kaito (which he regretted doing afterwards)?
He's shown that he understands Yuto and Shun's pain and hatred, but at the same time, he doesn't want them to fester in hate and rage. That sounds pretty reasonable to me.
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>>143354277
>Their emotions don't matter

You still don't understand, you're acting as if Yuya didn't have any sort of remorse after the aftermath of his duel with Kaito. You do not have to 'feel' excatly like him to show how sympathetic you are. Also surely if a person thought he had higher 'superiority' would mean that, he wouldn't even bother wasting their energy to think about the oppressed and concerned about said oppressed, which is what Yuya was doing the episode after it.
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>>143354366
Killing is killing, no matter how you put it. Yuya's an utopian, and genuinely wants to rid the world of violence. Putting feelings aside, can you really say that his worldview is wrong?
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>>143354366
The key messages with the Xyz stuff have been about not letting your emotions cloud your judgement and ending the chain of violence. Academia attacking Heartland was wrong, but that doesn't make them attacking Academia in return right.
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>>143354547
Remorse doesn't mean shit if you don't do a thing to make up for it. Yuya still pushed forward with his ideals against everyone he met after that. That's what makes it look like he has an air of superiority. He feels his way is right and it's the only way people should duel or live their lives. What if it didn't work? What if he runs into someone who actually enjoys killing? What if he runs into someone who he can't crack after two or three encounters?
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>>143354603
Wanting to end violence is right. Not understand why the violence exists, the effects of the violence on the people or how people would react to that violence is wrong. This isn't a vacuum.

>>143354767
Putting emotions aside is easier said than done. Especially when blood has been spilled. Nazis are still being charged for their crimes to this day. It's not even like the Xyz Dimension is free. They are still an active warzone with people being killed daily.
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>>143354929
You don't understand. Yuya does understand why the violence exists. It was proven when he apologized to Kaito for of his immaturity. He also understands better than anyone the effects of violence on people, and that's all the more reason to make it stop.
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>>143354824
>Yuya still pushed forward with his ideals

Stop saying that as if it's a bad thing, a person has the right to say their input on things. It only gets out of hand if you put them in a corner while doing it. It doesn't help that his input actually caused many changes to people's heart as of lately. So the results are paying off.

>What if

We still can't say for sure what will happen if an opponent doesn't change after many encounters, simply because it has yet to happen.
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>>143355034
>He also understands better than anyone the effects of violence on people

Bullshit

>>143355057
Which is a problem. Yuya's words are stronger than giant robots crushing people and people being turned into cardboard. It's terrible writing. He shouldn't have that effect on people that easily. Duels are fun, right? Does that fun bring the dead back to life? No? Then people shouldn't so easily change from it.
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>Bullshit
You seem to forget that he experienced Synchro right before coming to Xyz. Thanks for proving that you're just a dumb hater though.
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So, online reviews are actually rating arc-v fairly highly. I haven't watched yugioh dedicatedy since about half way into gx, and was pushed away from starting a new series when I came back to zexal, but every now and again, I get an itch to go back and watch what's become of it.

Is Arc-V a good watch? Do I need to go back and watch yubel saga, 5ds, and zexal to make any sense of what's going on?
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https://www.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=824554
>Is Arc-V a good watch?
Yeah, it's great.
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>>143355360
Kaito changing had more to do with his comrades stressing over him including his duel with Shun, with Yuya's presence affecting only a fragment of it. Yuya has only changed people from Academia as of now, in which 2 of those people that changed were already conflicted with the whole dueling is fun ideal before hand or adopted a personality similar to it.
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>>143355637
>0 seeders.
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>>143355616
It's fairly rated above average in the west obviously not more that the classics, then again people here like to care about what the nips think of the show as if we should follow their personal preferences.
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>>143355490
You said better than anybody. Synchro was still a beautiful city that mostly had problems in class. Xyz is a destroyed city that has had tons of people killed with the remaining citizens hiding like rats afraid they're going to be killed. Yuya doesn't understand the effects of violence more than anybody. Someone like Sayaka has more of a claim to that. Anyone from Xyz in fact can make that claim. Yuya though? The guy who has barely lost anything personal in this whole dimensional conflict understands more than people who live it everyday? That's like saying someone who visits a ghetto understands it more than the people who've lived there their whole lives.
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>>143355034
>comes from peaceful Standard
>no one important to him gets carded
>Yuya understands the impact of war
>understands how Kaito feels having had basically everything taken away or destroyed
Makes perfect sense.

>>143355490
>Synchro even being compared to what's left of Xyz
I don't think you're watching the same series as us, anon.
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>>143355637
Hopefully, Mono could sub it on time.
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>>143355616
>Is Arc-V a good watch?
I enjoy it. Others don't seem to. Watch the show yourself and make your own judgement.

>Do I need to go back and watch yubel saga, 5ds, and zexal to make any sense of what's going on?
Nope. There's references, but you don't need to watch the older shows to understand what's going on.
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>>143355746
Less importantly, am I going to be disgusted by power creep, watching it? Pendulums make me feel like it's gonna be complete horseshit trumping horseshit, but some opinions make it sound like it's actually kind if balanced. I don't mind watching wonky and unusual mechanics being put in place, but if it's just fermented power creep, it kinda ruins watching a duel for me.
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>>143355799
>no one important to him gets carded
They weren't family, but Michio, and to a lesser extent Teppei got carded. He's had his friends carded at least.
His close friend Yuzu's also being constantly targeted by Academia, so there's that too.
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>>143355897
Pendulums are definitely OP, although I wouldn't see at as a huge power creep.
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>>143355897
In a vacuum Pendulum is balanced, trading card advantage now (setting 2 cards as the scales) for recurring monsters once you've filled your hand/extra deck.

The problem is that losing 2 cards from your hand in the first turn is very detrimental in Yugioh, so current Pendulum decks have ways to gain advantage from setting the scales (eg: Monkeyboard, Scout, Luster P, Plushfire) which removes the initial downside while keeping the monster recovery intact.
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>>143355973
Keep in mind that he barely even knew Michio while Teppei was a "literally who" to him, and there's a drastic difference between kidnapped and carded. None of that begins to compare to Kaito's losses.
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is it up? Anyone got the magnet?
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>>143355775
We were talking about exposition to violence, remember? You're only rambling at this point.
How was Synchro's society not violent? How was his trip in Synchro not an introduction to violence?
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>>143355897
Pendulum is not that overpowered in the anime because nobody really plays their archetype properly (even with meta plays, they still do not really do optimal choices, see ep 24).

In the 2 years the anime has been running, Pendulums have gone from a gimmick, to a single archetype being successful, to what is possible the strongest tier 0 deck that is not a 1st turn makyura ftk to just another summoning method with a few strong entries.
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>>143347440
>"Why am I not in Venice?"
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YUYA DIDN'T XYZ REEEEEEEEEE. Other then that at least his logic for using a fusion was sound but god dammit I wanted an xyz so bad. Fuck the rest of Invasion of venom then, we know nothing Dennis or Yusho uses will be in the set.
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>>143356300
Full power PePe was cancer , especially in the mirror match
>Chain Wavering Eyes to Wavering Eyes with 4 scales
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>>143356459
The last time he XYZ'd, he got a draw.
Now it's time for a big Synchro
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>>143356471
Let me see if I understand this. a little girl is spying on a brother and sister, jealous of the attention the sister is getting the little girl uses her dark magic to transform the brother into her servant and eventually combines with him in a yandere way to be together forever and attacks the sister. Due to the sister being endanger the brother manages to shake off the brainwashing and the forced fusion at the last minute and protect his sister. Is that right?
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>>143356737
Motivation is not exact, and he may have just been corrupted instead of fusing with her, but yeah. Kinda
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>So this is the power of EGAO huh, not bad.
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>>143356996
It's like he's being reborn.
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>>143356996
Edo honestly reminded me of a lolicon or a gay person in denial with how hard he was insisting that he didn't want to EGAO.
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SOUND DUEL FOUR FUCKING WHEN?

Holy fuck, this episode's music.
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>>143342839
I don't know why but the detail on this chin is making me feel very homosexual.
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>>143357414
The music is the only thing that is consistently good about Arc-V.
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>>143357556
As much as I like Arc-V, that I cannot argue with you on.
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>>143357636
Really?
They have many good tracks and nothing that has been glaringly out of place so far.
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>>143357556
I vehemently disagree.

The Ruris are consistently QTs.
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>>143357500
It's wonderful, isn't it. Just like his neck.
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>>143350210
Funny i dont have the urge to passionately make love to every guy walking down the street
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>>143357845
My favorite part of Dennis? Tits and ass.
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>>143358014
Can't argue with that. Though for me it's his eyes and nose.
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i lvoe yuuya~
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>>143356194
It doesn't matter how you try to spin it. Yuya does not understand the effects of violence better than anybody.
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Man, Yuya's beautiful hair was all over the place this episode. This was wonderful.
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Yugi: Anzu, Rebecca
Judai: (all the boys), I mean, Asuka, Rei, Yubel
Yus.....Jack: Carly, Mikage, Maid at Jack's cafe
Yuma: Kotori, Cathy, Anna
Yuya: Yuzu, Mieru, Grace

Which has the better harem?
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>>143355616
It was rated highly because it was good for about 60 straight episodes. Then there was some bullshit and lately opinions seem to be "meh" and "good"
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>>143359883
Judai, Yuma or Yuya. It's hard to decide.
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>>143359883
Pure Variety, Judai.
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