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Discuss here fags
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>>143321840
>slice
That definitely doesn't look like just slicing to me. Quinques are the only weapons, aside from kagunes, that could wound ghouls. I don't think a delicate mere human body part as slender as a neck can take that damage without utterly breaking. He fully intended to behead himself.
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>>143322095
Yeah considering where his hand is and the length of the quinque thats left it does look like hes cutting his head off.
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>>143321840
Him putting on his coat and show the V are very cool to be honest. I hope he lessens the clown act and acts more serious.
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>>143321840
>>143321840
I wonder if Furuta has developed some overdone hubris?

He just took down Eto, but I wonder if he thinks he can take on Kaneki by himself now or something. I hope he doesn't go down chasing the Kirishimas, because oh boy will Kaneki fuck him the fuck up if Furuta touches them.
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>>143322469
hehehehehe
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>>143321840
If Furuta is this strong then how strong is Uta going to be?
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>>143323381
We don't know who he is gonna find. I do like him and I wish to see him fighting, unlike how the fight with Eto was skipped. Although this arc is far too long and I hope it stops, no more fighting.
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>>143322469
MOM
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>>143321840
Kaneki ia gonna have a mental breakdown again, isn't he?
Arima dying was obvious, but I'm unhappy he is doing it before getting any kind of character development. Seeing him face the aftermath of this arc would have been so interesting, but he's taking the easy way out it seems.
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>>143321840
What I don't get is that, autisma was once able to defeat a ghoul with an umbrella. Wouldn't he easily behead, or pierce his eyes again?
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RIZE WHEN
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>>143323879
Kaneki's been trained by Autisma for months, he's probably just as agile and aware of his opponents moves as Autisma is.

Kaneki is unironically completely fucking broken overpowered right now.

The V bosses better be gods or some shit.
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>>143323904
Rize > everyone
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I feel like i could like furuta but iahida is just going way too far with him joking around, does every single fucking panel of him have to be a shit meme or something?
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>>143322469
why matsumae ;_;
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>>143324033
I hate how broken he is growing up to be
>Rize kakuhou organ implant
>one of the best kakuhou to have apparantly
>desensitized pain by Jason
>Arima special training
>Has eaten Eto's kagune armor whatever it was called
>Each hair change that changed his mental state made him miles stronger than the last

Like come on
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>>143324503
When he has character development, he will drop that I hope. But for now I don't mind it.
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any arimafags here? damn this feels fucking shit, probably dropping this
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I thought half ghouls have a particular smell that ghouls can pick up on?
Why would nobody notice it on Furuta?
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>>143324751
Touka mistook him as Kaneki?
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>>143324751
Well not everyone has scent good enough to like kaneki, but apparently urie has good sense of smell right? But maybe it's just good compared to humans? Like he can't differentiate species?
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>>143324751
>why would nobody notice it on Furuta

He us Kanou's off-brand surgical practices to hide it. Went V-tier ghoul under V's nose.
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>>143324798
He is always covered with coat and gloves I supposed. Eto maybe have used bandage to cover her smell.
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>>143321840
Kaneki is the worst character of this manga.
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>>143324945
Idu why somebody who dislikes kaneki would continue reading, how can you enjoy this series at all?
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>>143323558
I almost want him to live for that reason alone but this is a hilarious way to kill him off. Hope it sticks.
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>>143322469
Well, Arima was the most hyped character for a very long time. It was dumb to drag the fight out and end Arima here. I'm not looking forward to his corpse ending up an evil ghoul experiment forcing Kaneki to kill him next time.

For Kaneki to have drama now, he has to really piss off Amon or introduce literally whos from V who were better than Arima all along.
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Ishida is such a hack and his editor is a stupid bitch

Why the fuck you hyped Eto with the foreshadowing and clues of her being the end boss in the first part? Just so she can lose against arima? What's the point of her character? Being an important writer? I bet he also pulled it out of his has that day. No wonder why faggots hated her so much, he unnecessarily hyped her. It's just logical to think like that.

Then making the story even more retarded.

Ishida should start a slice of life manga and see if he can even write a competent gay sol manga.
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so will Arima gone, will CCG slowly collapse? His death would be a major morale killer since hes everyone's inspiration and hero, someone known as #1 and undefeated suddenly dead would cause a mass shit storm I would assume.

Maybe V will begin to show themselves more once they find out.
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>>143323440
Uta and Yomo should be the same strength. Unless Ishida is gonna pull some dick eating power up from his ass. Furuta is stronger than Uta then.

I'm still unsure when it comes to Eto however. He got the drop on her and she should be full of RC suppressants. Honestly, i hope we get a rematch in the future between them.
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>>143326690
I'm a bit worried about this too. It would make sense for Kaneki and Amon to fight again if you consider Ishida's love for parallels but I can't see any way they could piss each other off enough
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>>143326865
>etofags
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>>143327664
Except if Amon went a bit unhinged during the time skip and Kaneki needs to calm him down or something. But from his limited panel time I have not gotten that impression
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Why, Arima, why?
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>>143327892
Also, why the fuck do it in front of Kaneki? To fuck him over one last time?
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>>143325098
Simple, he doesn't. He's just here to shitpost and bait.
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>>143327678
Why are you spewing buzzwords? Did you even read the first part?

Aside from Eto's collisions, re was a disaster even without her

And I hate her character, more like I don't care about any of them but only if they are good writen which none of them
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>>143321840
>super peace

I thought that means "Fuck off!" in the UK.
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Great. Arima is now cemented as the worst character in TG.

From the moment he was introduced, to the moment of his death, he truly had not one iota of character development. How is anyone supposed to fucking care about this Ishida? You couldn't have given him some character before you sudoku'd his ass?

Also how am I supposed to give a shit about ANYTHING else in the manga now that Kaneki is the Goku of Tokyo Ghoul? Every other character is so beneath him that the only way he'll ever be in any genuine danger will be due to bad writing putting him in a nonsensical circumstance. Eto actually looks like Yamcha compared to Kaneki.
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Noro was most likely a parental figure to Eto, right? And after he died she reanimated him.
What are the chances Kaneki might try this with Arima, considering how similiar they are?
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>>143328928
Kaneki will get sad of course, but I don't think he'd go against Arima's will and forcefully re-animate him.

That goes against Kaneki's character.
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Last few chapters have been fanficton tier
>Yomo and Torso flashbacks for no reason
>Arima acting like an overdramtic edge lord
>Kurona fusing even though there was next to no set up for that
>Amon doing nothing for 50 chapters
>I wanna die/I don't wanna die but rest assured i'll be a terrible, beta protag kaneki
>Furuta turning from a decently interesting character to a complete and utter faggot
>Tooru asspull killing Torso

All unbelievably bad
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>>143324708
I'm a Kanekifag but I understand your sentiment. I might be dropping it for a while after this arc ends.
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>>143324708
It hate the way he went out. I really hope he gets saved somehow because this is a stupid way to go. It shows that from beginning to end he was a brainwashed tool that could not change.
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>showcase Arima since the earliest chapters of part 1 and throughout the entire story
>hype him at every given chance
>make him a relevant character subtly even without revealing much about him
>final boss tier in the first part then impending mysterious mid boss
>still don't give him any kind of development
>bunch of store extras to hype further
>send him off without any development whatsoever in a way that will accomplish nothing but cheap drama
>probably toss a few flashbacks of how human bean he was, introduce new characters or pretend other characters were stronger all along just to have new mid bosses and call it a day

Literally for what fucking purpose Ishida?
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>>143329439
I swear to fucking God if we get post-mortem character development for Arima I'm dropping the manga.

I've never hated a character as much as I hate Arima, he's so worthless and no amount of flashbacks will make me care about him killing himself.
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>>143326865
>Why the fuck you hyped Eto with the foreshadowing and clues of her being the end boss in the first part? Just so she can lose against arima? What's the point of her character?
Yeah i thought the same,the only answer here is muh "Rize super special kagune"
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>>143329592
>"Rize super special kagune"

Honestly I'm kind of getting sick of this shit. It wasn't that special when Kaneki first got it, and Rize didn't even seem like she was that strong but now Furuta gets her kagune and he's slicing up Eto?

He can't have had his kagune for more than a year, it makes no sense for him to be that strong when Eto's been cannibalizing for years.
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>>143329592
>>143329439
>>143329145
>>143328134
>>143326865
Guys, let's drop this manga all together!
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>>143329699
You're not one of us, go away.
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>>143329685
Ishida changing the plot and the story in front of our eyes.

He thinks we are this retarded.
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>>143329699
I'm honored
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>>143329699
And then kill yourselves while you're at it
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>>143329685
This. Bitch got fucking destroyed by steel beams and now we're to believe that she's some super unique special snowflake ghoul?
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>>143329741
>Changing
Ishida likely has a bunch of story beats written down, and he just improvises to connect them. The story isn't changing, it's just being made up on the spot as he goes along.
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>>143329685
In fact Rize was never seen as a strong ghoul,now magically changes everything
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>>143329850
Yeah right, are you fucking stupid

keep on defending him
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>>143329867
>>143329829
>>143329741
The worst thing is that Ishida rewriting Rize as being special and having an abnormally strong kagune lowers the impact of Kaneki's achievements, as it takes away from his effort and makes it seem as though he literally got lucky and scored a special kagune.
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>>143329893
fuck yourself trash gaijin if you read tarot you see this coming
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>>143329741
>>143329829
>>143329943
I do not know if Ishida was planned this from the beginning,but I think the role of Rize in the story is out of what he had thought
I mean,she could be just fuckin dead
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>>143329485
Then better drop it now, because of course we are going to get flashbacks.
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>>143329983
Ah,

So what you saying he made his manga obvious before hand? and that only the pretentious faggots would've known that? It's fucking retarded.

No wonder why this manga is shit. knowing future's plot.
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>>143330302
i saw u delete that post u cheeky fuck
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>>143329867
Rize was always seen as special and strong to the point that many were let down when they thought she was only important because of her link to V. People bitched.
Not it's stated that that is not the only reason she is important people bitch again.
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>>143330247
>Now wonder
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>>143329829
>>143329943
The fuck are you talking about? They always kept talking about how Rize was a special snowflake with super regeneration and could easily break shit in the original series.
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>>143321840
Ugh, fuck amn hopefully he doesn't have a big role in the next arc.
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>>143321840
Why is Eto such a jobber?
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So Kaneki is clearly above SSS.

Will a new ranking be made for him? K-rank?
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Furuta implied the higher ups in V are even beyond him and Kaneki.

Also how the fuck is Furuat so good with a Kagune when he hardly uses it? Knaeki had to go through hell and most ghouls to get to a level of mastery. But a guy who has hardly ever used his isable to wipe the floor with Eto.
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>>143330342
Super regeneration but average rinkaku, everything else was Rize being crazy as fuck not because she had a special kagune that could top Eto with her eyes closed. Remember that Kaneki had the same kagune for years and still had to apply himself against characters like Shachi the first time around. That's probably what one of the anons is getting at, the other one looks like a shitposter though. Furuta put no effort in it and was able to beat Eto because Rize's kagune does all the work for him while Kaneki or the twins had to sweat their asses off in order to do anything with it.
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>>143330427
>>143330456

Because Furuta is a blatant Gary Stu that we are supposed to like because of his oh so funny random humor.
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>>143330413
>K-rank
>krank
>german for sick
A-Are you Ishida?!
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Have CCG deployed their gas inside the prison yet?
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Ishida stop this shit
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>>143330316
nice jokes
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>>143330413
I dislike anything that makes a current character stronger than Arima. Being the best was what his character was all about and if someone pops up that is stronger than him it seems ridiculous.
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>>143330491
No, but they will be deploying their anti-panic maneuvers once the backup heading to Cockleea discovers Arima's corpse.

I can't fucking wait to see the despair on the faces of the CCG grunts as they learn the Invincible Autist has fallen. I'm already getting erect.
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>>143330403
Because nobody else is around to do that yet we still need to establish the strength of Furuta (or Kaneki back in the Tsukiyama arc)
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>>143322095
Lol, so much for all those hype for this faggot, he's a fucking noob and jobber.
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>>143330647
>jobber.
Ehhh, not quite.

In the past Eto actually jobbed to Arima to show off how undefeatable he was, then Arima spent multiple chapters dismantling Kaneki before losing.

It was a fair loss, Arima made the mistake of training Kaneki and was felled by the monster he made. It wasn't jobbing.
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>>143330709
>Damage control
Kek, he did not live up a hype and lose like a faggot, just accept a damn truth, you CharacterFags are annoying sometimes.
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>>143330767
>He did not live up to the hype
But he did, he tore Kaneki apart over and over and forced him out of his weakened depressed state, that's why he lost.

Arima fucked up and created something stronger than himself for whatever reason he had, I'm not damage controlling, I'm just stating that just because a character loses, that doesn't mean they're a "Jobber"
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>>143330767
Shut the fuck up
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>>143330803
Ah-hah, fucked up like an IDIOT by not killing the dude when he has a chance, see?
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>>143330988
It's like people are incapable of understanding intentions in a fight if they are not "kill the opponent". Arima explicitly stated he never intended to kill Kaneki.
What is it like being so stupid?
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>>143330803
You realize most of these posts are just bait right?
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Thanks god Ishida ends it this way and doesn't use retarded asspulled plot like "Arima is a ghoul all along" bs
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>>143331031
I think we're the only 2 posters in this thread not taking the bait right now. I'll never understand the appeal of entertaining posters who have clearly not read the manga. Maybe they're bored.
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>>143331031
I haven;t slept in nearly 24 hours, I'm beginning to fail to tell the difference.

>>143331040
>doesn't use retarded asspulled plot like "Arima is a ghoul all along" bs
he did that with futura though.
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>>143331040
Wait for an even more retard asspull, he's use that a lot lately.
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>>143331040
Maybe Arima really parallels the girl in the Penisman, who didn't know she was partly a monster used for killing her own kind.
So now that he thinks he is killing himself, he heals and he finds out this way.
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>>143331191
>Trying to give Autisma some character depth
Not even Ishida wanted to, just stop anon.
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ha.
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Damn i really miss the old threads withTorso and all rape shit that was really great
I´m fuckin nostalgic now
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>>143331492
There's still plenty of rape though. Did you read this chapter?

Ishida's raping his own manga now.
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Speaking of rape, I wouldn't mind raping Haise.
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>>143331726
You and Arima.
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>>143331842
>Arima.
Corpses can't rape people you dumb dumb
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>>143331842
He's a gentleman with good taste.
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>>143331521
I mean is not the same,threads now are so boring all the hype is gone
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Delusional
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What a shit manga
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>during the events of Furuta vs Kaneki
>Furuta acts like a fucking retard like he used to be
>Kaneki is dumbfounded by his actions
>Furuta is actually holding back and savoring their last moments as a partner
>after the fight, Kaneki knew Furuta is still alive that's why he didn't bother to double check
>Furuta can easily decimate Kaneki and especially Hinami but he didn't because Kaneki is still a bro to him
>Furuta let them go easily

Why is Furuta the best?
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>>143331040
>Mysterious overpowered character
>Literally compared to God
>Author focuses a lot on his right eye
>Over half the fanbase thinks he isn't human
>"asspull"
I'm glad he's human too, but you really are a special brand of fucking retarded. You clearly don't know what an asspull is. An asspull would be everything describing the Kirishimas survival against Arima and the compactor. An asspull is Furuta being revealed a OEG out of fucking no where and is somehow powerful enough to stomp Eto despite mot having an iota of her experience because "muh special rize kagune." Arima being a ghoul would have been the most predictable thing ever, which is why I'm glad he's human. How the hell can that be an asspull?
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>>143332840
Sauce?
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>>143333906
Moms Lewd Hole Opens Every Day of the Year or something like that.
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>>143333806
Arima didn't want to kill the kirishits in order to motivate Kaneki into giving him the fight he wanted.Furuta having a good control of his kagune in a short amount of time is not an asspul considering he is a fucking Washu from the garden where autism is learned from a young age
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>>143334890
Furuta had the Kagune at least for a shorter amount of time than Kaneki and barely any opportunity to use it. It's a freaking asspull for the epic meme man.
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>>143321840
Why are people pretending Eto could ever fight competently? She has a history of getting pushed back because she's a dumb brute strength character.
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>>143334890
Nope. He was legit trying to kill them and was holding nothing back. He didn't use them as motivation for Kaneki until after they escaped. As for Furuta, what>>143334958 said. There's no way around this shit.
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>>143335733
>Only known SSS rate ghoul (and her father by proxy)
>CCG's greatest enemy
>Easily slaughters numbers of Special Class from the CCG and V
>"hurdur y dos evry pretend she stronk?"
Because she is actually competent. She just can't win against special snowflakes like Autisma, Betaneki, and le epic memelord. She has to job to show off other characters.
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SuiIshida-->SuiIsida-->suicide
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>>143336199
This so much.
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So why does Kanou say Kaneki was his only success besides Taki? Retcon?
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>>143336199
To be fair, she is not the only known SSS rate. Tsuneyoshi was said to singlehandedly defeat one too. But she's virtually the only one aside from Kuzen actually in the story. But otherwise, yeah. I agree.
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>>143336384
Because Furuta might not be a success? It's not like Kurona is weak.
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Lol Rize>>>> all
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Calling it now Rize was created with the DNA of the original OEK. Her op kagune is all what's left of the king and that's why she's so valuable to V.

This is what Eto meant with "The OEK is in your bellies".
The kagune is the key.
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>>143322469
It's so obvious Arima just wanted Kaneki to kill him this whole fight.
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>>143336741
But Eto did not know that Furuta was a ghoul
And also i think that Rize is related to the OEK
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>>143321840
Does anyone actually think Furuta got his kagune through Kanou? Also seeing how his shirt is ripped up all the way up to his shoulder blades makes it seem like he's a rinkaku-ukaku hybrid.
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>>143336741
The problem with that is that there was never an "original OEK" to begin with. People just head canon'd away after she mentioned the nameless OEG which forced the parent organization of the CCG into creation. More retards jumped the ship because the OEK was an enigma symbolized as a skeleton, even though it was leading modern day Aogiri grunts in its imagery along with the symbol and all the "King's" background info was Eto's.

But I agree Rize's kagune plays a huge role in this mess somehow. Pretty sure it deals with the circumstances of V needing her for breeding. She was probably specially bred too.
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>>143324534
>>Each hair change that changed his mental state made him miles stronger than the last
I don't actually think his hair colour changes have anything to do with becoming stronger nor are the representing his strength. Ishida just uses that because he likes his black/white symbolism.
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>>143324381
It's just that Rize's kakuhou has great potential, but Rize herself was seemingly just above average in terms of strength.
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>>143324751
That's also been bothering me. For example Hinami didn't pick up Eto's scent at the book signing event either. I think Furuta is just lying to Eto about being an artificial OEG, and that natural OEG's can maybe change their scent by will somehow.
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>>143337273
Yet Karren picked up Eto's scent immediately, which I found bizarre.
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>>143330413
>So Kaneki is clearly above SSS.
Obviously, considering that he's not only strong enough to defeat Arima, has Rize's kakuhou, knows about V and the CCG's internal workings, instigated a Cochlea prison-break and is supposedly stronger than and working with Owl from the CCG's perspective.

Still, I don't get why you're using danger ratings as means to describe his strength when it's just a vague evaluation by the CCG and he would only be above SSS if the CCG assigns that rating to him.
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>>143331080
>he did that with futura though.
That was foreshadowed since part 1, my african american friend.
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>>143336399
Wasn't it said once tzhere's an SSS level in Cochlea?
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>>143327664
If Kaneki decides to go along with Eto's plans he will eventually clash with Amon again.
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It's hard to imagine that Furuta is an artificial OEG and not a natural since he was in the same part of the garden as Rize. Also if Furuta would've been a human back then, Rize might just have eaten him.
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>>143337524
Yes. Furuta being an artificial OEG with Rize's kakuhou via Kanou's surgery was foreshadowed the same chapter he dropped the steel beams on Rize before Kanou could acquire her to perform said surgery. Genius anon.
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>>143337577
It's implied in the manga based on a convo between Eto and Tatara and confirmed in Ishida's drafts he gave to Pierrot.
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>>143337729
>Yes. Furuta being an artificial OEG with Rize's kakuhou via Kanou's surgery was foreshadowed the same chapter he dropped the steel beams on Rize before Kanou could acquire her to perform said surgery.
I never said that, but Ishida foreshadowed Souta being a one eye with the design of his mask, and Furuta being Souta was foreshadowed ever since he killed Matsumae.
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I want to see Yoshitoki fight.
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>>143337641
I can see this. People give Kaneki too much credit as far as not being retarded enough to do what she wants. The groundwork for her setting him up as her OEK puppet is already laid out. "New" Aogiri has been foreshadowed already. Eto already tricked his dumb ass into appearing on live television during her "I am a Ghoul" announcement and now everyone knows who the OEK who "killed" Arima Kishou and freed Cochlea is.

All she needs to do his trigger his mommy complex and the rest will fall in line.
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>>143338150
I think witnessing Arima's suicide will also play a huge poart in that. Maybe Kaneki will start thinking that choosing to not kill Arima was pointless after all.
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>>143338150
Not even that. All she needs to do is replace Rize. Take him out for a coffee, discuss books and have a friendly sparring match and he's hers.
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>>143338150
So basically you're subscribing to the Arima was Eto's mole in CCG theory? Guess it would explain why he would kill himself.
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>>143338217
>Re is the birth of a legend
>Re ends with Kaneki forming new Aogiri and becoming the new OEK
>Kaneki becomes one of those antagonists who "recognises the resolve" of their opponents by killing them.
Kaneki as the antagonist vs Amon in a possible sequel. Now I want this.
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>>143337837
>I never said that, but Ishida foreshadowed Souta being a one eye with the design of his mask,
That's "foreshadowing" if you are reaching as high the stratosphere, yes. Hell, the design you are talking about is on the mask's left eye, while his kakugan is on the right.
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>>143338318
>Hell, the design you are talking about is on the mask's left eye, while his kakugan is on the right.
Not him, but that was 2012. Maybe Ishida reconsidered where he wanted the kakugan to be.
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>>143338380
Maybe it's just not foreshadowing, given that Furuta became a clown before the OEG operation (given we can trust the info he gave Eto this chapter)
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Arima norofied by Kaneki when?
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>>143338380
I don't know, man. Ishida is ordinarily highly consistent when it comes to stuff like this. Amon's right eyepatch and his right eye not being shown on the cover art of chapter 124 for example.
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>>143336741
You might be on to something. Remember how Rize's real identity was never revealed and she was running away from her past, even changed her name.
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>>143338486
>(given we can trust the info he gave Eto this chapter)
Furuta not being a natural OEG contradicts the hints we've been given so far, it's more likely he's just lying to Eto.
Also, even if Furuta wasn't a ghoul at the time he joined the clowns, Ishida can still use the mask as foreshadowing for him becoming a one eye.
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>inb4 Arima turns out to be genetically modified by V just like his Penisman version and his regeneration, which he didn't know about because he never received a major injury, kicks in next chapter
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>>143334958
He was not human in Gourmet arc and during the time with Madam A. So after Kaneki and before Kanou lab raid, around 3 years. If it’s not shown then wait for reasons why he is so strong instead of complaining. Another factor is that he was trained in the Garden and Washuu inheritance give him good exposure on how to use kagune ->good skills+good quinque.
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>>143338302
>>Kaneki becomes one of those antagonists who "recognises the resolve" of their opponents by killing them.
Kaneki is foreshadowed to become a killer as well. Mostly due to the influence of "mother." Pic related.
>>143338217
Kaneki projected motherly traits on Rize, and she resembled his actual biological mother as well. Kaneki suffers from a form of oedipism. That's why I said all she needs to do is fulfill that role. She already told him she will "make him her child" and his kagune/kakuja has taken her traits too. I think it's only a matter of time.
>>143338230
That actually never came to mind. But I do think it's reasonable given we still have no clue how she got through the CCG's containment during the Anteiku raid.
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>>143338695
That's already been mentioned in this thread dude.
I'd approve
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>>143338695
Fund it.
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>>143338150
>>143338811
>People desperatly trying to make Eto relevant

Kek. Jobber girl is dead soon
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>>143338842
>That's already been mentioned in this thread dude.
Oh, my bad.
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>>143338915
The people thinking Eto is going to just die are just as delusional as the Etofags who make excuses for her getting BTFO.
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>Dammit Haise! This not what I meant by surpassing Arima!
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>>143337717
That is what I'm confused. I know he is foreshadowed to be OEG and strong, there is no asspull to why he can defeat Eto because she is shit fighter in 1 on 1 matches.
>artificial made by Kanou
Must have been half ghoul since after Kaneki and before Kanou lab raid. He have the same amount of time as Kaneki and Kurona to improve. Cannibalism is an option where we are not shown but we can't deny the possibility of it.
>natural ghoul
This one makes more sense with the Garden past with Rize and breeding program.
I think there is more to this Rize kagune operation story.
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>>143338953
What do you think her fate is going to be then? Redemption and marriage with Kaneki? She is gonna die.
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>>143338961
Haise was a mistake.
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>>143339018
Her death is going to be made a giant spectacle out of. Getting picked off by a random investigator doesn't seem like a fitting end.
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>>143337050
I do support this theory. It makes sense why he is bred in the Garden, with another kagune(dysfunctional perhaps to make Washuu hate him), and then Kanou came, giving him another functional kagune. He is compatible to Rize because of AB blood type and seemingly breeding program.
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>>143338982
>because she is shit fighter in 1 on 1 matches.
That and she was obviously caught off guard with Furuta being a ghoul. Considering that ukaku's burn through their RC-cells pretty quick and that she created such a huge kakuja while being on RC-suppressants, it's not surprising that she couldn't puit up much of a fight.

>I think there is more to this Rize kagune operation story.
SAme. I wonder, did Furuta say the higher ups would wipe him out if they knew he has Rize's kakuhou because they don't want a OEG among V, or is it because they can't tolerate someone having Rize's kakuhou withou their permit due to its special potential.
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>>143339018
Not him. But Ishida wrote Eto will "find hope, overturn the tragedy, and live on" in the scenario between Ukina and Kuzen at the end of episode 8 of Root A's credits. I'll trust the foreshadowing of the author rather than the shitpost delusions of an autistic anon on an animu image board.
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Kanou doesn't seem to know what is special about Rize though. When Kaneki beat Takizawa he speculated about Rize base being better but did not seem convinced.
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>>143339068
We disagree on nothing then.
>>143339132
If you honestly think Eto will merrily live on you really are delusional. She'll find peace in death.
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>>143338811
I'm trying to have a decent discussion going on here about a potential Amon vs Kaneki setup and what could trigger it. This seems the most likely option if it comes to pass to me based on all the build up. Fuck off and stop trying to trigger the etofags with your bait.
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>>143334721
If Kaneki wasn't at Arima's level, how come he completely rekt him?
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>>143337181
The hair colors are restraints of his power
Haise's personality and upbringing would never let himself bring out the true power of his kagune because of his peaceful personality
When his haired turned black he got a massive power boost to go against Eto
And once he came to the realization of leaning on himself instead of others during the Arima fight, right after that moment where his haired turned white, he could match Arima himself

They are not power ups but they represent a new stronger Kaneki then the past one.
Personally I don't like the overuse of it and the jump and the manga morphing into a "powerlevel" shounen but it's whatever
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>>143339231
Meant for>>143338915
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>>143339239
Maybe if you read the fucking manga you would understand and wouldn't make retarded statements like that.
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>>143339119
Eto being on rc suppressant is not proven in canon and I think even if she wasn't, she would still lose. She has no fighting skills whatsoever and her power is just tanking and smashing. She will still lose no matter what, unless she gets proper training. We have seen Furuta in his fight with Kaneki, he is quick and unpredictable and that can extend to his usage of kagune. His moves are very efficient. Eto has survived so I hope she learns some new skills after this.

Furuta did mention him being wiped out if the higher up finds out about this so they are certainly bitchy about OEG. Rize enhancement makes them dangerous and V will exterminate anyone they deem uncontrollable.
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Haise is definitely not receiving the annual salary bonus this year.
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>>143339068
Yamori parallel?
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>>143339308
Not saying that Eto would've won, but she could've definitely put up more of a fight.
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>>143339294
Just because Kaneki is tired after absolutely beating Arima does not mean Arima is better than Kaneki. How retarded are you? Kaneki can regenerate too fast, Arima couldn't kill him after he got serious. Seriously, are you trolling me?
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>>143339320
How rich is Kaneki anyway? I bet you earn quite a bit as an associated special class.

It probably doesn't even matter now since the CCG will have to freeze his accounts after this is over.
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>>143339231
How is it bait? Your "theory" relies on making Eto uber special and being able to manipulate with completely transperant garbage while ignoring the 1000 deathflags she's been getting. Kaneki is not going to fight Amon because he suddenly trusts and believes Eto oh so much.
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>>143339441
Your last reply, enjoy it.
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>>143339433
Well if she is on suppressant, she couldn't have used her kakuja imo. I do think Eto and Furuta have a fair fight seeing how both Furuta and Eto were exhausted but Furuta recovered faster than her. The fight was skipped unfortunately.
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Commission of Counter Bait when?
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>>143339119
>That and she was obviously caught off guard with Furuta being a ghoul. Considering that ukaku's burn through their RC-cells pretty quick and that she created such a huge kakuja while being on RC-suppressants, it's not surprising that she couldn't puit up much of a fight.
The way Eto lost was just stupid, it's not making any sense. She was obviously on suppressants, so Eto being weakened is deffinitly a possibility.
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>>143339207
I agree with>>143338953. You faggots are abject cancer and killing TG discussions. No one gives a shit about your "Eto ded" headcanon. That wasn't what the anon was trying to talk about also. Also:
http://makyun.tumblr.com/post/112283400597/about-the-text-that-appeared-in-tga-ep-8-the
I'm sure you'll kill yourself when she lives.
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>>143339570
I think that text actually made it to the manga panel half a year later.
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>>143339570
And so? That might have been ukina's wish but Eto didn't understand her parents loved her and what they wanted for her and messed it up even more.

Im all for discussion but not if the base for it makes no sense. Telle why Kaneki would suddenly believe Eto when he did not listen to her before or attempted to save her. He would have let her rot in prison and the get executed.
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>>143339488
His theory is also supported by Ishida's Sky Falls poem. He isn't pulling anything out of his ass and gives evidence why he thinks it can happen. I don't think its a stretch because the foreshadowing is there and Eto is a master manipulatorm All you're doing is talking about nonexistent deathflags. Not saying it is going to happen 100%, but she can die later. It definitely wont be this arc.

If you think she is going to be killed by a random no name Investigator after Furuta spared her, you are delusional beyond all help.
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>>143339692
Why woul Ishida make the effort to hide that message if it wasn't foreshadowing?
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>>143339718
How nice that I never said she was gonna get killed by random investigators then. I'm just saying she'll definitely die and probably soon. And if you honestly believe there aren't a mountain of deathflags for Eto, like Noro's "I'll go first", then I doubt you actually read the manga.
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>>143339692
>Things I don't like don't make sense
Funny how the other anons could see thr point that was being made. That's what happens when you can interpret posts without blind hate of a fictional character.
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So we're going to pretend like this never happened? Kaneki respected Yoshimura and probably wouldn't just let Eto die if there was some off chance that he could save her.
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>>143339796
There is no reasoning with retards like>>143339692. They want Eto dead so badly, they can't straight. Any argument you give them won't make a bit of difference. Just best to ignore them. I thought Etofags were cancer, but the anti-etofags are a whole new breed.
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>>143339570
>>143339621
>>143339796
http://randomthoughtpatterns.tumblr.com/post/140333757986/
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>>143339962
And you apparently want her to live badly as you ignore all evidence to the contrary. Hypocrisy is awful.
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>>143339987
The madman should not be underestimated. Doing so is just idiotic.
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>>143339962
>they can't straight
You mean "think" straight. Relax and have a beer, anon. No need to get so triggered by the shitposters that you can't type straight.
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>>143340086
>evidence
Not him, but what evidence? If anything there might be indications of her future death, but I don't recall there being any evidence.
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>>143340121
Maybe he's suggesting that homo is the chemo these threads need but not the one they deserve.
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>>143340151
Fine, hints then if you want to nitpick.
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>>143340086
See>>143339987
There is no "hypocrisy." You are just so blinded by your delusions that you interpret any small thing as a "deathflag" whereas the author himself foreshadows on more than one occasion she will live and that the protagonist will play a role in it. I really don't care if she dies or not, I'm neutral towards her. But it's so goddamn apparent your dislike of the character is clouding any semblance of objective reasoning skills.
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>>143340350
I don't give a flying shit about eto. I just don't understand how people believe she will have this major role in the future or even survive by focusing on a vague comment that might as well be there to point how she could have been but wasn't while ignoring all hints to the contrary. There are major deathflags. I named examples. You ignore them.
It's pointless to argue with you if you are merely overly fond of baseless accusations.
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>>143340681
>There are major deathflags.
Deathflags are up for interpretation, so I fail to see any point you're trying to make. But if we're done, great.
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Can't we have a discussion about relevant things like Arima or Rize?
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>>143340770
So is your arguement with ukina's statement dude. But yes we are done.
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>>143340772
>Arima
ded
>Rize
status unknown, currently only relevant for her kagune
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>>143340772
Thinking about Arima makes me very upset.
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>>143337216

That's why she wrecks everyone and so do people with just a little bit of her power.....


Face it Rize is the strongest in the manga.
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>>143332840
Those are some meaty buns
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>>143338199
On top of that, Arima has always tried to groom him into that mindset.
>"Haise. Again. Kill. Just as I do."
This time, it might just stick.
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>>143340899
This is what I don't get. Rize was said to be strong but not godtier which is what you'd believe with Furuta wrecking Eto after having had her kagune for a comparitively short time.
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>>143340818
You two were talking about two different things. There's nothing to interpret about>>143339987 and>>143339911. It is blatantly spelt out as intentional foreshadowing from Ishida. Your argument hinged on offshoot comments such as Noro's "I'm going first, Eto." I can see how that could be interpreted as a deathflag, but it hardly classifies as solid evidence of anything. At most, it could mean Eto is a death seeker like Kaneki (the two are similar) and that she has thought heavily on the prospect of her demise. But that's also an extrapolation. We'll just have to wait and see what Ishida has in store for her. But I'm also in the belief she will not die any time soon.
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So what will be the name of Kurona quinque?
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>>143341455
Crazy bitch with nice legs.
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So how is eto/kaneki supposed to leave cochlea? eto destroyed the last route.
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>>143341529
>eto destroyed the last route.
How?
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>>143341529
I don't think Eto will leave Cochlea unless Kaneki saves her which is very unlikely at this moment. And the route is still there, she just destroyed the surface of it.
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>>143341529
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>>143341702
Chapter 75
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>>143341743
>unless Kaneki saves her which is very unlikely at this moment.
He'll head there either way since he's worried about Touka and co., he'll probably take pity on her and help her out.
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>>143341818
You mean the destroyed compactor is now blocking th underground exit? Doubtable.
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>>143341000
>short time
3 years =short?
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>>143341743
The thing is, Kaneki is already in that direction. He heard the compactor start and got worried for Touka and co's safety. Imaginary Hide told him to go back up there, remember? And that is also his only escape route. And since Eto saved his people, I don't think the notion of Kaneki giving her a hand is too farfetched.
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Can't wait for Kaneki's reaction next chapter.
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>>143341828
>>143341960
Yes I think that too but right now his father figure whom he didn't want to kill just committed suicide and then there's Furuta who wants to fuck up more people. When he will arrive there Eto might be already dead. Well, Furuta might be talking about Hinami and not Kaneki since she stabbed him.
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>>143342304
>When he will arrive there Eto might be already dead.
If this were real life and not a manga, sure. Kaneki turned her into a literal half ghoul and dropped her ass off a skyscraper. You think she'll just "succumb to injuries" here? Come on, anon.
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>>143342563
Furuta fucked her up pretty badly + she hasn't eaten properly since she was incarcerated and there's the RC gas(which didn't do shit in this arc but still). But I don't think she'll die like this.
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>>143343201
>+ she hasn't eaten properly since she was incarcerated
There's something that bothers me about that, there were a lot of skulls shown laying arround in her cell when Furuta visited her.
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>>143343268
I think they were there in a metaphorical way.
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>>143343426
Doesn't look like it.
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>>143342304
Maybe he is talking about Washuu and V.
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>>143342563
Qell she can't even regenerate her lower half there. Anything is possible in this manga.
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>>143343483
I must assume that you are legitimaly a retard then
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>>143343483
>The more you desperately try to effect change, the more sad and dead you leave in your wake.
It even says on the panel that the skulls represent the deaths that led to the current situation.
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>>143343483
>Reading TG and being this retarded.
How did you lasted this long?
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>>143343811
>How did you lasted
He lasted longer than your grammar practice at the very least.
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>>143339511
Are you sure? I thought RC suppressants in a ghoul just inhibited the Ghoul from fully controlling his/her Kagune.
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>>143330456
>average rinkaku
her kagune could slice quinques to pieces, even when kaneki had low control of his kagune. One person of the anteiku crew(cant remember who) also mentioned that having rizes kagune was a huge adventage to kaneki
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>>143344198
RC suppressants like the name implies suppress RC cells and therefore hinder any activity that has to do with using them.
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Going forward, Kaneki future enemies will be the weakened CCG and V.
Aogiri is basically done for.

I expect Amon to appear soon if Ishida haven't forgotten about him yet.
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>>143344006
Even though english is not my native language you managed to understand what I was trying to say. Thanks for pointing out my mistake though, you must feel better now.
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What if Arima wrote in his will that everything that happened at Cochlea was part of his plan and Haise was only doing God's work and ends up with a promotion instead with a hoard doves after his ass? Think about it for a second.
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>>143343483
IT'S SYMBOLISM.
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>>143344198
Naki was dosed with RC suppressant and his kagune disintegrated immediately after. If Eto got it, she wouldn't have been able to even use her kagune or kakuja.
Akira shot him with RC suppressant bullet and he was K.O. 5 seconds right after.
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>>143343483
You're an imbecile
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>>143344380
Take it easy, bro. Just a joke.
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>>143344642
>I-It's just a joke!

Nice save buddy.
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>Kaneki finally leaves his suicidal thoughts behind and decides to live.
>Arima kills himself right after that.
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Here is the most recent effect of RC suppressant gas, it disintegrated ghoul's kagune immediately. It doesn't make sense for Eto to be under the effect of it because if she did, she couldn't have used her kagune or kakuja.
In her defeat, she was shown with a functional ukaku kagune so Eto is not hindered by RC suppressant.
I know you can't acknowledge Eto lost but at least don't make up false evidence.
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>>143344862
>That heart.
Fucking kek.
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>>143344817
I want to believe it's Arima being Autisma but sometimes I have to wonder if he ever gave a single fuck about how Kaneki feels at all or if this is his idea of final training stage. Either way he's doing it wrong.
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Honestly right now furuta can neat kaneki.
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>>143344956
He is yandere for Kaneki.
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>>143324708
Arimafag checking in. I knew his death was inevitable but this was a really dumb way to do it.

>>143329268
this tbqh. I'm a bit upset that he was just a mindless dog the whole time.
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>>143344998
Why though? Because Kaneki was Kanous first succesfull Rize-transplant?
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