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https://docs.google.com/document/d/1pKgBm8Aa58mjB1hYhbK-VOPZsRBTXBuPBzw8Xikm2ss/pub?embedded=true
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>>143146872
がんばろう～
>that chair when all out of motivation
>haven't read anything in 2 days
Anyone here tried bacopa? I heard it has pretty much no side effects and helps with memorization/focus.
ファッゴトたち、質問がある。 手伝ってください！
夜中と真夜中は、同じ意味を持っているようと思う。
本当にそうなの？
>>143181303
I'd imagine 真 there does the same thing it does to everything you can add it to, it just means like really or truly X
Midnight
REALLY midnight
>>143181279
>Bacopa monnieri, syn. Herpestis monniera, is important in Ayurvedic medicine and has been used, particularly in India, for several thousand years in the belief that it helps mental functioning, including comprehension (Dhi), memory (Dhriti), and recollection (Smriti).[2]
>the belief
Sounds like bollocks to trick dumb hippies into wasting their money.
>>143181303
That was some of the lewdest things ever
>>143181434
It has a lot of studies. It just has been used in India before those studies.
>Kenkyusha
>Tfw takes me an hour to read 2 pages of an LN
>>143176850
I am aiming for Todai, Kyodai, Handai, etc. Not pleb-tier, just kidding I love you.
>>143174444
It's a full ride scholarship.
>>143163524
Math was the hardest exam I have ever seen, and I've even been in olympiads.
My scores were:
Math: 90
Physics: 80
Chem: 50 (yeah, I know I didn't study chem)
English: 90
Jap: 140
I am from 南米 by the way.
Sorry for posting now that nobody gives a shit.
>>143181409
What is "really midnight" supposed to mean then? Midnight is just a time of the day, how am I supposed to intensify a word that only means 00:00?
>>143181604
I'd imagine it just has the nuance of being like right on the dot of midnight, or right smack bang in the middle of the night, if there even is any difference, I'm just guessing based on what 真 does in everything else
>>143180816
Nice simplified kanji there, but I raise a
見ヶ〆料
>>143181568
but the next two pages take 59 minutes and 59 seconds
>>143181599
>南米
Where are you from, exactly? I'msadlya ブラジル人 so it's nice to see other people from myshittycontinent here.
>>143181599
what made the math exam so difficult?
>>143181796
I'm your neighbor, パラグアイ人.
>>143181804
It's just not your usual exam, first part is really weird. The second part is REALLY hard, the first problem (two are worth 25 points each) involves calculus. Easy calculus though, the second one involves calculus at the university level. Third year engineering students here do those type of problems.
>>143181665
You're probably right, thanks.
>>143181599
Where'd you apply for it?
>>143182024
Go consult your japanese embassy.
>>143182134
I'm guessing you're another anon? I thought I read something about having to pass the exam in order to take part in some program that organizes that sorta stuff back then.
>>143182326
I'm the same anon, I literally went to my japanese embassy's website and looked for it there. The application is also in the embassy and they are in charge of the testing.
>>143181599
>Physics and Chem
The nips are really on that STEM.
>トムは二十年来日本語の勉強を続けている。
Jesus Christ Tom get it together.
>>143182658
How are you supposed to learn these nonsensical pleasantries? Is there some list of them somewhere? Because dictionaries are useless for deciphering them.
>>143182380
Shit dude I just checked my Japanese embassy's website and there's a shitload of information and guides on studying in Japan or working there as some sort of scholastic mediator
I'm probably just retarded but I had no clue embassies were this useful, thanks for leading me there anon I would've never thought about it
>>143183491
by watching anime
yotsuba says them wrong anyway because she's 5
>>143183305
>>143182658
どれだけ勉強しても絶対に習得出来ない
恐るべき言葉、その名は日本語
>>143183491
You fell for the meme, son.
Yotsuba is completely useless as beginner material because of the high amount of slang and deliberately misspelled shit.
>>143183491
>Because dictionaries are useless for deciphering them.
That would be because Yotsuba constantly fucks them up. If you followed the guide and picked up the reading pack it'd tell you what she most likely tried to say.
just finished the first volume of yotsubato
>>143183711
i wouldn't call it useless if you have the googling ability of at least a twelve year old
you'll find the same slang anywhere else, though maybe not the deliberately misspelled shit
>>143183711
>this again
Yotsubato is a great manga for beginners. Even if it has a lot of slang and deliberate misspellings, the regular conversations of the other characters are still grammatically correct and for the most part easy to follow.
Hell even without the reading pack half the slang that occurs is either slurring of ない to ねぇ and すごい to すげぇ, doesn't take long to figure out.
ケサランパサラン
>>143183711
I've been having that feeling since I picked it up, honestly. The dialogue itself is usually very simple, but the slang and deliberately incorrect phrases and so on can make it challenging sometimes.
>>143183739
>If you followed the guide and picked up the reading pack it'd tell you what she most likely tried to say.
I downloaded the reading pack but it seems next to useless. The "sentence list" doesn't actually cover most of the sentences and the vocab deck seems to be missing a lot of the vocab too.
I've just been using the Yen Press scans when I get stuck, but they don't really help in a lot of the above cases because things like Yotsuba mispronouncing words can't be translated literally. At best it lets me see that the sentence seems like nonsense because it actually is nonsense, but it doesn't give me any idea as to what the correct sentence was supposed to be.
>>143183740
Good job. How'd you find it, dumb spongeposter?
>>143183740
Now do the 2nd volume
>>143183809
>i wouldn't call it useless if you have the googling ability of at least a twelve year old
I've ( >>143183491 ) been googling stuff I don't understand but I can't always make sense of the explanations because usually the only resources available are in Japanese and typically use language which is a lot more complex than what's in Yotsuba.
>>143182658
>he thinks you can finish studying japanese
>he thinks it's actually possible to be "done"
Bad news for you buddy. You're never done. You just stop caring at some point.
>>143184147
it was boring as fuck at first, but i like it now.
>>143184151
will do, sir.
>A third of the way through RTK
>"NOW I'M GOING TO STOP CREATING STORIES. WRITE THIS BOOK YOURSELF, FUCKERS! LOL!"
D-did I fall for the RTK meme?
Does it get better?
>>143184244
see: koohii
>Does it get better?
as long as you didn't waste ten years on RTK you're doing OK
>>143184244
>Stops doing what makes it worthwhile a third of the way in
hahaha what
>>143184244
Real men do rote.
>>143184299
His "mnemonics" (if you can even call them mnemonics) are shit anyway.
>>143184244
The community stories are way better anyway, it's a shame there aren't community keywords too to replace the awful ones he assigned
>>143184215
well the page you posted is extremely straightforward
the only thing she messes up is おもてなし which is a pretty simple word, and the rest you can google easy
i don't remember whether it was before or after, but at some point she fucks something up like おまかいですが, maybe you'd have to look that up, but you should pretty easily be able to scroll through the japanese explanations and find the part where they explain what she meant
How many kanji does the RTK deck teach you? I can't find a simple answer by googling it and that's the limit of my independence
>>143184587
just fucking download it and check how many cards there are
>>143184555
I know I'm pushing it pretty hard by now, but the reading pack has both of these. Seriously guys, use it
>>143184587
About 2000 in the first book and another 1000 in the third.
You could have found out by looking at the last page of the book.
>>143184555
Or you could read something else where you don't have to do any of that.
>>143181604
http://thejapanesepage.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=36970
>>143184856
honestly if he can't read gaijin-tailored explanations on yahoo japan or wherever yet then there's probably not much out there he will comprehend
it might be best to just watch subbed cartoons until he knows grammar
is it possible to set up rikaisama to import words with an example sentence as well? how would i set that up?
>>143185057
Maybe change the dictionary it pulls from? The default dictionary doesn't seem to have sentences.
>>143185057
Yes but I forgot since I use LWT now instead of Anki
>>143184970
At that point you're not reading compelling content though.
You shouldn't need to google japanese explanations for the very first thing you read.
ぞい子のアニメ楽しみにしています、あなたもですか？
>>143185694
ばばあに興味はない
>>143185454
why the hell not
I google japanese explanations all the time, better to start early than to put it off
ＤＪＴたちは人間として失格だよな (笑）
>>143185694
ぞい子のアニメを楽しみにしています私も、何ですか？
>>143185694
第一話ぐらいは見てみるとおもうけどそれほど期待してはいない
What manga is this?
How do you translate this? I just can't [八尺八話快楽巡り～異形怪奇譚～]
>>143186004
it says right on the cover you blockhead
![gintama73.mkv_snapshot_04.17_[2016.06.22_15.50.14].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/eD7w37v.jpg "gintama73.mkv_snapshot_04.17_[2016.06.22_15.50.14].jpg")
>The fuck is the kanji/kana after な?
>stare for like a minute
>finally realize it's the hardest kanji of all?
>>143186221
Looking at this image makes me angry.
Feels good having reading material that's under your level, exactly on your level and slightly over your level all at the same time, you know exactly where to go depending on your mood and how much time you have
welp now that I've left my homeboard it's time to get back in /a/, which means DJT
who here /hasn't actually studied in a couple years but still has a pretty good understanding of simple japanese/?
>>143186221
何のためそんな風で書くこと？
それを書いていた人を殺したいマジで
>>143186143
hachishaku eight-chapter pleasure circulation
grotesque mysterious tale
why are you even trying to translate an eromanga title
>>143186342
>welp now that I've left my homeboard it's time to get back in /a/, which means DJT
邪魔!! あっちへ行け!!
Just starting out on the 2k anki vocab deck but nothing fucking sticks. Should I read rtk first or am I just retarded?
>>143186556
I was fapping to that and just got curious. Thanks mate by the way.
Are the TK exercises worth doing, or should I just read through as I do Anki then start reading?
>>143186342
The extent of my studies is doing my reps (a single deck with vocabulary lifted from a single VN that I stopped adding words to months ago) every two weeks or so.
I'm at the point where I can read most VNs without too much trouble, and I expect to stay there for a long time.
>>143185753
ひっ酷いわ、ぞい子はかわいいのよ。
I want to use the yotsuba reading pack but I don't have money, what do?
>>143186697
>I just started doing this activity and I'm bad at it
Holy shit who would have thought
>>143186697
>read RTK
here's what you use RTK for: Writing.
and that's in. if you use RTK as a way of trying to study kanji you're going to learn nothing.
>>143186718
や、やらしい～よ～
ヘソを隠してください～
>>143186765
That's pretty retarded, writing shit down naturally also helps retention, if it's good for writing kanji as you claim then it's also good for remembering kanji
>>143186846
well yeah, but that's what writing is? as in, you use it to learn the writing, which will passively help with your kanji, but you gotta write to do it.
>>143186925
So how is it not good for studying kanji then? Kanji study is just remembering kanji
>>143186718
可愛く描くても老人病がいっぱいあるばばあの事実は覆られないんだ
まんこも醜くて臭くてどうしよもない老人のまんこだろう
>>143186459
>>143186284
Every episode
t is like
i t
t h
l a
e t
>tfw Japan's econemy is becoming terrible.
Why are you studying Japanese?
What is your goal in studying?
What is your current level with regard to jlpt or other measurements?
Whats your goal for proficiency? (N2, N1, only basics, etc)
What are your studying methods?
How often do you study?
>>143187359
>The real world
Who gives a fuck
>>143186180
I can't read it :'(
>>143187463
fuck off
>>143187463
I want to visit japan.
I want to act as a guide for my family.
I'm only ~1000 words into Core6k
Haven't thought that far.
Anki (Currently using RTK and Core 6k)
~2 hours every day.
This is some quality news on NHK Web Easy.
>>143187463
－ 字幕なしでアニメを見たい
－ 字幕なしでアニメを見たい
－ まるでN3と思います
－ N1
－ 何もしない、ただスマホとパソコンの言語設定を日本語にするだけ
－ 多分、毎日かな…
どう？
>>143187463
w-why are you asking me all this? i don't knowI DON'T KNOW
>>143187463
>Why are you studying Japanese?
to read VNs
>What is your goal in studying?
to read VNs
>What is your current level with regard to jlpt or other measurements?
somewhere among the bottom three levels in all aspects
>Whats your goal for proficiency? (N2, N1, only basics, etc)
fluidly reading VNs
>What are your studying methods?
anime and porn
>How often do you study?
every day ;)
>>143181303
Source?
>>143187463
Anime, manga, eroge, maybe LNs
Perfectly understanding written and spoken Jap
I dunno
Comprehension, I don't care about production
Eroge, manga, LNs
Does that even count as studying?
Hey guys, where can I find Japanese subtitles for anime? I think it'll help me a lot.
>>143187774
http://kitsunekko.net/
>>143187774
「ガイドを読んで」と言ったのに…
http://kitsunekko.net/dirlist.php?dir=subtitles/japanese/&sort=date&order=desc
>>143187774
try typing
>Japanese subtitles for anime
into google first
>>143187847
Google filters copyrighted content, and tracks those who search for it.
>>143187915
>search for Japanese subtitles for anime
>several minutes later a SWAT van arrives outside your house
>spend the next few years in an American prison
Has anyone around here actually done Genki and got something out of it if your interests are more weeb based?
>>143186715
No help here?
>>143188184
Don't bother with exercises.
>>143188216
Fat fuck
For people using U (sticky mode) to mine secondary readings with Rikaisama: What actually happens when you hover over the kana reading is that the top entry for that kana is mined. For example, if you hover over 巾 with sticky mode and push R on the きん reading, it will actually mine 斤. So make sure to double check.
ＤＯ ＹＯＵＲ ＲＥＰＳ
>>143188611
うるさい!! してるよ
>>143181599
Hope you're still around anon
I've been studying Japanese for abouta monthnow. I picked up jap so that I could study there as well. Since I started education 1 year late and since our education system has 5 years of education, I have a solid 2 years to go.
How hard is it get into a top tier university over there? Less competition than the universities in US and UK?
>>143188611
>暗記を使ている奴
僕は2ヶ月日本語を勉強してる
>>143186721
install a brain
![[ETB] Aria the Origination 11 [13677CA8][00:21:23.982].png](https://i.imgur.com/Yji3nwx.png "[ETB] Aria the Origination 11 [13677CA8][00:21:23.982].png")
>>143187463
>Why are you studying Japanese?
I wanted to learn Japanese ever since I first played Tekken 4, solely on the basis that my 10 year old self thought it sounded really cool.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nruEPZqFpjY
A few years later I discovered anime via Rurouni Kenshin, and my desire to learn the language grew from there.
>What is your goal in studying?
To enjoy Japanese media.
>What is your current level with regard to jlpt or other measurements?
I only just started reading recently, so beginner level.
>Whats your goal for proficiency? (N2, N1, only basics, etc)
I'm not worried about speaking, but I want to be able to understand pretty much anything I read or hear without needing a dictionary or grammar reference on hand.
>What are your studying methods?
Learned kana through writing and Real Kana. Read through Tae Kim but often struggled to understand his explanations, so I looked up whatever grammar he was talking about in the DOJG and 9 times out of 10 that cleared it up for me straight away. Did Core2K/6K for a bit but kept mixing words up because of not knowing kanji so I dropped it. Tried learning kanji through RTK but didn't like the method so now I'm just doing them the good old-fashioned way. As I make my way through the kanji, I'm also reading Yotsuba.
>How often do you study?
It was every day until recently, but my enjoyment of the learning process has severely diminished lately and I'm finding it hard to motivate myself. I'm getting increasingly frustrated and angry over making mistakes, which is only making things worse.
>>143187842
Why should he read the guide if you'll just answer him when he asks his specific question?
>>143187463
>Why are you studying Japanese?
I don't even know
>What is your goal in studying?
Fluency I guess?
>What is your current level with regard to jlpt or other measurements?
Somewhere between N2 and N1
>Whats your goal for proficiency? (N2, N1, only basics, etc)
Native level
>What are your studying methods?
Anime and reading something every now and then
>How often do you study?
If anime counts, every day. Otherwise once a week at most
>>143190047
>but my enjoyment of the learning process has severely diminished lately and I'm finding it hard to motivate myself.
that's because your methods aren't helping
you either learn kanji by context (core decks), or you use RTK or an RTK related method (Kodansha, KanjiDamage, et cetera)
if you are trying to learn kanji 1 by 1 with no mnemonics things won't go well and you will eventually get bored and quit
>>143188540
Is there a way to mine if the meaning you want is not at the top?
What is the normal review count at 20 new cards a day for Anki?
Is 250-300 unusually high?
So why should we be skipping the Tae Kim exercises? Just unnecessary or what, because it seems like any practice is good.....
>>143190875
You can use them if you want, but they're not necessary, and most anime watchers already have a subconscious understanding of the sections with exercises before they start reading TK.
>>143190765
>Is 250-300 unusually high?
yup
at 20 anything over 200 means you have shit retention, do custom reviews
>>143190765
Just do whatever you're comfortable with. If you mean the amount of cards you forget and get auto-scheduled every day (not the maximum reviews you allow), that depends on the size of your overall deck and retention. Depending on how you stack it you could easily have one day where there's 100 cards and the next only 50.
If you think your retention is low you might want to reduce the amount of reviews you allow per day. For me, I think 250 max is just about perfect since I can do most of the cards in 15-20 minutes on the commute to work.
Like >>143190998 said if you think your retention is low you might just want to use custom reviews a bit more to practice stuff you're struggling with. Personally I do about 30-40 vocab a day and I don't normally have much trouble remembering them the next day unless they have very odd readings.
>>143190875
You get plenty of practice when you start reading and with sentences that actually sound native unlike half of the stuff in tae kim or anything you would write
>>143190401
>The Kodansha Kanji Learner's Course - A book that uses a similar mnemonic approach to RTK, but also includes vocabulary and readings. Not currently available online or with an Anki deck.
>Not currently available online or with an Anki deck.
グレート
Also, I had a look at KanjiDamage and I hated that even more than RTK. Too low-brow and 'murika-centric.
Anyway, kanji is the thing I've actually been doing daily (even if it's just reviews most days). I find it harder to motivate myself to read because that frustrates me more. At least with kanji I can see I'm learning them, but with reading I don't feel like I'm actually improving at all and I just get mad at myself for not understanding things.
>>143191164
>Also, I had a look at KanjiDamage and I hated that even more than RTK. Too low-brow and 'murika-centric.
ive never even looked at kanjidamage, but ive seen it around so thought it was worthwhile enough to get a mention
ive been doing RTK myself, cureently 50 kanji a day.
if i continue with consistency it will be over by mid-august.
doing RTK is way too fucking easy once you get the hang of it, but whatever suits you i guess
>>143191164
just watch subbed anime until you understand everything you read
>>143181599
how did you learn japanese?
>>143191310
just like you did?
kek
Japanese is starting to feel like a image puzzle to me. It feels like it's becoming clearer and less alien the more vocabulary and reading I do. Like lots of pieces coming together and finally being able to guess at the image.
Is this what progress feels like?
>>143191388
Yes
>>143191280
>doing RTK is way too fucking easy once you get the hang of it, but whatever suits you i guess
I found it easy, but I just found making up mnemonics to be extremely tedious. Heisig's own are just stupid and the ones on koohii most of the time didn't appeal to me either so I had to think up my own and it just took way too much time. Even if rote is less efficient, at least it's quick to get out of the way each day.
>>143190998
false, you will always pass 200 reps per day at 20 new cards per day before finishing core unless you hit "easy" way more than you should
>>143191388
yeah i had the same feeling until i realized the finished puzzle is just a puzzle piece to an even bigger puzzle. the ride never ends
>>143191365
literally yes
i did nothing but a kanji deck and anime for half a year and now i have great grammar comprehension
it really works
>>143191456
At 30 cards per day, never hitting easy or suspending cards, I never went over 300 cards. So I don't believe you.
>>143191456
>false
nah, just because you're memory is shit doesn't make it false.
>>143187463
Why are you studying Japanese?
The current western video game industry is trash, even the last E3 couldn't get me hyped anymore. I had more fun with my Japanese niche Vita and 3DS games than with any AAA game these past years thanks to games like Story of Seasons/Rune Factory, the Atelier series, Vanillaware games, the Etrian Odyssey series and so on. Many good Japanese games aren't localized, though, and those who are often receive bad localizations filled with censorship. I don't want to rely on those localizations anymore.I'm also a huge yurifag and many series I like weren't translated fully (e.g. Comprehensive Tovarisch or whatever it's called in Japanese)
What is your goal in studying?
Even though English isn't my native language I like to think I speak it fairly well. My goal is to reach that same level with my Japanese.
What is your current level with regard to jlpt or other measurements?
I'm already past Core 2k but by just a little, far from finishing 6k. I've also learned Tae Kim's basic and essential grammar. Other than that standard stuff I've learned a bit of mahjong vocabulary.
What are your studying methods?
Anki and Tae Kim
How often do you study?
Every day
I haven't been able to make ITH work with three different games. I connect to the process but then there are no text threads. Anyone else with similar issues?
>>143191545
oops it was 100 reps per day that you're forced to pass, my bad
>>143191562
i haven't added a new card in years dekinai-kun
>>143191519
>just watch subbed anime until you understand everything you read
>i did nothing but a kanji deck and anime for half a year and now i have great grammar comprehension
love the smell of damage control in the morning
>>143191677
are you referring to the kanji deck as damage control
because it has nothing to do with grammar comprehension
Okay, I'm trying to read a page involving students pulling fortunes, and one pulls number 49 (the nine smeared to look like 40) and one girl yells 「また出ちゃった？！」. And I'm not really sure what this means. I'm reading up on how it could be a casual version of しまった, but it still isn't really making sense.
>>143187463
To read H Manga, VNs and to translate, I also want to visit Japan
To read H Manga, VNs and to translate
idk
being flawless
Anki, Grammar guide and reading easy material for now
Daily
>>143191784
49 is an evil number
四 九
死 苦
>>143191902
>being flawless
you've got a long lifetime ahead of you
>>143191950
Well I know that. But I don't what her response to it means. All I know is it's something unintended. But why また? Why are you still pulling? (out the fortune)
literally out of everything より is the only thing fucking me up right now. fuck より
>>143192079
That まだ dude, また means again.
>>143187463
>Why are you studying Japanese?
To have abilities like seen in anime
>What is your goal in studying?
Getting a brocon imouto
>What is your current level with regard ...
Loli
>Whats your goal for proficiency?
Fatal pulse
>What are your studying methods?
Hentai Manga
>How often do you study?
Alot
>>143192112
Well one of the definitions for また does say "still (doing something). But regardless, this is my greatest source of confusion at trying to understand it. If it's unintended why is she saying again?
>>143187463
>Why are you studying Japanese?
To consume japanese content, and eventually, japanese people themselves
いただきます
>What is your goal in studying?
hunger
>What is your current level with regard to jlpt or other measurements?
so hungry
>Whats your goal for proficiency? (N2, N1, only basics, etc)
BLOOD
>What are your studying methods?
GRIEVOUS BODILY HARM
>How often do you study?
study?
>>143192267
Maybe she already pulled a 49 once before?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4V1BRHBSGjI
>>143187463
>Why are you studying Japanese?
I don't even know anymore. I want to read hard LNs and novels.
>What is your goal in studying?
To get as close to fluent as possible before I graduate
>What is your current level with regard to jlpt or other measurements?
Pic related
>Whats your goal for proficiency? (N2, N1, only basics, etc)
Good enough to read what I want without dictionary crutch
>What are your studying methods?
Read and talk a lot + anki
>How often do you study?
I do anki almost every day (stop new words too often). I read often and watch lots of animu
>>143192267
出る is not transitive, she's talking about the fortune. 出る is being used in the "emerge" sense.
また implies it's happened before.
>>143192308
You know, come to think of it... I think she did.
Thank you anon.
彼は食べるなし学校に行った。なし. interesting
>>143187463
>Why are you studying Japanese?
Gives me a sense of progression in my NEET life
>What is your goal in studying?
Fluent
>What is your current level with regard to jlpt or other measurements?
No idea, but I'd say I'm upper beginner now for reading, lower beginner for composition
>Whats your goal for proficiency? (N2, N1, only basics, etc)
Whatever fluent is
>What are your studying methods?
Anki everyday. Read to mine more words
>How often do you study?
A couple times a week. Needing to mine new words for Anki has always kept me reading
>>143192100
I had the same thought earlier I don't know why it still gives me trouble
>>143193077
did you delete this because you realized it was april fools or did a mod do it
>>143187463
>Why are you studying Japanese?
Huge japanophile my entire life, primarily want to consume Japanese media, also to give my life some direction as otherwise I would just be spending all my free time on video games or some shit.
>What is your goal in studying?
Read lots of stuff
>What is your current level with regard to jlpt or other measurements?
High N3ish according to JCAT but I still consider myself an upper beginner
>Whats your goal for proficiency? (N2, N1, only basics, etc)
Native level reading comprehension, very high-level listening comprehension and production (eventually)
>What are your studying methods?
Far too much Anki and not enough reading. After I get through the jouyou kanji the scales will tip in the other direction.
>How often do you study?
several hours every day
>>143193077
>>143187463
because i might as well be
to be able to read shit in japanese and fully understand it
i don't know, somewhere between n4 and n3
anki, anime, and reading
6 hrs a day
>>143191634
What are the VNs? Have you tried googling to see if they work without a hook code? Have you tried ITHVNR?
あんたは日本語を書くことで上手いになるでしょうか。
>>143193628
上手いにならない
上手くは、なるけど
>>143193760
そうか、ありがとう
What should I blog post about on Lang-8 today?
>>143194334
automations effect on capitalism
>>143194334
what you are going to do after you complete your quest to become japanese and marry your waifu himawari-tan
>>143194334
10 reasons Korea is superior to Japan
At what point do I stop Core and start mining?
>>143194478
at the point you decide you actually want to learn japanese, and start reading もっと日本の本
>>143194478
Learn grammar as well, it helps alot.
Hey guys wanna see what it's like to have a short term memory so bad you're disabled partly because of it?
>>143194825
>ITH
>>143194907
it fixes itself if you play until it represses them then restart both programs
>>143194926
ah thanks
>>143191784
Could it be that the girl already pulled 40 and is confused that it was pulled again?
>it's fucking 7 in the morning
>don't want to go to sleep before i finish my reps
>hundreds to go
it will all get better r-right?
あんたは自殺する予定があるのか?
>>143195980
>reps before sleeping
>>143183491
Their nonsensical pleasantries are really cute, which really helps the learning process.
>>143196175
what order are those panels supposed to be read in
マペットども調子はどうだい
今日も一日背伸びするぞい
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RgPOZijy1Q8
Any of you feel like helping me translate a game as a side project?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0XsBcE9V0XA
>>143196268
Do I have to translate it into English?
>>143196338
That's what i'm trying to do. I have the text dump but between translating everything and recompiling it i'm having a bad time
>>143196268
Where do you even start with something like that? I mean, how do you manage to replace the text in an online game- wouldn't that have to be something done with server side access? Sounds like a pretty neat thing, all in all.
>>143196459
im reading the words you wrote with 'server side access' right now
what you gonna do about it
>>143196516
>what you gonna do about it
Come again?
>>143196459
The files are stored locally on your computer in .arc files. I can retrieve the data from them, translate it, recompile it, and then tell the game to display something else in their place which then changes the japanese text into english. The problem is making it so that it aligns properly and actually translating it all. There was a team who attempted it before me but they all gave up so all thats doing it now are Russians who literally run the thing through google translate and do it that way
>http://www.mediafire.com/download/zcotasqca3odgff/DDON+Text+Dump+%28game+version+01000006%29.7z
>>143196268
その話はいくらだ
>>143196566
djt cant even translate yotsuba how are they going to hold up to the majestic dragon dogma online
>>143196566
Oh, so it's like a client side mod?
The text file is pretty small, thanks for the link.
>all thats doing it now are Russians who literally run the thing through google translate
Oh jesus, hilarious.
I'm basically of no use here but I'll repost this along with the link in a later thread if I am around, see if someone else might want to join.
Having the lines arranged into a Google spreadsheet or something also might make it easier for a group of people to work on it together.
>>143187463
>Why are you studying Japanese?
Anime, VNs, LNs, games
>What is your goal in studying?
To be able to read without having to constantly use a dictionary
>What is your current level with regard to jlpt or other measurements?
I'm probably around N2, maybe a little lower. I'm too scared to take JCAT
>Whats your goal for proficiency? (N2, N1, only basics, etc)
>What are your studying methods?
Anki: 10 new words, 3 new grammar concepts per day and then reading VN/LN for 5+ minutes per day
>How often do you study?
Every single day, 18 month streak.
Honestly, I'd like to become a translator someday. I'm a lazy useless NEET, but I wouldn't mind working a little if I could do it from home.
>>143196742
What do you use for new grammar concepts?
>>143196742
why dont you just work from home doing something else theres tons of money out there you just gotta find your way to it brah
I've been doing the kanji damage set on Anki for a few months now. I try to memorize everything, including the jukugo. I've always been shit at learning language so it ends up taking me about 2 hours. I've limited my new cards to 20 and reviews to 75.
I've only missed a few days so far, but I'm about to be non stop busy for about two weeks. How much will this fuck up things for me. It feels like even missing one day screws up the process, so what will two weeks do?
Who will /djt/ never forgive?
How many words/kanji do you guys learn per day? I'm currently doing 20 words and 3 kanji a day which I'm pretty happy with
>>143196742
Hey anon, I'm almost through maturing the DoJG deck and that is around three months of study; do you mind if I ask where you are finding these new grammar concepts after 18 months of study?
>>143192542
Anon that's 美味しい
>>143191634
Are you advancing the text after you hook it? ITH won't see the text threads until you've gone through a few lines.
>>143196790
DOJG deck. I'm using it in a really stupid way. I do 3 new cards per day, and for reviews I never hit again, just hard if I don't remember it. Just trying to get some exposure to them.
>>143196793
I think most of those are scams. I have an accounting degree, but from what I've seen, I need experience before I can do any accounting work remotely.
>>143196852
I added the grammar fairly recently, I'm only halfway through the intermediate book.
>>143196813
20-50 words
1-20 kanji
>>143197002
>20-50
Damn son. If you're using Anki, do you learn them throughout the day, or all in one review session?
>>143196962
Ah, well that explains a lot. Cheers.
>>143196809
Shitty colour choice
Today's lesson looks a bit easy than yesterday.
>>143196813
25 words
50 kanji
>>143197026
maybe I'm retarded and don't understand how Anki works but when I learn them throughout the day, Anki keeps putting lapsed cards on the top, so I try to do it in a single sitting to get an actual random spread
it's either a design flaw or a really simple setting I'm missing
does J-CAT factor in the time you take to answer a question?
>>143197026
I'm a little confused. 60 words, recognition and 20 kanji, production, takes me a little over an hour. My short term memory shit pretty fucking average.
Anons, help me here a bit.
I also started learning Japanese, I'm currently at grade 5 of the jouyou (memorized ~800 kanji) and plan to master all 6 grades until the end of July.
So where do I go from here? Do I:
1. Start learning jukugo and study sentences with vocabulary involving the kanjis of these grades, or
2. Keep studying the jouyou until I memorize all the 2136 and THEN I start practising jukugo and grammar?
I don't want to spend the rest of the year mastering the jouyou just to discover later I should've been studying grammar already.
>>143197122
今日は間違いがないね
>>143197122
Did you just ignore the advice about か and シ?
Do you even bother to figure out what you're doing wrong? There's no point in writing if you don't.
>>143197122
まるで日本人のように
えらいなぁ
>>143197409
Start learning vocabulary and grammar alongside what you are doing and you would have to think about it too much.
>>143197451
Fuck off sperg.
>>143197451
theres no point in your life but yet you live なぜだろうか
良かった...やっと持ってる...日本語を読むの腕前。
>>143197451
Your advice is meaningless.
>>143197174
How is that a design flaw? What else could you possibly do with cards you've forgotten? Ignore them?
>>143197415
まだ手書きが弱ですが。
>>143197537
嘘つけるな
How would you translate ビリビリする when it is describing a physical sensation you are experiencing? Specifically the feeling is being felt on the finger.
>>143197724
"Tingling"?
>>143197724
very fuck
>燕 - bird swallow
>嚥 - verb swallow
Yo how the fuck
>>143197739
Oh, that could work. Thanks.
If anyone has any other suggestions, let me know please (although "tingling" is a good one already)
>>143197724
I would like a non-1984isc expression.
>>143197819
"A prickling sensation" is probably more on point.
Protip: if you need some inspiration with translating or understanding sound effects or onomatopoeic words, try searching here first: http://thejadednetwork.com/sfx/search
>>143197687
弱いままでいいよ
かわいいじゃん
>>143197939
protip if you need help with 人生のいろんなこと then 君には幸いボクがいる
>>143197330
I doubt it it barely gives you enough time to answer the questions as is
I'd be more interested in knowing if it counts it if you have the option (a b c or d) selected but run out of time before confirming it
>>143197409
You should absolutely be studying grammar already. You can leave vocab until after you're done with kanji if you want, since it should be really easy to go through core at that point. You'll of course have to at least shove some vocab into your short term memory to study grammar thorugh
夜勤明けや休日出勤の平日代休の楽しみ
how does this parse? "The enjoyment of after nightshifts or vacation days which are weekdays"?
>>143197334
i might not bave been clear. By learn I meant acquiring new vocab and kanji, not revision
>>143197409
get posted up in tokyo asap and ball with the local choppers
>>143198095
You work on a holiday or do a nightshift and then you get not to work on a weekday. It's good.
>>143197812
I like it.
I want to open a clothing store in Beijing and call it "very fuck".
>>143197645
L = lapsed
R = review
N = new
let's say I've done 70 reviews and lapsed on 9 cards
These are the next 10 cards I see if I continue:
RRRNLRRNRL
This is what I see if I put down the deck for 10 minutes:
LLLLLLLLLR
The latter makes lapsed cards easy to recall, whereas the former treats them equally. I get lapsed cards 100% if they're clustered together instead of my usual 85% retention.
I don't see a reason why I get something like a free pass on my forgotten cards just because I had to answer a phone
>>143198109
>By learn I meant acquiring new vocab and kanji, not revision
By having a deck with many unknown words and kanji?
>>143198258
The "free pass" you get is basically a red herring as Anki is designed for long term retention and within a few weeks those words will have started to naturally filter into strengths and weaknesses of your recall, so I wouldn't worry about it too much.
You can also set to show new cards before reviews, after reviews and mixed during reviews. Look up how in the Anki manual.
>>143198095
its sort of like 中出しの喜び if that helps
>>143197512
It can't be helped, I think
>>143198077
Thanks anon. I'll start cramming the Cores after finishing the 6 grades and let the secondary kanjis for later
>>143198128
Uh... thanks
>>143198258
To add to >>143198330, you can also configure the lapse re-learn time (10 mins by default) in the deck options. If re-learning cards is so easy for you then maybe you are better off removing the steps entirely (so failing a card immediately goes into tomorrow's pile without relearning it again on the current day).
Or maybe what you want to do is hide the review counts so that it doesn't "give away" which type of card you are currently on.
Quick, dumb question:
Can i make anki decks on my pc and then import them into the mobile ankidroid on my phone?
