シュヴァルツェスマーケン 殉教者たち
9/30 発売
原作通りのカティアルートに加え、アイリス、リィズのルートが追加。
特典にキルケ主人公の小説が付属。
こんな感じでしょうか？
#シュヴァケン #マブラヴ
So Martyrs is being released this September. Iris and Lise's routes are confirmed to have been added. Turns out that Katia -was- the canonical, true route after all. Kirke is getting some sidestory or route or something.
>>143007551
In other words Katia never even won the bowl in her own route
>>143007559
Anyone whose played the first VN already knows she is working for the stasi even if they haven't read the LNs.
>>143007811
>dumps her for Kirke
Not even Theo is that much of a dick
>>143007144
So November? Not too bad of a wait but further off than I expected. Where is that tulpamancing Beato-sanfag? I'm nervous and I want a hug.
>>143007551
OP you messed up a bit, finding this thread in the Catalog is fucking annoying.
>>143008258
It seemed to me that they will release it the 30th September.
Who /NVA/ here?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G7CC7i6brEI
>cockroach
>Stasi slut
>spawn of Mercedes "Queen of all Whores" Bernhard
Worst girls everywhere.
>>143008361
Go easy on the salt
>>143007551
>No Pham route
Kusoge confirmed.
>>143008361
Do you got a single satisfact to snack that all up?
>>143008444
>>143008404
All they needed is a Pole slut and Beatrix in that picture to have "the worst girl" gallery completed.
>>143007551
Don't fuck me Kouki. Let the Iris and Lise routes turn out better than the LN and anime endings. I need this.
![[HorribleSubs] Schwarzesmarken - 12 [720p].mkv_snapshot_14.41_[2016.03.27_14.27.04].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/eEh6dMJ.jpg "[HorribleSubs] Schwarzesmarken - 12 [720p].mkv snapshot 14.41 [2016.03.27 14.27.04]")
>>143007551
That knife looks really sharp. Wouldn't want to misplace it in a the voluptuous, beautiful major, now would we?
So what do we do with this thread, since its almost inevitable that someone who didn't get the memo will make a new one, when he doesn't find "Muv-Luv" or "Schwarzesmarken" in the Catalog?
PACT PRIDE WORLDWIDE
>>143008744
>not reading the catalog before making a thread
Their own fault desu.
Just let theirs die.
>>143007551
Don't fuck this up Cookie, I've invested too much hope in this. You even got a billion Kickstarter bux. If I find out this could have been better but you spent the money on cars, you'll have to answer to me.
Will there be a route in which Axmann dies in the most painful and horrible way possible?
Even if she is a secondary, Gretel will always be the main heroine of my heart
>>143008937
No, but they'll be three for Beatrix.
山本さんはなぜ巨乳ばかりが亡くなり、貧乳ばかりが生き残るのかといった、ファンも気になっている問題に直面！
The fans asked the director why only the big titted girls died and the flat ones live.
- http://www.anime-recorder.com/ArticleDetail.aspx?seq_no=8328&AspxAutoDetectCookieSupport=1
>>143008396
how i choose the card that i don't want to discard?
>>143008937
Yes. After hopping on board the Lise route and joining the stasi Theo starts peeking around the archives to find out what really happened to her and why he was set free. Cue vengeful manhunt.
>>143009098
you click on the button under it to keep it.
>>143008972
the main bady in Lises route will be axmann and will be probably the best route in the game.
>>143009101
>Theo
>peaking through the archive
Even if someone were to give him free reign to do whatever he wanted with the archive, he's likely not going to go looking just because he's an incurious twat.
>>143009185
The only one who's capable of giving Theo an "epic" end fight is Beatrix.
>>143009246
Beatrix can send him and Lise to finish him off, as he is of no use to her once she takes power. That way you'll get less epic fights, but more emotional closure.
>>143009246
not really. theo joining stasi and the last fight Lise, theo and beato fighting VS whole 666th squadron including irisdina coukld be epic.
>>143009091
爆笑の朗読劇、ゲームコーナー！ ライブは大盛り上がり！
ここからは朗読劇が展開。題して「激闘！ シュヴェルツェス学園」。アニメのシリアス展開とは打って変わって、ドタバタ学園コメディが繰り広げられます。不良に占拠された女子高・シュヴェルツェス学園の廃校を阻止するために立ち上がるカティア……というトンデモ設定。
リィズ、アネット、キルケの3人で結成された不良軍団「シュタージ」の暴走、シルヴィアのパンチの効いた実況、愛する男を奪い合った因縁の相手アイリスディーナとリィズの水着でのキャットファイトなどなど、見どころが尽きない朗読劇には会場も大爆笑でした。(ちなみに、夜の部は「シュヴァルツェスラーメン道」というタイトルで別のストーリーが披露されました)
Did I read this right? Schwarzesfest had AU Highschool SM comedy play, with Katia trying to prevent the Highschool being closed or something?
>>143009711
>AU
nani?
>>143009246
>only one giving Theo an "epic" end fight is Beatrix.
A final vengeful, personal confrontation in the woods by the border where Theo catches up with Axmann as he tries to flee the country resulting in a bloody knife fight devolving into a brutal fist fight which devolves further into Theo beating Axmann's head in with a rock like a primal animal. Theo avenges his family while Iris and Beatrix settle their score in a tsf match the way it always should have been.
>>143009711
No, you read right. The 666th plus Lise and Kirke attempt to stop their school's closure. I'll assume it's either Beatrix or Axmann who were the antagonists.
>>143009759
Alternative universe
>>143009101
>manhunt
I want to do one of those to Axmann and videotape it for Lise!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGuhX5AmjuA
>>143009711
リィズ、アネット、キルケの3人で結成された不良軍団「シュタージ」の暴走、シルヴィアのパンチの効いた実況、愛する男を奪い合った因縁の相手アイリスディーナとリィズの水着でのキャットファイトなどなど、見どころが尽きない朗読劇には会場も大爆笑でした。
Iris and Lise also have a catfight in the pool over Theo.
>>143009901
>blondescum hurting each other
Proceed.
>>143009185
Lise's route will be the best.I hope.
>>143009901
Of course they did. SM extra when.
>>143009937
Someone sure is grumpy today/
そしてここで、2016年9月30日(金)に発売されるゲーム『シュヴェルツェスマーケン 殉教者たち』の新情報が公開に！今回キービジュアルが初お披露目となり、そしてなんと、ゲームオリジナル要素として「カティア」「アイリスディーナ」「リィズ」の3ルートがあること、初回特典として内田弘樹さん書き下ろしの小説が付属することが発表されます。ちなみに小説の主人公はキルケとのことで、この事実を知らなかった沼倉さんもビックリしていました。
Huh, this claims that its not a Kirke-route/sidestory but a Kirke LN or something that will be released with the game.
>>143010149
>a whole fucking LN to herself
Good for her Kirke is love butwhy
>>143009976
Odds are you're right. At the very least it will be the most interesting.
>>143010301
Hell if I know. Someone who can actually read jap should go over the article properly, these machine translations are hard to interpret.
>>143010400
>>143010149
And here in the September 2016 30th (Friday), will be available in Game , the merken martyr sur Verdy new information is published to! This will be the first time the key visual and what the game "element as the original Tier", "Iris deana", "riizu", the first time that there is a route 3 benefits of novels are included with the phenakistiscope Hiroki Uchida is announced. Incidentally, the protagonist of the novel, this fact of the Kirkuk Ke and did not know he was shocked by the numakura.
kek
>>143010513
Look at what google translate makes out of Schwarzesmarken:
>Courchevel Tse smart Ken
Quick question
I watched the anime and remember the imouto getting a bad end.
So will the new game fix this? Will imouto get the happiness she deserves?
>>143007551
Katia -> Good route
Iris -> Pragmatic route
Lise -> Edgy route
>>143010640
You're saying the anime was good?
>>143010603
no its babylon translation software
>>143010640
t. katiafag
>>143010626
She gets a route of her own. Beyond that, you'll have to wait until october.
>>143010640
>Katia -> Good route
Dumb luck saves the day and ignorance rules = good?
>Iris -> Pragmatic route
Stuck up suicidal nationalism counts as pragmatism now, huh?
>Lise -> Edgy route
Choosing your family before your friends and putting mankind before your country is edgy now?
>>143010640
katia -> retarded route
iris -> moderate route
Lise -> best route
>>143010640
Iris is the blonde goddess route.
Lise is the blonde sister route.
Katia is the it's treason then route.
>>143010763
To be fair, Lise don't give a shit about anything except her brother
>>143010763
>>143010772
>>143010649
I was talking morally, not qualitatively. Iris will have Theo engaging in a lot of really pragmatic actions while Lise's route will involve a lot of ruthlessness, death, and cruelty.
>>143010868
Lisefags make up a ton of mental gymnastics
>>143010800
True, but I was thinking more about Theo there. The only way he would join the Stasi would be out of love for Lise, thus putting his family above his love interest and squad-mates.
I imagine there could be quite a number of bad ends in a Lise route due to Theo getting cold feet after joining.
>>143010868
You chose your words poorly then. Since Iris is less pragmatic and more Idealistic if you think about it and if you take the retard level evil out of it, the Stasi-route would be pure pragmatism.
>>143010800
Lise's route:
>Onii-san, come with me to the West
>Ok
Que Beatrix catching Lise and Theo attempting to escape. Theo manages to get away somehow.
>Crap, they have Lise. Guess I'll need to help the 666th and the rebels if I want to save her.
>Route then follows Katia route with slight divergences here and there.
>Cookie laughs at all of us as he buys a new car
>>143011012
It would be an improvement, since Theo only cares about himself
>>143011018
>not wanting to have Vanishing Point with TSF's
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OX26vUoVpaU
>Cookie laughs at all of us as he buys a new car
That is already established
Irisdina is scum just like her whore mother.
>>143011312
is sage not a thing anymore?
>>143011312
she is not that bad man. she is damaged too. i kinda like her. but i still like beato, lise and pham better.
>>143011018
What's with Gretel's hand
Is the fixing her hair?
Doing the International Brigades salute?
Can't wait.
Just finished Muv Luv Alt, what I do now? Any more muv luv vns translated? Or which anime is worth watching?
>>143012388
first you need to answer these questions. best girl? reaction to chomp? best arc?
>>143012388
Go play The Day After. 00 and 01 are translated and come together with some pretty interesting side stories in ML Alternative Chronicles. Total Eclipse is watchable on its own. Schwarzesmarken requires you to read a bit, since its a terrible adaptation. And if you form your opinions based only on the anime, the amount of bashing you'll get here will drive you off the threads.
And if you loved Kashiwagi then go play Haruko Maniax, though its more similar to Extra than to anything else.
>>143012476
>Ayamine
>way more surprised when it happened again
>probably the one when it gets back and shit everything
>>143011579
Is Kouki embracing his inner Slav?
How often does Anette have nightmares about Inghild dying?Would you hug her when she wakes up from one?
>>143012543
altered fable for healing and then Alternative chronicles for more suffering. Don't bother with the anime until you have nothing else to read.
>>143012591
Tracksuits are comfy.
>>143012537
>>143012597
thanks guys, now I will need to find a place to download all of that, a long time since I went after VNs
Help, I'm in love with Lise
>>143012931
Why would you need help then? Lise is harmless unless her Onii-chan comes into play.
>>143013034
Why do Germans kidnap girls and turn them into prostitutes?
>>143013470
Because certain other German girls will send the whole country to hell over a petty grudge.
>>143013470
maybe Axmann was Österreicher, it's the national sport there.
>>143012931
>help
Seems like you're doing just fine. And good on you, she could use some more genuine love in her life, poor girl needs it.
>>143013470
Communism, not even once.
>>143011018
Why must their tits always look like balloons?
>>143014139
Because big tits are the best.
>>143014399
Its not the size thats the problem its the poor craftsmanship.
>>143014504
Also the light and shading doesn't make a bit of sense.
![13394050_10154254536782533_8069682247604768755_n[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/c9ksbZB.jpg "13394050 10154254536782533 8069682247604768755 n[1]")
>>143014
this is how real tits works
>>143014399
I'd give Iris twins
>>143011018
you know how much better would be that image from behind with dat asses and side boobs ?
>>143014719
>The severe shortage of ass shots in fortified suits overall
How horrible.
>>143015084
Cookie doesn't like butts.
>>143014719
>>143015084
>>143015551
>Beatos juice behind has gotten only one official illustration
>and It isn't even good
At least the Kirke-fags got some nice service in the anime.
>>143015942
Beatrix has a visible ass from the front.
>>143009807
>everyone showed up, even Axmann's and Walter's VA
>except for Yukarin and Kenichi
>>143016024
You know what I men.
>>143016065
Didn't Yukarin retire?
>>143016116
She had a couple of roles this season and there are rumours of future roles, though.
>>143007551
So from the image I see that Theo is still taking on Beatrix.
You know, no matter how much age will hype up the final battle, it's just not going to be that interesting.
>>143008396
Thx anon
>>143007551
When she's not going full moe, I think Lise is hotter then Iris.
>>143016313
That she is.
>>143016203
They'll likely keep the anime's portrayal of Beatrix as a vicious scumbag to justify her being the main villain in Lise's route.
>>143016116
I think she just "retired" from her major singing career. She'll still continue work as a seiyuu I believe and maybe do insert songs from time to time as well.
>>143016512
>Lise's immediate superior
>final boss in her route
Not if the Lise route is one of thos those "what if" routes. You'll have to take down the whole 666th in her route or kill Axmann in the most satisfying way possible. Or both. But Stasi Lise means you ain't fighting Beatrix, you'll be fighting for her instead.
>>143009807
Damn. There isn't a recorded stream on nico nico or anything is there? I really want to see it now.
>>143016782
Same here :/
>no Farka route
It better has a good end for Lise or I will moderately execute Cookie
>>143016707
It could end with Lise finally breaking free of Beatrix's control, then Theo deciding Beatrix needs to go down.
>>143016834
>:/
Off to the gulag with you, kamerad.
>>143017021
I'm a bad person for wanting to kiss her and pull on her hair tie.
>>143016707
>kill Axmann in the most satisfying way possible
The most satisfying way to kill Axmann would be taking his power away which he values so much and putting him through hell like he did with Lise.>you will never break his spine so he's paralyzed, rip out his tongue and leave Lise "care" for him
>>143016867
Gotta be realistic, anon.
>>143016998
This >>143007551 looks less like the face of a puppet and more like the face of a true believer to me. And seeing that Kouki, who is a huge Beato-fag, and basically responsible for all the exposure she gets , is now directly involved, its unlikely that we'll get a Anime tier, none-eviler, Beatrix.
Unless the anime characterization wasn't Watanabe badly distilling characters but Kouki going full Nihei on us and showing off his fetish.
>>143017021
If I put my "special" creamer into her tea, would she notice?
>>143017167
I just want more Farka, and a happy end for Lise. Is that too much to ask?
>>143016867
Join the Werewolves and get all the Farkas you could ever dream of.
>>143016707
I don't think they'll go that far and make you kill everyone in the Lise route. It'll be a lot more tame than that, it might not even have to do with joining the stasi at all. As for the promo poster in the OP the only time we see Lise wear her stasi uniform is in the past so we'll most likely be getting her backstory properly explored.
>>143017136
Just go full Trumbo "Johnny Got His Gun" on him and then forget he ever existed.
Finally
Hope pre-orders go live soon so I can get all the Katia goodies
>>143017243
Not unless she blew Jürgen when he got leave from the front.
>>143017292
The 666th suspects her too much and the final scene of the 1st VN is her getting her orders from one of her superiors. The Lise route is her either joining the rebels, which is unlikely because it would lead to a bad end by Suzy, or Theo joining Lise in the Stasi, which is likelier.
It would also be a better way of exploring the setting and the characters. You would get the other sides view, instead of just rehashing the Katia route without Lise's death. They have drummed up the Iris/Beatrix rivalry too much to just leave it be, and this is the perfect opportunity to use it. The Iris route to get her views, the Lise route to get Beatrix's views, and the Katia route where the Regime gets toppled, the Wall falls but you learn nothing really about the characters pasts. It fits, quite well, don't you think?
>>143017262
>Farka
For characters that are barely relevant, or even support characters like Pham, no one should expect routes for them. It would be hilarious if something strange happens and you get a Walther route and none of the others though.
>happy end for Lise
I suppose it could happen, we'll see.
>>143017604
>Not unless she blew Jürgen
With those succulent lips you never know.
>>143017659
Those lips will be covered in her own blood by the end of the game.
>>143017604
Makes sense except the bad end by Suzy part, if Lise defected to the 666th there would be no reason to execute her later when the coup happens.
>>143017473
how does it feel knowing that Katia is the anime route and that she doesn't even win
>>143017783
Suzy's hatred of the Stasi was so great that she had Theo execute Lise in the LN, where she was already a prisoner, and a great number of others. I'm sure that she wouldn't make exceptions for former Stasi.
>>143017811
You mean how does it feel the LN is the Katia route?
Feels great because it's what everyone knew already from reading the LN
>she doesn't even win
She's still alive and that's good enough for me
>>143016431
I think it would be funny to watch Lise drop the super moé imouto act when she becomes confident that Theo isn't going to abandon her or pick sometime else, and behave more like Iris or Beatrix than Katja. Less affectionate, less clingy, but more sincere in her affection to Theo.
If she was the XO for werewolf, it means she is the same rank as iris at a younger age with a higher status job. It would be cool if they showed us why she earned that after only a year or so on the job.
>>143017922
Fair enough, looks like there is no way out for Lise after all unless Iris, Walther, and the rest of the 666th vouch for her, not to mention Katia would defend her which would carry a lot of weight and by extention General Heim. Just depends on how much individual authority Suzy has when Iris is around.
>>143017811
Why throw shade? He did nothing but say he's excited for Katia merch.
No Sylwia route?
>>143018233
She's an Oberleutnant. She'd be the same rank as Pham, not Iris.
>>143018285
>Slywya route
About as likely as an Axmann route. I bet the best she gets is the chance to live depending on whether you pick Iris, Lise, or Katia. Same with Pham.
Also, I wonder if Anette will avoid the death flag in all routes.
>>143018407
>Axmann route
I want that as long as I get to mindbreak girls
>>143018233
>super moe imouto act
But thats how she is naturally. If anything she'd act more like her old self with Theo around.
>>143018407
>Anette defies death in every route.
Is it a curse. Or a gift.
>>143018407
>>143018490
He's probably the most sympathetic, realistic, and likable of the stasi trio anyways.
>>143017415
Too quick. He deserves to suffer and then get killed.
>>143018722
And yet Axmann and Schmidt get an instantaneous death while Beatrix gets the Vivi treatment from Theo.
So does the theory that Theo is the Master still hold so long as we don't know what these new routes will reveal or change?
>>143007551
Katia best girl.
>>143018833
Yeah, it does, unless you actually think the happy ending the anime implies is true.
>>143007551
kek. katia doesn't even win in her own route.
>>143018722
You do know what "Johnny Got His Gun" is about, right?
>>143018780
>Axmann
>instantaneous death
His death throes aren't specifically written out in the LNs
Theo just notices his corpse among others in Pariser Platz
>Beatrix gets the Vivi treatment
She didn't get coup de grace'd like Vivi
>>143018833
I think Theo's VA said long ago that Theo was the master or something like that
Gretel is the worst "girl" to ever exist.
>>143019038
No, Kenichi and Kouki did say that the enemy of humanity thing is really important though, and it's kind of ironic that the Master's arch nemesis is Yuuko.
>>143019122
>>143018566
Wonder if Master and Axmann would get along.
>>143007551
The age of AGE is here
>>143019122
how can Theo be arch nemesis to Yuuko when she is on a whole different keikaku level than he is?
I want to give a shower to a sweaty Irisdina
>>143019202
>Theodore buddying it up with Axmann
Stop
>>143019202
I wonder if Iris and Marimo/Meiya
or
Beatrix and Yuuko/Sumika
or
Katia and Yuuhi
would have gotten along?
>>143019202
>show me the tapes
>Call your friends in
>you will never punch Sumika in the face
>>143019375
sumika and katia would probably get along since they are both air heads.
>>143019491
>two cockroaches in one house
Scary thought.
>>143019427
why even live?
>>143019375
>Beatrix and Yuuko
They'd get along just fine.
>Katia and Yuuhi
Yuuhi and Meiya are basically the same person in deifferent situations. Katia is too naive and airheaded, for lack of a better word, to get along that well with someone who believed that you sometimes had to get your hand dirty if the greater good demanded it. iris is a better fit, if only because she is "nobler".
>>143019491
we'll get our personal sumika figma to punch at some point.
>>143019623
>Katia is too naive and airheaded,
Yet Katia's smile brings hope and her ideals can move people to tears.
>>143007551
I guess this settles that Iris, Katia, and Lise are the "Martyrs" of SM.
>>143019888
I want to make Katia say "I hate niggers" during her speech.
>>143019777
>>143019888
What is up with these trips?
>>143020000
quads beat trips
>>143019888
>Yet Katia's smile brings hope and her ideals can move people to tears.
Only the first one is arguably true. You pulled the second one out of your ass. Unless you cried during that shitty speech.
Also:
The>>143020000 Quads have spoken.
>>143020053
Kurt cried when she told him of her ideals (after he told her of his waifu), and it was at that moment that he became determined to save Katia, even if it cost him and his people's lives.
>>143020122
I want backup for that claim.
I want to protect Vivi and headpat her all the time
>>143019943
I want to yell "penis!" during her speech and see how she reacts.
>>143019939
how can Katia be Martyr if she doesn't die its an oxymoron
>>143020377
I want her to just snap and pull something like this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WDrgwZsGC9A
>>143020248
Why is Katia so fucking useless?
https://www.twitch.
tv/planetwarrior
/v/
28222886?t=16m30s
>>143020393
Then it means she dies in Iris's route. Iris dies in Katias route, Katia dies in Iris's route. Seems fitting to me.
>>143020195
Fine I'll give him backup
Play the VN
Episode 8
街の灯
but I will say this
It wasn't her ideals that moved him to tears
It was that she saw through him and his speech and understood what he and his soldiers were going through.
He does though believe that if it's Katia ,she can live up to what she told him.
>>143020461
That stasi LT tho. I just love how all the stasi women have blow job lips.
>>143020780
I think that there's multiple clues that point to Katia being for the best.
So VNfags, who's actually more evil? Beatrix or Axmann?
>>143020780
Hmmm. This disproves his point, but it supports the whole Katia's spirit and willpower can't be broken bit. Which is an aspect that you Katia-fags never really address. That is far more important than the whole "goodness" and "Ideals" aspect of her.
>>143021011
Well, Axmann serves evil for his own selfish goals while Beatrix is evil and doesn't need an excuse to act out on it.
>>143021011
Axmann. He doesn't commit war crimes out of necessity, he does it for entertainment.
>>143021011
beatrix of course axmann is like an angel compered to her,
>>143021079
t. Type 94
>>143021011
beatrix is hitler. its all you need to know.
>>143021011
Is that even a question?
>>143021071
>Katia's spirit and willpower can't be broken
This was never put to the test.
>>143021088
>he does it for entertainment.
No he doesn't. Every scene that shows him committing some shit always showed him going about it callously. He doesn't even execute anyone in the show. Hit total kill count is actually tiny compared to pic related.
>>143021274
Thats the impression she seems to give to people in-story. It would be nice to see what would happen if she took a trip to the funhouse.
>>143021115
>>143021213
>>143021271
>"VNfags" giving their opinion on someone who only trolls the 666th and acts sexy for the entirety of the first VN.
>>143021391
Does Marai get a death scene in the VN?
>>143021460
Purge wasn't covered in the first VN
>>143021429
>Thats the impression she seems to give to people in-story. It would be nice to see what would happen if she took a trip to the funhouse.
Then why is everyone always going on about how they have to protect Katia's purity like she's the second coming?
>>143021563
That's too bad. It would have confirmed whether it was just some bald stasi or if it was Beatrix doing the torture and execution.
>>143021391
And Iris, a main heroine, was delegated to a background role in "every scene" the anime had to offer.
The anime is basically its own thing.
>>143021649
but it wouldn't prove much. She isn't in control till the end of the LN/VN so she is probably carrying out orders of higher ups like axmann(colonel) and erich schmidt(minister). she is a major.
>>143021709
They were following the Katia route though.
>>143021603
The cuteness?
The need to keep someone so useful alive?
No Idea. But most of it originates from Irisdina, right? She knows who she is and how useful she can be from quite early on. It makes sense that the 666th, who are most of the people who interact with her, would be specially protective.
>>143021709
She sucks, so that's not a bad thing.
>>143021429
Knowing Katia if she got sent to the funhaus she'd just go full Sumika and roll with it.
She'd wake up one morning with no teeth left in her head and a permanently gaped pussy and asshole, her entire body encrusted with dried semen, she'd look around at the bodies of the Stasi motorized rifle regiment she just fucked to death, and walk strait out the front door to find herself more cock.
>>143021763
Well, torturing someone because you have to and enjoying that torture are two completely different things. Jack Bauer would be way less sympathetic if they showed him enjoying his interrogation sessions.
>>143021841
she doesn't enjoy tourture. That is anime thing and why it is considered bad adaptation. she enjoys trolling and teasing.
>>143021011
Axmann is rotten. Beatrix is just broken.
>>143021908
I actually like the way the anime divided up the stasi. Beatrix was the bloodthirsty and brutal warrior, Axmann was the cowardly and conniving backstabber, and Schmidt was the politician. It's like you wouldn't expect Beatrix to be the martial one based on appearances.
>>143021781
If the anime was Katia's actual VN route then that would be incredibly dull and disappointing.
>>143022028
>It's like you wouldn't expect Beatrix to be the martial one based on appearances.
If they had kept her original charm and sexyness intact. They shoved the fact that she was going to be the final boss in your face, from episode one on.
>>143022109
Katia's route is the "true" route. Irisdina and Lise are the original routes added to Martyrs.
>>143022158
>Katia's route is the "true" route.
I don't have memes strong enough to respond to this.
Have a headpat.
>>143007551
lol
who cares, is not the trilogy.
>>143022109
But the anime hardly covers all of SM
>>143022231
原作通りのカティアルートに加え、アイリス、リィズのルートが追加。
Katia was the original route, Iris and Lise the added ones.
Why is Walther such a lucky man?
>>143022231
katia gets imouto-zoned in her own route and Theo still wanting Iris over her.
>>143022337
He's not lucky, he earned his Sylwia.
That's not luck, it's hard work and dedication.
>>143022337
Because he has great tastes in girls. If it wasn't for Jurgen, he probably would of been riding the Beatoroute.
>>143022446
don't you have a "this is your x tonight" thread to be posting in?
>>143022447
>Walther heals broken girls
>Theo kills them
Everyone needs a Walther in their lives.
>>143022660
Walther didn't heal Beato.
>>143022475
Fuck off, generalshitters. This was the shit I was angry about way back when the second episode had yet to be aired and you were trying to pull a general, insisting it would be "okay" because it was "just while the show was airing".
>>143022728
>This was the shit I was angry about way back when the second episode had yet to be aired
So you're effectively braindead? I already regret engaging you.
>>143022684
Can't heal a girl with a TSF anon.
>>143022728
Do you pull this with the now "never-ending" GuP general as well? Or are just going after the easiest "prey"?
>>143022684
He didn't heal Lise either, but he probably would have tried if he knew her like he knew Beato and had the time. Point is thats the kind of guy he is, to try even if the person themselves doesn't believe they can be saved.
>>143022660
That's NCO's for you, baby.
>>143023083
>>143023167
I want Beatrix-sensei to step on me!
>>143023083
>>143023167
That's pretty much how I'd imagine MILF Beatrix would look if she survived and made it to Takeru's time.
>>143021709
Katia's the main heroine though.
>>143023083
That getup makes her look like a heroine from a nukige.
>>143023503
Gee, you think.
>>143023600
Does the anime of that have an even remotely positive ending? I'm afraid to find out.
Also more Beato nukige heroine pics.
>>143023708
Which one? SM or Annerose?
>>143023745
The latter.
>>143023708
>Does the anime of that have an even remotely positive ending? I'm afraid to find out.
Anime adapted the bad ending if I remember right.
>>143023360
Remind me, memester, which one got the first and last volume covers and had the most overall prominence and importance in the story?
>>143023708
>Does the anime of that have an even remotely positive ending?
Depends on who you where rooting for. Did you bet on the 666th? If the end was meant to be bittersweet, I'm left wondering where the bitterness is. You bet on Beatrix? Well, there is none eviler, thanks to Watanabe.
>>143023772
Fuck, and not in a good way.
Beato gets fucked over even in alternate hentaiverse. Why am I not surprised?
![Schwarzesmarken - 12 [4FC957A8].mkv_snapshot_14.20_[2016.04.15_18.20.24].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/vP2p5Vn.jpg "Schwarzesmarken - 12 [4FC957A8].mkv snapshot 14.20 [2016.04.15 18.20.24]")
>>143023754
Annerose's anime follows the worse ending of the VN, the one that you basically have to be going out of your way to get, so the bad guy wins, the red haired chick dies, the brown haired chick dies, Riku dies trying to save them, and Annerose basically gets the same treatment Beatrix got.
It's a common theme in Lilith soft adaptations. You have to play the game to get the happy ending where they marry and all.
>>143023836
Katia wins the theobowl in the extended VN ending, also kiss CG.
>>143023844
I was asking about the hentai.
>>143023889
>brown haired chick
Meant to say delicious brown dies. Badguy rips her to in half.
>>143023836
Which one is the most popular again? And Beatrix has technically been on more covers then Katia by this point.
>>143023889
>nukige
>anime kills everybody
whyjapanwhy.jpg
>>143023889
Nips love their kinky non vanilla shit.
>>143023897
I believe it. Her death would be the tipping point he needs to become The Master.
>>143024043
>Which one is the most popular again?
Katia. Even polls here leaned sharply in favor of other heroines when they were single vote, but once you allow people to vote for multiple characters? Katia leads overall because she's not polarizing like the other heroines.
>by this point
Doesn't matter one lick to what I said, nice job dodging the question. Katia is the intended main heroine, which is pretty obvious from the anime (much as the Kiminozo director would like you to believe otherwise), the aforementioned LN covers, etc.
>>143023897
Yeah,kissing in a pool of her own blood when she's dying because Theo can't protect anything at all.
>>143024171
>which is pretty obvious from the anime
the only thing obvious from the anime was they were getting the shit bond villain route out of the way first
>>143024043
>Which one is the most popular again?
Popularity changes the existing narrative somehow?
>And Beatrix has technically been on more covers
Beatrix has been on 3 covers (2 of which are prequel)
Katia has 3 covers ( 1 of which is a bundled LN with the the first VN)
Iris has 4 covers ( 2 of which are with Beato in the prequel)
>>143017243
Well, no point since she already has her own creamer.
>>143017774
You sadist.Unless it's dying Beato giving Theo a kiss in her secret route
>>143018407
Of course Anette will avoid death in every route. Having her watch everyone die is more torture to her than just ending her.
>>143018833
Well, it only sort of holds as it is. There's plenty of proof and coincidence the Master is Theo, but there's also some points not.
So it remains speculation.
>>143023083
>>143023167
>>143023360
MAKE HER A MOTHER
>>143023772
>>143023083
Will Beatrix be dateable or sexable in the DMM game?
>>143024563
She should be sexable. As far as I know only heroines are dateable.
>>143024658
Depends if they decide to explore her role as a heroine, or a villain.
She's complicated like that.
>>143007551
>first VN released around Beatrix's birthday
>second released in the same month as Iris's
>>143023083
>>143023167
>>143023360
>>143023600
>>143023914
I've decided. I'm gonna fap to Beato and her look alikes tonight, and none of you have the power to stop me!
![[Commie] Schwarzesmarken - 12 [4FC957A8].mkv_snapshot_14.43_[2016.04.07_13.58.11].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/ipxjLjX.jpg "[Commie] Schwarzesmarken - 12 [4FC957A8].mkv snapshot 14.43 [2016.04.07 13.58.11]")
>>143024904
Have fun.
>>143012476
Someone else that just recently finished MLA and also wants more:
>best girl?
Meiya without a doubt
>reaction to chomp?
I got spoilered on the image long before reading the VN but having context actually made it a lot worse.Shirogane is finally feeling upbeat about having a positive effect on the future only for the BETA to show up and nearly kill him and after Marimo cheers him up after being on the brink of despair THAT'S when it happens?I mean fuck. Plus that sound
>best arc?
I think the 12-5 arc was best, just because it showcased some of the best themes of the VN even if it didn't involve the BETA.
>>143024904
Well, it's not like I even want to
>>143024904
you have excellent taste, sir
What's the proper chronological order for this based on the timeline?
Is it
Schwarzesmarken -> Total Eclipse -> Original Trilogy?
If I may BUTT in
>>143025138
Best episode so far.
>>143025109
correct
SM -> total eclipse -> original trilogy -> TDA following unlimited route
>>143025138
Marrying Yui and have a lots of babies.
>>143024563
Wait a minute, will the game actually be voiced, and using the original seiyuu at that?
>>143025138
Butt out
>>143025203
No, it's why they can get away with having sex scenes.
>>143025214
That remind me that we still didn't have a picture of Irisdina bunny figure
>>143024904
Why am I not surprised?
>>143025109
Well sorta. TE starts earlier than Trilogy, but runs concurrently alongside.Basically, he saves your butt during Ouka without you realizing it.
>>143025138
No.
The fact that you can just see the inklings of her fabulous butt in nearly all of her appearances just makes not seeing it all the more painful.
>>143025431
The guy in the back here saw it. Looks like 4 things were at ACHTUNG.
>>143025431
Just that teasing of her ass you get between her thighs is enough to send my dick into haywire.
>>143025431
I appreciate the volume of tit service in SM but a little more butt couldn't hurt, Kirke can't hold that fort on her own.
>>143025615
I think the Japs prefer tits.
>>143025340
>>143025431
>>143025512
>Jurgen: Her eyes were what drew me to her. They were beautiful, more precious and wonderful then any ruby on this Earth, yet filled with such sadness, like a wilted rose.
>Theo: Her malevolent blood colored eyes seem to glow with hate as if the fires of hell were burning behind them.
>>143025615
I remember some of the Japs finding the focus on Kirke's ass to be bizarre in the anime.
>>143025828
>Theo being a little bitch as usual
>>143025791
Tits are life giving.
But, if there is no tit then there must be ass. If there is no ass then there should be tits. Balance of life.
>>143025214
I don't remember Iris having the ass of a Brazillian exotic dancer?
>>143025828
They'reboth right. You have to remember though that Theo sees her later. Much later. After many events came to pass.
Funny Jurgen puts it that way, it was her eyes that drew me first too. I remember now, many moons ago, I look back, and what first made me fall in love with her were her eyes.
>>143025791
>Yeah I'd still fuck my shota brother, what of it?
>>143025972
Tits are a sign of civilization.
>>143025871
Can you blame him? If you were confronting your enemy, it's more likely you'll see them in a not so positive light unless you're some kind of romantic who will see the beauty in all things regardless.
>>143026108
Can I watch?
>>143026233
Equating erogenous zones with "civilization" is a sign of the age of decadence.
>>143026233
And good health + fertility. Tits are also love.
>>143026108
You're gonna do it with the ribbons on? What if they get dirty? Pham also looks mighty hungry, are you okay with sharing? Don't leave Katia out, she seems very hesitant about these things, and Iris is pretty big competition are you sure you can do this?
>>143026285
Tight clothes fitting on succulent breasts!
>>143026443
Don't get me started on Iris's twins again anon.
>>143026239
There was this one hot girl who I really hated. I still thought she was extremely hot.
>>143026422
>competition
I'm sure they could manage one night of sharing anon.
>>143026527
In such a occasion don't believe Lise can hold a monopoly on Shotadore for long when there's a lot of potential predators out there.
See this. Wat do?
>>143026718
feed her american eggs
>>143026718
Give her a tracksuit to wear, she must be cold.
>>143026491
Same here.
>>143026679
Have you forgotten who you're talking about? Lise could fuck them all into a coma, she won't be having much trouble with competition in the bedroom. Theres only one Shewolf in that picture
>>143026876
Mother of god MY DIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIICK
>>143026718
Take her home and take care of her.
>>143026876
>>143023167
What is with stasi girls and sensual lingerie?
>>143027144
Germans have the best taste in uniforms. It extends to lingerie.
>>143027042
yuuya tried that and she dies of esper aids.
>>143027144
They're weapons. Like the elegant kinds you buy to display in your private home.
Lise makes actual use of them though.
>>143027144
>>143026876
Why are Lise and Beatrix basically dressed in the same lingerie anyways? Did Beatrix drag Lise out with her to go lingerie shopping or something?
>>143027236
Like I would let that happen.
>>143027245
I want to buy Lise and display her in my private home. Lingerie optional but encouraged.
>>143027236
Why do all the pretty flowers muv-luv verse have to be destroyed?
>>143027314
There's nothing science fiction military drama about Stella's ass. Only that it brings strength to my fleshy man pole like the awakening of a strong coffee on a early Monday morning.
>>143026239
He's extremely scared of her, that's the point. He's good at analyzing these sort of things, since it's part of what's kept him alive since. Trying to discern the hidden.
It's not that he doesn't think she's beautiful, because he does. In fact, it's what really unnerves him.
What else unnerves him is that she talks to him pleasantly and kindly - he can sense the hatred and bitterness in her voice when being playful with Iris, but she has none of that for him. That's what scares him. He knew she was asking him to join them, and it was worrying because she didn't have an ulterior tone to her voice.
Beatrix banks on this by the way, she knows how to use language for maximum effect. She knew Theo is obsessed with staying out of the state's spotlight, she chose her words to let him know that his observation rating had increased thanks to Katia, and she knew he would understand her words.
>Beatrix's entire point is humans need to be sacrificed because they will never unite to beat the BETA together
>The biggest roadblock that's causing them to stay in chaos is Beatrix's side being murderous, untrustworthy, power-hungry psychos trying to overthrow the established order
>Total self-fulfilling prophecy
>There are people who think Beatrix has a valid point to make because "B-b-b-but mai fraulein waifu."
Can she even be more wrong?
>>143027731
>stuttering
I was with you until there. Why do you feel like being condescending will prove a point?
>>143026718
Ask her for what she fights for.
>>143026747
kek
>>143027395
She was not the prettiest, strongest flower in the garden, but she was beautiful in her own way. The memory is important anon - if you keep them in your heart, they're never really dead. Instead, the flower will grow from the fertile soil of your love.
Nurture and protect that flower, anon.Why has no one done a proper scan of this, why?
>>143027731
>shitposting in two different threads
>>143027731
>it's a crossborder thinks the anime is the basis for beatrix's character episode
wew lad
>>143027783
Because he doe3sn't have a point, and being condescending is the only way he can simply the arguments enough that they pass muster.
>>143027370
I want to give Lise a long life and happy marriage.
>>143028103
>Mr. Eberbach
>I'm Sta. Si.
>>143027600
Sounds like waifu material to me.
>>143028440
What a scary waifu.
>>143027600
I think you're giving Theo too much credit mate.
>>143028657
>anime
>>143028700
And he's even more moderate in the LN.
>>143028657
>"Look my way! come with me! I gave everything away for you! Killed for you! Threw away some dignity too! Just for you!"
>"Where's Iris again?"
Savage.
>>143028799
At least unlike the LN she got one of the things she wanted the most.
>>143028891
She wanted his love, not his dick.
>>143028103
Anyone got the 4chan fix for this?
>>143028921
Well dick too, as long as love went with it.
>>143028651
are you a man or a bitch?
>>143029061
Yeah, thanks.
>>143028891
Did that really happen in the BDs or is it a mockup?
>>143029214
Yep its true. just waiting for the next BD to come out to know what else they added or if its just that one shot.
>>143029312
Well, we know Lise and Iris' seiyuu, at least, do eroge. Not expecting full blown H but we might, just might, get some ero audio.
>>143026718infiltrate the iron curtain
>>143028964
Yeah, but If Theo left his penis lying on the floor of the of the Stasi Funhaus in a pool of blood, she'd still want him and she'd still want to spend the rest of her life with him. It's not as if a forced autopenectomy is something that Axmann would be above arranging.
>>143029611
True, luckily thanks to her he never had to. But saving Theo's dick comes at a price.
>>143029061
Those eyes are terrible. I decided to do a quick fix with gimp. I'll see what I can do about the skin color. Beatrix is described as having beautiful ivory skin and midnight black hair in BiS, so I'll see what I can do.
>>143029812
Not gonna lie if I ever apprehended Axmann, with any sort of authority, the first thing I would do is inject drain cleaner into his testicles. If I needed him alive I'd run over his feet with a forklift and make him stand at attention in a bucket of mixed urine, animal blood and feces without food or sleep or for a few days. If he gets thirsty he can drink the stuff he's standing in.
>I'll tell you everything I know!
>I don't need to know anything.
After he collapses get him on a hefty dose of antibiotics to keep him alive, and maybe a bunch of prednisone, enough to induce the really nasty side effects.
If I don't need him alive, I'll make him stand in the tub until he dies. but the point is that even if he does survive, his health will be permanently ruined and he won't be able to survive for more than a few days without constant medical attention, and he'll be in constant pain.
>>143030818
tea lmao
>>143030818
To be honest if I ever apprehended Axmann I'd just summarily execute him, because the danger posed by his being alive and outside my control vastly outweighs any possible benefits i can get from his cooperation.
But If I absolutely, positively had to keep him alive for whatever reason, it would be perfectly reasonable to leave him in a physical condition which prevents him from ever being independent, and hopefully prevents him from being able to think strait for more than a few minutes at a time. On top of physical capacity, breaking his will is necessary for him to ever be useful towards any ends which do not align with his own. Given the obvious danger which he presents anyone who is not him, in order to keep him physically alive, you have to permanently disarm him, well past what simple confinement can offer.
>>143031485
Also he more than deserves it.
>>143029827
Lightened the skin a little.
>>143031545
well, it's not about punishing him, it's about defending myself from the obvious and indisputable danger that he presents even in captivity. There is no way you can extract from one human body any amount of punishment that would come close to being sufficient justice for the crimes he has committed.
Also, I'm more of a contrition/forgiveness/redemption sort of person, if I had to leave him alive for whatever reason I'd be more than willing to help him seek penance for his sins if he was truly motivated by guilt. I'd just need him to be deprived of his weapons for the simple protection of myself and my loved ones. Since unfortunately his mind and his willpower are his most dangerous weapons, any attempt to render him harmless will come across as superficially cruel to outside observers.
>>143007551
>Theo and Beatrix knife fighting in the background
Who's looking forward to some penetration CGs?
>>143031837
Both have some good dick sucking lips here.
>>143031837
I'd prefer if it ended differently but if theres no helping it
>>143032000
>the most beautiful girl
>dying like this
It kind of hurts, even if it was deserved.
So now that the anime is all finished, were the /m/ LNfags bsing us, or were they correct?
>>143031948
>>143031837
This whole thing could have been avoided if Bea had a nice older brother for double dates.
>Iris is too busy to cause trouble for Jurgen and Bea
>It's hard to tell Ketchup any family secrets with a cock in her mouth.
>She only spends time with Mercedes in order to learn new sexual maneuvres
>Once she gets the penetration, Bea can play the "whine about obvious double standards" game until Abel lets her ride the Bernhard-on without anyone getting tossed out of a helicopter
>The coup succeeds, East Germany is saved from communist aggression, shifts to full wartime mobilization and evacuates non-essential personnel like playwrights and their families
>Lise gives Theo her first time on the warm, sandy beaches of the Bay Of Pigs
>>143032124
>all the LNfags were in on a conspiracy to make Beatrix look right and the rebels look wrong
Even the goddamn VN is gonna have changes and thats not just talking about different routes. What happened in the anime doesn't prove what happened in the LN.
>>143032124
No, they were all wrong. The moderate Rebels are the good guys.
>>143032525
t. Hillary Clinton
>>143032577
Iris and Beatrix can erase their history. Maybe with a cloth or something.
>>143031837
I don't think the anime went far enough with her death. First off, the fight leading up to penetration should of been more desperate and brutal, less one sided. Have both Theo and Beatrix get smacked around more, and show them sweating, panting, and bleeding before Theo tries his maneuver. When Beatrix's cockpit was breached, it should of been gory, to the point where they would of had to censure it like Vivi or Inghilde. They should of also done more to show her in pain, maybe more grunts, shudders, squeaks, and clenched teeth/eyes. Maybe some genuine despair before she died rather then a face like pic related. Finally, no peaceful smile or anything, Beatrix's death isn't peaceful, it's horrible.
We should of had something like this instead:
https://www.twitch.
tv/planetwarrior
/v/
28222886?t=18m40s
I'm not being edgy or anything. I just think that Beatrix's anime death didn't have the impact or gravitas it should of had.
>>143032227
>East Germany is saved from communist aggression, shifts to full wartime mobilization and evacuates non-essential personnel like playwrights and their families
>Lise gives Theo her first time on the warm, sandy beaches of the Bay Of Pigs
Fuck this gay earth. Why'd she have to suffer so much?
Iriszuri
>no Gretel route
>no Annette route
It's shit
>>143019943
>I hate krauts who disagree with me but I hate the BETA more
t. Katia
>>143019943
Moonman moonman, can't you see?
>>143032124
>Do you dicks read SM just to spoiler it for the rest of us
I think I see why they all left for /a/.
>>143033459
They either lurk or stopped posting. I still don't fully get what happened.
>>143033503
They were attacked a lot before the anime came out for some reason (maybe jealousy). Apparently people didn't want them, so they all migrated to /a/. Even the one VNfag is here now.
>>143032525
>the moderate rebels are the good guys
oh boy
>>143033874
i think it's satire
the image he's using is the one where iris makes a backroom deal with axmann i believe
I want to tease these nipples.
>>143033669
>the one
come on theres more than that
There are plenty of Muv-Luv works, yet these threads keep circlejerking about the worst spin off entry all the time. Not to mention fanfiction and other awful shit. SM really turned this community into cancer, even more than TE did.
>>143028440
She very much is, even now. Jurgen would be the first to agree.
>>143028657
Not him, but read the LNs man. Our the VN. Yes he's paranoid, but it's not like they aren't out to get him.
All we can hope for is the secret Beato route. Then you'll know true pain, true love.
>>143034532
It's just people trying to force discussion and turning the general into their own board chatroom.
>>143034532
>thread discusses the latest content
Shocking. So instead of discussing something pertaining to those other Muv-Luv works, you make a cancerous meta post.
Why?
>>143034557
>true pain, true love
Lise route has that covered pham, but it'd be pretty neat if "secret Beato route" was true
>>143030382
t. Uday and Qusay Hussein. What other sick stuff do you wanna do in the name of justice?
>>143032093
It's not deserved. It's fucking not.
>>143034557
>>143034647
Beatrix already has a route:it's called Bernhard im Schatten.
>>143035548
Is anyone honestly expecting Beatrix to NTR Jurgen's memory?
>>143034692
see
>>143031831
It's not about punishment or justice, It's about perfectly reasonable and proportional self defense from a threat who can't be safely contained using more conventional methods. If anything, it's an act of profound love on my part towards Heinz Axmann, to save him from those things that would cause him to bring harm to himself and others.
>>143035990
Not really, its too out of character.
>>143034692
>It's not deserved. It's fucking not.
Uh, it's pretty well deserved. Even Beatrix admits that she's pretty fucking evil.
>>143038517
>Even Beatrix admits that she's pretty fucking evil.
Well, she's wrong about that.
>>143038732
>kills and tortures thousands; kills more humans then BETA despite the BETA at East Germany's doorstep
>lacks empathy, there is not a job that is to dirty or horrible for her
>fascist, wants to rule over an even more draconian government where there is no individuality or happiness
>supports the regime that is creating all the problems she has to "fix"
>responsible for the majority of the civilian causalities during the rebellion
>prioritizes having Katia raped/interrogated and chasing down the 666th when the rescue her and Pham over killing the BETA
>prioritizes killing the rebels over fighting the BETA and leaves the front unexpectedly, opening up holes that the NVA can't fill
>last moments bleeding out spent gloating about how everyone is going to die and trying to fuck with Theo rather then saying anything meaningful
>>143038517
>>143038732
Beatrix thinks she's evil because she does evil things, for which she hates herself, and looks to her reward, fulfilling her interpretation of Jurgen's dream, as a way of justifying herself and her actions.
But she still does evil things of her own volition. It's just her brand of evil is extrinsic.
>>143032787
Getting stabbed by a CIWS should be extremely gruesome. You're right though.
If this was produced during TE's time, then all the deaths would have been far bloodier.
I want to disobey Gretel at every turn.
I want to make fun of her and humiliate her in front of her subordinates
Teenage Iris and Beato are for bullying
>>143039254
Still not seeing how she's supposed to be evil.
I want to cuddle with Irishime
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Age's site confirms it, its not a Kirke-route, its a Kirke LN.
>>143041013
Why not with both?
>>143041113
Point taken.
Goddamn, they're so cute together. Too bad Muv Luv is just suffering. I'd watch a show about Iris' and Beatrix' friendship.
![[Garuda-Raws] Schwarzesmarken - Episode 3 (BD 1280x720 x264 AAC).mkv_snapshot_04.36_[2016.06.08_00.45.43].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/AjsD1iv.jpg "[Garuda-Raws] Schwarzesmarken - Episode 3 (BD 1280x720 x264 AAC).mkv snapshot 04.36 [2016.06.08 00.45.43]")
Can everyone agree that Katia has the shittiest route in SM? Nobody/nothing gets any satisfactory closure and characters that we want to learn more about are never expanded upon. Furthermore, it's just an Irisdina route in disguise.
Actually, that begs the question, what will the Irisdina route be like? Will we find out her deepest, darkest secrets, and how will it seek to differentiate itself from the "true" route?
And what about Lise's route? Will it just be like Katia's, another Iris route (now there's a scary thought)? Will it give us insight into the stasi's stance, since they really need to be elaborated upon.Finally, will they be giving us (more) cute Werewolves to fondle in the character gallery? Bullying Katerina with my mouse seems like it would be fun!
>>143041252
I think they work better as enemies myself, but I really do want to see a BiS VN, almost more badly then I want to see Martyrs.
>>143041252
BiS Extra would be basically Cute girls doing cute things in the DDR. I'd watch it, but there is one question that bugs me though. What would Jürgen be doing with no BETA around.
>>143041304
They need to differentiate the three routes properly, or it will leave too many questions unanswered, and its not like they can continue milking the story forever.
>>143041365
>but I really do want to see a BiS VN
You and me both, seeing that the LN translation is stalled halfway into chapter one and unlikely to go anywhere.
>Wake up.
>See this.
>Notice she forgot the safety
What do you do?
![[HorribleSubs] Schwarzesmarken - 06 [720p].mkv_snapshot_14.17_[2016.02.17_21.27.32].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/IxKu9m0.jpg "[HorribleSubs] Schwarzesmarken - 06 [720p].mkv snapshot 14.17 [2016.02.17 21.27.32]")
>No Gretel route
Dropped.
>>143041641
>Lise sees anime-only's opinion on her.jpg
>>143041304
There's something very funny about Vivi's face in this image.
>>143041641
Silly me. I forgot to properly sew that stitch together. Here's the corrected version. The color imbalance should barely be noticeable unless you're really looking for it.
>>143042059
Goddamn I want to cuddlefuck her bad. Beatrix is the only girl who can compete.
Another article on SM:
http://www.animatetimes.com/news/details.php?id=1466309813
All the girls were represented in their Extra skit except for Beatrix.
Some of the lines were pretty funny, like Big tits = death.
Katia, Iris, and Lise are the routes.
>>143041304
>Can everyone agree that Katia has the shittiest route in SM?
I remember when all the Katiafags were saying how her route was going to be the best. Suprise suprise, we were on it the whole time, we just never realized it.
I hope you Katiafags are happy. Your girl's ending was the biggest letdown, but at least she got to stay pure and got Theo in the end, right?
>>143041508
Jurgen would probably just be a fighter pilot in a MiG 21 doing adorably irresponsible things like pulling a barrel roll over a B-52 out in international airspace over the Baltic
>>143041641
Play it cool, as her if there's anything I can do for her or if she needs to know anything. Maybe offer her coffee or some breakfast. If she's willing to wait an hour or so I can even make her some brownies.
>>143042103
This is my end goal. I am going to heal Lise with the power of love and understanding and gentle applications of penis.
>you will never save Inghild and also save Anette from her guilt complex
Why live? It's doing two good deeds by doing just one.
>>143032124
I wonder, what WAS Lise's "interrogation" like? I mean if she can break Lise in hours what the Stasi couldn't in weeks, what kind of potential does she have"
It's hard (or maybe not, for me at least) to imagine her level of hatred, paired with ideals that are nominally "good". A very worrying induvidual, since it's only her ideals that prevent her from being absolute villain territory.
>>143038517
>Beatrix hates consider every word out of her a lie at best, delusion at worst
>"B-but here's she's telling the truth!"
>>143035990
I don't see how a theoretical Theo in her life would be NTR'ing Jurgen. For one, Jurgen is dead, and he wanted more than anything, her happiness. Furthermore, considering her level of obsession, part of her route would be the pain of her trying to deny Theo is like Jurgen at all, into the opposite of trying to turn him literally into Jurgen, perhaps followed in the end by acceptance that Theo is like Jurgen, and yet he is his own person and that should be respected, and that is something that can be loved too.
>>143039254
>kills and tortures thousands; kills more humans then BETA despite the BETA at East Germany's doorstep
Do you realize it'd be physically impossible for her to torture and kill that many humans and still be able to perform her duties?
>lacks empathy, there is not a job that is to dirty or horrible for her
Literally everyone on her team proves that's wrong, Jurgen proves that wrong. She literally has extreme empathy, and her willingness to take dirty jobs is partly BECAUSE she has so much empathy she doesn't want to let anyone else sully themselves further.
>supports the regime that is
Oh fuck it. Holy fuck you're delusional, Katiafag.
>>143041304
Goddammit anon, don't jinx it.
>>143042492
>Your girl's ending was the biggest letdown, but at least she got to stay pure and got Theo in the end, right?
She didn't even get that, lel.I actually don't think he is the Master though.
>>143045292
All she has to do is threaten Theo and Lise is done.
Also I like drawing Bea x Lise.
>>143045901
But Germans shaved, didn't they?Also, I got drunk, but didn't have my pen and notebook with me.
Which muvluv should I play first? Are those voiced? Is it all edgyshit?
>>143046535
based on the insane rantings of the Hotaru Maniac on /k/ circa 2007-2008, East German girls didn't shave.
>>143046668
Another bad Soviet habit.
Also, I was decently regular during that time I think, why do I not remember this guy?
I remember Duke Nukem, but Hotaru Maniac?
>>143047339
Hotaru Maniac didn't post with a tripcode until the very end. You just learned to recognize his posts.
>>143047423
I see. What did he post about? Life in East Germany and other things?
Beating up Katia!
>>143047975
So essentially, his life story is thus:
He was raised in the DDR, and was conscripted into the NVA. At some point he fell in love with an east German girl he said looked like Hotaru from sailor moon. after the wall fell he was working as a police officer for a while, before picking up a gig as a mercenary/"peace keeper" in the Balkan Wars. He saw things. He coped with this job by developing a heroin addiction to keep himself busy when he wasn't on patrol.
A while later somehow got american citizenship, and he got a gig with Blackwater. https://youtu.be/P1g-x9ncP8I He is purported to be one of the mercentaries in this video.
In 2007-2008, he claimed to be living in Florida working as a SWAT officer. He suffered from pretty heavy post-traumatic stress, and used a variety of drugs to keep himself at an acceptable emotional equillibrium. He tended to watch cartoons and anime because it didn't trigger anything. Apparently, later on, he got another contract overseas. around that time I stopped going to OPchan, and as far as I know the trail went cold.
It's kind of tough to describe what he talked about, because he pretty much talked about everything. On thing that stuck out for me was a thread he created where he was describing the experience of being in a firefight, because he deleted the thread after a couple of posts.
>>143048187
i hope he's ok
>>143048187
I'm pretty sure the guy with the shit eating grin at the start is him.
>>143048434
yeah. he had also talked about quitting chans because, well, you probably get it.
>>143048464
that's the theory. iirc he denied it but that means nothing.
>>143048187
Oh, I heard of him then.He kind of reminds me of healinganon, in his variety of stuff.
And fuck, talk about a memory trip. I remember that battle in Najaf, it was beeg news back then because it showed the military having too comfortable a time with mercs, caused a stir.
Apparently, Britain's forces had gotten in trouble some years earlier for the same thing, during the whole RUF nightmare in Sierra Leone, because some journo snapped photos of RAF personnel tending to the government/merc owned Mi-24 at Cockerill Barracks. Even though it was the only goddamn thing in the country keeping the RUF from breaking through.Neal Ellis in a fortified suit when?
More Ellen when? All my images of her are years old.
>>143048937
She's basically a blonde Beatrix.
>>143046604
>Are those voiced?
yes
>s it all edgyshit?
no, no one is going to do any incantation like Archer.
I heard you guys like samples.
>>143049616
But that's not all.
>>143049202
But anon, wouldn't blonde Beatrix be her?God I wanna draw her in a Commune of France fortified suit and Commune Rafale
>>143049714
Place your bets. Nude, Swimsuit or Lingerie?
>>143050396
Well, there is no socks. So I'd wager Nude or swimsuits.
I'm leaning on the latter as Katia is in the image.
>>143049616
>>143049714
Someone here got a big version of the image a bit ago, albiet still with sample written on it.
The nekkid peel back though is still as small as ever.
>not putting Katia in between the two predators
YOU HAD ONE JOB COOKIE
>>143050818
this one?
so about 2nd SM VN is kouki writing any of the routes?
>>143026718
Help her?
>>143027314
That's the joke.
Scratch the surface, and it's a maelstrom of despair.
We still don't know what her dark secret is, do we?
HAPPY FATHERS DAY!
Everyone wish the dads of Muv Luv a happy Father's Day, okay!Wish your own dad one too
What would you do to a teenage Irisdina?
>>143051189
kill her before she can snitch out her brother.
I want to sell Katia to faceless old men while she begs for mercy and asks me not to do it with tears in her eyes.
Why must such sweet girls always be ruined?
Will she have a happy ending?
>>143051189
Date her and teach her the taste of love.
>>143051495
Just wait for Iris route, i'm pretty sure he's going to sell Katia for save her waifu.
So let me get this straight: No Pham route, no Sylwia route, no Beatrix route, no Axmann route. What's the point of this game??
>>143052158
we don't know. there are three main routes Lise, Irisdina and coackroach. there may be some short side routes.
>>143052158
Beatrix is secret route
>>143052243
>(theoretical) Sylwia side-route
>at the end she makes a mother of all smiles
Would your heart take it, /a/?
>>143052243
>>143052773
Only Kirke will get a side route
th-thanks Cookie
>>143052712
like the Yuuko ones in unlimited.
I just hope that in Lises route Theo joins werewolfs.
>>143051787
Life is cruel. But maybe she'll catch a break this time around.
>>143053451
He's a lone wolf. He fights alone, and he will die alone.
>>143052973
Nope, she'll get a LN,>>143041113 >>143010149.
http://www.age-soft.co.jp/2016/06/18/
>>143046668
That's then and this is this, which is alternate history. Please do more research.
>>143055895
>necrobumping a dead thread on page 9
Absolutely pathetic
>>143042492
>never
I suspected it but I had hoped it might be different because of how blatantly pro-Iris it is. What, is he going to fall for Katia in the Iris route or something?
>>143055932
>necrobumping
>>143055974
He fell already fell for Iris in the first LN. Now its which imouto's smile he chooses to protect or if he goes after Iris without second thoughts.
Well maybe the VN will make Katia's win in her route clearer.
>>143056030
>there must always be a chatroom thread for me and my internet friends
>>143056054
>win
No matter what else they say, he dumps her for Valentine later.
>>143056112
>using forum terminology for an imageboard in eurozone
Just stop embarrassing yourself.
>>143056405
It's even more embarrassing to force discussion because you can't let go and want to be as cancerous as boatfags
>>143056507
No, the most embarrassing thing is bumping the thread you are trying to engage in poor discourse. Seriously, is sage not a thing anymore?
>>143056608
Bumping a dead thread on page 9 and making generals of an anime finished months ago just to revive it is embarrassing.
Seriously fuck off.
How would SM extra even work out?
>>143051787
None of them are going to have a happy ending.
>>143057593
Kouki pls
Happy Father's day!
https://u.pomf.is/vbiygg.m4v
what do?
>>143059139
with the first you gatcha?
what about kill yourself?
>>143007551
Two routes only?
>>143059803
3 main routes lise, irisdina and katia
>>143059803
>>143060072
Katia is the LN/anime route, Iris and Lise are the VN original routes.
>>143060601
>Katia is the LN/anime route
nice meme
>>143060728
that's the truth.
>>143060728
>原作通りのカティアルートに加え、アイリス、リィズのルートが追加。
Katia's route is the original, "true" route, Lise and Iris are the added routes.
>>143056861
Ostalgie the VN. Half "Sonnenalle", half Muv-Luv Extra.
>>143060993
I think the stasi would still be in it. You might have a subplot of Axmann forcing either Beatrix or Iris to marry him or some shit, and Jurg/Theo having to rescue them.
>>143061062
So Axmann becomes a mean, cunning Sagiri?
>>143061201
Yeah, basically.
Alternatively, if you want to be sadistic, you can set up Extra so that Beatrix still loses Jurgen and then make her the main villain.
>>143061247
But that would not explore what she would have been in other circumstances, and would condemn her to always be a miserable bereaved Widow. I don't think Kouki would condemn his favourite SM character to that destiny.
Unless they want to differentiate between "normal" Extra and "Altered Fable" Extra in SM as well.
>>143061247
naw, they should have Extra be nice. Jurgen can be there, Inghild can be there, heck, introduce three new characters for the kids who died a week before episode one, maybe even have Irena and Kaja there filling in the class.
>>143061519
>Theo and Jurgen shenanigans
>>143062135
>Theo lusting after Iris,
>Iris doesn't even notice him because he isn't jurgen
>Jurgen notices, though, and starts trying to hook Theo up with his sister
>Beatrix is Lise's club senpai
>Sees what Jurgen is doing, tries to put a stop to it, embarassing herself slightly
>Theo is still a reactionary tool being manipulated and used by everyone around him, but it's in a harmless, fun way now
>>143062380
If the age difference stays intact, then Pham, Beatrix and Iris have to be teachers. The whole Theo has the hots for his CO translates very nicely into Theo has the hots for his teacher. It would also be a very nice way of keeping the Irisdina/Beatrix rivalry in place by making Parallels to Yuuko/Marimo. Only this time Marimo not only fights back, but dishes out as much as she takes.
>>143062538
>aggressive Marimo
So Beatrix "Mad Wolf" Brehme?
>>143062599
I was thinking Beatrix=Yuuko, Iris=Marimo, but that works as well. Beatrix lacks Marimo's bad luck with men though, seeing that she managed to go steady for five years. But then again, they never fucked, and we don't know anything about Beatrix's sex-drive.
>>143062538
I just want to see the Sylwia as a student/Walther as a Teacher forbidden love angle. The gotta include it, it's the best lovestory in SM. Especially if Sylwia is the resident class delinquent but goes strait into honor-student mode the moment Walther steps into the room.
Well, not just that. But that would be nice. What about Gretel? She's a little bit older than the others, is she class prez or justthe school janitor?
Katia would clearly be the grade-skipping savant just to justify her being there. Maybe she transferred from Circe's school?
Lise would be in a different class and always coming over to Theo's class on breaks.
>>143062858
>implying that Gretel-sempai is not the leader of the local FDJ district and goes full class rep when people start making jokes about socialism.
>>143062981
>Gretel is school cummissar
>Gennosse Jecklyn, please, this isn't an American University. We don't have to spend every moment of instruction turning our students into Communists, we have other things to study as well.
>>143062858
Is there any real solid plans for SM extra stuff or were those leaked bikini pictures on the tablet nothing after all?
>>143062981
>FDJ
Blue shirts for everyone
>>143063154
they dropped that.
>>143063283
>they dropped that.
2 nukes wasn't enough.
>>143063154
Nothing at all
>>143063283
Sauce?
>>143063283
They could at least give us the finished drawings fuck.
Repaint this one because i like how it turned out
>>143064317
You forgot the eyebrows.
>>143064352
I was really drunk when i drew that one. How about now? They are a little off axis but i think it works
>>143064546
She looks pretty sad now.
The smugest
>>143064627
She looked sad in the reverence. She's had a sad life.
>>143064696
problem?
>>143064664
Sad stuff happened around her, but not to her. Gretel had a relatively easy ride and a happy ending, much like Katia. Unlike Katia, it's less of a slap in the face because it feels like Gretel deserves it.
>>143060072
Hopefully they are good and not just variations of a single outcome of events.
>>143064767
Gretel is a cute state dog.
>>143064776
Oh, stupid me. Thought you were replying to >>143064645 instead.
Yeah, Pham had a sad life. Her whole families dead or something, which is why she's such a Onii-san to everyone else.
>>143062858
I really, really like the Sylwia/Walther forbidden love angle. That would be cute as fuck.
>>143061438
>I don't think Kouki would condemn
There are no depths to his evilness. And his love of cars. There are no depths to which he would subject us to the former to acquire more of the latter.
>>143064940
Katja sees Sylwia out on the prowl just past midnight. Assuming she's up to no good, she follows her, only to watch her going in to Walther's apartment.
Later, Sylwia moves out of the dorms "to save money" but never invites anyone over.
>>143065181
>>143064767
Hey, I said dodge!
>>143064776
>Sad stuff happened around her, but not to her
Nig, what?
Okay she hasn't had state murderers her family and tortures her to oblivion tier sadness, but her whole life's been sad. And now she's lost her family too.
>>143065181
Yes, this.
Well it's too blatant.
>>143066115
The state never touched her family. They fucked with her boyfriend's family though, but even then, Beatrix didn't kill him and he turns up alive and mentally sound in the end.
