What is it about Konosuba that makes it so beloved on /a/ compared to other isekai anime like Re:Zero and Grimgar?
Is it because it's a parody? Is it possible to play the premise of being summoned into a fantasy world straight without /a/ shitting all over it?
Comfy
Light-hearted
Actually fun
>>142850289
Because KonoSuba is actually good.
>>142850289
Because it's a comedy instead of edgy deepshit like Re:shit
>>142850289
Its funny.
The girls and the MC are bunch of horrible people whose suffering we can enjoy.
Other than Darkness, all the girls have quite cute design.
>>142850289
>Is it possible to play the premise of being summoned into a fantasy world straight without /a/ shitting all over it?
Yes.
I guess because it's supposed to be a comedy that doesn't take itself seriously at all, and it does a good job at it.
>>142850402
>Other than Darkness, all the girls have quite cute design.
Fight me.
>>142850424
Her character design in the anime are fuck awful. Those boob plate ruin her.
Pretty decent illustration on the LN, too bad the artist didn't draw her with decent muscle.
>>142850289
Kazuma is not generic nice guy and know his priority
>>142850289
Re:Zero has a huge defense force and Konosuba has its own share of haters, Re:Zero is just more controversial now because it's currently airing and therefore attracts the majority of trolls.
Good characters
>>142850473
>Kazuma is not generic nice guy and know his priority
You can say that about most isekai MCs we've gotten, all the way back to fucking Saito.
>>142850474
Isn't that true for most shows? Unless it's one of those shows where everyone just watched and enjoyed ironically with everyone else.
>>142850289
Because Aqua suffering > Subaru suffering.
>>142850289
It's possible to do anything well, Japan just has a bad habit of coming up with really intersting premises and then using them as a crutch to support the shitty fundamentals(characters,plot, etc).
>>142850538
Still mad at SAO's wasted potential so much
Instead of trying hard to hide its bad points, like being YET ANOTHER shitty stuck-in-a-fantasy-world ripoff, or the deen QUALITY, it parades them in front of you and rubs them all over your face while at the same time taking a massive dump on its genre at every occasion it gets. The MC is an utter asshole, his harem are a bunch or irredeemable bakas
It's magical. It just is, there's nothing more to it.
>>142850495
Louise beating the shit out of him was dumb
Grimgar and Konosuba complemented each other.
>>142850550
Not saying it's good, but it did well enough to still be one of the most popular shows even today, so like it or not, it's selling well, so in their eyes it's good.
I enjoy both shows, fuck me right? Autistic fags on 4chan are too caught up in hating shows it's kinda sad and pathetic.
>>142850553
The VA's pretty great too. Especially Kazuma and Megumeme's.
>>142850289
Funny things are funny
>>142850289
Comedy is universal.
Didn't take itself too seriously.
It was silly and Megumin a cute.
Kazama wasn't a huge dumbass and, aside from stealing panties, was trying to get away from the girls rather than trying to get in their pants.
>>142850289
The comedic direction and VA work was top notch
>>142850289
Anons pretend it's hilarious when it's actually just unfunny shit.
>>142850588
>>142850550
SAO suffered from shitty pacing and a clusterfuck of several arcs that would've benefited from being concise seasons. It was still fun and the very last arc withsuper-AIDS Yuukiwas great.
>>142850674
Nah it's kinda funny.
What they do is pretend that it's not a self insert harem.
>>142850674
It's definitely funny. If you think otherwise then why are you here to discuss it? The comedic value and self-mocking style are it's greatest strengths.
>>142850495
>Saito and Kazuma same
You must be retard
>>142850674
This might be true. Well the first three episodes were actually fun.
I don't know why people continue to compare Konosuba to other isekai anime. Yes, the themes are the same, but the genres are completely different. It's like comparing Lost and Gilligan's Island, because they are both trapped on an island. One is a comedy, the other is shit.
>>142850581
>>142850714
If Aqua tries to pull the same shit pinkrie did, scumzuma would beat her ass.
>>142850669
>>142850602
And people said Sora Amamiya was a bad VA.
>>142850764
Because Konosuba is kind of purposefully taking potshots at the most prevalent isekai cliches? And when you talk about isekai stories in general most definitely trend towards the lighter-hearted more comedic side. Re:Zero's level of edge is completely out of the norm.
>>142850402
>except darkness
>>142850772
>pinkrie
What does that make Aria then?
>>142850772
How exactly would him beat her ass?
>>142850774
Once a pillow seiyuu, always a pillow seiyuu.
Having one good role doesn't change jackshit.
>>142850842
>pillow seiyuu
?
>>142850842
What has that to do with anything though?
>>142850774
Sony pls go.
I can't be the only one that finds meme girl annoying
>>142850841
Benis in anus.
>>142850947
The fanbase is annoying, retards don't have the brain to think that making their "general" once a week, when the new fanfiction is out, would be better for the discussion quality.
Morons just care about how to circlejerk.
>>142850289
Konosuba was liked because Darkness a cute.
A CUTE.
>>142851082
Maso Seiba clone.
>>142850289
Fun
Not edgy
Hot girls
Funny
Sticks to its themes, doesn't pull the rug out from under you with sudden deaths, tragedy etc.
It's comfortable and easy to watch, at any point.
For example, when I come home from work, I want to watch something lite without thinking too much.
>>142851082
Darkness is arguably the most bland character in the entire cast. Both in character and design.
Even the tit-bait receptionist was better off.
>>142851082
Best girl
It's "The Always Sunny in Philidelphia" counterpoint to Slayer's Seinfeld.
I kinda hate it because it's still pretty blatantly a harem, but at least it has fun.
>>142851149
>darkness
>bland
>>142850289
I thought it was just ok. However, the succubus episode is the best and funniest fan service episode I've seen.
>>142851149
>he wouldn't beat the shit out of Darkness while spitting in her mouth and calling her worthless
Top.
Homo.
>>142850473
Kazuma is definitely a good guy though. He'd probably be an absolute blast to party with.
>>142851165
>hating things just because more than one girl likes the MC
It's just fun like The Quest for the Holy Grail kind of fun
>>142850289
for instant, grimgar was shit.
I have not even watched one episode of re:zero, and I don't plan to.
Good girls
Charming as fuck
There wasn't much focus on their sexuality for once, no 'kyaa ecchi' moments, they felt like actual characters
MC was scummy as fuck
Good music
Every episode had nice pacing
Clear amount of love put into the storyboarding
Its fucking good
Its an isekai but it had nothing that makes people hate isekai in the first place.
Episode 9 was weird.
>>142851273
>for instant, grimgar was shit.
fuck you I liked it
>>142851046
Cancerous.
As expected.
>>142851091
don't compare dorkness to that sieba trash.
>>142851182
>>142851171
Darkness was shoehorned in to appeal to people with certain fetishes their fantasies.
In comparison to the other characters...
Aqua is a level of sped that shouldn't exist, Honestly seems to have a learning disability, yet holds a position authority and power.
Megumin isn't stupid but lets her stubbornness dictate how she lives her life, especially with her superiority complex over her explosion magic.
Even Kazuma, our protagonist is willing to, without remorse, say things that are on his mind, and genuinely acts believable in most respects.
Now compare the examples of the cast to Darkness, whose masochism dictates every bit of her character. Even her design is built around gap moe for her masochism.
She doesn't fit.
>>142851273
Give Re Zero a try you cunt. You might as well not be on /a/ if you don't like fun.
>>142851365
Hello anime-only viewer.
Go suck a dick.
>>142851301
Grimgar was an artsy approach to character based storytelling. It was great. Every scene was a treat for my eyes and the attention to detail in scenes where they were just talking was super refreshing. It's sad we don't have more series like Grimgar, but with fans who only respond to HAPPENING injected straight into their fucking testicles i'm not surprised.
Just finished Konosuba and I think I liked Aqua the most. Her character is quite endearing and even unique for a heroine. I don't understand the hype for Megumin though. She's just that generic chuuni loli.
>>142851415
I'm not wrong.
The 'you have to read into the novels to understand a character more' argument isn't valid here moron. If a character sucks ass in the first 2 arcs then there is no amount of backstory that will save them. It'sPiss poor writing.
>>142850289
See this is why I keep saying fantasy world genre means nothing.
I mean would you compare kore wa zombie to sankarea? They're both about a zombie and that's about it.
>>142851447
Generic chuuni lolis are /a/and redditsfavourite
>>142851365
>masochism dictates every bit of her character.
I'm a animeonlyfag and even i was able to see that she is way more that is let on. The last two episodes especially prove that.
>>142850581
She had good reasons to beat that manslut.
>>142851462
The anime did cut out some scenes but her character isn't really well developed initially at least.
>>142851365
You thought too hard about this.
All the characters in Konosuba are self-involved, they seek only personal gratification for their desires and nothing else.
Thats why the first scene with Aqua and Kazuma was so memorable. It her having fun at his expense, and him satisfying his anger in the moment to take revenge.
Aqua then becomes a degenerate overwhelmed by the daily lives and pleasures of the world. She was the first one to mention sex after all, Kazuma probably could have hit that anytime.
Kazuma lives for his peace of mind and little girls. Its frankly obvious that he's extremely inconsiderate of others.
Megu just wants to unload a big one everyday.
Darkness just wants to get treated like she shit but still have that feeling of consideration. Its clearer in the books that she's the most complex character.
>>142851447
Megumin was the same in every episode and i didn't really find her funny. Dorkness and Aqua were fun and best jokes revolved around them.
Find a flaw.
>>142851509
>Kazuma lives for his peace of mind and little girls
m8 his very first succubus request was for an older inexperienced girl. He ain't a lolicon.
![[HorribleSubs] Kono Subarashii Sekai ni Shukufuku wo! - 02 [1080p].mkv_snapshot_11.29_[2016.04.23_21.56.15].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/u3gqHzJ.jpg "[HorribleSubs] Kono Subarashii Sekai ni Shukufuku wo! - 02 [1080p].mkv snapshot 11.29 [2016.04.23 21.56.15]")
>>142851531
>>142851447
in regards to that, i'd like to direct your attention to >>142851365
>Megumin isn't stupid but lets her stubbornness dictate how she lives her life, especially with her superiority complex over her explosion magic.
makes for interesting situations and character development.
>>142851482
I disagree. being more than is let on, and having a deeper backstory are two similar yet very different things.
>>142851501
Exactly.
>>142851509
you make a good point, maybe you're right. I still think some of my points are very valid though. Reading into it is a bad habit of mine
>>142851531
This moment was cute.
>>142851561
>>142851482
Fuck i hit the wrong one. i meant this >>142851485
>>142850289
I thought /a/ liked Grimgar and Re:Zero?
>>142851591
/a/ isn't one person
Also, many people here will rip on the popular shows to keep the casuals out.
>>142850289
>What is it about Konosuba that makes it so beloved on /a/ compared to other isekai anime like Re:Zero and Grimgar?
I liked it because it was not trying to sell the characters to me as being "cool".
Kazuma´s gang are all lame in their own, unique ways, and live, work and become friends despite of that. They are barely fit to live together (they form a group because nobody else wants them in theirs), they are absolutely not fit for their job in the first place, and it is difficult to argue that they get any better at either. But this makes them interesting and loveable outcasts (one important point: they are not outcasts because they are super-powerful or special Mary Sues that everyone hates out of sheer retardation, but because they are useless or weird).
In a generic isekai, they would be disgustingly perfect for both daily life and the adventurer´s job.
If there was a massive fire, Konosuba´s MCs would be clown firemen. The MCs from generic isekai would be Superman. You know that Superman is going to get it right without any effort, but watching the clowns fuck up is far more entertaining and they deserve some sympathy.
>>142850289
>RE: Zero
It'll suffer the same fate as SAO and fall into its own pitfalls. The draw and intrigue for some, is probably the same draw that attracted them to SAO. Both authors had set up a seemingly realistic premise and you'll want to at least watch to see how that'll play out. And then, as you continue to read/watch realize there really is nothing special about it aside from the first few books/arcs that made it what it is. It really is the pinnicale of "Baby's first" like picking up a John Green novel and thinking all YA is John Green.
>Konosobu
The author know what he intended Konosobu to be and that is what made it a good watch that came through the anime adaptation. The humour clicked well, characters weren't entirely likeable and that contributed to the humour, and all.
>Grimgar
I can't comment on that yet it really does seem like the underdog to both Konosobu and Re:Zero, I've seen threads come and go and a decent amount of fans.
Superior goddess
>>142851591
Re:zero gets more hate than love. Do you ever actually read threads that involve Re:zero? There are way more people attacking than defending the show.
>>142851482
The fanbase are cancerous. They ruin any chance for a decent discussion of the fanfiction.
>>142851645
>The author know what he intended Konosobu to be and that is what made it a good watch that came through the anime adaptation
The author is a woman and friends with Re:Zero's author.
KONOSUBA is essentially a fantasy-transposed story about young people with odd but diverse qualifications attempting to succeed in an unforgiving job market.
They struggle with debt, take on jobs they shouldn't because the pay is good, and often get too wrapped up in enjoying small victories to think about the big picture.
Almost the entirety of the show covers them merely trying to survive in this world, and maybe make enough money to move out of the barn.
The struggles of KONOSUBA's heroes actually make many segments of this show very relatable. Most of us haven't been swallowed by giant frogs or had to negotiate with angry dullahans, but we've certainly dealt with thankless jobs or unfriendly neighbors.
>>142851482
This. Megumin is not bad but she's just really overated.
>>142850289
NGNL was textbook escapist power fantasy isekai and /a/ fucking adored it before it became MAL's darling and hipster contrarianism kicked in.
>>142851746
Too bad in the novels Kazuma's high luck stat eventually wins out and he becomes permanently well-off.
Hell, even in the fucking anime they score a fucking rent-free residence in a fucking mansion. How often does that happen in the real world? Fuck the housing market.
>>142851844
Just find and squat in some haunted mansion.
>>142851427
forgot your mlp and fedora.
Doesn't take itself seriously
A comedy anime that's actually funny sometimes
Fun characters
>>142850356
>Re: Zero
>deep
Only in the eyes of mental midgets like yourself
>>142851531
Boobplate.
>>142851796
I'd argue it depends on how charismatic the isekai mc is.
Compare Sora to Subaru or Kirito and tell me which one would you rather follow.
Also just watched the first episode of Konosuba and it was... really fucking good.
>>142852167
Kazuma is pretty well balanced MC.
He isn't a whiteknight that allow himself to be step upon by woman. But he also doesn't unnecessarily or cruelly bully girls just for the sake of it.
>>142852226
I like that the girls have banter with him as well. They actually feel like they are friends with eachother.
KonoSuba is great for one primary reason.
It's essentially a tabletop adventure with a group of retarded friends and depending on your viewpoint it's either gone horrifically wrong or amazingly right.
You have the super powerful mage that does explosion magic and only explosion magic, despite not having the mana pool to sustain it.
You have the OP god-roll stat goddess that has low INT and therefore puts all of their points into party tricks.
You have the "NO DEX ALL CON/VIT/STR COME AT ME BRO" masochist tank.
And then you have the MC that plays the roll of the sarcastic as fuck dickass thief that hardcarries everyone.
It's justfun
>>142850947
She's qt as fuck and her boundless enthusiasm for explosions is endearing and contagious.
You sound like you're just a nofunallowed faggot with a stick up your ass.
>>142852282
Yeah, I like that the girls didn't try to pull any "I am a gurlll you should be more gentle with me". Guess the author being a woman have that affect, she doesn't baby her character like some whiteknighting author do.
Except that one time where Aqua pretend to cry.
>>142851686
That's completely normal for /a/ - you guys love to shit on everything remotely popular.
>>142852297
>It's essentially a tabletop adventure with a group of retarded friends
I somehow never thought of it like that.
Oh my God, this is suddenly fucking awesome!
>>142852297
Pretty much /thread, came to post this.
>>142850289
>Re:Zero
meme series of 2016
>>142850289
It was fun
>>142850474
>huge
from leddit army though
>>142851334
That doesn't go in the name field you mung bean.
>>142850289
My favorite scene was the bathtub dream.
Whew that was the best thing all season
>>142852847
what if he put sage in all fields?
have you thought about that?
>>142850289
Grimgar didn't know what it what it wanted to be. SOL? Action Fantasy? Drama? Romance? All that character-driven plot is gonna tire itself out before they can reach a finale.
Re:Zero is for the most part alright. But we're really taking a snail's pace, not that that's bad but we just finally finished the prologue 11 episodes in.
KonoSuba does know what it wants to be from the start and succeeds in it. A light hearted comedy with a cast so pathetic it's fun.
>>142850289
Comfy
not edgy
Explosion loli
actually funny
Easy to watch and digest
Based MC
etc.
It's AOTS
>>142852954
>bath scene
>those saggy tits everywhere
Oh lawd.
How Deen manages magic like Konosuba with such a low budget is a miracle.
>>142851639
They are actually fit incredibly well for their jobs. They just fit it to well. Like they are literally over specialized in one area.
>>142850289
I enjoyed KonoSuba, Re:Zero and Grimgar alike. Hell, I even enjoy Sword Art Online.
Come at me scrublords. Go ahead and tell me I'm not living my life correctly. I'm having fun and there's nothing you can do to stop me.
>>142850289
Anything that the vocal autists here perceive as 'taking itself seriously' will be 'shit on.' As in, the autists will samefag every thread chimping out about it.
>>142853223
>fun
You're living your life correctly. Keep at it.
>>142850538
This
>>142850550
And this, I still think the first episode was fucking great
>>142851273
Re:Zero is just a sadistic author who wants the audience to suffer more than anythinghe wrote an alternate universe where the MC runs off and gets married and has adorable kids with his adorable waifu who becomes a vegetable in the Main Universe
>>142853071
It truly is
We can only hope the budget will be even better for te next season
>>142852297
Good characters, that's number one.
>>142850404
That's just what it seems to you in the relative safety of your general threads.
>>142850289
Because it's a fantastic series, one of those few shows where ALL characters are fun and likeable. I can't even remember the last time I had such genuine fun, maybe with Gata H Kei or something, but it was definitely years ago.
And I thought this was going to be another boring, generic, trapped in and rpg world series, had it on the backlog for so long, man how wrong I was.
>>142853462
I've refrained from posting about Re: Zero because I'm not watching it anymore, but I'd be a lot more receptive to that if I liked Subaru. He's one of the most annoying main characters in recent memory and everything about him feels like a contradiction. He's a reclusive NEET but is actually super strong and fit, he'll do something courageous one moment and then immediately pussy out the next, he'll try to do something clever and then show how fucking retarded he is as a follow-up. And all the while he talks in bad writing. It's all so obnoxious and meta and it doesn't sound like anything a person would ever say.
>>142853922
That's kind of the point. The author absolutely hates self-insert characters, so he made the protagonist and annoying, stupid, cowardly shit. Apparently he improves later on in the series.
I am actually a little worried about season 2.
It was very obvious that the publisher didn't expect Konosuba to be such a massive success so they didn't give the studio much time and money to work with, but that also meant the studio could work without the publisher and other sponsors breathing down their necks so much.
Compare that to Grimgar. I suspect that series was such a mess most likely due to the publisher and the sponsors making all sorts of demands for this and that. The most obvious examples are those 2~3 minutes long music videos that had no dialogues and supposedly showed their daily lives. That must have happened at the demand of a record company.
Now that Konosuba is popular, the publisher would watch what the studio is doing and have opinions about everything, and many companies would be eager to sponsor the project in hopes of squeezing in some sort of product placement into it.
>>142853223I also do.
>>142853966
That's fine, but he doesn't stick to that theme, or it didn't come across in the anime because at least in three episodes, Subaru was still an annoying "meta" hero. You can have a weak shitty character like that and make it compelling, but he has to actually be weak and shitty. Subaru still fights and tries to do hero things, he just does it inconsistently which makes him less believable. Also if the intention was to make it dark and edgy, he should've gotten disillusioned immediately, like at the first death. Having that stick around for so long was like running a gag into the ground that wasn't funny the first time.
Because it was actually funny while doing a generic setting.
If you have really likable characters you'll go far.
>>142852297
This is a legitimately superb explanation. I never thought of it like this, and I already loved it.
Thanks!
>>142852297
5 star post, nigger
>>142854231
The point is that even though Subaru is weak and shitty, he tries. He messes up all the time due to his own stupidity, but he keeps trying.
>>142850289
Because the author doesn't do world building by writing "incidentally, yadda yadda yadda, magic sure is convenient isn't it!".
![[HorribleSubs] Kono Subarashii Sekai ni Shukufuku wo! - 01 [1080p].mkv_snapshot_19.40.gif](https://i.imgur.com/LmjmIl1.gif "[HorribleSubs] Kono Subarashii Sekai ni Shukufuku wo! - 01 [1080p].mkv snapshot 19.40")
Anime when?
>>142851522
>the same in every episode
You forgot about the haunted mansion episode
>>142850289
The anime is pretty good, the fanbase is reddit-tier.
When is OVA?
>>142850289
It's actually good.
>>142852167
>Kirito
>Isekai
Yea no.
Konasuba was trash. It only got good from that haunted mansion episode to the end. It was a chore to push through those previous episodes. It was only worth watching for megumin.
DanMachi > KonoSuba > NGNL
Can we at least agree on this?
>>142856710
Your bait is too obvious.
>>142856710
danmachi was trash.
>>142855901
I just watched the first episode last night and the "up, work, party, puke, bed" loop was a pretty great gag.
>>142850289
Was there any censorship in the tv broadcast? If there wasn't I might start this now without waiting for Blus
>>142854231
That's his strength though. He's shit but has the will to try and make a difference no matter what.Do you think a witch would choose someone who gives up so easily? There would be literally no point in giving someone who breaks so easily return by death if he's just going to break after a few deaths.
Also, wait until Arc 3. If you're pissed at his attitude, you'll love where it gets him.
Back to Konosuba, Konosuba's a nice comedy with good designs and a well rounded cast of characters. Not much else to say aside from enjoy the ride if you like fantasy comedy with harem elements (it's only a psuedo harem until Eris + Yunyun makes it 3+ girls who are romantically interested).
>>142856751
Danmachi was endearing. A good wholesome adventure.
Syr worst girl.
My primary complaint about Konosuba is that it's a harem. Harem romance shenanigans always suck but luckily they mostly avoid them in this series. Would be better if they all stayed strictly friends and had another male involved in the main cast though.
>>142857461
Dust needs to quit his shitty party already and join Kazuma's harem.
>>142857532
But Dust is already taken.
>>142857557
His boipussy virginity maybe.
>>142857461
The show is supposed to be a psuedo harem though. It's one of it's appeals; mainly girl cast, one guy, but no rom-com bullshit or drama. Though it will become a real harem later on, it's not the bullshit love at first sight shit.
For all /a/ complains about how all "reincarnated/transported" stories are the same, the ones that actually get animated mostly tend to subvert the genre in some way.
>Overlord - the MC is a spooky skellington
>Grimgar - the protagonists are weak as shit and barely manage to survive
>Konosuba - a parody about screwing screwing around in the starting town forever
>GATE - modern military imperialist fetishism
>Re:Zero - the protagonist has no special powers besides being made to relive the suffering over and over
The real trash like Mushoku Tensei and Shield Hero aren't being animated.
>>142858685
DanMachi got animated and that thing is shit on shit.
>>142851182
There are so many ways I would lovingly abuse her, physically and mentally.
>>142858736
Danmachi is not a transportation/reincarnation story.
>>142858768
Yea, it skips the neet getting transported to the video game world and starts directly with the Gary Stu cheating his way to everyone's admiration.
>>142858800
Which is fine because Bell isn't a bloody otaku hikkiNEET.
>>142858685
More like Mushoku basically created the genre, or rather influenced it so much that many of the narou novels try to copy/paste some of it's aspects but fail miserably.
>>142857532
He will end with Yunyun at this point, unless Vanir get a harem made by Aqua, Wiz and Yunyun
>>142859404
Well when the progenitor has so many trashy elements in it it's no wonder that all the imitators are also trash when they imitate the trash aspects without any of the redeeming parts.
>>142853922
>He's a reclusive NEET but is actually super strong and fit
Those aren't mutually exclusive.
>>142853462
Re:Zero is just a time loop story mixed with a fantasy world setting. While I really like it, the threads are terrible circlejerks that pretend it's heading through uncharted territory. It's interesting to see how the plot is always changing but the suffering is one of the more generic aspects, and people trip over themselves to justify things its faults.
>>142859516
Yunyun and Dust have also both temporarily joined Kazuma's party before. They need to become permanent additions to the team.
Wiz and Vanir need not apply because they're too overpowered.
>>142851131
>work
>without thinking too much
Only workfags ever want to stop thinking
I enjoyed the MC not being a dense faggot for once.
>>142850289
Because Deen finally finds a way
>>142851181
Dont you mean "Quality" fan service
>>142851273
>Missing out on the best Quality waifus of the seasons
I'm really hoping that Deen doesn't fuck up the seccond season. Because its after the mobile destroyer arc where we start seeing a lot of character development and imho where the light novel novel becomes good
>>142857461
>and had another male involved in the main cast though.
Fucking this. Konosuba could had been a 10/10 for me if it just had a another male in the party. Not saying the girls were bad or anything.
>>142856970
There's no difference between the broadcast version vs the BD releases.
>>142850669
"Yes yes, I'm Kazuma."
>>142850527
haven't we decided his name is Sufferu
>>142861088
Pubic tattoos are the best.Shame it isn't a uterus
>>142860052
where has thinking ever got you, fám
>>142860695
second season?
>>142860892
I love the lines delivered under another characters dialogue like Megumin asking for the eyepatch to be released gently.
But I don't like some of the major changes they made, Mitsurugi's hair, cave lich, why did they remove the demon king's protection on the dullahan and the fact that Darkness made a crack on his armor once his head was stolen?
>>142861088
Megumin is too young.
Aqua is a slut.
Darkness is perfect
>Tallest
>Biggest boobs
>Strong, slightly muscular core
>Shy and uncomfortable, probably not used to wearing slutty outfits
If only she were less masochistic and submissive. Strong knight waifus who are also prudish are top tier.
>>142861293
What they cancelled it? im pretty sure there was an announcment at episode 10 or 12
>>142850495
>Saito not generic nice guy.
>>142861561
While I respect your taste those traits I would never change, it makes her even more delicious as the bath scene proved to me.
>>142861293
It's been greenlit while the anime was airing
>>142861561
>Megumin is too young.
Impossible.
>>142861419
As a certain manga pointed out most writers get exhausted by anime production by the end of season 1 because the adaptation wasn't 'faithful enough' to the text or wasn't 'good enough as a show by itself'.
I err on the side of letting the anime staff make a good show. In the end the LN is still there so you can have your 'canon' story, let the anime do its own thing.
This isn't even a critique of what would be a 'better' adaptation. They have a show to make, if they just do it word for word its a shitty show, if they do it completely different then the fans won't have it.
Forgive shit like this, don't read the LN first if you can, it just sets up expectations. In my experience the anime is always better if you see it before the LN.
>>142850473
Indeed he does.
>>142850402
>horrible people
in what way?
>>142862001
What does the underlined text even mean? I don't speak Jawapakoreanese.
>>142850289
>semen demons
>chunni shit
>very little plot, or even better no plot at all
/a/ loves everything that include these three things.
>>142862001
I thought light novel text runs vertically?
>>142861088
Delete this.
>>142862001
>>142862127
That doesn't even make sense: Asian text is read vertically not horizontally.
It's like highlighting the first letter of each line in a paragraph.
>>142850289
>Is it possible to play the premise of being summoned into a fantasy world straight without /a/ shitting all over it?
Log Horizon was much more well received than the average isekai series, though that might be due to the fact that it came early.
>>142862375
That's the point, it's a hidden message. Read from right to left.
>>142850829
hornrie
>>142852297
this is exactly how i describe it to people to get them to watch it
>>142862492
Can't read moon. Spoiler for the pleb?
>>142862492
Had a good chuckle.
Mattaku indeed.
>>142850289
but people enjoyed R:zero and Grimgar as well. i've happily discussed both while they were/are airing.
You might just be more offended by the criticism of those show's serious take on the fantasy world, while Konosuba's is comfy/comedic so the criticism that "nothing happens" or "it's not funny" probably doesn't trigger the fans as much.
>>142862009
But the changes I listed makes becomes a problem for the story further down the line.
Mitsurugi is Japanese and all known cheat users have dark hair and dark eyes.
The cave later becomes Vanir's cave and gives reason to why Kazuma needs to go down there.
As for the demon king's protection, it explains why Aqua didn't can't just one hit the Dullahan, shows Darkness's strength and explains why Aqua could kill the seemingly unkillable dullahan.
>>142862074
>kazuma gets arrested
>"well kazuma it was nice knowing you but I must return to my own planet now"
>>142862074
The LNs go into this way more.
>>142862214
This post is true
Recently in some UQ Holder thread some fags main problem with UQ Holder was that Eva wasn't a loli anymore, completely ignoring the plot point where Eva ages herself up because she's acting as a mother to the other immortals
/a/ is always more concerned with cute girls than with the plot
>>142863082
They can just say that Mitsurugi dyed his hair because he's a tryhard who thought it looked cool.
>>142863221
Or she aged herself up to match Negi.
>>142852462
>implying
Usually while a show is airing it has enough hype to keep out the haters, it's only afterwards the autist patrol begins taking potshots and no one cares
>>142863082
The lack of explanation on the protection thing made the battle flow strangely, why didn't Aqua just spam Turn Undead if it's visibly doing damage?
Why switch to flood at all if Turn Undead could kill him?
>>142851482
It seems like at this point half of reddit is comprised of 4channers "ironically" posting there, with the other half being actual redditors and tumblrites bumbling around trying to get into moderator positions so they can censor opinions they don't like
>>142851531
SWORD CURVE! Fucking japanese obscession with katana.
>>142863221
Character dynamics are pretty important for making a series entertaining. UQ Eva is almost an entirely different character in how she acts and only gives brief glimpses of the character everyone liked her for in Negima. Maybe there are legitimate plot reasons for it, but it still doesn't feel like she's Eva anymore because Ken hasn't properly retained/conveyed her core personality.
It doesn't help that she has been dressing like a trashy whore in the most recent chapters either. Thank god for Negi sneezing.
>>142863397
That too, in any case there's more of a story-reason there than "KEN JUST WANTED TO RUIN YOUR LOLI VAMPIRE WAIFU XD"
>>142863659
Negi getting stolen by the MotB and Eva having to run UQ holder are probably good reasons for her to be less of a hands-on master who likes toying with her student
In any case if this story was about Eva circa Dark Eva era her personality would also be completely different, since she was the edgy evil vampire then
The point is probably demonstrating that immortals can be many things in their long lives, since the theme explores immortality.
>>142862919What does it say?
>>142863925まったく小学生は最高だぜ
>>142864113
Nice.
I didn't like the saggy titties in konosuba
>>142864113
What does that mean in English?
/a/ doesn't need to shit all over "transported into an MMORPG" shows when they are perfectly capable of being shit without outside help.
>>142864367
The pleasure of being cummed inside.
It even does harems right. The worst thing about harems is how all the girls magically fall in love with MC at first sight for no reason. But in Konosuba nobody gives a shit about MC at first sight. They actually spend a long ass time together before they become romantically interested in him, and even then it's not universal, with some girls clearly liking him more than others.
And you know, it kinda makes sense. He's the only guy they hang around with for long periods of time, and he does gain more attractive traits as time goes on (e.g., money). It's like the author actually understands women (because she's a woman).
>>142852462
>popular
>good-no
>shit-probably
>>142862973
I dont enjoy re:zero
>>142862013
>those fingers
possibly my favorite part of the entire damn anime
>>142852815
>meme series of 2016
>not Mayoiga
>>142865543
>because she's a woman
Still laughing at Hope Chapman's misogyny accusations.
>>142866107
Please don't be transphobic of Jake Chapman you shitlord. His words are beautiful and going against him outs you as part of the problem!
>>142850289
It's just a bad show, but because it makes fun of itself from time to time, fans of the show feel like they can claim to be watching it ironically.
>>142866107
>Hope Chapman
It's Jacob Hope Chapman now.
>>142866107
I've never read ANN reviews before, and I never will again.
I felt my brain imploding just reading the distorted sesquipedalian bullshit logic they're forced to write to churn out their demographically tailored content they present as their "unique" opinion in exchange for advertising dollars. I suspect these retards don't even know what half the utter bollocks they're regurgitating even mean.
>>142864367
Exact translation is "It is the best for elementary school students at all"
I'm gonna take a wild guess and say it means that the she is at best for elementary school students.
>>142864367
Ah, elementary schoolers are the best. Some nip meme.
>>142851365
Darkness is sometimes pretty good, the main problem is that a lot of her jokes are way too long with no actual punchline (IE, every masochistic rant), and her archetype and related gags have been done plenty of times before. Even Aqua and Megumin would seem like bland archetypes if it was the 5th time we'd seen them.
She's a noticeable weak link in the cast but she still has some moments and her seiyuu in the anime did an impressive job of selling her character.
>>142850289
>Is it possible to play the premise of being summoned into a fantasy world straight without /a/ shitting all over it?
yes, when its not insipid self-insert garbage
>>142863531
Slightly curved swords are not a japanese specialty. Look it up.
>>142868233
>you see those warriors from Hammerfell?
It really pisses me off how Mushoku Tensei's light novel is selling so mediocrely.
Regardless of whether you think it's shit or not I think most people would agree it's still miles better than Arifureta and Death March which are selling like hot cakes despite being shining examples of everything wrong with the genre.
And don't even get me started on Kumo Desu ga.
So what's the doujin count so far?
>>142867476
Darkness is still great, by that logic Megumin and Kazuma should be bland too as we've seen the archetype tons of times, but we both know they are great. It's because the series is good and their scenes are fantastic.
The most unique character is definitely Aqua, it's obvious that Natsume spent the most time on her and probably has some self-insert moments or learnt experiences from her social life.
The fem MC of this series is a bully, capricius, short-tempered, useless, dumb, crybaby, a drunkard thinks too much of herself for what she really is and assaults your pocket with no remorse and STILL you just know she has the heart in the right place.
She could probably carry the show on her own but the rest of the cast are not even far behind because the jokes work. This is truly a good series and it's the reason why >>142866107 should kys asap.
>>142869209
Translated?
Four so far I think
>>142869440
Kazuma is more refreshing than most sarcastic tsukkomi MC because he's actually a scumbag outside of his dialogue too.
Most authors use the shittalking as a thin veneer over your typical nice guy MC who will roll over and rescue any damsel in distress as soon as he sees one but Kazuma is actually selfish to a degree.
>>142869209
not enough.
>>142869116
I don't believe you when you say there is shit worse than Mushoku Tensei.
Wait I take that back. I remember Gunota now.
>>142870030
MT has Twilight syndrome.
Everyone says it's the worst thing they've ever read but fail to realize that they only read it in the first place because it's so damn popular in the first place and it has a million knockoffs that are even worse.
>>142869209
>look up on sadpanda
>mostly Aqua doujins
Fucking WHY
>>142869440
The closest character to Megumin I can think of is Black Mage from 8bit Theater, and he was an edgy psychopath rather than a cute girl. The chuuni is a minor character trait at most.
Kazuma cuts it close but seems to err on the side of being decent, largely through his interactions with Aqua. There are certainly times where I wasn't pleased with his writing either.
Are there any other good isekai series out there?
I've already read through most of the Konosuba fan fiction andMushoku Tensei
>>142870247
Nips have excellent taste
>>142870247
Because she is the sexiest
>>142870290
>>142870247
>most 3dpd girl is the most popular
Shameful.
>>142870255
>The closest character to Megumin I can think of is Black Mage from 8bit Theater
Linda Inverse
>>142870344
Aaaaand I just fucked that up.
Lina, I mean. Lina.
>>142869742
Kazuma is far from selfish, he's just a lazy NEET. He died to save a stranger, took the goddess because he felt morally right in doing so, and tolerates the rest of the cast at first only because he doesn't have the coldheartedness to desert them outright. He's arguably the least selfish in the group.
He's decent largely because he has the backbone to hold up his side of the banter, and typically is pretty down-to-earth in his methods.
>>142870255
>The closest character to Megumin I can think of is Black Mage from 8bit Theater,
OUT
I liked Grimgar much more than Konosuba or Re:Zero (so far). I loved the slow pace, but it seemed like a lot of fans of the LN were complaining about that.
>>142870354
Yeah
>>142870395
>>142870375
>>142870344
Lina is nothing like Megumin aside from their penchant of blowing shit up.
She's Kazuma and Aqua rolled into one.
Eris a best.
Aqua can go die in a ditch.
>>142850289
Konosuba actually featured real alcohol instead of the stupid soda shit they do in other anime.
Kazuma actually hits the bar every night and enjoys time with succubus girls without Aqua and the rest knowing about it.
The succubus girls even call Kazuma Young Master or Boss.
>>142871286
He never once actually enjoyed the succabus girls and is still a virgin.
>>142870271
Muv Luv Alternative
>>142851544
Is he? just ask his imouto
>>142871581
Vanir pls go, Kazuma isn't a lolicon.
>>142871286
Well...he tried to enjoy time with a succubus. Aqua cock-blocked him.
>>142866050
Mayoiga went too hard into being ironic that it ended up being an actual 3/10 that will be forgotten like Star Driver.
>"She's a LICH, not your waifu!"
>>142871844
He do it late, he rent a room so nobody know or stop him, he is so familiar at the point he even drink with the succubus and help them
>>142872660
Yes, she is a lich...she deserves to be bullied for it.
>>142872660
Then cast sacred turn undead on her, baka!
they fucked up the manga so bad with all the future stuff. The plot isn't even moving forward anymore
konosuba is shit, but it aired in a season filled with even worse shit.
>>142872885
Do it. You know you wanna.
>>142851544
That's like saying Araragi isn't a lolicon because he bought porn of Gaen, Kaiki, and Episode.
From what vol of the manga should I pick up if i've already seen the anime? Really enjoying this one, would love to continue with it.
>>142874296
Just wait for S2 like the rest of us secondaries.
>>142870318
I just like to see 2 doujins of pic related.
>>142869116
I think it's actually doing fine considering where they are right now in the LN version. There's still a lot to go.
I also doubt those sales in total can be called mediocre when MT doesn't have an anime adaption and the the WN is almost exactly the same as LN which means you can just read the whole story at narou.
>>142872660
And it turn out Aqua actually quite fond of Wiz.
Tsundere Goddess.
>>142874296
start from beginning, get content and character development that anime left out.
>>142874296
>>142876325
Read the book nigger.
>>142870156
I think you're underestimating how many people like it on /a/ and consider it the best LN/WN ever.
>>142870156
I hate it because Rudi is creepy as fuck motherfucker.
Heck, why are most shitty Isekai MC are also such a shithead? That necromancer manga, Re:Monster, even Ainz is rather an ass.
>>142850289
i like konosuba. re:zero's better by far. re:zero is a loner highschooler kid shredding a death metal solo he wrote on his guitar, and konosuba is.. not. konosuba is much more soulless than re:zero. it has no heart because it can rely on saying its making fun of its own genre. its as if the kid said he was just ironically playing death metal in case people dont like it
>>142876563
You're a faggot and underage.
I don't know where you're from but please go back.
>>142876042
>vore
Fuck off.
>>142876513
I almost dropped it because he was really creepy at the beginning.After Eris left him and he finished school, though, he grew up and became a pretty likable character.
I just finished it a few weeks ago and enjoyed it. I haven't really been into that genre, but I liked the character development and the fact that Rudi wasn't the most OP person in the story, unlike Tensei Shitara Slime Datta Ken.
>tfw cant find 1440x2560 wallpaper of megumin for my phone
>>142850356
Kill yourself.
>>142850289
>konoshitba
>beloved
kek, no
>>142877640
you watch gate yet?
>>142877640
>he didn't like the mansion
That was the best episodeif you pretend the first half doesn't exist since they botched Wiz's introduction so hard.
>>142877925
Reading comprehension bro.
Well executed comedy.
The setting is tangetial, not the true selling point of the work.
>>142877898
Nope, but keep the suggestions coming, I will check stuff out...
>>142877925
You can't possibly defend Re:Zero mansion and how things progress.
>>142877974
Oh I thought this was a konosuba thread so I didn't read your shitpost too carefully. My bad.
You just looking for more comedies?
>>142850356
this
>>142850289
Aqua butt.
>>142878060
>keep the suggestions coming
REC THREAD! MMMMOOOOOOODDDDDSSSSSS!!
>>142878071
You only read every 10th word or something?
>>142878091
why do you have to be like
>>142878071
Not even that guy. Just pointing out that you are an illiterate moron.
>>142854046
Even if they do shit on the next season, we still have the actual source material to back up the anime. Since volumes 3 and 4 are arguably better than the first 2 volumes, there's a good chance the damage won't be too bad.
>>142855926
After the Mushoku Tensei and Tate no Yuusha anime.
>>142878751
>volume 3
>darkness volume
>arguably better
You're a funny guy.
It didn't last long enough to turn to shit
>>142869116
I like Death March.
>>142872660
The Vanir spinoff cemented her position as my favorite. I'm such a sucker for girls with comedic suffering moe. Strangely Mikuru from SHnY is my least favorite character though.
>>142852297
You forget dickass thief's amazing luck to roll natural 20s every time.
>>142879153
Gotta counteract all those natty 1s Aqua keeps throwing.
>>142878895
>Implying Darkness isn't best girl
Stay delusional you lolicon.
>>142879153
>"STEAL!"
>panties
Okay then.
>>142879152
The Vanir spinoff is great.
I wish we got more Aqua-Wiz shenanigan. Those two are surprisingly a good duo.
![[camera pans upwards as faint 'he- heeeeeeeeeeeee--!!!' is shouted].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/H5lQQvP.jpg "[camera pans upwards as faint 'he- heeeeeeeeeeeee !!!' is shouted]")
>>142879196
that's arguably the best target to steal, since psychological impact.
>>142879195
>best
At what? Putting Kazuma in debt? Getting Kazuma killed? Destroying Kazuma's most precious treasure? Leading Kazuma on and then not putting out?I'd have to hand this last one to Megumin actually.
Out of everyone in the party, Darkness is the absolute worst. Even Aqua can be helpful on occasion, but Darkness causes nothing but trouble.
>>142879195
All of her arcs revolve around her doing stupid shit without telling anybody and forcing everyone else to clean up her mess
I mean at least Aqua will admit she needs help, Darkness will try to do it herself and suddenly she's married to a fat old man
>>142850289
It's a light hearted show that nails it's comedy early and often. It starts on a premise we all know and a lot of you hate and it makes fun of it while still taking itself just serious enough to be immersive. Then it throws all of the best girls at you but makes them quirky to keep it from being a generic harem show. Plus the light novels are available so all of us with more time/care more for this kind of thing can lord our knowledge of it over our friends who just think it's a funny cartoon.
>>142850289
desu I think Aqua carried the whole series just by existing
She's cute, and she's hopeless. She's hopelessly cute!
>>142879195
Yes. You are correct
>>142876298
That's because the others are busy doing their own stuff and Aqua has no one else she can bother. Besides, Wiz spoils Aqua, she keeps bringing out tea and tidbits even though she can't afford proper meals.
>>142850289
Because I like the relationships the characters have with each other and the MC is less of a faggot than other transported to another world stories
>>142879513
Not like she need a meal anyway.
>>142850356
Wow the amount of buzzwords you are using unironically is off the charts...
When is darkness just gonna put out already
Or anyone
>>142879535
I still don't see how it's possible for a lich to maintain her milkbags with only breadcrumbs and sugar water. Magic can only do so much.
>>142879584
Darkness was DTF until Kazuma made fun of her abs in the last volume.
>>142879647
I know, sluttiest kuno
>>142866266
>>142866176
I thought you were joking and now I wish I hadn't checked.
>>142879629
Byakuren doesn't deserve to be bullied like that
>>142879647
Kazuma made fun of her abs because she was trying to go for the NTR route where she gets fucked by a smelly fat old man after she and Kazuma bonded. Kazuma being the genre-savvy perv that he is knew the score and shot her down like a pro in the most tasteful way possible to thwart her plans.
>>142879629
Liches do not have to eat actually as far as I am aware. She could just be draining a small amount of life whenever she gives people change or bumps into them on the street.
>>142879729
Liches don't have to eat since they're undead but if she wants to maintain her appearance she should so she doesn't end up a hungry skeleton.
>>142851531Not enough legs.
>>142852297
My god. This is literally me D&D group(I'm the one who carries the team). Add in a DM who tries WAY to hard to come up with a gripping story(Like our Dullahan), only for it to get wasted on my group.
>>142879882
If Omar Mateen really wanted to kill gays he would have waited for your post, as that was literally the gayest thing I ever read.
>>142852297
and the DM railroads you into an enormous debt plus quests too difficult for your level to try and get you to move out of the starter town already, but the party doesn't give a shit and still picked up the "kill slimes" quests when available.
>>142872660
Didn't know liches could be so soft
>>142879968
I think she knows Alter Self. I reckon she'd be pretty ugly if her disguise ever drops.
>>142879629
Vanir's semen.
>>142879986
She's also just recently lichified, maybe she just hasn't aged enough to rot yet.
>>142862001
Why is the text mirrored?
>>142880060
Oh yeah, I forgot that you don't actually have to be a skeleton to become a lich. Just powerful enough.
Besides, nips are infamous for creating waifu versions of elder unspeakable horrors.
>>142880079
it's not.
>>142880084
You need to create a phylactery to become a lich. That's the requirement.
>>142880570
>phylactery
>>142851254
>this manga was fucking axed
It will never not hurt.
>>142862127
>>142862315
>>142862375
That's the joke, the author hid "elementary school kids are the best" in the text. It's a Jap meme.
>>142880682
Truly, the doujin that had to be made, even if that's stupidly impractical.
>>142880819
Sort of like hiding "the game" in the first letter of every line on /b/.
>its another isekai stories are uncreative! episode
I wonder how you retards would react if someone pointed out the similarities in shit like romances and vigilante cop stories.
Please, wait till we get this isekai adaptation.
>>142880923
Is it actually any good?
>>142880856
>I wonder how you retards would react if someone pointed out the similarities in shit like romances and vigilante cop stories.
Woah, so you're telling me that pulp fiction and B-movie genres are uncreative and derivative? Who would've thought?Still not as bad as isekai. At least the former two have actually produced award-winning stories. Can't exactly say the same about isekai.
>>142880923
>>142881029
God, the threads for Youjo Senki will be such a shitshow.
The show's going to attract trolls, /pol/lacks and fedora tippers from miles around.
>>142880923
How much of that is translated so far?
>>142881029
If you find the idea of rejecting prayers and believe in the theme of advancing and adapting through only human effort and not God's help to be compelling.
>>142850356
I know >21 hours ago
but
>anime takes overused plot element that becomes boring due to its lack of promise being utilized
>takes itself seriously and actually utilizes it with good writing and character development rather than making it a romcom or generic moe anime
>its trying to be edgy
your shitty outlook is literally the reason that good anime have been on the decline for years and is slowly but noticably going down the drain. There was a point where there were multiple gems of the seasons, and nowadays im lucky to spot three, because what could otherwise be an interesting show gets filled with easy-to-make SOL moeshit with generic writing. Not to say I don't enjoy the genre occasionally, but it's oversaturating the market at this point and it's bringing down the overall writing levels of everything with it.
>>142881102
History lessons will be real entertaining as fuck.
>>142881122
I don't really care about what they are trying to convey in an isekai LN. Are characters and plot any good?
>>142881102
People will start calling notStalin a hero.
>>142881173
The characters are good, from soldiers that fear Tanya, to those who follow her orders, to the people who believe faith is the only salvation. It is rather interesting with some parallels with WW2 and as long as you don't mind the VERY complicated schematics and infodumps, you'll find the dialogue and monologues that will put Oregairu to shame.
>>142881272
>Russian name
>German uniform
This triggers my autism.
>>142881313
This is>>142881144
notGermany. I don't know.
>>142881313
Better than those isekai series that have characters with Russian, Gaelic, Germanic, Anglo-Saxon, and Latin names all in a single city, sometimes in the same fucking family.
And don't even get me started on the especially lazy authors who give their characters Japanese first names and western surnames.
>>142881141
You realize that the foreign interests have nothing to do with the new anime that is coming, it's all the nipps, what you buy and like only matters to you and not the industry unless you're a consumer in Japan. Sol anime does have some great plotlines and character development, some of them have great writing too, others have shit like with everything else.
>>142881517
I am referring to his mindset as a whole, not his personal impact on the industry as a person.
>>142881102
Is it a japan dindunuffin circlejerk show? If so it deserve to be shat upon.
>>142881612
It's a fantasy Germany dindu nuffin' show.
>>142881649
They've already shat on notStalin>>142881229
>>142850553
>it's ironic because I said so!
In all of the recent isekai threads, I have yet to see Twelve Kingdoms mentioned once.
Is it because of how old it is? Maybe it's due to how the fact that Yoko is from Japan is almost never brought up outside of the first few episodes when she's sucked into the Twelve Kingdoms world.
Either way, more people need to know about it.
>>142850289
I'm not /a/, but the reasons I really loved Konosuba are
>great source material
While other isekais are all about "the system is shit/unfair and you need a cheat to actually progress", Konosuba just laugh at their faces for this.
Konosuba goes all like "Kazuma picked the Cheaty-est cheat, but that ends up being the Shittiest Cheat" and instead of complaining and crying, he just get his shit together and decides to work his way through like a normal person, while carrying that useless baggage.
>great direction and voice acting
Japan has a tendency to fuck up even good sources. It wasn't the case with Konosuba.
Sure, its a comedy and you don't actually to focus on the plot and can just play it off as a joke, but still.
Also the Voice Acting was amazing, and I swear there had times that you could feel that even the VAs themselves were having fun.
>great MC
Kazuma isn't your overly good good guy or lawful good good guy, he's just your normal guy. Not too dumb, not too smart, doesn't take shit home and has real and good interactions with the other characters and the girls, all while lightly being painted as a harem (and that's hard).
Konosuba isn't all over the place trying to pick more what can hold like a normal average show, and by being a comedy, it also doesn't need to focus deeply into a character or the plot to progress.
It's just all about fun. From the OP to the ED.
I still don't get Konosuba's popularity. I thought the show good by not have-a-fucking-thread-everyday good. I clearly must have shit taste because most of /a/ seems to love Konosuba.
>>142881976
It isn't mentioned for the same reason Zero no Tsukaima isn't.
It's old and it isn't part of the recent isekai boom on Narou.
>>142882076
I'd agree with that if it wasn't for the fact that Zero no Tsukaima has been used as a point of discussion in this thread.
I'm not suggesting we talk about Twelve Kingdoms like it was new, but as a point of reference of a show that did so many things right. The gradual growth of Yoko's character, the world building, and the fact that the world wasn't just a generic RPG setting that might as well have been ripped out of Dragon Quest.
I guess this is as close to a LN thread as there is, so might as well bring it up here.
What is it with LNs and in anything where "factions" are involved, for the factions to have the most boring descriptive names possible?
It seems quite common to have shit like
>the royal faction
>the noble faction
>the commoner faction
>the peace faction
>the war faction
>Kamisato Faction
>Kamijou Faction
It's boring as fuck and hardly names to inspire zeal among their members or encourage undecided persons to join them.
Try instead:
>Monarchists/Royalists/Loyalists/(Monarch's name)ites
>Noble Alliance/Coalition of Aristocrats against the Tyranny of the King
>Democrats/Republicans/The Voice of the People/Socialists/Bolsheviks/Revolutionaries/(Leader's name)ists
>Pacifists/Appeasers/Isolationists/Noninterventionists/Pussies
>Warmongers/Warhawks/Interventionists/Third Way
>Kamisatoans
>Kamijouites
>>142850289
I enjoy Re:Zero as much as Konosuba. Grimgar took itself too seriously for my taste.
>>142882195
>why do people use the most simple, most accurate names instead of my edgy chuuni suggestions?!
>>142882253
In what world is Royal Faction simpler to say than Royalist?
>>142882195
Has it ever occurred to you that this is the result of amateur translations using overly literal translations of terms rather than an inherent problem of the original text?
>>142854231
>he just does it inconsistently which makes him less believable.
I dont exactly disagree with you, but I disagree with this point.
I do think that doing things inconsistenly makes things more belieavable.
I don't like MCs that, doesn't matter how deep in the hole he is, in how deep shit he and the situation is, he can always keep the calm, cool and collected demeanor. Same goes for dumb MCs.
Except for Onii-sama. I love Onii-sama.
>>142882281
Japan.
>>142882195
Honestly this is a really stupid point to argue about.
>>142852847
Tripfags, they will never learn
>>142860052
*tips fedora*
>>142866710
I always read the season impressions because there's always some retarded shit. Like some idiot being triggered by The Muv-Luv spinoff and Joker Game because WW2 and some other idiot going on an anti-gun spiel because of C3-bu.
>>142881976
I like twelve kingdoms, but the plot development is insufferably slow. When it aired, it was 3-4 episodes of buildup for some minor shit, like the Kirin showing up to do something. 52 episodes, 80% of it is about some shit I never cared about.
You can argue that it's for the worldbuilding, but there are better ways of doing worldbuilding than making the viewer sit through boring shit. When the girl finally became king I was like, "fucking finally", and then she had to go help out another country.
>>142882253
I think Peace Faction sounds more chuuni than "pacifist" personally.
>>142882486
Addendum: the only character I cared about was Rakushun, because he's a loveable giant talking hamster.
>>142860598
She's kinda boring, although that still makes her about 100x better than most of the other characters.
>>142882349
It's just a symptom of the vast majority of the writing base having no writing skills and using the same vocabulary and the same writing patterns and the same idiosyncrasies because they have no creativity or style.
Mushoku Tensei which keeps getting held up as the pinnacle of narou has a problem with terminology too where literally everything has "god" in it for no reason.
http://www.theverge.com/2016/5/28/11801040/have-you-heard-about-litrpg
>Survival Quest is about what MMOs are actually about: grinding experience and gear. It's a novel about the pleasure of leveling up.
>Literally. The protagonist (egotistical and flavorless, as I assumed), is imprisoned in a full immersion VR capsule to serve out his prison sentence in an MMO copper mine. He feels pain fully from every rat bite, and the exhaustion of chipping away at mining nodes all day, but he also feels an addictive euphoria when he levels up his character's jewel-crafting skill.
>MMOs are typically sold to us as grand fantasy adventures, but they're really and truly about min-maxing. Sure, you can turn your brain off for a while and follow some quest lines. Maybe even read the NPC dialogue. But when it's time to get serious you pull open your stat sheet and start reading. Video games hide the "dice rolls" that used to be so obvious in tabletop RPGs, and it's the gamer's job to rediscover the math behind their success and improve upon it.
>Survival Quest is a terrible novel. Unlikable characters, casual sexism, and a plot completely bent to the main character's progression — far beyond the usual flex I allow in any Frodo-inspired fantasy novel. But it also includes stuff like this:
>Damage taken. Hit Points reduced by 5: 11 (weapon damage + strength) - 6 (armor). Total: 35 of 40.
>And this:
>Buff gained: Strength +1, Energy loss reduced by 50%. Duration - 12 hours.
>How could I not love it?
>I haven't finished AlterWorld yet, so I can't speak to how genre defining it is, but it does have the most important part:
>You've been hit by Messenger Gnoll! Damage sustained: 16 points. Life 44/60
>You've been hit by Messenger Gnoll! Damage sustained: 12 points. Life 32/60
>If I can extrapolate the whole LitRPG scene from Survival Quest, I'll say this: it's the most perfect depiction I've ever seen of what I truly want from an MMO, and what I'll never have.
>>142882719
shill
>>142882732
Honestly even Russian litRPG and Chinese xianxia and Korean crap manage to be more interesting than most Japanese isekai shit these days.
Could the isekai boom be killed if the narou website were to be killed?
>>142853223
YO THIS NIGGA GETS IT
>>142882527
>the only character I cared about was Rakushun
Are you me?
>>142882195
That's because japanese is a shit language.
>>142866107
You could find those on Hope's review about Active Raid too.
Saying shit that literally shows that Hope didn't even watched the show.
I think it was shit like
>and the typical cool mc steals the girl equipment just to show how cool he is
When actually another girl stols the equipment and he only got it back
Now we need a nice dose of their aniplex chill, with Kiznaiver's and Kabaneri's reviews too, to show how you should never read MAL's reviews. And I'm curious to see how they will backpedal Kabaneri.
Hope was always a shit though.
>>142882965
> Ass-terisk
>>142850356
suicide, ok?
>>142860750
you are looking for Rin's party.
>>142882965
Theron Martin seems the most decent out of that shithole.
>>142882783
>Russian litRPG
>it's a thing
First it was time travel and stalker cheeki-breeki novels and now this. Just fuck my literature up.
>>142883073
What would Dostoyevsky says?
Because it takes the actual realistic approach. It shows the world to be alive, it shows the monsters to be scary and it has an MC that has realistic reactions to things that happen to him instead of generic MC #2311456
>>142882708
>Mushoku Tensei which keeps getting held up as the pinnacle of narou has a problem with terminology too where literally everything has "god" in it for no reason.
A problem that gets transferred to all other Narou fiction because they keep ripping off MT.
Everybody's gotta be some kind of Sword Saint/King/Emperor/God now. Thanks MT, now "Saint" is just a generic powerlevel qualifier for fantasy writing instead of an actual indicator of holiness in some way shape or form.
>>142883632
>>142882708
I can't be assed to actually go check, but Japanese has several kanji/terms for different kind of gods don't they?
Couldn't the original Japanese text have had several different terms for various "god" things that got all flattened out to the same generic English term once MTL'd by ESL "translators"?
>>142883632
Its a japanese thing no? They call Musashi a sword saint or shit.
>>142883692
>>142883632
Well, it's a job class in FF, so there's that.
>>142882719
>Survival Quest is a terrible novel. Unlikable characters, casual sexism, and a plot completely bent to the main character's progression — far beyond the usual flex I allow in any Frodo-inspired fantasy novel. But it also includes stuff like this:
So it's SAO?
>>142881989
It's a small cult that discovered laughter for the first timeBecause the rest of Japan "humor" is shitthanks to Konosuba.
>>142883632
>>142882708
>You have the original actual Gods
>but also the people who earn the title X God because they reached the rank of God in X
>possibly in a school of swordsmanship that is also named X God
>and they speak languages also called X God but which have no given reason to be named God in the first place
>Plus all the shit called X King from Dragon King to King Dragon King
>and then mixing and matching with God >resulting in the Sword God King who learned a style of fighting called Sword God
>from a guy who earned the title Sword God
>to fight the Dragon God
>who needs to fight Demon God
>who used to be Dragon God
>but then shenanigans happened so half of him became Technique God
>who invented Sword God and North God and Water God
>the Water God doesn't fight with water
>and has no relation to water magic whose practitioners may also be ranked so high as to be named Water God
>but Sword God fights with sword
>by the way this is the style called Sword God, not the person called Sword God
>any way the Sword King who is called that because she is King ranked Sword God
>wants to keep up with her osananananajimi
>who never became a god
>but he does speak languages known as X God
>including Beast God
>and Demon God
>a language which has no relation to and actually predates the guy called Demon God which was spawned from the Dragon God
>and Fighting God
>the language, not the person
>the person Fighting God is actually just a powered armor
>so it probably doesn't speak Fighting God itself
>>142881989
Baby's first narou parody/comedy series.
There are shit tons of these types over there, with the same dull jokes and lame humour.
>>142885211
>Sword God (style)
>Water God (style)
>North God (style)
>Sword God (strongest Sword God style user)
>Water God (strongest Water God style user)
>North God (strongest North God style user)
>Fire God (magic class)
>Water God (magic class)
>Earth God (magic class)
>Wind God (magic class)
>Healing God (magic class)
>Detoxification God (magic class)
>Barrier God (magic class)
>Summoning God (magic class)
>Human God (god of the human world)
>Dragon God (god of the dragon world)
>Demon God (god of the demon world)
>Beast God (god of the beast world)
>Sea God (god of the sea world)
>Heaven God (god of the heaven world)
>Void God (god of the void world)
>Technique God (1st of the 7 world powers)
>Dragon God (2nd of the 7 world powers, may or may not be the same as the other Dragon God)
>Fighting God (3rd of the 7 world powers)
>Demon God (4th of the 7 world powers, may or may not be the same as the other Demon God)
>Death God (5th of the 7 world powers)
>Sword God (6th of the 7 world powers, may or may not be the same as the other Sword God)
>North God (7th of the 7 world powers, may or may not be the same as the other North God)
>Human God (language)
>Magic God (language)
>Fighting God (language)
>Beast God (language)
>Heaven God (language)
>Beast God (langauge)
>>142883672
All the Japanese words for God are just some variation on 神.
>>142885301
>There are shit tons of these types over there, with the same dull jokes and lame humour.
And none of them are 2016's best-selling light novel title.
>>142885211
Ok dude I dislike the whole God shenanigans as well but come on.
>the Water God doesn't fight with water
Its a friggin sword style, why the hell would she fight with water.
>>142852297
That reminds me of retarded dragon girls for some reason.
>>142885579
It wouldn't matter if there wasn't also a style called Sword God style which just doesn't gel well with the other two at least being kind of descriptive of the particular methods they center around. (water flows and wears down gradually, Northerners are sneaky cunts)
>>142885382
And 全能, 上天, etc.
>>142885323
You forgot Roxy.
>>142885714
>全能
literally omnipotent
>上天
literally heaven
>>142885849
Well yeah, that's how Japanese language works. Figuratively they're still used to refer to God.
>>142885968
>Japanese language
English also uses "a higher power" or "the Almighty" or "the heavens" to refer to deities.
>>142885968
But you can bet an amateur translator of the kind that worked on MT using MTL would miss that figurative contextual distinction.
>>142886063
And you would consider those terms used to refer to God, right? Case closed.
>>142886117
Are you stupid or just uneducated peasant? The point that dude's making is that you can use other more artistic term other than "God".
Fuck, go get some schooling retard.
>>142886241
And the artistic merit of a term has to do with the original point, how?
Japanese has plenty of everyday terms constructed from kanji that sound incredibly awkward when read out literally. The fact that you can read 全能 as "all-abled" doesn't mean most people wouldn't read straight past its literal meaning and just parse it as plain ol' "god".
>>142885579
>>142885706
Huh about the North-God style, it's actually interesting how it was described.:
>Rather than saying the style uses sword techniques, it is better to describe it as a way of fighting.
>No special techniques. Merely react based on the situation.
>According to Paul, even though it's based on reactions, it also relies on feints and usage of one's surroundings.
Its basically an unorthodox style. Stuff like throwing the sword mid-battle to catch your opponent off guard and finish him off with something else is common and it doesn't focus merely on the sword unlike the other styles. I always wondered if this even counts as a sword style in the first place.
I mean you do have Auber and his faction who are one trick ponies, but the North-God for example was strong even without the gravity power. He even mocks the users of that kinda sneaky style when he mentioned Auber.
>>142886397
Dem japs should've learn a thing or two from them arabs.
>>142886473
Using that logic I could just bring a machine gun to a sword fight and mow everything down and that would be considered a victory under North God style, as long as my gun has a bayonet on it so Sword was involved in some capacity.
>>142886063
>>142885968
Nips are polytheist, so they don't think of the Abrahamic meme that you and I are stuck with.
>>142886646
m8 just ditch the fucking sword, the style users don't actually care about whether you actually use a sword or not. So yes, you can shoot people with a gun and call yourself a North God style user so long as you're a dirty cheating faggot while doing it.
>>142886646
>>142886646
Pretty much.
>but I guess it still has to something with the swords
Or so you would think.
But then you remember all that 'Ninjutsu' and the midget that was using shiny armour. Hilarious shit.
>>142886718
I like how modern Shinto was basically some kind of meme fanfiction invented by the Imperial Japanese government for the purpose of controlling the populace by teaching them of the Emperor's divine origin as historical fact instead of myth, so that they would worship and be fanatically loyal to the Emperor (who was controlled by the military) so they could be used as fodder in WW2?
>>142887021
State Shinto is a fanfiction.
But there are olde time Shinto that are still rarely practiced today.
>>142887021
Well yeah. It was a lot of ritual folksy practice of local patron saints prior to that 'standardization'.
>>142886738
>the style users don't actually care about whether you actually use a sword or not.
My favorite part was when they claimed that humans don't fight with polearms because they are considered to be demon weapons.
Yeah, sure Rifujin, petty cultural and superstitious bullshit is going to trump sheer practicality in war.
Anyone have that corrupted megumin pic?
>>142850289
>Is it possible to play the premise of being summoned into a fantasy world straight without /a/ shitting all over it?
Re:Zero is basically AOTY and most of /a/ fucking loves it.
>>142850289
Because it was the only good show in the worst season of the entire year.
>>142888181
This season is way worst though. There is not a single enjoyable show this season.
Granted I haven't watch Re:Zero.
>>142888375
>the Almighty
The zombie thing is pretty cool.
because of DEEN
>>142861088
Where are their dicks?
>>142887857
It can when war is less about soldiers fighting each other en masse and more about how many superhumans and walking nukes you have.
>>142866107
>The problem with this is that Aqua doesn't actually like an especially stupid person. She just acts like "a girl".
Holy shit my sides.
>Crt+F meme
>8 results
Come on, people saying memegirl or megumeme are fucking /v/ tier.
>>142890399
Megumin fanbase is utter shit though.
Instead of discussing anything worthy, they just want to dump (stale/old) images and repost stale memes.
She truly is a representative of everything wrong about Konosuba fanbase. If they had any sense of decency, Megumin fanbase should be ashamed with people calling her megumeme.
But nope, they don't care, because they don't actually like her, megumeme fanbase only want to circlejerk.
>Dust casually picked up the juice in front of Yunyun and drank it all in one breath. He then followed Moi line of sight.
Dust is such a scumbag, We must stop all the Yunyun bullying.
>>142890716
I fucking like Megumin, but those faggots really love to shitpost, fucking /v/ shitting everything.
Also just look at Mayoiga, if seasons back people didn't spam all that Okada=trainwreck shit there'd be less shit on those threads. Meanwhile the real trainwreck since ep1 has a lot less attention, you know which anime I'm talking about.
>>142866107
>MAL shit
Fuck those 19h anyways.
>>142866710
You should have seen her reaction to Scwarzesmarken.
>>142890716
That's what happens when an cute anime girl takes the hearts of a bunch of anons from /a/. I don't mind it because I am I like Megumin but it's not different than 50% of the threads on /a/ which are just the same thing but different character.
>>142871374
He's actually a frequent patron
>>142891808
Yeah but its really killing the flow of the series discussion, know what I mean?
Why can't those faggot makes a thread every Thursday and discuss both the latest fanfiction and whatever stale megumeme crap they discuss.
>>142876667
kys
>>142892149
literally proving his point
>>142879578
>...
>>142892060
It just doesn't work that way anon. Out there is some fag who wants to make his thread, and there are enough anons like him to keep that thread alive. Now I don't like it anymore than you do but it's not worth fighting against, Hell look at the Monster Musume threads, if there are enough anons to keep it going, fuck it let them be.
Also there is really not much else to discuss with Konosuba, aside from the latest chapters off Vanir's books what else can you talk about? It's not like there is any deep discussion to be had with the ln.
So whats the mostfunchapter?
>>142886473
90% of CQC is literally practice. The person trains to understand their body's motions and reaction times. Even without professional techniques it will put a soldier far above the average burgerman.
it has top tier reaction images
this is literally it
Because Aqua a best. Waifu of the decade.
Aqua and Wiz really forms a powerful idiotic duo. I guess the more powerful you become the dumber you get.
>>142893107
Power isn't about understanding the world. Power is about changing the world. Why waste time learning garbage that means nothing after you change it?
>>142889474
We also only got a glimpse of the mage nuke squadrons during the Shirone arc, but those can singe-handedly win you the war when used correctly(even if they can't be used for too long because of the mana).
>>142850289
>grimgar nothing happens for 6 episodes
>Re:zero I can die as much as I want
I don't know. I read half of the first volume of the LN and it didn't interest me too much.
Should I give the anime a shot?
>>142895209
Sure. It does things differently because time restraints.
>>142881976
I love twelve kingdoms, but the story does not fit the trend the same way ZnT does, which has been mentioned before.
When will we get another anime season?
>>142891767
>purestrain STEM pandering
a bluh?
He's butthurt that science fiction frequently involves science and technology?
>>142891813
It seems like it skips at some point directly between him wishing to be able to use it someday to implying he uses it all the time. It never really describes when he started and what he got. He should probably still be considered a virgin, though, because he hasn't done it for real and the succubus experience is probably like fully immersive VR porn, and if porn counted there'd be a lot fewer wizards around.
>>142892419
you're 15
>>142896366
>he
Hope is a girl's name, ESL-san
>>142896963
Somebody mentioned he/she/it is Jake now and I want to focus on only one piece of ridiculous bullshit at a time. Stick to the topic: did they just complain that science fiction is about science and technology?
No one talking about new translated ch?
>>142897486
Science fiction isn't STEM pandering in and of itself, but the main character being an engineer who solves all problems with science and engineering and scores a harem while he's at it kind of goes beyond that.
>>142896761
delete your account
>>142897585
>
qts want the STEM dick
Why do people (in discussion about the franchise, not 'in the canon of the story') keep acting like Kazuma is such a bad guy?
He's actually a really good "straight man" type who reacts to ridiculous situations by ridiculing the individuals involved as opposed to the now ubiquitous super nice guy who gets slapped around and antagonized and victimized for comedic effect on a regular basis and doesn't do anything.
Like Kazuma still bails out and tries to help his friends A LOT, he isn't even an "asshole", he's just polite.
I think he's a pretty good MC all things considered, he doesn't have any overpowered shit, he relies more on planning and delegating to his brawn/magic/etc... over brains comrades. He's not a 'bad guy', and he's not a doormat either.
>>142898024
typo
>*he's just NOT polite.
>>142851544
He asked about age limits as well and got excited when the succubus said there were none.
Loli is not his first choice, but he is still a man of excellent taste that can enjoy both tittymonsters and lolis. Truly a based MC.
>solves all problems with science and engineering
Did we watch the same show?
>>142851447
>Aqua
>heroine
>implying
>>142898693
The real heroine is Megumin. Official media calls her that.
>>142898743
Hmph. It's only natural that the best heroine of the Crimson Clan should be the best heroine of the season.
>>142856308
the anime is pretty good, the haters are reddit-tier
>>142898889
>the haters are reddit-tier
No, you cant just turn it around just like that, the anime is massive on plebbit
>>142883202
Lighten up, comrade. Here, have wodka.
Books no worse than gulag.
>>142897501
Seems like it unfortunately. Too bad because Vanir is rockin' it.
>>142897501
>>142901421
I guess circlejerking on specific girl is better than talking about new material.
>>142851165
but none of the girls really like the MC
Except Megumin, who stands the only chance of winning.
>succubus doujin translated
Good stuff.
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