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Cornucopia of Resources / Guide
Read the guide before asking questions.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1pKgBm8Aa58mjB1hYhbK-VOPZsRBTXBuPBzw8Xikm2ss/pub?embedded=true

Previous Thread: >>142776748
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DJTたち、勉強しろ!
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Learning Japanese is easier than understanding girls, so it should be easy to learn Japanese.
頑張って、DJTたち!
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>making new threads before the old one has 404'd
Don't do this, it gets the mods booty-blasted.
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>context: demon eating a soul
>やっぱりババアは駄目だな、魂が濁りきってやがる。まぁ、でも野郎のよかマシか。
>野郎のよか
What's よか? Some antiquated form of より or something?
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>>142813655
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今日も一日ざんがるぼい!
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>>142815415
That's the only thing I can think of, because のよりマシ is such a common expression and makes sense in that context.
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>>142815415

My 明鏡国語辞典 has an entry for よか stating that it is a corruption of よりか.
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>>142815781
>>142815697
Thanks m8s.
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>>142814671
does that imply girls learn japanese twice as fast or not at all
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>>142815984
[to learn japanese] is easier than [to understand girls]
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>>142815984
Girls cannot learn Japanese because they don't read eroge, which is the main method of practice.
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>>142816062
So, now it makes sense why all japanese girls are sluts craving for a cock (according to my h-doujins).

They all learned japanese through eroges, so they must be (closet) sluts.
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>>142816062
>they don't read eroge
fuckin spewin, what a shame it is to lack penis; always afraid and held to some invisible, unobtainable standard

ちなみに妹さんは? 死んだかな
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おはようおにいちゃん

おせんたくするからきているのものぜんぶぬいで
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>>142816470
OH SHI-
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>>142816470
>dat fake imouto
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>>142816470
ちょうどいい、俺はもう全裸だ。ちなみに今はオナニ-中ので、邪魔すんな。
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Read the guide but forgive me for a ridiculous question... To clarify, the absolute first thing I should do is memorise Hiragana and Katakana, right?
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>>142816838
Yes.
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>>142816838
yrd
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>>142816838
One thing I'd recommend against the general guide is to study grammar after picking hiragana/katakana.

You'll pick some basic vocab on most guides from examples, some kanjis as well, and when your grammar is SOLID, you can read pretty much anything with a dictionary as you build your grammar.

Just so you don't end like those anons "I know all the words but I don't get what they mean"
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>>142816857
>>142816870
Thank you. I'll leave with silly questions now.
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>>142816838
That's a waste of time. You can just use a program to convert everything to Romanji and become fluent way faster than these nerds
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>>142816838
yes but dont swear ヲ so much
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>>142816976
*as build your vocab, ffs
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>>142816976
I doubt the guide ever tells you not to start with grammar asap.
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>>142816976
Cheers. I'm going to try a few different approaches but I don't want to get too swamped by resources. If I have ten apps, five Anki decks, four books all teaching the same thing I'll never get anywhere.
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>>142816976
おまえは脳と口が直結してんのか?
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>>142817009
i rarely see ヌ much either, still trip over シ ツ and ソ ン
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>>142817077
No, they're controlled separately, as well as my fingers.

Sometimes I only want to drink water but my body grabs soda instead, it's annoying.
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>>142817134
It's very easy to tell them apart once you see them written next to each other.
Just look at the direction and order of the strokes. ツ is written from left to right and the long stroke is nearly horizontal, while ツ is written from right to left and the long strike is a lot closer to vertical.
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>>142817259
yeah i see all that, in normal fonts.. some handwriting doe... some 'special' fonts also
im getting better just on the idea of common phrasing as i read more, not individual stroke nuance
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2 days after I decided to learn Japanese again, it seems I can continue this learning.
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>>142817494
No, you can't.
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>バージンロード
Fucking nips, man.
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Remembering what these chinese hieroglyphics mean is easy. Why is remembering how they sound so hard?
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>>142817996
Both are easy when you know japanese
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>>142817763
wow
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きょうも日本語をできなかった
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>>142816838
Yes, then after that you have ~4000 kanji to learn.

頑張れ!
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>>142818602
No problem. I have the rest of my life to learn.
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>>142817996
It's been the opposite for me
Maybe you're associating them with the meaning but not the sound as opposed to what I do
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>>142816470
なぜカナでばかり?
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君はこんな状況でどうするの?
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>>142817996
The sound is easier for me to remember when I know the word. I used to read 通知 as "michishiru" back in the days when I didn't know the word.
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>>142819336
やんでれ最高
行くときまってるんでしょ
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>>142819336
私?
放課後、屋上にオナニーをするつもりだからなんでもない。
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Can someone explain what 流れぬままですか means?

流れ is the masu stem of 流れる but I've never seen this ぬまま grammar before.
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>>142819245
妹だから
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>>142819549
流れぬ=流れない

It's some kind of old-fashioned negative, I think.
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>>142819710
:)
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>>142819630
子供だから、まだ漢字が良いと言う?
子供か本当かな。。
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これは出来ないの物語ではない
日本語が出来ない者は不要だ
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>>142820100
>日本語が出来ない者は不要だ
What did he mean by this?
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When I look at a chart saying how many unique kanji a porn game contains is that amount the total number of unique singular kanji or are the total amount of words made up of two or more kanji considered unique kanji also
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>>142820191
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>>142820218
English isn't my first language.
I take it this was a retarded question
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>>142820306
You should be able to figure it out just from the scale of the numbers
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>>142819710

サンキュー
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182 days to go!
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>>142820863
Enjoy forgetting 2000 of them before you actually come across any words that use them
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Which is the correct romaji to use? "Genki desu ka?" or "Ogenki desu ka?"
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>>142821182
It depends. Ogenki is more formal than genki.
Drop romaji as soon as possible though, if you're studying Japanese.
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>What's more, if you open the window, you can hear the voice of the cicadas
>Not only that, but you can hear the sound of wind-chimes too
This bit is pretty straight-forward, but...

>It seems like summer and it's good, you know.
This just seems like a really awkward thing to say, so I'm not sure that I'm getting it properly. It also doesn't really feel like it follows on properly from the preceding lines. I would expect something more along the lines of:
>This is what's good about summer, you know.

Is there some sort of nuance that I'm missing?
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>>142821464
I want to hang Zoi and put her brain in a jar.
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>>142821788
とても美味しそうだ
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I want to kill myself
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>>142822176
No, you're just an attention whore. You want to tell everyone how you want to kill yourself so people will feel pity for you. If you really wanted to kill yourself you would shut up and do it already. Seriously, kill yourself.
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拙者はシスコン
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>>142822247
自殺したい
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anyone wanna summerize the guide for me or tell where to get a 日本語 keyboard
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>>142821702
くて kinda implies that there's some connection or sequence between the thing before and the thing after, so literally 夏らしくていい is like "it's summery and therefor good", although just "it's summery and good" would also be fine and sounds perfectly natural

You should stop trying to have shit make sense in English, because you will fail
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>>142821702
Stop translating
Try to understand it directly in japanese.
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>>142821702
>Is there some sort of nuance that I'm missing?

Not really, but it sounds like you're still in the Tae-Kim mindset where you need to translate everything to English first. It might be awkward in English but that's a really common way to express that something sure is nice. You'll get used to it really quickly because of how frequent it it.

>...they sure do give off a nice, summery-vibe!
Or something like that.
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>>142822679
>>142822723
I only do that when I can't figure it out. As a fallback I try breaking it down bit by bit in English to see if I can somehow make sense of it.
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>>142822778
I think it's a bad habit anway.
I try to repeat the same sentence with different intonations and giving particles different meanigs.
It' usually works.
Try to use english as a last resort
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>>142822778
Doing that is probably just going to make you more confused a lot of the time

I'd suggest if you're stuck on something look up other sentences that use the same grammar to get a sense of how it's used in Japanese

Jisho's pretty good for that, it has English translations as well to make it even easier to see how it works, just type something in Japanese with #sentence afterwards

http://jisho.org/search/%E3%81%8F%E3%81%A6%E3%81%84%E3%81%84%20%23sentence
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>>142822928
>>142822861
>>142822723
>>142822679
If you can't translate a sentence into English then you don't really understand it in Japanese.

How is anyone supposed to ask a question about the meaning of a sentence without translating it to show their interpretation?
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>>142823129
For a beginner it can be hard to keep a 3 lines long sentence in head, especially if it has 5 new words in it that he just met and looked up.

That's why it can help to translate parts of it into English and focus only on the small part in Japanese that you didn't understand.
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>>142823129
Translating something into English and having something make sense in English are two very different things

In that anon's original post he was confused because the Japanese sentence sounded "awkward", but it only sounds awkward in English, it's perfectly fine in Japanese
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Writing is so much harder than I expected. I'm struggling with あ, although it is my first day. I filled an A4 sheet and maybe 10% of them look decent.

It's like learning to draw. Is handwriting much more strict in Japanese? Are there examples of bad, but acceptable writing?
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>>142823336
When you get used to it, you'd be surprised at some handwriting you find on some professional works...

I'd say anything goes, as long as it's recognizable.
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>>142822650
at least tell me whats a good japanese keyboard to use
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>>142823336
>Is handwriting much more strict in Japanese?

OH BOY
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百合の力が怖い
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>>142823539
Just get one of these from ebay
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>>142823336
holding your pen/pencil like a brush kinda helps

does anyone else do this? ive heard thats how youre suppost to write jap
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>>142823605
wtf
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>>142823499
Thanks.

>>142823553
Please explain.
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>>142823642
If you have a pen, it does not matter
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>>142822650
>>142823539
You do realise that there's no real technical difference between those keyboards, right?
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>>142823678
>Please explain.

The majority of Japanese handwriting is atrocious, it's the same kind of fast sloppy shit you'd expect in any country but with three times the complexity and 10+ more strokes than you get with English letters, I'm sure you can imagine where problems arise
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>>142823336
The other day I asked a japanese guy to write something and take a pic, pic related.

I still haven't been able to fully decipher it.

So yeah I'd say it probably doesn't matter as much as people make it out to be.

also it'd be nice if someone could transcribe the whole thing
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>>142823789
Good job
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>>142823789
>>142823810
of course this happens
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>>142823743
Cheers. I did wonder how anybody could possibly write it and have it look as pristine as it does in books.

>>142823837
Bottom left looks like some of my attempts at あ. Is that acceptable or common?
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>>142823721
i not talking about the literal/physical keyboard,
what do you guys use?
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>>142822650
>>142823539
Why would you need one? They're literally the same except they have a couple of extra buttons for turning the IME on/off and switching between hiragana, katakana and latin characters. You can easily just rebind those special keys to something like SUPER+SPACE for the IME control and CTRL+1, CTRL+2, CTRL+3, etc. for kana and have exactly the same functionality without paying what will probably be a fortune for a much worse keyboard than you could buy for half the price if you just got a normal one.
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How blind am I
>大好きなトがノーパンで心配
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>>142823678
Take a look at some of the stuff I've tried to read before.
First one looks just like a "normal" handwriting to me. 2nd and 3rd are a bit exaggerated yes, but that's should still be understandable (I asked for help with some of these).
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>>142823917
>Bottom left looks like some of my attempts at あ. Is that acceptable or common?

That's お, so no, it is not
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>>142823941
Almost.
大好きな人がノーパンで心配
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>>142823968
Oh, missed that extra stroke. Never mind.
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>>142823917
Well that's obviously an お because of the little thingy. You just have to see in あ there's the vertical line then it does the loop which starts from above at the right, while in お the loop is continued from the vertical line.

Just look up hiragana in google images, look at the Wikipedia image with the stroke orders, and that's it.
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>>142823837
It would help if he didn't have parkinsons

I can make out これは僕の遺書だ at least, I could probably get all of it if I could be bothered to spend more than 30 seconds looking at it
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>>142823997
>I love people who don't worry about wearing panties
Wew
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>>142824127
I'm worried because the person I love is not wearing panties. / The person I love is worried because she's not wearing panties.
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>>142824127
Wrong
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>>142823933
i wasnt talking about the physical keyboard i just meant a good! software/program for japanese that also translates kana into kanji like a virtual keyboard
i found one but i sometimes it wouldnt have the kanji i needed
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I don't know what 作つたデート means

sakutsuta date? what does sakutsuta means
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>>142824211
just get google IME then
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>>142824184
If no specification is said, the topic is I
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>>142824211
Google IME
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>>142824236
provide source/context
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>>142824236
作った, you retard.
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>>142824127
Wee I was going to post but >>142824201 beat me to it.

Learn your particles.
が subject
"The (my) loved person is"
で at, situation
"not using pants"
+ "I worry"

Cut engrish out,
"I'm worried when the person I love isn't using panties."
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>>142824006
its not just the extra stroke its a whole different shape
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>>142824284
fuck

thanks anon
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Is Fairy Tail easy to read?

More importantly, is it any good?

.
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>>142824390
>is it any good?
of course not, dumb question
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>>142824390
Any shounen is easy, Fairy Tail is sorta... meh though. It's definitely not one of the big ones, but it's far from bad.
A solid 7.5 I'd say.
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>>142824390
If it's mainstream enough that you know about it, then it's shit.
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>>142824460
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>>142823837
Ez
くそ眠い
眠すぎて死にそうだ
これは、僕の遺書だ
僕がねていたら明日朝8時に
おこしてくれ
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>>142823837
You in Japan?
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Do they really have to censor everything in VNs?
I had to google レ◯ブロック only to find out it's about lego (レゴブロック)
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>>142823931
Mozc+IBus. I'm on Linux though so I dunno if this is available on Windows.

There's a section on the resources page about typing in Japanese:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1hUbYaadO9wSSPx8eknoV9RA0HoBucaZrF2HXvs_bp0g/edit#heading=h.wsteifb3wbeg
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>>142824247
>>142824237
>willingly installing google's keylogger botnet
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>>142824673
Do you have something to hide anon?
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>>142824572
Oh nice, the parts that fucked me up were 眠 because it looked like 2 separate kanji, 遺 because I didn't know it, and the whole 明日朝8時 because 明日 looked like just 3 fucking squares.
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>>142824616
I like you.
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>>142824716
Everyone has things they don't want other people knowing, and nobody wants to feel like there's some stranger looking over their shoulder and watching their every move.

The right to privacy is an extremely important freedom, and the loss of it is exactly what allows countries like North Korea to exist. You shouldn't be so complacent about it with your "well i have nothing to hide, lol" attitude.
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>>142824635
Mozc is the open source project that google input is based on. So, google input would be the same thing on windows.
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>read 3 chapters of yotsuba today
Feels productive, man.

Though I'm now one chapter from finishing volume 1 and I don't really feel like I've progressed at all for it...
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>>142825045
You'll feel the same as you finish 12 volumes more. Did you expect big progress from 200 pages of picture book?
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>>142825045
It's a slow process buddy, you really don't even notice when you improve, just keep ganbarying and before you know it you'll be tugging your dick to the most plot heavy doujinshi out there
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>>142825119
If I'm not really going to progress at all from reading this, then why is it recommended as beginner material? It seems kind of pointless if it's so easy that you don't learn anything of substance by reading it.
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>>142825045
>Spent all day shitposting and watching e3 streams
At least I did my reps I guess. I should probably play Hanahira for at least an hour, and skim my grammer notes.
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>>142825191
Something slightly above your level.
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>>142825203
>I should probably play Hanahira for at least an hour
The reason I read through 3 chapters of Yotsuba today (which doesn't sound like much but it took me quite a while to do) is simply because I'm enjoying the story. I didn't have to force myself to do it, I did it because I wanted to.

If you're having to force yourself to read Hanahira, then maybe you should try picking up something else instead that makes you actually want to read it.

>>142825225
Even Yotsuba seems above my level right now though.
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I can read the kanji, but I can't write it in paper.
Help ;_;
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>>142825191
>It seems kind of pointless if it's so easy that you don't learn anything of substance by reading it.
Is this not you or are you retarded? There is no such thing as "too easy to gain experience" for a beginner. You're reading native material, intended for actual natives. Of course you're going to improve if you're currently at level zero.
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>>142825403
Why do you need to write it?
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>>142825410
Intended for >>142825305
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>>142825403
You're supposed to write it ON the paper

You're welcome anon
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>>142824739
>and the whole 明日朝8時 because 明日 looked like just 3 fucking squares.
glad im not the only one
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>>142825410
The guy I was responding to pretty seemed to suggest that I would be no further ahead even after finishing volume 13 of Yotsuba.

Perhaps in my reply I should've said "If that's the case, then...".
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>>142825510
Don't listen to a single random anon over a guide created by literally hundreds of people's input over the course of multiple years. There's a lot of bullshit in it but if there were a better manga to read as some of your first native material then it'd be mentioned in the guide.
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From core 2k:

日本での生活は楽しいです

What is the function of の here? Possession? "Life of by way of Japan is fun" i.e. "Life in Japan is fun"?
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>>142825403
Reading and writing are separate skills... sort of. Being able to recognise a character when you see it used in a familiar word does not, in most cases, grant you the ability to write that character at will. However, if you know how to write a particular character then being able to recognise that character when it's used in words is a given.

If you've never practised writing, then you won't be able to write.
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>>142825745
>日本の生活
Life of Japan
>日本での生活
Living in Japan
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>>142825829
Is there any reason why 日本で生活 wouldn't also mean living in Japan?
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>>142825866
It does mean that.
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>>142825866
で connects to verb
での modifies noun
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>>142826008
So 日本で生活する is correct but 日本で生活 is not?
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>>142825866
>日本で生活は楽しいです
In Japan, life is fun.

>日本での生活は楽しいです
Life in Japan is fun.

That's my best guess.
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>>142826046
>So 日本で生活する is correct but 日本で生活 is not?

Yes.
The meaning is almost the same though.

日本での生活は楽しい
Life in japan/living in japan is fun

日本で生活するのは楽しい
Living in japan is fun.

i don't know if there is a big change in meaning or not, never bothered to look that up.
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それ

それはとってもいい話だ
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>>142826194
右側の娘をファックしたい
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>it's a 杏奈 is a jobber episode
http://dorama9.com/2016/06/01/post-945/
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>>142826194
Even after all these years I still read that in the voice and everything

My favourite was always

塩を少々入れてください
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>>142826194
Fuck, is it Rosetta Stone?

To this day I have nightmares about that
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>>142826342
It's fucking core.
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>>142826753
Well I hope it got core's consent
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My phone was stolen, two years worth of reps gone.
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>>142827187
>Not syncing
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>>142827187
>two years worth of reps gone.
What about the loli doujinshi and sadpanda browser history?
That's more important tbhfamdesu
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>>142827215
>uploading your personal information on the internet willingly
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So with Tae Kim, should I take the vocab he uses and throw those into a separate Anki deck?

Also, going through his guide is nice, but what should I be looking for/noting for grammar? Is that another deck to make, or should I take notes or what?
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>>142827359
>Reps
>Personal info
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>>142827546
What if your family or friends find out about your Japanese studies?
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>>142827615
お、おそろしい
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>>142827187
Phones these days are basically tracking devices. The police should be able to find it pretty easily depending how stupid the person who stole it is.
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>>142827658
They should, if they wanted to bother with it. In reality they don't give a fuck.
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>>142827531
The first read through Tae Kim is just there to expose you to the grammar of the language. Once you've finished it, you start reading, then when it turns out you've forgotten something you look it up in Tae Kim/Imabi/DoJG to refresh your memory.

Also, no, there's no need to mine vocab from your grammar guide.
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>>142827725
I know that 気持ち.

My bike was stolen in full view of a CCTV in broad daylight, in the middle of town where there are tons of other CCTV cameras, and the police somehow never found it or the people who stole it, even though I reported it within 5 or 10 minutes of the theft and they told me that the people who nicked it were caught on the camera doing it.
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How many words should I learn in Anki per day in order to maximize efficiency and word retention?

I know it depends on the individual, though some guidelines from a more experienced learner would be appreciated.
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>>142827874
20-50, depending on how much time you want to spend on it and how familiar are you with kanji.
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>>142827874
The general guideline for people who have not learned all the 常用漢字 is no more than 20 cards a day.
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>>142827874
Keep in mind that if you do a high number of new cards, over time your amount of review cards will skyrocket and you'll have to invest a lot of time into anki

If you have the time it shouldn't matter, but it's worth mentioning that you could easily end up spending 1hour+ just doing anki everyday if you try and maximise your new cards
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>>142819527
Hey sperg, don't post shit so retarded in Japanese that you would get banned for posting in English. You're not funny, your're not clever, you come across like a teenager trying too hard.
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>>142821117
Look up what Anki is.
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I'm having that thing where you see a word once and then start seeing it loads with 愛想を尽かす
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>>142828334
Thanks for weighing in on that five-hour-old shitpost. Make sure to thoroughly comb over the rest of thread lest some try-hard sperg escape your wrath.
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>>142827874
spread across all my decks im learning 110 newcards per day and its going ok
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>>142822928
The A Dictionary of Japanese Grammar books are perfect for that sort of thing and there is an anki deck covering the three published books. Is this not in the anon made learner overview guide? You would assume it be suggested right along with learn the phonetic script and use one of the iknow Core vocabulary anki decks, for the basics.
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>>142827739

I feel like I am not retaining a lot from Tae Kim (some grammar and some vocab), so I was just worried I am doing it wrong somewhere.
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>>142828677
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G5IPArDxO40
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>>142828704
ナット ヂス シット アゲン
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>>142828732
>ヂス
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>>142828704

Poignant. Thanks, this is my second second language to learn, and the first second language felt almost natural, so it's just been an experience not really understanding too much.
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>>142828677
You have to constantly apply the grammar you learn if you want to retain it. Conveniently, it's easy to apply grammar because it shows up anywhere there's Japanese involved.

The idea is not to read Tae Kim and memorize the "meanings" of all the grammatical structures so you never have to look them up later. You're supposed to read the descriptions for the pieces of grammar he covers, make sure you see the sense in how they work, and look out for them later. With time they become more natural.

If you end up reading a sentence with some grammar you've heard before but don't really get, then you look up some examples on something like alc.co.jp or see if you can reconcile it with the DOJG description or some other Japanese grammar resource out there.
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>>142828847
was the first one english
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>>142828969

Awesome. It's not that the grammar itself is tripping me up I think, just that it isn't sticking. This heartens me more for it, realizing that it shouldn't be instant understanding.

>>142829093
Native English, just retarded.
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Tfw one hour til bed and I know I should use it to read but I'd rather spend fucking around and looking at porn
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>>142829476

That isn't a waste, anon.
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Shit I assumed 20 was just the optimal number for learning new cards and now people say up to 50 is fine
I'm even NEETing this semester
Though I should just finish TK already
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>>142829529
With 50 cards you will probably spend over 2 hours each day just with anki. It really depends on your tolerance.
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>>142829529
20-30 is the sweet spot. Above that is burnout zone.
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>>142829558
It's not like you need to do them all at once right?
Can't remember any mention about it at least
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>>142829614
>doing less than 1000/day
I finished the 常用感字 in 2 days, anyone taking more than that amount of time is an idiot
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>i've begun having dreams in japanese
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>>142829790
I became fluent in one sitting.
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>>142829529
>now people say up to 50 is fine
*now a person says up to 50 is fine

And notice he qualified that by saying "depending on [...] how familiar are you with kanji".
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>>142829888

I didn't even have to learn it to know I am wasting my time!
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>>142829614
>go full tryhard with 100 cards once
>skip the next couple of days
The burnout is real
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Although the guide doesn't like it, one thing WaniKani has right is their flashcard system. Definitely like having to type the answers out to see if they are right, rather than just doing it in my head like on Anki.
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>>142829759
There is such a thing as mental fatigue. Even if you take breaks, it builds up. There is only so much you can reasonably hope to learn in a day.

Don't rush. This isn't a race. Accept that it's going to take you a long time to reach your goal and focus on sustainable habits.
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>>142830031
You can do that on anki too, just need to learn how to customise it that way
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>>142829614
if you only have 1-2 decks you better be at 40+ at least or you are effectively learning below 50% efficiency
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>>142830031
What practical difference is there between saying the answer and typing it?
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>>142830031
Doesn't everyone just speak out loud to get used with pronunciation while at it? I assumed that's why the deck comes with sound to begin with
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>>142830136
plus wanikani's ui is just more vibrant, when i was using it for the free levels i found it helped my focus a lot
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>>142830191
t. Wanikani community manager
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>>142830191
It definitely has its advantages for certain types of learners, but it has an equal amount of disadvantages, there's not much point bringing it up around here as it's already established that it's the worst thing ever
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>>142830191
50 points have been added to your Wanikani account, Andrew
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>>142829476
Reading raw doujins would be hitting two birds with 1 stone.
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>>142830135
>50% efficiency
Do you even know what efficiency means?
>>142829759
Before I started 50 new cards a day I had a correct rate on mature cards of 93%. Now it goes slowly down to 85-91%. But on the other site I know much more words. It depends on how much time you want to put in. If you don't wanna learn for some years do more cards.
And you can still put it down to 20 again after some weeks to get the reviews down.
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>>142830372
Sadpanda has an option to make all doujins japanese for those who don't know. My mining deck is full of lewd as a result.
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>>142830519
I avoid putting lewd words into my mining deck. I'm always worried someone will oversee it over my shoulder (even though I mainly do reps in my own room, with the monitor facing the wall)
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>>142829614
I feel I could do more because I only do it on my mobile. It doesn't feel like homework when I do several sittings of a dozen or two cards between whatever activities I do in a day
Still I'd rather not risk a burnout, if I'm going to increase anything, it'll be time to properly finish the basics of grammar. Maybe add a grammar deck after
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>>142830372
I ended up playing a VN that was just before a sex scene, feels like a cop out though since 80% of the dialogue is just a lot of あs and うs
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>>142830586
あああ、聖剣エクスカリバーが入った
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>>142829093
>pompous because his mother tongue is English
>uses a reaction image from a foreign cartoon
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>>142830130

Ah, I'll do that then.

>>142830136

With WK, I say and type things, so I guess it feels like I am doing more. If I do customize Anki like that, obviously it'll be better (and free!).

>>142830289

I know, /a/ and djts are full of a bunch of autists that have to have things just so or else it's full on sperg mode.
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>>142830722
Is it possible to customize your anki cards so you can also say the word out loud during review?
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>>142830766

Wait, what? >>142830130 mentions that it is possible to be able to type answers out rather than just only saying them out loud. You type in your answer, then it checks if it is right or not. Then you can fix it if you get it wrong, and much like Anki has a system that places ones you suck at in a quicker queue, and ones you don't suck at in a longer queue.
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>>142823917

Take heart. I can write 4000+ kanji beautifully and properly from memory, but for some reason, my あ always looks like shit to me when I write it. Well, あ and ゑ, but that doesn't come up as often.
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>>142832342
my そs and ふs always look like shit
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>>142827817

My wife's bike got stolen from the uni where she works when some asshole prised the ring lock off and made off with it. She contacted the police who drove out to her uni to take fingerprints off the discarded lock that the thief had left behind and then gave her a ride home.

They found and returned the stolen bicycle to her less than a week later.

'Course, we live in Japan where the cops are paid to help people and not to fuck with them to generate revenue, so that helps.
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>>142830031
Yeah, WaniKani is pretty good.
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>>142832527

I find そ looks aesthetically better when written with two strokes like in pic-related.
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>>142832554
But in Japan the crime rate is nearly zero, so police has time to fuss with minor incidents like that. You don't have niggers killing each others daily.
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おはようございます、友達だ!
私は日本語を覚える。 私はいいやる?
間違いを言う、ね?
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Come on, what kind of a shit mnemonic is this?
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Sup DJT, I need help with a translation.

The word is 腐れ縁.
The context is a girl rumored to be going out with someone, her (close) friend asks about it and then says:
> ただ小さい頃からの腐れ縁としては本当なら先輩苦労するな
> どういう事よっ!

So I'm looking how to make this dialogue look good.

"It's just that since we have this (I don't want to) inseparable relationship, if the rumor is true, it'll be trouble for the senpai..."
"What do you mean (you don't want to)!?"

I need some sorta of "I/You don't want this" adjective or expression. Any help is appreciated!
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>>142817259
Nice me.me
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>>142832921
When people lived in the CAVES, they SAT in LINE around the fire on SOIL
;^)
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>>142832794
日本語を覚えているのか?
日本語を勉強して下さい
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>>142832921
>assembly line
just change it into two 人.
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>>142832921
Those mnemonics seem to be all shit tbqh

I did happen to have made a mnemonic for that kanji though, and it's that it's just 2 dudes sitting there. easy af.

Using others' mnemonics seems inconvenient, too.
I only make them up when I'm having a really hard time remembering a kanji, and it doesn't necessarily have to be "stories" either, just make some random shit up with the radicals, something not too complex so that it doesn't take effort to remember the mnemonic (because that would defeat the purpose of a mnemonic), but something good enough that you can at least start connecting dots in your head back to what the kanji meant.
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Here's your fun, inspirational expression for the day, DJT.

跛鼈千里

"Even a crippled turtle can travel a thousand leagues"
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>>142833028
ありがとう。
I guess I need to improve my vocabulary. Forgot about 「勉強」.
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>>142833154
>里
>leagues
>り
>riagues
cannot unsee
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>>142833134

That's a good mnemonic largely because that is exactly what it was meant to represent.

坐: 会意。「人+人+土」で人が地上に尻をつけることを示す。

座 just represents a place to sit in a house.
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>>142833154
No, I'm fairly sure a crippled turtle would die before even doing a fraction of that.
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>>142833319
Wow, that's interesting. I didn't know about 会意 either.
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Where can I learn mnemonics?
Im having trouble recognizing kanji even with only 4% of the Anki 6k Core
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>>142833350

...

It's a magic turtle?

...

...that accepted crippled legs in exchange for immortality? You know, kinda like Odin and his eye for knowledge?
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