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So, chapter 112 korean scanlation is out, and it's more Musashi masturbation.
I wonder if the conversation with Gaia brought anything new to the table.
>>142516006
I wonder if we'll have something about Ali in Baki now that he died IRL
Also chapter 94 of Dou and 94 of Grappler were released on Spiny too.
>>142516181
it'll probably will take months for that to happen, but I wondered the same.
>>142516195
And this is what I usually call an asspull.
>Memetobe doing the classic drawing Musashi pose
ITAKAGI NO, STOP!
Can't seem to find chapters 171 to 180 of grappler baki, did the wild fang released them somewhere?
no baki lovers today?
What's this about, does Musashi still intend to kill Pickle?
Exploitable.
>>142516919
Seconding this question.
>>142518749
I'd wait for the scans, where there won't be a shitty watermark on gia's face, but I like the idea.
>>142518671
I think he's explaining to Gaia that he has already tested and defeated Pickle.
>>142518671
He's gonna fight pickle again now that he has his swords
t. don't know korean
>>142519242
I don't think musashi wants to fight pickle anymore, he already knows he would win.
>>142519902
Pickle will have a gun this time
>>142519972
won't chane a fuckign thing, musashi will cut the bullets mid air or some other shit.
>>142520141
It'll be a novelty gun
>>142520245
if it where to be a laser gun musashi would just reflect the shots with the blade sideways.
So who's the weakest character from some other series who could beat Musashi? Could a Stand user do him in, or would the imagination bullshit counter that?
>>142520302
It's one of those guns that shoots a little flag that says bang
Clearly I'm just fucking around about Pickle having a gun but I think Motobe would use a novelty gun that says bang
>>142516006
So since this series seems to have finally dropped the whole schtick about unarmed combat being the only acceptable form of violence, are we going to see any highly trained fighters who use guns in the future? It seems like a natural progression.
>>142516279
Nah. Fighting on the streets and in the ring are completely different animals. It's not unusual for a champion boxer or wrestler to get beaten into shit without rules. Even by children if said children have, for example, a knife - this happened in Iran some years ago, iirc.
Or that Russian Olympic wrestler who got stabbed at a party. Or the great Russian hope in boxing getting beaten almost to death by unknown people in Berlin. And let#s not forget the BJJ "master" who got into jail for kiddie fucking and got beaten, stabbed and raped there..
And vice versa, it's the same: A good streetfighter usually makes for a shitty boxer/wrestler and is really no good in the ring.
Just different animals. People have written about that since antiquity, too. So it's nothing new.
>>142520519
Yeah, but they already went with that angle with the escaped prisoners and they still sucked.
>>142520519
But Jack IS n experienced street fighter, the difference here is that Memetobe is a "true warrior"
>>142516006
Why is Motobe so insistent on killing Musashi anyway? What's he ever done to him?
>>142516006
link
>>142521152
http://marumaru.in/b/manga/32256
Korean raws are posted here, newest at the bottom.
>>142520806
Musashi's goal is to kill people until he's as admired and respected as he was back in his day, why should't Memetobe want to kill him?
>>142521898
Why does no one tell him that he's already famous and he should just go on tv and show off a little to prove he's Musashi?
>>142522016
because Musashi doesn't give a fuck and in the end he is another battle junkie just like Yujiro.
>>142516919
>>142518749
Seconding this too.
>>142520701
They also went that way with Baki vs Gaia, it's simply a Baki thing.
>>142522719
Musashi is the only one able to be proficient with weapons, and now Memetobe too because Japan stronk.
>>142516919
>>142518749
>>142522223
Not as far as I know. We were banking on the fact that they said they would. Given that they haven't done so even now, we'll probably shift gears and do those chapters. sowwy
>>142520806
Motobe thinks "the fight against Musashi" in principle is his responsibility, as he's the only one who has bothered to study the ancient Japanese martial arts. He believes that those old arts are important to preserve, and now he's got an opponent on which to test them/test their historical veracity. He's also trying to reconcile the old arts with the new arts, which is why he refuses to let anyone die, and is why he's trying to teach each fighter that the old arts give him an advantage.
>>142522016
He doesn't understand modern fame. His recollection of being important was people following him everywhere he went, women offering themselves to him and mountains of gold; none of which have been offered to him in this current era as-of-yet.
>>142519242
It looked like he had that in mind in the Pickle chapter raws, but who knows now. He imaginary-slashed off Pickle's head here whereas he couldn't do it before (which is why he got the fucking swords), so maybe he'll move on to greener pastures.
>>142525693
>Given that they haven't done so even now, we'll probably shift gears and do those chapters
Oh ok, would be great to see the finale of the "fight" scanlated finally.
>He believes that those old arts are important to preserve
I wonder if this arc is a reaction to this piece of news from a while ago.
http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-20135674
>>142526419
I love how Itagaki deforms the human body.
It's really really expressive where it counts.
>>142526696
>but the country does have one, or maybe two, surviving ninja
Kahaha, I actually do wonder now. That seems too on-the-mark to be wrong.
>>142526806
I just thought it looked stupid.
>>142526806
In that case, I disagree.
>>142526884
>>142526934
Itagaki is expressing her inner distress and desperation, which is on overwhelming levels at that point through art, and I think it's really a great portrayal of that.I want Emi to bully me.
>>142527114
This page is well drawn, the expressions serve a motive. The one I posted was just cartoonish, it didn't fit at all.
Does Itagaki have sameface problem with females?
>>142527392
>The one I posted was just cartoonish, it didn't fit at all.
I think it fits and it's well executed and on point. I guess it's the thing that art has, everyone has it's own feeling and interpretation about it.
>Does Itagaki have sameface problem with females?
I think he does yeah.
Also why is Emi so shit in the anime?
>>142527927
Everybody was shit in the anime.
>>142528145
The Gouki vs Doppo fight was OVA like quality.
>>142528505
Yeah that's true. The dub was horrible though.
Keep baki alive
>>142528505
It's the only part of the anime that I ever feel drawn back to watch again. I just love that fight, and I love Shibukawa's VA. I can't think of anyone else who could have perfectly embodied that mix of old age and bloodlust.
That being said: let's say New Grappler Baki is being adapted. Who do you hire to voice Kaku, and who do you hire to voice Oliva? Hardmode: you can't pick Sergio Oliva for Oliva.
>>142530253
If it's dub, might as well pick Dwayne Johnson because he's in everything now.
>>142530362
No, for Japanese.
Who the fuck can sound like they're 150? There must be someone.
>>142530409
>Who the fuck can sound like they're 150?
Considering Japan has one of the longest life expectancies, I'd say just pick any old guy. They have plenty of them.
>>142530253
Wakamoto for Oliva?
>>142530253
Would you keep the old cast for the established characters?
>>142530656
I kinda want to save Wakamoto for Musashi. Listen in your head: can't you hear Wakamoto doing Musashi's monologues? Plus, he'd be perfect for all the times Musashi screams
>MUN
>FUN
and
>KATSU
Personally, I'm thinking more of a comical voice for Oliva. While he is a psychopathic murderer, he's also portrayed super comically - the Jeff scene, the delivering-Sikorsky bit, him being dragged around by a finger by Shibukawa. That being said, I kinda think Jouji Nakata could do him justice. I think he's got it in him to do a little jokey-ness.
>>142530702
Almost entirely, I think.
Doppo had the perfect amount of gruffness. Shibukawa sounded exactly like I imagined him in my head. Tokugawa sounded like Tokugawa. Chiharu was beyond perfect.
I would change Yuujiro's VA, and *maybe* Retsu's. Yuujiro didn't sound hostile enough, and Retsu just sounded kinda weird. I think the latter might just be me, though.
>>142531406
I'm not too much into seiyuus, but how about Rikiya Koyama for Yujiro? He can sound a lot more evil than Takamura, as shown in Ushio to Tora.
>>142530253
I think it reflects on the state of the industry that Baki isn't getting any sort of adaption anymore despite it's supposed popularity
Maybe if it was a light novel for "young adults" with cuter girls or a flavour of the month shonen it would have a better chance
>>142532063
Isn't Jojo doing well, though?
>>142516006
At this point who the fuck can even defeat that goddamn gary stu?
>>142531835
Ah yeah, I can totally hear that. He also did Kyros in One Piece; he's totally got the range for Yuujiro.
Now: how do we go about getting the support and funding to make it happen?
>>142532164
It's very old and has a longer legacy and more influence, those kinds of series get a free pass from time to time
It's also easier to digest than Baki, there's a lot more "wacky" humour for example
>>142532219
#1. learn what that means before using it
#2. Motobe, Yuujiro, Baki, Kaku, and Ali
I'm some chapter behind, how did the pickle fight end?
>>142532397
>Jojo
>1986-present
>Baki
>1991-present
That's not much more of a legacy.
>>142532555
It didn't. Pickle didn't even get a say in it, Musashi just got distracted by something shiny and left.
>>142532631
What the fuck, why?
>>142532578
Jojo's is one of the most influential series in Japan period, and that period of 5 years means quite a lot back then
This is beside the point, Jojo is ONE series amid a sea of young adult light novel/visual novel trash and easily consumable battle shonen that dominates an entire medium nowadays. There's a pathetic lack of diversity and risk taking and a very rigid, defined status quo.
>>142532680
Like I said. Musashi got distracted by something shiny and left.
>>142532796
It's not like Baki isn't popular in Japan. It had to be to have gotten an anime adaptation in the first place.
>>142532858
>Like I said
But... but...
>>142516006
Sweet, baki threads are comfy.
>>142534175
Yes they are.
So what other series would you guys recommend for someone who likes Baki? I don't mean necessarily a martial arts one, but with the same kind of over the top, straight-faced ridiculousness.
I think Jojo fits the bill if there's someone who hasn't read it. In fact, I've seen Baki described as "the Jojo of martial arts series" before.
>>142537165
Garouden, both versions
Oyaji
Scarface (baki Gaiden)
Bump to keep baki alive
>>142538381
Oyaji
Family true man
>>142540542
Certainly beats the skinny / pretty boy / shounen boys "gritty" stories.
o cool, thread is still alive
>>142538381
>Scarface (baki Gaiden)
Neither is fully translated, and the adult-Hanayama one has 28 chapters; that's not much of a rec.
Colored Hanayama beating the shit out of Speck just because.
Fuck it, I want this thread to stay alive for a little while longer. Itagaki can browbeat us with Musashi stuff as much as he likes, but that don't mean we can't enjoy the rest of the series.
I really feel sorry for Jack. He's been the punching bag for a long time and I think it's because he's half gaijin so Itagaki won't let him win.
>>142543777
He needs to reinvent himself. Maybe go to the sanctuary of his genesis
>>142543777
He destroyed the Tae Kwon Do guy (I think), Shibukawa, and almost *killed* Baki in Maximum Tournament. He then got to destroy Sikorsky in one of the best fights in the series (and ironically the worst-scanned), and - at least in my opinion - did the best against Pickle.
Nobody else was able to make Pickle back off, and a similar argument about Baki's "victory" against Pickle can be used for Jack's fight against Pickle. If Pickle hadn't used a modern technique, Baki would have won. If Pickle hadn't recognized the threat that Jack represented, he would have died from the unconscious finger-smash thing.
>>142544014
Just what kind of leg training do they do to get abnormally long legs like that?
>>142544014
>Nobody else was able to make Pickle back off
get worked mark
Jack posed no threat to Pickle as a fighter, he just freaked him out by coming back from the dead. "The greatest fuck you of all time" has nothing to do with how strong Jack is
>>142544080
I'm more concerned about how they get bigger calves than quads like in >>142544142
>>142543677
Retsu with weapons is the most entertaining fighter in the series. Makes me extra salty about Musashi, but I remember the good times.
>>142544142
Did you forget, Wisconsonite? Before Jack "returned from the dead" he would have killed Pickle, had Pickle not realized the threat a dead man poses.
>>142544080
Jack and Doyle both have extensive body modifications; Jack's legs are explicitly said to have been elongated. It's never specified for Doyle, but you can pretty much assume it's true. I mean, the faggot has a chest covered in bombs.
>>142538381
>>142540542
Thanks, already read the others but Oyaji looks pretty good.
How about Terra Formars? I ignored the anime, but I remember reading a bit of the manga when it was just starting, and it seemed to have the right mix of ridiculous pseudo-science and over the top violence.
>>142543777
Jack's basically the series Worf at this point, but he has the potential to find his place again. He can still grow by using more technology. If he got as jacked as that doctor guy for example, that would be quite something.
Of course this'll probably never happen at this rate, since the author's content pulling random overpowered people out of his ass. Hopefully Musashi's the last.
>>142544315
Pickle's was just freaked out by this voodoo crazy shit of something dead getting up before remembering how he got poisoned as a kid by a dead animal
>>142544325
Terraformars is pretty fun, good mix of action and actual people dying, though it shares some of that nippon stronk wankery.
>>142544325
Terra Formars completely fell apart; I honestly don't believe it's worth reading anymore. I stuck with it until the part whereJoseph gets decapitated and his skull is bifurcated and he regenerates, but his siblings have to prevent the halves from regenerating into clones of him. That's just too far beyond the realm of "pseudo-science", even for the genre in which it initially tried to plant itself.
Oyaji, on the other hand, is one of the finest short manga you'll ever read. It's not-at-all pseudo-scientific. Some events in it are *improbable*, but not impossible by any means. It's not a manga *about* the violence, despite its immediate prevalence. It's about a tired old man.
>>142516006
ITAGAKI = HACK
>>142544506
which is why I said it's in the same vein as Pickle using a technique: by absolute pure coincidence, Pickle manages to survive and "win".
>>142544607
Jack could have killed Pickle but he performed the worst in the fight desu
>>142544605
Make Musashi look really strong
>>142544685
>performed the worst in the fight
>meanwhile, Katsumi and Retsu
>>142544605
>ITAGAKI = HACK
Now anon, that would be Akira Toriyama.
>>142544909
Retsu could abandon his techniques and not instantly die
Katsumi hurt Pickle
>>142544960
>Retsu could abandon his techniques
>>142545118
I didn't say forever. He could windmill punch Pickle and not get his leg eaten
>>142545140
because Pickle was confused as to why he was windmilling
re-read SoO you nerd
and
>Katsumi hurt Pickle
Katsumi was such a bitch that Pikachu fell asleep
What would redeem Musashi in your eyes?
>>142545373
Pickle fell asleep because there was nothing Katsumi could do to him anymore. He didn't knock him out, but he slapped Pickle around and made him bleed
>>142545379
Imagination guns
>>142545379
Nothing at this point. No character in Baki can be taken seriously and considering how quickly a reincarnated dead guy has risen in the power rankings, he's too far gone down the comedic path than a properly developed character.
>>142545379
It's not that Musashi's a bad character; he's very well-written. To redeem this arc, all you'd need to do is stop this fucking copy/paste single fighter encounter that everyone is having with Musashi.
Every character says roughly the same things; Musashi reacts in the same ways. The only real breaks in the monotony that we've gotten so far are Jack vs Motobe, and Baki and Doppo chatting about his gains. The fact that the Pickle fight didn't even end and essentially just transitioned into yet another c/p'd encounter dropped the arc's value by like 10-15% in my view.
Also - I'm posting the Korean page because the Japanese scan is shittier: right here? Gaia exclaims that it is literally "impossible" (ari enai) for Musashi to have caught the knife when it was launched at him at 38 MPH from a distance of 15 feet. I'm pretty sure you all see the problem here, yes? I don't need to explain it? Good.
where are you niggas getting these scans from only up to 93 is on madokam
>>142545379
Either the same arc ali jr, or...
Not sure honestly. He's just so stupidly powerful to the point where no character is given credit.
I didn't love the Pickle arc, but at least the people who fought him grew massively in order to challenge him. Musashi is just taking names left and right without a sweat. To top it off, hes apparently stronger than Pickle without weapons, which is so far beyond absurd that it hurts.
Maybe if his next few fights give the opponents a bit more credit than poor Retsu, and the fight with Baki is super great.
>>142545660
http://marumaru.in/b/manga/32256
>expecting MK to have anything, much less anything *organized*
ISHYGDDT
>>142545627
>Every character says roughly the same things; Musashi reacts in the same ways. The only real breaks in the monotony that we've gotten so far are Jack vs Motobe, and Baki and Doppo chatting about his gains.
Not sure I agree. Retsu actually died, and Yujiro and Pickle were hype matchups that you couldn't say for sure how they would end. Gaia does feel beyond pointless, though.
I don't see were else can this arc go now other than Baki getting his rematch after Musashi and Motobe finally fight each other, unless they plan to have the whole recurring cast job to those 2 first.
>>142545700
Who's even next to fight?
PEOPLE WHO HAVE DONE THE JOB
>Retsu
>Doppo
>Gaia
>Shibukawa
>Pickle
PEOPLE WHO HAVE INTERACTED WITH MUHSASHI EQUALLY
>Ogre
PEOPLE WHO HAVE JOBBED NOT BUT ARE IN THE TOP ECHELONS
>Memetobe
>Jack
>Che
>Oliva
>Kaku
>Krippletsumi
MID LOW TIER GUYS WHO HAVE NOT DONE THE JOB
>Kosho
>Kureha
>Jyaku
>Dorian
Only the high tier guys are really feasible. Jack was cockblocked from fighting by Memetobe, Motobe is almost definitely going to have a fight with Musashi, Oliva is in prison, Che is on his island, Katsumi is crippled and Kaku doesn't seem like he'd do a fight he knows he can't win
>>142545856
>Retsu actually died... Yujiro and Pickle... you couldn't say for sure how they would end
You're right on that account, but Musashi responds in the same way to virtually every stimulus.
>Hmm...
>So it's like x.
>But can x y?
>Hmm.
>MUN
>MUN
>MUN
>What an interesting technique.
>Z is comparable to this thing in my time.
>Since that is the case, I know how to deal with it.
>MUN
This conversation in chapter 111 goes along these lines:
>Huh, what's that thing you have
>it kinda looks like [historical item], but it's not
>yet it's too small to be a shortsword
>I take it that it's a gun?
And then Gaia gets all sweaty because Musashi figured out that it's a gun.
>>142545934
To be honest Mach imagination punches should be legit amazing on anyone that can actually take damage, but somehow I guess Musashi will just intercept it somehow with psycho cuts or whatever he is doing.
Hopefully memetobe is it, then Baki can imagine being a praying mantis or some shit, and we can can get it over with.
The only remote other possibility I see is Scar Pickle fucking Musashis shit up with muh technique, but... Yeah that isn't happening.
>>142546201
Pickle jobbed way too quick especially when he has a super mode
He should give a better showing against Musashi while at full power, using techniques and knowing about Retsu
>>142545934
Technically Yuujiro won the fight. The match was a draw, but the fight was Yuujiro's.
You'll find this out soon enough, but I'll tell you now anyway: a *warrior's* idea of "the victor" is the one who can first decide whether or not their opponent should live or die. Yuujiro's kick to Musashi's balls was the end of the fight in a sense, but not the end of the match: Yuujiro could easily have just stomped on Musashi while he was rolling around on the ground and killed him. He chose not to do so, because that's not Yuujiro's conception of the winner: he believes that whoever can hold their head higher at the end is the winner. Nonetheless, Motobe and Musashi are warriors. I believe that on some level, Musashi is fervently aware that he lost to Yuujiro.
>>142546402
That would require thinking beyond the box, something which Itagaki do want to do any more.
>>142546459
>That would require thinking beyond the box, something which Itagaki do want to do any more.
The entire final arc of Son of Ogre was as far out-of-the-box as possible.
>>142546459
How is this at all outside the box? It seems pretty typical to me
It's commonish for battle shounen. Like Gaara saving Rock Lee from Kimimaro when Rock Lee was one of the first people to show him it's cool to not be a fag. Retsu was an important person to Pickle and Musashi killed and didn't even eat him
>>142546498
The part with baki making a toy while being smashed into a truck makes me laugh every time.
>>142546760
Exactly. That fight really had so many amazing and unique ideas, themes, leitmotifs running through it. I feel like the Baki series deserves more appreciation and familiarity just based on that fight alone.
>Everyone watching... could you call that glory?
That line always gives me chills.
Nope. Still bored of Musashi now.
>Kimochiiiii
Fuck off.
How many chapters of Tough are there left? can't be much more.
>>142547796
Tough is so darn interesting. The art is incredible too.
>>142537165
Hajime no Ippo
Karate Shoukoushi Kohinata Minoru
Mightiest disciple Kenichi
Tough
Vagabound
Berserk
>>142537165
Hokuto no ken and Souten no Ken too.
>>142546102
but....how much oxygen do Musashi muscles have?
>>142547877
Would you really recommend Vagabond to an entry-level manga consumer who's only read Baki and/or the big three? It seems like a little bit of a leap.
>>142547796
I think there's like 3-5 left, I haven't actually checked with Spiny. That being said, I have some disappointing news re: Tough for those of you who don't want to use his site (and hence miss the mini-blogs):
>And seriously guys … I highly doubt I will do the prequel to this series. I want to do something different. But I will finish this first before I make any final decisions.
I haven't asked him what the "something different" might be, nor has he said anything to any of us; I'll let you guys know if it's something hype-worthy or exciting after I ask.
>>142544943
I know this series is already stupid, with earthquake stopping punches, but this magical brain reaction and awareness is not building the image of a menacing character for me
>>142548099
>I highly doubt I will do the prequel to this series. I want to do something different.
Huh, oh, well, even if I'm disappointed to read that I can understand why.
Now then let's hope that Illuminati-Manga can be bothered to finish it.
>>142547796
Only a few more.Kakugo vs Kiichi here is the final fight of this manga.The last volume was published many years ago.
I kinda like the prequel of this manga where it based on real life martial arts (and real fighters). Now it just about Ki bullshit.
>>142548099
>>142548252
>>142548283
This is a thread from illuminati manga from over one year ago
http://www.illuminati-manga.com/?topic=what-happened-with-tough
>I’d love to, but I don’t have any editors for it. Editors are the people who clean the pages & remove the text. Because Tough is redraw heavy & that includes a lot of difficult redraws, finding someone intetrested in doing it has been difficult.
>If I can find someone to clean it, I’m definitely continuing it.
I guess spiny can feel related to that.
>>142548283
The ki bullshit was on the final fight of part one too, Oton vs Kiryu.
>>142548218
>with earthquake stopping punches
It was immediately retconned by Itagaki. The earthquake may-or-may-not have been stopped by the strike; it may have simply naturally ceased.
The menacing part of Musashi is being intentionally hidden, with occasional hints to the audience. You understand that Musashi is strong - that point is drilled into the reader over and over. But he's played to be jokier than all the other characters - almost like he doesn't care at all - except when he's deadly serious. Itagaki's made it very obvious when Musashi is truly angry: he draws a variation of this exact eye.
I predict that we will see Musashi fully commit to this rage-mode when he's fighting either Baki or Motobe. Most likely, he'll use it as a last resort to win against the latter.
>>142548252
>>142548357
>blah blah redraws, cleaning
Can you post an example or two of what they're referring to? Oni and I may be able to help.
>>142548357
Well, The last vol. was already published in my country so I'm not really bothered with that. Just hope that they will finish their project though.
Anyway, 2012 spinoff manga. Kiryuu looks completely out of character here.
Another Tough manga. Not sure if it's just another spinoff or a direct sequel here.
>>142548541
>filename is tough gaiden
Apply yourself, friend.
>>142548423
I'm not that poster, but if you guys think you can do a collaborative effort I guess you can get in touch with the illuminati group through their forums.A joined effort between the spinyback and illuminati groups would be beyond awesome.
I think they refer to shit like this.
>>142548471
Kiryu cannot be made into a Main Character, how come Saruwatari thought that was a good idea?
>>142548669
That's really not a hard page at all to clean/redraw, provided the typesetter isn't mentally handicapped. It's mostly just simple pattern replacement, which is something they can/should be able to do themselves.
At any rate, I'll look into it further. They might not even have a translator anymore, given the date of the post. I shall find out.
>>142548763
That would be great, I've looked all over the volume 25 raws for tough part 1 and that's the hardest page to clean I've found.
I can upload the raws to a mega account if you want them.
>>142548862
>I can upload the raws to a mega account if you want them
That would be lovely, provided that there isn't somewhere else that I can get them that would require less effort for you. Rather not be a burden.
>>142548905
it's no bother, I'll PM you the link.
>>142548905
>>142548928
It's uploading, all raws from volume 20 up to the final 42.
>>142548928
I'm not Spiny himself; what email are you sending to?
>>142548996To Onepenguin0 in the other forum.
>>142549041
You got it, boss. I really want real Dynamite Glove to come back, though. I figured "Steps are being taken to bring the forums back online" meant like 3 days. ;_;
>>142545934
>Che
Itagaki ditched him, I don't see him coming back for Muh Sashi
>Oliva
Would be great but I don't see it.
>Kaku
Not happening, if Retsu's Xiaolee wasn't enough to stop Muh Sashi Kaku can't do shit even with his nuke fists
>Krippletsumi
Lel
>Kosho
Literally who tier
>Kureha
Didn't he retire? Why would he even want to fight Muh Sashi? I guess his search for the perfect body might let him fight but I still don't see it, and he has to patch up Jack first and give him more Manlet Destroyer power ups.
>Jyaku
He's not coming back, PHG, we all want the Jyaku back but he's not coming.
>Dorian
wat, he's still retarded last time I checked.
I think after Gaia jobs Muh Sashi will get is match with Pickle but with weapons, then Memetobe memes his way in and jobs so Baki can get enough level ups to smash Muh Sashi.
>>142549108
fuck the tab crashed, I'll upload them again, but I gotta go now mate, I'll send them sometime later today.
Does anyone even give a shit about Gaia? He's by far the biggest jobber in the series.
>>142549266
Baki's already finished his training to fight Musashi, though. That's why he was chillin' with Doppo. We don't know what he learned; just that he's now stronger.
>>142549355
>jobber
learn words, /a/
Anyway, I like Gaia. He's one of my favorites.
>>142549352
npbb
>>142549435
sent ;-)
>>142549435
To be fair, Sikorsky got manhandled by Jack before facing Gaia and was on the worst losing streak out of all the convicts, Gaia had it much too easy and even had field advantage.
>>142549579
That doesn't make Gaia not cool/skilled. And everyone seems to think that Jack had an easy time fighting Sikorsky - if you look here, he clearly did not. He's not half-dead, but the fight seems to have taken a decent toll on him.
>>142549628
>That doesn't make Gaia not cool/skilled.
I don't like Gaia too much so I won't comment on him being cool or not, but he's not as skilled as you think since his only win was against a weakened Sikorsky of all people, and he's way too reliant on his environment gimmick and not even as skilled as the Meme Master when it comes to weaponry or even basic martial arts.
Then again, he's a nice character to have around, much better than Pickle or Muh Sashi for sure.
>And everyone seems to think that Jack had an easy time fighting Sikorsky
He did?
Sikorsky just got a few small hits in but Jack absolutely destroyed him, it wasn't a one sided slaughter like Jack vs Ali Jr. but he hardly broke a sweat against Sikorsky, and again, Sikorsky was the unluckiest convict by far in terms of matchups, if he fought Jack first he would have probably put up a better fight.
>>142549628
Gaia was introduced as an interesting character, I really like his concept and theme, but after a 13 year old baki defeated him, he kind of lost any respect he could create.
It would have been better if gaia had stopped at some point recognizing baki skill for being 13 year old but that he wasn't willing to kill hi yet as he had still time and space to grow more or some shit.
I don't know how will he redeem himself after 1) being memetobe's student (let's remember that he was "a rival to the ogre") and 2) getting wrecked by Musashi.
>>142549776
>Sikorsky was the unluckiest convict by far in terms of matchups, if he fought Jack first he would have probably put up a better fight.
Agreed and agreed. That's part of why I want him to come back, but I know it'll never happen. There's no reason for any of the convicts to come back. ;_;
>>142549820
>There's no reason for any of the convicts to come back. ;_;
The problem is none of them can come back besides, ironically, Sikorsky.
Yanagi and Speck straight up died, Dorian is retarded, Doyle either died after Oliva hugged him up good or he's incapacitate for life, that leaves us with a severely traumatized Sikorsky.
>>142549803
>let's remember that he was "a rival to the ogre"
That's the thing; his title was intentionally misleading (to the reader). He was the second best *at warfare*. Not the second strongest fighter. None of the guys like Oliva, Che, Kaku, etc have any real military training or tactical knowledge that Gaia does.
I just think that he has to have some sort of power boost if Motobe had one. If old Motobe could teach a student to become Childhood Arc Gaia-tier, new Motobe should have Gaia at a respectively powerful level yet, so far, we haven't seen anything new or unpredictable.
>>142549921
Yeah, Musashi is just laughing at him and at his lame attempt at sneaking on him.
>>142549886
That's why in the theatre of my mind, Sikorsky comes back and fights Musashi: they both have super-strong, indestructible fingers that they use to cut people. I think it'd be very-much in Baki form to see earth-splitting hand-swords clashing against other hand-swords.
Plus, I think Sikorsky would have been the most brvtal convict had he not gotten the most unfair match-ups. The scene in my pic here always revives my love for the guy; he really represented what the convicts were supposed to be at first imo. Just evil, 'lawless' strong guys who'll crush your skull with a barbell without a second thought.
>>142550022
>I think Sikorsky would have been the most brvtal convict
Speck faaaaar outclassed him when it comes to brutality, same with Dorian.
But yeah, he really got a terrible series of matchups and didn't get time to shine like Dorian or Doyle did.
>>142550093
I'll give you Speck, but I don't agree with Dorian being above Sikorsky. Dorian was all weapons, tricks and lights without any real intelligence or super physical strength to back it up. He essentially openly admitted that he would have died had the Shinshinkai army just decided to kill him instead of fighting him "honorably" and walked away, whereas Speck or Sikorsky might have just pull out a gun and start shooting the guys.
>>142516181
>>142516181
>I wonder if we'll have something about Ali in Baki now that he died IRL
We didn't get anything in particular when Oliva died in 2012.
>>142544553What? He and Eva have the same operation, you know.
>>142542385
Amazing art
>>142550022
at the start they reminded me at this guy on garouden, can't recall his name right now, the one who was attacking with a hoodie.
>>142554282
>this guy on garouden,
>can't recall his name right now,
Not surprising
>>142556320
well yeah, but I'm sure you know who I mean.
He could bench press 500kg or some shit like that.
Is there anything better than the early convict arc? Almost every memorable fight happened then. The rest of the series afterwards hasn't been half as interesting, except for imagination katsumi.
>>142557089
the chinese tournament.
>>142545934
when did doppo job?
>>142557089
I recently finished reading everything except the side stories and I think the father and son arc of SoO was the most entertaining part. The whole "it's just a family quarrel" thing was just amazing and Yujiro antics are always top-tier. But I found everything pretty entertaining so take that as you will.
On an unrelated note, it's great how this manga makes you love all of the characters by the end of it.
>>142557998
Right before Baki I think, he got oneshotted.
I can't even tell if this is a mistranslation or if the author really is that much of a goofball.
Or if it really was SCORPION all along.
>You represented humble black people and for the wounded country of Vietnam
>You have my respect
AHAHAHA WHAT?
This feels so fucking out of place.
And then this happens and it's WAY more in character.
Yuujiro is a giant fucking baby who wants to fight. Not some guy who gives a fuck about activists or how the world works.
Just Itagaki inserting his views and using him as a mouthpiece. It's hard to believe a series this manly is made by a leftist.
>>142560192
Creating a Manly™ series and being a leftist aren't exclusive. Please keep /pol/ in /pol/, just for the sake of this thread if you can.
>>142559430
>>142560081
You're not giving Yujiro enough credit. He lives by the law of the strong but he does not disrespect the weaks as long as they fear him and they put up with his shit. Like when he went to met Pickle for the first time and he commended the guards for starting beating up themselves.
Man, I can't believe that Tough is coming to an end.
>>142560192
Itagaki isn't really a leftist though,he also was probably misinformed about the whole social issues that America faced during the 60's and 70's.
If anythign Itagaki is a Japanese nationalist just look how hard he made Jack job to Memetobe.
>>142562956
Itagooki was in the SDF
>>142562956
I wasn't talking just about that (in fact, I agree Vietnam was a dumb war), but the glorifying of "fighting for the weak", and the fact that he seems to like Che Guevara. Not only because he made him a character, but he has also drawn a couple of chapter covers with Baki referencing this image. Also, compare how he depicts Bush and Obama.
>>142560558
Same way you don't have to be from /pol/ to be aware the left doesn't tend to value personal strength. I don't think it's off topic to discuss the author's personal views he inserts into his manga.
>>142560192
what's wrong with being a leftie? it's not like uncontrolled capitalism and financial groups are destroying the planet and making people live in misery or anything.
>>142564253
If anything every sort of institution is the enemy to the people, no matter if they're on the left, right or center of the spectrum.
>>142564163
I am just not a fan of the idea that political ideology should/can be discussed in works of art unless it's the central theme of the discussion.
It will always eventually devolve into bipartisan shit flinging.
>>142564600
>If anything every sort of institution is the enemy to the people, no matter if they're on the left, right or center of the spectrum.
Anarchy! I like that, but it's the most difficult to achieve.
