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Cornucopia of Resources / Guide
Read the guide before asking questions.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1pKgBm8Aa58mjB1hYhbK-VOPZsRBTXBuPBzw8Xikm2ss/pub?embedded=true

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>>142420093
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おそっ
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Why's Anki so SLOW at uploading media?
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>>142472938
Because your internet connection is slow at uploading media. Amazing, I know, right?
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初心者なら諦めて
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おはよう
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>>142473303
撫でたい
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みんな死ねばいいのに
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>>142473551
>I can write some generic anime lines, everyone look at me
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>>142473551
It'd be best if only you did.
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Why's doing your reps through ankiweb so much more fun that using the client?
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>>142473551
はい、アノン様
*刀を抜き放っています*
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>>142472960
It's not this bloody slow, though. My real upload speed should be like a meg a second, but I'm getting less than a quarter of that.
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>>142474237
1 Mbps = 0.125 MBps
<1/4 ww
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>>142474398
It's 10 megabits, actually.
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>>142474490
Slower than I though
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>>142474867
Fucking fight me.
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>>142473695
みんな日本であればいいのに
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>>142475169
われわれわわ人
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If you can read this, you understand Japanese.

私は日本料理が大好きです。特にすき焼きや焼き鳥が好きです。国では日本料理は安くないから、あまり食べられませんでした。今、毎日食べられるので、とても嬉しいです。日本にはめずらしい食べ物がたくさんあります。国では、うめぼし、のりなどを見たことも聞いたこともありませんでした。私はめずらしい物に興味があるので、おいしそうな食べ物は、なんでも食べてみます。

ある日、ホストファミリーと晩ご飯を食べに行きました。なべの中に野菜や肉がたくさんありました。私は「これは何の肉?鳥の肉?」とききました。お父さんは「食べてみて。おいしいから」と言いました。「どう?おいしい?」「はい、とてtも。でも、何ですか?」みんなはニヤニヤして、何も言いません。私はちょっと不安になりました。でも、おなかがすいていたし、おいしかったので、たくさん食べました。「ごちそうさま」「エイミーさん、実は、これはすっぽんですよ」「すっぽん?」「すっぽんはかめです」「えっ!。。。」私は気分が悪くなりました。お父さんはすっぽんは体によくて、高い食べ物だと言っていました。

これは一生に一度のとてもおもしろい経験でした。国に帰って、友だちに「かめを食べたことがある」と言えます。かめはおいしかったです。でも、やっぱり、もうかめをたべたくありません。
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>>142476316
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>>142476316
I just read the first few sentences but is this supposed to be hard?
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>>142476742
>all these rare kanjis
>not hard
mining every third word here
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>>142476742
About as easy as your mom.
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>it's a 沼田くん episode
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I don't want to do my reps, they are waiting for me...
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>>142477108
i hated those ones
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>>142477108
I'll take 下 over 受 and 出 words any day of the week
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>>142477108
>Core

Not even once
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>>142477478
>not doing the most efficient way of memorizing basic vocab
Why
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>>142477693
Can't imagine core is the most efficient way, just the most common one

The fact that it throws all those 下 words at you at once is just one of the ways that it's definitely not the most efficient
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>>142476316
If you can read this you might be able to pass N3
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どんな人だと思いますか。
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>>142477896
I'd rather see all of them at once than getting confused by them later. They're extremely common so it isn't that hard to get down.

Just curious what do you think is more efficient?
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>>142477963
I actually got it from my Genki II pack. I just wanted beginners to feel good.
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>>142478017
Not that guy but, personally I only memorized their readings based on the okurigana but I'm not sure I really know the meanings of all the individual 上/下 words, probably because it did throw them all at once at me.
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>>142476316
i can't believe i used to think this would be the hardest thing i would ever have to read when i first saw it. ったく

>>142478015
she looks very 元気 if i do say so myself
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>>142478017
It's seeing them all at once that causes confusion, seeing them separately gives you a much easier time differentiating the meanings

And I'm not sure of any alternatives, I just assume core can't possible be "the most efficient", it's a fine option for sure, but it could be done better
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>>142478193
There might be some things that need fixing up like that, but I really doubt there's some other method that is as fast. You can probably learn the words that didn't stick later by reading anyways.
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Quick question. What does this mean? I've never seen it in text and I don't know how to type it to google it.
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>>142478193
In the core before 2K / 6k all of those words were separated apart.

下がった was supposed to be the 1003rd word.
下ろす the 1405
下げる 919

I think they just combined them all so it could be convenient matching the kanji.
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>>142478379
are you a moron
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>>142478379
Google translate has a draw feature
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>>142478405
>罪
How did you do that? But thank you.
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>>142478498
you didn't know? the emperor of japanese often shitposts in these threads
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>>142478498
Magic
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>>142478722
stop it only hacks use that garbage

all i did was type out 犯罪 and erase the 犯 because i forgot the reading of 罪

either draw your kanji in google translate or remember an easy word that uses it
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This is written after a characters name, can someone help me out, here? Is it refering to the age?
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>>142478869
It's a contraction of the word 合法鳥, kind of like the word "cuck" in English.
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>>142478722
I don't even know how to begin looking at that. I know nothing about Japanese I just wanted to know what that character meant, and now I do, so thank you.

Also didn't know about the draw feature, I'll bear that in mind next time. Thanks anons.
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>>142478920
wwww
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>>142478851
Obviously I know about a million words that use 罪, including just the word "罪", but that guy obviously didn't, so radicals or drawing it on google translate are the only things he could have done, you smart ass
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>>142478920
Isn't that like a really obscure meaning? I thought it was refering to legal age.
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Do you guys think if the revised core deck had the original word list, but removed all the filler stuff it would be much better?
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>>142478920
xD
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>>142479066
Filler stuff as in katakana? Just delete easy cards when you stumble upon them, that's what I do.
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>>142478131
>I only memorized their readings based on the okurigana
How else would you recognize them if not by okurigana? Subtle oscillations between radical particles?
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>>142478920
Really?

>>142479043
That's also what I though.
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>>142478869
not helping you, you pedophile
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>>142479025
radical search is for dirty anki users who don't know proper stroke order
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>>142479196
But you can learn stroke order with anki too anon, most kanji decks have it included.
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>>142476316
What's wrong with eating turtles?
She's totally fine with eating delicious chicken, but eat a delicious turtle and she suddenly feels bad?

I actually expected this pasta to go off the rails and have a gory punchline, what a disappointment.
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>>142479172
She is actually 20+, sir.
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>>142479196
You don't even need to know stroke order to draw shit on google translate, hell you don't even need to draw most of the strokes for it to get it, it's obviously the more casual choice

I only use radical search because I pretty much always have jisho open so it's just easier, not that I ever have to use it anyway because I can pretty much always think of at least one word that has the kanji I'm looking for in
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Just popped into say I'm so fresh you can suck my nuts.
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>>142479196
>writefags cling to this bullshit because it makes their skill at least slightly relevant
Tragic.
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>>142479196
>autism
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>>142479363
Oh, ok then my bad.
Go along.
Most likely 合法 is referring to the age in this case
>Anonymous (17)
>Anonymous (不合法)
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>>142479576
ぼく???
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>>142479394
>3000
ふふ、未だ未だ。 
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>>142479394
Mirin here, senpai.
Show the full one.
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>>142479576
Ah, I see. thank you!
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>>142479576
Thanks, have this in return.
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>>142479786
Enjoy your ban :^)
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ABANDON ALL HOPE
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>>142479974
Will consider
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>>142479523
>idiots who haven't touched a pencil to paper in years think their abstinence is something to laud over those who spent a good 10 minutes in their lifetime learning what direction the lines are supposed to go
calamitous
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>>142480043
>calamitous
Deep and salubrious
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Can someone translate this for me real quick? Thanks a lot.
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>>142480197
"My name is Ted Cruz and I murdered those women."

It's just that over and over again... Where did you get this?
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>>142480197
>I murdered those women
what did he mean by this? you have something very important.

>>142479974
this gives me motivation
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>>142480197
I see 十一中く玉口回丁

Maybe a 長
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>裏本
>裏

The radical at the bottom is hard to distinguish. Anki's font size hasn't prepared me for this.
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>>142479130
No, the filler is because they want you to do a card 4 to 5 times in the original deck. They want you to memorize by picture, sentence, voice and word. That's too much stuff just for one word.
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>>142480043
I know the order and it's completely useless. Radical search is better than google translate in every way. I haven't ever found any use to my ability to write and I want my "10 minutes" back.
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>>142478851
>garbage
But it's so simple. And fuck drawing with a mouse.
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>>142480777
>fuck drawing with a mouse
it's not like you need to be accurate
it would have taken me longer to pick out the radicals from the menu
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>>142481143
wait, let's get a zoom on that...

it's happening
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>ジレンマ

Oh come on
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>>142481221
what's the problem?
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>>142480672
i don't know about that 相棒
it's come in handy plenty for me

since my experience tells me you're one hundred percent wrong i guess i'll keep feeling satisfied in my ability to scribble chinese logograms efficiently
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>>142481269
It doesn't sound anything like the English word?
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>>142481079
>it would have taken me longer to pick out the radicals from the menu
What the hell, picking radicals is like 2 clicks.
Don't tell me you learned how to write but can't count strokes
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>>142480660
The deck in Core doesn't have so many card types. Anyway, deleting some card types takes literally under 1 minute. Are you retarded?
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>>142472815
>get hospitalized for a month
>2500 reps waiting
fuck
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>>142481339
And what's wrong with that?
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>>142481339
but it does
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>>142481517
ジ =/= ヂ
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>>142481339
Do you complain about French or Latin words in English too?
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>>142481432
>病院

きゃああああああ!大丈夫ですか!?
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>>142481560
those are indistinguishable in certain words so I think you're looking for ディ

either way ジレンマ sounds similar enough to "dilemma" that you shouldn't have trouble seeing where it comes from
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>>142481560
>ジ =/= ヂ
This epic meme again
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>>142481432
>not doing your reps in the hospital
Inexcusable, unless you were in a coma.
Hell, I was looking forward to doing my reps every day in hospital since I was bored out of my mind most of the time there.
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Anybody happen to be doing Kendo, Kenjutsu or some other form of martial art? Do you let your teacher know that you're learning japanese, or is that immediately going to put you into the weeaboo corner?
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>>142481726
most likely in the weeb corner
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Note to the reading list maintainer, if you're around.

I'm re-organising the reading list by difficulty so please don't think I'm trying to graffiti it or whatever and undo my edits.
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>>142481726
You can't mention that you're learning Japanese in any situation in life without instantly getting the weeb treatment
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>>142481726
"Learning" Japanese sounds retarded. It will always put you into the weeb corner no matter the circumstances. The trick is to let no one know until you can comfortably say you speak Japanese. "Knowing" Japanese, that's something you can tell people.
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>>142481935
"Knowing Japanese" is still gunna get you the weeb treatment most of the time
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>>142482052
not if you are Japanese ;_;
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i wonder what flyover american state you have to live in and which year of high school you have to be in
and how few people you need to have talked to in your lifetime so that you can believe in the abstract concept of the "weeb treatment"
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>>142482052
Sometimes, but most people aren't even aware of what weebs are. I'd say as long as you're not some weirdo knowing Japanese is a pretty legit achievement for a westerner.
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>>142482187
True, it's all about the character of the person really
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>>142482175
Yeah, the anime fan base totally doesn't carry a social stigma around everywhere it goes.
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>>142482240
In Argentina I don't really see people knowing what anime is.
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>>142481872
>>142481935
>>142482052

w-what if I say that I'm learning modern japanese because I want to learn classical japanese for historical interest
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>>142482296
Latin america doesn't count, all they know is CCS, Dragon Ball, Naruto and Saint Seiya
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>>142482240
The "stigma" only works on you of you look the part.
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美人薄命

I love 四字熟語
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>>142479310
Turtles are going extinct senpai.
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>>142482052
Not if you speak 3 other languages like I do.
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Man it sure is easy to just get completely sucked into VNs, no wonder my gains have been so slow after avoiding playing these for so long
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>>142482458
If they're so tasty and healthy why don't Japs breed them for food?
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>>142482296
You should show them and watch their open minded reactions then.
Not even trying to sound edgy, even non moe anime instantly puts off most people. Same with manga and VN.

>>142482331
Sounds fine actually.

>>142482342
Would you tell people you know that you watch anime as a hobby the same way you'd tell them you're a music enthusiast? If your answer is anything other than a flat yes you're wrong with your statement man
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>贔屓目

Pretty nice looking word, maybe not in this font though
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>>142482670
>You should show them and watch their open minded reactions then.
They might not know what it is but I'm not going to risk it either :^)
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>>142482670
>Would you tell people you know that you watch anime as a hobby the same way you'd tell them you're a music enthusiast?
Well, I openly read LNs and manga at work so I guess, yeah.
The only shit I would actually hide is loli related things, now that's the secret you protect with your fucking life.
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>>142482976
>not hiding your power level
i shig my dig
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>>142483024
It's only as autistic as you make it, reading shit like LNs and some manga in public is pretty normal
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>>142483024
Sorry, just can't bring myself to waste all those hours watching bullshit on youtube like my coworkers when I could read more.
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>>142481855
Aaand done.
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>>142483344
お疲れ様~
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>>142483199
Sometimes if I like an LN I buy a second copy and rip out the pictures so I can read it in public without shame.
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Does anyone have any idea how to translate マス間隔? I feel like I've grasped the general meaning after reading a few sentences, but I still have no idea what would be a good translation.

Here's two of the example sentences I've found.

道に一マス間隔で穴ほこが空いてても

Excelで1マス間隔で消したいのですが
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>>142483557
>Excelで1マス間隔で消したいのですが

A cell.
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>>142477963
Is this really N3 level? Seems too easy to be N3.
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ちゅうがくせい are the best
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>>142483666
N3 is a joke.
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>>142483199
No shit reading LNs is normal, people wouldn't even know what it is just by seeing the letters and if it's in Japanese it'd be a great conversation starter.
But anon, don't make it obvious that you're reading manga when outside. Maybe anime has distorted your view of reality, but that's not the reputation you want in a work environment.

Remember this isn't about autistically hiding your interests out of fear of a social stigma you lack the confidence for dealing with or something, this is about actually going out there and letting people know of it.
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>>142483712
I was under the assumption N3 is when things start to actually get interesting. I'm apparently at N4 -> N3 level.
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>>142483715
Not him but I see a shitload of people who don't even remotely give off a weeb vibe reading manga outside on their laptop

Not sure if reading LNs is normal though; the cover and illustrations can be huge giveaways
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>>142483710
Pretty sure Anko is 小
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>>142483710
That's not how you spell しょう
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>>142483715

This desu. A lot of people say "I hide that I watch anime from my friends" which is fucking stupid, if you have actual friends they won't give a shit. "Hiding your powerlevel" can easily be taken too far, as long as you don't look or act like an autist no one will care that you like this stuff. That being said, though, you do not want to get the reputation as the "anime guy" so be careful with what you put out as your image.
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>normie problems

This is why you shouldn't have friends
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>>142483949
>"Hiding your powerlevel" can easily be taken too far,

Stop trolling lurkers faggot.
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>be neet with zero human interaction
>hide your power level to the absolute
There are no other options.
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>>142484225
im pretty sure that even if you do interact with someone outside of your mother, they would assume you like anime because thats how much of a dork you are
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>>142484358
>implying they wouldnt fall for the mlp and pokemon falseflags before that
my power level is hidden behind 7 proxies
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>>142476742
>>142477963
>>142478171
>look at me, look at who good I am
You're no better than the anon posting random text with vague challenges, just less self aware.
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>>142481872
So what? You're learning a new language. I don't care what the motivation is, you're still improving yourself.
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>>142484727
>look at me, look at how i figured these anons out
and for that you replied to 2 hour old posts lmao youre such a clown
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>>142484736
Tell that to the "people learned the moon runes for THIS" faggots in these very threads
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>>142484736
>you're still improving yourself.

How is learning a new language improving yourself in any meaningful way?
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>>142484836
Dude those are djt regulars baiting the 新人
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>>142484885
>not "learning a new language wont increase your low IQ"
way to break character
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>>142484836
As you said, those guys are just faggots. If they want to hang on to that crab mentality, then let them. Just don't let them get to you.
>>142484885
Opens new doors, new people to communicate with, rising to a challenge, and committing yourself. There can be some economic opportunity, if you're willing.
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>makes sure to add "any meaningful way" for damage control
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>>142484885
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>reading when you could just be watching anime
enjoy having shit listening comprehension
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>>142484727
>You're no better than the anon posting random text with vague challenges, just less self aware.

おい...お-お前は..
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>>142484727
>butthurt because he couldn't read the japanese passage
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だったらそれはいいけど
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>>142484885
Getting the JLPT N1 has a few perks. Also the amount of practice required should lead to better study habits/time management if you haven't achieved that level of self control already.
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>>142483710
>>142483869
>>142483940
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>went through 52 episodes of anime in two days
Help, I need more anime
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>>142487205
Cory in the House
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>>142487205
Watch them again with English subs so that you can understand it this time
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>>142487157
whats this from?
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>>142487157
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>>142487205
What show?
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>>142487297
It was hardsubbed so already had English subs

>>142487367
Capeta
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>>142487157
kekょく
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>>142487397
>hardsubbed

this thread is going way off track
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>>142487651
Sadly lots of anime is hardsubbed these days
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If I start taking JCat, can I stop and resume it later?

In the email, it sounded like I could only take it once.
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By what rationale is the Core 2k/6k optimized jap vocab deck ordered? Most used or useful words?

Also, why is it core 2k/6k if there is 6000 words? Why 2k?
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>>142487651
Anime is for casuals now, it's probably easier to hardsub things than to deal with complaints from people who can't figure out how to change subtitles and assume that everything will "just work."
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>>142487843
No.

You can only take it once ever 6 months. You could technically sign up with a new email before that, but even taking it less than a year apart would pretty much be cheating since you might remember a couple of the questions.
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>>142487990
not ordered in any reasonable way
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>>142488040
About how long does the test take to complete? Is there a time limit?
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>>142488188
up to a couple hours
the questions themselves are timed
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>>142488132
Nice!
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>>142488188
Took like an hour for me, more than half of it spent on the listening part
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Are you bad enough dude to read Mareni and understand him?

(This screenshot is super easy as far as Mareni goes. Is something stumps you there, I'm interested in hearing what.)
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>>142487990
It's ordered optimally.
Also it's 2k/6k because there are 2k words and then a further 4k words to make 6k.
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>>142488473
I gave up on trying to read the window title
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>>142488520
霞外籠逗留記

At least 逗留 is a normal word.
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>>142488473
About how many hours of studying would it take me to beable to read this?
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>>142488634
Dunno.
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How's the Remembering the Kana guide and that video thing (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EKh9MQOaZ7I&index=1&list=PL2A25F7399E8805ED) for learning Kana?

I remember it being in the old guide, but it's not in the new one
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>>142488709
just drill them for a couple hours on realkana
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>>142488709
Why do you even need anything to remember kana? Just do it.
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Is it true that katakana came from kanji?
Some of the examples are really stretching it.
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>>142488709
Realkana nig
Learning the kana is probably .1% of the effort it takes to git gud at moons
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>>142488634
That screenshot is almost normal writing instead of Mareni's usual autismal shit so it's probably doable after 20 or so VNs
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>>142487843
That shit is serious stuff.
If you die in Jcat you die in real life.
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>>142488764
>>142488765
>>142488882
Alright, drilling would probably be faster.
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>>142488862
>Is it true that katakana came from kanji?

Yes.
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並じゃビビってここまで書けない.
what's the meaning of "じゃ" in this context?
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>>142489004
では just like every other time
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>>142487990
It's ordered so that words using the same kanji are grouped together. I personally don't think this is "optimal" because it often results in you getting many similar words in a row, making it very easy to get muddled up.
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can someone screenshot their core deck template layout? i kinda fucked mine up but i'm not sure how. i just wanna go back to default
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>>142489041
Yeah, I've got a bunch of words with 表 with similar (english) definitions and it's fucking me up pretty bad.
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>>142488709
I used a PDF of the book and it was fine. Use it if you like mnemonics. It doesn't really matter when any efficiency difference is going to be a few hours at most.

It's also still listed in the resources section of the current guide.
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>>142489063
never mind i fixed i'm an idiot
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>>142488473
This was fairly easy. There were 2 or 3 words I couldn't read, but context and/or kanji made the meaning obvious.
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>>142488473
Aside from having no clue how to pronounce 築宮 and 司書 was able to read it if without much problem, only had to look up 窃視.

>>142488634
Like a year.

>>142488891
Maybe for the whole VN itself, but what exactly would I need 20 VNs for in this screenshot?
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So is Yotsubato generally the first reading material that beginners attempt? At what point? I'm 1500 words into core 2k/6k (that number is young and mature combined), and most of the way through tae kim. Is now a good time to start?
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>>142489609
yotsuba is overrated, go read some moege VN so you can at least texthook. voices help a ton too.
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>>142489609
>I'm 1500 words into core 2k/6k
what the hell? you should have been reading a long time ago. yes, start. and don't stop
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>>142489609
i started around there but i also bought the reading pack or whatever for ten bucks, helped out a lot on the vocab i hadnt yet covered in core

if you're mostly through TK then consider it a reward for your efforts since yotsuba is the wonder child fuuka best girl
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>>142489609
Not only is yotsuba overrated, it's actually boring trash.
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>>142489609
>I'm 1500 words into core 2k/6k
At 1500 words I started reading LNs. But then again I finished tae kim long before that, what the fuck is taking you so long? Finish that fucker and start reading.
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>>142489795
>bought the reading pack or whatever for ten bucks

What hahaha? The reading pack is free.
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>>142489770
Don't blame him. The guide now tells people that they should have finished at least Core2K before they start reading.
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>>142489849
after literally spending 0 dollars on learning this much since i will never own an apple product for buying anki, it wasnt a hard choice anon
if you cant afford that much, i understand :^)
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Still confused of what na-adj are
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>>142489923
>if you cant afford that much, i understand :^)
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>>142489838
I'm lazy, it's a lot easier to grind anki than read and understand grammatical literature. I think I'll tone back my new words per day so I can free up some time to wrap up TK. I want to get over that hurdle so I can start reading and perhaps make studying fun and more rewarding than flashcards.
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>>142489609
Any time is a good time to start. Vocabulary doesn't really matter when you read anyway since you can just look words up in a dictionary, and nothing in yotsuba should be hard grammar wise. In fact it might even be a waste of time since there's little it can teach you that you won't pick up from listening to cartoons, other than sharpen your reading speed a little. It's a nice manga though.

I ended up dropping it and starting an LN instead since it exposes me to more complex sentences, though that's because I had put off doing any actual reading for half a year before then and yotsuba was below my level.

Also it doesn't seem right that you have 1500 cards while only being "most" of the way through Tae Kim. That should really have been something you finished probably before you even started anki.
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Should I watch all of tae kim then go for anki?
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>>142490170
watch?

ESL get off my website
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>>142489951
Adjectives that aren't regularly conjugatable natively Japanese kunyomi words that end in things like-i/-shii, but rather unconjugatable onyomi compounds that need "na" as an auxiliary particle suffix to make their adjective status clear when put before words. An exception would be kunyomi adjectives ending in -ka/-yaka, as they're na adjectives too due to being relatively rare in modern standard Japanese.
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>>142489951
just nouns that you put な on to make them adjectives
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>>142490219
Sorry, I don't think I've registered at your website in the first place.
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>>142490170
tae kim's videos don't even go as far as to introduce verbs to the mix so you can't "watch" all of tae kim

you should read his grammar guide though yes
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>tfw posting in the same thread as anki-drones
i feel unsafe. d-do you think they know there is actual japanese outside of that program?

>>142490106
きゃああ!行かなきゃ
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>>142490326
mad af
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>>142490326
What is japanese? I do know a lot of words made up by funny squiggles, but I don't know what to do with 'em.
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>>142490326
>d-do you think they know there is actual japanese outside of that program?
Where do you think I find words to make my cards from? I need like 2 hours of reading to mine my daily quota.
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>>142490326
>do you think they know there is actual japanese outside of that program?
There's a way to learn Japanese outside flash cards?
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>>142490106
if tae kim still looks like a hurdle to you after a couple months then you have a lot more in store for you than you think
he teaches foundational grammar, not reading comprehension

>grammatical literature
what did he mean by this
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>>142489881
Core2k only takes like a month to finish.
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>>142490534
2000 cards / 20 cards a day = 100 days (over 3 months) to complete
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>>142490534
2000/30=66.7
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>>142490534
on earth a month is about 30 days, my 宇宙人
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>>142490433
all we know so far is that they are runes that fell from the moon and landed on that island. nobody really knows what they are
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>>142490534
baka baka baaaaakaaaaaaa
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>>142490534
Correct, assuming you're planning on burning out after a month and never learning Japanese.
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>>142490666
Does anybody actually speak "Japanese"?
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>>142490756
There is the legend of a man known as "Tudigirus Arudabesuto" who managed to control this language with an mysterious forgotten art of "Mo-ujitsu"
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>恐竜 = dinosaurs
What? The actual dragons are scarier than dinos
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Came across a proverb in the A Dictionary of Advanced Japanese Grammar that sounds so much better than the Chinese version of the time.
Chinese:
心不在焉、視而不見、聴而不聞、食而不知其味。
Japanese:
心焉に在らざれば、視れども見えず、聴けども聞こえず、食らえども其の味を知らず。
I know Chinese history has a lot of poetry and the like, of which a lot of is famous for being referenced in Japanese verse, but fuck me the Chinese poetry these older Japanese poets regarded as valuable sound like complete shit compared to the Japanese verse which was inspired from it. Even Chinese proverbs sound better as a monged English translation than they do in the original language.

Apparently ど was used in a similar way in older Japanese to how ば is used in modern Japanese, which is kind of neat. Are there any anons here with experience with 古典? I'm still a long way away but various phrases and idioms with roots in classical Japanese pop up here and there in manga and it sounds kind of neat.

>>142481339
That's because Japanese isn't English.
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>>142490753
It's only 66 words a day for 30 days, which is fuck off if the anon is only using Anki for vocab, which seems to be a pretty popular trend.
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>>142491923
You'd burn out by the time a month was over if you did anki for that long every day.
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>>142491851
I read this part of the book less than an hour ago. It was Confucius, right?
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Who decided it would be a good idea to create kanji?
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>>142491851
What the fuck is 心焉
>Even Chinese proverbs sound better as a monged English translation than they do in the original language.
Everything sounds like shit in chinese.
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>>142492096
Speak for yourself.
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>>142492187
ask the chinese
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>>142492187
Who decided it would be a good idea to copy kanji?
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>>142489881
This is the worst advice I've ever heard in my life.

Maybe we should just link to the old guide at https://docs.google.com/document/d/1G5C7fCe07CDzYalZYZObzxv_fhw7RUNsLHiMAY-t7FA/edit instead of the crappy new guide if it's going to give awful advice like this.
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