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Lets take a trip back to 2004.
>>141234019
This better be the banner for the Steam release.
>>141234019
>Original trilgoy anime never
>mfw
>>141234203
With age's track record, that's not exactly a bad thing.
>heard TDA a lot of these threads
>started TDA 00 2 days ago
>currently on pic related
fuck i shouldn't have been fooled by that happy 'ish bullshit
I think i want off this ride now
>>141234491
But Anon, you'll get cute delusions about Marimo, badass kills and eventually Kurogane, what more could you wish for?
>>141234623
these threads lied to me, i cant see based Will die :_:
>>141234713
Kouki Wills it.
>>141234713
There is a reason so many said he was best
boy Anon. He died a worthy death.Well Superior-kun had other plans, but we don't notice 'till TDA 03.
>>141234713
>>141234775
>>141234844
gonna continue it now
wish me luck
>>141235015
God speed anon
>>141235015
Don't you dare get cold feet brother.
Please no
>>141235823
Will you lying fuck..your TSF's leg was the only thing that got hit not your jump unit. :_;
>>141236012
>Press F to pay respects
>>141236012
This fucking track that is playing while they do this shit covering for Lilia....
>>141236203
>OP plays
:_;7
You glorious bastards
I actually kind of like the black and white pictures in BiS. The whole thing is framed as Beatrix looking through Jurgen's stasi record, so the black and white pics actually kind of add to things.Still would've really wanted colored pics though.
>>141237019
>>141236594
Well I am sold with TDA
gonna be reading this for the whole week i should have done this earlier..its gonna be slow reading the untranslated ones but ..i shall endure.
I do believe we've actually lost some healanon posts here and there; there's a few from the last couple threads that aren't in the big doc. Anyone else notice this?
>>141238398
Well maybe he hasn't put them in yet
>>141234019
then you need the ahoge window image and nothing in the subject field
>>141236073
III MEF A BEST UNIT
LEJEUNE BABBIES AND PENDLETARDS CAN SUCK A DICK
Meiyaa shit.Chizurubest girl.Extrabest Muv Luv.
Inia, Cryska and Yui are my waifus.
Alright, I'm back with more HD images. This is for the Gretelfags out there.
>>141240675
And here's one for the Phamfag.
>>141240813
Where is everybody?
>>141241183
Lurkin and enjoying the show. Thanks for the uploads
>>141241030
BTW, the traitor chick, Kaja, is the cute black haired girl in the back.
Irena (イレナ) is the one holding the dead girl's hands.
If only they'd taken Kaja up on her offer instead of trying to face the BETA and the rebels.
>>141241333
>>141241115
All good friend. Despair comes with the territory.
>>141241468
Inghilde's story is pretty funny with a very sharp turn towards tragedy at the end. For the longest time (since she was 7-8), Inghilde had a crush on a boy from her home town. One day, she receives a love letter. Turns out the boy, Second LT Marco Fahrner (マルコ・ファーナー) of the 634 TSF Squadron, had been crushing as hard on her as she had on him. Infact, Marco had signed on to be a pilot originally to protect her (he was a bit shocked to learn that she had become a pilot too). Inghilde has no experience with boys, so she goes to someone who she thinks knows boys, her BFF, Annete. Annete doesn't want to admit that she's never had a BF, so she proceeds to give Inghilde all sorts of stupid advice and trails her as a date adviser. Despite Annete, Marco and Inghilde leave each other on a good note and decide they're the ones for each other (seriously, the two are like Jurgen and Beatrix, they could have a date in hell and enjoy themselves so long as they had each other). We all know how this ends, of course.
Here, Annete is advising Inghilde about how to use her boobs to seduce Marco.
I'm glad Japan started phasing out the Shittynui for the Silent Eagle.
>>141242082
I dream of a day without dead waifus.
>>141242082
God the waifu deaths just got even more depressing...
>>141238398
I'm trying to do it on my phone and Google docs is not cooperating.
>>141242082
>>141241769
I noticed an error on the Lise pic. Here's the corrected one.
>>141242441
>>141242082
>>141241333
Looking back on it, there's quite alot of artifacting going on. I'm thinking maybe I might take a look at it and try to get better rips.
>>141242082
Inghild needs to be the protagonist of sm extra.
She is too god damned adorable
>>141243166
Right, so which one looks better, pic related or >>141240675
>>141243699
When you zoom the smaller one in, there's actually less artifacs. The image quality looks way better on the small one.
>>141242441
Gambatte Lise, keep your spirits up.
>>141243699
Its not a big deal either way but this >>141243806 go with the second.
>>141243806
>>141243904
Alright, I'll rip the smaller ones whenever I get the chance. Some of the pics (like the one gushing about Pham's smile) only come large though.
Everyone got the BiS rips though, right?
>>141244092
Yes. Thanks again.
>>141234844
You say that like he didn't successfully disconnect from the shell found in the JFK Hive and is not, even now, leading an eternal crusade through bio-cyberspace against the alien menace.
>>141244713
They can rebuild him. They have the technology.
>>141244713
Going off the original trilogy, Will is in an endless loop being seduced by his childhood sweetheart right now
>>141243166
Just hit them up with Waifu. That usually kills the artifacts.
The smaller pics do look a lot sharper and cleaner though.
>>141244729
>>141244713
Better than he was before. Stronger. Faster.
>>141244895
>Will becomes the world's first Space Marine, slaved into a TSF like a Dred.
FUND IT.
>>141244173
It's kinda funny, but if Jurgen had stuck around and married Beatrix, he would have followed in his mother's footsteps.
>>141244672
Goddamn that looks good. You're the man.
>>141245010
How so
>>141244975
>FUND IT.
THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I WAS THINKING!
>>141245051
He would've married a stasi.
>>141245081
>>141244975
>>141244895
So, he would be permanently wired into the TSF itself, correct?
Would he have any way to interact with outer characters when not in combat?
>>141245262
His cockpit could be attatched to a smaller mech and removable from the TSA. He could still speak and interact through say, a robotic body, but his actual body is probably too fucked for him to survive except on life support 24/7
So I told the first person in real life that I wrote a novel, and that it's fan fiction based on this series
he wants to read it. little bit of a dilemma. I'll make him watch the series first.
>>141245315
What about a Stalker sort of thing? Granted, they were made from ALL-dead soldiers, but he'd probably not far off.
>>141245315
he has a Wall-E body to putter around base with?
desu that could be hella cute if you had one of Sandek's vat imoutos you befriended around base before eventually making love to her telekineticly and piloting a Berkut with her.
>>141245407
>the Marine is stuck with a little roomba as his avatar to interact with the world outside his life support tube
Oh gosh this sounds cute as fuck
>>141245344
>watch it
Should have waited for at least the first VN to come out in english. otherwise you're gonna have a lot of explaining to do.
>>141245407
>desu that could be hella cute if you had one of Sandek's vat imoutos you befriended around base before eventually making love to her telekineticly and piloting a Berkut with her.
>illustrations
>no one bothered to scan the illustrations in the initial Tech Gian publications
Sod this faggotrocious Earth.
>>141245504
this guy knows me in person, there's a limit to how much explaining I'd have to do. He knows how many Burzum albums I own.
>Det som engang var: best album ever.
>Hvis Lyset tar oss: a close second.
So I'm reading through chapter VII, and I don't get how people could think that Beatrix is just a "one-note villain in the LN." There are a ton of hints that there's much more to her. There's her speeches to the Werewolves and the way she treats them. There's the odd way she gets angry at everything when Jurgen is brought up (like when Schmidt is needling her), and the way she seems to resent his absense. There's her odd relationship with Walter and how they talk to one another like old acquaintances. There's the scene where Walter tells her she can be a kind woman once again that sets her off into a rage.
After learning of her death, the first thing Iris says is something of a whispered apology to her brother (unreliable narration being what it is, Theo doesn't catch the name, so Jurgen's name goes unmentioned).
何かを言いかけて、アイリスディーナは言葉を切った。それから男性の名前を呟いた。それがアイリスディーナの兄の名ではないかとテオドールは察した。
I'd say that the general tone surrounding Beatrix before BiS was one of mystery.
>>141245527
>>141245440
>>141245527
Perhaps this needs to happen.
I could give it a shot.
>>141245645
Do you really want to start this shitstorm again?
>I'd say that the general tone surrounding Beatrix before BiS was one of mystery.
Because none of that excuses what she does. BiS makes that a lot easier to ignore.
>>141245701
Shooting people doesn't mean a whole bunch if there's no good reason not to shoot them. I'm not charlie sheen so "SHEEZ UH YOOMUN BEAN" isn't good enough.
>>141245701
I'm not saying she's not a bad person; in fact, the anime failed to capture the horrifying extents Beatrix would go to for Jurgen's ideal, especially when backed up against a wall, but there does seem to the implication of unexplored depths to her above being a random sexy psycho.
>>141245839
>SHEEZ UH YOOMUN BEAN
The fuck does this mean?
>>141245894
Say it out loud, or watch Platoon, or both.
>>141245894
She's a real human bean.
>>141245855
>there does seem to the implication of unexplored depths to her above being a random sexy psycho.
For one, I'd say that the advice 'Show, don't tell' has in general become somewhat obsolete, especially with Chinese cartoons.
Beyond that, there was a lot happening, and Lise providing an effective lighting rod in the 'WTF is going on with this girl' category.
>>141234491
>wanting off the ride
Where do you think you are?
You set your fate in stone long before the ride got to this point.
>>141234713
Here, have some perverted lil Will.
>>141236012
>>141236073
>F
O...oorah ;_;
>>141240725
T-thank you
>confessionWhat
Also, you're a bretty cool guy high resolution anon. How'd you get these anyways?
>>141246320
Pham is pretty cute tbqh. I' take an extra tour in VN to take her home, even if it meant my kids wouldn't have blue eyes.
I'd definitely take an extra tour at Checkpoint Charlie.
>>141242441
>>141244672
Holy shit never seen high res scans of this one
>>141246432
Welcome to the future
![[Commie] Schwarzesmarken - 12 [4FC957A8].mkv_snapshot_09.13_[2016.05.07_13.34.28].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/RtQLyan.jpg "[Commie] Schwarzesmarken - 12 [4FC957A8].mkv snapshot 09.13 [2016.05.07 13.34.28]")
>>141245839
She was shooting up protesters because of shit like pick related. She started off with just arresting the people who showed up at the wall before Katia's speech blew everything up.
>>141245949
The LN purposely has holes in it to create this atmosphere and smokescreen of deception and confusion. None of the characters really know what's going on, so you the reader don't either. The holes also serve as a means to characterize. When confronted with the unknown, the characters will rationalize it and project themselves. For instances, Theo thinks that Beatrix simply wishes to sacrifice East Germany as a means of getting on the UN's good side. After the DDR falls, Beatrix will simply escape with her stasi cohort to a cushy life elsewhere:
ベアトリクスが国連の庇護下で国家保安省シユタージ体制を存続させようとしていることは察していた。しかしその目的が、権力欲などではなく、対ＢＥＴＡ戦のためだけに特化した国家を作り出すためとは──完全に想像を越えていた。
Theo literally can't wrap his mind around Beatrix, so ends up projecting his own behaviors or desires onto her. If Theo were to be in Beatrix's situation, the above might be what he'd attempt to do with Iris and the rest.
>>141246571
Just for fun, I'll try to translate what a Theo vs Bea conversation sounds like:
テオドールは愕然としていた。
「……人々を……俺たちを感情のないロボットにでもする気か!?」
『──そうね。これはＢＥＴＡとの生存競争よ。感情をなくせば勝てるというなら、そうしてもらうだけね』
Theodor was appalled.
"Are you...are you trying to turn us into robots without feelings"
"--Well, we're locked in a struggle of survival with the BETA. If that is the only way for us to attain victory, then it's what we must do"
>>141246571
I don't really think those soldiers deserved that shit. They weren't even fighting back.
>>141246571
>>141246788
In the end mankind did get saved by someone with very similar Ideals and personality. The thing is that Yuuko had much greater means and still had some hope in other people. That is further proof that if Beatrix had had a sort of morality chain in the form of Iris, they would have both succeeded and not died in their attempts to carry out their Ideals.
>>141247038
That is a very cute Marimo.
>>141246571
I've been trying to explain it, but to no avail. Oh well.
Though it's interesting that Theo even that late was also giving thought to running then, if he could.
>>141246788
Even in the novels it seems they don't talk much though...or do they? I mean, isn't this picture from one of their communiques?
>>141242441
>all that blood in the ribbons
How dead were Lise's eyes that night as she was desperately trying to scrub the ribbons clean? Becuase you know damn well she didn't clean herself first.
>>141237444
Starting TDA 01 and already MC with a PTSD
nice
I want to beat up Gretel and Irisdina.
>>141247377
I want to know what the fuck those ribbons are made of to stay in as good shape as they do.
>>141247514
that's fine, but if you touch Lise I'll karabiner your intestines to the flywheel of a Ford Model A
>>141247621
Lise is scary, I wouldn't touch her.
>>141247556
Watertight, airtight film over themformed from years worth of tears
>>141246571
>Theo literally can't wrap his mind around Beatrix, so ends up projecting his own behaviors or desires onto her
Isn't that obvious though? I mean, he goes around blaming Beatrix for Lise, and utterly hating her.
Even his LN counterpart is vulnerable to the weakness of not either wanting to know the whole story, or rushing off before hearing the full thing.
>>141247752
good. Lise is for gently cuddling after she has some sort of horrific nightmare about the things she used to do.
>>141247237
>Even in the novels it seems they don't talk much though...or do they? I mean, isn't this picture from one of their communiques?
They talk a little in Volume VI-VII, but they never really understand where the other is coming from. It doesn't help that Beatrix doesn't really see Theo as Theo, but an extension of Irisdina's will, just as Theo doesn't see Beatrix as anything more than a sadistic thug.
That image isn't from a communique, but from Volume II, where Beatrix is bored out of her mind assisting the KGB and starts daydreaming about catching Irisdina and what she's going to do to her (before being interrupted by one of her Werewolves). I think it's where she starts thinking about how much she's going to enjoy dragging Iris's sins into the daylight and revealing what a false hero she is to everyone.
>>141242082
Jesus Christ, no wonder Inghilde's death fucked Anette and even Theo up.
It's even worse because her beginning was even in tragedy though - she's from now despised Junker nobility.
From despair, a bright glow of light and happiness, followed again by utter darkness, and then the end. It literally is Jurgen and Beatrix.
;_;
>>141247899
Here's the quote:
あれを英雄に仕立て上げた美談が、どれだけの嘘と罪で塗り固められているのか――それをようやく暴き立てられると思うと楽しみで仕方がないわ ―ベアトリクス・ブレーメ―
Sumika best girl.
>>141247840
>gently cuddling
Well at least you know what she likes.
Katia is for corruption.
This is the face of a man who knows how to treat girls right.
>>141248229
Looks like a dork to me.
>>141246320
I think from the picture that she's happy someone is accepting her smile and thinks she's beautiful. I know her Requiem story deals with racism, and becoming accepted. Throughout SM, people treat her terribly calling her yellow monkey and stuff (Gretel's one of them I think, and the stasi chick who holds her hostage calls her a lot of racist slurs).
>>141248310
>yellow monkey
That insult really kinda loses power when they draw her skin color the same as everyone else.
How would Takeru have dealt with shit if he was in Theo's position?
Irisdina is stupid and no one loves her.
>>141248229
How about androids?
>>141248358
He would've fucked it up just as badly, but it would've been amusing rather than frustrating. Might've fucked all the girls too.
The rebellion would have ended quickly too. I don't think Beatrix or Iris would even try to fuck with him once he pulls some of his crazier stunts. Finally, unless this is TDA Takeru, I don't think he'd go for kills on disabled enemies. In fact, with his skills, I don't know if he'd really have to elevate things to lethal force unless his friends are in danger.
>>141248358
probably have them all killed
since casualty conductor and everyone he meets die
>>141248358
I don't think that he would have handled the change from Extraverse Japan to BETAverse East Germany very well. And everyone would have be complete strangers to him, he adapted somewhat well in Unlimited because he knew most of the people he ended up with. Can't see that happening when transported to a even tougher position.
>>141248404
Japs love her quite a lot. Iris isn't really that stupid. She was right about the West not being their friends. Just like everyone else though, she wasn't totally right.
>>141248537
I'm just bullying her.
>you will never punch her ugly slut face
>>141248534
If he's "in Theo's position", then that implies most of the hard work has already been done. I'm assuming he retains his monstrous skills, at least, in which case the Stasi will attempt to induct him into their order just like they tried with Jurgen.
>>141248358
Takeru would have ended up into another Kurogane due to political indoctrination and would be a complete puppet.
>>141247899
>>141247979
Well it does fit Beatrix's mode of confrontation with Iris rather well. Iris likes to talk like she's impersonal to all their past, when for Beatrix, she doesn't hide it at all that it may as well all have been yesterday, it's that fresh, and hurts that much still.
>Beato will never rape Iris
>>141248687
She did have her chained up in her dungeon for sometime. You never know.
>>141234019
>there is no muv-luv anime
>yet all the girls depicted are anime characters
>and the captcha is cookies
Cookie! You goddamn troll, you!
>>141248787
>He doesn't know that a adaptation was planned but got canned.
>>141248758
Anime one didn'd do shit to her, LN Bea starved Iris and beat her so badly that Theo said she'd probably never be able to pilot a TSF properly or sleep without feeling pain again.
>>141248787
>>141248843
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vyV2HFfOpjI
>>141241030
>>141241333
>cute Himecut is the traitor and one to get quartered by a bunch of BATERs
I can't really hate Kaja. I don't even know if she knew that her friends were going to get moderately liberated like they did.
I want to bully Sylwia, but she would probably kick my ass
>All these high res scans getting dropped
What happened?
>>141249091
What an ugly girl. I bet not even BETAs would want to touch something so gross.
>>141248912
>Theo said she'd probably never be able to pilot a TSF properly or sleep without feeling pain again.
Which is kind of contradicted by Iris smacking Axmann around when he threatens Katia later on.
>>141249023
moderate rebels. not even once.
Kaja is cute and she deserves a chance to apologize. but depending on which holes they stuck it in she might still deserve to be ripped apart by alien monsters.
>>141249148
Beatrix, bitte.
>>141248843
fucking earthquake cockblock us
i bet sumika did this
>>141249172
Why does image make me want to kiss her on the cheek?
>>141249200
*this image.
I'm retarded.
Lise should be tenderly loved at all times.
The ride is stopping finally. Only 25 posters and 140ish replies. Goodbye my dead waifus.
>>141249443
>stopping
Best girl coming through
>>141249443
ths thread came online late, plus its a weekend thing.
How do you make Gretel like you?
>>141248310
Ah yes, that.
Being accepted is a nice thing. It's nice to have people acknowledge your right to exist.
;_;
>>141249659
something something dialectic materialism something something Josip Broz Tito
tl;dr shove a dick up her ass
>>141248310
Pham and Sylwia are great.
>>141249443
Looks like it, how many days has it been since the anime ended?
>>141249675
I'm a lisefag but if i had a pham in my life i'd set her up with my mutual male acquaintances until she found her one and only.
I want to beat up loli Beatrix
>>141250029
Oh c'mon man thats not even a loli
>>141249884
Any man on Earth would be lucky to raise a senpai with Pham
why haven't the best girls been posted yet?
posting.
>>141250085
>senpai with Pham
*a senpai with Pham
>>141249865
The ride has only begun
>>141250085
I would still beat her.
What makes Lise such perfect headpat material?
>>141250408
Just the right height, cute, soft-looking hair, an appearance that compels you to want to protect.
Mix of factors.
>>141250440
>an appearance that compels you to want to protect.
Damn paternal instincts
>>141248912
Wait what?
And then there's >>141249163 , which someone mentioned before.
>>141249501
Wessi girl is cute.
How do we improve the survivability of the infantryman against the BETA?
Current soviet battle tactics which the warsaw pact nations follow would have your average motorised rifle company or battalion weakly equiped for dealing with BETA platoon or company sized units with high chance of success and low casualties.
The situation gets worse when artillery and air support is unavailable or a handfull of Destroyer-class is on the field due to their immunity to most anti tank weapons on their 50 degrees frontal arch.
What do we do?
>>141249443
Hey at least we havent started wage waifu wars again and complain about rumbling hearts and for making tsudere a popular term, nagging about sumika and etc
>>141249734
>shove a dick up her ass
Degenerate, you deserve your gulag.
And being a commissar, she`d fuck you up on the fields of dialectic materialism.
>>141249884
>>141250085
And yet she never will make it. That is the tragedy, perhaps.
Pham's love is a very self-sacrificial love. Pham would simply try to make said acquaintences hook up with other people who are also lonely.
>tfw no Yugoslavia Front VN
>>141250129
That's not Meiya.
>>141249191
Beato likes touching Iris though >>141244173.
>>141252419
i would shoot immediately meiya if she begs for it
>>141252508
I would cryI actually cried a little during that scene
>>141252562TAKERUUUUUU SHOOOOOOOOT
>>141250029
Reminder she was only 14 years old in that picture.
>>141251640
More DshKs, Plamyas and Shilkas. The last one preferably at the front, not like how Heim likes to use them.
>>141252621
What's up with begging to be shot anyways? It's not like you're gonna survive those initial bites in nearly all cases.
>>141252621I have no idea which was the one thing that fuck me up in that scene, the confession of love that she was suppose take to her grave , the begging to be shot or
>>141249734
>shove a dick up her ass
The only way to tame the shrew.
>>141252827
because she was about to tentacled by superior kun and takeru was very hesitant to pull the trigger so she had to beg him to shoot already
>>141252885
too soon anon
>>141252705
So you want to attach additional number air defense artillery platoons, automatic grenade launcher platoon and increase motorised rilfe troops firepower with DshKs?
Are there anymore equipment or tactical changes you would want that you think would benefit the motorised rifleman?
>>141252915
Oh.
But ask Sumika. He's a pretty good lay it turns out.
>>141253267
Seeing that they aren't fighting humans, using form changing Ammo that was prohibited under the first Hague convention for military use would be nice. We want to maximize damage done to the BETA, so if 7.62×39mm really is useful against the smaller strains, improving the damage it causes can't be a bad thing.
It feels good that Japan scrapped all Shittynui II plans and juat went with the Gekkou which is slowly becoming their main unit. All remaining Valkyries use Gekkous now.
>>141253956
I suppose F-35s too, when they become available, no?
>>141253956
obviously they would scrap it when they knew that a disgrace stole and the one develop it
>>141253531
If you are talking about hollow point then it would actually counter the effectivness of the 7.62x39 which is from its ability to penetrate material with the standard m43 round.
Questionable if explosives rifle rounds would be stable long enough that they would penetrate into the target before exploding. The hard possible skin of a tank-class might be strong enough to cause it to detonate outside the body or with minimal penetration leaving minimum damage in both cases.
Tank-class are regarded as resistant to 12.7mm and only being vulnerable at close range to automatic rifle fire if we use schwarzesmarken and other information and the 7.62x39 m43 round works best at close range when it comes to target penetration.
>>141253956
Really? Cause that's awesome. Really glad because no one, not even Japan itself liked TE so them just throwing out everything that was in TE is really nice. Also glad they never fielded that shitty second Shiranui and just let it tot with the rest of TE.
Just give everybody a DP-27.
Cool factor alone will kill the baters.
>>141254201
is she a slut like her mother?
>>141254292
I don't even think she knows what sex is.
>>141254276
This. The Shittynui II was such a terrible design I'm glad that it was never used again after Total Eclipse.
>>141254285
But it is questionable if any of the warsaw pact nations have the DP-27 in storage.Inb4 we ww-2 human "wave" now
>>141254323
she was probably whoring around with her mother since she spent a lot of time with her so she does know sex very well.
>>141253956
>>141254276
That waste of time was never actually used, thats fricking hilarious and just goes to show how bad TE was.
>>141254337
Baters don`t have guns and defensive positions.
No point in running to meet them.
>>141254361
>taking hearsay as fact
sup Theo
>>141254371
The only way to win a war is with offensive actions.
Defence is only a tempoary setback and preparation for offensive operations.
The further away we get from their Hive the more we lose.
>>141254276
It's nice to know that no one used the Shiranui II after TE. God that thing was a piece of shit.
>>141254447
Space rods are the answer.
>>141234019
Do not know anything about this series but black hair girl and the long haired blue one seems best girls
But while we are talking about offensive and defensive actions, lets look at the enemy.
The most common enemy that we will face, the Tank-class and the Grappler-class are very vulnerable to our current weapons that the motorised rifle troops have. The tank-class, is vulnerable to12.7mm fire at long range and vulnerable to 7.62x39 at close range that a short burst is enough to almost cut of its arm is a very interesting fact, and it's good to know.
The 7.62x39 m43 round got the power to penetrate almost 6mm of RHA at 100 meters but it drop of to 3.5mm at 280 meters.
The 12.7x108mm firing the B-32 API round got the power to penetrate 20mm RHA at 500 meters and 13.2mm at 1000 meters. It can penetrate twice as much steel as 7.62x39 round can from 100 meters ten times further.
The 23mm round that is used in shilkas got the power to penetrate 24.1mm RHA at 500 meters and 19.3mm RHA at 1000 meters. Almost as much as a 12.7x108mm B-32 API round can at 500 meters but double the range. And the shilkas we have in service are used as ground support weapons, capable of cleaning the battlefield. Taking down tank-class and grappler-class with its high rate of fire and power per round.
But we have weapons far more common then the 23mm and it available in every motorised rifle unit with BTR's and more. The KPVT firing the 14.5x114mm BS-41 round is capable to penetrate up to 40mm of RHA at 100 meters and 20mm at 1000 meters. It will do maximum damage at 100 meters being able to fell the gigantic grappler-class better then a shilka per round. The Grappler-class which can with its gigantic claws smash tanks and taking down our mighty MiG-21 is vulnerable to a mere BTR-60PB.
And there are even more weapons that can destroy our enemy. RPG's, ATGM, Recoilless rifles, machine guns and hand grenades. We have the capability to mass produce old world war 2 anti tank rifles and equip every motorised rifle squad with it giving them a massive advantage.
Our enemy, is very vulnerable.
>>141254276
TE was really nice though. I don't get why people trash it so much.
The Shirunai P2 not actually getting fielded is just fine. Yuuya has another TSF that needs him, that he can go back to.
>>141255524
>5 MG teams and two AT teams on BTR
>beta removal squad
>>141255659
>TE was really nice though.
>>141254276
>Even Japan realizes how shitty their TSF are.
It makes me so happy that this happened and gives me hope that the next TDA has everyone is Silent Eagles instead of the shitty Shiranui.
>>141256204
>kneejerking
>in the current year
>>141254276
Thank god!
Shiranui II was such a waste of time and TE was so bad I'm glad all of muvluv just abandoned it.
>>141253956
It is. Knowing that the Shittynui Second was never used or put into production is great.
>>141256266
In TDA, they're likely using anything that they still have around. That or what there are spare parts for.
Hell, if there are any Russians still around, they probably got absorbed into America so there's Soviet TSFs flying around in American colors.
More TDA when?
More allied TSF's just fighting the fucking enemies and dancing on the fields of salt when?
>>141253956
Shiranui Second was never actually used, that's fucking amazing. I love that. It had a shit design and had terrible specs. It was not a good machine and I am so exstatic that they just scrapped it and made TE completely worthless and pointless.
>>141257352
Well TDA dis indeed need to be advanced, but I'd like if they could do something in some other party of the world too. Indian Front, or more intrigue , mysteries, political and stuff on the American mainland?
>>141253956
>>141254189
>>141254276
>>141254328
>>141254367
>>141255129
>>141256266
>>141256303
>>141256349
>>141257486
I haven't seen such blatant samefagging since I stopped going to Madoka threads. Good job.
>>141257601
Well, we might get more of that considering they finally regain their satellite and nukes hence NORAD and food plants, that the jap-american unitied front would probably use to negotiate more countries from joining considering that the BETAs who they thought was under the ocean are started resurfacing on carrier...so maybe
>>141258036
No, just a lot of people happy that TE, tge worst part of Muv-luv, is basically tossed away and that Japan is finally getting it through their heads that their combat doctrine and TSFs are shit.
>>141258203
>a lot of people
>no increase in IP count
>>141257352
eventually someday
>>141258225
>caring about an increasing IP count in a thread that never has over 50 IPs when saging after 500 posts.
Stay mad. Shittynui is shit, was never used and everyone is happy about it.
>>141258225
Fuck you asshole!
>>141258331
It`s you who should care about this stuff, not me.
I`m having fun.
>>141258203
This, we are really excited about the possibility of Japan discarding all their terrible mechs for better ones like Eagles in TDA.
>>141254276
TE was for mecha porn world building.
The TE anime was for Muv Luv marketing in general
>>141258454
And no one liked TE.
>>141258474
Nice headcanon here.
>>141258434
You do seem to care since you brought it up.
>>141258501
>facts are headcanon
Keep telling yourself that.
>>141258501
Umm, TE IS the worst and most despised iteration of the franchise.
>>141258541
>maximalist statement out of ass
>fact
>>141258454
But it was complete shit with bad new designs and the worst written characters.
>>141251822
I only have to know enough about dialectic materialism to be able to follow along when she tells me about it, and ask pointed questions that make her talk about something she enjoys and is heavily emotionally invested in.
Then, you know, shove a dick in her ass. She thinks socialism offers a viable economic model, she's obviously into scat.
>>141258626
Everyone hates TE. That is a fact.
>>141258655
>projections
>on commissar, of all possible perties
She`s into executions, anon. You`re in terrible danger.
>>141258725
Yeah, like this.
>>141258740
Would you like the automatic version?
Faster but may claim more then 1 victim due to the power it have. Only the strongest commissar may wield it with high success.
>>141257231
>Hell, if there are any Russians still around, they probably got absorbed into America so there's Soviet TSFs flying around in American colors.
Well, at least they made it official.
I wonder if they managed to save any of Sandek's MP Imoutos.
>>141258810
Yes please! APS is always welcome.
>>141258906
Sandek`s imoutos are a great asset, tovarisch.
Of course they are around.
>>141258653
You're thinking of SM. Not much way to get worse than that in either category.
>>141258697
>>141258725
Well I mean, obviously I don't tell her that her ideology is shit until after I put my dick in her ass. Until then, I tell her she's a very smart person who has lots of good ideas, and the things she thinks are good are things i also think are good.
>>141252419
I like you anon.
>>141258982
And she`s not into submission.
We`ll squat on your grave, anon.
>>141258962
SM had great designs and some well written characters. TE has neither and also has no stakes and is just a boring mess with completely unlikable people.
>>141258999
I would love to be her noble confidant
>>141259098
Chobi and italian stallion would take offence here.
That blond mechanic dude and turkish Snake weren`t bad either.
But as a whole show didn`t really know what it wanted to be, yes.
>>141259025
>squat on your grave
>>141259224
Highest honors!
>>141259162
>Chobi and italian stallion would take offence here.
>That blond mechanic dude and turkish Snake weren`t bad either.
They were all unfunny one gimmick caricatures that had no depth to them and were in no way good.
>>141259267
>unfunny
>no depth
True, not much hedgeheg going.
>>141259098
And TE is completely pointless since nothing happened in it and had no impact on Muvluv. No TSF made in it were ever used and everyone exits like nothing happened.
>>141259025
cheeki breeki
>>141259366
>pointless
>nothing happened
Okay, maximalism to the absurd is also an approach. But don`t cut yourself.
>>141259411
i v damki
>>141259366
>nd had no impact on Muvluv
eh, werent Yuuya the one who killed the fort classer that was targetting the susanoo?
>>141259464
No.
![Adam-Smith-the-Dividend-Investor[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/rlRhFF5.jpg "Adam-Smith-the-Dividend-Investor[1]")
>>141258655
>Then, you know, shove a dick in her ass. She thinks socialism offers a viable economic model
It really is funny. By '83, even the East Germans were realizing it was shit.
>she's obviously into scat.
I never thought of it like that.
>>141259464
He didn't because there wasn't one there.
>>141259366
>No TSF made in it were ever used
I still love that the entire point of TE was to make a new TSF and then they just abandon it completely for an existing TSF. It's hilarious.
>>141258203
>>141258608
Your favorite girl not winning the MCbowl doesn't really make a show shit, fampai.
>>141259366
TE bothered me.
I'm appalled that they didn't know who to beach a raft properly, and the idea that Yukon City had buildings that weren't trailers and had trees and park land was absurd and ruined my immersion. Latrova and Nathalie were cute though.
>>141259527
>>141259558
eh im pretty sure he did kill the laser fort class with that esper powered bullshit energy
>>141259464
There was no fort class targetting it that wasn't already being delt with. Saying Yuuya was there means nothing.
>>141259669
But there was none there initially so it doesn't matter.
>>141259669
The problem with that is that in Alternative there was no Laser Fort Class so it's a fabricated conflict that rings hollow and had no actual impact on anything else that happened in the main story.
>>141258953
I'm not disagreeing - in fact, having Vladimir's psykers as a bargaining chip might be the only thing that would save the Russians. Given how bad things in Seattle got before the food plant opened and some of Walken's comments confirming that Seattle wasn't exceptional in that respect, convincing the U.S. that it has the food for another few million refugees (from their long-time enemy) might be difficult.
That said, the Russian TSFs, and the fact that all their stuff is typically built like a brick is going to be helpful in this sort of scenario.
>>141234019
>Lets take a trip back to 2004.
Alright.
>>141259669
So basically if he was more skilled and faster
then my boy takahashi would not need to fucking sacrifice his life?
Top gun my ass
>>141259864
No, once he was engaging, the thing would have stopped firing, and been too distracted to coordinate all the other Heavy Lasers.
The problem was probably that the Russians managed to fuck everything up with their espers going batshit crazy, which NO ONE could have predicted.
>>141259366
>No TSF made in it were ever used and everyone exits like nothing happened.
What about the Type-04?
>>141255777
Nice trips, Beato.
>>141258474
But TE spawned Latrova and Tasha.
>>141259546
Eh, it was a weirdly polarizing time. In 1983, even us Taiwanese were realizing capitalism mostly served to make a few old men in Taipei rich as fuck and keep the rest of us gambling on not dying from the flu or starving in the mountains. Didn't keep us from trying for a few more years until martial law ended.
Dying from easily preventable diseases =/= viable economic model. 20 years later, we have a NHS.
>>141260184
>20 years later, we have a NHS.
Britfag hear, and neither does dying from missing an MRI.
>>141260257
Britain is a special case in that regard.
A scary one.
>>141260053
Never used, never put into production, and completely forgotten by everyone.
>>141260341
how much post 2001 (not TDA) content was there exactly
>>141260053
>What about the Type-04?
Yuuya disgraced the project so it was scrapped.
>>141260053
It lost to Eagles and was thrown away.
>>141260184
Who dies of what diseases is a humanitarian concern. It is significant, but it has nothing to do with whether or not a system is economically viable. As the amount that can be done with medicine, and thus the amount that can be spent on it increases, that becomes a serious problem, and is why quality of care universally suffers under a socialist medical system.
That's why you had Canadians leaving the country to get treatment in the U.S., if they could afford to, at least until very recently.
>>141260422
>>141260382
>>141260341
But... That's not what happened. TSFiA 26.
>>141260534
TE is the Dark Souls 2 of Muv Luv, don't try and reason with it.
>>141260322
Canada too.
And it's getting worse in Europe.
>>141260567
Weren`t canucks so very proud of their healthcare? Or did Trudeau already destroy that?
>>141260622
>Weren`t canucks so very proud of their healthcare
Only state shills. Large taxes and wait times to match. I had to wait for 9 hours in an ER to fix a broken wrist.
>>141240813
>>141240871
>>141240963
>>141241468
What are these? Prequels?
>>141260665
Wow. Why didn`t they transfer you to somewhere else if they couldn`t handle you?
>>141260184
>He bought the meme that all public services are tantamount to socialism.
Using tax revenue to fund your healthcare system presupposes the presence of a capitalist model even if the healthcare is administered by the state.
>>141260534
It is what happened. Japan chose the Silent Eagle after it beat the Shiranui II and the Silent Eagle is now being used by the surviving Valkyries.
>>141260776
It`s usually the burgers who assume that word socialism means instant gulag and get hysterical.
>>141260753
Probably because waiting with my broken hand up my ass was faster.
If you get injured and go to a hospital with low drag, good for you. But the long wait times for semi-serious stuff can't be lied about.
>>141261384
I wonder if Beato wanted a bite.
>>141261384
Nice twins Iris.
>>141260913
Canada is also a special case because private doctors are banned from providing services that the state provides, so Canadians who want to pay for a procedure have to go to America to get it (or Brazil or Mexico, but the vast majority of Canadians live less than a couple hours from the border anyway).
It's one of the ways the original Trudeau made sure doctors would go along with his health reforms.
While the Canadian dollar was doing great it probably wasn't that big of a deal to go south for care, but I think you'd need the Tories in charge and have the Loonie in the gutter for anything to change.
>>141261384
I'm gonna tap that.
>>141261767
>you will never a Iris and Beato sandwich
>>141260341
They started producing it in the 2004 you idiot..
>>141262495
Those dress uniforms are superior, aren't they?
>>141261836
I just want to sit in on Lise telling Beatrix about new and exciting ways to make Jurgen feel extra good.
Schwarzesmarken has got to be the single most boring and poorly executed installment in the Muv-Luv franchise. Of all the franchise’s merits, this show shared naught but the setting. It would be more accurate to call this a bad soap opera that just happened to feature BETA fights here and there. Theodore is one of the most stupid protagonists I’ve watched. At the single most convenient moment, his assumed-dead sister is assigned to his squad. His teammates suspect her of being a spy. The leader of her organization outright says she’s a spy. She reveals herself as a spy. Yet all the while, Theo takes her side over the comrades he’s presumably had for years. Just when he’s beginning to doubt her, she throws herself at him and gets him to sleep with her. Every one of her actions was blatantly deceptive, and in continually doubting his allies, this guy got most of them brutally tortured and/or killed. Even when the truth is out and the two siblings are in combat, he hesitates to kill her, resulting in the character who actually was like a sister to him getting blown up. A close second to Theodore’s stupidity is that of the sister, Lise. She joined the organization that murdered her parents and is trying to murder her brother, became a sex slave to the leader of said organization, and committed atrocities for them just because she wanted to be reunited with said brother. No amount of suspension of disbelief can make these characters seem like real people. In comparison, Total Eclipse – which I had my problems with, as well – was superior to this in every possible way. Schwarzesmarken is the worst the Muv-Luv franchise has to offer, and it’s best left forgotten to the ages.
>>141262739
Nice TE pasta.
>>141262739
>characters in any show have this absolute obligation to me
>they all have to be nice, smart and likable
>except designated villains
>>141262504
No they didn't. It was scrapped in favor of the Gekkou.
So reading through some Jap shit, Beatrix makes schnitzel (牛肉のカツレツ) for Juegen when got back to Berlin. I know Iris can cook too. Can any of the other girls, like Lise cook for their man?
>>141262866
Yuuhi banhammered the Gekkou in favor of the Westernized Shitanui.
Or at least such is the public perception.
>>141262739
Seems like a reasonable analysis. SM had more screentime given to more popular waifus, so it's better.
>>141263255
No the Gekkou won out and is being used by the surviving Valkyries.
>>141263246
I'm sure Sylwia has at least tried. Gretel, Katia, Lise and Annett don't give that feeling. And Pham and Inghild are kind of motherly so I'm sure they can cook.
>>141263303
Where did this meme come from?
>>141263566
>facts are memes
Try harder.
>>141263566
It's not a meme, it's what actually happened.
>>141263370
>>141263246
Beatrix doesn't exactly strike me as motherly or the type to make cooking a hobby, so we just don't know about the others.
>>141263651
>>141263692
No, the only appearance of the F-15SEJ was TSFiA 27, where it was still in the purchase evaluation stage, in 2003.
Yuuhi subsequently decided that they were going to buy the Type-02 Mass-Production Shurinui instead, because the nips literally don't know a good thing when it bites them on the ass. So that was them designated the Type-04 for its year of acquisition.
>>141263998
Beatrix's only "nice" hobby is cooking anon, that's canon.
>>141264054
No she didn't. They went with the Gekkou and left the Shiranui II on the cutting room floor. Stop talking out your ass.
>>141264155
Her other hobbies are swimming, reading, trolling others, and tea.
>>141264298
I don't think she's doing much after Jurgen died except for moping around, spreading the misery she feels to others, killing refugees, and trying to get back at Iris.
>>141264412
Cake and tea during interrogations did manage to get into the anime though.
>captcha was tea
>>141264412
>>141264612
Day of rope soon.
>>141264655
But the day of the penetration already came and went.
>>141262574
I wish more Muv-Luv girls wore flight/garrison caps. Actually I'd like if they wore covers with their uniforms to begin with.
>>141264745
A girl as beautiful as Beatrix should not have died a virgin.
>>141264888
They do sometimes.
>>141265014
Less than they should, really.
>>141264888
Pogs don't care about the regs, dude.
>>141265232
It's true that pilots tend to be lax as hell. But typical pogs vs. grunts? Fuck no, it's always the pogs who are concerned with regs so they can look good in front of leadership.
>>141264745
FUck but fuck cunt beatrix stink stasi scheiste sheiste..beratrix penetration best day of my life. take a bath of dead beatrix..ahahahahahSTASI WE WILL GET YOU!! do not forget rebellion .Heinz we kill the democracy , heinze return to your precious rape dungeon….hahahahaha idiot beatrice and stasi not so pretty now..wow i can smell the blood. REMOVE STASI FROM THE PREMISES. you will get caught. suzy+katia+iris+annete=kill beatrerix
>>141265014
>>141265232
>>141265383
>>141264888
I get it, it's character design. But the fact that nobody wears a helmet when they're flying a TSF is completely insane to me.
>>141264901
It was truly a waste.
>>141265620
At least they introduced helmets in TDA, but they are not standard issue.
>>141260737
that's requiem its more like side story/prequel some of it happens during SM
>>141265610
t. moderate rebel.
![[Ohys-Raws] Schwarzesmarken - 11 (TX 1280x720 x264 AAC).mp4_snapshot_09.36_[2016.03.20_12.21.35].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/NK1fkEi.jpg "[Ohys-Raws] Schwarzesmarken - 11 (TX 1280x720 x264 AAC).mp4 snapshot 09.36 [2016.03.20 12.21.35]")
>>141265762
>>141264901
Doesn't Theo force himself onto her and thrust himself into her hips and stomach in the LN/VN rather than her shoulder?
I always thought her death was more like pic related.
>>141266059
You are right, but if you animated that while focusing on her upper body, it wouldn't look that well. Well its not like their solution to that problem is flawless. But hey, maybe the BDs will fix it.
>>141265620
Nah, I get that almost nobody has hair within regs so they can have girls with long flowing hair, but it's stupid to think that having them wear hats would hurt their character design while they're all wearing uniforms anyway. Probably just laziness on age's part.
>>141266306
Agreed. Needs more hats.
>>141261384
This reminded me that I still have no idea what Slutmika meant when she said whatever about the two mountains or something after Takeru fixed the computer.
>>141266059
I was expecting this with a cute grunt or scream from Beatrix, followed by her doubling over in pain and clutching Theo's knife as she struggles to say her last lines.
>>141265620
They have a helmet.. But it seems to be something only use during low oxygen zones
Where are the Wops in Muvluv?
Aside from Valerio I guess.
>>141267776
His sister was a test pilot for the Typhoon. And not even the BETA want Sicily and Sardinia.
![[HorribleSubs] Schwarzesmarken - 11 [1080p].mkv_snapshot_09.34_[2016.05.08_12.32.12].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/Q1VSSaB.jpg "[HorribleSubs] Schwarzesmarken - 11 [1080p].mkv snapshot 09.34 [2016.05.08 12.32.12]")
Getting a cockpit blowjob from Beatrix!
>>141264054
>Type-02 Mass-Production Shurinui instead, because the nips literally don't know a good thing when it bites them on the ass.
Fuck you! Shiranui II is far superior to any Eagle variation.
>>141268965
The war is over on Japan's soil. Might as well get some TSFs with the stealth gimmick in order fight other humans.
>>141264412
She may also make token cameo appearances on the front lines, so as to have at least a nominal reason for having a whole battalion of TSFs.
>>141269048
Gimmick indeed, son!
>>141267927
>not even the BETA want Sicily and Sardinia.
It looks like the do have Sicily, but Corsica is still clear.
>>141269316
They don't really have to justify themselves. Beatrix's job during BETA ops is ironically opposite to what Iris does. Rather than ignoring distress calls or trapped pockets of NVA, she's tasked with rescuing them. It's why the NVA who fought on her side were so fanatically loyal to her. She was their "spiritual pillar" (精神的支柱) and they genuinely loved her.
殆どの機体が降伏し、武装解除に応じていた。
彼等にとって、ベアトリクス・ブレーメという存在は精神的支柱だったのだろう。
The funny thing is, is that 精神的支柱 is used to describe Katia too, which draws parallels between Beatrix and Katia.
>>141269597
They've done minor retcons since that map came out. Compare 1983 in that series of maps and this. Rain Dancers claim that Sicily is held, and most of the fighting in that story is in Calabria.
>>141269762
Honestly, I'm not sure why the 'ignoring distress calls' thing is made such a big deal of. It's not like you expect strategic bombers to abort their mission to provide support.
>>141269762
>殆どの機体が降伏し、武装解除に応じていた。
>彼等にとって、ベアトリクス・ブレーメという存在は精神的支柱だったのだろう。
In response to the disarmament order, most of the aircraft surrendered.
For them, Beatrix Brehme had been their spiritual (TN: or moral) pillar.
Yeah, and now that I think about it, it is a nice foil to Saint Ursula that I wish the anime would have explored. Making Beatrix an ass to even her own men was a mistake. LN Beatrix makes you feel like you're on top of the world if you're one of her guys. Everybody else she treats like trash though.
>>141269762
>>141270252
Mean Girls the Squadron was a mistake!
>reading chicken divers
>literally ends with a fade to black screen then text that "btw he died"
Wow
>>141271388
We told you last thread that it was shit.
>>141271099
I enjoyed the show for what it was, but damn it could have been better.
>>141271458
I had to see it for myself. But damn it really was. Though mother goose seems based at least
>>141271474
That's the point. I enjoyed all those Sundays with /a/ and it was a fun watch, but by God, so much wasted potential, even a few changed lines and some smirks turned into frowns would have improved the series dramatically.
>>141271578
She makes it to TDA, but we do not know what she did during Ouka. Hopefully she didn't have to do a Ichimonji.
![[HorribleSubs] Schwarzesmarken - 09 [720p].mkv_snapshot_18.54_[2016.04.18_16.26.51].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/cXqiyAR.jpg "[HorribleSubs] Schwarzesmarken - 09 [720p].mkv snapshot 18.54 [2016.04.18 16.26.51]")
So I got a question. Why did the stasi pick Lise to embed in the 666th? Her connection to Theo would have made her a very bad choice for a variety of reasons. First, there's the emotional involvement it invites. Lise could be compromised and not go through with everything. Second, there's the fact that Theo knew she had been taken by the stasi and her miraculous reappearance after so many years would have been highly suspicious. It would have made more sense to embed an unknown into the 666th. SM Stasi seem like a bunch of clowns to me.
>>141272122
Beatrix told her she'd reunite her with her brother and told her to get Theo on their side if possible.
tl;dr Anime
>>141272179
As if it`s any less of a bad move if it`s in a different medium.
Why are you using anime as a scapegoat if original material is not up to par?
>>141272122
Beatrix seems to only to have chosen her only on the merit of how much damage she could do to the 666th unit cohesion. While everyone suspects her in the LN/VN as well, she is much more effective there. She was never meant to be a spy, there where already informants among the mechanics and the Werewolves had a platoon with the task of shadowing frontline units and intercepting communications.
>>141272354
>unit cohesion
As Iris being a top platoon leader can`t request someone else.
How hard would you beat Gretel?
>>141272559
Until she stops pissing on the expensive rug.
>>141272559
Entirely unimportant. She`ll take off her glasses, tie up a ponytail, and goodbye.
>>141272354
Why would anyone willingly serve the stasi in Muv-Luv? They don't even try to cover up how bad they are. ML stasi will abduct, torture, and rape you for the lulz. Schmidt running concentration/death camps is even an open secret (even the Nazis tried to cover that shit up from their citizenry). I think most people like to think they're working towards something good, so the stasi proclaiming their ridiculous evil to the world would not earn them very many fans or informers. I mean, would you really sign onto work under someone who you knew would force you to blow up yourself and your family because it's EVUL MUWAHAHAHA. No, you'd think they were insane.
Axmann is a hero who did nothing wrong!
>>141272833
Except nazis didn`t. Kind of hard to hide PoW camps anyway.
>>141272881
Him and Squealer.
>>141272891
The nazis denied shit like Auschwitz. They were always trying to pain themselves as the good guys.
>>141272993
>Ketchup will never teach you how to treat girls right
>>141273017
Oy vey.
>>141272881
Beatrix did nothing wrong.
>>141273147
She was born female and deserves to be bullied for that.
>>141273147
Most certainly.
>>141273147
She sent Lise of all people in.
>>141273217
lise wanted to go because muh onii-chan
>>141273268
Who even cares what Lise wants?
Jurgen`s legacy can`t be predicated on some whore`s whims.
I want Beatrix to have a nightmare where Jurgen insults her, tells her he never cared about her and pisses on her
>>141273185
I want to bully her vagina so that my child may bully her womb for the next 9 months.
Homolust in Muv-Luv when?
>>141273405
>Jurgen insults her, tells her he never cared about her
Good, good!
>pisses on her
You have no sense of style, anon.
>>141273463
Not until we get full-blown lesbianism first with all these female troops.
>>141273474
Beats her up then?
>>141273560
I really think this sort of thing should have happened by now. Those ERECT NIPPLES IN SKINTIGHT SUITS demand it.
>>141273560
>tfw no Lise showing Katia things she was taught by Stasi
>>141273463
>implying
>>141273560
What about Lise "I slept with a girl my age and enjoyed it" Hohenstein.
>>141273568
She'd probably get off to it. There's nothing Jurgen could do that she wouldn't twist around into him wanting to get into her.
>>141273463
That's what you have Ikaruga and Makabe for.
>>141273419
Now this is some next level bullying.
>>141273405
After a dream like that she will have to take it out on someone. Himbeertorte anyone?
>>141273568
Might turn her from an S into a M.
>>141273630
>What about Lise "I slept with a girl my age and enjoyed it" Hohenstein.
I'd like some clarification on that.
>>141273725
Some things are better left shrouded in mystery.
>>141273612
>I really think this sort of thing should have happened by now.
I was thinking the same thing. You'd think that with very few men around, there would be more openly lez women, or at least a ton more yuri antics in the vein of "no homo."
I was in the military and I remember a lot of pretty gay things happening out of boredom and no women around. Female troops wouldn't be different at all.
>>141273834
>the source material is only 1/7 translated, the VNs aren't even complete yet, and I'm left here to twiddle my thumbs in speculation with only the anime for first hand reference.
Guess I'll start learning Kanji. Will probably be just as fast as waiting for Alternative Projects.
>>141274304
Nice.
>>141272559
How hard to do you need to regulate on a bitch to remove communism?
>>141274304
That's a scary mons-- oh wait, that's just Irisdina.
>>141274304
Not bad. Hopefully we get a Beato fig soon.
>>141274304
Terrible. Skintight suits or military uniforms please. Swimsuits and such are cancer among Muv-Luv figures.
>>141274410
The most we got is a daki. Iris sells better, so they'll keep making figures of her.
I want to drug Irisdina with something that would make her susceptible to suggestion, make her praise Satan and be generally blasphemous, video-tape it and show it to her when the drug wears off.
>>141274503
>eroshit series
>swimsuits and such are cancer
>>141274705
"You drugged me, you sick fuck!"
![2000px-The_Normal_Distribution.svg[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/y0TdJPC.png "2000px-The Normal Distribution.svg[1]")
>>141274019
>with very few men around
The original VN plays that up to a demographically absurd level, though.
It could be believable in Japan simply because they were so devastated by the invasion so recently. As opposed to the U.S., which has never hit the same level of desperation, or the EU, which would have had more than a decade to suffer from any demographic crisis it might have had.
New chapter of the Alternative manga translation is out!
http://www.tonigobe.net/?p=5174
>>141274705
How cruel!
>>141274791
I wonder if she'd beat me like she did with my hero.
>>141274019
You badly overestimate the amount of lesbians.
Like any other head cases, there are but a few.
>>141274925
I think his point is that they would be doing gay things as a result of a lack of options, like dudes in prison.
>>141275062
Poopdick dudes in prison are a minority too, though.
Their whole setup is dumb, who sends their wombs to fight? Men are much more disposable, it`s the goddamn biology!
>>141275160
>Their whole setup is dumb, who sends their wombs to fight? Men are much more disposable, it`s the goddamn biology!
cuntries that don't have dicks anymore
>>141275160
>Their whole setup is dumb
This is Imperial Japan we're talking about, the same country that blew the full R&D costs of a third-generation TSF on a unit they could make a couple dozen of.
>>141275237
Yes, but how did they mange to get to the point where they needed to mobilize 50+ million soldiers, then lose all of them and not cease to exist as a nation?
>>141275237
Dicks can be grown again at smaller cost that wombs. And countries that literally have no dicks quickly stop existing.
>>141275160
And that's why we need more men like Ted Bundy, to make whores expendable like they should be. They're all dumb and worthless so they should be the one worthy of dying.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i_sPUOoS4LI
>>141274925
I was mostly referring to things like pic related.
>>141274733
>eroshit series
>can't romance canonically hottest girl
>kill her brutally instead
>>141276013
Better dead than deflowered
>>141276013
And thus we continue on Mr. Koukis endless ride.
>>141276263
Fuck off Cookie.
You've disappointed many dicks.
>>141276013But do you KNOW
>>141276263
Didn't Theo break her hymen with his ciws?
>>141276386
Lise is cute. But Nomenklatura-hime is hot.
>>141276498
Ripping it apart with a Knife doesn't count.
>>141276498
Silly, you can only get deflowered by a dick.
Even tentacles and dildos don't count.
>>141276678
>>141276539
I guess Jurgen's Red Rose remains pure then.
>>141276870
Pure body, filthy mind and heart.
>>141276941
Vengeance and hatred isn't filthy Anon, its just a different kind of pure.
Who was right, anons?
>>141277394
Suzy is shit and unattractive, so she loses by default.
>>141241030
I think it's funny that Walter had a crush on Beatrix when he was younger, and young Sylwia looks like a young Beatrix.
>>141277394
It's ironic that these two basically believe the same things of each other.
>>141277394
Beatrix. She is basically a German Yuuko without a morality chain, and Yuuko saved mankind. with some help of course.
>>141277394
Lise was more in the right than the both of them.
She just wanted to fuck off.
Katia wins with a landslide for unification though.
>>141277561
>fuck DDR population, let`s all die defending the euroshlomo like good goyim
>>141277590
>unifying soviets and burgers
Bringing down the wall was a mistake.
>>141277633
Mr. Cohen false flagging doesn't work round these parts.
>>141277648
>burgers
Burgers are on the other side of the ocean. You meant krauts, and it wasn`t a mistake at all.
>>141277725
Mr. Cohen has nothing on me, for I`m just telling the truth.
>>141277773
>west
>not burgers
Loving burgers is the same as being burgers, your birth isn't important, your mentality is.
>>141277855
Nope. Krauts have their can of worms, and burgers theirs.
>>141277842
Sure thing Kike, we all know you all move your asses to Yankeestan when the going gets though.
>>141278013
Ok
>Careful analysis suggest that, on average, dead personnel have extraordinarily low mission success rates.
>>141278013
You`re way behind the curve here goyim. We`re planning sinocrypsis already!
>>141264054
No she didn't. Japan went with the Gekkou and it is now being used by the Valkyries which all said they preferredit.
>>141276013
Don't fucking remind me.
Holding out hope for secret route.
>>141276498
He doesn't penetrate her womb as far as we see. At least in the anime, it's off center.
As far as we know.
>>141278538
But why would they buy the better machine for the Imperial Amy? Wouldn't that endanger the specialness of the IRG
>>141278573
Well if the Lise route goes in the non-boring direction and we get Werewolf Theo there will most likely be a lot less penetration heading in Bea's direction.And a lot more penetration for Lisesexually
>>141278573
Better keep dreaming about that Bernhard im Schatten VN.Too bad worst end is the only possibilty.
>>141278664
>But why would they buy the better machine for the Imperial Amy?
Because it's better.
>Wouldn't that endanger the specialness of the IRG
No, they still have their special machines.
>>141278883
At least we'll get some very nice and cute stations on the way to that nasty end.
>>141278664
>But why would they buy the better machine for the Imperial Amy?
Because it makes sense?
>>141278664
>But why would they buy the better machine for the Imperial Amy?
If they went with the Gekkou, they didn't.
>>141278664
As if it were in the interest of the shogun to have that bunch of plotting and backstabbing noblemen and -women having the muscle to force their stupidity through.
>>141275742
It'd be pretty hot if Muv-Luv girls were slapping each others' asses.
>>141277474
>be friends with this girl
>she's intelligent, funny, great to talk to, and probably one of the most beautiful women you've ever seen
>develop a crush on her
>turns out best bro has already claimed her
>many years later, you fail to save her
>you move on and get a pretty great waifu (who looks kind of like your old crush)
>end up having to fight your old crush
>probably still have some lingering feelings for her despite your waifu
>try to save her again, but it only sets her off and she kills you instead
Must've sucked to be Walter.
>>141278982
You know there's a slightly better picture of the kiss here >>141273147, right?
>>141278852
I just want handholding and tearful hugs during sex.
>>141279124
They already do.
>>141278852
Do you think there will be a bad end where Lise's kills Theodore?
>>141279379
Thus it is in the Shoguns interest to give the Army the best possible Mechs so that they can act as a counterbalance to the IRGC.
>>141279328
Protect her smile and thats exactly what you're gonna get
>>141279317
Well when you put it that way I guess Walter and Theo have a bit in common.
>>141279541
No
>>141279541
Wouldn't doubt it. I think it everyone is going to get in on the Theo life-pie at one point or another.
>>141279666
Whelp I said no but can't argue with those numbers. If she does kill him for one reason or another it will most likely be a murder/suicide.
>>141279666
Gretel is like responsible for the majority of his bad ends in Blood Emblem alone.
>>141279587
They why did they buy the Gekkou instead of the Shiranui II?
>>141280155
Because they believed in the Stealth gimmick.
>>141278883
Beatrix at least got Jurgen's scarf in the end, right?
>>141280155
Because Shiranui II is actually worse than the original Shiranui.
>>141280259
But the Silent Eagle can't stealth good at all.
>>141280529
That's the reason its a gimmick and not a feature.
>>141280469
Shiranui II is better than most TSF like the Terminator, Raptor, and any Eagle variant.
I want to cuddle Irisdina during the winter to stay warm.
>>141281311
So in the end, who did Jurgen love more?
>>141281311
dream on i guess
>>141277394
Both of them were right about each other, but the stasi hurt humanity's efforts way more then the rebels. If it wasn't for people like Beatrix, then the rebellion would never have even existed in the first place.
>>141284535
I want to suck on those tiddies.
>>141286084
Best girls.
Best Girl:
Meiya
Second Best Girl:
Marimo
Third Best Girl:
Kei
Meh Tier:
Everyone else
>>141286164
They grew up together, were best friends, then worst rivals, and then died together (Iris only outlived Beatrix by something like 15 minutes).
>>141276678
What about Sumika?
>>141286164
Irisdina
23-year-old 172cm B93 W58 H87
-Liz
18-year-old 160cm B88 W57 H86
-Katya
15 years old 155cm B75 W56 H81
-Annette
18-year-old 163cm B81 W57 H81
-Gretel
20-year-old 165cm B75 W56 H80
-Pham
22-year-old 168cm B97 W64 H93
-Theodor
18-year-old
-Beatrix
23-year-old 180cm
>>141286703
>Beatrix
>180
Dayum.
Finally finished TDA 02
Poor meiya never gave up....but yet pic related seems to have become unsociable and dead inside/
>>141262600
Where's healinganon when you need him.
>>141277855
Is burger meant to be an insult? I was thinking about it today, and I realized that I like cheeseburgers at least as much as foreigners on the internet apparently think I should, if not more.
Burgers are awesome, so calling me a burger means you think I am also awesome.
>>141248939
>Sumika getting gouranga'd
FTFY
>>141288132
indeed.
>>141288115
>Burgers are awesome
You see, that's the thing, though.
They really are.
>>141260497
>at least until very recently
Thanks, Ohbummer!
>>141260776
Even then it doesn't work.
>>141260824
We're more concerned about being stiffed by the system, which is inevitable when there's only one provider. Also, it's not uncommon for the gummint to use its bureaucracies against those it deems inconvenient (the IRS is has a long history of being used toward this end).
Degica or Age better provide more fuel for these threads. I feel that they're finally starting to slow down.
>>141288212
Happy end when
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>>141289351never
>>141261720
>private doctors are banned from providing services that the state provides
>It's one of the ways the original Trudeau made sure doctors would go along with his health reforms.
Sounds like a racket.
>>141289223
We had some dude drop a ton of HD scans eariler in this thread.
We know that Martyrs is getting a big event planned for June.
ML will be out on Steam soonish.
BiS is ending soon.
We're in a lull right now, sure, but it's simply the calm before the storm. Besides, most of the dedicated posters will migrate back to /m/ if discussion totally dies on /a/.
>>141289507
SM/a/ posts more in one day then S/m/ does in a whole month.
>>141289718
Keep your fingers crossed for Extra.
>>141289507
>/m/
>its a 23 day old thread
damn
>>141290054
When they chased the LNfags out, they ended up chasing most of the more creative posters out to. This was compounded by the fact that a bunch of their more well known and less cancerous tripfags (most of the guys who dumped shit for them) also decided to jump shark around the same time.
It'll be a sad day when /a/'s threads die out. I don't think the Chinks and Japs who populate our threads and give us all the nice new content will go to /m/ in the end.
>>141289507
>ML will be out on Steam soonish.
cant wait for the influx of butthurt soon
>>141286909
Because Sumika died. She was his sun.
>>141288458
Actually it is that good.
>>141289479
>Sounds like a racket.
It's amazing that it manages to be exactly that, and still cost ten percent of our GDP.
>>141286909
Losing most of your friends in an operation and surviving alive back from that only to find out that the brain jar was actually his childhood friend's brain.
>>141290479
and then finding out that he probably got fucked over by Yuuko and then finding out that one of your friend actually didn't die and became a shogun would not be surprising he died inside
>>141289507
I don't think any of the dedicated posters even go to /m/. I can't say I've ever been there.
>>141290773
I love how completely clueless they are for the most part.
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