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Chunibyo: Not flop
Tamako Market: Flop
Free: Not flop
Kyoukai no Kanata: Flop
Amagi: Flop
Euphonium: Flop
Phantom World: Flop

What are they going to do with all these flops and no cash cow?
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You know what's a guaranteed non-flop?
Haruhi S3.
There's plenty of material for a 2-cour and a movie.
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It doesn't matter they make tons of dosh off of merch.
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Really, Chuunibyou was complete garbage.
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https://twitter.com/erkin_kawabata/status/589384655796731904
>KyoAni shows aren't very high-budget and in fact below average
Euphonium wasn't a flop. It profited comfortably with its sales numbers. That's why it got a S2.
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>>139619069
It's their fault for letting some contest decide what they animated next.
Chuu2 killed Haruhi.
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daily kyoanus circlejerk
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>>139619080
Moral of the story: don't adapt your own shitty novels, adapt someone else's critically acclaimed novels.
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how do i read this
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hibikeks
lol
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>>139619113
>>139619278
>>139619453
Nice and blatant samefag
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>>139618938
Tamako Market: 4.8k
Kyoukai no Kanata: 5.8k
Amagi: 6.7k
Euphonium: 8.3k
None of these are flops.
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Phantom World's first BD is released today right?
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>>139618938
They should animate hinabita next.
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>>139618938
Add the Free movie to the flops.
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>>139618938
Make Haruhi S3.
Maybe if they get desperate enough, here's hoping.
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Clannad 2: Tomoyo's Revenge when?
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>>139619631
No, tomorrow.
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>>139618938
>Amagi: Flop

It hurts

>>139619040
>merch
they barely have any for the amount of series they have done
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>>139620035
>they barely have any for the amount of series they have done
They have an entire location in Tokyo just dedicated to selling shit.
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>>139620035
Amagi didn't flop though.
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>>139618938
The only thing that's flopping are Mai's tits
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>>139619080
>>KyoAni shows aren't very high-budget and in fact below average

and yet they look the best of any studio. even if you hate the plots, the kyoani hate squad must admit at least that much. they are masters at direction and subtle animation.
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What is your favorite and least favorite Kyoani show?

Favorite: Haruhi
Least: K-On!
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>>139618938
>What are they going to do with all these flops and no cash cow?
But Free was a cash cow.

DVD and BD made bank, Novels sold out, figures and merchandise exploded.
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>>139620187
Favorite: Hibike
Least: Clannad
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>>139620187
Tamako Market
Free
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>>139620187

Favourite....well most bearable: Hyouka
Least: Euphonium.
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>>139620084
>They have an entire location in Tokyo just dedicated to selling shit.

not enough scales

>>139620100
S2 WHEN
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>>139620187
Brilliant Park
Free
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>>139619180
I feel like it's been ages since I've seen a Tessaposter.
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>>139620136
This is because they generally work with very small but well-managed and extremely talented staffs. The small staffs mean they don't have to pay as much as studios using large staffs, but their skillful workers and skillful staff management lead to them outperforming the much larger staffs of other studios.
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>>139620187
Haruhi
Chuunibyou
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>>139619494
The "how do i read this" meme is a shitpost for sales threads, not KyoAni threads like the other posts. Please delete your post so people don't think /a/ is full of newfags.
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Haruhi movie>FMP fumoffu>nichijou>FMP SR>hyouka>chuu2 s1>hibike>free>>>>shit>>>>KnK>tamako market everything else is awful and not worth mentioning.
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>>139620187
Favorite: Clannad
Least: Phantom World
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>>139619069
Season 1 was okayish, the 2nd was what destroyed the franchise to oblivion.
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>>139620187
Favorite: K-On!
Least: Air
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>>139620619
They kinda have too many episode directors. I hope they go back to 2 cour series!
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>>139620750
1. K-On!
2. Lucky Star
3. Tamako Market
4. The Disappearance of Haruhi Suzumiya
5. Clannad
6. Kyoukai no Kanata
7. Amagi Brilliant Park
8. Chuunibyō demo Koi ga Shitai!
9. Hyouka
10. The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya
11. Nichijou
12. Full Metal Panic? Fumoffu
13. Hibike! Euphonium
14. Kanon
15. Air

None of them were bad
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>>139620187
Favorite: K-On!
Least: Hyouka

They're like the polar opposites of boredom for me: lazily enjoying yourself and making great memories with friends vs being a miserable black hole of apathy.
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FACTS, FACTS, GET YOUR FACTS HERE, STRAIGHT FROM THE OVEN, FRESH FACTS

Nothing above 3k is a flop by the way.
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>>139621818

fuck off digibro
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I feel eupho would sell better if they had gone full yuri and not pussy out.
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>>139620187

10/10:
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9/10
-

8/10
-

7/10
-

6/10
Full Meta Panic 2nd Raid
Full Metal Panic Fumoffu
Haruhi
K-ON!
K-ON!!
Amagi Brilliant Park

5/10
Nichijou
Hyouka
Chuu2
Musaigen Phantom World

4/10
Lucky Star
Chuu2 Ren
Free!
Hibike! Euphonium

3/10
Clannad AS
Tamako Market
Kyokai no Kanata
Free! ES

2/10
Clannad
Haruhi 2009

1/10
Air
Kanon

0/10
Your taste
Your opinion
Your life
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>>139623055
>>>/u/
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>>139623066
>he didn't like Endless Eight
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>>139623209
No, I fucking did not. I hated it then and I hate it now. Don't even keep it on my HDD.

8/8 Kyoani, consider me trolled.
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>>139622857
It really bothers me to see Euphonium so low. It was such a well-told story and it felt more realistic than 99% of other shows. How often do you get to see the growth of not only the MC, but her entire concert band as well? I know it wasn't a "flop" but goddamn Japan buy some more fuckin BDs.
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>>139623055
>He thinks yuri sells
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>>139623326
I expected it to sell more, even though I didn't really enjoy it that much.
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>>139623326
I'm sort of expecting it to reach 12k when it's rereleased.
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hyouka is just haruhi with none of the fun but all of the self-importance
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>>139623326
I just realized there are 2 female uniforms. Why is that?
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>flop

Aaand you're retarded.

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/interest/2015-05-27/anime-studios-success-calculated-based-on-10-years-of-disc-sales/.88558

>Most Successful Anime Studios Based on Series' Disc Sales (2005-2014)
>Kyoto Animation
>Total Series Produced: 20
>Total Sold 3,000+ Discs: 18
>Success Percentage: 90.0%
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If you rank Free above anything else they've made, even Chu2 Ren, Munto, or KyoukaiNK, then it's a scientific fact you score higher than 0 on the Kinsey scale and probably at the very minimum fap to futanari couples or traps.
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>>139623628
Hyouka was more fun for me, Haruhi was too LN cliche.
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>>139623696
Summer (white) and winter (brown). You should also notice the boys take off their gakuran coat when the colors change.
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>>139620187
Of those that I've seen,
Favourite: Phantom World. I'm almost ashamed at how much that series grew on me.
Least favourite: Hibikie. I got to the flash-back in the first episode. God damn that's boring.
I can't deny the work and love that was put into that project, but that show is not for me. I'll try again eventually.
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>>139623847
Free S2 was good though, homo.
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>>139620187

F: Hyouka
L: K-On
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>>139624067
not sure if serious
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>>139623066
worst opinion i ever read
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All their shows before Phantom shit did over 3k and got sequels/movies.
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>>139620187
Favorite: Keit-Ai
Least: Tamako
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>>139624173
Dead serious.
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>>139620187
F Sora no Woto
L Kokoro Connect
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>>139620187
Chuuni is the only one that I actively dislike, and mostly due to season 2.
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>>139623370
That fate loli yuri show seems to sell good enogh to get S3 and that yuru something seems to be popular. Also strike witches had flying lesbians with no pants and was popular
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>>139620187
talk about shit taste
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>>139618938
>Euphonium: flop
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Why don't they hire better directos
Yamada is the only one who can turn shit into gold
everything else has been a direct adaptation carried by the animation team not really the director
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Am I the only one who genuinely thinks that Amagi is the only good show to come out of post-Hyouka Kyoani? They need go back to being a buddies with Kadokawa and stop making mediocre to shitty adaptions of their own mediocre material.
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They should make Keit-ai.
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>>139624875
I've liked every literally single show they've made post Hyouka, though I haven't watched Free!.
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>>139624875
The only good anime Kyoani has ever made is Haruhi and Hyouka, everything else is just tastless moeshit/fujo/yuri pandering
I'm glad Japan is not buying their shit anymore(free movie flop and now phantom world)
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>Chuu2 - both seasons
22k

>Tamako Market
5k

>Free - both seasons
50k

>KnK
6k

>Amagi
7k

>Euphonium
8k

>Phantom World
2k projected

The only flop here is PW

Unless you consider everything below 10k a flop in which case 95% of the shows out there are flops
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>>139625097
>Mundane mysteries ft. self-insert protagonist and moebait heroine
>good

Kill yourself.
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>>139625223
I'm one of the biggest Kyoanifags and I never understood the love for Oreki.
He is easily my least favorite Kyoani character and was the biggest contributor to how boring Hyouka gets at times.
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>>139625171
>yfw Love Live alone sold more than all these anime combined
Based Sunrise
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>>139624600
anything that has to do with Fate will sell. The loli and fanservice is just the icing on the cake.
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Threadly reminder that KyoAni is the only studio who could make Otoyomegatari justice.
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>>139622857
>tamako sold worse than nichijou
bruh
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>>139625097
>muh sophisticated mysteries
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>>139625375
If you want to see it animated in the first place, you're already cancer.

No studio can animate well the likes of Vagabond, Berserk, BotI, Otoyomegatari, even Prison School, etc
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>>139623326
>5119x2880
>5119

RUINED IT
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>>139625375
>kyoani
>making anything but moeshit
Didn't you learn from Kyoukai No Kanata faggot?
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>>139618938
>Kyoukai no Kanata: Flop
No.
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>>139625343
LL S1 sold less than Free S1 though. And Season 2 sold that much because volume 1 was 50% off, it came with a chance ticket to be in the idol concert, and had a video game tie in the works. The drop from vol1 to vol2 was an astounding 50%~. Not to mention Sunrise is backed up by Namco Banjew.

All in all KyoAni > Sunrise
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>>139625444
Madhouse can animate Berserk and Vagabond
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>>139625444
trips of truth
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>>139624875
I don't feel that negatively about a lot of their more recent stuff, but there is a pretty strong chance that they're doing the new season of FMP, last I heard.
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This is now an anti anti-KyoAni thread.
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>>139625501
Kyoani revenue is laughable compared to Sunrise and Toei, the gap is just ridiculous.
Plus Sunrise is better than Kyoani even in quality.
Enjoy your phantom sales and the free movie kyoanus, oh and your LN sales too(None of kyoanus LN EVER CHARTED, even Velvet Evergarden flopped)
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>>139625736
Sunrise is gigantic and owned by a publicly traded company, of course the revenue and profit is going to be bigger.
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What's your opinion on the KyoAni patented 360?
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>>139620187
Favorite: Hyouka

Least: Haruhi

Hate : Haruhifags

How can anyone call a fanservice/otaku pandering show a masterpiece? Is ok if you like it but try not become delusional. No wonder the Japanese don't care about Haruhi anymore.
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Post Kyoani best gurl
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>>139625880
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q82FOFotCyg
Skip to 1:20
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What IP can save kyoani now? Seriously.
Free is dying, Hibike S1 sold 8k that's good but S2 will drop just like Free. Phantom World is hated everywhere.
Meanwhile, Shaft has Monogatari, Sunrise has Love Live, Madhouse One Punch Man, Kyoani??
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>>139626009
They will find a new relatively successful show like they've always done. Meanwhile SHAFT will keep milking Bake for another 50 years, Sunrise will forever stick to Gundam, and Deadhouse will barely survive with One Punchline Man. Talk about comfort zone.
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>>139625969
Sure, friend.

Here she is.
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>>139626135
>design a 10/10 character and then give her a 0/10 personality.
sasuga kyoani
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>>139625880
It's actually one of my favourite things that they do. Dynamic camera movement in 3D space is my fetish. There are a couple of good ones in KnK as well.
And I know it's not Kyoani, but there's that one neat hallway shot in the Kiznaiver trailer too.
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>>139618938
>Amagi: Flop
>Euphonium: Flop

t. brain damaged newfag
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>>139625969
How can this Lewd Lieutenant still be a virgin? Her body is literally made for breeding, what a waste.
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Since we all agree that Kyoani is the #1 best studio, who is in 2nd place?
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>kyoanus wont do FMP
>kyoanus wont do Rewrite
>kyoanus wont do Planetarian

They get neglected of every big project and their shit flops left and right, not even the comfort zone is safe anymore.
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>>139618938
>What are they going to do with all these flops and no cash cow?
go full pandering
or try to do something good for a change
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>>139626281
Dogakobo
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>>139626213
Kill yourself.

Shinka is literally the biggest bro and bestest friend in any kyoani show ever.
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>>139626281
Sunrise
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>>139620619
Also the costs to own a studio in Kyoto is a lot cheaper than Tokyo (everyone else is in Tokyo) they also only do 2 anime a year which gives them a lot of time to refine the animation, and they only adapt their own shit so they keep 100% of the profits.
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>>139626319
I'm sure they're the ones neglecting those. Gatoh has a pretty good relationship with KyoAnus and literally who studios will do Maeda's worst works.
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>>139626278
Male in magicland got no cock
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>>139626281
>Since we all agree that Kyoani is the #1
Nice try Kyoanus.
>>139626119
>They will find a new relatively successful show like they've always done.
They can't anymore.
not with their shit LN adaptations at least.
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>>139626319
>Kyoani won't do a show
>it turns out to be disappointing and shit
>everybody ends up wishing it was Kyoani

I guess the only way is to clone Kyoani
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>>139626415
Famous LN copyright is expensive
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>>139626431
Phantom World would have been ok if it was done by another studio, the source material was better than the crap that we've got
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>>139626415
High Speed and Chuu2 are unknown shit LNs and they still managed to make the shows successful.
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>>139626431
>Kyoani does a show
>it turns out to be disappointing and shit
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>>139626496
That'll be in the future. When Kyoani begins to license off their LN to other studios to be adapted.
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>>139626596
It'll still sell like shit though.
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>>139626431
>watching show
>"Man, this would have been so much better if it was by Kyoani"
Every time
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>>139626346
Simply false.
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>>139626596
Who would want their LN? they don't have a single succesful LN
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>>139626346
>biggest bro and bestest friend in any kyoani show ever.
Simply false.
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>>139626632
you only watch slice of life moe i presume?
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>>139626662
Basically everybody because all the other studios wishes they were GodAni
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>>139626708
Yes. Everything else is garbage.
Kyoani could bring back super robot mecha though, even after Gainax's laughable attempt with TTGL that was overshadowed by Lucky Star.
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>>139626729
he sais Kyoani AND Pa Works
And I'm sure as hell not even Deen want to be in Kyoani's position right now
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>>139626823
Even shaft wishes they were KyoAni.
Face it, you're just a little contrarian baby and your favorite studio wants to be KyoAni.
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>>139618938
Hibike in my opinion was an amazing show with a very good story and characters, yes Kyoani other in house material wasn't as good but Hibike was way better. Chunibyo was garbage too.
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Why can't more studios be like KyoAni?
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>>139626818
Nobody remembers Lucky Star
TTGL is a classic that is still talked about to this day
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>>139618938
Are they flops because /a/ dislikes them or are they actual flops like nichijou?
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>>139626913
Nobody but /a/ remembers TTGL. Everyone remembers Lucky Star
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>>139626919
They're flops because some autists on /a/ don't like KyoAni's work ethics and feel jealous.
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>>139626919
Kyoukai flopped economically I know that much.
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>>139626913
Lucky Star sold more and has constant clones every year.
Meanwhile nobody cares about mecha unless its gundam.

TSR was better directed and better animated than TTGL. In fact, TSR is the best directed mecha ever made.
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>>139626431
We must gather all their women and impregnate them with the next generation of kyoani.
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>>139625343
Well if we talk about numbers K-on was the first show to sell 500,000 BD
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>>139626892
Yep everyone wants to have LNS that never charts and shows like Phantom Sales Amagi and Hibike.
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I want Kyoani to make the next ____
Fill in the blanks. Xam'd for me.
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>>139627144
Other studios can't even afford their own LN division so yes that would be a step up for them.
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>>139627151
Full Metal Panic Fumoffu
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>>139627151
Cardcaptor Sakura
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Sometimes I wish I was rich to give KyoAni a couple billion dollars to buy and animate the remaining of Haruhi and Nichijou.
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>>139627151
Amaburi S2
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>>139627064
>TSR is the best directed mecha ever made.
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>>139620187
Hyouka
Air
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>>139618938

Good to know sales is what makes an anime good or not.

In this case, Infinite Stratos would be top 10 of all time.
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>>139627299
Air isn't even bad though.
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>>139620187
Favorite: Hyouka
Least favorite: Kyoukai no Kanata
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kyoanus fags talking about sales in a season where a Deen anime is selling four times more than a kyoanus show is just laughable.
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>>139623066

Seeing as how the art and music in KyoAni shows are always top tier, the absolute worst thing they could ever make would be a 5/10.
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>>139626583
Phantom world was actually good past episode 3.
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>>139627450
A polished turd is still a turd.
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>>139627325
Least favorite != bad
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>>139627450
>Seeing as how the art and music in KyoAni shows are always top tier

>Music
What?
And Phantom World is a 4
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>>139626892
>shaft
That was Kumeta making a joke ABOUT Shaft.
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>>139620187
Favorite: Haruhi
Least: Lucky Star
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>>139627437
90% of DEEN shows don't even make it to 3k in sales. One relatively successful show every 10 years isn't something to brag about.
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>>139627228
That's retarded. For a couple billion dollars you could animate every manga written in the past 10 years.

One anime episode costs less than USD100k on average, not including all the costs they'd recoup with BD sales.
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>>139624892
The combination of finding ways would break /a/.
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>>139627507
PW is a 7 that gets unnecessary hate for being a KyoAni school battle harem.
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>>139627543
Why would they even want to have a LN Division if all their LN are gonna flop like kyoani?
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>>139627507

Solid 6. Rare miss for them but still one of the better things last season. Which really says more about everybody else than it does KyoAni.
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>>139627144
Hibiki is not a LN? I thought it was a novel
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>>139627599
I would give them 1 billion/each so they could spend the rest on animation. 60fps hand drawn sakuga and extra attention to details. They would literally be the best animated shows of all time.
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>>139627629
Because it doesn't flop. The LNs might not chart but clearly makes some money which is why they're constantly releasing new ones.

Well other studios can't even make this choice because they aren't as advanced or independent as GodAni.
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>>139627507
Did you finish it? It's actually a lot of fun. Some solid fights too.

>>139627722
Give that to I.G., and we'd have hand-drawn VR anime. Make the right choice.
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>>139627761
keep telling yourself that, there's no hope for their LN divison if even Velvet Evergarden their award winning LN didn't even chart.
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>>139627928
Keep telling yourself nobody wants to be KyoAni when they've already said they do
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>>139627722
Nigga, PLEASE.

Even fucking Redline, 7 years fully hand-drawn Redline, didn't cost more than USD20m.

Anime is cheap as fuck to produce, animators are bottom-of-the-barrel wageslaves, which is why there are over 300 of them produced every year.
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>>139627977
Who said that? The trigger guy? He also said he wanted to be Pa Works.
Come back to me when a Kyoani LN manages to chart, faggot.
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>>139628015
Redline didn't have unlimited budget like my fantasy HaruhiS3/NichijouS2
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>>139628015
>there are people on /a/ right now who wants to work in the anime industry
Just why.
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>>139619080
PR bullshit.
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>>139620187
Favorite: Nichijou
Least favorite: Chuuni season 2
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>>139619080
So basically Kyoani is more efficient and manages their money better than other studios. Not surprised.
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>>139628327
Because Weebs are stupid.
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>>139620187
Favorite : After all these years, still Clannad
Least : Kyokai no Kanata
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>>139628639
>trusting twitter
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Phantom World had the best soundtrack of the season, it was very Nintendo-like. Grimgar's music was just too tryhard and not even original.

https://u.pomf.is/zatdxp.webm
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>>139628990
This.
It's not like we have numbers to compare.
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>>139623847
i broke kinsey scale, motherfucker
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Lol @ all you niggers taking this bait serious.
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>>139629724
be nice
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>>139629810
K
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>>139629890
Say Okay, not K, It's rude.
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>>139620187
Hyouka
Phantom World
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>>139623293
Put on your trip again faggot
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>>139629931
Okay nevermind fuckface.
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>>139620187

Favorite: K-On!
Least: Haven't seen all of kyoani, so I'm gonna say Haruhi here.
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>>139618938
http://www.animemaru.com/op-ed-wow-you-guys-really-will-watch-anything-we-make/
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>>139631854
The author of this article sounds like a salty retard. Hope it's not you.
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>>139630863
Watch your language.
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Literally the only one that could potentially considered to be a flop is Tamako Market. It didn't reach 5k and is original so no LN to promote although they released one later on I believe. It did get a movie though so it must have done something right.

Everything else is fine, I don't know why someone would consider Amagi to be a flop with 7k sales and the fact that it was contract work for Kadokawa. Fucking retards.
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>>139625952
Even today, Japan cares more for Haruhi than it ever did for Hyouka, so there goes your argument.

>pandering
Literally Oreki
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>>139627228
>festival
So they'll adapt the entire mango
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>>139626954
nobody but /a/ has even heard of lucky star. anyone who has googled anime has watched ttgl
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>>139626913
>>139632604
>daily lucky star threads
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>>139628758

patrician taste
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>>139632659
You might be mistaking lonely Kagamin/spooky Tsukasa image dumps for Lucky Star threads since it's actually forbidden to talk about the show on /a/.
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>>139632770
It's still a LS thread which is literally all this argument needed.
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>>139620619
>This is because they generally work with very small
I love KyoAni, but please dont spread bullshit. KyoAni has 200 people working on it on permanent basis - the 2nd biggest studio in industry atm after Sunrise. (The rest just dont hire permanent stuff, but hire people for projects).
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>>139620619
>>139633810
Where is the evidence
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>>139633810
They have around 149 acording to the last report. And you seem to forget they also have their own shop and publish their own LNs, so not every one there works as an animator or is in any way related to making anime, some are just your run of the mill shop keepers.

Also new financial report is supposed to come out soon, we'll see if last year was lucrative at all for them.
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>>139634074
>soon
At the end of the year yes.
IG has, according to stock market data around 250 employees.
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>>139634257
Fiscal year just ended 5 days ago, now we just need someone to buy their financial report and post it.
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>>139620750
>chuu2 s1>hibike
Sure, and SAO is the best anime ever.
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>>139618938
OP the only unambiguous sales flop there is Phantom World, or at least will be given that it isn't out yet.
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>>139620187
Favorite: Clannad
Least: Kyoukai (Phantom World gave it a run for its money, though)
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>>139624600
>yuru something seems to be popular
And that's what this deserves.
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This thread still here?

/a/ sure rolls slowly right now.
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>>139633810
Not every employe is an animator
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