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>>139339728
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SlCRfTmBSGs
I work hard, and I do good, and I'm going to enjoy myself. I'm not going to let you restrict me.
Reminder we will all surely become fluent
midnight jap, I advent!!
>>139378718
that better be a fucking trap
Is "XだけXっといて" a particular grammar structure or does it just mean "All we did was X"?
>>139378279
Please tell me that's fake.
>>139379091
>Shogun, Nagasaki, Japanese citizen that knows 500 kanjis
Nope.
>>139378980
Aoba-san does look a bit like a trap, to be fair.
>>139379035
Yeah, that's what it means. Tae Kim does go over it.
I want to buy and put up some art / wall posters of great but still relatively accessible target VNs and I guess maybe LNs to motivate myself to study everyday. Any recommendations?
So far I'm thinking of Dracu Riot and Eustia.
>>139379181
>many people were saying i cant learn japanese
gee, i do wonder where he heard that
Anyone remember the name for this Accel World move? The kanji is
>宣告・貫通
I don't recall how it was translated into English.
anyone know somethis like this?
https://github.com/alb404/JLPT-one-kanji-a-day-wallpaper-set
its a wallpaper pack with 600 kanji.
>>139380195
nice virus
>>139380195
>only 600 kanji
>only 1 kanji a day
>after almost 2 years you would still know that little
>>139380086
jisho.org
>>139380086
>宣告・貫通による死
Read the English bit above that.
>>139380195
Use this wallpaper instead
>>139380335
1 kanji per day is pretty good for a Westerner. Japan isn't a Indo-European language after all.
>>139379421
Except no.
>>139379035
だけ can have a slightly different meaning as in できるだけ where it means "as much as I can" instead of "I only do". It basically means the same as ほど
>>139380345
>>139380410
Just figured it out. Accel World has the attacks in English and written in katakana but also has a kanji translation for the attack as well. Thanks for the help.
CoR manga covers, this time with Tezuka removed.
>tfw tired of learning Japanese
Not muramasa level, but above moege level, I think I'll stay in this hell for the rest of my life.
>>139380327
sure
>>139380335
ye its only 600, i would like to have a bigger pack. also its not only 1 per day, you can set the interval yourself in windows, i set it to 2-3 hours per picture.
its not really supposed to teach you a lot, but i think its a nice addition to always have 1 kanji on the screen
>>139380429
how would that help to their meanings? i guess its good to learn to spot certain kanji but not really if you have no clue what they mean
>>139380489
This. Also I'm pretty sure ~てなんだ is basically a weaker, more indirect version of てだめだ/てはだめだ. So, translating a bit liberally, it means "We shouldn't do (whatever) unrestrained", or something to that effect.
>>139380489
>>139379035
>>139379421
Well if it helps that bubble is in response to "結婚式はいつがいい？" asked by the girl after they had 1x paizuri and sex for the first time. Which is why I was thinking the verb + だけ "as much as I can/etc" meaning didn't exactly fit.
>>139380676
>he can't guess meanings of kanji just by looking at them
I'm tired of learning Japanese so I have a plan. I'm going to stop intensive reading. I'm going to let my mining deck run out of new cards, then I'll just do reviews. Meanwhile, I'll pick Core2k/6k back up and finish the final 4000 words I skipped last time I did it. I see no flaws in this plan.
>>139380613
That's enough to just learn by reading
>>139380606
appreciated
>>139380991
Reading easy stuff is too little to improve well and hard stuff is so uncomfortable I wont do it for pleasure
>>139380676
You really should be learning them in the context of words (the compounds on that wallpaper you post), preferably with the word being used in a sentence.
Site, area, place, location all have very similar meanings for example, but aren't always interchangeable, and might sound weird in certain situations.
I don't know of a specific wallpaper pack to download, but I have a few kanji list dumps if you want to make your own.
RTK 1 Kanji:
http://pastebin.com/kcbbv77U
JLPT Kanji:
http://pastebin.com/mEprdckT
Jouyou + Jinmeiyou Kanji:
http://pastebin.com/nxXicWEe
>>139381095
thank you i will keep that in mind, im still new and im just looking around for all kinds of resources and little helps so i thought the wallpaper thing was a neat little helper.
>>139380775
>>139379035
>Wait, hold on a second, I mean we had sex, but going that far right away is a bit…
Would that be about right?
>>139381428
I mean its best to buy a scroll for whatever game you're most motivated to play.
I would buy one for Kangoku Senkan 2/3 since that was my big game. You know?
嫌らしい
>>139381410
That would be my guess.
>>139380760
No, it implies the action is already done. It's more like やるだけやっといてから悪いが
>>139380775
So taking context into account it's like "Sorry for saying this after all that sex but..." implying hesitation about marriage
>>139381610
>No, it implies the action is already done
Ah. Yea, you're probably right. It lines up well with how なんだけど/アレだけど is usually used as well.
>>139381428
はなひら
アザナエル
FLYABLE HEART
蒼の彼方のフォーリズム
時計仕掛けのレイライン
大図書館の羊飼い
Steins;Gate
>>139381859
>FLYABLE HEART
RIP Agobarrier
>>139379689
Be a cool kid and get a Sen no Hatou poster before it even comes out. Also Baldr Sky
>>139379689
Motivation is a crutch and a temporary high. If you depend on motivation in order to do something then you will never accomplish any significant long-term goal. Willpower, a good work ethic, and developing a routine of studying/working towards your goal is what yields results. Needing to feel constantly motivated will work in the beginning, but that's about it.
Put this on the poster instead:
Listen here punk, you have a choice. Do the work, or don't. Laziness and procrastination are completely irrelevant. You CHOOSE. You choose to do the work, or you choose not to. If you choose not to, you're done, get out of here.
If you choose to do the work, then a schedule will keep you in the flow. Get a website / app that tracks completed tasks as a chain and then DON'T BREAK THE CHAIN!
>>139381068
if only there were a middle thing between easy and hard
>>139382083
>Get a website / app that tracks completed tasks as a chain
Any recommendations?
>>139382156
http://dontbreakthechain.com/what
simple version
habitica.com
gamified version
>>139382083
You forgot to say "radical freedom"
>>139382103
I dont think so, there doesn't seem to be much middle ground, its either really hard or it's really not. Its like when authors turn on their "high vocab" switch everything goes to hell
bitlasers
Is there any point in writing down stuff for memorization, if I'm not looking to learn how to write? Currently trying to learn katakana and I'm not sure if writing it down helps my memory more than simply reciting it in my head
>>139382212
Anki
best version
>>139382294
It helps some and it doesn't help others, you gotta figure out what works the best for you.
>>139382294
It does help, simply for the fact that writing it forces you to focus a little bit more.
Just learn the stroke order and write it a couple times if you're lazy, do it a bunch if it helps you focus.
>>139382327
That works too, but anki can derp it's stats sometimes due to date rollovers.
>>139382083
you know theres such a thing as long term motivation. its not necessarily ひらめき dude
thanks for posting though
>>139382473
Isn't motivation by nature of the word short term?
We got some bullshit motivational speech in college about the difference between motivation and discipline
>>139382610
No? Are you saying a VN you're excited about today suddenly is irrelevant to you tomorrow?
>>139382610
maybe you confuse motivation with inspiration
>>139382682
It's true though, it's very difficult to keep up long term motivation.
ESPECIALLY for beginners, it's a really common thing to be super motivated to learn the kana and then slowly fizzle out when the actual hard stuff is encountered. There's a reason why people look down on new years resolutioners etc.
"Motivation" has sort of morphed into this ephemeral inspiration / excitement that doesn't last for long.
what the fuck guys
did Hiro put in a upvote system?
What is this sou-da-ne shit?
>>139382964
4chan X's hilarious April Fools meme, kill yourself for using something that auto-updates.
>>139382992
It can be disabled, you know?
i want to use RTK but it doesnt really go over how to say the kanji
is it still useful or should i just stick to anki
>>139383119
Read the intro
Some of you guys complained about not being able to disable furigana when using furigana inserter in the OP vn reading setup, so i made a little plugin that works like furigana inserter's clipboard monitoring feature without the furigana bullshit. If you're interested you can download it here https://addons.mozilla.org/en-GB/firefox/addon/clipboard-inserter/
>>139383195
nice virus
>>139382992
Why?
>>139382818
set specific and attainable short term goals frequently and meet them
no i dont mean do the same amount of anki flash cards every day thats not how it works
>>139383154
ok i understand now
good luck with the cancer
>>139383243
nice meme
the source is available on my github and every addon needs to be verified by mozilla before it is published on their site.
Has anyone perused through MIT OCW's Japanese course materials? They have some readings and audio.
>立ちはだかる
>to stand in the way (esp. with legs spread out);
I'm having a hard time imagining this.
>>139383453
Like a capital lambda
>>139383453
>立ちはだかる
Can someone name their child 猫です?
>>139383533
w-whats the image for "step on my dick"?
>>139383635
That would be like naming your son "Hi my name is Steven".
>>139383818
>implying dumb blacks haven't done shit like that
>>139383635
The Japanese have a list of allowed names because they fear if they let people pick from anything then there would be people like you. I guess if you're not in Japan though you would be able to.
>>139383818
Yeah, but is it possible though? I was thinking of coercing a 日本の女 into doing that.
>>139383818
かっこいいな
>>139383866
That's offensive...
>>139382327
How many new cards a day do you do to end up with 400+ reviews a day?
I've been going easy with 20, and it keeps going up, at 200 right now. I'm not sure if that's because my retention sucks.
>>139384040It's true though, blacks name their kids the dumbest shit and you know it. I'll stop now because I don't want ot go too faroff topic but you know damn well that I am right.
>>139383866
I wonder if they made such a list because of this.
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jugemu
>>139384234
its cause if you could do anything you want names would actually be impossible to read
>>139382156
http://chains.cc
>>139383195
Simple and effective. Thanks for making this. I'll swap Furigana Inserter out for this in the pastebin if there are no objections.
>>139384973
If its definetely stable then do it
>>139385007
I'll put a link to it in the pastebin for now and then remove Furigana Inserter from it when the addon has fully gone through the review process (since right now it was only checked for security issues, but it doesn't seem buggy). Sound good?
anyone got any links to a decent kanji deck in anki? there's one specifically that i'm looking for but it seems to have disappeared off the internet
>>139385203
It was removed by the Japanese Secret Service.
for some reason, watching morning news tv on wilsonjj is inspiring.
>>139385519
>Being forced to cast the news alongside a giant stuffed yellow chicken
>>139384234
Oh wow, so that's a folktale. I thought it's just something MomoKuro came up.
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jnlffo-JZuQ
Post favorite words.
運動力
>>139385519
I feel like such a weeb thinking this, but they even make the fucking weather better. It's all happy and bright with little cartoon rainbows and doodles to signify temperature and shit.
>>139386327
ハンバーガー
>>139386327
古今東西
>left my reps until late at night for the first time in a long time
I'm slipping, don't let me fall!
>>139386943
Remember that Japan hates the weak.
>>139384043
You can see its pretty inconsistent. That's 32~ weeks of 10, 15~ weeks of 20, and 5~ weeks of 40.
This is probably a silly question, but is there any chance there's an equivalent to Orberg's Lingua Latina per se Illustrata? I'm working through Tae Kim now, but I'd like to have some content to read right away rather than waiting to finish Tae Kim to start Yotsuba.
>>139382404
>but anki can derp it's stats sometimes due to date rollovers.
Don't put anki off, problem solved
>>139387045
Remember that Japan hates whites.
The white man is the spic of Japan
Y'all know of any good 日本の martial industrial/neofolk?
Is やる actually ever used in the "give (to an inferior)" sense? Or is it just "do" 99% of the time?
>>139387609
教えてやる。
君は馬鹿だよ
>>139387353
No, sorry. I know some good neo-industrial and martial folk, but no martial industrial or neo-folk.
>>139387609
Yeah, it's useful when you talk about feeding the dog and the boku in the shed.
>>139387802
marial folk sounds good hit me like you had a tank top and I was your wife senpai
>it's reps time again
手伝ってください：
What's a better strategy?
>uisng a single, large Anki deck
>creating a different deck for mined words/different manga, VNs, books, etc
>>139388162
They will do literally the same thing, it's entirely up to you
>>139388024
I feel thesame, but once i start doing my reps I actually enjoy ituntil I hit those last 10~ words that I can't pass for the next 10 minutes constantly hitting again again again again
>>139388162
Just keep all your mined shit in one deck. You don't want the "context" to help you out here.
>>139388295
>until I hit those last 10~ words that I can't pass for the next 10 minutes constantly hitting again again again again
it hurts...
>>139388295
>until I hit those last 10~ words that I can't pass for the next 10 minutes constantly hitting again again again again
It's so fucking frustrating.
>>139388162
I keep all the mined vocab in one deck, I just have tags for the cards with Rikai's import settings. For example, "MinedVocab" and "VN_キミのとなりで恋してる！" (changing the 2nd tag to whatever I'm reading of course, just pulled the tag from the card I happened to be on).
It's not relevant at all to reviewing and it doesn't show anywhere on the card, but it's neat to be able to tell what I got the word from if the sentence isn't enough context to tell.
I also tag lewd words so I can move them into a different deck if I want to if I'm going to be studying in public where other people can see.
>>139378235
What's the minimum amount of hours you can put in a week and make ok progress?
I'm only recently realizing how much this is really gonna take. I need to learn this damn language before getting a job or else it's gonna be impossible.
>>139389193
Around 5 hours of anime daily
>>139387609
ナイキ
justやる
>>139387609
It would be extremely derogatory.
>>139389298
or extremely eroi
>>139389193
How fast do you want to learn?
If you want to be semi-fluent within a few years 6 hours of anime/jap tv a day + at least an hour of reps is the minimum.
>>139389348
you're a big 野郎
>>139389193
An hour a day is enough. More will give you more out of it. But any amount will make progress.
>>139389193
lots.
integrate it into your normal life. when you make it habit hours studying pass like nothing. you can also do it with a job just fine. people tend to have way more time than they think.
>>139388930
>>139388968
But then it clicks and the next day those cards are easy!Except when they aren't and it starts all over again
>>139388930
>>139388968
Those are pure ass for me because I know I don't know them, but when I start cycling through the same 10 really fast they click in my extemely short-term "remember this shit for the next 1-2 minutes and then discard it" memory, so I either do two cards and close anki only to come back 10 minutes later, which is annoying, or just finish the deck knowing I won't know any of these cards when they come up tomorrow.
>>139389193
Are you reading doujins in Japanese yet? If not start that immediately.
>>139389454
>over 20 years old
>an hour a day
You will NEVER learn japanese anon.
>>139389504
>tfw I can speedread dojin at a page per 3 seconds
>guessing the meaning right and finding it on the first page off jisho results
Praise be to Dekinai-chan and her infinite mercy!
It was 瀟洒 and elegant by the way.
>>139389482
there are some cards which just get me every time. they just don't stick at all. it's so frustrating to recognize a card every day, but not recognize it as a japanese word, but instead as "this shit i see every day and never get right"
..until it becomes a leech.
>>139389503
yeah same. yesterday i found myself clicking through the last 5, forgetting them every time, until i remembered not the actual words, but just the pattern of sounds which occurred as a result of cycling through the cards and hearing the pronunciation
>>139389193
>I need to learn this damn language before getting a job or else it's gonna be impossible.
>mfw I have had a very lax college life
>rarely had to do shit outside of college
>3 days a week, 16~ hours a week
>wasted it on video games and 4chan
>had a year of NEET after that
>wasted that doing literally nothing
>I'm now being forced into seriously looking for a job and now is the time I decide to learn Japanese
I started when I was in my first year (of 3) in college, did a few months, got 2k into core deck, then stopped because I was a weak fool who thought I could jump back on after a 2 week holiday. If I had not given up I'd atleast be able to read moege comfortably. I think about how much time I wasted on a daily basis. It hurts.
Anyway just do what you can I guess, but do it everyday. I'd recommend keeping up with your reps and doing at the very least an hour of reading/listening a day. If you can do more than that then do it, don't waste time like I did.
>>139389747
Who are you quoting?
>>139389913
>you:^)
>>139389913
It's "whom", you illiterate cunt. How do you expect to learn Japanese when you can't even get English right?
You're a fucking joke.
>>139390448
Quoting is a verb. Whom can not be the subject of a verb. who can be the subject of a verb.
Did you actually think who is short for whom and that they are not different words?
>>139390448
>comma outside a quotation mark
>>139390686
>Did you actually think who is short for whom and that they are not different words?
Not him, but I did think that.
>>139390686
Basically the english version of だ and です?
>>139390781
Basically if a sentance makes sense with he/she it will make sense with whom.
He are you quoting is wrong so whom are you quoting is also wrong.
She walked into a bar makes sense so whom walked into a bar also makes sense.
>>139390448
It should actually be "To whom do you quote".
t. meme
>>139390686
You are wrong and stupid. Check your facts.
>>139390775
>i never went to school
its a /djt/ discusses english grammar thread
Is this sentence grammatically correct? I just replied to a Nihonjin with this but now I think I got something wrong here:
私はでしょうですね。
>>139391358
I think でしょう is a sentance modifier. You give your opinion and then say でしょう.
>>139391418
But what if I'm giving an opinion and that's the core of the sentence?
>>139391040
Who are you quoting?
>>139390897
>Basically if a sentance makes sense with he/she it will make sense with whom.
It's the other way around, actually. "whom" goes with him/her.
>Who are you quoting?
>I am quoting he.
>Whom are you quoting?
>I am quoting him.
>>139391358
The only way that makes any sense is if you mean you would use でしょう in some sentence instead of something else
>>139391418
>>139390897
>sentance
Cease speaking English immediately, I beg of you.
>>139391570
Shit yeah thats right. I got the examples right and the description wrong.
>>139391681
そうだろう
>>139391681
This is a Japanese learning thread and i'm the only one who helped him. Fluent people make retarded typos quite a lot
>>139391720
>I got the examples right
No, you did not. "Whom are you quoting" is correct.
>>139391488
Post an example I don't really understand your question
>>139391358
yes
>>139391776
yesですね
>>139391358
That doesn't make much sense, anon. でしょう usually comes at the end of the sentence since it's a modifier.
Any update on the missing manga in the CoR
>>139392952
Any update on that genital wart?
I can't read most stuff okay but struggle with longer snetences that go on and forget what they were talking about what do?
>>139393249
break it down figure it out
>>139393249
*can read most stuff okay
>>139393240
Yes. It's gotten worse. They said they might have to amputate my chinko.
>>139393249
First must coherent the sentence of the posting for full comprehend of the regular fluent DJT persons.
>>139393249
read more
>>139393249
see a doctor for your alzheimer's
>>139393293
>>139393297
>>139393301
>>139393343
>>139393361
>>139393484
what's with all the yous i dont remember posting
i can read stuff by all of the popular childrens authors such as meteor romeo maruto narahara scaji uchikoshi etc just fine but my question is how can i forget japanese so i can go back to admiring these peoples works from afar without being able to understand them because thats when life was more interesting
How is it recommended to read Tae Kim in conjunction with the deck in the sticky? Just read it all in one sitting? Is there a anki deck thats recommended for use alongside Tae Kim?
>>139393808
>あの頃に戻れないその気持ち
>>139393808
I feel you bro but you just gotta suck it up and move onto real good shit like akutagawa ryuunosuke and koubou abe
>>139393984
だが実は日本の漫画や小説を分かれるってことが気持ちいいぃぃだよねぇ
>>139389298
I've seen protags say やるよ in eroge to girls
I'm too beta to say it but "extremely deragatory" is a bit of an exaggeration it hink
>土地持ってるから裏口に違いない
I understand everything separately, but I can't put it together. 助けてえええええ
>>139394245
What were they saying right before this? I have a feeling they've dropped some things and what they mean is something like "Since you own the lot you must (know about) a rear entrance"
>>139394245
The pleasure of coming through the rear entrance.
>>139394359
The dude was saying the purple haired girl in Majikoi was a good student, right after she dissed him calling him a gorilla.
>>139394450
dude you suck at this
You realize you could just take a picture of the backlog and have a question that isn't shitty right?
>頼りにしているよ, x!
Rely on me x or I'm counting on you x?
>>139394538
why would it be the former honestly theres no command in there bro
>>139394081
i dont wanna read shit by dead old dudes though theres no magic surrounding normal lit
>>139394116
気持ちじゃねー
エロゲ最高だけど中には何も存在しねー
全部幻だったなだ
>>139394588
It just kinda felt weird for that character to rely on someone else.
What's the most kawaiiest accent to learn?
>>139394839
his family owns land so he came in through the back door
>>139394839
Well I don't know about the 土地持ってるから part but I think you had a big misunderstanding here
>The dude was saying the purple haired girl in Majikoi was a good student,
よく学校入れたよね
"Amazing that they let you in this school Gakuto..."
裏口に違いない
must have gotten in through a (metaphorical) back entrance
Would have helped if you also had left in the names in the conversation if they were there
>>139395269
his family doesnt own the land so he didnt come in through the back door because its in a prestigious location so he studied his ass off to get in
>>139395360
>島津岳人 (しまづ がくと)
>C.V.ボブ松沼
>川神市に多くの土地を有する島津家の嫡男にして
fuck you for making me look up things I don't give a shit about
>>139395327
>よく学校入れたよね
>"Amazing that they let you in this school Gakuto..."
That's some expression with よく?
>>139395701
I really hope Majikoi isn't the first thing in Japanese you've read, you're ruining what's an absolutely amazingly good VN.
>>139395766
Person who read it as an EOP detected
>>139395766
>absolutely amazingly good VN.
lol
>>139395766
I picked it up last time you posted that picture.
>>139395327
土地持ってるから裏口に違いない
its your land so no doubt you found your way in through the back door
俺様が死ぬ気で勉強したの知ってるだろうが
but you know i fuckin studied my ass off dude
>>139395451
sorry dude just a little 悪ふざけ
>>139395701
its not actually a big deal or any deal at all actually
>>139395766
takahiro is a piece of shit
>>139395766
Hilarious.
I'm done, I can't learn Japanese, you were right.
The sentence structure is too alien to me, I literally cannot interpret any sentence correctly unless it's one I've seen before, it feels more like I'm memorizing entire sentences rather than learning anything.
I lost.
>>139396321
Watch anime for 5 years and try again, I promise it will go a lot smoother
>>139395701
>>139396321
After seeing this shit, this is exactly what I'm thinking.
Not the quitting part though, cause I'm not a bitch.
>>139396321
>he believed the "learn grammar in a month" meme
>>139395207
Bump
>>139396321
Any language is basically different combinations of the same sentence parts. After a while there won't be many "new" sentences grammatically. Read more and you'll get used to it.
>>139396321
maybe its because you cant handle the wealth of options before you so you just hold on to whole sentences for some semblance of structure
though it is true people say the same shit in everyday life however you dont always have to say things in the same way so good luck with your tyler kims and flash cards and shit dude
>>139396321
>EOPs
>>139396321
Watching all that anime really paid off, fuck grammar.
>>139396321
Literally read more.
>>139395207
Hokkaido ben.
したっけべわ
>>139396522
You say this, but how was I supposed to know or find about >>139395701?
It seems that If I just keep reading I might learn shit wrong.
>inb4 post sentences you don't get here
If I did that I would be accused of spamming since there are so many, and even more that go past me, like the one I mentioned earlier.
What you guys think about Assimil?
>>139396593
oh my god its ltuierally the same thing as よくできた
please dont give up over this
>>139396593
>It seems that If I just keep reading I might learn shit wrong.
shit's pretty obvious from context especially if you watch anime and hear how people say it
It's not like the meaning has changed from the obvious meaning, it's just that it's used in a sort of sarcastic way
it's easy to get shit wrong the first time but it's pretty hard not to figure it out by the 50th time
>>139396593
if I knew a kanji for every time I saw よく being used like that I'd be chinese
>>139396593
You don't need to understand every sentence perfectly as you go. You would come to understand that sentence by seeing よくできた・よくXした said frequently after someone does something well.
>>139396593
Rome wasn't built in a day, chill out and reference the Tae Kim again, we're all in this ship together, let us help each other.
>>139396701
Maybe Taiwanese
>>139396664
>please dont give up over this
You got me confused with the other guy.
>>139396831
its mostly a in general thing for all my 愛おしい出来ないの可愛い子ちゃんs
My tomodachis can you tell me if I understood this correctly
In the third sentence "oishii no ga suki desu ka" there isn't a noun/word after the "no" particle because it is implied to be "food" right?
>>139397400
it doesnt have to be food she could be thinking a dick would be tasty
so "whatevers good"
>>139397400
の is a generic noun-creating word, like "the one" or "the thing". Here it's more accurate to think of her as saying "I like the tasty one."
>>139397400
>>139397788
Er, and from the context, you can see she means "out of food, I like the one(s) that are tasty," for example.
Is 'shits-ree' and acceptable pronunciation for 失礼?
>>139397847
im pretty sure shes dreaming about dick, from the context
>>139397894
just dont over enunciate the shit part and wheres your い dude
>>139395766
そぅだね
>>139397894
"shit sorry" is better and closer to the original meaning
さぁ、一緒に日本語では話そう。
お前らは何を読んでるの？
>>139398083
不生産的な話なんていらねー
面白いこと言えよマザファッカー
>>139398048
An american will pronounce that like しぇつぁり though
>>139398083
以前にと言ったように、マジコイ
compellingじゃない
>>139398249
>>139398249
これは日本語を勉強するため立てられたスレだから日本語に相談しるべきだと思う
>>139398500
だから教えろ先生
>>139398083
Oh look, it's that self-centred prick who can't write Japanese and yet tries to blog in it.
>>139398742
no thats not me
I'm having an existential crisis, /djt/.
On one hand I don't have much time to study/practice due to work/college and I need to study other things required to my professional life.
On the other hand everytime I pick a grammar book/anki I have so much fun doing my daily routine that I really want to keep going.
W-would you guys bully me if I manage to learn basic japanese by the time I'm 30 (I'm 27 now)?
>>139398838
who cares what the f you do
>>139398838
Just kill yourself, my friend.
>>139398838
Not your blog, but
>27
I recommend a shot to the head
>>139398838
Define "don't have much time".
>>139398838
Not at all. Even Steve-sama is still learning languages, and he's like 60. Three years from now you'll either be the same as now, or you'll be someone who can enjoy Japanese media. Sounds like you enjoy Japanese and should go for it.
>>139398838
I have this problem as well. Studying Japanese is fucking up my college work, but I can't stop. I can't let go. I have to learn this language.
>>139398449
さきに言ったけど、お前が下手だけだよ
>>139398985
Steve is basically retired, though, and he only has to worry about the occasional log.
>>139399774
I wonder how much he makes off LingQ.
When I want to say that someone is from a specific country do I just add 人 after the name of the country?
ブラジル人
ドイツ人
?
>>139399856
Fuck all, since no one uses it.
>>139399877
youre not saying theyre from a country youre saying theyre a brazillian or a german with those terms as is literally
>>139399877
It's ドイツ野郎
>>139399963
That's why I'm confused.
I don't know if I'm saying "brazilian" as a person or "brazilian" as a thing.
>じつは見ないことになった
>actually, I didn't end up seeing it
Context is about a movie I was going to watch. This sounds fine right? That I didn't end up seeing it (for reasons out of my control sort of nuance)
>>139400186
ｍｊｋ
Did the reading of the kanji change because of the conjugation?
>>139400256
じつはホモボーイそう見える
>>139400519
Yea
>>139400637
whoa what the fuck
>>139400519
yeah
i'm pretty sure kuru and suru are the only irregular verbs where that happens
>>139400519
来て
来ない
来る
大人ジョーク
>>139400721
きて
きない
くる
？
>>139400519
>>139400668
This is in tae kim in past tense and te form sections.
>>139400842
It's in core as well obviously
>>139400786
>きない
こない
>>139400956
できない
>>139400956
I don't get it.
>>139401045
They're special verbs and exceptions. You just have to learn them senpai. Go read tae kim sections on it
>>139401125
I meant I don't get the 大人ジョーク
>>139401219
it all depends on your imagination so 解釈はお前に任せる
>>139398838
>>139398987
Just fucking do it, humans weren't meant to only work you slaves
>>139401805
Tell me how to NEET.
Hey, help me out here, what does そ mean by itself like this?
>>139402290
Depends on context, it probably means "that's how it is" though.
>>139402290
It's short for そう。
吾輩わ猫である
名前わまだにゃい
>>139398838
Only if you are a wizard.
>>139402367
>>139402607
Thanks, friends.
>>139402866
Post the full thing pl0x, I need to jerk off.
>>139403211
good luck
>>139403466
Mutually fullfilling romance is my fetish.
How many new cards a day do YOU do?
カードやらねー
>>139403466
死ねこのクソ提督
>>139404143
さいてー
I'm motivated as fuck after watching Assassination Classroom.
Fuck, I'll stop wasting time and learn Japanese as much as possible.
I'll also print his poster for extra motivation.
Holy fuck, I unknowingly applied for a translation job. You'd think fucking 税理士法人PwC would be a tax job, right?
I just spent the last 3 hours translating 2/3 of a page of English text into Japanese and 1/3 of a page of Japanese text into English for a second stage screening test. (All business level, mind you)
God fucking damn, E=>J is hard as fuck. J=>E is easy as fuck, but I got my ass kicked hard despite writing business Japanese emails on a daily basis. I guess I wasn't as badass as I thought.
>>139404010
Depends on how many new words I encounter.
Are VNs or LNs harder to read?
>>139405239
Monogatari is probably harder to read than Higurashi and Muramasa is probably harder than Date a Live.
>>139405239
Things by bad authors are the hardest to read
>>139405307
>>139405370
Makes sense. Thanks.
おはよおおにいちゃん
おにいちゃんいくつ？
>>139405670
あなたは実物のいもうとですか？
懐かしんでいたわ
>>139405030
That sounds like hell.
Even if I was offered that kind of job I'd turn it down because it would eat away at my soul.
>>139405804
I know, but I really wanna get a job in Nipland so I can move there. I'll take what I can. At worst I'll find a new job.
>>139405804
Well he was willing to take a tax job
>>139405772
きょうははやくかえれたよ
さくらはろくぶざきからしちぶざき
さくらふぶきまであと数日だよ
>>139406105
そのときは写真よろしく
いもうとも移ってるのがいい
>>139405030
I would take technical translation over business translation any day, fuck keigo
also for anyone who thinks "writing is useless," I was asked to handwrite for my interview
my favorite part was when I blanked out and wrote ほう告
>>139406105
美しそうですね
帰れてうれしいよ
>>139406263
Well, I already work in a business environment (Financial audit), but my work is half and half between English and Japanese. And the Japanese is mostly from expats and coworkers who mix and match English for technical terms, so I was kinda under prepared.
I would probably be even slower if I had to translate some mechanical engineering stuff.
Got three months to prepare for the JLPT N2. Any tips?
>>139406452
know japanese to an N2 level
>>139406218
さくらとあたしとどっちがだいじなの
>>139406289
さくらの数日は日本は別世界だよ
さくらが人間をにほんじんにかえるといってもいいよ
>>139406452
Post more cute pictures
>>139406483
>さくらとあたしとどっちがだいじなの
どっちも大事
どっちも欠かせない
桜はいもうとがいるから意味があって、いもうとの輝きは桜で増幅される
>>139406588
おくすりだしておきますね
こんどけんさしましょうね
のうの
>>139406521
For you, anon.
>>139406478
Got that down already, I think. I was thinking more in terms of systematized study for the test. I'm thinking of stuff like this:
- Nihongo Sou Matome N2
- (Shin) Kanzen Master N2
- Finish the DOJG deck (halfway through DOIJG)
- Read newspaper articles/more formal stuff
- Keep playing random VNs or JRPGs
- Start JapanesePod101
- Listen to raw native material
I also have 6 old N2 tests with answers but I'll leave those for the final weeks.
Doable in three months?
>>139405030
なんてこった 意識してなかったので翻訳仕事を申し込んでた 税理士法人PwCなんて税金の仕事だと思うってだろう
この前の三時間で英語から日本語へのテキストのページの2/3また日本語から英語へのテキストのページの1/3を訳していた （全部業務レベルのことを勘違いしないでね）
やれやれ E=>Jなんて難しいよ J＝>Eは楽勝だけど日常的に業務メールを書いたのに完全負けだった そこまでやばいヤツじゃないよな俺
その野球選手は、道具を作ってくれた人達のことを考えたら、バットを折ったり、グローブを投げたりするなんて出来るはずがないと言った。
How should I understand はずがない? Does it mean that the player thinks he could not do those things?
>>139407130
Basically.
"he couldn't possibly do those things considering blah blah"
>>139407130
not the player who thinks, the person whos talking about the players. i guess in context it could be a player thinking about this but hes talking about baseball players in general
otherwise yeah you understand i think
>>139407182
No, he's right.
>その野球選手は
>....
>と言った
>>139406868
幼女の喋り方をする中年男がなにいってんの
How am I supposed to read those kana under "zo"? Aren't they supposed to have no " alternate readings?
>>139407298
さしすせそ
sa si (shi) su se so
たちつてと
ta ti (chi) tu (tsu) te to
ざじずぜぞ
za zi (zhi) zu ze zo
だぢづでど
da di (dji) du (dzu) de do
zhi = viSion
dji = Jail
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yotsugana
>>139407225
but couldnt it be someone who is not a player and just talking about their opinion with what we have here
>>139407394
Ah, a completely unrelated answer, the best way to tell anon that he has a silly question.
>>139407445
So how do you plan to explain the その野球選手は then
>>139407627
how do you plan to explain to me that its impossible for a non baseball player to say その野球選手は
youre the one who told me i was wrong so i need a little help here
>>139407445
>>139407687
どっちのいみでもとれるんじゃないかなあとおもうよ
選手が「できない」と言ったかもしれないし
「選手はできない」という第三者の意見かもしれないよ
> its impossible for a non baseball player to say その野球選手は
How is that relevant at all to who said 道具を作ってくれた人達のことを考えたら、バットを折ったり、グローブを投げたりするなんて出来るはずがない
>>139407763
やっぱお前日本人ではないな
来日？
>>139407298
>>139407394
>>139407624
I found an explanation for a part of the question on my own:
"In informal writing, dakuten is occasionally used on vowels to indicate a shocked or strangled articulation; for example, on あ゛ or う゛"
I couldn't find yet how "wa" with a ゛should be read, though. It'd be nice if anyone could help instead of sending shitty unrelated answers or saying that my question is silly. Most materials don't teach how those kana should be read.
>>139407838
It basically just means that it sounds funny, nothing more specific.
>>139407767
>>139407687
I see how you were interpretting it now. So imouto is right, it could go both ways. Your way is probably more likely but damn are you shit at explaining yourself
>>139407870
Thanks
>>139407897
its like someone whos in the stands saying "as a baseball player" and then 道具を作ってくれた人達のことを考えたら automatically becomes first person despite them being a third party
sorry dude for being a shit explainer
>>139407838
>I couldn't find yet how "wa" with a ゛should be read, though.
https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E3%83%AF%E3%82%9B
Like ヴァ, basically.
>>139407962
Yeah
>(unknown) said "That baseball player, if he was thinking about the people who made the equipment, wouldn't be able to ___
How many new words a day do you guys do?
>>139407838
Pronounce them normally while making this face. Alternatively, try saying them normally with a dick in your mouth. Those are the only times I ever see them used.
>>139407969
I guarantee the author didn't intend that.
>>139408399
>>139404010
>>139354988
He's at it again
>>139406955
Forget nsm just do kanzen
You do not have enough time or motivation to do all of that shit
Whats your jcat?
>>139408096
sort of but when i said first person its because in english i would think of 道具を作ってくれた人達のことを考えたら as "if i think about the people who made my gear" whereas you still have it in third person
>>139408399
every word i see is new my days are adventures into the unknown
When did you realize that bitlasers are the only effective study tool worth buying?
>>139408514
I still use amphetamines too though
>>139408514
yeah bitlasers 一番効果的な道具
知ること全部教えてくれた
>>139408399
I have like 9k cards in anki and im super sick of it so i lowered it to 15
>>139408609
Is 9k words enough to read things easily enough without use of a dictionary?
>>139408700
Fuck no
>>139408700
add 1 more word to your total and yes
>>139408700
No, but so many words can be figured out from context, kanji, etc. that you probably shouldn't ever need to have 9,000 cards in anki in the first place.
Its 4 AM and I've been bumping my day end for the past 6 hours, about to do it finally
出来ない
>>139408838
Yeah brah u can totally infer the meaning of 復号 from the kanji
Does anyone have any tips on finding new LNs in epub/azw? It seems like most of the uploads are scans.
>>139408895
I inferred the reading, but not the meaning. 往復 and 信号.
>>139408931
yeah buy the books and digitize them for yourself
>>139408963
I'm going to give you the benefit of doubt and assume you arent trolling but knowing the reading and not the meaning doesnt really help
>>139408895
I said "many words", not "every word" you dummy. I can't imagine you separately add stuff like 車輪 or 水死 to your deck, or 一口食べる separately from 一口 and 食べる.
>>139407838
"Intensely" is probably the way you need to read it. Like あ is "Oh", but あ゛ is "OOOOOHHHHHHHH!!"
>>139408895
>decoding
>revert + code
>>139409224
This guy gets it. It's also why Core6k sucks, you should not be bogging down your collection and wasting your time with thousands of (often) completely intuitive words.
That said I do sometimes add stuff that I already know the components of when there's rendaku, i.e. 一目惚れ, and I think 9000+ cards in Anki is still totally reasonable.
>>139409349
i guess while everyones comparing decks ＊じー＊
>>139409393
Is it just me or is this guy's じ peculiar
>>139409449
＊「、etc will fuck your shit up if youre not careful watch out
Post anki total card count
>>139409449
It has a ー after it
>>139409478
How did you achieve that many unseen cards? Have you mined on top of Core6k or have you just accumulated a big backlog of mined words from reading without doing the cards themselves yet?
>>139409546
Unseen are from core6k. This is from my whole collection which is core6k + mined. I'm trying to only add words to mined deck as I go each day so I have a solid reason to keep reading every day
>>139409576
Oh okay, that makes sense then. I just thought those would be pretty crazy stats if that were all a single deck.
>>139409224
I obviously don't mine shit whose meaning I can infer from the kanji dude. Could you refrain from making retarded assumptions to win your dumb argument?
Some of my cards are mined so that I can remember the readings, not the meaning. And 9000 cards isn't even that much. Assuming that one has done Core6k, it's just 3000 and there are way more than 3000 cards that you can infer the meanings with the 1500 kanji you know from core
>>139409349
The suspend/delete note function exists for a reason
>>139409784
Win what argument? You're the one arguing here, if you say that 9k+ cards is normal then that's totally valid, I don't really care that much and that stuff obviously varies a lot. But a post like >>139408895 was not a very good way to try and make your point.
>>139409969
>you probably shouldn't ever need to have 9,000 cards in anki in the first place.
everything is a argument and a dick waving contest
all the dicks are 10cm or less
>>139410004
It's the girth that counts
>>139407838
i saw あ゛ subtitles come up in gaki no tsukai when tanaka cleared his throat once
>>139410142
田中アウト
>>139410004
tfw well endowed
>>139410215
I know that feel
>>139409995
Yeah, I don't personally think you need that many, but I could also be wrong as I don't know every Japanese word, hence the "probably". That's not the same thing as starting an argument about it, there are so many factors in play and so many approaches to that stuff that trying to argue about it would be completely pointless.
I'm officially better than the Yotsuba scanlators. Is this what JLPT5 feels like?
>>139410294
i dont wanna discourage you from doing your thing but i think youre somewhere around jlpt8
What should I hit Nyaa with if I wanted Penguin books-style audiobooks, i.e just one or two people reading a novel with minimal music/SFX/other flim-flam? Internet radio is kind of unreliable in its programming.
Any specific recommendations?
For the anons who completed RtK, how did you study?
Pic related, this is how I'm doing things. I am progressing one chapter a day (which should mean RtK 1 is done in some 2 months), I do write the kanji once, number of strokes, then keyword and the mnemonic (later on just the keywords). I do this early in the morning. During the evening, I review using Koohii.
Any other suggested method, anons? I am a real beginner, but am disciplining myself to progress a bit every day. Medium term step is Core and Genki into reading things.
>>139410553
FUCK ME here is the picture. Sorry about the potato quality.
>>139410004
It's not like i had a choice asshole
>>139410553
> I review using Koohii
It's better to use Anki. Otherwise you're going to have to keep visiting this random website on top of using Anki when you start vocabulary.
> I am progressing one chapter a day
I don't think there's much benefit in sticking to the chapters. If I remember correctly, the number in each chapter varies from something like 20 to 60. It's easier to just do the same number of kanji each day.
> I do write the kanji once, number of strokes, then keyword and the mnemonic (later on just the keywords)
You don't need to write anything except the kanji. I wrote my stories down but in retrospect it was a waste of time.
>>139361804
Got any feedback? I made that deck.
>>139410577
the only thing worse than your handwriting and choice of study methods is your inability to rotate images
>>139410711
Anki is not working for me since I really don't want to study just a regular X number of kanji per day. I'd rather divide it either in chapters or in primitives, maybe do 2 chapters a day for the twentysomething ones. AFAIK, Anki does not offer that capability, or maybe I am just inept. I have the deck ready, but I don't know how to manually input which new cards per day I want to study.
About writing the stories, I do remember most anyway, but writing them helps with retention I've found. Maybe I really should drop it.
>>139410816
This is literally my first camera shot on an android device. I have never found a use for it until now. Sorry.
>>139410854
In Anki, you would set new cards per day to 0 and then Custom study -> Increase today's new cards limit by (however many kanji you did today).
>おまえの頭がポップコーン
>Idiot
>up to page 40 of an LN
>haven't quit yet from frustration by not being able to follow
Man, I've come a long way
Do any of you guys have your phone language set to Japanese? If so, how did you go about learning all the words on it? Did you just use a dictionary for everything and put them into a deck or something? A lot of the words would be technical or just katakana words that I wouldn't come across from reading manga and things I assume
Can someone help me with the first bubble of panel 4? I'm having trouble understanding phrases together.
>もっともそれは僕が「アイツ体もすごく濃いんだぜ」と言いふらしているせいだとは口がさけでもいえないアドルであった
もっともそれは僕: However that is I
「アイツ体もすごく濃いんだぜ」: "Because that guy's body is very thick"
言いふらしているせいだ consequence of starting a rumor
とは口がさけでもいえない is won't talk even if mouth cracks
アドルであった with Adol exist
I just can't piece all these phrases together.
>>139410892
Thanks, anon. Thought custom review didn't fount at all for later review purposes.
おなかへった
きんちゃんぬーどるたべたい
おゆわかしておにいちゃん
Hey I just started learning kana and I'm wondering what difficulty level the Fate/Grand Order game is in terms of Japanese? I'm guessing it uses a lot of uncommon chuuni kanji which makes it difficult, am I right?
>>139411369
onakahetta
kinchannu dorutabetai
oyuwakashite oniichan
>>139411387
Take your (you) and leave
>>139411506
I don't get it.
>>139406955
>Start JapanesePod101
Are you paying for it? Or you mean the free content?
ソウダネ
This is possibly the greatest advice I've ever heard. Drop everything you're doing and follow this method of learning Japanese.
>>139412058
There's no way this is not bait, right.
下線部に適当な語句を入れて慣用句を完成させなさい
ひとつひとより＿＿＿＿＿
>All these namefags
キモい
>>139412104
What kind of fucking name is "Delbert"? What a loser.
>>139412058
if i read "romanji" one more fucking time...
>>139412706
Oh, Sher, Man, and your name's real cool! :o)
>>139412632
You wanna mess with me, namefag?
>>139411369
>>139412768
Hiroganas, Katanas and Kanjis are quite useless when you can just use Romanjis to have full comprehension of any material. The only problem is that you must have a few hundred hours worth of listening experience. That way you will know all the basic grammar and vocabulary and won't need Anki for the Kanjis.
I don't understand why you're so mad that someone has chosen the efficient route of Romanjis.
>>139412800
I'd rather build a wall so I never need to see you.
Guys just stop arguing and read COMPELLING CONTENT
>>139412768
えっ？お前はロマンジが本当に嫌いか
どうして、アノンくん
>>139412632
Refresh
>>139413184
Don't.
>>139413184
MY EYES
HOW DO I TURN OFF THE WHITE I ALWAYS USE THE DARK ONE
>>139413255
Thanks, Omar.
>>139410854
Any RTK deck does order the kanji by primitives. I don't know what you're doing, but you're doing it wrong. Being this finicky with your learning methods is going to lead to 出来ない。
Nice layout guys :V)
>>139413554
I deeply regret refreshing the page.
Blocking this helped a little bit
>||s.4cdn.org/css/md2016.*.css
I'll just have to not refresh DJT, though the new thread won't give me an option
>>139413682
>>139414857
I'm just using 4chanx/oneechan addons like usual and everythings fine
>>139408475
5-10 points away from the reaching N2 bracket about 8 months ago. I haven't tried doing it now yet but I imagine I'm already way into the bracket.
>>139411615
Just the stuff on the CoR.
Anyone found any Japanese april fools?
>>139415759
They faked the death of the most famous Japanese star, Jackie Chan.
>>139415942
>Jackie Chan, SBS, MBE, PMW, is a Hong Kong martial artist, actor, film director, producer, stuntman, and singer.
You're a fucking idiot
>>139416025
I meant Jet Li.
>>139416083
>Li Lianjie, better known by his English stage name Jet Li, is a Chinese film actor, film producer, martial artist, and wushu champion who was born in Beijing. He is a naturalized Singaporean citizen.
You're a fucking idiot
>>139416124
I meant Bruce Lee.
>>139412104
ニサン
Doesn't even seem particularly unrealistic, although I have no idea how practical/fast it would be.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5LI1PysAlkU
>>139411387
>>139411387
p-please respond..
Shit son, I didn't realize the sequel to Nanairo was already out! Time to compel my penis raw with all this content. Anyone who's read it already have any impressions to share?
Is Ixrecs guide any good? It seems pretty thorough with examples
http://amaterasu.tindabox.net/guide/
>>139416931
Truly the best advice there is or possibly can be.
>>139417018
The Japanese language is awesome. It's extremely intuitive (once you're fluent).
Can anyone tell me the proper reading for 浪白公園?
>>139417018
Pretty sure the Imabi guy tore that resource a new asshole over inaccuracies and misinformation. Literally no reason to not just use Tae Kim's guide instead.
>>139417178
国語は難しいね
I'm not gonna lie i actually kind of like this material design css
どうしてこのじかん
あのんくんいなくなってしまうの
じさ？
>>139418026
doushite tekono jikan
anonkun inakunatteshimauno
jisa?
>>139418026
doshite wa desu ne deshou!
watashi jikan no hataraku jyanai des yo
[jiza] wa nani o imi wa desuka kono kontekusuto deska?! watashi gomenasai no romanji yousuru desune. kanji no nyuuryoku desune jyanai.
>>139418157
>doushite tekono
>failing on the first hurdle
出来ない「de-ki-na-i」
>>139418026
ＮＥＥＴが午前は起きない
>>139417182
That wasn't imabi and the tearing of a new asshole was full of shit.
>>139418331
i just saw te twice on accident, otherwise it's correct
do NOT bully me! i WILL learn japanese better than anyone else here, just wait.
>>139418445
>romaji
>"I will learn japanese!"
出来ないーーーーーーー！
How do I enjoy VNs?
JP pokemon games have only kana. If i play through one for reading practice would it be a waste of time? im holding off on reading manga until i finish japanese the manga way (which is killing my soul)
>>139418678
You don't. Just read manga instead. And if you don't like that,honestly what are you doing here Kelvin
>>139418742
If your first reading material isn't 我輩は猫である, you may as well give up now.
>>139418838
He should check out the sequels too.
我輩は鰐である and 我輩は蟹である
>>139418838
how the hell do you even type in hirigana? when i have my language settings to type in kana its always katakana
>>139418742
Kanji exist to make reading easier, not harder. Kana-only stuff will not have difficult language in them but reading it will be a pain.
If you want a game that lets you switch around, try the PSP ports of the early FFs.
>>139418742
>JP pokemon games have only kana
3DS games have the option for Kanji
>>139418838
I read こゝろ in English, it was pretty alright but I think I prefer visual novels.
>>139409478
Fixed Japanese.
Probably a dumb question but is there any difference between just core 2k and the core2k/6k two in one? The vocab still appear in the same order for the first 2k right?
>>139419038
ばか アノン でも わたしは たすける
>>139419359
2k/6k is just 2k with an additional 4k. The 10k deck is the one with the fucked up order.
>>139419298
>>139409478
>>139419335
Thanks! We need to submit this to the Japanese government.
>>139419365
on my computer everything beteween JP and the question mark icon is missing
>>139419653
Install google IME.
>>139419653
>can't follow simple instructions in english
できない セオドア
>>139419741
thank you. that worked
>>139419877
eat a dick, nigger
>>139419973
Isn't it one of the first steps in the guide? How could you have missed it?
>>139419588
What's wrong with my total card count?
>>139420049
just checked, and unless i missed it (again) its probably pretty deep in there
i did find this though
>how many words do naitives know?
小学生レベル： ５千～２万語 Elementary School Level: 5-20 thousand
中学生レベル： ２万～４万語 Middle School Level: 20-40 thousand
高校生レベル： ４万～４万５千語 High School Level: 40-45 thousand
大学生レベル： ４万５千～５万語 College Level: 45-50 thousand
>20 thousand just for middle school level
holy shit
>>139420366
I think a lot of that is words you can easily guess by kanji. Like 和食、洋食, etc.
>>139420366
>just checked, and unless i missed it (again) its probably pretty deep in there
Looks like it's been removed from the newest guide for god knows what reason, it was clear as day in the older guide.
I honestly doubt that I know 20k words in English and I'm a 20 year old native.
>>139420570
it probably includes anything with its own dictionary entry
like 返り咲く and 返り咲き
>>139420366
Is no one gonna point out the name? Pretty funny
>>139420693
I was going to but I just got here and I thought the joke might've been done before
on average how many times do you see a kanji in anki before you actually remember it
>>139420366
小学生、１２歳で１万２千とすると
年１０００だよ
いけそうでしょ？
>>139420889
Not a clue, does Anki keep track of that?
I'd guess 2-3 times but I don't really have an idea how accurate that is.
>>139420607
actually, you probably do.
http://www.economist.com/blogs/johnson/2013/05/vocabulary-size
https://www.quora.com/How-many-words-does-an-average-English-speaker-know
>>139420366
>中学生レベル： ２万～４万語 Middle School Level: 20-40 thousand
I call bullshit on this.
what happens when you bury something in anki and how do i get the buried items back?
>>139421465
I just skim read the second link but it looks like only the smart learned fucks have 20k~ worth of words in their heads.
So saying that average Japanese middle schoolers have that knowledge seems crazy.
>>139421795
>I just skim read the second link but it looks like only the smart learned fucks have 20k~ worth of words in their heads.
anon i think you're literally retarded
Learning japanese is for nerds.
>>139421902
You tell 'em Sheryl.
>>139420889
depends on the kanji
I have never forgotten 鬱 璽 or 繭
whereas I still get 緑 and 縁 mixed up
>>139421996
あるいは
線の字もこんらんするんじゃないかなとおもうよ
>17,300
interesting....
http://testyourvocab.com/result?user=6412802
>>139422670
Not so bad for a spic, eh?
Where's the Japanese version of this?
>>139422670
Again, this test is a piece of shit because it's frontloaded with pretentious victorian french loanwords that not even academics use anymore.
>>139422826
I don't think there's any need for that considering we have Anki.
>>139422670
17800
http://testyourvocab.com/result?user=6412826
>>139422882
Yeah, seems like there's a lot of them. Is there a better test?
>>139422670
>19.000
http://testyourvocab.com/result?user=6412829
Not bad for a non native. Also, what`s up with those words? I read a ton and I`ve never encountered any of those.
>>139422948
You absorb some shit from context if you aren't a total beginner, though.
http://testyourvocab.com/result?user=6029446'
Get rekt, scrubs.
>>139423235
shut the fuck up myrtle
>>139422962
http://my.vocabularysize.com/
This seems to be a better one
I found an apparent joke name in a manga, but I can't seem to figure out how to translate it.
> 素っ頓狂
> http://www.weblio.jp/content/%E7%B4%A0%E3%81%A3%E9%A0%93%E7%8B%82
Like, individually, the kanji mean "plain bowing mad", but I can't think of a good way to get a good meaning of all three together in a single concept. I appreciate any help on this.
http://testyourvocab.com/result?user=6412867
18yo here
>>139423344
You gotta localise it to Batty Betty
>>139423384
you have to go back
>>139423402
What do you mean?
>>139423304
>there are 140 question in this test
It`s not reps time yet ;-;
>>139423429
just trying to be funny sorry
>>139423515
oic
Well, you don't happen to know how to translate it anyways, would you?
>>139423558
Dotty Diana
>>139423610
That's a no then, huh
Well, thanks anyways
>>139423425
back to where senpai
お腹がすいた。食べたい。
>>139423789
You can eat my ちんちん, dude.
>>139423304
this one's just as bad
あああ～ちんぽしゃぶりてえええよおおおおお
>>139424042
お前、頭を傷めた？
>>139423235
http://testyourvocab.com/result?user=6412967
pls
>>139424685
http://testyourvocab.com/result?user=6412995
Cool, I can cheat too.
>>139424042
Homo
>>139424685
http://testyourvocab.com/result?user=6413003
>>139424792
>cheat
Nice insecurity. His vocab is the average for a 24-year-old.
http://testyourvocab.com/blog/2013-05-08-Native-speakers-in-greater-detail
>that voice crack
>>139425012
Are you trying to say that I'm some dumb illiterate hick?
What, I'm confused. What the fuck kind of description is that? Is it fu or hu now..
