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>Anime covers parts of first volume, but plot is nothing like the LN since it was just a bunch of battles.
>Volume 1 apparently all a dream by Haruhiko.
>Volume 2 takes place in the future where adult Haruhiko fights a war against Phantoms. He fails to kill this one phantom named Rupa who kills off 2/3 of the human population INCLUDING THE MAIN GIRLS!
>Volume 2 Summary: The remainder of humanity lives in an underground city. Haruhiko blames himself for the apocalypse with Mai, Reina, and others as his mental supports. As his friends fall one by one, Haruhiko swears that even if he gives his soul to the devil, he will eradicate the Phantoms. As he is swallowed by the darkness of revenge, Haruhiko rises to use a forbidden ability in hopes to finally end the struggle.
>Volume 3 shows the deceased girls on the cover as well as new characters. Haruhiko might of used a forbidden ability to travel back in time to prevent the war from happening?
Overall, holy shit this anime could of been a good anime if the whole plot was adapted instead of catering to the fan service damn
Why do people praise Kyoani for this when they did one of the worst adaptions known to man?
They fucked up the entire plot
>>139358942
Kyoani is the most overrated studio, ever.
They should flash forward and complete FULL METAL PANIC!
>>139359062
Not gonna happen
>>139358942
>Kyoani is shit
>the Pope is catholic.
>>139358942
this show has a plot ?
>>139359101
Well someone is. FMP 4 was announced last year.
>>139358942
I fail to see an issue here
>>139359279
Kyoani is focusing in their own IPs, it's extremelly unlikely that they'll adapt FMP
>>139358942
Kyoani owns the publishing company that the novels came from.
They OWN the story, they can do whatever they fuck they want.
>>139359354
>They OWN the story, they can do whatever they fuck they want.
Just because they can do what they wan't doesn't mean they aren't doing shit
KyoAni being void of any artistic integrity is hardly anything new.
>>139359386
that's deal anon "they make shit" for successful marketing.
>>139358942
Just because the actual phantom world thread is rightfully slamming the shitty source material doesn't mean you'll get anything different from making your own thread, anon
>>139358942
Assuming what you said is true, KyoAni fuck themselves, HARD.
I keep pressing right button on keyboard except on last 2 episodes.
Moreover, last episode's battle is goddamn gorgeous.
>>139358942
http://pastebin.com/Z2W3UTw2
OP's summary is not very accurate.
>>139359594
Shocking.
Nobody beats Kyoani's epic animation quality though.
>>139358942
Not like it matters anyway, vol 2 sounds like shit.
>>139359594
What a steaming hot pile of fecal matter that LN is.
They arent called Kyoanus for nothing
>>139359594
sounds better than the anime
>>139359637
You mean it sounds like the shit.
>>139359878
You have an incredible shitty taste.
>kyonaus ruining even their own crap tier literature
>it flops
Pottery. Not even their comfort zone is safe now.
>>139359917
kill yourself
the LN is better than the anime
>>139358942
who's the girl on the cover?
>>139359166
holy fucking shit dude 10/10 joke man wow grats on that one
>>139359953
That's wrong simply for the fact that the anime is shorter. They're both garbage but at least the anime is inoffensive and short.
>>139359988
The LN is short unless you are shit at reading
>>139359835
I want nothing more than to smother Kurumi with big fluffy bears
>>139359953
>the LN is better than the anime
>literally edgy asspulls and grimderp angst MC
>parallel universe
>GAWD wanting to fuck around because REASONS
>characters are driven by nonsesical reasons
>better
You are terrible wrong m8.
>>139360015
How many pages are the LN's? Can you read 3 LN's in 4 hours?
>>139359594
What the actual fuck, thats edgy as hell.
>anime is completely different from ln
>no one wants to buy both anime and ln, they're not even charted
Kyoani, gods of marketing.
>>139359953
It never ceases to amaze me how the normalshits think edge = good/mature
>>139360133
what
>>139360133
My problem with it, is not the edge. Is the fucking grimderpness,teenage tier angst, fucking asspulls, nonsensical shit.
If I want the above I read 40k.
Nice fanfic, faggot.
>>139360119
Why would it even chart? They're a small publishing house not ASCII
>>139360066
Except the grim edge MC dies at the end because the Real MC woke up and fused with him. Also Origin Haruhiko steals Another Haruhiko's harem as well.
This is how I know you didn't read the real summary.
>>139360337
>Except the grim edge MC dies at the end because the Real MC woke up and fused with him.
This is what I said was a fucking asspull. But nice try at defending this shit mate.
>>139360366
what asspull?
>>139360366
There is no such things as asspulls when you are a fucking reality warper mate.
>>139360337
>Except the grim edge MC dies at the end because the Real MC woke up and fused with him. Also Origin Haruhiko steals Another Haruhiko's harem as well.
what the fuck am i reading?
>>139360366
It winned Kyoani prize, after all.
>>139360408
http://pastebin.com/Z2W3UTw2
Remember when KyoAni was praised for their great adaptations?
I know they own the properties and can make their own call on changing the story etc but I find it sad that they're completely abandoning the good reputation they set for themselves in the 00's and early 10's. In the case of Phantom World aside from animation the story of the adaptation looks like a plain insult to the original.
>>139360066
God fucking around seems to be a thing in Japan
Gekiranger had a God who made a bunch of people fight a war because he was bored.
>>139360486
Japanese Gods usually do shit in japan, unlike western ones
>there are people on /a/ right now who think KyoAni is the best studio
>>139360477
Never? Because everyone says all their "adaptations" are improvements. That's not even adaptations, that's "Kyoani anime".
>>139360477
the original is some edgy chuuni shit so it should be insulted
>>139360552
What do you mean anon? It's so ridiculous it loops around to being a comedy.
>>139360420
It didn't win it was an honorable mention or some shit, only Violet Evergarden has ever won that thing.
>>139360538
>everyone says all their "adaptations" are improvements
You aren't everyone. ChuuKoi Ren was heavily panned.
>>139359594
Sounds like Ishihara did the right thing. He literally said fuck you and instead of making another KnK he just made a fun, episodic show. It worked out really, PW is ten times as good as KnK and Chuu combined.
>>139360538
>Because everyone says all their "adaptations" are improvements.
Endless 8.
One of the shortest chapters in the entire series.
>>139360674
I wouldn't call it better than KnK or Chuu, they're all different shows and I like them all for different reasons.
>>139358942
So this is the part where we pretend that the LN is good just to shit on Kyoani? Common anon I cant take your opinion seriously. Not after you admit you like this generic fanfic tier LN.
I mean of all the things that Kyoani do wrong you decide to complain about them for not making a faithful adaptation of a mediocre source material.
What you should be complaint is the fact they insist in adapting shitty source material like Phantom World just to avoid paying royalties.
>>139360674
I dunno, I thought PW is even worse than KnK.
>>139360742
Of course Kyoani knows better. Can't wait to see how they will improve this shitty fanfic tier Koe no Katachi manga no one cares about.
>>139359594
Sounds edgy. I like it.
>>139359594
So technically, they don't ruin the LN's plot yet. I mean they can continue the anime with vol 2&3's plot if they want.
>>139360814
PW is a lot better than KnK, there wasn't any unnecessary episodes, the OC characters improved the story and introduced the themes, it doesn't need an OVA or movie to introduce things that should've been there in the first place and most importantly the MC is a lot better too
>>139360674
>instead of making another KnK
Funny because Kyoukai no Kanata had a few detrimental changes made to the story as well.
>>139360814
Maybe if KnK wouldn't have taken itself so serious. Ishidate is a good director but KnK was just all around shit.
>>139360814
Really? I thought it was better. Didn't have some glasses character I grew to hate.
>>139358942
>Volume 3 shows the deceased girls on the cover as well as new characters. Haruhiko might of used a forbidden ability to travel back in time to prevent the war from happening?
Sounds like deus ex machina shit
>>139360917
Who cares though? I was comparing the two shows, not light novels.
>>139360955
Someday everyone will stop hating on poor Mirai;_;
>>139360823
Koe no Katachi? I don't know if kyoani is going to make a good show out of it or they going to fuck it up again. But only normalfags and people that almost never read manga think is masterpiece. The story deteriorates halfway, the melodrama is ridiculous and Shouko is a living punching bag. Is a shame because the premise was interesting but the execution was terrible
>>139360913
>the OC characters improved the story
Ruru is one of the shittiest characters in kyoani history
>>139358942
>That story
God why are LNs plots so retarded? Why cant studios cant animate actual novels? Oh right. Money
>>139361301
butthurt shipperfag
>>139361305
OP is lying idiot
That sounds terrible and I can see why they chose not to adapt it
>>139361301
I literally cannot agree with this subjective opinion
>She wants to destroy the entire world, summon a new one using Haruhiko's ability and in the new world, become Haruhiko's real mother and give birth to him.
Pardon me for saying this but
top fucking kek.
>>139361305
There are quite a lot of anime based on actual novels though
>>139359594
Man, I kinda love story like this where the main protagonist literally suffering and (almost) fighting alone to save the world. That's why I Steins;Gate and MuvLuv is still my favorite VN.
For this season I'm hyped for Re:Zero because of this reason.
>>139361323
I don't give half a fuck about shipping, but Ruru's main shtick was to be annoying as fuck for most of the series
>>139360913
>there wasn't any unnecessary episodes
Yet PW had plenty of them.
>>139361407
13, to be exact
>>139359594
Jesus Christ, what did I just read? Even if the anime was shit, the LN is just as shitty or worse.
>>139361305
But KyotoAni did animate 2 novels in the last 5 years.
>>139359594
Truely atrocious.
>>139361305
Anime is generally aimed at a young adult audience and light novels are just Japanese young adult fiction
Also it's harder to sell a novel that comes out every few years than a regularly releasing LN series
>it will be Kyoani's next BIG thing, they said
>it's a straight sci-fi novel with actual plot, they said
>it's definitely not highschool chuuni battle harem with superpower kids, they said
>koito lives with MC and claims herself as his girlfriend, they said
>>139361668
Literally nobody said any of that
>>139361668
No one said anything except that last line though dumb Dagashiposter.
>>139360066
>a corpse as a reaction face
>wanting an adaption of le dark twist anime #718849932
>>139361668
who are you quoting
>6.95
>>139361741
Not him but I definitely remember people saying the last line.
>>139361765
This I don't know who is he quoting.
>>139358942
>Volume 3 shows the deceased girls on the cover as well as new characters. Haruhiko might of used a forbidden ability to travel back in time to prevent the war from happening?
Oh no, not this bullshit. Let them remain died
>>139359594
Holy fuck this is retarded. Why woukd this even get published on anything more than Wattapad? I mean cheesy 70s sci-fi were better than this.
>>139358942
>catering to the fan service
Gays are not welcome.
fuck off back to kibikeks
Kadokawa LNs are much beter than Kyoani LNs.
Who the hell wants to be published by small company and then get an anime adaptation of your work, totally butchered and ruined?
Of course be published by Kyoani may be easier because Kadokawa has high quality standards.
>>139362216
It's your average edgefest anime plot. Stop pretending we don't get these type of LNs and anime every season.
>>139362253
>Kadokawa has high quality standards
>>139362253
No LN publishing company has any standard. The only enjoyable LN was FMP and that was before it went full on edge.
>>139362407
Never read or watched anything like this. Not even a huge anime watcher. These days I only watch the occasional KyotoAni anime.
>>139362253
Aspiring authors don't usually get to pick and choose who they want to publish their works
KyoAni gives the author published works and the attention of a lot of fans, while the author gives KyoAni a story they don't have to pay much for. It works well enough.
>>139362501
Fuck off
>>139362472
FMP went full edge?
>>139362472
>The only enjoyable LN was FMP
>>139362528
No you fuck off. This shit is literal garbage bin tier. This mediocrity shouldn't even be tolerated.
>>139362569
Seriously fuck off, watch more anime and lurk for a year before posting, fucking crossboarder.
>>139362524
Where are the lot of Phantom World LN fans? Who even can name the author without google?
>>139362617
This may come as a surprise to you, but random foreigners on 4chan aren't the target audience
>>139362617
>who can name a polynesian canoe art carver without googling?
>>139362653
He doesn't understand that concept. He's a filthy /v/ermin who probably watches westaboo shit that airs on toonami.
>>139362617
99% of /a/ users can't even read the novels
Well they had 13 episodes I don't know what you expected OP.
If they try and do Volume 2 it will just leave a cliff hanger shit ending.
I don't know what else they could have done, A dream would have been infuriating too. The actual plot does sound interesting but if they crammed all this shit into 13 episode it would be a huge fucking mess.
>>139362668
Tanigawa Nagaru, Monji Gotoh, Kawakami Minoru and Kamachi still exist.
Face the truth, no one actually cares about the Phantom LN.
>>139362599
>You should watch more garbage so that you can lower your standards and accept mediocrity.
No you nigger. I enjoy SoLs and the occasional KyotoAni enjoyable show and OW was enjoyable and campy but the LN summary posted belongs on shit like Wattapad and fanfiction.net not being published.
>>139362764
>The actual plot does sound interesting
Living up to your shit name I see
>>139362472
>only enjoyable LN was FMP
![[HorribleSubs] Musaigen no Phantom World - 13 [720p].mkv_snapshot_08.00_[2016.03.31_02.45.29].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/3l9LYlv.jpg "[HorribleSubs] Musaigen no Phantom World - 13 [720p].mkv snapshot 08.00 [2016.03.31 02.45.29]")
Original LN sounds stupid.
They could have just made the whole show like the last 2 episodes. More serious and with overarching plots, but not full on grimdark.
>>139362764
3 Volumes is too little content for other studios to adapt in a single cour. I mean DanMachi had 2 volumes in a single episode.
>>139362939
Haruhi was fun but the anime was even more enjoyable. Such a shame it ended.
>>139363086
It depends on the series, there is no set rule on how much is a good idea to cram in to a certain number of episodes.
>Haruhi first volume was adapted to 6 episodes
>now each Kyoani show is 1 volume adapted to 12-13 eps
Hmmm, why their recent shows are full of animeonly fillers and filler characters? I literally have no idea.
>>139363277
Haruhi at the time had much more than 2 volumes published at the time they started working on it.
>>139363277
Different business strategy? A lot has changed since 2006, both for Kyoaus and for the industry as a whole
Stop hatin Kyoani ;_;
>>139363277
>Hmmm, why their recent shows are full of animeonly fillers and filler characters? I literally have no idea.
>recent
The hell, fool? Have you never watched Lucky Star?
>>139363468
TTGL > Lucky Star
>>139359594
>Alayashiki
>Alayjha-Vijana
oh shit
>>139362844
Volume 2 sounds pretty interesting though.
>as a reward, he is given the ability to warp between Origin and Another whenever he feels like it.
>>139363480
>this was annoying newfag spam nearly a decade ago
>hundreds if not thousands of you faggots have died in that timeframe
>>139363541
>>hundreds if not thousands of you faggots have died in that timeframe
Thank god.
>>139363519
>Laughing about the fact that he gets to buttfuck two Reinas
>>139363468
I think the problem isn't that not enough people have watched Lucky Star as much as it's that not enough people are familiar with the source material to know that the anime was largely original.
As they should be of course, since the source material sucks hairy donkey balls.
>>139363541
I'm glad for that, nothing was really lost
>>139363541
>remember when /a/ was good?
>>139363674
/a/ was much better back when crossboarders didn't pretend to hate KyoAni
>>139363674
That's a pretty shit idea for a thread to be honest
>>139363674
Holy shit, Lucky Star was a pure cancer. Glad it's not 2007 and no one pretends to like it now.
>>139363823
It made for a fun get.
So are Kyoani at the point where they'll do Free S3 or K-On!!! to stay afloat?
>>139362501
>>139362827
>He only watches kyoani shows
This is why i hate you faggots.
>>139363965
KyoAni are pretty rich anon
>>139363979
Are there even worthwhile anime to watch these days? I watch KyoAni for Ishihara and Yamada. And the occasional Hosoda anime.
>>139363541
Still not nearly enough
>>139364039
Kiznaiver next season
>>139364064
(you)
>>139364039
>Asking for recs
>>139364064
You mean Lulco right? Imaishi is the only worthwhile talennt at Trigger.
>>139364101
>Implying I want to watch the shitty shows that /a/ likes.
I've had enough of /a/'s favorites being shit.
>>139359594
I'm glad Kyoani dropped this abortion of a plot.
>>139364064
Literally no chance of that being worthwhile
>>139364197
I think we all agree with this.
>>139364237
No.
>>139364197
This.
>>139359878
>>>/Mirai Nikki/
>>139362524
KyoAni LNs have never been bestsellers.
No one cares about Chuuni anymore for example.
>>139368258
True, but best sellers are often pretty terrible.
Mahouka. Index. SAO.
>>139368258
People stopped caring about chuu2 when the first season ended.
>>139360069
If you are not an americlap, yes.
>>139359594
I..freaking what,mate? This sounds so try hard.
>>139368258
Chuuni LN was just Tanaka Romeo's AURA ripoff
>>139358942
>muh edgy plot
>good
Stop listening to linken park son.
At least Phantom LN has plot.
Phantom anime has nothing.
Phantom anime was fun, generic chuuni battle harem is never fun.
I'm glad they learned from the KnK mistake.
>>139369507
It has comfy, Drama girl, Ruru and Kurumi. You can shove that edgy light novel plot right up your arse.
>>139363965
>K-on S3.
All the main cast graduated. They could make the sequel series with the new group, but the sequel series was awful.
>>139369368
When did the whole "tryhard" thing become popculture? Replace "UMAD". Every time it is obvious you are trying to perform well or give a shit about anything, especially in video games, people start spewing tryhard.
The last place, I would expect that crap is /a/.
Because yeah, there are tryharding anime fans.
>>139358942
What the hell is Akari doing in this novel?
>>139369507
Phantom anime has a better plot than the LN generic edgefest.
>>139359594
What is this retarded shit I'm reading? This is the source? Jesus fuck me.
>>139369700
(You)
>>139369700
This.
I want to titfuck Engima
>>139369913
Wow,rude much?
>>139361407
It didn't. All of the episodes served to develop the story, themes and characters.
>>139359497
Isn't Musaigen shaping up to their worst performing show since Munto?
>>139369950
Which story?
>>139369975
Munto didn't even reach 500. Cruel.
>>139369950
So is KnK.
But that still fail to make both shows great, isn't it?
>>139359594
Chunni shit
>>139370095
>ESL
>>139358942
What the fuck, this actually sounds amazing. Why didn't they just do this?
>>139359594
>When Haruhiko makes it back to where everyone else is, he finds that nearly everyone is passed out and the girls are about to be killed. Koito uses her song so much that she loses her voice and Reina is bleeding blood from her eyes from sucking too much.
Okay sorry, never mind, this sounds like garbage
>>139358942
Phantom World's light novels sounds awesome. KyoAni dropped the ball hard when they decided to stray so far from the source material. It's like we got the Disney rewrite version or some shit.
>>139371190
>bleeding blood from her eyes from sucking too much
>>139370945
Ruining series is their specification.
>half the people preferring the edgy shit
When did /a/ get so full of underage.
>>139371229
You've got to be joking.
>>139371851
They really want to become a new Ghibli too hard. No sexualuzation, no edgy scenes, nodeaf girls bullying
>>139371851
How he is wrong?
>>139371926
>kyoani's pervert director wants to be like ghibli
>>139371992
is he*
>>139371926
>No sexualuzation
>
>>139371926
>No sexualuzation
>>139358942
>Muh edgy serious LNshit!
Kill yourself you fucking teenager. Go watch one of the other million garbage LN adaptations that air every season if you want that crap.
>>139372227
>Haruhiko's new power is called Diabolic ART and he is essentially selling bits of his body and soul to Marchosias and later Lucifer everytime he wants to use his transformation power.
This is genius writing though.
KyoAni is fine but Phantom World was just garbage
Excited for new Hibike andKnK
>>139360641
And that LN didn't even chart, Kyoani is swimming on flops right now and I love it
>>139362764
Or they could just condense all that fedora tipping/edginess into a few episodes as told from a 'survivor' of the AU, maybe from an OC like a redeemed Enigma. That way, it technically followed canon while doing its own usual SoL thing.
>>139359594
>Serious plot
>Edgy
>Badass Haru
>Double harem from parallel universes
>Dat Koito deito
>White-haired childhood friend who's a sexy yandere and OP'd phantom
I already like it more than the anime.
>>139372227
There's nothing wrong with that kind of serious plot. Stop trying to fit in, kid.
>>139372573
Holy shit, this is horrendous.
>>139372227
FYI, their best and most beloved by /a/ works are faithful LN adaptations.
Their half-anime-original LN adaptations are garbage.
Stop being a retard.
>>139358942
>source material is good, I swear anons!
No, fuck off. It's generic shit.
>>139372672
None of which were edgy garbage on par with Raildexshit. Stop being a fucking retard and fuck off back to wherever you came from.
>>139372672
Hyouka and Euph aren't LNs
>>139372323
I think I wrote better fanfiction during my chuuni days than this. This is just edgy for the sake of edgy here.
>>139372672
>k-on
>lucky star
>LN
Not to mention K-On only became the peak of anime when they went original.
>>139372607
>kid
Man, I almost typed an actual response. Thanks for saving me the trouble.
>>139372697
Why so butthurt? The LN sounds less generic and more interesting than the anime.
>>139372698
>muh edgy
Come up with something better.
>>139372672
Only Haruhi is, and only because of the movie.
>>139372795
>Epic darkness and suffering is good writing!
Yup, definitely a Raildextier LNfag. Are you also a 14 year old Brazilian who reads broken LN translations and spoilers on animesuki?
>>139372607
There's nothing wrong with serious plot but this sounds like it was literally written by a 13 year old. Hell I bet you could find something really similar in DeviantArt or FanFiction.
>>139372795
>LN sounds less generic
Come up with something better
>>139372795
Kill yourself.
>>139372805
>only because of the movie.
Are you serious? The TV show and E8 had more hyped and larger following than than the movie.
>>139359594
I don't know if this is true but it certainly sounds way better than what we had here. Although technically if KyoAni made a second season, it wouldn't change anything from the plot, just names and some characters.
Thanks anon, Volume 2 sounded super edgy but it's not as bad as some made it sound.
>>139372879
That's because the ADHD kids couldn't sit still for 3 hours.
>>139372795
That's not interesting. That not interesting at all. That shit is finding long lost fanfiction posted on ff.net i had written during my edgy teenager phase but I can no longer remember my password so I can't even delete it tier type of writing. It embodies the worst aspects of chuunism.
>>139372839
>>139372841
>>139372850
>It's edgy and serious so I hate it
I'm sure you guys say the say thing to Tsukihime and Fate series, right?
>>139372932
I don't think ADHD kid could stand wathcing the original airing order.
>>139372991
Fate is complete garbage, yes. The fact that you think Fateshit is good destroys any credibility you might have had.
>>139373024
You're kidding right, the fact that the plot flies around so much in the first season would be appealing to them.
>>139372698
>Raildexshit
>edgy garbage
I smell troll.
The edgy fanfiction dot com nonsense can still be worked into a movie. It only adapted the first novel and LNfag said they followed the basic plot/structure anyway.
>>139373129
>And then Touma died a gorrillian times and suffered for infinity all at once but he came back to life inside the endless hell because he's such a fucking badass and the he punched god in the face and he's so fucking cool!
Yeah, it's edgy garbage.
Some KyoAnifags sure are hypocrites for enjoying edgy Kyoukai no Kanata, but blast Phantom World's LN being edgy.
>>139373209
>making a movie 1000x edgier than Miraihen
No please stop.
>>139372991
>Thinks anyone outside of the generals likes fateshit
Fuck off back to your hugbox.
>>139373256
None of that had anything to do with edgy, shitposter-kun. Touma got tortured and had to struggle to hold himself together. His struggle was a testament to human will, but he isn't invincible and nearly fell into complete despair if it wasn't for a certain girl who gave him the push he needed to get back on track. Touma's battle was a battle of ideals, and he won. In terms of power, Othinus had every advantage and could use it and she did, but she fell to the affects of the fairy spell that weakened her. Regardless, the match wasn't settled by power, but ideals. Nice job showing you are nothing but a troll.
>>139373037
>>139373355
>Singles out Fate
>Doesn't know about Tsukihime
Newfags.
>>139358942
>watching kyoani
I've legitimately sworn if off after they managed to bungle hibikek. They don't deserve the benefit of the doubt or any such thing.
I don't usually play company wars either. It takes a lot to get favoured it takes even more to get black listed. What a joke Kyoani was become.
>>139361707
Around the first episodes there were people claiming it wasn't harem though.
>>139373545
>13 year old raildexfags actually this delusional
Hot damn
>>139373606
Tsukihime is literally Twilight-tier garbage.
>>139373648
How did Hibike of all things offend your tastes so badly that it got on your exclusive "blacklist?"
>>139373863
Because he's retarded.
>>139358942
>>139359594
KyoAny blew it. I'm glad the flopped. Maybe next time they will think twice before churning out another poor, water-down kiddy adaption.
>>139372986
glad about*
I can't tell if there are trolls trolling trolls in here or there are actually PWfags who thinks the anime is good and better than the novel
>>139373789
Here's your reply.
>>139373863
It was the straw that broke the camel's back. They could have done it so many ways. I went in expecting Brass Band K-on, and got corrected. I started enjoying the 'whiplash' vibe and then it just devolved into yuri bait and relationshit. I mean even the trumpet showdown was about muh senpai and muh mop haired teacher.
It didn't deliver on comfy and cute, it didn't deliver on drama and tension, it didn't deliver on fan service, it was passable on music.
Waste of time.
Worse still it was completely over hyped and kyoanifags sung its praises from the highest mountains along with the yurifags after all the pointless bait.
Not the worse thing they've done, certainly not horrible. However, it was bad enough to confirm the trend Kyoani seems so desperate to set for themselves.
>>139374086
Here's your reply.
>>139374086
Both.
>>139359594
What happened to mai?
>>139374111
>i dont like it because it doesnt pander to me
>>139374086
Trolls. Bored trolls who are waiting to move onto the next season's ride.
Absolutely sure if Kyoani would go full edgy plot /a/ would be full of "WHAT A TWEEST", "A+TIER SUFFERING, I LIKE IT", "TYBKA" and "FINALLY KYOANI BECOME A STUDIO FOR THINKING AND MATURE PEOPLE LIKE ME" stuff.
Your double standards are rudiculous, sempais.
>>139374196
>pandering
The only people it pandered to was yurifags. If that's you then congrats if not what is there in it for you. I mean really. Pandering aside, as I've said, it doesn't really do much at all and what it does manage to do is tonally inconsistent.
It doesn't really deserve much if any praise and yet it's heralded as the second coming.
I will say one thing good about it. The character designs were perfect. That alone was divine, the art was otherwise standard fair modern kyo complete with 'not traced' realistic outdoor scenery and backgrounds that the characters floated across with no real bearing.
>>139374111
So you don't like it because you dislike stories about relationships. I mean that's fine but that doesn't say anything about the show. You say it doesn't deliver but it contains a fantastic character story with compelling, interesting interactions and characters. Not liking something is fine but you don't get to be mad because the show isn't a genre you like.
>>139374402
Their "fantastic" relationships looks like a cheap melodrama, to be honest. Sure you like it because yuri implications.
>>139374402
It's not that either. I've watched shows entirely about relationships
Perhaps I shouldn't have used short hand but relationshit is basically where all the other positive aspects of the show are swallowed up or start to revolve around relationships. Especially if the show didn't start with or foreshadow that type of tone
UFO started with far more than relationships but devolved into it. As such I found the focus to be pretty shallow as they essentially used it to bridge the rest of the luke warm plot together. It was utilized in its own regard really
Hibike was the sort of show where you can like most of the components at a glance but when you watch it they're poorly done or too few and far between
I know it's a waste of breath to discuss it in a thread with mostly kyoanifags but I genuinely thought it failed to live up to its potential. And not for any pandering reasons. I've watched romance shows, hell I've watched yuri. It was a Jack of all King of none.
>>139374544
I think you're the only one preoccupied by yuri here.
>>139374715
To be fair, the yurifags were insufferable.
>>139373606
>he didn't mention tsukihime so he must not know about it
Nice mental gymnastics. I didn't mention tsukihime because I like it.Hisui route is the best route.
>>139374819
They really were. As much as that other anon might try to play it off as relationship it was yuri which means it comes with it's own set of bullshit if the yurifags are successfully baited.
>Reina is bleeding blood from her eyes from sucking too much
What a slut.
>>139374819
All yurifags are insufferable.
>>139374953
I like yuri in most shows when it's there. Yurifags are a discussion breed of man hating tumblrinas that need to shove their fetish into literally everything.
>>139374870
>Liking Tsukihime, a series that's near top of the edgy and chuuni scale
Hypocrite.
>>139374697
>Especially if the show didn't start with or foreshadow that type of tone
That's not really true. The first scene of the show is a flashback to relationship drama and the main character's first major action in the show is to avoid said relationship drama. It was definitely there the whole time.
>used it to bridge the rest of the luke warm plot together.
How is the plot lukewarm? It's a pretty standard character story. Doesn't really know how she wants to approach music and the show is how she ultimately decided to deal with music as a part of her life. I don't really see how that qualifies as "lukewarm."
>>139375085
Discussing the plot divorced of execution would mean nothing is luke warm. The way it panned out was quite lack luster.
Further like you said
>main character's first action is to avoid said drama
>not setting a tone
>episodes thereafter mostly music focused until mid season
I might be able to cede there was foreshadowing but I'd like you to level with me on the fact there was a tonal shift in the season later on.
>>139358942
What was the point of this series anyways?
>>139375205
There was most certainly a tonal shift but I don't think it was a bad or unexpected one in any way.
>>139371819
Shounenfags. They've been proliferating over the years.
>>139359594
Dat plot and development. I have a thing for genre shifts from cute SoL/comdedy to shit hitting the fan serious plot. Also, adult Haru is something I want to witness.
Kyoani will redeem themselves with Yuriphonium.
>>139375081
>hypocrite
I yam what I yam
>>139359594
>Someone who consider himself a writer respected wrote this.
>>139375335
It's not shounenfags, it's the ESL fanbase of LNs comprised of teenagers.
>>139359594
Have they licensed this yet?
>>139373262
Only mature people can appreciate Kyoukai no Kanata.
>>139375552
No, no. Don't try to pin this only on LN-readers. It's the usual edgy teenagers that thinks pain and suffering is cool. Those guys exists no matter whose fanbase they belong to.
>>139371819
>>139375335
Lurk more or troll less. /a/ have always enjoyed moe along side various serious dark/edgy series. NGE, DtB, Samidare, Toyko Ghoul, Antimagic. Even Akame, especially before the anime aired.
>>139375505
>Kyoani chooses this work as a winner and animetes this
>>139375757
>NGE, DtB
Please refrain from comparing these two with all the other garbage. Thanks.
>>139375757
Two of those shouldn't even be placed the same level there
>>139375831
It wasn't a winner. Only VEG was.
>>139375757
This. Add Umineko, Type-Moon in general, Owari no Seraph, Helck, and BLAME.BERSERK too.
>>139375713
I'm telling you where these types of posters come from. Check any seasonally airing LNshit adaptation thread.
>>139358942
Would've been nice to see, instead they chose to add anime original shitty token loli and ruru, and shove the bland shitty characters backstorys down our throats in 30 seconds flashbacks.
This entire anime felt like watching shounen filler. And i can't even begin to understand why they chose to go the episodic route with this anime when the source material does have an actual story, even if it's LN tier shit
>>139375964
>/v/ posters
>>139375757
It's IRC trying to troll. Give it a week or two before they move on.
>>139375964
The LN they adapted was episodic+plot just like this, the fanfiction tier one didn't exist at the time.
Why are there still two Haruhikos in Vol 3 if they already fused?
>>139375941
And I'm telling you, edgy teenagers being edgy isn''t something that comes from reading LN. It comes from everyone. There's no finger pointing required because I'm pretty sure everyone had gone through that phase in their life at one point.
>>139376096
Not to mention since it's a literal AU bad end, they don't need any sort of following canon for them to adapt it if they so choose.
>>139359637
>pszzh nothin personell,...koito
>They didn't pull an "IT WAS ALL A DREAM" end
>This is supposed to be a bad thing
>>139376493
It's not even that. As shown by the actual plot spoiler, all that shit is completely independent of everything that happens in the first volume.
>>139376313
The edgy teens in this thread are the ones that make up the LN fanbase on /a/. I'm not denying the existence of other edgy kids.
>>139376493
>implying it doesn't work with some shows
Based Flag harem begs to differ faggot
>>139359594
This is pretty fucking dumb.
I'm not a fan of the anime, but at least what we got was better than this drivel.
I can't believe there are actually people complaining that KyoAni didn't adapt a novel that wasn't written when the anime was announced.
>>139376630
I'm just saying there are edgy teens everywhere. There is no need to single out just LN.
>>139376782
I'm not arguing with that. I'm telling you where they gather on /a/.
>>139376778
>underestimating kyoani haters
They are so desperate that they will pretend they want edgy fedora writing.
>>139376848
Anon, pls. We had a thread on the edgiest shit, and most of the stuff came from manga. No need to say one medium attracts edgy teens when they're already part of every medium.
I find it funny how before we had actual plot spoilers about the LN, everyone was saying Kyoani had ruined the adaptation, but once we've gotten them, everyone is saying they did a hell of a better job than the LN.
>>139377251
>everyone
>>139377324
Anon pls. When all we've gotten is those semi-fake spoilers, everyone had said it was more interesting than what we've gotten, and that they were trying to ruin a serious and grim storyline into a harem SoL. People that liked what they had actually gotten were constantly drowned out by the 'Kyoani butchers another LN' crowd.
>>139375757
>this guy
See this is what happens when you ironic shitpost too hard. Actual 15yo newshits think they're welcome. And they way you group completely different works make no sense, sasuga.
>Haruhiko on the otherhand though is nearing the breaking point of his mind after he starts fusing with Lucifer and he actually attacks the girls in one of the missons. Fortunately he only attacks Riira who manages to calm him down and regenerate the organs that got ripped out.
HARUSTEEL: THE PHANTEM
>>139377649
>Actual 15yo newshits think they're welcome
If you actually have this mentality you need to grow the hell up.
>>139377722
Oh god, how old is the LN author? Because I cannot imagine any adult would think that is somehow good enough to be published.
>>139376778
So the LN written just so it can be adapted into anime?
>>139377581
Nothing changed.
>>139377793
Looking over at the threads now that the actual spoilers are out, I say something has definitely changed.
>>139377836
Not really. It's just kyoani defending force go full retard as usual. As we all know, they will eat any shit if it will be shit from kyoani.
>>139377738
The ironing
>>139377779
8th grade should be about 14 in Japan.
/a/ likes to play a bullies so much.
Don't forget, LN's author WAS chosen by your favorite studio GodAni and HE is a creator of your favorite girls Mai, Koito and so on.
>>139376951
I'm telling you, I lurk most threads here. The people you're thinking of gather in LNshit threads.
>>139359354
based
>>139360814
KnK isn't bad, plebbit.
>>139358942
>no Ruru
Sounds like shit, fampaitchi
>>139359594
>She wants to destroy the entire world, summon a new one using Haruhiko's ability and in the new world, become Haruhiko's real mother and give birth to him
ABSOLUTELY MADPHANTOM
>>139358942
>As he is swallowed by the darkness of revenge, Haruhiko rises to use a forbidden ability in hopes to finally end the struggle.
Yeaaaaaah, no.
>>139364197
Can't agree more la
>>139380095
>la
where the fuck did this come from
>>139358942
Is it translated? That sounds actually interesting and nothing can be worse than that anime.
>>139380353
>liking things I don't like
Fuck off to >>>/v/
See? I can do it as well.
Will they do this shit with Koe no Katachi as well?
>>139380490
KnK has good source material (till the end) so there's no need to.
>>139379321
He was chosen because he was one of the few that presented their works in the KyoAni awards. They don't have a choice but to accept any offer they get because their publishing arm is still in its infancy.
>>139380490
Of course because deaf girl bullying is edgy.
>>139380490
KnK is not their IP.
>>139372323
>>Haruhiko's new power is called Diabolic ART and he is essentially selling bits of his body and soul to Marchosias and later Lucifer everytime he wants to use his transformation power.
>This is genius writing though.
This is literally the fucking shit from Rosario Vampire, fucking kill yourself.
>>139380741
I think he was being sarcastic, anon.
>>139380560
Premise sounds pretty lame though.
>>139380815
You just can't know these days.
>>139380837
You haven't read it, have you?
>>139381145
Correct, that's why I said it "sounds" lame instead of stating that it "is" lame.
Deaf girl and bullying MC who seeks redemption just seem like the author was trying a bit too hard. I'll watch it nevertheless and I'd be delighted if it turns out nice, but I'd much rather have a PW movie, or Hibike S2 earlier.
>>139381145
How much are they going to adapt?
To be honest I got too bored around the end the the movie and drama arc and all that, so I never finished.
>>139381232
It was one of the few series to do drama that tackled mature themes (forgiveness, and who deserves it) correctly. It also showed that some people really don't change.
Really, everything outside of the ending was fantastic.
Anyway, I could careless about the plot, at this point. I just want more Enigma and Haru bonding. Forget his real mom, that was bullshit and everyone knows it.
>>139381313
Honestly I'm hoping just the one shot. Anything else would be rushed.
>>139381438
>More episodic stuff with Haru fooling around around with Enigma and Ruru in between classes
Please
oh kyoani how have you fallen...
>>139381837
Those are bloomers
>>139359594
What the hell? That sounds like fun stuff. Post-apocalyptic fiction is always welcome.
I can't imagine being a fan of the original LN and then when the anime adaptation comes on it's all fucking different. No wonder nips always write angry sounding Amazon reviews.
>>139381885
dumb koito poster
>>139382003
Coitus*
>>139381885
That's exactly the kind of stuff that edgy teens write on deviantart or fanfic dot net. I know it because I've already deleted and removed all references to my cringeworthy stories years ago but the pain just won't go away, especially after reading that summary
>>139382048
Some things will never change
Just wait till Hibike 2
Phantom World was atrocious though, easily in Kyoani's worst top 3 (alongside with Kanon and Chuu2 S2)
>>139382181
This is far better than Chuu2Ren on account of having a better conclusion and an MC that wasn't reduced to being a complete faggot
>>139381885
I think that's the point maybe. The adaptation seems to have conveyed the main theme of the novels well enough
![[HorribleSubs] Musaigen no Phantom World - 12 [720p].mkv_snapshot_04.39_[2016.03.28_01.38.11].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/jxo2U6I.jpg "[HorribleSubs] Musaigen no Phantom World - 12 [720p].mkv snapshot 04.39 [2016.03.28 01.38.11]")
>>139382003
Sorry for being a shit
>>139382181
>Phantom World was atrocious
I'm not seeing it.
I can't actually believe that Kyoani wasted their time animating this garbage ;_;
Is anyone else here actually, unironically frustrated because of this? Or have I finally developed severe autism?
>>139382280
How can the LN be better when it literally has no Koito bullying?
Athiests checkmated
>>139382341
it's okay, you'll see it after you've watched more than 20 animes and your 17th battle harem
>>139382401
Come on, Lucky Star wasn't THAT bad.
>>139382401
Incurable bad taste.
so which one was the best ep?
>>139379333
Anon, pls stop. Edgy teenagers comes in all form and don't just only read LN. Why are you so insisted that it's only the LN genre that spawns them?
>>139382545
Only the fifth is the meh one
4th, 9th, 7th, 11th are great
>>139382181
It's easily among their worst but it's still a fine show.
>>139382545
I liked the stage drama in overall. Cathouse was kinda nice for me too, but that's also to a large part because of Kurumi doing cute little catgirl sounds.
>>139382545
4, 7, 9, 11 and 12.
>>139382551
stop being so mad. I'm a Kyoanus licker too (the only reason I even bothered sitting through 13 episodes of this trash), but I can admit when something was so bottom of the barrel shit that it had to bring out every cliche imaginable to even try to salvage this steaming pile or garbage
>>139379890
Wait, isn't that literally the meme joke for Darker than Black?
>>139382095
We were all kids once, don't sweat it.
>>139382594
Why are you incapable of reading English?
>>139382545
ep 7 is one of the deepest things we have had lately
tatami galaxy level episode
>>139382628
You're a dirty lolicon, mister
>>139382701
>mister
you meant "my good sir"
>>139380570
So, if a gaijin submitted his work to them, due to lack of participants, does that mean they have a very good chance of having their work being turned into an anime adaptation?
>>139382645
There's a reason why I refuse to admit the existence of anything other than the first season only
>>139382744
Time to dig out all my forgotten fanfic website accounts then.
>>139382614
>>139382631
Come on no ep 3? ;_; That one was my favorite
>>139382745
but anon Darker Than Black is garbage regardless the season.
>>139382181
I think it wasn't as consistently good or consistently bad like most of their shows.
I actually like how in the LN that all the girls are totally into the protag. But in the anime it's one of those half-assed harems, because they changed all the girls around him from completely liking him to merely tolerating him. This is because they don't interact enough to indicate otherwise.
So it just feels weird and mixed up. Which I say is the whole anime in a nutshell; it still deserves to bomb. But I also still liked it.
>>139382797
The third and and the fifth shows that Mai is a huge bully of lolis
But I guess I'm OK with the third episode too. Pouting Reina was cute and the fight scenes are good too, if a little short. But what's so special about it.
>>139359594
I actually sided with KyoAni here. That LN version is shit.
>>139382681
You're the one saying they're mostly from the LN threads. How else am I suppose to interpret that but 'LN attracts/creates most of the edgy teens'?
>>139382797
Episode 3 was good, both Fujita eps were actually.
>>139382876
But what, they've already shown that they all want his penis, even the cute little lolibunny.
>>139382783
>inb4 someone writes and submits a work of Tamijou Kouma and his Delusion Breaker as he punches his way through the four seats of Judism and a French civil war
>>139382891
The kinds of people complaining that Kyoani didn't adapt the edgy LN are the LNfags on /a/ who regularly read this kind of shit. They type the same way and have the same shit taste in anime. I am not denying that other edgy kids exist, but the ones here are a particular subset of fans on /a/.
If you can't understand this, I can help you. If you consider typing "why do you think only LNfags can be edgy" again, then please drink bleach.
>>139383027
>>139382891
It's ok to just let it go.
>>139383027
easy there anon, take a deep breath
also the LN is garbage, I'm glad Kyoani didn't adapt that abortion of a plot and made something nice-episodicly
>>139358942
>I never heard about this LN before KyoAni animated it
>but after reading supposed plot summary from some anon in internet, I'm a fan of original LN!
>fuck KyoAni for ruining it!
>what? it was actually pretty close adaptation of the first volume? someone lied to me in internet?
>s-still, f-fuck KyoAni for ruining it!
You should consider to remove yourself from gene pool.
>>139383157
Novel 2 is the garbage one, they only adapted the first one which is episodic.
>not taking a loli as your bride
>>139383157
Please learn English.
>>139383079
The seventh episode has a straight shot showing her soft squishy thighs. Hell she and Koito had a large ratio of bare leg shots in that episode compared to everyone else.
The tenth episode had her wearing a shortened pink yukata, like a short skirt hybrid so her legs are always visible. Everyone else wears fully covered.
The twelfth had a scene where her school skirt flew up in such a way that you can see everything underneath except for her panties.
The mahou shoujo part of the sixth and the eighth episode, the only thing stopping her from being bare naked is just your mind.
in episode 13 Mai destroyed the crystalized phantom-human hybrid then says "We need to show them that humans arent so bad, let's do our best"
OIOIOIOIOI!!!
You just murdered one coldblooded
>>139383079
Can KyoAni top this hair design in the next time?
>>139383255
Please kill yourself, edgy LNfag.
>>139383370
If you even bothered to watch the rest of the show you'd know that you literally can't kill a phantom
>>139383454
part human -overrules all rules-
>>139383454
she's not a phantom though
>>139383454
What if I am an autistic, edgy LNfag?
>>139383421
>>139383512
Now your anger is blinding your senses
>u mad
As expected from edgy children from /v/.
>>139383688
is she ok
>>139383721
She needs the comforting embrace of her onii-chan
>>139383499
So they took some random cake and metaphorically raped her with various phantom seeds?
Why is this allowed?
>>139383895
And there's no indication that phantoms will become protected by law.
Koito a shit.
>>139359594
If KyoAni adapts this with the due changes (switching to a parallel verson of the MC after the first volume is kind kf retarded, to say nothing of the two versions blending) it'll be an easy AOTY
>>139360814
The best episode of KnK was the idol dance episode. KnK fans won't admit this because they wanted a "soft-edge" piece of garbage that appeals to their teenage fantasies (which if these LN posts are true, sounds a lot like the PW LN). If this thread is any indication I'm glad PW turned out the way it did because there's nothing worse than making a medium reflexive LN edgy because you think your being original. It's the functional equivalent of writing a story about how Santa is the bad guy and thinking you're clever. Oh and fuck that MC power fantasy shit. At least PW had the sense to keep that out until the final episode where it made some sense.
>>139384848
>best episode
>won't admit
Stop projecting
>>139383079
>>139383642
>>139383688
>>139383815
Objectively best girl, thank you KyoAni.
>>139358942
Holy fuck that sounds awful, why on earth would you ever want that?
>>139383895
No, it's the other way around. They took a phantom and injected human DNA into her or something.
>>139384911
>/a/non in charge of knowing what projecting means
>reading comprehension
Since you can't read, I'm not implying everyone thinks like me. If they did, people like you wouldn't have shit taste.
>>139385185
You implied all KnK fan secretly think the idol episode is the best one, like you do. That's projecting
>>139384848
Idol ep sucked. Out of place, dance wasn't even good, definitely wasn't funny and was disgusting unless you enjoy bathing in eye fluids.
>>139385344
I didn't. You only assume I did since you can't read.
>because they wanted a "soft-edge" piece of garbage that appeals to their teenage fantasies
I said they won't admit it because they don't agree. Which, by the way, is still not projecting, which is a self-defense mechanism and not a refutation of the theory of other minds.
>>139385928
That just goes to show how much I didn't like the rest of the series.
>>139385928
>eye fluids
First time an anime made me gag
>>139372491
Small publisher novels never chart, retard. They don't have the resources to shill and distribute it as hard as big ones such as VIZ or ASCII.
