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Oh fuck off Okada, fuck off.
>>139290188
lol
>>139290188
Not her fault Sunrise cucked her.
>>139290188
This show was my biggest disappointment last year.
>>139290235
Would you be suprised if you found out its getting a second season?
>people watch subs this unreadable
>>139290674
It's: FROM NOW ON
Even I, as a non-native, can fucking tell you this.
>yfw G-Reco killcount is higher than IBO's
Worst Gundam since AGE, and only barely.
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>>139290188
>that speech
>no one died
This makes AZ look well written. Oh look Mika's eye got fucked too.
>>139290930
as expected from Kill-em-all Tomino
>>139290930
>Megafauna guys killed in Reco: zero
>Isaribi guys killed in IBO: two
IBO wins.
>>139290223
>lol
Kill yourself.
>>139291683
lots of mobile worker mooks got killed.
>>139293226
>>Megafauna guys killed in Reco: zero
Cahil.
Also lots of dead on the Amerian side and Towasanga. Barara's killcount alone is higher than IBO's.
>being that one plebeian who sincerely enjoyed IBO
>constantly reading hate threads
>what is my life coming to
>>139294311
>Cahil
That's cheating, that's before Bellri joined the ship. The point was 'deaths from the main character's group'.
>>139294918
>The point was 'deaths from the main character's group'.
It never was >>139290930
>>139294893
I liked it a lot too, people screeching about how bad it is and how I have shit taste for liking it only reaffirmed my opinions.
>azee-nee taking a blow to the head didn't turn her stupid in the head
>Guts won't once again step up and be the man who takes care of the waifu until she recovers
ONE JOB
>>139294954
Mine (>>139293226) was. What I was trying to say is that killing bad guys and destroying fleets isn't impressive. Bad guys die all the time, is a given. Now the main character losing their comrades, that's more impressive.
By the time G-Reco ended there was no sense of danger because Bellri and his friends always got away scott free. Not that IBO is much better here, but at least killed two characters.
>>139295416
>What I was trying to say is that killing bad guys and destroying fleets isn't impressive
Aside Cumpa, most of the dead characters weren't bad.
>By the time G-Reco ended there was no sense of danger because Bellri and his friends always got away scott free.
It is not like IBO has ever had any tension. The only dead characters were the ones with "dead man walking" written on their heads. And people called their deaths from the very beginning.
At least G-Reco had impressive parts like the episode with Yggdrasil or the reentry, where a ship blows up just like it was nothing. Most of the dead characters during those parts might be nameless, but at least people died. And a lot of them.
I can't say the same for IBO, which used fake deaths to hype an useless rival who accomplished nothing and where apparently being soaked in blood just means less than a bit of a headache.
>but at least killed two characters.
Let's not forget the ones that did NOT kill for reasons. Like the blonde guy smashed by the hammer.
>>139294893
Then maybe you should take a look outside 4chan.
Plenty of love in other places.
MIKAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>139295717
>used fake deaths
What's really appalling about all this is that those characters were perfectly irrelevant. Two whore and one dumbass.
>>139296867
The appalling part is how they got off with no serious injuries whatsoever. Some bandages and a few days rest and they're walking around good as new.
Ein managed to cause less damage to Tekkadan than the Brewers. Which is a joke considering how hard he was built up.
>>139297505
>Ein managed to cause less damage to Tekkadan than the Brewers
>>139296867
Two of the three Turbines pilots and the guy who is qualified enough to fill in as boss are "perfectly irrelevant?"
>>139297505
Ein couldn't get shit done by design, why can't people see that?
He spent the entire series on a mad quest to kill a bunch of children to take revenge for his mentor's death, eventually going insane because of it, and the irony is that the reality of Crank's actions and his death made literally everything Ein did not only meaningless, but explicitly opposed to the lessons Crank tried to teach him.
>>139297584
Did those characters ever bring anything to the plot that a device couldn't? They're probably less than devices actually, just background noise.
>>139297726
Ein was just a shitty device.
>>139290188
Slowpoke much?
>>139295717
>fake deaths
There were no fake deaths in IBO, those who died are still dead.
Your fault for thinking the 3 curbstomps of ep24 were death scenes.
> ITT: people who spent a week arguing about how those ambiguous scenes were totes 100% kills being buttmad about being proven wrong
> MUH MECHA NECK PARALLELISM
> MUH FLESH AND BONES BEING SHREDDED NOISES
please come back after you've seen at least 2 shows in your life ok
>>139297726
>Ein couldn't get shit done by design, why can't people see that?
>HE IS SUPPOSED TO BE A SHIT!
>>139297505
Ein caused more damage by losing to Mika than when he actually did some of the stomping.
>>139298028
What is really sad about Ein is that Okada can't write shit, Ein learns nothing, he's just that static angry fuck that keeps ranting about killing children, accomplishes nothing and is taken out like some random grunts only to be forgotten the next second. Japan can't write actual characters anymore, they simply delude themselves into believing that combining a design, name and seiyuu together is enough for that.
>>139294893
I enjoyed it too, opinions presented on 4chan tend to be pretty extreme, especially when it comes to expressing one's dislike for something.
>>139298028
He is though.
He didn't learn anything, he didn't listen to anyone, he was just self destructive in his single minded quest for revenge. The kids turning into Ein is what Merribit was so afraid of.
Who the fuck cares when literal perfection starts this Sunday?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_VsItczD6qI
>inb4 dubbed
Can't find new trailer subbed.
>>139298442
>literal perfection
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>>139298442
>Brave Beats got canceled for Unicorn reruns
I'm mad.
>>139290188
To top it off now there are people going HURRR It was so obvious! you're just a retard for falling for it! only after the fact that it was revealed they were alive, I mean there was a lot of debate about one or two maybe surviving but no one actually expected anything this stupid to happen
can you imagine if gaelio doesnt live after the bullshit they pulled
>>139298442
>Those shit character designs
>Those shit mech
>that shit music
>Gay ass beam light show
>CG
>UC
>Reheated UC rehash that was shit to begin with to be exact
nah i'll stick to IBO thanks
>>139299537
>no one actually expected anything this stupid to happen
People did actually. i remember one guy in particular saying that IBO didn't do subtle deaths or something.
Also the poll that was posted 2-3 days before ep 25 had eveyone living in first place (tied with 2 other options iirc, nobody fucking voted on that poll)
Having doubts about those 3's well being (especially Azee since she redecorated her cockpit's interiors with liters of head blood) was reasonable, being absolutely certain they were dead was retarded, calling for bullshit that they survived is even worse.
>>139299669
>>139299194
I knew that /a/ had shit taste, but you guys take it to a whole new level.
>>139299829
>Unicorn
>literal perfection
Even Kyoanifags are not as bad as you.
>>139294310
Lots of grunts died in AZ
>>139294310
One is not "lots"
>>139298009
I wanted to believe the death scenes were legit because I had too high expectations of this show and didn't think they'd stoop down to AZ levels.
>>139300388
>death scenes
Except they were not.
>>139300580
Yeah, just like the death scenes at the end of season one of AZ weren't death scenes, right?
>>139300388
>AZ was my first anime
>>139300580
so ein and gaelio are alive right because they were just as vague
>>139300682
I still cannot understand how people fell for those.
Them killing off autist-kun and going for a different MC on s2 would've been the unexpected thing, not him surviving.
>>139300831
Would you have preferred if I compared it to SEED or Cross Ange instead?
>>139300893
Yes, they are alive, confirmed by the official chart.
>>139298410
>>139298191
And people for some reason think that killing a bunch of named characters would improve him? No scratch that, these morons are actively asking to be fed with shock value. Killing people off just because they "can", whilst not even giving any plot contribution, or justice to everyone else's character development is just a wasted death IMO. Especially a death of a character who is much more valuable than Ein.
But let's suppose the characters really died, what then? How will this push Mika or Organs characters in any meaningful way? What about the rift between the Turbines and Tekkadan this would cause? How to deal with any of this in the span of a single episode? It's like despite of all the carnage in ep 24 people still treat death lightly and would gladly accept more of it even if it at this point in the story it would have contributed literally nothing.
Finally, I think it thematically fits a lot better that, in the end, Ein and Gali accomplished nothing, as both of them were corruptible and driven by revenge.
>>139300893
>implying they aren't alive
Oh, boy, I want to see your face when Gaelio comes back with a Mr. Bushido mask.
>>139300954
I'd prefer you would apply for a permaban, tripshit.
>>139300979
>as both of them were corruptible and driven by revenge.
As opposed to Tekkadan which is fighting under the false pretense to avenge Biscuit? So much for narrative coherency.
>>139297731
>just background noise
To you, because apparently not giving a fuck is your only argument.
>>139300958
>biscuit is alive again
Yus fatties can survive anything
>>139298009
Lafter is the worst one because there actually were flesh and bones being shredded noises and no amount of greentexting will make it acceptable. She should at least be missing a limb or something.
>>139300979
People aren't annoyed because he didn't kill anyone. People are annoyed because they've shown him killing a bunch of people, and then in the next episode pussied out and showed all those characters miraculously surviving. If you're going to show a character dying, don't be a bitch and actually kill that character. Otherwise, what was the fucking point?
>>139301119
>Tekkadan which is fighting under the false pretense to avenge Biscuit
that was just against Carta, and even then mr perfect took his time to assert that it wasn't really for revenge.
>>139301205
>what was the fucking point?
BUY THE FUCKING TOY BEFORE FINDING OUT HE IS JUST A JOBBER!
>>139301161
>>139300388
At least in SEED/AZ it was main characters.
>>139301180
>there actually were flesh and bones being shredded noises
Sounded to me like the sound of blood hitting the monitors, honestly.
>>139301205
>they've shown him killing a bunch of people
oh look, a tripfag being retarded
>>139300958
>crank is alive again
Hallelujah
>>139301119
No, there is a world of difference between Ein's revenge and Tekkadan's "revenge." In Tekkadan's case it was less about being vengeful and more about being absolutely committed to their mission if they are to have a place they can return to, it was a mean to an end. For Ein it was the entire purpose, he just wanted to spill some blood to satisfy his thrist for revenge under the pretence of "honour."
And in case you missed it, Tekkadan got their shit pushed in quite hard so they got to know the full extent of that committment.
I think the "revenge is bad" message got conveyed sufficiently. Although in Tekkadan's case the moral dilemma was more about if kids should sacrifice themselves like this for the sake of the mission, not if the mission itself is morally just.
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>>139290188
>Your face when Carta legitimately killed more IBO's than Ein, the suped up mega death cyborg weapon ever did
>>139301531
Seriously, Ein had monologues about the moral loopholes in the murder of children.
>>139301180
>being this delusional
Have you even watched the whole series? Have you seen pilots die while being crushed in their cockpits before? It looks like you wanted to see blood and carnage so much you projected your own image over a VERY vague scene in the show itself. God I'm so glad gore mongers like you got BTFO.
>>139301240
Does that even matter? Carta was a joke beforehand when her suit sold out.
>>139301240
Pretty sure grazein went on sale after ep25, but im not sure.
>>139302219
It goes on sale in April.
Who the hell buy gunpla because they like the character that operated the mobile suit? You buy a gunpla because you think it looks cool as heck.
Why are people obsessed over Okada when it was clearly stated that those taking all the decisions were Nagai and Bandai ?
>>139302465
Hating Okada is the cool thing to do so people will blame her for everything even if its something she has no control over. Same thing that happens with Urobuchi.
>>139302465
I love how everytime she's involved with a trash show it's never her fault.
>>139302667
Some retards even blamed her for the character designs.
>>139302465
We bully her becausewe want to fuck her but we are tsunderes.
>>139302713
Just like Urobuchi you mean
>>139290188
I'm not even mad, my boys survived.
MARS PRIDE
SYSTEM WIDE
GAS GJALLARHORN NOW
>>139290930
needs "IT'S HAPPENING" caption
So many retards want Shino dead. A guy who's responsible for pushing character development of literally everyone around him. It's like you want this show to be shit. Bitching about uninvolved cast while demanding decent characters who feel integral and involved to be removed, the apex form of retardation.
>>139303204
>IBO
>character development
And the show was already shit so this changes nothing.
>>139290930
Chica captain was so hot, yet her death was so stupid
Sasuga baldman
>>139302465
Maybe because she's related to Toshio Okada, the man who bashed G-reco for being an incomprehensible mess
https://www.youtube.com/watch?list=UU0FFHRF1mytLDhs6nxqGIQg&v=pUfoABgld2g
>>139303447
Hi, /m/!
>>139303989
>the man who bashed G-reco for being an incomprehensible mess
Pretty sure most people did that.
>>139303447
I don't know what to reply to you, it's like I'm talking with a frothing hater. If you can't commit a tiniest bit of attention toward character interaction in the show then maybe you should move on. Some of us are still planning to watch S2, and the cast becoming even more hollow is not in our interest.
>>139304273
Hi, /a/!
>>139304297
Japan is also /a/?
>>139303447
go back to your own board /m/ and let your butthurt spew free
>>139290188
Stay mad, faggot.
For ultimate justice Shino better paint Ein's graze pink.
>>139298164
This is kind of fun, Mika ended up suffering more damage after his win against Ein than the Guys Ein defeated, heck maybe they should have suffer a little more dame it was not necessary to kill them, almost anything could be healed with the magical bath anyway
>>139305591
>get back at Ein
>have sex with Yamagi inside Ryusei Go
>have sex with Yamagi inside Graze Ein
>paint Graze Ein in rainbow
>>139306844
>inside Graze Ein
Ew, with Ein's mangled remains still inside? Do they both finish on him?
Orga I am already a demon
I actually liked this asspull since he lost his left arm and eye and needs the gundam to use them now.
>>139309219
He will end up just like Ein.
>>139309739
So he will be like Kamille unless he is in Barbatos? Or will they also cut his limbs and turn him in a dreadnought
>>139309219
Barbabatos was supposed to be a nice guy.
>>139304278
I doubt the cast could get more hollow than they already are with the loss of a few irrelevant characters who contribute absolutely nothing nor have any depth.
>>139309739
>>139309890
Guys Guys
He lost an arm and eye and is part of a PMC
>>139309951
Keep parroting that, retard.
>>139290188
The part that bothered me the most was McGillis going full Sasuke.
>hurr friendship, trust, love. Such weak emotions are no match for my anger
>>139303204
But the show is already shit. Bait and switch "deaths" get shat on all the time, why should IBO be exempt?
All that happened was some mooks dying in the final battles. It has zero impact and this is a full 25 episodes already. It's not even edgy to want people to die, because the show tries to make the audience care about a bunch of faceless characters dying all the while.
>>139299669
>>139299829
>>139299884
>Those shit mechs
You were right on everything else but nigga I will fight you
>>139310153
Go back to Gaia.
>>139310153
All he's done was say exposition most of the time so they must have done a rush job on characterization.
So with all this hate on this show.
Is it bad I liked the Gunpla?
>>139310300
The single objectively good part of it was that delicious waistline on Barbatos. Mhmm.
It's because McGillis is the one who will destroy Britannia, and he won't let some childhood friend stand in his way. He's no homo.
>>139310246
>Go back to Gaia.
Did you just wake up from a coma? Haven't heard that in years.
>>139303204
So the reason why a person was sperging out in this thread and defending the godawful fake deaths is because she's a fujo happy they retconned her husbando's death?
>>139310265
It was cringe-worthy and I called it. "muh unwavering childhood resolve" seems to be the case
>>139310606
It seriously took you this long to realize only fujos like fujobait: the character?
>>139310606
This shit makes you wonder what would have happened if Wing aired when /m/ and the internet was around.
>>139310606
Fucking retard, Shino was confirmed alive in episode 24. The sluts' fate was ambiguous, but not Shino.
>>139310606
>retconned
>shown alive in ep 24
>>139310687
Not unlike waifufags sperging out about Carta.
>>139303204
>A guy who's responsible for pushing character development of literally everyone around him
Are you baiting or delusional?
>It's like you want this show to be shit.
Right because his 1 minute of screen time, total, every 3 episodes improved anything.
>demanding decent characters who feel integral and involved to be removed,
Shino, Azee, and Lafter don't fit this.
You could have just said "muh gay pairing" and you'd have come off more rational.
>>139310689
Shit was glorious. Whole BBS forums of Relena-bashing, "best terrorist teenager", everyone-loves-Tallgeese, why-does-Duo-sound-like-half-the-cast-of-ReBoot, mixed with actual shock that there was a Gundam series being dubbed into English to be aired on actual television despite Tomino having sworn he'd never allow it. It also spawned a legion of mainstreamed shippers that began the uncontrollable tsunami we have today.
>>139310936
Fujoshits on tumblr till this day still talk about Wing.
Hell toonami fags in general love Wing makes you wonder since apparently Adult Swim is making new FLCL and they might be crazy enough to make a Frozen Teardrop
>>139311061
No one wants Frozen Teardrop animated. As long as it remains in the realm of print, it's just some guy's fanfic. The 2x1 shippers would pull an Operation Meteor just to prevent Relena from winning as canon.
>>139303989
It's true though, G-Reco IS an incomprehensible mess. At least IBO makes sense about 85% of the time.
>>139311506
It's not good sense, but it's sense.
>>139311506
and has more gunpla G-Reco barely got kits
So Carta is the Gjallarhorn mvp
>>139290188
you mad bro?
For a Sunrise mid-season finale it was boring as shit and played far too safe. Tekkadan got their victory with no real losses. Not even so much as an ambiguous death. No cliffhanger. All existing plot threads tied up enough to leave no room for speculation. No teaser for what to expect in S2 either.
Basically the only thing up in the air to speculate is what the fat man faction is scheming. And they're irrelevant enough that it could be literally anything or absolutely nothing.
>>139311913
I hope they go back to Mars and find it embroiled in a vicious civil war, effectively making them homeless.
>>139311913
Some speculate to seasons 2s time skip going back in time to the Calamity War
>>139310801
Who the hell remembers the fate of every single irrelevant grunt character?
>>139311970
Why would they, there is another Calamity War on the horizon. According to the fat old men the economic bocs have decided to build up their own military forces since they no longer trust Gjallarhorn, Makanai hired Tekkadan as their military advisor, and Mars is about to turn into a corporation battleground over half metals..
>>139310898
>motivates Eugene and helps him gain confidence before the landing mission, constantly backing him up
>gets Akihiro to open up and softens him to a point where the latter starts to get attached and keeps following him around on the train ride
>humanizes Mika on several occasions when the latter tries to comfort him
>is one of a few characters with somewhat of a character arc with long lasting effects
Shino's presence makes other characters act more like people, and he feels like a more central friend and "clay" of the group than Orga. I'm not saying he's some great character, or that his character development wasn't squandered. But for IBO's standards he's one of the best Tekkadan has whether you give a shit about him or not. It'd be retarded to take him out for the sake of "muh drama."
The girls got to live by extention, which is perfectly fine by me. Using the girls to pad out Ein's kill count would piss me off even more.
>>139312188
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBN127GfwBg
He fucked bitches
ALL THAT MATTERS
>>139312129
Why are you complaining then, retard. Do the world a favor and kill yourself, tripcancer.
>>139312129
I remember Carta.
>>139312188
>motivates Eugene and helps him gain confidence before the landing mission, constantly backing him up
literally just the standard buddy character
>>gets Akihiro to open up and softens him
That was Orga
>humanizes Mika on several occasions when the latter tries to comfort him
Already done by Kudelia
>>is one of a few characters with somewhat of a character arc with long lasting effects
Yea that 1 minute of him depressed over the guys who died on his command, collecting deathflags, and later deciding he wanted a mobile suit to do more to protect Tekkadan wasn't filler tier.
>>139312321
As it's been stated before, it's bullshit when they show a character dying and then pussy out and make the character miraculously survive. It doesn't matter who the character in question is. People aren't actively hating on your husbando. If the character that died and was brought back to life was someone who is actually likable and/or relevant like e.g. Mika or Orga, the reactions would have been the same.
Christ It's like a /m/ thread over here
I wanted Shino alive but I hate Shino/Yamagi and think it's the most boring dynamic in the series. I feel conflicted since i think that's the only reason they kept him alive.
>>139312678
When you dedicate a board to one genre your bound to find flaws in it
>>139312678
What, because people don't love your garbage show?
>>139312410
>literally just the standard buddy character
Doesn't mean it's easy to replace one to the same effect when one character is already rooted in the cast and story.
>That was Orga
Orga and Shino, except Shino got the better results.
>Yea that 1 minute of him depressed over the guys who died on his command, collecting deathflags, and later deciding he wanted a mobile suit to do more to protect Tekkadan wasn't filler tier.
Kek, go ahead and trvalize everything. That's still better than what Eugene, Akihiro or even Biscuit have gotten.
>>139312188
Eh, no point in arguing with them. Everything you say they will be able to dumb down into the bare basics, put in green text, and just dismiss with "that was nothing," "that was barely anything," and so on. These threads are absolutely retarded, and they're already dumbing down Mcgillis' explanation throughout the entire series (and his constant, tiring exposition) of why he did what he did. They couldn't even read Merribit's character correctly, understand that Gjallarhorn and the politics the world built were believable, or understand why Tekkadan weren't "evil." They won't call something character development unless Shino was literally a main character focused on in tons of arcs, rather than being a steady supporting character which is what he's supposed to be.
>>139312598
Mika or Orga as likable? My sides.
>>139312776
Found the retard.
>>139312785
Akihiro has gotten way more screentime and development than your fujobait.
>>139312789
Oh hey it's the fedora guy with his fanfics again who can't explain why we're "wrong" but we're wrong nonetheless because he said so.
Can we just agree that Kudelia's development was the best and most important?
>>139312881
Bro, I love Akihiro more than Shino and Akihiro's development was pulled out of nowhere at breakneck speed, then shoved away and barely mentioned again. He was pushed aside after and his motivations didn't even really change or get affected the way they would if finding his brother was literally his life goal.
Akihiro, Shino, Biscuit, and Eugene (but less him) all got some development. It wasn't a lot, and with some it was sloppy or for cheap reasons such as in Biscuit's case, but it was all there. People can argue it was well-written or not enough or whatever, but it was there. Still, aside from Biscuit, the other three were constantly shoved into a non-presence in many scenes that they should not have been in, so their development was not done justice thanks to Kudelia screentime.
>>139312947
>That's my secret, Gaelio. I'm always angry
>>139312881
Why do you have to be so biased against Shino just because he has some irrelevant homo side plot which he isn't even aware of?
>We didnt see this fight
>>139300958
>Carta back in action
As expected of the true protagonist.
>>139312947
Dude, I hated the show. But the threads consistently missed shit that was laid out very clearly for the viewer, to the point where yeah, I am certain you guys are retarded.
The poor dialogue screencap you just posted doesn't make that his entire motivation, moron. It is his emotional defense to wavering from a goal that he believes in. This is a basic human emotion that entwines with ideals, with the state of observing shitty things around you, that can strengthen your resolve. This is literally a real thing that people have, but I guess if you put "MUH" before something, of course you can make it look however you want. The guy lays out boring, tired exposition constantly about how Gjallarhorn is corrupt, what he thinks is wrong with it, and why he doesn't believe in sitting around for it to make gradual reforms from the inside. So he's also bitter deep down and angry, and that prevents him from being swayed by one of his best friends being on the side that he has to take down. The end. This literally is simple, has parallels in real life, and you're retarded.
>>139313132
Why do you have to be so biased towards Shino just because he has some irrelevant homo side plot which he isn't even aware of?
>>139312947
Do you seriously believe that they wrote and animated ep 24 with all three of them dead, and then changed their minds and "revived" them for ep 25? Because it just shows you might be a bit slow.
>>139313239
I'd like Shino more if I understood his dull interactions with Yamagi. I figured they were going to build to a boring death scene where Yamagi, who none of us care about outside of shippers, would get sad, and that would make us sad, so I never got attached. Would have had more impact if he died and it didn't affect a character that has no defining relationships outside of him or motivations outside of him, and it affected all of Tekkadan instead.
But then he didn't even die, and now I'm going to be stuck with more scenes of "Shino smiles friendly at Yamagi and thanks him, Yamagi looks shocked like a retard and in love, then quietly watches him, it is a deep love."
I think that's the issue with this whole series, I'm supposed to care about a bunch of really poorly written bonds like this or Mika and Kudelia, or supposed to think Orga and Mika are bro tier rather than really unhealthy for each other and in dire need of a breakup.
>>139301161
>not the graze with ein hair, crying from its lense
One task.
![[HorribleSubs] Mobile Suit Gundam - Iron-Blooded Orphans - 25 [720p].mkv_snapshot_18.07_[2016.03.30_00.06.06].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/sJdhMt0.jpg "[HorribleSubs] Mobile Suit Gundam - Iron-Blooded Orphans - 25 [720p].mkv snapshot 18.07 [2016.03.30 00.06.06]")
>>139313222
literally fanfic tier.
He's a horribly written muh childhood revenge plot character. But I'm glad I was right about you, be sure to tip on your way out.
>>139313153
>implying they could've animated it
>>139313363
You talk like an embarrassing sperg. "MUH," "fanfic tier" "FEDORA" we get it, you can throw around buzzwords and fun 4chan memes that we all know and it can make you look right in your eyes, for some unfathomable reason.
>>139313406
What do I have to explain to you about this, slow-kun?
>>139312947
>>139313363
Watch out you are letting your hypocrisy show
>>139313356
>a character that has no defining relationships outside of him or motivations outside of him
The fuck I'm reading. Yamagi is a glorified background character, but he has an established friendship with Takaki and Ride and then you have his relationship with the black mechanic guy.Also he's a hardworking guy who cares a lot about his job, most of his scenes are related to his job or his friends, not Shino. Pretending that he's just "muh Shino" is stupid.
>>139313486
>Oh fuck somebody is not agreeing with my headcanon bordering on a rewrite. Better divert the conversation to save face while claiming the intellectual upper ground.
>>139313356
As a fujo I couldn't agree with this more. Shino and Yamagi are a snooze fest and I'd rather see more interactions between characters that actually have dynamic interactions. Even Atra and Kudelia are more fun to watch than Shino and Yamagi.
I'm glad they're throwing rotten girls a bone, but why does it have to be so dry?
>>139302442
You shut your whore mouth. All can be achieved if you put your mind to it.
Behold.
>>139313589
That is what he is. Just because he's interacted with Ride and Takaki and Nadi doesn't really mean much. Those interactions are surface ones that fill in his role as a mechanic and that's about it. He doesn't have any meaningful interaction with any of them. It is all revolved around Shino. And hey, that's fine, he's given a role that shittily-written women are usually given, so I guess it's equal opportunity.
>hes a hardworking guy who cares a lot about his job
Wait, who in Tekkadan isn't and doesn't absolutely bust their ass? The "younger generation" of named, more important mechanics are literally never shown to be doing anything but taking orders, working on shit, delivering shit, looking after the smallest children, and so on.
Still don't care about him or Shino.
>>139313363
This is some low quality bait.
>>139313638
>while claiming the intellectual upper ground.
He's doing that pretty successfully.
>>139313638
The conversation isn't being diverted. The subject is that you're retarded, so we're pretty on topic.
>>139313714
This is bullshit man. His interactions with Shino aren't deeper than his friendship with the kids, you're just reducing him to "muh Shino" when he is not. All his interactions and relationships are simple and surface because that's what he is, a background character..
>samefagging this hard
sad
>>139313907
Bro I'm not even fujo and can prove to you that his interactions with Shino eclipse others. Yamagi's interactions with Ride and Takaki consist of him telling them to stop fighting at dinner, and to push Ride to try and try the fish with a little banter at lunch on Earth. Nadi and him fill in some idle conversation, and you can tell he's a surrogate Father to him and the other boys, so that could be foundation for something ...but nothing else is explored.
Now, most of his interactions with Shino have meaning because they are, in the end, what his character is about. Shino's acknowledgment of him in that hand holding scene and the open way he's affectionate, Shino thanking him after the funeral, Yamagi getting jealous at his mentions of women, Yamagi wishing him good luck, Shino looking out for him on Port 2, and then episode 25. How the fuck can you sincerely argue that those interactions aren't deeper than his friendships with the kids?
>>139313907
And because of that Shino's character has to suffer because the show is trying to push the one-sided romance and make it somehow relevant. The fact is most of the viewers don't care about this relationship because we haven't seen them interact in a way that proves they're close.
In a show with a large cast, you have to be precise with what you dedicate your screen time to. Shino may be a main character, but he has limited screen time as it is, so dividing it amongst his actual close friends and some kid who has a crush on him serves to disengage the audience.
Yamagi finding him post-almost-death had no impact because we don't care about them. It would have been a better scene if one of his friends had been there, like Akihiro or Eugene.
>>139300893
Ein being alive is a possibility.
Gaelio on the other is 100% dead and gone.
>>139314021
You're making a good point and I'm not even sure what's being argued about here. Shouldn't we all agree that Yamagi is a background character whose only motivations consist of lusting after Shino's big dick?
>>139314108
You're being so sure about stuff again, only to decry another ruse.
>>139310606
No shit. The twitter images should have been a clue.
These characters have nothing going for them but doujin bait. Biscuit probably wasn't cutting it so he had to go.
>>139314049
>Shino may be a main character
>>139314049
I don't think these people understand that though. Like, Yamagi's crush can be cute on Shino, and can obviously stay because it serves whatever same thing Feldt had for Lockon, it's just a shy person admiring and liking someone who is a big brother to everyone. Sure. But don't make so many of Shino's scenes be about this as it disengages the viewer. What was the point of him getting injured like that...? To worry Yamagi? And yet we get only a still shot of Akihiro's battle with tons of mooks, where he had to hold off multiple guys without backup in order to back up his friends.
Sure, I can think that's sweet on a shallow level, but it's not enough to grab anything more than a niche audience, which is why so many people cared more about Lafter and Azee than Shino, or just as equally, when they've barely gotten screentime or development compared to him. Yamagi doesn't really have much going for him outside of that Shino crush, which like I said, is how girls are often written in Gundam. That doesn't mean that Yamagi can't be something more, but for now, that's all he is. And it's already repetitive in s1.
>>139299669
>shit mech
Faggot detected
>>139312947
This line is Divine Gate tier.
>>139314134
We can agree on that. Just agree that that's a legitimate reason for a lot of people to be disengaged with him, and as a result, disengaged from Shino a bit when that's focused on. I'm not saying you shouldn't like it, different strokes.
>only characters that should have actually survived IBO
>Merribit
>Atra
>Biscuit
>The entirety of the Turbines
prove me wrong; you can't
>>139314356
Orga should have been the only survivor so he could live the rest of his life in shame for not thinking of the children.
>>139313012
Every single thing about it felt forced and badly paced. If you like Kudelia for anything but her body I can't understand it. Her voice is a bit grating.
>>139314356
What about Cookie and Cracker?
>>139313012
No, we cannot.
>>139314570
They were never in danger so I didn't include them.
Orga really pissed me off towards the end. He doesn't seem fit to be a leader.
You should have stopped expecting good charaterization from IBO when Fedora McHarem decided to make Orga his little brother just cause.
>>139314356
Biscuit shouldn't have gone with them to begin with, his circumstances weren't like theirs. Atra signed up for the ride and bought the ticket, she should have died screaming in fire. Merribit should have died by circumstance as a sacrificial lamb given over by Turbines to Tekkandan's doomed cause. The Turbines themselves should have had to sit out and watch Gjallarhorn's awesome might snuff Tekkadan out mercilessly while Kudelia filmed the whole thing and kicked off a civil war when the video of faceless armed men gunning down children and crushing their malnourished bodies under the heels of their pretty baby-blue mobile suits hit the open airwaves, thoughtfully transmitted by McGillis in order to isolate Gjallarhorn entirely. S2 would be the ride of the new Tekkadan, backed by Arbrau, escalating the war against Gjallarhorn in both space and on Earth while every power in existence with a stake in who comes out on top scrambles to get their hands on as many Gundam frames as they can before their rivals and enemies do, while more and more science is devoted to increasing A-V tech and keeping the edge in battlefield lethality, Ein having been only the first of his kind.
>>139314765
McGillis wants revenge for his mom, calling it now.
>>139314049
>the show is trying to push the one-sided romance and make it somehow relevant.
You're making it sound way more relevant than it actually is.
>>139314267
>>139314310
>Yamagi's crush on Shino somehow disengages the viewer
What? What kind of logic is that? Just because of some background crush we're not supposed to care about him? Is this some kind of latent fear of the fujo cooties? Shino is just a more prominent character than Akihiro, he has more lines, more screentime and more relationships. The very deathflaggy Shino preview pic was a rt record breaking tweet they had, people did give a damn if he was going to die.
>>139314448
>>139314764
Go away, Merribit.
RIP Dios
>>139314778
McGillis doesn't want to destroy Gjallarhorn. He wants to make it stronger like it was 300 years ago when their word was law and economic blocs and fat old men couldn't subvert them like they do in the present.
>>139314861
The people retweeting that are fujos. Which is fine. He's popular with fujoshi and that's not a crime. I can't speak for others but no, the disengagement isn't a fujo cooties thing. At the beginning of the series I actually had a faggy ship for him. It's just that I felt like they were building these death flags on something obvious and my only two choices were
1. they go through with it, he dies, and I'm supposed to care about how it affects Yamagi.
2. they don't go through with it, he lives, and I'm supposed to care about how it affects Yamagi.
I'm glad his final scene was just palling around with Tekkadan friends and the kids. Anyway you should calm down a bit and let people just not be interested in a character.
>>139314778
>Tekkandan's doomed cause
There's nothing doomed about their cause with Macky on their side.
>>139314927
Fuck, I laughed.
>>139314942
The weakness can only be purged through the crucible of fire. As long as he survives, Gjallarhorn can be remade as something more pure than it had become. If Gjallarhorn wins, the survivors have proven they have the strength and he can step in as the prodigal son returned to lead them. Win or lose, he still wins as long as his involvement in playing all the sides remains secret and no one takes him out.
>>139314861
>You're making it sound way more relevant than it actually is.
You're just proving my point here. They try to make it relevant by giving those two scenes in the first place, but most people don't care. Their relationship has no impact. That's why it's not relevant and I don't get why they specifically gave them screentime when their relationship doesn't introduce anything new to the story. They're not comrades on the battlefield and they don't have meaningful conversations.
The only scene I actually thought had a point was when Yamagi went out of his way to make those space fireworks and Shino thanked him.
>>139315140
This is how I feel. The fireworks had meaning because it had a greater impact on Tekkadan in the end. Then you have Eugene asking about the fireworks, Nadi mentioning it was Yamagi's idea, and Shino taking note of that and going to thank him. It meant something to him because it helped him get closure for deaths he felt responsible by. That entire scene was a great close to a shitty arc, since Eugene's comforting of Akihiro in it was really meaningful as well. Everyone, including Yamagi, came off as good friends.
Other than that, every scene is just pointlessly reiterating that he has a crush.
Hey, isn't the manga for this show out? Why can't I find it anywhere?
>>139315294
No gaijin demand, it's not popular here and nips don't put their shit online easily these days. The manga is basically a rehash, nothing interesting or important.
>>139290188
Yet you fake fucks will be all over her once it's Kiznaiver and not Gundam
>>139315294
Isn't the manga just one volume of the entire first 3 episodes of the series? I don't see why anyone would care.
>>139315023
looks like a Bionicle rather than gunpla
![[HorribleSubs] Mobile Suit Gundam - Iron-Blooded Orphans - 24 [720p].mkv_snapshot_17.12_[2016.03.29_17.00.02].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/2iujkWf.jpg "[HorribleSubs] Mobile Suit Gundam - Iron-Blooded Orphans - 24 [720p].mkv snapshot 17.12 [2016.03.29 17.00.02]")
>>139294310
Which means nothing to us as the audience, because we haven't lost anything we were actually attached to. We're supposed to sympathize with these characters who've just won a costly victory, but we've been given no basis on which to do so, because the cost to us was zero.
Showing something like this and then letting the character live is pretty close to the bottom of the barrel in terms of cheap drama.
I'm disappointed with the fact that the show wasted so much time. I wanted to know way more about the individual characters of Tekkadan, but I got 25 episodes of fucking nothing. Even the two main best friends got barely anything on their backstory. I had no understanding of why their friendship was so retarded.
>>139315371
I care, dude. I want to see more on the orphans and Mars.
>>139315002
>1. they go through with it, he dies, and I'm supposed to care about how it affects Yamagi.
This wasn't so hard to figure out. At least to me it was always obvious Yamagi isn't relevant enough for his grief to matter and they're not going to follow through with it. I don't see much point to it myself, but luckily Shino is not just about Yamagi.
>let people just not be interested in a character.
That's perfectly fine, but you were attributing your reasoning to the general public, and this isn't what I have personally experienced. As for the attention given to the Turbines, no duh, this is /a/. Look no further than Carta's example.
>>139315434
I don't know how or why anybody could argue that it isn't, even for people who were generally satisfied with the show. That was bullshit.
>>139299669
I understand some of the complaints against the writing, but fucking hell, you didn't bring up a single good point.
>>139315434
I wonder if they chickened out after the nerdrage of Unicorn slaughtering female characters.
>>139315434
>because we haven't lost anything we were actually attached to.
Are you saying you were attached to Shino, Lafter or Azee? Because I seriously doubt it.
>>139302465
>If the show is good it's because of Okada
>If the show sucks it's because of the director and publisher
>>139315495
Carta had great potential and was awesome, if annoying, so I understand attachment to her more than Lafter and Azee. And yeah, Shino definitely isn't all about that, it just felt like that's what the majority of his meaningful scenes were since the Brewers arc and the funeral. Maybe it was the fujos flooding boards and twitter everywhere, but it made me disengaged since they seemed to act like that's all he was about, and it made me in return not really care if that was the case. Didn't mean to act like everyone feels the same as me, but I have seen a lot of people react similarly, not counting other guys that are just stupidly afraid of the gay. For now, I'd like to see him interacting with everyone else again, back in a pink fighter, and being his loud self without a bunch of false death flags.
>>139315569
Who is arguing that all of the good stuff was Okada? We just know that a lot of retarded decisions, including how S1 ended on a "happier" note (meaning useless, stupid fake out deaths), was Nagai's decision, and I think most of us raged over that.
>>139315434
This type of shit is so manipulative and cheap.
Does anyone have the picture with Azee having a bonk on her head and Lafters can cut open?
>>139315616
>it just felt like that's what the majority of his meaningful scenes were since the Brewers arc and the funeral
It actually felt the other way around to me. The Shino x Yamagi thing was teased the strongest around the Dort colony arc. Then somewhere around ep 17 it's been nearly completely dropped in favor of others. Shino doesn't even interact with him since, beside two or three times, until the very end. He does spend most of his time with Eugene and later Akihiro though. I think I wouldn't have an issue with his and Yamagi's relationship if I had received a sense of commitment to it. Although in such case like you say, fear of the gay would without a doubt turn most people away.
>>139316044
Thanks for being a reasonable person in this thread. I disagree about where they got the most focus or meaningful development, but that's probably subjective. As a background thing I am fine with it. It's good fleshing out to show some background dude having a crush on Shino, because gay people exist and Shino is deserving of cocklust, but the thought of it being a central point to his character doesn't engage me. I think that's kind of normal though if you don't care about one half of a relationship, I felt this way about a few things in pretty much every Gundam show.
>episode 23
>Mika goes completely nuts
>kids are all crazy with bloodlust and won't go inside
>"maybe Carta will fire a volley into the train and sadness will happen"
>nope, she just gets owned
>Orga realizes McGillis has them walking into a setup
>they keep going anyway because "KEEP MOVING FORWARD"
>next episode begins with them getting massacred
>"maybe Orga's crazy ambition will actually backfire for once"
>nope, just a pile of dead nobodies and some offscreen recovery for the main characters
>Ein goes from reasonably-managed righteous anger to fully insane
>McGillis goes full edgelord
>all potentially sympathetic villains are dead (unless revived by way of plot armor)
>>139290930
But I don't give a shit about any character in Reco so it's all moot.
>>139318902
>implying it is about giving a shit and not about pretending to be a gritty and realistic war story
>>139302465
Because of her track record of sucking donkey dick.
>>139311913
VVV first climax was much more satisfying than that.
>>139312698
No, they obvioulsy kept him alive so he could kill the audience that made it this far by giving them ear cancer.
>>139293226
Did you forget all the Grimoire pilot who died and replaced all the time?
>>139313356
Underrated post.
>>139314108
Gaelio will be merged with robo Ein in a 2 headed Graze next season.
>>139319208
>Gaelio will be merged with robo Ein in a 2 headed Graze next season.
>not a 2-seater cockpit
>yfw they will use the G-Lucifer
I can't really see any way Gaelio can be alive.
Shino / Lafter / Azee at least have the excuse of Ein being a lunatic on a rampage and they managed to get lucky. In comparison its much harder to believe a man as thorough and ruthless as McGillis would be careless enough to not confirm his kill.
>>139319574
>I can't really see any way Gaelio can be alive.
>>139319509
You mean combining Graze with their own Tsukame Prido as their super robot theme.
>>139319574
>implying McGillis didn't unconsiously hold back
>implying deep down in his heart of hearts McGillis doesn't want Gaelio to rise up and kill him
>implying S2 won't end with a mecha-Gaelio vs McGillis fist fight on top of a mountain of dead orphans
>>139311216
They'd probably start the whole story from scratch if Frozen Teardrop got animated.
>>139313356
>Would have had more impact if he died and it didn't affect a character that has no defining relationships outside of him or motivations outside of him, and it affected all of Tekkadan instead.
>implying it wouldn't
Shino/Eugene and Shino/Akihiro are almost as big as Shino/Yamagi. There's even some Shino/Orga out there. Of course it would affect all of Tekkadan, all of Tekkadan wants to fuck Shino.
>>139319574
See you're using logic. But this is IBO and anyone can come back from the dead.
>>139319877
Fumitan and Biscuit disagree with you.RIP Danji
>>139290188
Sunrise's Fault, see the sales and the popularity polls and you will understand you fucking redditshit.
i know you are from there because you don't even use the fucking logic reasoning
>>139319900
The number of fake deaths largely outweigh the number of real deaths
>RIP Danji
literally who?
>>139319877
>But this is IBO and anyone can come back from the dead.
Especially those who were never dead to begin with.
>>139319933
He wanted to die in soft breasts.
>>139319862
Shino/Eugene is something I could get on. Anyway, as it stands, I couldn't give two shits about Yamagi and the "Shino needs to live so Yamagi can confess!" crowd that was all over here and the internet. Most retarded stuff, made me annoyed of both characters to just downgrade Shino to that. But that's what the show wants. I'm here for pilots and nakama.
>>139319768
I don't really *want* Gaelio to be alive, but if he is, this is the only way I can see it happening. McGillis might have his own fucked up way of making Gaelio be on his level. The ambiguity and underwhelming way he finished him off is strange, but I can't predict this show...and if it meant for it to be underwhelming or is just bad writing or is leaving it open for an asspull "he's alive" traveling vagabond in s2 opportunity.
>>139319862
I'm here for real bro love.
>>139320567
How can Gali Gali survive next season? I see profit in keeping him alive since he's so popular, but if Tekkadan and McGillis are allied, he's fucked. Unless Mcgillis does something to piss Tekkadan off, I can't see them readily allying with Gaelio. They have no mercy for him.
>mfw i felt like a deluded shipperfag when these two didn't have any moments in ep 25
>>139320682
She's a married woman, you asshole.
>take a drill to the fucking chest
>don't die
I fucking hate Okada.
>>139320697
Why does Naze get to have all of the fun but she can't have more than one guy? Monogamy is dead in this world.
>>139320593
Faggotry aside, I actually really enjoy this friendship. It feels genuine and not unhealthy or weird.
>>139320593
Shino deserves better.
>>139320736
Eugene's never really there to support him, he cares more about appearances and matching up to Orga. What was he doing while Shino was getting mauled? Announcing himself as a Hero.
>>139320897
What? Eugene came last minute and let Orga know that he's got him covered and can head across the bridge. That's what he had to do that was essential in battle. Was he supposed to be omniscient and know that Shino was being attacked by Eindroid? He had rushed to Earth to help all of his friends. He actually had to fight in the battle, and didn't really have the luxury of being able to sit and watch like Eco and Yamagi did and be potential medics or help. Orga would have been stuck playing the waiting game if not for his help. It's strategy, not done for showing off. They're good friends, like all of Tekkadan is. It's just that Orga and Mika, while having an incredibly deep bond, have dangerous aspects to it. Which I like if it's taken in a certain direction.
Or are you just getting competitive in a fujo way? Ship what you want, I don't care and am here for friendships.
I expect at least one decent fist fight in S2.
What were all those pullups even for.
>>139320897
yeah! why wasn't eugene just sitting around in a car watching battles? fucking unsupportive asshole.
>>139320707
she took a drill to the machine she's in, not her actual chest. not that we saw. the lafter thing was bullshit though since we saw all of that blood and her unconscious.
>>139319574
he'll be alive. this show is that dumb and it will make mcgillis look incompetent.
>>139321086
>tumblr
I expect you to kill yourself.
>>139321086
I waited entire season for Shino to show some of the CQC he supposedly specialises in.
>>139321244
He punched Hitler-kun repeatedly. We got that.
>>139321057
>>139321108
He really could have saved himself the speach though. Peace times or not Eugene always intentionally or unintentionally comes off as a douchebag. The fuck I care if the "Hero is here?" So many people died already, and just a scene back Shino got sliced up. Eugene's entry did nothing for me in that aspect. He retains too much of the latent traitor personality for me to like him.
>>139321277
He'll regret it soon enough.
>>139321300
This is ridiculous. So someone isn't allowed to have a playfully showy personality when they're letting their friend know they've got their back in war? Orga laughed and made a sniping remark back, and Eugene continued to hold down the bridge until nearly sunset, implying he fought for hours to buy Orga and Takaki and the others time. This is what friends do in stressful situations, they joke around with each other. Even Shino has joked around inappropriately and tried to make light of dark situations to relieve tension. You sound defensive, as if eugene personally grabbed you and told you to care and think he's a hero. He's not any more of a hero than anyone else that fought in that battle, they all played roles. He just had been incredibly far behind Tekkadan and didn't even travel with them, so it as a surprise, and he could announce it to Orga in a way that could have Orga tease him back. Why is that such a big deal?
He had no aerial view, nothing. There isn't any way he could watch Shino or Akihiro for that matter or see if they were okay. That's what happens in battle, you are assigned to your own units and strategically cover different spots. You need to calm down with the bias. If you don't like him, who gives a shit? But to say that he's somehow unsupportive for having to engage in battle instead of being able to run around and play medic is retarded.
>>139321300
what does he retain of a latent traitor personality? he was the one that was pushing for them to help the union workers more than anyone and upset at tekkadan's inactions at letting people get set up for defenseless deaths. then shino had his back, and they were both pushing orga for it. he's got morals, he's a good guy. he's a bit of a douchebag, but so is orga and so is mika. they all have flaws. shino is careless and literally would have blown himself up in battle if not for people warning him about their own traps, he's not a good leader and is afraid of responsibility, and is obnoxious. these traits make tekkadan's cardboard personalities a bit more bearable, it makes them more real.
>>139321388
their argument makes no sense, but at least they came out honestly with it being "i just don't like him."
By far the most mediocre and least entertaining Gundam series post 2000. Anyone saying otherwise has shit taste.
Showed sucked
But the setup and potential is still there for the 2nd season. Hopefully we get timeskip
>>139321373
I can't get over this character's design and eyes...and how he will be Chocoman's right hand man. What in the hell?
>>139313222
Nice try, trips-kun, but you know very well that you're wrong.
Everything you wrote has nothing to do with the fact that he's killing off a best friend who is not only loyal to him but is easily manipulated, therefore killing him just to grab the family's reins makes no sense.
The things he said to manipulate Gaelio into making Ein a cyborg prove that his rhetoric is empty and his only real goal that he actually believes in is reaching the top of the food chain and doesn't care one bit for Gjallarhorn's supposed corruption of which he is a product of.
He's bitter about his position yet made an extremely round-about plot based on a loose-canon PMC instead of taking care of business on the inside, such as killing off his father in law and take matters into his own hands without a disbelievable plot.
If you're gonna say "well, they would probably assign someone else in that situation and suspect him" they could just as easily prove he was killing his own man - if this were a competent writer making a believable universe where investigations, proof and oversight of machines and blackboxes exist
>>139321509
What is "Gundam Seed"? for $400 Alex.
>>139321696
Appointed Mars Gjallarhorn boss or took over Carta's job in earth customs/border security.
>>139321277
Is this guy an orphant ?
How sugoi will Kudelia be next season?
>>139311913
What are you saying, all the good guys are dead.
>>139321108
>the lafter thing was bullshit though since we saw all of that blood and her unconscious.
you mean Azee
>>139315434
Aside from the amount of blood (which you can't see unless you tamper with brightness and contrast) that looks like a "she's not actually dead" shot. People who legit get crushed dead in their cockpits don't get cockpit shots in this show.
>>139322024
>wed to some older spiritless politician because it's convenient, autonomy for Mars and political ambition over personal desires etc
>Fumitan's necklace tucked inside formal jacket that highlights her now much larger bust
>has dreams where she's a careless teenager running around Mars with her boyfriend Mika
>shows pictures of the heroic looking girl from Fumitan's book to her and politician's newborn child
>>139323536
> has secret meetings with rebel factions while wearing a mask
>>139322921
>(which you can't see unless you tamper with brightness and contrast)
your eyes are just all retarded and stuff
>>139290930
Kamille alone killed more named characters in Zeta than IBO did.
>>139290188
Final episode was good, but this scene and the Barbatos Katana scene were just fucking insufferable. Horrendous decisions on the writing part i'm glad everyone is calling out.
>>139315434
After having seen people split the skin on their skulls open, this amount of blood isn't really all that much.
>>139321793
Pure entertainment.
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>>139313222
McGillis's ruse is so good even anons think he's doing it for a greater good
>>139325280
pics or didn't happen
>>139325816
>somemone else than me played Original War
>>139309219
>I actually liked this asspull since he lost his left arm and eye and needs the gundam to use them now.
I liked it too someone on /m/ had a really neat take on it.
He said that gundam frames can give you a better connection through the alayashiki, but everytime you go further you will become more dependant on the machine.
So in other words to gain more power you have to make a deal with the devil and that is why the gundams are named after demons.
The other guy explained it better, I looked for the thread were it was posted, but I couldn't find it.
In short I thought it was a neat idea that gaining more power through the gundam frames is like making a deal with the devil and that is why they are named after demons.
>>139310471
If you go to naruto threads people are constantly saying that.
>>139313153
I didn't even noticed that he used one of the grazes sword.
>>139316210
>Fire a volley
>With the gun she doesn't have
The Graze Ritter is only equipped with a sword. It was intended to be used primarily for ceremonial purposes, not actual warfare or combat. That's why it's more brightly colored and decorative thsn a normal graze.
was pic related full homo or borderline homo aniki type of relationship?
>>139329085
>>139329085
It's not homo at all.
>>139329085
If I had to give it a name, I'd say old and busted, yesterday's news gay co dependency.
>>139320661
>Tekkadan and McGillis are allied
How is it possible someone could make it through this show and not see all the final boss flags McGillis has been waving around?
>>139290188
At least the series wasn't written by Yasuko Kobayashi.
>>139331608
Also completely ignore the way McGillis see and treat his "allies"
>>139290188
That's some Kubo level bullshit with his shinigami who can't die even when their guts are being literally splashed on the wall.
>>139326659
He technically is in his eyes, though. He wants power and for Gjallarhorn to fit his image, but the reforms and corruption go to Gjallarhorn's weakness, its incompetence, and the unfairness in which it distributes its power to the same rich families at the top, recycling it and concerning itself with matters that don't connote true strength.
>>139290188
That annoyed me and I also got bothered by this. don't know why it always has to be a young, coddled, naive ojou-sama that has to be the voice of "reason".
I never got the impression she understood the repercussions of her actions and the state of the world because 3/4 of the time she needs other people to tell her what is happening. Like when she met the news crew(conveniently) they had to tell her what was happening so she could make her speech and end the conflict. Then offscreen apparently negotiations happened and everything was fixed. It's so lazy.
Every anime with a serious problem has the situation resolved by a young bishoujo giving a short, vague and idealistic speech after everyone risks their lives and suffers to get her to that point. It just gets so tiring. If this doesn't blow up in her face and instead works out I'll be incredibly disappointed.
>>139331608
People see it, I just think that in order for Gaelio to form an alliance with Tekkadan, it would have to be a gradual thing to be believable. I don't know how long it will take in s2 for Tekkadan to hate McGillis more than they hate Gali Gali, but we'll see.
>>139321509
Found the Grectum baby. Sorry mate but most people agree that Greco is the worst post 2000 Gundam if not the worst TV Gundam show ever.
>>139334211
Kudelia was not believable at all as an actually inspiring person. I do wish she had been somebody who was already serious and more wise to the ways of the world. It would be a different princess for a change.
>>139334685
> I do wish she had been somebody who was already serious and more wise to the ways of the world.
This, seriously. Would it kill the writers? She can still grow and learn from the experience of working with them without being a fish out of water who can't even chop vegetables right.
>>139334211
It will blow up in her face. And then a new wave of complaints will arrive, since such scenarios are as cliche as bishōjo voice of reason herself.
>>139334702
I would do revolution with her.
Now that IBO is done, have the current Western Gundam popularity list:
1. 00
2. Zeta
3. Build Fighters
4. IBO
5. Seed
6. 0079
7. Wing
8. Turn A
9. G
10. Try
11. X
12. Destiny
13. Victory
14. ZZ
15. Age
16. SD Gundam Sangokuden Brave Battle Warriors
17. Gundam-san
18. G-Reco
19. SD Gundam Force
>>139335937
>3. Build Fighters
absolutely disgusting
>>139335937
>17. Gundam-san
>18. G-Reco
I hate Greco, but not even it deserves this.
>>139335937
But /m/ keeps telling me IBO is shit and that they hate it so much.
>>139336840
Shit means okay. Not talking about it at all means actual shit.
>>139296432
Like on mal and reddit?
>>139335626
Wait for your turn, you aren't the first one with that idea
>>139335937
In what dimension is IBO that popular in the west, moreso than casual's favourites Wing and SEED/Destiny?
>>139335937
>1. 00
Bullshit.
>>139336994
Popular as in well liked, not well known.
>>139329085
Roomies at the institution-level of homo, or at least a very strange form of symbiotic codependency that's borderline love.
>>139336994
In a dimension where the year is 2016 and not 2004
>>139337146
And what the fuck are your sources? Because IBO discussion is dead as hell on anime forums. People still talk about Wing to this day.
>>139337187
Agreed. One only has to go on AO3 to see the difference. Wing is grossly popular and still churning out fics.
>>139334209
The only thing we actually know is
He's been angry since he was a child
His father said he saved McGillis from despair
He wants all the power in Gjallarhorn to guide it down the "proper" path
We still don't know why, other than some childhood event, or what he plans to do with Gjallarhorn, because it just a means to address his anger and not the end goal.
>and the unfairness in which it distributes its power to the same rich families at the top
Where'd you pull this from?
>>139337136
this show is extremely comfy
>>139337242
>>and the unfairness in which it distributes its power to the same rich families at the top
>Where'd you pull this from?
and by this I mean where'd you pull that McGillis cares about it.
>>139335937
This is the list ordered by members.
1. 00
2. Seed
3. Wing
4. Destiny
5. 0079
6. IBO
7. G
8. Build Fighters
9. Zeta
10. X
11. Turn A
12. Age
13. ZZ
14. G-Reco
15. Try
16. Victory
17. SD Gundam Force
18. Gundam San
19. SD Gundam Sangokuden Brave Battle Warriors
>>139337358
now that Biscuito's gone, no one in tekkadan will die smothered in breasts
>>139337136
I hate how every bromance nowadays gets interpreted as full homo gay relationship.
>>139320567
>But that's what the show wants.
Unless you meant that the show wants to downgrade Shino into a shipping bait then, HA. I wish anon. After the bait in ep 17 with the preview and official twitter going "Yamagi will be Shino's exclusive mechanic from now on" people got excited it's finally becoming real. And it got me excited because I thought this will finally shape up into a honest to god relationship between the pilot and their mechanic, I have a soft spot for this type of stuff. But nope, they just show Yamagi on Ryusei Go once and that's it. The single last interaction they had ever since was Shino giving Yamagi some soup in ep 21. Then episode 25 came where Shino didn't have any reaction to Yamagi tending to him and they didn't have a single line of conversation.
I don't think it's derailing from Shino's other friendships nor that it's significant, I can treat it as yet another opportunity to show a more gentle side of Shino as a very caring guy so it doesn't bother me as such. But otherwise it's clearly just bait for the ratings and views. Put it in the preview, put in some death scare, that'll make them watch the next episode. And it works. And this is really the saddest part about it to me, because I thought having a gay character who's just some regular guy and who may have a relationship that isn't completely retarded was pretty ballsy of them. Alas, IBO suffers from a chronic inability to commit and deliver on anything it sets up.
Next season is just going to be more of the same unless they make Shino eat up that death flag for real.
Will Mika and Atra grow a little for the second season? Or are they doomed to forever be in those small underdeveloped bodies?
>>139338315
I hope they stay small. it would be kind of hot
>>139337915
Do you have any proof Yamagi is gay?
>>139338716
I saw him suck off some guy the other day.
>>139337471
He doesn't care on some humanitarian level. He cares because it puts incompetent bougie people with petty self interests who act like fools up at the top. It's got nothing to do with morals as far as I think.
>>139338716
Yeah, I found on twitter some fujoshi's autistic compilation (with summary and commentary) of every single moment Shino and Yamagi interacted.
>>139337915
If it's any consolation, baited-anon, as someone who doesn't like the pairing at all, I do have faith that the subtext they've thrown in will actually mean something in the end and hopefully come to fruition for you guys.
>>139338716
Yamagi is trap
>>139337840
Boohoo.
>>139338716
He shows clear jealousy at Shino's interest in girls, has a heart-fluttering scene at Shino grabbing his hand, watches Shino play with kids while smiling fondly, cries over him in danger...I dunno anon, it's written a lot like a girl in love.
Yamagi was just upset Shino didn't bring him to fuck some prostitutes but he brought Eugene.
That reminds me, does anyone have the actual source (as in, a real link to it) of anyone official implying that Shino would fuck a guy? I mean in my head he definitely would, but he's constantly talking about tits in the anime, screaming in frustration when being around girls, and canonly fucks whores all night long...while he's surrounded by dick.
>>139337915
It's a pretty sweet one sided love.
>>139339070
>has a heart-fluttering scene at Shino grabbing his hand
Hes just unused to kindness since they were under Maruba and Co for years
>watches Shino play with kids while smiling fondly
I guess Robonigga and Merribit want to fuck all the orufenz then
>cries over him in danger
Shino is like his only friend, not gay bro.
>>139339196
No official commentary, just VAs playing around. Same as Asseylum's did during Aldnoah, which held no weight and were even downright debuffed in the series.
>people say Ein failed to score kills as an inexperienced AV user since he was fighting like a human and treating enemy MS like humans too. As such Ein was aiming for the head and neck of the enemy MS where he should be aiming for the cockpit like Mika.
>>139339070
>Boohoo.
Glad to know you agree that none of them are gay in any way and that it's just literal faggots being as obnoxious as always.
>>139339330
This is what I figured. I totally think Yamagi>Shino is canon and have my own Shino shipping bias that isn't Yamagi, but I figured the series probably wanted to keep Yamagi as a one-sided yearning kind of thing. Which sucks for the people they keep baiting. I know the VA definitely loves to make gay jokes about Shino, but I wish the show would actually go through with it and make him not give a fuck about who he sticks it in.
>>139339263
It's gay.
>>139339471
I don't think people who ship Mika and Orga think they are canonically fucking. I think you're a bit retarded and don't understand the mindset of shippers who ship gay shit, but that's fine. They have to keep things parallel -- what they logically and rationally know will happen, and what they hope for, like to alternatively interpret, and so on. Aside from a very small crowd of morons, no one really thinks that guys who are close friends are in love irl, and who gives a shit when it's fiction.
>>139338991
Given that the show never bothers developing side characters and plots unless it's planning on killing them off, wouldn't it be better to just keep it as a bait? Unless they like drama and tears.
>>139339598
Why don't you fuck off to tumblr where you belong.
>>139339471
anon Yamagi is gay, i don't really care either way but it's pretty clear he wants to fuck Shino.
and that's it, nobody else really seems gay
>>139339598
>who gives a shit when it's fiction.
Literally black Ymir/trans Hanji tier. Back to tumblr
>>139339604
they developed Guts and he's still alive
>>139339709
Yamagi is straight, Shino is just the cool older guy figure for him that is standard in japanese fiction.
>>139334298
Do Tekkadan really even care enough about Gali Gali to hate him? I'm not saying they'd want to be friends or anything but I feel like he was too ineffectual for them to actually hate him. I'm pretty sure Mika's the only one who even knows who he is.
>>139339747
Changing a character's race or making a character trans is completely different though. A character's race changing does nothing for the character, neither does giving the character a secret dick. Wishing two characters would get together is just fantasy so reading into things serves an actual purpose, which is relationship wish fulfillment, rather than changing things for identity politics points. The false equivalencies are stupid since delusional fujos have more in common with delusional straight shippers who want non-canon stuff to be canon. Think harry/hermione shippers who went insane when they didn't end up together. Shipping is entirely different from making someone Mexican or taking hormones for their transition.
>>139339919
Not going to lie, I didn't read a word you posted
>>139339809
That's Takaki and Mika. Yamagi is so gay it makes the VA uncomfortable watching his scenes live.
>>139339773
That's because they didn't really developed him. They just got him the Gundam and then he dropped off the radar.
>>139339809
Why would he have two scenes where he gets sulky and jealous that Shino likes bitches, though? You guys barely need any proof that a girl character wants to fuck a guy (see: lafter/akihiro), but will stop short of nothing but men in bed together to believe they are anything more than friends or anything but heterosexual. Is it so difficult to believe that one character in a cast of a ton of guys isn't straight? Just one?
>>139340018
How VAs react means nothing. Shino's VA has talked about Shino/Yamagi, Shino/Akihiro, and Shino/Eugene, and recently even implied the merchandise of Shino with Yamagi and Eugene was indicative of Shino being sexy and popular with guys. That doesn't mean Shino is taking dick 24/7.
>>139340020
The Katara and Zuko voice actors shipped it. Didn't mean shit for the series.
I honestly can't even remember any Yamagi scenes so I probably would never have realized people saw something there if it wasn't for fujoshit. I don't think I'd even remember his name if people in these threads didn't mention him.
Everything about IBO relationships feel so fake and bait-y. Even Kudelia/Mika/Atra and they actually get focus. It's hard to care.
>>139340020
Lafter/Akihirio is just as retarded. She has a husbando and child
>You guys
Pretty sure it's 2 guys, which is less than fujo posters
>>139338604
Unless the rumor its fake which could be after all it’s just a rumor, they are supposed to be fifteen and considering how small they are is a safe bet that they will stay like that unless they end up been late bloomers, Ride is bigger than both
>>139340241
I agree. They honestly should have just focused on fleshing out believable friendships and showing backstory instead.
>>139340018
>they didn't really developed him
they kinda did, he had that whole cliched "i'm subuman boo hoo" thing and also his brother got fucked.
Shino too had a bit of char dev when he went from leading the assalt troops to wanting to pilot a MS just because he didn't want the responsability of leading people, especally after that whole orphanslaughter during brewers arc.
>>139340129
The point is their scenes are so loaded with gay subtext it makes people feel weird to play them. Whatever though, I don't care if you have your anti-goggles on too tight or not.
>>139340129
Yes it does.
>>139340241
>Even Kudelia/Mika/Atra and they actually get focus.
The Atra/Kudelai/Mika is awkward as shit in its own right because it's a three-way and it will NEVER evoke the same kind of emotions as long as there's the thrid wheel around. Haremfags are delusional.
>>139339604
I'm hoping they are the Patrick and Kati of this show.
>>139341345
How can you compare such a dull dynamic to such an exciting one? Yamagi isn't a disciplinary, strict, kuudere. He's a shy, reserved, gentle guy who can be a bit deadpan.
>>139338716
He is sucking a john right now.
>>139341495
>shy, reserved, gentle guy who can be a bit deadpan
In other words the perfect wife material.
>>139341345
>pretending shino is anywhere near patrick level of good character
die, faggot
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>>139341595
I won't argue against that. Just that he's nothing like Kati and that dynamic is nothing like Kati/Patrick.
>>139341595
If you like boring characters
>>139341619
USELESS BITCH
>>139341643
I won't argue against that either.
>>139341670
What if I do.
>>139338716
This is No6 all over again.
>it's a goodnight kiss, just because they kissed doesn't mean they are gay
I'm at the Dort episodes and so far the show kept getting worse and worse since they left Mars. It's like they are just throwing a bunch of ideas one after the other without much thought. Does it ever get better? Do the characters, Kudelia in particular, stop being so shit?
>>139340869
Love triangles can be interesting and invoke emotions in the audience if the characters' relationships are good. Atra/Kudelia/Mika is just boring cause Atra and Mika are no more than kudelia cheerleaders and Mika just sniffs a bracelet sometimes
>>139341806
Yes and yes. Kudelia becomes acceptable afterMaiddies.
>>139341805
Are you fucking retarded, comparing the weak bait that goes nowhere in this show to no.6?
>>139341862
>that goes nowhere
How can anyone make this claim when we don't know what happens in the latter half of the show?
>>139341825
Lovie triangle is not the same as a legitimate three-way relationship I assume they're trying to pull.
>>139341806
Kudelia is trash all the way through but the final episodes are sort of acceptable. Not worth going through if you hate the characters, most are stagnant and plot is bad
>>139341862
I'm just saying that anyone who says that Yamagi isn't a fag is retarded and can't into implied information, is in denial or baiting.
>>139341862
I don't think they're comparing pairings, per se, or saying they are equal in requited levels, but just that Yamagi is obviously gay in the way that Shion and Nezumi were obviously in love, and fanboys deny it.
>>139341862
>weak bait that goes nowhere
Just like Shion and Nezumi.
I wish homos would all die.
>>139341836
bullshit
Kudelia just turns into a different form of shit, an even worse one in fact. She also still doesn't realize she's being played for the half metals.
>>139342012
She doesn't complain anymore about how useless she is, that's an improvement.
>>139341903
Alright, as of 25 episodes it goes fucking nowhere. You can keep waiting but it's clear they have been just stringing fujoshit along up till now.
>>139341980
Two main characters that are childhood friends and have constant intense strong feelings of mutual reciprocity, equal terms, and open communication and affection is completely different than one supporting character with an even more minor character that lusts after them.
>>139341937
>but just that Yamagi is obviously gay in the way that Shion and Nezumi were obviously in love
Not even close.
>>139341806
Once they get to earth it gets back to actually being good.
>>139342064
Yes, but still goes nowhere. They didn't even fuck and in the end Nezumi abandoned Shion for no reason.
>>139341495
I wish Yamagi would get his shit together and aggressively pursue his target, that would redeem him in my view.
>>139342131
You mean you wish he had a different personality? Me too.
>>139342120
They kissed more than once and had established mutual attraction and love though. You can't say that's nowhere. Bad ending or separation doesn't mean it's anything close to an unrequited background pairing with little development.
>>139342221
Not everything we do needs to perfectly in line with our personality. Shy boy overcoming his shyness is a good development which doesn't have to completely change him.
>>139342317
>Shy boy becoming some creepy faggot hitting on a guy who is obviously straight.
pass
>>139342317
Overcoming shyness doesn't make you not reserved, or not a more understated person who doesn't prefer to be loud about your emotions or aggressive about your pursuits. He's already overcome his shyness more as he talks to Shino more and has more of an established friendship with him. But he's never going to aggressively pursue.
>>139342059
Yamagi and Shino are very popular, I wouldn't be surprised if they are given a more prominent role in S2. Sunrise is gonna pander hard for the fujobacks.
Is this really going to be continued?
Why?
Just why?
At least Thunderbolt is watchable.
>>139342354
right? yamagi can tell shino is into girls. he's literally affirmed it twice in the series to himself and showed disappointment. why would he hit on him?
>>139342450
Because it's a success and people want more.
>>139342365
Fair enough, this is more or less what I meant. I just want him to gather some determination and confess. Boiling up your emotions isn't any good, and kind of unfair to Shino since he's not aware there's a double meaning to their friendship.
>>139342445
Hahaha.
friendly reminder that okada is writing all of kiznaiver herself
no excuses
>>139342511
I bet you were laughing like that when people were saying Shino was going to survive Ein too.
>>139342450
Because it costs nothing to produce and they have no idea where to take the Gundam franchise.
>>139342445
Shino gunplas are the worst selling, he's going to retire to tekkadan HQ next season.
Or die in the first episode.
>>139342445
>Sunrise is gonna pander hard for the fujobacks.
Do fujos even buy gunpla?
>>139342554
But does she have free reign?
In IBO the director was pretty specific on how he wanted things and generally controlled how it went.
>>139342605
Or will be given a better Mobile Suit, seeing how he's quite a popular character.
>>139342605
and Carta will be revived because she's the best
>>139342640
>In IBO the director was pretty specific on how he wanted things and generally controlled how it went.
Not just in IBO, this is s standard practice in anime production. Director is the creative boss, always.
>>139342677
Not even the most popular in fujo circles
>>139342581
All the staff does is throw a little bait and fujoshi come biting. They can continue being glorified bg characters and retain popularity with fujoshit.
Get ready for more harem antics with Kudelia, Atra and Mika over anything else.
>>139315350
I'm always excited to get disappointed by Okada.
>>139342724
correct, so why does /a/ always blame the writer? It wasn't Boku no Pico guy's fault Aoki had a gay bondage fetish.
>>139342685
Shino's Graze is winning over carta's in a graze popularity poll 3:1.
>>139342744
Maybe Orga will do something next season.
>>139339982
thats actually pretty hotbecause it looks nothing like carta
>>139342823
I was talking about Carta herself being best girl. But post the poll while you're at it.
Gali Gali turned into best boy in these last few episodes. Seeing him betrayed by McGillis was fun. Sluts should have died though and Ein fight was a big disappointment especially with the bullshit powerup from Mika.
>>139342892
Still ongoing, go and vote for your waifu.
>>139342832
Carta has a nice body, and she's pretty cute without the makeup
>>139342746
>>139342744
Their second most popular homobait is dead and gone now so obviously they will have to fill in the void somehow. Shino/Yamagi is perfect for that since it already has an established fanbase.
>>139342962
Carta without fox makeup is not Carta
Like Orga without that fucking ahoge fringe thing
>>139342962
Carta had*
>>139343120
Or they could use the actual neglected MCs Mika and Orga. Which they obviously will.
Unless it's the Kudelia Show again so everything is second to her.
>>139335937
Wait until IBO gets fully dubbed and airs on Toonami.
It will be on the top of that list until some other new Gundam dethrones it.
Scary thought isn't it?
>>139343231
One doesn't exclude the other. Definitely do not want another Kudela show but I don't think there'll ever be shortage of Mika/Orga.
What's so wrong with Yamagi's crush on Shino being just that, an unrequited crush that goes nowhere? G-Reco did the same with Kerbes and Ringo crushing on Raraiya and no one complained.
>>139343338
Countless shows do that. I don't know why people expect this to go anywhere. Okada loves unrequited love.
>>139343414
It wasn't Okada who came up with it but Nagai. What's his track record at this stuff?
I just rememered chocoman said Montag was his real name, what do we know about that company again?
>>139343513
It's worse than at least one Hitler.
>>139343316
Sure both can happen but I think it's unlikely. A pairing being popular =/= secondary/tertiary characters being suddenly promoted in importance. I could see it for Shino, maybe. And I am sure they aren't going to lose popularity even if they remain as is unless another pairing overshadows them.
>>139343338
Haven't watched that but it's probably something to do with the way his crush is portrayed that makes people root for him in a"pet the dog" kind of way, fujos at least.
>>139336767
Let me guess, you hate fun
>>139343449
Look through what he's done and you'll see nearly every single of his shows has unrequited love/one-sided pining.
>>139343791
Not looking good for Atra then.
>>139343826
Was it ever? She literally ntrs herself.
But I can't see Kudelia/Mika actually happening either. More than likely it will go nowhere.
>>139343826
Atra will win Kudelia
No one will see it coming and IBO will be hailed as the best gundam in ages by /u/
>>139343338
>G-Reco did the same with Kerbes and Ringo crushing on Raraiya and no one complained.
Because Tomino wasn't subtle or pandering with it. He made clear enough that both of them wanted to fuck Raraiya, there weren't just "Ringo watches Raraiya with lustful eyes" scenes.
Also better and funnier interactions. Like Ringo saving Raraiya and calling himself a guardian angel, or Kerbes pulling Manny and Noredo out of Raraiya'sMS'sass, or Ringo telling Raraiya not to show theG-Lucifer'sass.
There was variety, there was fun there were explicit feelings, it wasn't just throwaway pandering.
